Adjustable Hosel Drivers - How they change Loft, Lie, and Face Angle

Adjustable hosel golf clubs, how do they work? We look at Adjustable Hosel Drivers and explore how they change loft, lie angle, and face angle. This same explanation works for adjustable fairway metals, and hybrid golf clubs as well. Why does a golf club's face open or close when we adjust the hosel adapter? We answer that question. If you've ever been confused by the settings on an adjustable hosel golf club, watch this video.

[@spakuloid]

The best video on loft and lie with adjustable drivers ever. Thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. If you haven't, please subscribe as we have a lot of good stuff upcoming.

[@larryjohnson8168]

Damn never knew this

[@alldayrays7110]

@@EFGMC clear and accurate explanation on adjustable hosel settings. Thanks for clearing that up. A couple of questions though. 1. Would lie angle 📐 change have an effect on the center of gravity when making these adjustments? 2a. What is the exact degree increment change in lie angle +/- from Neutral Standard? 2b. While negligible, would it be have an effect on the club head, maybe the closure rate or feel?

[@EFGMC]

@@alldayrays7110 1. Yes I am sure it has some small change but honestly not enough to worry about. I think the CG change from increase/decrease of loft would be far more influential yet still too small for most people to worry about. 2.The lie angle change will depend on the club type and what the adapter is set at; 1,1.5, 2 degrees. Taylormade for example has a chart that shows the exact lies, lofts, and face angles with each setting. 2b. I have heard some people say the flattest or most upright lie can influence some golfers closure, but there is no rule for it I would say. Depends on the golfer.

[@bobpegram8042]

Agreed. This is the best explanation of adjustable hosels and their effects I have ever seen on KZbin.

[@tarpot01]

Have spent ages looking for an explanation of how an adjustable driver works but now I've found it - a superb video explaining in simple terms the impact of changing the settings on the hosel. The use of a clock face to illustrate the relationship between the club head and the shaft was particularly good. Thanks and best wishes

[@rufussthoo4083]

The revelation for me was the last part about the relationship between the contact and balance points and the 2nd assumption. Thanks for putting all the pieces together. 👍

[@hbyrdut]

I've had customers argue that lowering the loft closed the face and increasing the loft opened the face. The clip where you showed the club falling closed when you increase the loft and falling open when you decreased the loft is a great example I can show my customers. Thank you!

[@coreyhr]

It’s straight up criminal how under appreciated your channel is. I’ve never seen a collection of better videos for at home club builders to learn from. Please continue to make content and grow the channel. You’re videos are very much appreciated by us that like to tinker on our gear at home. I taught myself a couple years ago to start doing my own club work and never looked back. Would have been a huge help to have had your channel as a resource. Keep up the great work.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the very kind comment. Channel is slowly growing and I do nothing to promote it other than put out videos so we will just see where it goes.

[@mikepxg6406]

yes youtube should be arrested.

[@Charlez23]

The best video on KZbin regarding this topic.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Glad it was helpful.

[@boomersooners286]

@Rey Adan sounds like your a real douchebag

[@odonski9611]

This guy definitely has a high degree in some areas of science. He knows exactly how to properly preface an explanation

[@EFGMC]

I will take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.

[@odonski9611]

@@EFGMC I'm saying you're clearly very intelligent, also thank you for explaining this to me

[@TheAtromix97]

I looooove when KZbinrs are able to break things down into such a simple description. Made understanding adjustments on my driver so much easier! Ive been nervous to try it out

[@tonyvitiello9897]

Finally a video explaining this clearly. I never understood how changing the loft would change the face angle if you square the club face to the target. It doesn’t.

[@quadrapayunir]

Got to say that is the best description on KZbin…well done. The visual of the clock face really help me grasp what the adjustments were doing!!! I stopped the video and immediately liked and subscribed

[@user-ut3mq3ce7y]

One of the best explanations of the adjustable sleeve. I come from an era of flat sole woods with different bore angles. The rounded soles of drivers make this possible. Slightly less applicable to fairway woods and hybrids that don't have much camber. Tom Wishon was one of the most outspoken in this topic.

[@austinhampton7999]

This guy is being super slept on. He has a lot of knowledge and his explanation is through and very well presented.

[@simonschad9637]

Finally, a video that not only explains how it works, but also demonstrates the mechanics. Thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Glad it helped.

[@sactrained527]

One super video, I have played golf for over 45 years. This year I bought my first adjustable driver a Cobra F9 and I wondered how all the numbers worked. With watching this video it all makes sense and you explained it better than anyone including the manufactures people. Great Job...

[@EFGMC]

Awesome. Glad to hear it helped make sense of those hosels. When you can actually see the changes being made, I find it simplifies things greatly.

[@elliotl7021]

After ten searches - I found this excellent explanation of HOW these adapters work. Thanks!

[@nickcassidy693]

The clock face explanation is such a cool way to explain it. Great and simple video to understand. Great work

[@steveminla]

THAT was AWESOME! I never truly understood HOW the adjustments worked until watching your video. Super clear presentation and easy to understand. Thanks!

[@mattholmes9657]

Great video. I do a lot of club fittings and hearing how you explains how the hosel works is exactly how it should be explained to the average golfer. Thank you!

[@darrenwake6537]

FINALLY!!! Someone who was able to explain how the adjustable hosel works. I thought this was either one of the greatest golf mysteries or product gimmicks of all time. I have spoken with many golf product people and no one could explain how the adjustable piece made a difference in the driver head. You finally explained ( and showed) in a way an engineer can understand the mechanics. Thank you. The missing piece that no one knew to mention is that the adjustable component is essentially bent at a slight angle. I guess the answer was just too simple for others to understand or try to explain. The angle is of course so small I could not see it with my naked eye nor had I thought it through on my own without visual evidence. Also you have a great channel. I am getting ready to rebuild my 7 iron thanks to you. Thanks again.

[@mariokl6]

Great Video!! Thank you so much, I watched 5 videos and none of them explain it as well as you do. Keep up the good work!!

[@EFGMC]

Thank you for the comment. Glad it was helpful.

[@GassyWookie]

I’ve always heard that open/closed commentary and on my head I didn’t think it made sense because of how we keep the face square to the target. Thanks for breaking it down so well and explaining where that thought process comes from.

[@EFGMC]

Glad it helped.

[@MrTuffCookies]

Thank you so much for this video. I couldn't believe how many videos I'd tried watching that basically just said "ehhh well ya rotate it and it changes loft and lie, you figure it out..." lol like why even make that video?! Thank you for actually explaining. The critical component that I think is easy to miss and that causes the confusion is that the shaft and hosel are not parallel. I was wondering how the hell essentially just twisting the shaft would change the way the club hits, assuming that it was just rotating on an axis down the center of the shaft. But knowing that it shifts the angle of the shaft in relation to the head makes SO much more sense haha.

[@guitarbilly3593]

Excellent video - the only one on youtube to actually explain clearly how and why this works! Thank for posting

[@EFGMC]

Appreciate it. Thanks for the support!

[@TheLastBabyBoomer]

Wow!!! What an exclamation. Mizuno owes you a check. I just picked up the ST190 and could not understand this adjustable hosel thing until I found this video. Great work. Thank you and subscribed. Cheers.

[@pmthomas7144]

Great explanation! Very helpful and probably should be referenced by every company making this type of club.

[@cgg0nz0l]

Excellent video!! I've always been confused as to the adjustments to the driver head vs how it naturally lies at setup. You're point on the two key assumptions the manufacturer makes clears it all up. Many Thanks.

[@vANvTO]

This is very well explained. Thanks for stating the 2 assumptions, without these, I would've thought my adapter was installed incorrectly since the lower lofted switch actually opened up the face.

[@gmarch4618]

Very helpful. Makes so much more sense. I appreciate the assumptions of 1 and 2. This helps define the basis of all other alignments.

[@golfsh00ter]

What a terrific video explaining something that has confused me for years. Thank you for taking the time to do this, I am now smarter than I was 10 minutes ago 😊

[@jeffgunther682]

This guy Makes A lot of Very Good Scenes.... He would be a Great Neighbor.

[@mikepxg6406]

are your neighbours stupid then.

[@strikurjim]

Thank you for this video. I always suspected some changes that were inevitable with altering a club so much. I personally think that buy a club in a loft you can use right away and have it adjustable to the point where it’s still good when your at your best game. +/- 1 degree of loft. Also, weighting more then adjustments for Fade/Draw.

[@curtisleefarmer]

Finally a great explanation of how this works! Thank you so much for this great, informative video. Well done!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@jatimmonsjr]

Wow. Tough subject and you gave a crystal clear explanation. You must have rehearsed because you moved right along without a lot of hemming and hawing. Excellent job. Thanks.

[@gainbear8853]

Straight up. This was incredibly well done.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks.

[@thomasfurgal3039]

Excellent explanation! I just got my first adjustable hosel driver and now I know just what I'm doing while adjusting it. Thank you.

[@jtax24]

Great explanation, thank you! I just picked up my first adjustable hosel driver today and will now have a perfect understanding for when I can get to the range and dial this thing in. The club manufacturer (Tour Edge) provides a loft and lie angle setting chart on their website, but no explanation of the geometry relationships. You did that simply, thanks again!

[@lobaker1]

Thank you. I bought a new Callaway Rogue Driver. I couldn't hit it at all. Topping it every time and miss hitting it. After an hour of frustration, I changed the hosel +2 degrees. I hit the ball perfectly fine after that. Its insane that it was the difference. It was an inch longer than my previous driver but it blew my mind that minor of a change allowed me to stop topping the ball and it going 50 yards vs 250.

[@outraggedoutdoors]

As if golf wasn't already complicated, I stumbled upon your video lol great info man

[@okolekahuna3862]

That was a great 'clock' demonstration.

[@frogfoot198]

Finally an honest video on how the adjustable shaft works on the golf club. Thanks.

[@gavinclancy1475]

Brilliant, thanks for helping me finally understand the physics/mechanism behind adjustable loft and its relationships with Lie/Face angle.

[@shawnheffernan5968]

Great explanation. I know alot of especially beginning players that look at the markings on their grip to check if the club is square to target. This presentation shows that you must always use the club face for alignment. Good job.

[@shotsavior1236]

A++. Your explanation surpasses every other due to your exceptional visuals. I thought I knew the subject well, but I gained a lot of additional knowledge. Great job.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks for the support.

[@tucaz65]

One of the best videos I’ve seen from the perspective of physics and club engineering. Great comparison shots!

[@michaelwhitfield4230]

Very thorough and insightful. Thank you for making the complicated understanding with clarity. Awesome channel!

[@johnfeeney4636]

Good explanation. I have a Ping driver and even the Ping website doesn't give a detailed explanation, just a chart. The 2nd assumption is critical in order to just be dealing with a change in loft and not opening or closing the face. Very well explained.

[@scottjohnston1028]

This is a great video that explains how the adjustable hosel adapter affects the loft and lie. I think for those that are still having difficulty understanding this you have to think about the center of the clock as being the normal grip position of the individual golfer (of a RH golfer in these examples) when holding club for the shot (A.K.A rule #1). At 5:12 in the video when the clock face is shown and the grip is rotated around the clock, in your mind, visualize the grip being moved to the center of the clock as the final position of the shaft when the golfer holds the club and then how the head itself moves as a result. For example, when the hosel is inserted so that the grip is at the 6 o'clock position on the clock, when the golfer then holds the club, the golfer naturally positions the grip into the center of their clock and the head of the club as a result is rotated forward thus reducing the lie. If the hosel is inserted so the grip end is in the 9 o'clock position, the golfer again puts the grip into the center of their clock which results in the club head to rotate slightly to the right which increases the loft. The lie angle is also slightly higher than it would be if the hosel was at neutral so the net result is a slight opening of the club. If the hosel is inserted at the 12 o'clock position, when the golfer holds the grip in the center of the clock, it raises the lie due to the club grip moving downward from 12 o'clock to center. At 3 o'clock the grip moves from 3 o'clock to the center of the clock thus resulting in the club head rotating slightly to the left which lowers the loft. The lie is its lowest when the hosel is inserted for the 6 o'clock position and the highest at the 12 o'clock position. The lie then always increases when the hosel is changed from the neutral position. The loft is the same at both 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock grip positions and max loft is at 9 o'clock grip position and minimum loft is at the 3 o'clock position. This is all taking into consideration when the grip end is centered in that clock which is what happens due to rule #1 and when the club face is squared to the target due to rule #2. Always think of that grip moving back into its center of clock position as the "final adjustment"

[@benjamingonzales7051]

This explains a lot. I go weeks hitting driver great. And then my dumb ass starts thinking ( always happens ) maybe I can get more out of my driver if I change the loft now. Up or down. 🤦🏻‍♂️ thanks for the explanation. I’ll leave my driver alone from here on out. This video was awesome.

[@lilyannschneiderracewagner936]

Fascinating! Thank you so much for this video. It was very educational, thorough, and comprehensive. Keep up the great work!

[@eliashaller4255]

WOW! First time (after over 30 years) I actually understand the adjustable driver! Thanks so much for making that video! Great explanation! Much appreciated!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped.

[@kboy19831983]

Awesome explanation & something Tom Wishon has tried to get across for years. You can't change both loft & face angle, it's one or the other.

[@joey5picks]

Tom Wishon's video on adjustable drivers kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5uYfIKhZ9SLi5I

[@jjh00]

Now i finally understand why changing loft opens and closes the face. Thank you!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching.

[@paulanderson1687]

Spent hours watching so-called expert golfers hitting balls into screens and blathering incoherently about adjustable hosels with no explanation of how or why. Finally I found this video which is exactly what I needed to understand how to adjust my Mizuno CLK. THANK YOU!! Extremely helpful and informative video.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it cleared it up.

[@richgresham3382]

This made a lot of sense to me. Thank you for the information.

[@daviscai]

such a great video. watched many videos on youtube trying to understand the logic behind adjustable hosel and none of them made it clear until this one.

[@EFGMC]

Thank you. When you can actually see what is happening it all makes sense. If you haven't subscribed, please consider it as we will have more videos like this up coming.

[@koreycowan1976]

Awesome! THIS IS THE FIRST OF 10 VIDEOS THAT FINALLY EXPLAINS IT TO WHERE I UNDERSTAND IT... because he actually uses visuals.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it cleared up the mechanics of it.

[@stevedimattei321]

The best explanation I've found on KZbin! Thank you AJ

[@calvinkang1224]

Thanks for your time for explaining this, I don't think I have ever seen any other video about behind scene mechanism. Brilliant!

[@thebedroomguitarist7100]

Fantastic explanation! I was afraid to adjust my driver down as I was told it would open the face but I feel pretty confident after watching this that if my club face is aimed square I won't be slicing. Thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Correct. And even if you did see a slice, you can always just go back to the original settings, no harm done.

[@niallnoonan7494]

5 Stars for your great vids, glad I found your channel as a hobby club maker I find them really great. This vid on adjustable hosel,s is exceptional and how you explain the information is perfect. Hope you keep up the great work.

[@EFGMC]

Thank you for the support!

[@LanceCampeau]

Fantastic video... clearly, its tough subject to explain easily... but I now fully understand the principal and function of the adjustable hosel. Thank you!

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

[@lacabala31]

That video needed to be made. Thanks!!!

[@donaldrobinson4029]

I have searched for an explanation on the topic of adjustable hosels. This is perfect and concise.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful.

[@davebragg7722]

Indeed, the best explanation of adjustable driver I have ever heard. Should be a required video at all golf shops. Thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks, I appreciate the comment.

[@dogbombballet]

OMG! Your tone and instruction is great. I'm awaiting my new Cleveland adjustment tool to make some of these changes. Golf is Fun, Again! Thank you.

[@ddattyrom]

WOOOOW! That was absolutely clear. This was probably the 10th video I watched about adjustable driver/wood lofts but this has the most clarity. As an adult beginner, this is very helpful. Thanks very much! Now subscribed to your channel.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching and subscribing. Glad it cleared things up a bit.

[@TheJkatz34]

Recently bought a cobra F8 and it is my first adjustable driver. I had no idea how the adjustments worked or what they did. This video cleared that up! Great video, thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Happy it helped. Enjoy the new stick!

[@jimmybass375]

Most clear and concise explanation I've seen on the topic.

[@hungjy]

That's how I thought it works but it's nice to have someone confirm it for me. I have seen lots of videos and read lots of articles on this topic but like you said they all just repeat what the manufacturer instructions say and tell you how to use the adjustable hosel without explaining the actual theory behind it. Great video!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Happy you enjoyed it.

[@adamkelly479]

Thank you that is really helpful. I couldn't find this information anywhere. I thought there was something wrong with my driver as I had to really force myself to open the face. I've gone back to the standard loft now.

[@BenGibsSr]

I was being fitted for a driver. The ideal "loft" was between the two options of 7.5 and 9.5 heads. I needed 8.25 and when we measured results, adjusting up from 7.5 worked better for me that adjusting down from the higher club. Your video shows why. Head/Default Loft, shaft, then adjustments... It take a while but is worth it.

[@btexpress53]

Awesome explanation! I'll probably watch this video 10 times. Thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching.

[@johnellis7658]

Fantastic explanation. A lot of shops that sell these don't really understand how they work. Thanks for making it clear.

[@EFGMC]

No problem. Glad it was helpful.

[@alminor8574]

Just watched your video and it makes so much sense as to how the adapters work!!! I have read the manufacturers instructions but I never related it to the shaft instead of the head. Great job!!!!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the support! Glad it cleared things up.

[@rccarton]

Great video! Always used my adjustable driver without even knowing what I was doing, but that is fixed now! Thanks a lot!

[@EFGMC]

Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@garygarcia9045]

Learned some crucial information today with your video! I have a much clearer idea of how loft and face angle work together now! Thank you! Suscribed.

[@jeffplomer9492]

Best explanation I've ever found on how adjustable hosel works! Great job

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it helped.

[@mjes51]

Very well done!! Thanks for taking the time to explain this.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Stay tuned for more good stuff upcoming!

[@jhlaster]

Answered every question I've ever had about how this works. Thank you!

[@mickh166]

i know i am repeating what has already been said but this is by far the best informational video on this subject that i have found. very easy and simple to understand .thank you.

[@EFGMC]

Sorry I never saw this post til now. Thanks for the kind review.

[@VirtualAdam]

Best explanation I’ve seen. Great reference video, thanks for creating this masterpiece! ⛳️

[@luckydog-287]

Well said. This is a masterpiece!

[@MrCalvo90]

I have just found your channel and boy I am glad I did. I was looking for information like in this video. Tom Wishon tried to explain the same thing but this explanation is way better and easier to understand. Huge thumbs up

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. The Wishon video gets a bit too infomercially for my liking. I think the clock face reference really simplifies everything. Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@jacquestaulard3088]

Your vids are so well done! You explain things so clearly that I wonder at it. Wishon also has great info, but his explanations require several viewings, along with technical lingo. thank you thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching and for the support!

[@stephendibari5010]

Great content! Simply explains this topic.

[@gregcarnall9097]

Great video and really added clarity to how it all works, made perfect sense.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching!

[@jkeith5849]

Your videos are fantastic. Could not get my head around why an adjustable hybrid I was being fitted for seemed to want to fall open at address. Love the detail

[@AlexLiSince1983]

I'm also a club builder and I argue this point with my fitters all the time: the setting does not change loft AND face angle; the setting changes loft OR face angle (depending on how the user holds/delivers the club). For example, Taylormade's chart says that in the "LOWER" setting, the loft is -2 degrees AND the face is 4 degrees open. According to Assumption No. 2, the golfer is pointing the face at the target. If the face is pointed at the target, then how can it be open? I use the same Golf Instruments M-310 gauge and I've measured pretty much every settings from every OEM. The loft is always accurate to what the vendor says it does...WHEN THE FACE IS SQUARE. However, if I take the Taylormade LOWER setting and open the face 4 degrees, then the loft reads standard loft again. That's why some people argue that you're just changing face angle (and not loft). I say you're doing one or the other, depending on the golfer.

[@flyfishaholic]

Hi Alexander. I just watched a video on the taylormade loft/lie and I was confused. You answered my question! Watching that video I was so confused because of assumption number two on this video. If the club face is facing the target, only loft would be changed right? Therefore it should not cause a draw/fade bias, is that correct?

[@AlexLiSince1983]

@@flyfishaholic hi! The other variable not mentioned is club path. 0° face with 3°i-o is a draw; 0° face with 3°o-i is a fade; 0° face with 0° path is straight. My advice is to try neutral, highest loft, the lowest, and upright to see which quadrant is closest to your desired ball flight.

[@patrickbelanger3116]

When going +1.5 loft to keep pointing at the target do you have to move the ball position further ahead of your feet ?

[@CrispyGFX]

This is big knowledge. Thanks.

[@nikopugs]

Does it matter how you orient the adapter when installing?

[@MM-zb9kc]

Great explanation. Also great visualization to show how it does it. I never knew that the hosel had that room when you rotate the shaft.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the support.

[@rickoh7578]

You're right it's a complicated subject and you did a great job covering it. Thanks.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching!

[@bernard0camp0s]

I’ve always wondered about all of these questions and adjustable loft never made sense to me before this. Much appreciated!!

[@EFGMC]

Glad it was helpful.

[@alanbolla8443]

Fantastic illustration with the clock!!! It all makes sense now 👏

[@EFGMC]

Glad it cleared things up!

[@EverybodyEditsHacks]

WOW thank you so much for clearing that up I had no idea the hosel was off set a bit from the shaft. I’ve been opening an closing the face to try to adjust but this make so much more sense!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Club companies never explain any of this so there's plenty of confusion out there.

[@wookim221]

This video is sooo good!! I feel like an expert now, thank you for your hard work.

[@dallasportland6765]

Great explanation! Best I’ve seen. I finally understand them😊.

[@cmeditz]

I especially liked the clock face analogy. Great video!

[@carlosl9651]

Best explanation I've seen on KZbin or anywhere! Thanks!

[@2vertical2]

Finally! An easily understood, yet detailed explanation on this topic. Thx much.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it!

[@kennethong9136]

Excellent explanation. Even the club manufacturer don't explain them.

[@mattursitti2906]

Excellent video. Very clear and informative. Thank you for putting this explanation together.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching!

[@gedsmart3951]

I have a ping 4 Hybrid with adjustable hotel and now I understand the implications of making changes!