Addressable Fire Alarm System | Apollo XP95 | Electrical Life

Probably going to get ripped to shreds by all the fire alarm engineers for stepping into their territory!
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[@Renny143]

Haven’t fitted any fire alarm stuff in years, I only remember those Apollo sounder bases being a pain to fit lol

[@Cablesmith]

My lord your right ! So right 😂😂

[@brianoneill350]

Good video, nice tidy job. Extra box for documents great idea.

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks mate. Appreciate you watching

[@robbiedix6775]

When I served my 5 year apprenticeship (in the UK) in the early 70’s we installed fire alarms in MICC (Pyro), clipped every 150mm brass screws and fiber wall plugs. This is much easier. Regards from South Africa.

[@Cablesmith]

Oh for sure the older fire systems were a real task and required skilled installers for sure ! Thanks for watching Robbie 👏🏼

[@metrotechguru5863]

Really fine job. Enjoyed the video. That's a right nice pub.

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks dude 😃

[@ForTheBirbs]

Thanks for your video! Nice seeing how fire system stuff is done in UK.

[@Cablesmith]

Thank you for watching it Jim 👌🏼

[@jonny1929]

Quality job mate. Very tidy install 👏🏻

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks mate 🙏🏻

[@TheGreatDeception01]

Nice work top job. You make me miss doing fire alarms a little bit.

[@Cablesmith]

I was dreading this job, because I used to work for a firm that done huge fire alarm jobs like Manchester airport etc, and it got soo boring, but doing this I really enjoyed it ! Ironic ey 😂

[@gmeadowcroft84]

Awsome vid mate, enjoyed it

[@Cablesmith]

Cheers mukka 👌🏼

[@paullyons4624]

Great video, something different and very interesting.

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks Paul

[@chema_lopez]

Nice video, thanks for sharing

[@Cablesmith]

Thank you 😊

[@fst1775]

Great Video! you should do more of this!! :)

[@Cablesmith]

I’d love to mate but I don’t get asked for fire alarm much.

[@ryankershaw1343]

Great video!

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks Ryan

[@RichardArblaster]

Great job Sean 😎

[@Cablesmith]

Tar mi lar

[@MattJ2906]

Clocked that giant haystacks comment on the last video had a good laugh at that myself 😂

[@Cablesmith]

😂😂 hes has a few lookalike mentions over the years 😂

[@adierob1]

Great video bud thoroughly enjoyed it I found it really interesting, last done fire alarms 10 years ago that Apollo gear has really came on used to use Apollo gear with jsb panels jsb is probably defunct now like the new call points were you don't have to change the glass. Can remember years ago wiring fire alarms in pyro and can remember when some fire alarms were 240 volt and ones that were 24 volt having non rechargeable batteries in them. When I was 18 and an apprentice my boss sent me to a brewery I had to test a bank of batteries that were old and fed from an ancient gent power supply on the wall. All the batteries combined produced 240 volts and I had to safely disconnect everything and measure the voltage and not create sparks or the place would of went up, talk about frightening my a-se was like a rabbits nose 😆😆 tony boss turned up and he showed me how to do it safely. I can laugh now many years on lol.

[@Cablesmith]

Your boss sent an 18 year old to a brewery! 💪🏻 legend. That’s really interesting mate I never knew fire alarms were once 240v ! Assumed they’d always been 24v even with pyro.

[@Cablesmith]

Also, thanks for watching mate ☺️ appreciate it

[@Sparks1Plumbers0]

It's that face... Frightens all the women, especially in the dark. 🤣😂 Another cracking video m8. Keep them coming.👍

[@Cablesmith]

😂😂😂 thanks I guess 😂

[@nisarhussain4021]

Great.

[@Cablesmith]

Thank you

[@ianm1470]

Great video and neat install ~ hope you both got a free pint or two from the landlord ~ you deserve it 🍻

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks Ian ! appreciate the views and comment from you consistently 👌🏼

[@roydowling2542]

I thought VAD was for visual audio detector. Top job as always. I always enjoyed doing fire alarm because I always enjoyed working with FP cable. So easy to work with.

[@Cablesmith]

yea it’s a nice cable and smells great 😂 I still never checked what VAD was but some VADs don’t make a sound so cant be audio.

[@roydowling2542]

@@Cablesmith I googled it and your correct. Visual alarm detector.

[@Cablesmith]

@@roydowling2542 now I can’t remember what I said in the video 😂 feel like I said something different every time I said it 😩😂

[@ryankershaw1343]

VAD is Visual Alarm Device

[@hj-installations.3838]

It stands for visual alarm device :D

[@o04n7h0n90o]

Pro scaff tower building skills there kid ;)

[@Cablesmith]

😂 thanks matey

[@NigelBirch-xc5xo]

Good job young fella...

[@Cablesmith]

Wish I was young again 😂 thanks mate

[@NigelBirch-xc5xo]

I'm a 72yrs old now part time maintenance sparks...to me you look very capable and young...take it as a compliment ..good lad..

[@Cablesmith]

@@NigelBirch-xc5xo oh I did don’t worry 😉 just don’t feel it anymore 😂

[@wayneandvon]

Nice tidy job mate. Only thing I would add is to produce an as fitted drawing. Future faults will be found quicker.

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks mate, yea this was left with them after commissioning.

[@wayneandvon]

Very good job though

[@RichardArblaster]

'ey up big boi 😎

[@B3CK377]

Good tidy job. The linen clips make the difference. You should change the fused spur to a keyswitch type, or a tamper proof type that is marked fire alarm do not switch off. Also, pit date labels on the batteries (don't write on), otherwise, excellent video. Those XP95 sounder bases are definietly fiddly

[@Cablesmith]

Yea someone else mentioned the spur, I’m gonna change that now I know. Nice idea for the batteries too 👌🏼 thanks

[@B3CK377]

@@Cablesmith don't forget a fire zone plan that is orientation correct to the fore panel. Ensure that it shows staircases and exits atleast

[@Dime_Bar]

Why don't write on the battery, how is a permanent marker going to effect the battery?

[@user-ho1df9lw9k]

Hope you pushed the earth sleave in as far as possible and applied insulation tape to secure sleave

[@electricalservicesmaroc]

Good

[@Cablesmith]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@electricalservicesmaroc]

@@Cablesmith you welcome to come to Morocco 🇲🇦

[@Cablesmith]

@@electricalservicesmaroc I wish I could afford that luxury 😁

[@jamesbarnett176]

Does the power supply coming from the spur/fuse need to be a special tamper proof one? (i.e. operated by a key)?

[@Cablesmith]

It does indeed, the commissioning bloke swapped it over. 😬

[@robertwilliamson3934]

Neat job love that clips never seen them before Does the break glass drops not have to be in a metallic raceway ie conduit if under 7 ft tho

[@Cablesmith]

Thanks mate, yep the clips are great. Never heard that about break glass drops before. Are you in the U.K. ? maybe your right but I can’t see that being the case here

[@robertwilliamson3934]

@@Cablesmith scotland last couple of alarm jobs we had to put drops in metal conduit thot it was a reg but could be wrong The guy commissioning it would have known

[@Cablesmith]

@@robertwilliamson3934 hes not been yet, tomorrow he’s coming !

[@robertwilliamson3934]

@@Cablesmith take him to the bar first lol

[@Cablesmith]

@@robertwilliamson3934 😂😂

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

i was wondering what you do with the old fire alarm equipment as for alarm collectors like us would buy it

[@Cablesmith]

Hi Finlay, so in this case the old detectors etc stayed in place as they didn’t want to have holes in the tiles etc, unless we used the same position. as for the panel that went in the skip unfortunately. I’d have gladly sent it to you free of charge if I’d have known. next time ey ? 👌🏼

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

@@Cablesmith sounds nice thanks

[@JayTheSparky]

Giant Haystacks 🤣🤣🤣

[@Cablesmith]

😂😂😂

[@Skidmark1974]

Non compliant fused spur matey

[@Cablesmith]

Was* non compliant, isn’t anymore 😃

[@LC_sirens_and_Sounders]

do you rip out old fire alarm systems?

[@Cablesmith]

I don’t do many of them at all tbh, but yes in cases like this one we did. Why?

[@RichardArblaster]

13:21 so it's all about the base? 😆😆😆

[@obsirensandalarms]

on fire alarm systems, it’s ALL about the base 😂

[@Dime_Bar]

Looks a nice job just a shame about the choice of panel.

[@Cablesmith]

Why’s everyone hating on the panel ? 😂

[@Dime_Bar]

@@Cablesmith not user friendly and the information it gives you when it goes into fire is rubbish, you then have to faff about on the panel trying to find what's in fire.

[@Cablesmith]

@@Dime_Bar this one did end up with a fault recently due to the roof leaking. Have a look on my Instagram. It said “fault gents cubicle sounder” I’m not disagreeing with you as you probably know I’m no expert in this field and I simply used what my wholesalers quoted for. I’d be interested learning more and about other systems

[@jsecret9459]

Doesn't the spur need to be on a keyswitch?

[@Cablesmith]

Not that I know of anyway, but I’ll look into it now.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

They do usual have a key switch and are red in colour

[@jsecret9459]

What I found was, BS 5839 reads, "Means should be provided for double pole isolation of the mains supply to all parts of the system; the isolation facilities should be suitably sited, in the vicinity of the equipment served, for use by maintenance technicians without the need for access to remote parts of the building. It should be possible to lock the facilities in both the normal and isolate positions to prevent unauthorized use. See Clause 25." I think BS 5839 trumps 7671. Pretty sure it needs a keyswitch, indicator and in red now. 🤷‍♂️

[@Cablesmith]

@@acelectricalsecurity I’ve seen a couple with key switches but only ever metal clad grey, never seen red ones before now. Thanks for the heads up guys 👌🏼

[@pnxelectrical]

@@jsecret9459 it's a misconception that it (key switch) has to be red, there is no such requirement but you are correct with it needing to be double pole. BS EN 54-22 states the device name as a 'Visual Alarm Device' (These MUST be red strobes, any other colour and it becomes a Visual Alert Device - These can be any other colour but must NOT be red.

[@MithileshMuraven]

Hi, can you tell me why i get integrity faults?😊

[@Cablesmith]

The panel probably just needs resetting in engineer mode most likely.

[@MithileshMuraven]

@@Cablesmith i will check this

[@MithileshMuraven]

@@Cablesmith how to reset it on engineer plz

[@Cablesmith]

@@MithileshMuraven off the top of my head I’m not sure, but turn the key to enter engineer mode and try the green reset button. Failing that look through the engineer menu

[@Cablesmith]

Also, make sure the detectors are clean and dust free as that’s often a cause

[@finleymitchell2933]

i wish you set it off

[@Cablesmith]

Damn I wish I filmed that too !

[@BJJJAY985]

Local isolation is non compliant

[@Cablesmith]

With a key switch ?

[@BJJJAY985]

@@Cablesmith yea you got it ,installs nice tho I'm still banging in p clips everyday mainly due to price but may haveto start using thoose linian clips loads quicker , the metal ctec panels are great for smaller installs when your standby time doesn't require anything bigger than 7 AH batteries , we use plenty of them with no problems 😊

[@Cablesmith]

@@BJJJAY985 yea those linians are excellent imo

[@99heinze]

Why does it need to be commissioned by a third party out of interest?

[@Cablesmith]

it doesn’t necessarily, in my case here, I know the commission guy personally, he’s Bafe registered and he knows what he’s doing a lot more than I do 😃 I just know it’s all Bob on when he does it

[@samanadam2442]

You should go a little bit more details we didn’t get any information did we just we see you in the toilet with a butterfly?

[@Cablesmith]

😂😂 what information do you want? It’s not supposed to be a “how to” video

[@jackcroot1]

Out of interest, why can't you do the commissioning yourself?

[@Cablesmith]

just because I don’t have the software, and to tell you the truth, I don’t do it enough to be confident it would be correct, it could be a life or death situation and I’d rather not take that risk with my little experience. Happy to know it’s been set up and checked over by a man that only commissions alarms. Maybe overkill I know.

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

Meh apollo is boring. Ziton is what you need

[@Cablesmith]

only ever used Apollo or protec’s gear myself. might have a nosey

[@fst1775]

Apollo is brilliant it ain’t boring.

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

@@fst1775 it is you see it everywhere its soooo boring.

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

@@fst1775 it is its fucking shite you see it everwhere its good quality but its boring becuase you see it all the time

[@FinlaysFireSystemsElectrical]

@@Cablesmith yeah protec is pretty nice