ADHD and Autism: The overlap of traits in smart kids & adults

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Broadcasting ADHD Europe

Broadcasting ADHD Europe

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Thomas E. Brown, internationally-recognized psychologist and writer, will share an updated understanding of ADHD with and without complications such as autistic traits. He will also describe ways to provide effective support and treatment for those who struggle with such difficulties so these talented kids and adults can flourish.

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@AlexiHolford
@AlexiHolford Жыл бұрын
I find it hurtful when someone who knows I have ADHD says, “Where there is a will, there is a way.” I am doing the best I can.
@jonaskoelker
@jonaskoelker Жыл бұрын
I guess a reasonably polite way of calling people out on their bullshit is to ask them to show you. One phrase you might use is "how have you found out?". Another phrase, specific to "[...] there is a way", is "show me the way". Making it clear to everyone that someone doesn't know what they're talking about inherently involves that person not saving face. I haven't thought about a face-saving way of acknowledging that one has been bullshitting.
@bhavya5692
@bhavya5692 Жыл бұрын
But i just honestly forget , and its not even funny anymore
@raven4090
@raven4090 Жыл бұрын
@@jonaskoelker Great advice! I'll try to remember that next time it happens to me.
@alexhardy1983
@alexhardy1983 Жыл бұрын
That's insentive don't worry Karma will come around to them.
@shingaki.channel
@shingaki.channel Жыл бұрын
well ask them to do some of the things we find normal but many others couldn't do... I can stay 40 hours in a row no sleeping and be hyperactive... at 46 years old... when I talk with other people my age... most of them could not passed from 24 hs non sleep... so "where there is a will" not always work... 🤷🏻‍♀️... and then if some people get too stubborn, one thing that I started to do and sometimes ask is: "do you want to be right? or do you want to learn?" If the first one then it makes no sense to keep talking...
@raven4090
@raven4090 Жыл бұрын
This was really good. I think this doctor really has a lot of understanding. I just have one problem...Most autistic people are hyperempathetic. Just because they don't express it the way NT people think they should doesn't mean it's not there. Some are afraid to show their feelings because they've been punished for it in their past. Some just dont know what to say or if they say anything it's misinterpreted. After a while they keep quiet. Some are just overwhelmed. Ask them how they feel about something before you assume they don't feel anything. If I had no empathy I wouldn't be so bothered by this myth being spread.
@rachelwalker3761
@rachelwalker3761 Жыл бұрын
I agree and have experienced this a lot in my personal and professional life as diagnosed, in relationships and supporting children and adults with ADD and ASD
@blossom654
@blossom654 Жыл бұрын
I agree! In addition, I have experienced (being diagnosed autistic myself) to have been soooo stressed with overwhelm, that I can feel some disassociation and numb, until I get adequate rest, self care, be around loved ones and good times, and I like get back into my body, and can better connect with my feelings and emotions, and thus reconnect deeper with my empathy.
@user-yt5dg8nf6y
@user-yt5dg8nf6y Жыл бұрын
I just read your comment after I wrote about my son. You are completely correct.
@tinamancusi8094
@tinamancusi8094 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!! I would air on the side of being super empathic. As you stated, as children we were with adults who did not know how to handle emotions and would shut us down for having them. We then learn to hide and repress. How many of us have heard “what are you crying for….I’ll give you something to cry about!”. Or being physically reacted to for being super sensitive. Our whole issue is our ability to process the overwhelming amount of information coming in through our senses and the inner sensations (emotions) as a result of our thoughts. We are super intense, super sensitive and highly highly repressed. At least that is true for me, I cannot speak for anyone else. Being neurodivergent is NOT a disorder or disability. It is quite the opposite. It is a brain that is wired in an advanced way, ahead of its time because the world is still operating on the previous version and is not set up for this type of wiring. Absolutely ALL brains, all kinds of versions of wiring are completely necessary and purposeful. We are all pieces of one very large puzzle. Each important, purposeful and completely necessary in order to see the whole picture. Sending love to all of humanity ❤ We need to come together, not separate ourselves into different piles.
@annfrankish5507
@annfrankish5507 Жыл бұрын
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@lovelife9332
@lovelife9332 Жыл бұрын
I have Autism and I am a very empathetic person. I had 6 hours of standardized testing and interview by a psychologist. I believe you need tests not just a conversation. I also think the tests need to be updated for adults and females. I think the empathy factor needs to be reevaluated
@michellealdis1271
@michellealdis1271 Жыл бұрын
it's nice to see them making some headway into coming to terms with Autism and other neurodivergence as it actually is, but they will never be right so long as they continue to pathologize us and our beautiful minds.
@AJansenNL
@AJansenNL Жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you. As a female on the autistic spectrum this kind of thinking seems very out-dated. In fact, alarm bells started to ring when he started to talk about co-morbid psychiatric diagnoses. We now know many females get labelled with anxiety etc because the professionals have a far too narrow view of autism and miss non-stereotypical presentations.
@anaalvensleben789
@anaalvensleben789 Жыл бұрын
@@AJansenNL In my case, it's less labeled with anxiety instead of, but more if you get a chronic depression diagnosis, you automatically get one for generalized anxiety. However, the cause of said depression is what gets missed and sometimes health professionals just seem to 'give up' at depression and don't dig further.
@AJansenNL
@AJansenNL Жыл бұрын
@@anaalvensleben789 "Give up" is generous. Many of these professionals treat 'woman' as synonymous for 'depressed, anxious', etc. Even if there's a clear physical cause. Studies show it takes women much longer, years often, to get the right diagnosis and treatment. With dire consequences. It's just lazy and biased.
@verastanding
@verastanding Жыл бұрын
@@anaalvensleben789 Hi there, Wow, At 60 I have a diagnosis of chronic depression which made sense to me given daily suicidal thoughts and one attempt at 21yrs of age. Empathy, yes I'm super empathic. I checked out my medical records online recently and there I found I had also been diagnosed with ADHD. That also made sense to me and everyone that knows me well. (my kids, and close friends etc). Since diagnosis my sister in law has indicated to me that my brother is definitely autistic and she believes my father was autistic. Once it was pointed out, it made so much sense and my life made so much sense. With a year on enlafaxine my mind has settled, I'm focused, I have no anxiety, I process life and work tasks so easily. I am a very tactile person (no sensory issues), I enjoy close friends company which is playful with lots of laughter. Once I have used up a certain amount of energy, I need to plug back in to myself to recharge and get very frustrated and resentful of people trying to chat to me. I have an excellent long term memory....Anyway, I'm starting to believe that i may have asbergers too (type 1.) Oh one thing I realised once it was pointed out to me that its a trait is that I prefer to look at mouths when talking to someone which is what autistic people do. I can only be with people that I find very interesting. I like to dig deep into subjects for weeks, months years, then I'm over it and find something else....I'm blathering, but what I mean is, I think I have autism too.
@AngieF8
@AngieF8 Жыл бұрын
Also, I have had male friends and a son who have Asperger's and one friend said that, although he has trained himself to make eye contact it is the overwhelming emotions that he picks up from people's eyes that causes the difficulty. It's not a lack of empathy, it's that the sensitivity is too high and there is a shutting down to try to dampen the emotions and "energy" picked up from others. It's very draining.
@KittyCat-ur6tl
@KittyCat-ur6tl Жыл бұрын
Yes
@LIFE8destiny
@LIFE8destiny Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I think this may be one of the reasons I want and do not want to have eye contact. I will be sure to notice my patterns of WHEN I am instantly overwhelmed at the moments of just prior to intentional eye contact. Thank you for this new percept.intercept. Be well.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Hypersensitivity to stimuli is a key aspect of ASD. Yet for years, instead of recognizing that eye contact could be one of those stimuli, the profession labelled us as unfeeling.
@anonenormous2376
@anonenormous2376 Жыл бұрын
I had to do the same when I was younger. I'm 31 now and sometimes I am still bad with eye contact without realising it. It can be a pretty intense feeling looking into someone's eyes.
@user-yt5dg8nf6y
@user-yt5dg8nf6y Жыл бұрын
My son is autistic and doesn't show empathy but definitely feels it. He said he has difficulty showing it but definitely feels it a lot!
@LaurieLPhotographyVancouverWA
@LaurieLPhotographyVancouverWA Жыл бұрын
remove all gmo foods and eat organic. treat the cause, not the problem.
@marian-gabriel9518
@marian-gabriel9518 Жыл бұрын
@@LaurieLPhotographyVancouverWA The cause IS the problem; that's what the word problem means ie. the reason for an undesired outcome. Also the banana, corn, tomatoes, beans etc, are some of the oldest examples of organic GMOs spanning hundreds and even thousands of years. Try again.
@LaurieLPhotography
@LaurieLPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@marian-gabriel9518 I did try, and it worked. But thank U 4 YOUR thoughts. Keep doing what your doing if it’s working for you.
@raven4090
@raven4090 Жыл бұрын
I believe you. I have the same problem as your son.
@LaurieLPhotography
@LaurieLPhotography Жыл бұрын
@@marian-gabriel9518 - actually… what makes U think we eat those foods U list?? We actually don’t. Banana’s R full of sugars, corn is waaay too GMO, tomatoes R way 2 high in lectins, & beans R pure carbs. Your comment is FULL of assumptions. I think your mind is stuck in a ‘I’m always right’ mode. Best of luck …
@KMx108
@KMx108 Жыл бұрын
I'm up late, occupying my mind with this video and waiting to get sleepy ...and lol...he just described what I'm doing. This guy is good.
@therabbithat
@therabbithat 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Brown's book was the first thing I read about ADHD, just because I was studying attention in college and thought it might help to read it in my free time... and it could have been written about me, so thank you so much!!!
@lysfrommarple
@lysfrommarple Жыл бұрын
The Adult autism assessment unit in Sheffield, UK is excellent. Unfortunately the diagnostic process for ASD and ADD is totally separate. In my experience you can wait 4 years for an autism diagnosis and then have to start from scratch to get an ADD diagnosis if you then realise you have both. I have autism and am very empathic. I recognise the emotions I just have no idea how to get my sympathy across.I understand metaphors but I am a prolific reader so that might have helpped because I am very literal in general.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
Then the assessment unit is not "excellent," it is part of the problem. No profession that truly cared about people's suffering would put anyone through what you describe. There's not even any evidence ADD and autism are separate disorders! They are just separate boxes they put us into, and then act all surprised when they discover "comorbidities." It is absolutely absurd that one unit can only diagnose autism and you have to go to a separate unit to diagnose ADD. What a Kafkaesque nightmare!
@underneaththecape4055
@underneaththecape4055 Жыл бұрын
A lot of these things described me well. It was kind of funny how when you stated "They'll be sitting at the table talking with you and their knee is bouncing up and down, shaking the table" My knee was bouncing at that moment!
@johnries5593
@johnries5593 Жыл бұрын
The conductor analogy is a good one. I joke that the problem with the word "disorganized" is the implicit assumption that the person was once organized ("unorganized" is better). I didn't realize that the phenomenal long term memory combined with poor short term memory is an ADHD characteristic (what I call "flypaper mind"). Had I known that, I would have sought a diagnosis in young adulthood. And then there are some of us who focus better with modest amounts of background noise (or even movies, sporting events, e-books, or lectures; or conversations with similarly challenged co-workers). The way this appears to work is to quiet the internal conversation, allowing one to actively work on what one is supposed to. I call it "soaking up the extra CPU cycles". Another common focusing strategy for me when unmedicated is the "Zen approach": focus by not focusing (works better than consciously trying to focus). In any case, don't ever leave me in a silent room and expect me to work effectively (unless I'm supposed to be reading). I am literal minded, but do get metaphors to an extent. I love word play.
@potatoO0o
@potatoO0o Жыл бұрын
I definitely feel empathy on the same if not higher level than neurotypicals. I just have issues how and how intensly I get it out so I just repress it. Sometimes it also doesn't come out the way it supposed to. For example I once smiled big when wishing condolences to a widow.
@potatoO0o
@potatoO0o Жыл бұрын
@Infinite Shoeblack good to know you know me better than I know myself. Next time I'm feeling something I'll just call you. Twat.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
@Infinite Shoeblack She said she feels empathy. WTF makes you think it is not "true" empathy? Everyone I know who has trouble with inappropriate smiles, it's due to anxiety, not "thinking how the feeling should manifest." We feel very deeply, and then the anxiety interferes, so then we also feel the pain of another messed up social interaction.
@EastEndSongStudio
@EastEndSongStudio 7 ай бұрын
Dr. Brown's explanation neurotransmitters is the first that I have actually been able to understand.
@Noelbluesky
@Noelbluesky Жыл бұрын
God. I wish the people who cared about me, would take the time to watch and understand this. I really make an effort trying to do behavior adjustments etc, but it is not quite enough. There are no good therapists here, who treat older women with Adhd. In fact, my neurologist flatly told me that "only boys have adhd, and they outgrow it in adolescence" I said Obviously doctor, you don't believe nor utilize continuing education, and walked out of his office. smh 🤨😟
@515aleon
@515aleon Жыл бұрын
Not only is the "good" doctor out of date, he's out of date by about 40 years, I think. Plus or. minus. I am 74, I was dxed with the old term for ADD (Minimal Brain dysfunction) in my late 20s. I am transgender guy (who was not transitioned then), and was in my late 20s and they hadn't even invented the term ADD/ADHD. I also took the drug Deaner, which is now an orphan drug for ADD/ADHD.
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
Get a new neurologist, a woman if necessary:?)
@sebastian3004
@sebastian3004 Жыл бұрын
'I wish the people who cared about me, would take the time to watch and understand this' I've seen the patterns of ADHD people blaming others for not being Compassionate.
@515aleon
@515aleon Жыл бұрын
@@RichardAlsenz Yeah agreed. Though if you live in a rural area or a small town, you'd be lucky to find a couple decent ones (saying this from experience I'm afraid).
@pattismith6958
@pattismith6958 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastian3004 people with adhd (alone) get bullied by everybody (parents, teachers, coaches and kids) because they don’t function the same as everybody else. About half of people with adhd will have a depressive disorder sometime in their life; 2x that of NTs. And about 13% commit suicide; 4x the rate of NTs. And you’re gonna come on here and cry that a few ADHDers told other people they weren’t being compassionate?! The pattern is this: when someone’s not compassionate, they’re gonna hear about it sometimes. And studies show that those with ADHD have higher rates of depression, anxiety, and suicide because they’re aren’t shown enough compassion. How much compassion are you showing here; coming onto this individual’s personal experience comment, and complaining cause “some adhders” told other people they weren’t showing compassion?!
@gregorybabbitt2082
@gregorybabbitt2082 5 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder if ASD and ADHD type personality traits, which often co-occur in many people, might actually represent a much evolutionary older form of 'normal' in human behavior. If you think about it, in their higher functioning manifestations, these traits can be quite advantageous in the natural environment. The love of repetitive motion and routine (ASD) could have been harnessed for all sorts of adaptive technological things like spinning wool, grinding corn, gathering nuts and seeds, or making stone tools, whereas the ability to be hyperactive, quick and impulsive, and notice changes in finer details of the environment (i.e. distractions within ADHD) could have been clearly an asset in tracking and hunting. Only once cities and civilizations were built upon the backs of these hard-working and talented people, would the evolution of neurotypical traits and social politics become more useful. Has anyone out there ever seen any academic study of this idea? I would love to see a video exploring this possibility. BTW - I am a biologist by training, not a psychologist.
@MysteryGrey
@MysteryGrey 5 ай бұрын
I read your interesting comment in another ADHD video comment section.
@entropy2283
@entropy2283 4 ай бұрын
You're hitting near the mark. IMO society is sick not these people who are recently labelled dysfunctional or subnormal (it's a very recent phenomenon). Psychiatric labels are harmful IMHO and teachers should be more focused on the individual and their individual learning needs than expect everyone to learn the exact same way (and then label those who don't mentally subnormal). -someone labelled ADD as a kid who rejects such labels for many reasons.
@hoi1429
@hoi1429 3 ай бұрын
Yes! You should look up Swanepoel et al., 2017 and Swanepoel et al., 2022 - I think you’d find it very interesting! Another interesting take is life history theory and it’s link with ADHD
@tomsale5142
@tomsale5142 Ай бұрын
And stress makes it all worse in society today
@pinchebruha405
@pinchebruha405 Жыл бұрын
I’m just going to cry now……so many peoples words hurt me beyond belief out of ignorance. ‘If I can do it so can you’ I tried to do it there way it never worked…ever, just reinforced that I was not normal….what does that even mean anymore
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
Don't make things worse, just learn how to deal with it, may not be easy but you will .
@BrianCArmstrong
@BrianCArmstrong Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this....I worked out I had Aspergers a while ago....your comment on memory was the first time I had this. Had great long term memory but terrible short term memory. It is the first I had heard this and rings so strong with me. I am still trying to work myself out, this adds one step towards my understanding of myself.
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
I have experienced the same. For me it has aided me to recall and review. I find I do have an almost full memory of my life events. This improves my short term recall. Once I focus I can recall most of the detail. I used to think I had poor recall, but that is not true. I recall deciding to learn to walk at eight months and waiting to return to bed to begin learning, I never fell in the learning process. Try practicing, it works for me.
@Yume03
@Yume03 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the examples presented about the child not understanding why his peers would feel bad about being seemingly talked down to has less to do with lack of empathy and more to do with lack of understanding of needing to feel good about yourself in comparison to others. Feeling others pain of grief or pain during a breakup for example is different from understanding why someone would feel the need to look good in front of other people imo. 😅 Many autistic people seem to struggle to understand social hierarchy and how important it is to neurotypical individuals.
@Sabsterjoon
@Sabsterjoon Жыл бұрын
This lecture is of tremendous value.
@susanmcnally6408
@susanmcnally6408 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I am a psychotherapist with ADD and other comorbidity features. One of my three sons has Asperger’s syndrome and one of his sons also has that disorder also. I am also an artist. Writer and poet with difficulty making friends but I can help patients understand and express feelings. My functioning is so variable it’s frustrating. I’m not medicated because I’ve seen rebound in children being treated for ADHD and I seem to be able to muddle through. I’ve become philosophical about my brain farts and laugh when I hit a dysfunction junction. Thanks for this presentation.
@fascistscansuckit
@fascistscansuckit Жыл бұрын
A huge chunk of my adult life was defined by getting shite done because I really wanted to prevent something awful from happening, aka adrenaline pushing action putting out small fires medium fires and oh my gosh not having much time left in any given day to unwind and do interest based stuff...a surefire way to burnout and then adhd goes off the HOOK.
@DamnBMO
@DamnBMO 8 ай бұрын
I’m someone who hasn’t been diagnosed yet and they consensus of my psychologist believe it’s a neurological issue be it adhd or autism and tbh that’s truly terrifying for me whose only 21, watching this video seeing the symptoms of both and seeing how much I related was truly scary but I hope that this video helped a lot of people in the understanding of the disorders to get people with them proper care that they need
@jay_thee_bean8794
@jay_thee_bean8794 Жыл бұрын
This makes alot of sense as my brother has aspergers and I have adhd and we tend to share alot of traits and knowing this it makes alot of sense why we are so close and act so similar
@jay_thee_bean8794
@jay_thee_bean8794 10 ай бұрын
@Mp that's great and I'm super proud of your son that's a huge improvement my brother used to be non verbal and now he can fully speak and function as usual and in collage becoming a physciatirist
@AmandaDunagin
@AmandaDunagin 10 ай бұрын
I'm here because I have a child who is the definition of ADHD combined type. He's hyperlexic and learned to read at age 2. He's also gifted, he was solving puzzles at age 1 and he creatively solves his problems and was a math wiz at age 3. He was speech delayed but finally caught up at age 5. I can't get a consistent diagnosis of autism, everyone seems to have differing opinions. He makes eye contact and he reads people but he's also known to elope and have meltdowns. His ADOS score says autism but the doctors are ignoring that because he makes eye contact and can manipulate people. One pediatrician says that Asperger's is what describes him. I'd say he's gifted and mildly on the spectrum but definitely ADHD. I'm worried about him because he has such huge potential but can't follow instructions or stay in one place for more than a couple of seconds.
@themela9showwithfulaniyira338
@themela9showwithfulaniyira338 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I’m healing myself to live better. The past doesn’t matter to me. This is my peace road and healing for myself.
@lindasplaylist100
@lindasplaylist100 Жыл бұрын
Great webinar. Thank you so much.
@kingbehemoth7821
@kingbehemoth7821 Жыл бұрын
Everyone treats me like I’m normal. I am not normal. I’ve always been emotional. 😢 No one ever believes me.
@CipherFilms
@CipherFilms Жыл бұрын
Way I see it, ADHD is just barely visible and invisible enough to the point where people might tell something's off, but can't place it because it's not as obvious as autism, so you just get brushed aside as 'normal' while still treated like a freak by your peers because you don't fully fit in.
@raven4090
@raven4090 Жыл бұрын
@@CipherFilms It's the same problem with autism.
@licriss
@licriss Жыл бұрын
Its super frustrating because the visible symptoms appear like behaviour with negative intentions to others that dont experience it I think its also why we often read intentionally deceptive people as having more positive intentions than they do
@raven4090
@raven4090 Жыл бұрын
@@licriss I think you're right about both those points.
@sarahrodriguez7101
@sarahrodriguez7101 Жыл бұрын
@@CipherFilms maybe you just have BPD rather than ADHD. BPD gets confused a lot of with ASD. A lot of people with ASD get diagnosed with BPD so autism gets missed.
@kellywaller8829
@kellywaller8829 11 ай бұрын
Speaking about difficulties with falling asleep as I sit watiching this after 3 am
@graceatbaker
@graceatbaker Жыл бұрын
I've been suspecting that I'm on the autism spectrum for the past 5+ yrs. Throughout my adult life, my friends who have ADHD diagnoses have sworn that I have pretty pronounced ADHD. However, I'm very highly functioning, female (thus in my early childhood 30+ yrs ago, I wouldn't have been marked as a possible autistic child) and have been academically high-achieving. For the past 10+ yrs I've been in a traditionally male dominated profession and chalked up any criticism of my bluntness and characterization of being too "stubborn" in my advocacy to unfair, institutional sexism that I also saw happening to my female colleagues. I have experienced overt sexism in professional settings and have carefully cultivated a flat, uninviting affect and what most call an icy poker face that came easily due to my natural RBF. I always knew I wasn't like other ppl, and thinking back on my childhood there were definite weeks of selective mutism in new settings, and in my late teens/early 20's I found the concept of romantic love highly confusing because there wasn't a universal justifiable reason I could find. I have had romantic relationships but always needed a logical, justifiable reason from my partners for their interest in me or it was incredibly difficult to trust/believe that their affection was genuine. I'm sure it's not easy to love someone like me, and I've been told so many times. I don't feel loneliness like other ppl, and quizzed close friends about their experiences of loneliness, etc. like a fictional alien on a fact-finding mission would to try to assimilate into human society. I am confused as to whether I'm either ADHD or autistic or excessively introverted, but my mom refuses to believe that I could be "abnormal" because I have been so high-functioning, "masked" very well. She does not know how much effort I put into human observation and study to try to fit in, make judgment calls on what I would be able to do to achieve a certain level of "acceptance" and whether it was worth the emotional/mental/physical exhaustion and struggles. But I see it as a double-sided coin. I have difficulty socializing or connecting with ppl, but it's not a tragedy to me because I don't feel the need to connect with other ppl as intensely as others. It's not all bad, there's a positive side to being wired differently.
@djmensil7303
@djmensil7303 Жыл бұрын
Reading your comment just made me remember an episode I watched as a child of the show Arthur about autism its a cute episode I think you should check out /gen
@W0lfm0ther
@W0lfm0ther Жыл бұрын
We stand in solidarity together. I resonate with your experience
@laurendelacruz245
@laurendelacruz245 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know. I do not make connections with people, I do like my alone time, but I also love being around people and keenly feel loneliness.
@SpookyBur
@SpookyBur Жыл бұрын
Man I feel seen I feel the exact same way I was completely baffled in middle school when it came to relationships it made no logical sense. I’ve been wondering if I’m autistic as well because I too feel like an alien I used to practice facial expressions in the mirror and I took a lot of acting classes not because I necessarily liked it but because it helped me fit in. I’m absolutely exhausted after events I go into a state of extreme introversion almost like a burn out phase for weeks after Christmas and other intense events and I sit and think about how I handled the holiday and if I passed with my happy/surprised expressions and which jokes landed and which were kind of awkward the one facial expression I can easily recognize is like disappointment or like confusion because then I know I’ve really messed up and I need to brush up on my facial expressions and reactions again. I’m also incredibly blunt I don’t think anyone is a mind reader and it really bothers me when people don’t shoot straight. It’s caused me a lot of issues in personal relationships because I’m not always great at modulating my voice when I’m going through my exhaustion periods. It’s not that I’m mad or frustrated it’s that I have zero energy to put into finding the nice or friendly pitch. Idk I’m either autistic or a sociopath. But I have a deep sense of empathy so I’m inclined to believe it’s probably autism. I also picked a career path that was male dominated and I fit right in because I didn’t have to sugar coat anything for anyone. None of them blamed me for being blunt or calling them on messing up. A lot of them found it a relief to work for me because I never had hidden expectations what you see is what you get. My mother also has a hard time believing that I could have autism she’s not supportive of me getting a diagnosis at all.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 11 ай бұрын
@@laurendelacruz245 same here. It's hell to be an extrovert and autistic. The really painful thing for me is realizing now how all these years I shunned others like myself because I was so desperate not to admit I was not "normal." When all along I could have been having fine relationships with them.
@debbieflyger9805
@debbieflyger9805 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful information. Thank you. I will check out the books. Did you know your audio cuts out a lot as it goes on? Still very much appreciated.
@somemoresomewhere1262
@somemoresomewhere1262 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Hot Damned! I know a few people with these traits. And just reinforces the understanding... You just don't know, best to just do your best with people genuinely.
@mw2300
@mw2300 Жыл бұрын
Why are the medical schools teachers not covering current information about ADHD , females representation, and meds?
@brianc11388
@brianc11388 Жыл бұрын
You can remember your own birth but you can't remember what you had for breakfast
@bluemamba5317
@bluemamba5317 Жыл бұрын
I can. I always have the same thing for breakfast 😇
@rachelwalker3761
@rachelwalker3761 Жыл бұрын
I recently heard "small talk" compared to dogs sniffing butts in dog parks & it occurred to me that some ADHRs like myself assess people much faster than others (even if we* give people too much benefit of doubt) so that we find chit chat a waste of time and want to get to the more complex questions quicker. Also, we state our points as a short-cut to get to others' reciprocating in context, not that we* are not interested in others. Quite the reverse, my are keen to know "deeper" aspects asap. Also, as demonstrated here, we* tend to communicate with inconsistent density. We* tend to think that so much 'goes without saying', to us at least, and as we are often overly optimistic about the few we immediately trust to communicate with. That they will be optimistic too. ps. the empathy debate may be that poorly treated asd and add leaves little room for complex or consistent empathy complicated with memory/attention/permanence issues. On the other hand some Pw ASD can be judged as, or developed, into NPD bcs of frustration and motivation deficency
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
what is ADHR please?
@sensusmusic9343
@sensusmusic9343 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Webinar! Really useful for someone with severe ADD, and suspects Autism... A good friend of mine is Autistic and we are so alike... He even told me he thinks Im on the spectrum but Im quite social at times and thats confusing?
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
Look into it, thourghly:?)
@pattismith6958
@pattismith6958 Жыл бұрын
I’m both adhd and autistic and thought the same thing! I got diagnosed autistic 2 years ago at 41. There are many social autistics, and even some who are very good at it! A lady I followed on TikTok always thought she was the autism whisperer because she was able to help be the go between lady where she worked with engineers! Found out she was also autistic and just really good at gaming the social scene! Lol! I can be super social at times; I just don’t always do it right! I would look into not just the DSM symptoms but also what other autistics say about being autists. There’s so much more that clicked for me when I found other autistics with similar experiences.
@desertboot9755
@desertboot9755 Жыл бұрын
What about people who are so good at masking and hide to avoid people seeing their deficits?
@happydaysrcoming8792
@happydaysrcoming8792 Жыл бұрын
Wow I need to see Thomas Brown
@bexmac8136
@bexmac8136 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I am going to stop feeling like a major loser for taking Adderall in my 30’s! 😉 Medication has helped significantly, but requires enormous effort to maintain. (Monthly doctor visits, pharmacy stock, refills delayed, interfering work schedule and other logistical challenges.)
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
When a person can't count on getting their meds refilled, and having a job interferes with getting health treatment... it's a sign that society is sicker than you or I.
@XxXenosxX
@XxXenosxX Жыл бұрын
As someone with ASD and ADHD this is spot on….really weird listening to this
@MissMentats
@MissMentats Жыл бұрын
I can sometimes have very very good willpower,better than some of my family… just if iNEEED to do something, I will literally sit for Like 7 hours just sort of… stuck. Like I use my will power to not do some other more appealing, I don’t even let myself think about anything else, I focus just on one thing but just cannot force myself to do the thing. I don’t understand it
@vynedvyne59
@vynedvyne59 Жыл бұрын
Good on ADHD not grasping fully the ASD better resources for that side of it out there
@shawnrisley2404
@shawnrisley2404 Жыл бұрын
I intuited that my learning style took more time, but it was my normal, and I was working with people undergoing neurological rehab. As a staff, then clinical specialist occupational therapist. Wondered why compensatory strategies were such a help (!). Only when hormonal decreases affected mental stamina, overworking wasn't possible so I couldn't do the same workload, couldn't tune out distractions in medical environment, had to leave a job that used the best of my abilities. Only then did I question what was up, and the psychologist giving me the ?Conner's? attention test was a bit open-mouthed, saying "But you look normal." A few years ago, mid-60s, another psychologist who knew me well, when discharging me, told me I may be autistic. And I had good MDs. I guess social masking goes a long way to hide differences in neurology/cognition, and I went blindly on. No wonder that administrative work was scarily hard, due to decreased speed of processing and no street smarts. But it was an interesting run, as long as it lasted. I still get a charge when working on committees with a dedicated work group that listens to each other and develops ideas, valuing different input. Maybe better when one accepts they are an odd puzzle piece and does what they can, keeping an oar in, and not looking for praise. Lifelong learning is a real thing.
@gaelle4328
@gaelle4328 6 ай бұрын
Actually people with asd has equally good communication and social understanding with each other as normal varied people or better. And normalvaried people have the same problems reading people with autism as the other way around. We don’t have a disorder we are simple different.
@Alice_Walker
@Alice_Walker Жыл бұрын
I feel that while the presenter seems very genuine in wanting to help, some of his views are quite out of date. There's very good reasons aspergers is no longer used, that lack of empathy isn't necessarily a problem for people with autism, not addressing the differences in diagnosis of males and females etc.
@peterlawrence6815
@peterlawrence6815 10 ай бұрын
I have a weird ass memory. But the things i should and need to remember i cant as much as i try i stuggle with everything except speaking reading and writing. I dont take being able to do those things for granted.
@peterlawrence6815
@peterlawrence6815 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if when I was growing up if medicines would have helped me . I was never called lazy because teachers. Could see how hard I tried. I was gentle and placid and made and kept friends easterly . I was simple called learning problem or dumb. I also don't take my good friends for granted either
@peterlawrence6815
@peterlawrence6815 10 ай бұрын
Easily
@Kate-yb5ig
@Kate-yb5ig Жыл бұрын
Has anyone done a demographic view of ADHD/Autism Spectrum in each country?
@Mandychan93
@Mandychan93 3 ай бұрын
As a person diagnosed with ASD and ADHD I can certainly say that showing empathy is awfully hard! But the amount of emotions we are feeling under the surface is overwhelmingly hard to manage. My concern is how scientists analyse people with those characteristics may be somewhat wrong. Specially women.
@rawmotiongraphicsart6798
@rawmotiongraphicsart6798 Жыл бұрын
Thank You 😍
@karenford2937
@karenford2937 Жыл бұрын
Granddaughter, Daughter, Sister, Mum, Grandmother
@quinmccormack6283
@quinmccormack6283 Жыл бұрын
If you PTSD to this does make it a lot harder for the individual as adulta
@marywilsonvocalist2181
@marywilsonvocalist2181 Жыл бұрын
I have cptsd...but this makes me think !!...
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 11 ай бұрын
Very nice
@kayaelangel
@kayaelangel Жыл бұрын
16 minutes in and I realize I've listened to this already start to finish at least once already and I only remembered because of the erectile dysfunction line 💀
@The_Vanished
@The_Vanished Жыл бұрын
It’s all well and good that I’ve found out I’m responding to a stimulant well regarding focus but I’m still going to be in a skill deficit with interpersonal communication. I can do things besides talk to people
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
The stimulants have worked well for me but very problematic for sons.
@Rasheens-Story
@Rasheens-Story Жыл бұрын
Yep I have both
@quinmccormack6283
@quinmccormack6283 Жыл бұрын
Struggle to take or get myself to hospitals and appointments
@paulineleblanc6752
@paulineleblanc6752 Жыл бұрын
Wow this helps understand it little better
@loraharriman
@loraharriman Жыл бұрын
Would you have any good referrals from Canada 🇨🇦 in Winnipeg my daughter needs an assessment
@rachelwalker3761
@rachelwalker3761 Жыл бұрын
how can i judge if i have comparable empathy to others if i have empathy differences? ;D
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@kathryncurtis9983
@kathryncurtis9983 Жыл бұрын
Hello. How often is autism and adhd mistaken for schizoaffective disorder and do people with schizoaffective have compromised mri and ct scans. I have a coping of my mri and ct scan and it states in conclusion. 'NO INTRACTIONAL SUSPICIOUS ABNORMALITIES IDENTIFIED. I AM SUFFERING DUE TO SEVERE SIDE EFFECTS. can you have psychosis with adhd and autism. thank you
@ChaviChoffChop
@ChaviChoffChop Ай бұрын
I'm diagnosed with ADHD and in the past year or so I've been wondering if i actually also have ASD. I strongly relate to the folks who are diagnosed with both and describe their experience. Not as much as with either one of them alone. But the story about 12yo Sam sounds exactly like me. I don't understand why some people take it as offence when im trying to help, so i decided to stop doing it altogether and only continue it for those who i care about the most. I still have a lot of problems with my mom though who keeps forgetting that I'm so annoying to her because i care so much about her, not because I'm just toxic and like to hurt her. It sucks so much energy from me but i just can't let her slowly destroy her life and not do anything. I definitely need a professional advice on how to deal with this optimally.
@dakrontu
@dakrontu Жыл бұрын
At 17 min: Unable to do uninteresting things without an imminent threat. Yep. I recognise that. Strange, as I never thought of myself as having ADHD. Onward with the video...
@yaacovgarber9647
@yaacovgarber9647 Жыл бұрын
I have a 15 year old son with ADHD Aspergers. He is finally asking us the right questions and we will be having a talk with him soon about what it is and how it can be an advantage at times and not an advantage at other times along with tools to minimize the "not advantage" parts. Can some one recommend a book (or websites) appropriate for him to learn more about this part of himself? Note, he can speak and read English well, but it is not his first language.
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
Incourage him to understand, how it will help him to understand the problem.
@yaacovgarber9647
@yaacovgarber9647 Жыл бұрын
@@RichardAlsenz Hi. We had the conversation last night we put some positive spin on it emphasizing the character traits that may be useful as he gets older. And, what he can work on that may come more naturally to others. Do you know of a site where he can talk to other kids (teens) with the same issues?
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
@@yaacovgarber9647 No sorry, but keep up your conversations with him. Offer to help with any other problems he may encounter. Let him know other problems may arise and you are there for him:?)
@barbh1
@barbh1 Жыл бұрын
Not specifically about ADHD Aspergers, but interesting and maybe some good ideas, a book called The Highly Sensitive Child by Elaine N. Aron.
@georgeskatleenvaneylen-van4218
@georgeskatleenvaneylen-van4218 Жыл бұрын
I effed up my life in every way, from toddler to working age and now 52, diagnosed with ADHD en very likely some autism. Now I don't know if I am to blame for all problems (lazy, selfish, no work ethic, substance use etc ...) or if it has a reason for me being such a pain in the arse.
@barbarabrooks4747
@barbarabrooks4747 Жыл бұрын
Everyone wants to talk about people with ADHD and Asperger's in "bright" people. Unfortunately, many affected children are average or a little slow, especially ones with seizures. However, this population needs tailored curriculum and extra structure. Most parents don't want to admit their child is slow or average and want their child in a regular classroom where they are very inept socially, get bullied and often can't keep up with the other students. It would make more sense to teach them life skills, learn a trade at an early age and improve reading and comprehension. If parents could band together and open cooperative businesses such as bakeries or other service industries they think the community needs, then these students could work in a sheltered environment with profits going towards various employee benefits. Setting up cooperative shared housing with parent management would also be good. As a landlord of a boarding house and a retired pediatric nurse, I see how poorly these people function. They tend to be problem tenants and need reminders to clean up or be considerate of other residents. Often they lose jobs. I can't imagine most of these people thriving without guidance and supervision for the rest of their lives, although they can be productive at work with reminders and praise. I wonder how many if them are homeless or end up out of the workforce altogether.
@angelawilliamson6765
@angelawilliamson6765 Жыл бұрын
You're talking about something no one talks about, thank you for it & the good ideas you suggested, sadly these people fair badly living without support in today's Society 👍🏼
@GhostSamaritan
@GhostSamaritan Жыл бұрын
Then there's also the gifted in high school to struggling in college pipeline that many so-called "bright" people with these traits go through. I'm one of them. They should prepare us better for college, especially considering all the independent planning and discipline it requires.
@staceyhart9746
@staceyhart9746 Жыл бұрын
37:23 Why do you say “engaging in dramatic behavior”? Why is it about his behavior instead of his distress?
@Satch9341
@Satch9341 Жыл бұрын
i have both asperger and adhd can you hepl me
@tomjardine100
@tomjardine100 9 ай бұрын
Both ADHD and Autism are very similar conditions. Some symptoms are actually identical
@shelchicago8997
@shelchicago8997 10 ай бұрын
Would Eistein have been diagnosed with ADHD, autism, NPD, or bipolar?
@johnrainsman6650
@johnrainsman6650 Жыл бұрын
I have ASD, and I feel I've been judged and labeled weird before. I might do a social experiment on autism fact videos, saying something like, "People with autism are so weird." Just to test if people will do the right thing and confront me for saying something they _disagree_ with. But what do you guys think? Is it too risky, given that autistics might see and resent it?
@jennifers3828
@jennifers3828 Жыл бұрын
I’ve think your results will be skewed. Anyone can be a keyboard warrior, in person would be more telling.
@pattismith6958
@pattismith6958 Жыл бұрын
@@jennifers3828 that’s true (hadn’t thought of that)! I also think the responses will vary depending on the type of medium you use. Each social media site has its own demographics on who is more likely to use it.
@UnburiedTalents
@UnburiedTalents 3 ай бұрын
Remember to validate the ASD person's thoughts and feelings, BEFORE telling them how they can **reduce the chances** of negative interactions like the one of the boy who was attacked in the halls. Validate that those students were WRONG to attack him, as well as **responsible for their own feelings** of embarrassment about their test performance compared to the ASD student. Focusing only on what the ASD person can change, or what they should've intuited, leads to hypervigilance about every social interaction and what might be unintentionally conveyed.
@quinmccormack6283
@quinmccormack6283 Жыл бұрын
If which feel I do coz I have three of the life time disorders
@SpookyBur
@SpookyBur Жыл бұрын
I’m a little frustrated that he didn’t answer the question that’s in the title of the video… what’s the overlap what’s the difference?
@TimeMovie93150
@TimeMovie93150 Жыл бұрын
me too lol
@UnburiedTalents
@UnburiedTalents 3 ай бұрын
About the case study, Justin, at minute 36, it said nothing about dealing with his perfectionism (a form of black-and-white thinking), and his associated sensitivity to criticism. It just said meds and teachers' help got him A's and B's. Something's missing.
@brucemackinnon6707
@brucemackinnon6707 Жыл бұрын
Half of people with dyslexia also have ADHD.
@missfeliss3628
@missfeliss3628 5 ай бұрын
diet immensly changes brain chemistry, and so does exersize.... as much as many medications , and with no side effects and improving ur overall health... one can change their brain thru diet and exersize..
@CommandSuccess
@CommandSuccess 4 ай бұрын
not always.
@karladolman9664
@karladolman9664 4 ай бұрын
Situational variability in ADHD looks a lot like Special interest in ASD.
@quinmccormack6283
@quinmccormack6283 Жыл бұрын
I had seizures as well
@paulmeier3462
@paulmeier3462 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I have ADHD and my son has high-functioning autism. I really like this presenter but I still struggle with the idea that it's a 'disorder'. Maybe at the extremes it is, but in most people I think it's just neuro-diversity. Therefore, I'm not totally comfortable with the idea of medicating it to be 'normal'.
@anaalvensleben789
@anaalvensleben789 Жыл бұрын
It's just like he said at the beginning with the depression example. If it isn't causing the person problems, it cannot be considered a disorder.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
@@anaalvensleben789 If only that were so. Unfortunately as a kid, if your parents, teachers, other adults can't deal with your being atypical, you're labeled disordered even if you're happy as a clam. Lots of people get medicated as kids, and upon reaching majority throw their meds in the trash. Nobody who's truly being helped by their meds is going to do that.
@anaalvensleben789
@anaalvensleben789 Жыл бұрын
@@annamyob4624 Yes? But that's an effect of kids not having legal agency so the definition of 'you' is going to be replaced with 'your parents' for as long as you are required to have a guardian. If you broke your arm as a kid, it doesn't matter how unhappy you are, your guardian needs to be present or given permission written or over the phone to the hospital to treat you as well.
@timothyping3730
@timothyping3730 Жыл бұрын
I just figured it out I don't go to doctor's at all but my mom and siblings tested teased me something not Right my self diagnose is autism and dyslexia words not numbers and I can't deal with it I have no one else to help me or give a perpose to my life I need help i am not good on my own please 62 I now realized I have been this way and hard to cope by my self Thay didn't have diagnose when I was child just work hard at my job and support myself and family I just not use to do for only my self and I I'm going cope it
@girlinterrupted9145
@girlinterrupted9145 9 күн бұрын
Like much of psychology- I’d like to know if much of these analyses are based on hypotheticals rather than proven science. Are we still making educated guesses or have some successful biological studies been done on the brain and not simply observations? I feel like so many of these people have been test subjects and rather than just leaving it to be managed through medications for ( ADHD) but also looking at diet such as additives, missing nutrients, or exposure to environmental pollutants or other types of antigens.
@idadamgaard4351
@idadamgaard4351 Жыл бұрын
How are those with average /above average intelligence a sub group? Most autistics I know have that, I think the true issue is under diagnosis of autistics with average/above average intelligence.
@happydaysrcoming8792
@happydaysrcoming8792 Жыл бұрын
My IQ is over 70. I have ADHD but back in 83 my mother was told it was A.D.D with specific learning disabilities what he was seeing was Autism also. Now I have a Therapist that sees that I’m on the Autism Spectrum. I’m 52. Haven’t seen many doctors or therapists till now.
@KEVIN-84
@KEVIN-84 Жыл бұрын
A therapist can’t diagnose for adhd nor for ASD.
@zainmushtaq4347
@zainmushtaq4347 8 ай бұрын
Mr. Brown, you did a great job explaining ADHD and the core symptoms and issues, but you simply gloss over _what_ Aspergers is, and everytime it was asked how to detect it you simply diverted to an overall evaluation being necessary. If there's no clear distinction between someone with ADHD and someone with ADHD _and_ Aspergers, how does one know whether ADHD isn't _causing_ the social issues? You even mentioned social anxiety being highly comorbid with ADHD, and that muddies the water even more. How do you tell when hyperfocus on a personal interest is a special interest? or when not understanding conversations, non-verbal clues and metaphors isn't simply focus and inattention issues (executive dysfunction)? or when friendship development is caused by lack of interest / low stimulation or if it's bc of genuinely not understanding on a biological level? or if not relating to peers simply isn't the delayed biological development of the ADHD brains? I'm impressed by your knowledge, presentation and empathetic approach to diagnosing people (srsly, you really wish to _help_ people, and I wish more psychologists thought like that!), and your examples are appreciated and your books as well (haven't read any, too expensive, unfortunately 😅), but unfortunately you didn't do a convincing job with the Asperger's side of things in this lecture, and your ADHD expertise is what shone through. Not trying to dismiss you in any way, but unfortunately I didn't become any wiser sitting through the whole video (with several rewinds 😅) on the overlap of traits betweens ADHD and Autism in smart kids. Maybe there's a better answer in your book, but I can't afford it rn :/ Great presentation nonetheless 😇👍
@jojozepofthejungle2655
@jojozepofthejungle2655 5 ай бұрын
My life is madness. I can't remember anything. I rush around all day and might have to return to the supermarket twice. I live by doing the chores i see, as i see them. Everything is out on the benches and tables because its gone if i put it away. I always have a sense of urgency ;have i forgotten something? I can't eat very much as i forget to do it or run out of time to cook. I forget to drink water. Im dead on my feet all the time except at night. Im really lonely because I need to talk to intelligent people but have difficulty remembering names of the subjects im referring to like authors and artists. The thing that sets me off into a rage is questions being fired at me one after the other and borderlines that never stop talking to hear a word of wisdom. I read people very well, so well, I see a lot of ugly things in them and it makes it hard to love them. I actually hate the human race as a whole. I see things amiss amongst 200 people who didn't see anything. I am impatient with people who don't see what's in front of them. Yet I get along with all other people who have autism and adhd perfectly.
@jennifers3828
@jennifers3828 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the student “Justin “ has rejection sensitive dysphoria. What is the best therapy for that? Is medication the only way or is there another therapy that may help?
@staceyhart9746
@staceyhart9746 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? When he’s crying & having a hard time, that distress is the problem. His classmates thinking that he is weird because he cries etc. when he is in distress is THEIR empathy problem.
@RichardAlsenz
@RichardAlsenz Жыл бұрын
@@staceyhart9746 Some of us are very sensitive, it is really a benefit. Just help him understand that:?)
@c.a.greene8395
@c.a.greene8395 Жыл бұрын
As a child I was put into jail for running away from home...I was put into segregation and they sent a shrink into see me... He gave me a bunch of IQ tests, shape association tests, university entrance tests, competency tests and so on... He went away, then came back with 2 more Dr... These Dr tested me with their own tests...then they went away and came back with 12 Dr in total.... These Dr gave me even more tests!! Some they made themselves...I got every test given me 100% right.... These Dr told me I had the highest IQ they had ever seen or heard of...they said my IQ put mensa to shame.... I was told I have adhd...I have had it my entire life...my brain never sleeps...everything I have ever done I do well without trying... I'm 51, and I sleep less than 4 hrs maybe 3 times a week. As a child I didn't sleep either, not even as a baby...my oldest son is the same...but he is also autistic. I can sit in a full restaurant keep up with my own table, and follow along with every other table around me, I also read lips, my brain is happiest when it's busy. I remember almost everything word for word that I have written down or read twice, my brain is overloaded with facts...people think I am too smart, too talkative, and I miss nothing... I would have made a good lawyer, lol My Dr offers me speed to help me sleep, but I would rather not, especially since it can be habit forming. Have you any ideas for quieting the mind?
@c.a.greene8395
@c.a.greene8395 Жыл бұрын
@Lucas Milito my son may be autistic, but he has a college degree... We relocated to Victoria bc from ont during the 90's, so my son could attend the queen Alexander school for children with autism. They teach a method called creeping, which rewires the brain... My son speaks, reads, plays d&d with me, he is 32 and married...
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 Жыл бұрын
@@c.a.greene8395 Lucas up there is spamming that herbal message on every video about Autism
@c.a.greene8395
@c.a.greene8395 Жыл бұрын
@@recoveringsoul755 someone should report him then...
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 Жыл бұрын
@@c.a.greene8395 anyone can report him if they like. I'm not sure what good that does
@rdklkje13
@rdklkje13 Жыл бұрын
Re quieting the mind: meditation can work even with busy minds, esp mindfulness and mantra meditation cos they give your brain something to do. Most important for this is to know that meditation is not about having no distracting thoughts, it’s about relating differently to the many thoughts you will definitely keep having. I also found simple eternal runner games to be helpful for approaching some level of flow state at times. Gardening if that’s an option (and not a disliked chore) for you. Five rhythms dancing with a good teacher. Lots of things, really, it’ll just be harder for you and require more patience with and compassion for yourself than is the case for most people. But it’s not at all impossible. As noted in this talk, all of this will work better if you decide to try medication too, but even if you really want to stay off meds completely they’re worth a sustained try - ‘sustained’ being the key word here 🙃
@janklaas6885
@janklaas6885 Жыл бұрын
57:17
@Investigativebean
@Investigativebean Жыл бұрын
Stimulants saved my life.
@bluemamba5317
@bluemamba5317 Жыл бұрын
Wanna tell us your story about it?
@UnburiedTalents
@UnburiedTalents 3 ай бұрын
The kid mentioned at minute 56, who was attacked by a group in the halls for sharing that he'd found a quiz to be easier than his classmates found it, was simply sharing a different opinion. He lives in a world that doesn't exist, but SHOULD, where everyone is free to share their own thoughts and opinions. He's being told by neurotypicals, "Can't you see how that MAKES others feel?" but the neurotypical students are JUST AS BLIND. They used their NT knowledge of how to administer emotional pain when they deliberately attacked him! You can't ONLY work with the ASD person and ignore the social education needs of the NT's around them.
@debbiedebbie9473
@debbiedebbie9473 Жыл бұрын
7:00
@carawilliams4958
@carawilliams4958 Жыл бұрын
I was with you till....medication...
@missfeliss3628
@missfeliss3628 5 ай бұрын
i think things like autism and adhd should require brain scans to get a diagnosis.... not just talk evaluation or even written diagnostic tests
@CommandSuccess
@CommandSuccess 4 ай бұрын
There are computerized tests that are valid and reliable that test for ADHD, the TOVA and Conners being the ones I used for diagnosis in addition to written histories and extensive verbal assessment. One assessment alone doesn't give you enough information but if there are 3 or more indicators present a more accurate diagnosis is highly probable.
@nicolasgalipeau3632
@nicolasgalipeau3632 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the empathy part is very outdated
@saminova1998
@saminova1998 Жыл бұрын
Great information. Respectful specialists. But how to use it? I am concern: how to help children ? What should we expect from the future? The USA government provides a lot of useless program + bureaucracy takes a long times to get something, but there is no guaranty that it would be helpful. SSI provides benefits which cannot covered even rent. Public school system is absolutely not ready for these children. Private schools most of the time are not affordable and not matching to individual needs off the special needs students.. Parents with children are in between all of this nonsense. Majority of families has only one parent, who is struggling not only luck of REAL help, but financially because caring the children are full time job: appointments with doctors, schools , services government offices ( SSI, welfare, etc). It means, the big group of ADHD , ADD kids will not find a job or frequently lose the them in the future. They automatically goes to the group of low income people or fulfill the group of crimes. Not everyone, but most of them. Parents with high income could provide high level life style for special needs children, but I am pretty sure there is a small group parents. What about others? These kids could be very talantive and efficient for society, if provide to them real programs on the federal level to develop their strong abilities and teach them how to get control themselves. There is a big disconnection between doctors, educators and government institutions. About legal part, forget it. ADHD kids doesn't have a legal protection. After 18 years old, if parents did not get legal custody for some reasons, these kids and surrenders under a big danger. The USA law doesn't allow to provide psychiatric help without patients permission. This is work for any other Patients, except who has ADD, ADHD and other mental difference. So medical professionals, families are missing the opportunity when the problem could be catch up in early stage and avoid crimes or death. Most of the school shooters has ADHD or ADD, or combination of a lot of comorbid mental conditions. The media is hiding these facts to avoid actions of hate against of people who has ADHD and other disorders. In reality, special needs kids are hostages of the system. I feel big sorry about innocent victims. But also I feel big sorry for special needs kids because they do not get proper help. Did you hear about : who are were school shooters? Based on media: some of them were on medication, some were just left without any monitoring with ADHD , ADD AND OTHER . We don't have doctors, who had specialty in this area, although some doctors try to help kids based on information they got from different sources plus experience. Interesting fact : to get evaluation in some states; you have to pay thousands dollars to get information, which help you to get some services , which not probably works for you kids in short term. THERE ARE DIFFERENT TESTS, WHICH ARE DEVELOPED BASED ON CURTAIN CRITERIAs, WHICH NOT NECESSARY APPLY TO YOUR CHILD. I have a lot of questions to these tests. For long term, this is a big challenge for families and society. Treatments are also under questions.Some of the treatment represents drugs, like stimulants. As a result is sudden heart attack or drug addiction in the future. FOOD ?!!!! The most a big question. these kids are very sensitive to carbs, sugar. It would be great , if any research program take care of these questions. Scientists:( Phisycs, chemistrist, biologists, genetics) if anyone researched the parts why these kids could have a high level unmanageable energy and different structure if their brains? How screen time, computers, games are changing children's attention and behaviour? I don't get if the government even understand how dangerous leave smart but different children without real help. Do you think anybody care about it?
@quinmccormack6283
@quinmccormack6283 Жыл бұрын
Noises really don't help me
@eaglewindspirit
@eaglewindspirit Жыл бұрын
This is so funny! Who would want to focus on something not interesting or of no consequences, this is normal behavior. Of course, if someone stays up until 3:00 PM they will have focus issues and try to keep themselves self-stimulated by shaking knee's and have issues with classroom or work duty function. Nothing unique about his theories except he creates areas of challenges every human being has experienced in some area of their life to some degree or another. ADHD is to a vague to be called a disorder. Lack of emotional, and physical structure, along with a stressful childhood affects Childs ability for brain development. I think it is a consequence of poor childhood structure in many cases.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
What a lovely textbook example of failing to comprehend the issue. The same dismissiveness and patronizing that we had to put up with from the psychiatric profession for so many years. Now, the "professionals" are beginning to listen to us...but we can rest assured that there are still plenty of self-appointed experts to tell us it's just that we're not motivated or self-disciplined enough. How nice of you to reach out to help.
@eaglewindspirit
@eaglewindspirit Жыл бұрын
@@annamyob4624 No, there is good evidence that childhood trauma affect brain development, which affects attention span and learning. I know first hand, and you can disagree all you like and try to discredit my experiences.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
@@eaglewindspirit Absolutely, childhood trauma affects brain development. I was referring to "Who would want to focus on something not interesting or of no consequences, this is normal behavior." ADHD and autism are not "normal behavior," and the attention problems we face are not merely about the topic being uninteresting or unrewarding. We struggle with focus even when we are highly motivated and keenly interested.
@annamyob4624
@annamyob4624 Жыл бұрын
@@eaglewindspirit Also, i see that I was snarkier in my original comment that I would like. Sorry about that.
@Tycy2014
@Tycy2014 Жыл бұрын
Wtf are they righting about me... I did the same thing as Justin.
@psykoaddict
@psykoaddict Жыл бұрын
For a disease created by 🤔
@joyreinhardt7621
@joyreinhardt7621 11 ай бұрын
Funny, to come on this vides. Just listened to Dr. Jordan Peterson, and it is opinion, tht ADHD is 'false' ! ( Don't remember his exact words ) !
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