Adding First Fish + Acclimating tips

[@jacksonsparrow8865]

Is it normal for them to lay at the bottom when first entering the tank? They are two clown fish

[@kevinw7044]

I would change the Hanna salinity checker to read ppt. I prefer to read ppt than the broader sg reading. What type of urchin is that? Is it still alive? I have never kept a sea urchin but I do know that many of them are very efficient at eating coralline algae. It surprises me that the lfs sold you that many fish to go into a new system all at once?

[@wishafish8165]

Wow love it! You do such an amazing job!!!

[@eatsleepreef9565]

😊

[@RogueAquariums]

Nice selection of fish bro. Only thing I might do when acclimating them in the bags is dim down the lights the first few hours so it doesn’t provide any undo stress on them.

[@eatsleepreef9565]

Thanks brotha. Typically there is a lid but for the video I didn’t put it since I was recording

[@tang_nabbitchannel3898]

Yeah Safety Stop in a minimum for me, but to each their own!

[@sjoerdkielstra607]

Hi there. Could you please explain the cycling process again with the mollies? What salinity do you use? In this video it looks like it can be at 35 ppt.

[@eatsleepreef9565]

I have a video covering all this a few months back. But mollies went in day one.

[@richardb3882]

Hi I have been following this great series with interest as I am very new to the hobby, I was wondering what your view on water changes was, there seems to be conflicting information from 10% weekly to none as long as your water parameters are ok. Keep up the good work

[@eatsleepreef9565]

Water changes depends on tank nutrients as well as main level parameter consumption. Personally this tank will be doing the triton method meaning no water changes

[@AScocco10]

Molly fish to cycle? Two fish tang in this cube?

[@abzhama3402]

Alex Reef there two completely different families of tangs. Surely it doesn’t matter if it’s a cube and he has tangs, so what braaaa

[@vibol711]

Do you quarantine new fish?

[@kenziyt3912]

This is a new tank with no stocking yet. The fish hes adding are basically going into their own quarantine while in this tank. Come on people.

[@TattooedDancer91]

What? Are the fish seperated? Can they infect each other? Did he cycle it with fish? Can he easily treat diseases?

[@kenziyt3912]

@@TattooedDancer91 yes he cycled it with mollys but he took them out before putting these fish in. So that makes this tank basically a quarantine. So if something breaks out then he can just treat the tank and its not huge so it wouldnt be costly. Any new fish after these obviously this wont apply because then he would be treating healthy fish.

[@TattooedDancer91]

@@kenziyt3912 No. parasites and diseases can stay in the water column for a long time, even without fish. ICH takes 6 weeks to kill by starvation by going fallow for example. If he treats the tank, his clean up crew, pod population and invertebrates in general will die. His rocks and sand will absorb the chemicals and make them useless and coral killing in the future. So no, it's not that simple.

[@kenziyt3912]

@@TattooedDancer91 people treat established tanks all the time. Its not gonna hurt the sand and there is invertebrate safe meds. People make this hobby alot harder than it really is.

[@TattooedDancer91]

@@kenziyt3912 Name them! Let's imagine a two year old reef tank, and ICH suddenly appears and starts killing the fish. How would you treat that?

[@TattooedDancer91]

"It had ICH and after feeding alot and giving them garlic it's just gone!" Sigh... Misdiagnosing iCH is super common, maybe it was just some flukes or wounds from the tang aggression that we see clearly. If it is not misdiagnosed, then no, it's not gone away, it's still there...

[@turnerdischinger6365]

I don’t think he misdiagnosed. Ich is still there and he might know that but for the time being the fish have become resistant to it

[@TattooedDancer91]

@@turnerdischinger6365 You have absolutely no validation to that claim. There are no pictures of it, there's nothing, only this anecdotal "evidence" that people seem to hold so dearly above confirmed science. Just because the ICH parasites have entered into a protomontic stage, doesn't mean the fish are resistant either. KZbinrs serving up "guides and tips for beginners" and downplaying this issue of fish diseases and quarantine procedures does not give any benefits to this society. We of all people should care about giving the fish their best chances in order to be sustainable enough to maintain this hobby in the future.

[@turnerdischinger6365]

TattooedDancer91 that is not what I’m saying. I’m saying there will still be ich present but the fish will not necessarily die from it. If it become stressed, than the ich will come in and appear again. I quarantine and just finished a tank transfer method so as you can see, I’m taking precautions to avoid it

[@TattooedDancer91]

@@turnerdischinger6365 No you're saying you're trusting his own diagnosis. It's too easy tos ay "I had ICH, it went away" when sure, something might have been there, but to say it was actually the dreaded fish killing parasite and it just went away like that downplays the effect it can have. :) happy new year

[@turnerdischinger6365]

TattooedDancer91 it’s not exactly hard to see some white spots on the fins and to recognize it is ich

[@robertodiazjr7666]

everybody should check out Safety Stop at least if you don't have a quarantine system 1-hour quarantine👍

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

I tried it my anthias still died from ich 3 days later lol now i actually quarantine.

[@salparmar7861]

I use safety stop before adding to QT and again when moving from QT to DT and so far it has been amazing. I am sure you know what you are doing and if that works for you it’s great. I wish you all the success with this build and like you said for future upgrade build.👌👏

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

I remember adding a pair of mocha storm clowns as my first fish and died all of a sudden for no damn reason. I damn lost my shit when that happen.

[@lindafrancis1642]

What if some of the fish were in medicated tanks? Can I still combine them in the same bucket for acclimation?

[@eatsleepreef9565]

Yes you Can but you for sure have to make sure you double rinse to get any of the copper out

[@Guacamole44479]

What about ammonia toxicity/burn my friend? Add some prime to the orange bucket? I'm reading a lot of people are just doing a direct transfer (if temp and salinity are constant).

[@Raketenpeter]

isn't the pool too small for a tang? would also take a small one and if it is large hand it over to an edging

[@lennartoxaker8328]

Did u say Mollys...is there Molly for salt to??

[@nick081965]

Lennart Oxåker mollies will quickly acclimate both ways. They are a brackish fish that do well in fresh or salt.

[@nick081965]

He did mention briefly that LFS would acclimate back to fresh

[@markmanuel3187]

Mollies can live in saltwater???

[@Pontiuspilate666]

Methylene blue and sea chem prime really helps a lot if you buy fish from online.

[@couldbenicer3199]

Love the video but did you dry the fish off after double dipping ? 🤣

[@harlanmichael7088]

Thanks for the video!

[@sjoerdkielstra607]

Also did you put them in before or after the nitrite spike?

[@turnerdischinger6365]

Sjoerd Kielstra the correct way is to do it after cycling so after the nitrite spike has gone down

[@gtamantube]

So mollies cans take saltwater???

[@eatsleepreef9565]

Acclimating them over 2 hours yes

[@ghost61]

Why 2 tangs the same size? They're already fighting

[@eatsleepreef9565]

First they are not same size. The yellow is a lot smaller. Second these two tangs are completely different families. They may have pecked at the beginning but now are best friends. Since the yellow is a baby it tries to school with the other one. It’s so cool to watch. But they are now best friends.

[@OnTheReef]

A little early from an urchin IMO. This tank is new and urchins have big appetites. I hope your pencil urchin doesn't starve.

[@zafishguy5166]

Wait I could do 2 tangs in a 60g if they are very small could I do it for 2 years? I was going to get the same 2 tangs..

[@zafishguy5166]

@sandy garcia thanks I did not know that I am gonna pick up a kole and a yellow then

[@brianculater6444]

Za Fish Guy no, tangs belong in 125 gallons or more, How would you like to live in a little tiny cardboard box your whole life?

[@TheDarthloki]

@@zafishguy5166 pls don't. even just one tang needs way more space than this... always find it weird that people who pretend to want to care for a fish do bullshit like this. i guess at the end its just an "i want this i want that" approach not considering needs of the animal at all. quite a shame. call me tank police or whatever i dont care.

[@pjshooter6]

Learn to qt ALL YOUR FISH! Should qt all livestock especially if your planning to do a reef. If you end up with a parasite outbreak your going to have to qt AND GO FALOW for 90 days. Thats a huge back step

[@ricardovaladez5676]

Well here comes the Quarantine and tang police 🐠🚓💨...

[@eatsleepreef9565]

🤣🤣🤣

[@semisuccessfulreefer220]

I really dislike those people...stay in your own lane and mind your own business!

[@marcelrodriguez2067]

Its all fun and games until that one sick fish nukes your tank 😂 trust me ive been on both ends lol

[@k3nye]

☕🐸

[@ttravreefsaquatics8354]

Nice update 😎👍🏾🔥

[@xjet9417]

New Tanks looking Great👍 Hmm pencil Urchin?

[@baggerbro1726]

Stay firsty my friends!

[@atfinthehouse8631]

First fish in tank. It is a quarantine tank.

[@TattooedDancer91]

Did you forget he cycled it with mollies? Can one of the fish he added infect the rest?

[@muffemod]

Yo whaddup freshy?!

[@burtminshew4812]

What the hell did I just watch. LoL

[@billfrater1948]

Why you shaking the poor fish in the net, They are Fish not chips.