ADDING MEMBERS TO THE HERD // Versatile Horsemanship

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

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[@LindaEll89]

That was so exiting to put them all together, poor Oohna and her sore nostril. I love Sally she is one of a kind and she managed well by all the introductions and chasings. So good to see at the end that everyone went well and there was peace in the herd. Chapeau Brandi. 👌

[@jeanfish7]

Do you ride Sally? She has quite nice conformation. She shire has become your love bunny ( puppy) love seeing her!:)

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Jean Fish I haven’t yet but I will

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

ActaNonVerba Ohnah is definitely one of a kind. She’s an old soul for being 3

[@MBrusaZappellini]

Definitely one of the prettiest mules that I’ve seen in a long time! Ohna is now saying OhNo! Poor baby, she didn’t think she was getting her nose pierced that day... 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

MBZ Metalsmithing I agreed, Sally is so pretty and the way she moves is just plain elegant

[@emilylipsitz]

@@VersatileHorsemanship so nika is pregnant again?

[@angelahames5056]

@@VersatileHorsemanship Have you seen mules that do dressage? I think that Sally has the natural suspension to be successful at dressage!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Emily Lipsitz no, this video is from April

[@emilylipsitz]

@@VersatileHorsemanship will you breed anymore of your horses?

[@Mckinzie13]

8:50 ohna did 2 flying lead changes

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Kinzhorses shes very athletic

[@KingsMom831]

I so appreciate your channel. You come across as authentic AND you understand horses. To me, It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who ride horses but their motivation/inspiration or passion is about something other than the horse. Maybe it’s ribbons, maybe it’s a big prize, maybe it’s recognition. It’s just really nice to see someone using this platform to demonstrate/be a good role model anyone wanting to advance their horsemanship.

[@libbyratcliff3672]

This was a really interesting and informative video. Thanks for sharing. Interesting how the group dynamic changes each time another horse is introduced to the herd.

[@faticus5369]

Sally is my favorite! Thanks for airing that video!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Eugene Riley sally is super cool, I’m really enjoying working with her

[@faticus5369]

@@VersatileHorsemanship You're supercool!

[@bellahuey8032]

Oh no!! Poor Ohnah!!! I am glad she is ok. Daisy reminds me so much of our mini Shiver! They are so much alike! Glad everything went according to plan 👍😊

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Bella Huey thanks, Daisy is certainly a character

[@NicO-mb2hz]

Loved watching them all interact and run around all excited 😍 thanks for sharing

[@wendyeesue]

This is so wonderful I get to watch your videos of you explaining about horses behaviors and showing your horses, I cant be around our horses every day, they are boarded at a friends pasture while I live in the city. This helps me to see horses with each of your videos I do visit our horses and bring apples and carrots to feed them while visiting them for a little while ..Love when you say "Stinker"

[@dianepeoples3902]

Very interesting how they interact. It’s good to see they settled down.they are all so beautiful. Have a great day

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Drama for a few days, but not too bad after that first hour or two of being introduced.

[@LisaR2392]

The dynamics of this is totally funny! They act like littles kids on a playground! lol

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

pretty much!

[@conniezapiain5262]

Wow! So informative. I just love your videos. Poor Ona getting bet! That’s awful. I’ve often wondered how to introduce new members into a herd and now I have a good idea!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Some people make it way more complicated than it needs to be. The horses will sort it out themselves.

[@maximusopus1108]

Yet another very good interesting video. It's so great to see horses being horses. Poor Ona. Herd life. 😂❤️

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Maximus Opus herd life is a hard life but it’s the best life 😂

[@cmarie5774]

Poor Ohnah! Any injury north of the neck always seems to bleed like crazy, and look much worse than it is. Glad she healed well. Sally is fast becoming a favorite with me, such an attitude! Thank you for sharing this with us, it was really interesting!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Glad you enjoyed it. Ohnah has a small scar, but it could have been so much worse.

[@KalanMiller]

She could've lost one nostril. Glad she didn't though

[@susanflowers6282]

My Goodness! That was stressful to watch. I'm so glad Ohna's injury isn't as bad as it seemed to be. Poor Baby Girl! Sally did guite good as well! What a huge weight off of your shoulders! My My! The daily issues you have to deal with. Your herd of horse's are so Beautiful! I really enjoy watching them run. It's so true that horse's follow fence line's. I was noticing that with yours. Have a great day / Evening! Brandi and Family!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Owning horse are not for the faint of heart... sounds like a great video topic

[@BornAgainFarmGirl]

That seems like a nerve racking moment , I’m glad it all worked out !

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Been through it hundreds of times, it's always entertaining

[@barbaraselley5288]

Versatile Horsemanship The voice of a pro!

[@Mckinzie13]

Wow Sally's got some quick kicks

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Kinzhorses she sure does. That’s why you don’t want to be kicked by a mule

[@balancingmidlife2022]

I was sweating that one out 😅. Glad everyone is ok ♥️🐴♥️

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Yeah that was a bit of a thriller

[@janagannaway9223]

I’m so happy Sally told everyone to get lost! 😂

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Haha, me too

[@rachaelrouse8531]

I feel so bad for ohna she seemed like she was just trying to keep the peace she seams like such a sweet mare ❤️

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Yeah she didn’t want any trouble, she’s a very sweet mare

[@KalanMiller]

I like ohnah. She's a beautiful, sweet mare. Her name is beautiful too. I didn't like seeing her get bit or kicked

[@Laurieb2851]

I love watching horses interact with each other. When two horses put their heads together and then one moves away letting out a squeal, I always wonder what was said to upset them. They don't seem to communicate vocally, and I've often wondered if they are reading each other's nerves and what their nerves are telling them. When you think about it, us humans many times operate somewhat the same about other people. We can get real cautious if someone doesn't look just right to us while walking towards them. We have our guard up even though we don't know a thing about that person. Maybe it's just that simple with horses. Maybe not too, lol!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I think its very similar

[@marysimmons4705]

It’s interesting to see the dynamics between horses. They communicate with only the minute body language. I’m sure people think that horses are just put in a field and will get in with each other.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

there is certainly a lot of communication going on

[@impunitythebagpuss]

Sometimes some horses don't like mules....and never get over it. I had that problem with my mule. I 'm surprised Sally was accepted so well!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

impunitythebagpuss some horses don’t like other horses. It all depends on the individual.

[@CactusCowgirl]

This was a super informative video! I’m glad Ohnah is okay! And that’s such a beautiful name- I love it! I have a question :) I have one horse that I have at my house and I’m hoping to get a second horse soon, do you have any tips for one on one introductions? I love your channel by the way!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Thanks! Ohnah is from a reservation in North Dakota, so I wanter her to have a native american name. Ohnah means "fire on the prairie" in Lakota. For me it really depends on the horses. If they are pretty chill, I just put them together. I also have stalls where they can touch noses and get to know each other. That's usually really helpful if I have any concerns. But for the most part, you just step back and let them sort it out themselves.

[@CactusCowgirl]

@@VersatileHorsemanship ooh that’s so cool! I love names that have meaning. Thanks!

[@cattymajiv]

@@CactusCowgirl I don't think she explained it very well at all. What she meant was that you keep them in seperate but adjoining stalls or pastures, preferably pastures but stalls are ok, for at least a week, preferably 2. But you do take them both out to handle them, spend time with them, groom them, or see the farrier or dentist, or whatever. If you only have one paddock or feild, you alternate which one is in and which is out, but make sure the majority of the time they are near enough to sniff and rub faces. Once you are sure they get along that way, and only then, you can put them in the same feild. And then too you keep your eye on them for a hour or two, or however long it takes for them to settle down. Even on the 2nd day you watch them more than you usually would. This the same thing you must do with cats and dogs. You keep your eye on them until they settle, and you feed them seperately for at least a few days. Once you start feeding them together, if you have one stealing the other's food, you will have to find an alternative. BUT, before you do any of the above, YOU HAVE TO FULLY QUARANTINE THE NEW HORSE for at least 3 weeks, or 21 days. You must do this with every new horse. I have grave concerns about how she rushed the process. I understand her reasoning, and for the most part I agree, but I think that bite might have been prevented by just adding the horses more slowly. I realize she is extremely busy with all those horses. But I would have made the time to do it more slowly. She also rushed through the process of answering you. It would be better not to answer at all than to give incomplete info like that, because it was clearly very misleading. She didn't even allow herself a second to think about how her few terse words would be interpreted by a person who only has 1 horse and has never had more. A person without her vast experience. And one who wants to prevent the kind of injury her poor mare had to endure. There are 3 areas where she gave wrong info or missed a point completely, which I noted above. You should probably go back over this and reread that part. The main parts of what I told you, about 1st doing quarantine, 2nd keeping them close enough to kiss each other, but with no ability to kick, then together in the paddock, but watched, especially regarding food. But you should NEVER believe ANYONE from a KZbin comment! Phone your vet and ask them. Please do this. There are tons of people on KZbin with horse channels, and half of them have no clue. Look at how she brushed you off with the quickest thing she could think of to say. Rely on the true professionals in your area, people who you can hold to account if something goes wrong. What if instead of a bad bite, the horse had received a bad kick in the head, or the ribs, maybe with a severe concussion, or broken face, or broken rib with punctured lung. It happens. Another channel has a video of their horse on the ground, unable to move. With that large number of horses the amount of energy that gets stirred up is enormous. So I would have gone more than twice as slow. But my point to you is, do not follow advice from KZbin. Do take note of the steps I gave you, and check them with your vet. Check everything with your equine vet, all the time. You will be fine that way.

[@horsetalk3330]

Great video!!! Poor Blossom.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I like the logo, looks great!

[@horsetalk3330]

Versatile Horsemanship thank you!!

[@nypdbob]

I love your videos they're excellent

[@KalanMiller]

Good video. I like ohnah, daisy, Sally, and Nocona. They're my most favorites, especially Ohnah. They all have different personalities. Ohnah seems sweet, daisy is sassy, Sally is assertive, and Nocona seems like a bully. But amazing behavior though. Seeing horses interacting together always interests me. Watching them all determine who ranks where in the social hierarchy. Thus, poor ohnah. I didn't like seeing her get picked on but that's normal horse behavior. I'm glad she turned out ok though

[@shouloakleyaha7576]

I really like cinnamon,she is my kind of horse!i love paints and pintos,we call them coloureds in uk,

[@territn8871]

I had no idea introducing horses to a herd environment would be that dramatic. It was downright scary to watch. Poor Onna, I hurt for her. And Sally, she didn't let me down! She let them all know real quick she would pop them a good one if they messed with her! Miss Kitty is so easy going, i hope it didn't take long for her to find some buddies! Will you be showing how it went when you first added Nika and little Man to the herd? Your vids are so educational for me. Thanks so much!👍

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Yes, I got Nika and Manzer's introduction to the herd on video and will share it in order with the rest of Manzer's videos.

[@territn8871]

@@VersatileHorsemanship I'm praying it isn't as traumatic as this one! I know Nika will watch him like a mother bear watching her cub though!😉

[@garlanddavis7099]

They will work it out!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Yup 😊

[@missys]

Did you feel like you were "waiting for the other shoe to drop" so to speak through the whole thing? I did! Despite the nostril cheap shot it went surprisingly well! It is very interesting to watch all the personalities and them trying to establish the "pecking order".

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I love watching horses being introduced

[@martineinfrance]

Incredible and awesome to watch when they gallop all together. Sally has improved. Although they all are equines, do mules behave a bit differently from horses and do horses feel them different from them ? Are mules harder to train than horses or could they do the same things ? It's amazing to see that they are now all ok after a difficult introduction where everybody had to find his rank. The two minis are so cute always together, like big dogs😀 Edit : I hope the poor thing injuried is ok. It was so hard to watch.

[@Goldenhawk583]

If you watch the channel "Modern History TV" you can learn more about the difference between mule training and horse training. Yes, they do act differently, but similar enough to be good buddys, they are half horse, half donkey after all:)

[@martineinfrance]

@@Goldenhawk583 thank you very much, I'll do so👍 yes they are hybridation results and must have got the genes of each parent.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

A friend told me "what you should have done with a horse, must be done with a mule". They are super smart and missing steps won't work for them. I treat the mule the same as i would the horses, but I'm very thorough

[@martineinfrance]

@@VersatileHorsemanship thank you Brandi 👍 maybe they keep a certain trait from the donkey, not easy sometimes but when well treated and loved is ok

[@joannekim5880]

Not sure if you’ve filmed this but I was wondering what you do to get rid of buddy sourness? Thank you for this video

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Joanne Kim I’ll be sure to do a video on that as soon as the opportunity arises

[@samiamisme]

This was so darn interesting. Your farm is beautiful as are the horses. I can't wait to see the farm in summer when there's no snow. I wish the horses had name tags. Lol. It's hard to keep them straight. I'm sure I'll get to know them as I watch more. What's the purpose for having two herds? Do they just not get along? Or too many in one space is crowded? Also, I'm curious, when you put the shelters out, do you have to take typical weather patterns into account? For example, if the wind often blows from east to west, you place it facing west? I get wrapped up on little details, since I'm a city girl (with a country girl heart). 😁 thanks for sharing! 💕

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

samiamisme we place our shelters so they are facing south, that way they have a break from the north wind. I have two herds, on is mine and one for boarders. I don’t like to mix my horses with boarders, I prefer them to be in their own herd.

[@samiamisme]

@@VersatileHorsemanship that makes sense. Thank you for taking time to reply. I'm learning so much! Cheers!

[@cathybrown8617]

What happened to Sally's tail? Why is it short?

[@hootowlholler3760]

Do you have to do that every time you change the horses to a different padock?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

HootOwl Holler it depends on how long they have been separated. I try to avoid disrupting the herd.

[@barbaraselley5288]

1-Obviously u have high status-“Heyheyhey” and horse gets the message. 2-Do you keep your boarding horses in a herd? 3-Notice you always wear the same shape of knitted hat. Wd adding a tassel spook them?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

My boarders horses are in a herd separate from mine. As far as the hat goes... if my horses are spooked by something, I make sure they get over it. But no, they would not be spooked by a tassel on a hat. I just have a small head and like this type of hat.

[@monicap1717]

I think you are Sallys person.... She didnt seem to really buddy up to anyone but maybe Ohnah. I was wondering where the big bay mare was....

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Monica Peterson sally has definitely claimed me as her person

[@barbaraselley5288]

Versatile Horsemanship she made a good person choice. One very lucky mule.

[@lynnmallen9699]

Lol...literally...will you be my friend?? So cute!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

It was so darn cute

[@stephaniegardner6236]

Ouch....poor baby....it will heal up fast....

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

it healed up very nicely

[@rubymetalcat18]

Ouch! Poor Ohnah! 😖

[@KalanMiller]

Has Nocona ever tried to bite Sally or Daisy before?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I’m sure Nocona has bit every equine at one point or another. She sets firm boundaries with all of them.

[@KalanMiller]

@@VersatileHorsemanship oh ok. She sounds quite like an alpha mare.

[@KalanMiller]

​@@VersatileHorsemanship OK. Because after seeing how both animals assert themselves, Nocona biting Ohnah and Sally defending herself by kicking, I'm sure that if Nocona did bite Sally, then I'm pretty sure that Sally did respond back by giving a few kicks. Despite how dominant Nocona is.

[@jessicataylor9462]

Mules are the best!!!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

I love them!

[@racingabay4286]

Blossom is absolutely STUNNING, she is by farrrr my favorite buckskin color. Do you still own her?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Dash For Cash yes, she is one of my personal horses and every instructor that comes to my barn tries to buy her

[@racingabay4286]

@@VersatileHorsemanship I love her, but are they just trying to buy her color I wonder, she looks amazing, keep it up.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Dash For Cash definitely not. I would never take lessons from someone who’s is only interested in a horses color. Blossom is super athletic, a gorgeous mover, and everyone falls in love with her personality. You can’t ride “color”.

[@racingabay4286]

@@VersatileHorsemanship Yep, I always say you can't ride color, and you can't. I once worked for a horse trader (I was trying to bust his operation because he did a lot of bad things to the horses) And we once got a mare who had absolutely no respect, or anything. But she was beautiful, and that's why she was so pushy, and never stood still etc, because the last owners bought her 'color'

[@eternalcarnival]

That was very impressive cinnamon

[@KalanMiller]

Cinnamon is a beautiful horse too

[@eastofeden13]

Probably a stupid question, but will anyone ride Sally in the future?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Veganwitch yes, I will as soon as I find a saddle that fits her.

[@eastofeden13]

Versatile Horsemanship that will be fun to watch, how she’ll react. How about trying a bareback pad with a saddle pad under it? Btw it is amazing to watch all these horses, must be a dream living there \ also pretty hard to manage them all\ 🤘🏼

[@racingabay4286]

I was so confused because I was like "I've seen sally in the field with the others before...." Then I read the description, LOL

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Dash For Cash lol, I tried to give everyone a head up on the community tab. Always read the description in my videos, you never know when they might be from 😊

[@racingabay4286]

@@VersatileHorsemanship Yep, that's why I read it haha

[@smtaz7631]

Wait, Nika is having another baby? Or is this a video shot months ago? I'm confused.

[@lucasa1849]

Karen Shawhan . This video is from months ago. (April 2019)

[@mastersequine7384]

if you read the description, the video was filmed april of 2019

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Karen Shawhan always read the description of my videos, I tend to post content that is older.

[@maryclairekalamafoni9524]

Do regular size horses tend to think of the little guys as less than, putting them at a disadvantage when meeting? Do horses and mules perceive the difference between breeds? species? Is how they decide who's first, second, etc. have more to do with personality? In both class settings I was in I was assigned numb.Two. In the first class the instructor horse was number one. In my second class the number one horse was a sixteen hand stallion who was given to the only boy in class. It was sad though cause he wasn't very experienced. And my sweet, I mean naughty little mare was a handful but if you showed her confidence she gave you whatever you asked for! Forward, backward, right sidestep left sidestep, stop, pivot, go and so forth. No reigns. No heals, all knees, Really good horse! 💓💛💚💙💜 🍀🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Maryclaire Kalamafoni when I introduced daisy the mini to my her she basically owned all of them. Lol, size does not matter

[@CC-xn5xi]

Why did Nicona bite Oona?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

It’s all part of the herd dynamics. That’s how they rank each other. Nocona is clearly saying “I outrank you”. Horses can be pretty brutal.

[@CC-xn5xi]

Just out of the blue, or because new members of the herd were being introduced and causing stress?

[@janicetaylor2486]

Good on Sally, no one was going to get their teeth round her !!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

she's pretty good at staying out of trouble. she doesn't like to cause any either

[@shouloakleyaha7576]

I meant sally she is pretty for a mule very in proportion and pretty for some mules I have seen.xx

[@naunettemartin7450]

I like it it is a pick in order with horse that's is want my horse do

[@metalkingtohorses]

salley is gorgeous!

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Thanks! I think so too 😊

[@CC-xn5xi]

Why did Nicona bite Ohnah's nose?

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Nocona can be a wench to other horses. She's currently separated from the herd for being mean to Miss Kitty.

[@CC-xn5xi]

@@VersatileHorsemanship Good! Consequences!

[@KalanMiller]

Nocona is a big meanie. She's like the mean girl of the bunch.

[@CC-xn5xi]

@@KalanMiller oh no!

[@KalanMiller]

@CC-xn5xi oh no what?

[@suzanneyoung8011]

Was interesting to see the process one by one. The more horses you added the less interest there was in Miss Kitty as they all knew her. Also, I didn't realize Blossom is a buckskin. Thought she was a bay, so I learned something there.

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Suzanne Young blossom keeps getting darker, it’s pretty strange

[@suzanneyoung8011]

@@VersatileHorsemanship wow that's interesting

[@HannaFardew]

It looks like sally was protecting ohnah after she was bit as sally was charging the herd and kicking out when they got too close to ohnah

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Could be

[@KalanMiller]

Ohnah and sally are a good pair together

[@rogerskimberlyg444]

Horses are herd animals. They will figure things out. They all have to reassert themselves over the others to see who gets to be higher horse.

[@abubakaradan2340]

you have to add a stallion so that he can protect the band

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Adding a stallion would be a terrible idea. I’d have a bunch of pregnant mares. It would also be a major safety issue considering I use my horses for riding lessons and students bring horses in from the herd.

[@courtneyroboto6749]

Ok I'm pretty sure Sally is me. All attitude.

[@laurabonnell582]

Poor baby

[@streneamorgan4864]

It hurts her poor thing

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

sure does

[@sharonfinn2901]

Knew that was going to happen & I dont know your horses .. ridiculous putting that many horses together all at once = Asking for trouble

[@VersatileHorsemanship]

Gotta be one know it all jerk in every crowd 😂 go elsewhere