Adjustable Hosel Drivers - How they change Loft, Lie, and Face Angle

[@DanGagliardi]

I couldn't understand how de-lofting changed the face orientation. This is literally the best video ever on the topic. Thanks!

[@rufussthoo4083]

The revelation for me was the last part about the relationship between the contact and balance points and the 2nd assumption. Thanks for putting all the pieces together. 👍

[@spakuloid]

The best video on loft and lie with adjustable drivers ever. Thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. If you haven't, please subscribe as we have a lot of good stuff upcoming.

[@larryjohnson8168]

Damn never knew this

[@alldayrays7110]

@@EFGMC clear and accurate explanation on adjustable hosel settings. Thanks for clearing that up. A couple of questions though. 1. Would lie angle 📐 change have an effect on the center of gravity when making these adjustments? 2a. What is the exact degree increment change in lie angle +/- from Neutral Standard? 2b. While negligible, would it be have an effect on the club head, maybe the closure rate or feel?

[@EFGMC]

@@alldayrays7110 1. Yes I am sure it has some small change but honestly not enough to worry about. I think the CG change from increase/decrease of loft would be far more influential yet still too small for most people to worry about. 2.The lie angle change will depend on the club type and what the adapter is set at; 1,1.5, 2 degrees. Taylormade for example has a chart that shows the exact lies, lofts, and face angles with each setting. 2b. I have heard some people say the flattest or most upright lie can influence some golfers closure, but there is no rule for it I would say. Depends on the golfer.

[@bobpegram8042]

Agreed. This is the best explanation of adjustable hosels and their effects I have ever seen on KZbin.

[@hbyrdut]

I've had customers argue that lowering the loft closed the face and increasing the loft opened the face. The clip where you showed the club falling closed when you increase the loft and falling open when you decreased the loft is a great example I can show my customers. Thank you!

[@tarpot01]

Have spent ages looking for an explanation of how an adjustable driver works but now I've found it - a superb video explaining in simple terms the impact of changing the settings on the hosel. The use of a clock face to illustrate the relationship between the club head and the shaft was particularly good. Thanks and best wishes

[@tonyvitiello9897]

Finally a video explaining this clearly. I never understood how changing the loft would change the face angle if you square the club face to the target. It doesn’t.

[@quadrapayunir]

Got to say that is the best description on KZbin…well done. The visual of the clock face really help me grasp what the adjustments were doing!!! I stopped the video and immediately liked and subscribed

[@Form20]

I never had anyone explain the science to me before behind adjustable drivers and fairway woods while being fit. Great job explaining it. Now, I know how it truly works instead of being told to put the settings here and hit it bc that will give you the best chance of hitting it straighter. Thank you!

[@essayns1]

This video literally answered every question I’ve been asking about adjustable drivers! This video should have millions of likes by now!!

[@Charlez23]

The best video on KZbin regarding this topic.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Glad it was helpful.

[@VikesxWolves518]

@Rey Adan sounds like your a real douchebag

[@frogfoot198]

Finally an honest video on how the adjustable shaft works on the golf club. Thanks.

[@coreyhr]

It’s straight up criminal how under appreciated your channel is. I’ve never seen a collection of better videos for at home club builders to learn from. Please continue to make content and grow the channel. You’re videos are very much appreciated by us that like to tinker on our gear at home. I taught myself a couple years ago to start doing my own club work and never looked back. Would have been a huge help to have had your channel as a resource. Keep up the great work.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the very kind comment. Channel is slowly growing and I do nothing to promote it other than put out videos so we will just see where it goes.

[@mikepxg6406]

yes youtube should be arrested.

[@marckliesner2775]

Excellent video! Finally, someone who explains exactly what these settings do with a visual representation of the head and shaft after adjustment. Thank you!

[@odonski9611]

This guy definitely has a high degree in some areas of science. He knows exactly how to properly preface an explanation

[@EFGMC]

I will take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.

[@odonski9611]

@@EFGMC I'm saying you're clearly very intelligent, also thank you for explaining this to me

[@nickcassidy693]

The clock face explanation is such a cool way to explain it. Great and simple video to understand. Great work

[@andrewgerred]

Finally, someone made sense of it. Thank you good sir.

[@austinhampton7999]

This guy is being super slept on. He has a lot of knowledge and his explanation is through and very well presented.

[@KennethFitzpatrick]

Always had doubts about turning an adapter clockwise or anticlockwise could made that much difference but your explanation was brilliant.Keep up your great work.

[@GassyWookie]

I’ve always heard that open/closed commentary and on my head I didn’t think it made sense because of how we keep the face square to the target. Thanks for breaking it down so well and explaining where that thought process comes from.

[@EFGMC]

Glad it helped.

[@BillBogleJr-g5b]

One of the best explanations of the adjustable sleeve. I come from an era of flat sole woods with different bore angles. The rounded soles of drivers make this possible. Slightly less applicable to fairway woods and hybrids that don't have much camber. Tom Wishon was one of the most outspoken in this topic.

[@okolekahuna3862]

That was a great 'clock' demonstration.

[@elliotl7021]

After ten searches - I found this excellent explanation of HOW these adapters work. Thanks!

[@michaelamira4592]

That was an excellent demonstration with the different positions in the clock positions.

[@jeromedion5723]

I got fit for a Ping G410 a few years ago - 9 degrees, soft regular shaft and that worked very well . . . but then started fiddling with the loft and draw bias . . . finally went back to the loft, lie and neutral back weight which really were best for me. I'm thinking that the key piece of this video is that the balance point of the club is maybe more important than you might think at set up . . . the face angle slightly changing if you don't pay attention when taking your grip and squaring the face to the target. Great video.

[@sactrained527]

One super video, I have played golf for over 45 years. This year I bought my first adjustable driver a Cobra F9 and I wondered how all the numbers worked. With watching this video it all makes sense and you explained it better than anyone including the manufactures people. Great Job...

[@EFGMC]

Awesome. Glad to hear it helped make sense of those hosels. When you can actually see the changes being made, I find it simplifies things greatly.

[@MrTuffCookies]

Thank you so much for this video. I couldn't believe how many videos I'd tried watching that basically just said "ehhh well ya rotate it and it changes loft and lie, you figure it out..." lol like why even make that video?! Thank you for actually explaining. The critical component that I think is easy to miss and that causes the confusion is that the shaft and hosel are not parallel. I was wondering how the hell essentially just twisting the shaft would change the way the club hits, assuming that it was just rotating on an axis down the center of the shaft. But knowing that it shifts the angle of the shaft in relation to the head makes SO much more sense haha.

[@paulanderson1687]

Spent hours watching so-called expert golfers hitting balls into screens and blathering incoherently about adjustable hosels with no explanation of how or why. Finally I found this video which is exactly what I needed to understand how to adjust my Mizuno CLK. THANK YOU!! Extremely helpful and informative video.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it cleared it up.

[@TheLastBabyBoomer]

Wow!!! What an exclamation. Mizuno owes you a check. I just picked up the ST190 and could not understand this adjustable hosel thing until I found this video. Great work. Thank you and subscribed. Cheers.

[@TheAtromix97]

I looooove when KZbinrs are able to break things down into such a simple description. Made understanding adjustments on my driver so much easier! Ive been nervous to try it out

[@outraggedoutdoors]

As if golf wasn't already complicated, I stumbled upon your video lol great info man

[@simonschad9637]

Finally, a video that not only explains how it works, but also demonstrates the mechanics. Thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Glad it helped.

[@mariokl6]

Great Video!! Thank you so much, I watched 5 videos and none of them explain it as well as you do. Keep up the good work!!

[@EFGMC]

Thank you for the comment. Glad it was helpful.

[@golfsh00ter]

What a terrific video explaining something that has confused me for years. Thank you for taking the time to do this, I am now smarter than I was 10 minutes ago 😊

[@stevedimattei321]

The best explanation I've found on KZbin! Thank you AJ

[@darrenwake6537]

FINALLY!!! Someone who was able to explain how the adjustable hosel works. I thought this was either one of the greatest golf mysteries or product gimmicks of all time. I have spoken with many golf product people and no one could explain how the adjustable piece made a difference in the driver head. You finally explained ( and showed) in a way an engineer can understand the mechanics. Thank you. The missing piece that no one knew to mention is that the adjustable component is essentially bent at a slight angle. I guess the answer was just too simple for others to understand or try to explain. The angle is of course so small I could not see it with my naked eye nor had I thought it through on my own without visual evidence. Also you have a great channel. I am getting ready to rebuild my 7 iron thanks to you. Thanks again.

[@gainbear8853]

Straight up. This was incredibly well done.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks.

[@robertburger6328]

Simply put-the best explanation on you-tube about adjustable hostels and how they work. Been asking this question for two years how this works. Even a pro at a couple pro store didn't give this explanation. All other videos in regards to this subject should be removed Lol.

[@EFGMC]

Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@shawnheffernan5968]

Great explanation. I know alot of especially beginning players that look at the markings on their grip to check if the club is square to target. This presentation shows that you must always use the club face for alignment. Good job.

[@jatimmonsjr]

Wow. Tough subject and you gave a crystal clear explanation. You must have rehearsed because you moved right along without a lot of hemming and hawing. Excellent job. Thanks.

[@MrEstiui]

This is the first video on this topic that really made me understand how it works. Thank you so much :)

[@guitarbilly3593]

Excellent video - the only one on youtube to actually explain clearly how and why this works! Thank for posting

[@EFGMC]

Appreciate it. Thanks for the support!

[@jimmybass375]

Most clear and concise explanation I've seen on the topic.

[@kennethong9136]

Excellent explanation. Even the club manufacturer don't explain them.

[@donaldrobinson4029]

I have searched for an explanation on the topic of adjustable hosels. This is perfect and concise.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it was helpful.

[@steveminla]

THAT was AWESOME! I never truly understood HOW the adjustments worked until watching your video. Super clear presentation and easy to understand. Thanks!

[@seancoxe1094]

I agree with other commenters: This is the VERY BEST and most understandable presentation of this topic. I'm now a subscriber. Thanks.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the support!

[@jtax24]

Great explanation, thank you! I just picked up my first adjustable hosel driver today and will now have a perfect understanding for when I can get to the range and dial this thing in. The club manufacturer (Tour Edge) provides a loft and lie angle setting chart on their website, but no explanation of the geometry relationships. You did that simply, thanks again!

[@mattholmes9657]

Great video. I do a lot of club fittings and hearing how you explains how the hosel works is exactly how it should be explained to the average golfer. Thank you!

[@johnfeeney4636]

Good explanation. I have a Ping driver and even the Ping website doesn't give a detailed explanation, just a chart. The 2nd assumption is critical in order to just be dealing with a change in loft and not opening or closing the face. Very well explained.

[@benjamingonzales7051]

This explains a lot. I go weeks hitting driver great. And then my dumb ass starts thinking ( always happens ) maybe I can get more out of my driver if I change the loft now. Up or down. 🤦🏻‍♂️ thanks for the explanation. I’ll leave my driver alone from here on out. This video was awesome.

[@richardtomalty693]

I am echoing all the comments below. I have watched this video a few times now and only because I want to use your words in my own conversations on the topic. I am sharing your video BTW not just borrowing ideas. Super job. Very well explained. Cheers

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks for your support!

[@macking9295]

I’ve been trying to explain this phenomenon to customers since 2009. Now I’m just going to give them a link to your channel. Thanks.

[@EFGMC]

Awesome. Thanks for the support!

[@scottjohnston1028]

This is a great video that explains how the adjustable hosel adapter affects the loft and lie. I think for those that are still having difficulty understanding this you have to think about the center of the clock as being the normal grip position of the individual golfer (of a RH golfer in these examples) when holding club for the shot (A.K.A rule #1). At 5:12 in the video when the clock face is shown and the grip is rotated around the clock, in your mind, visualize the grip being moved to the center of the clock as the final position of the shaft when the golfer holds the club and then how the head itself moves as a result. For example, when the hosel is inserted so that the grip is at the 6 o'clock position on the clock, when the golfer then holds the club, the golfer naturally positions the grip into the center of their clock and the head of the club as a result is rotated forward thus reducing the lie. If the hosel is inserted so the grip end is in the 9 o'clock position, the golfer again puts the grip into the center of their clock which results in the club head to rotate slightly to the right which increases the loft. The lie angle is also slightly higher than it would be if the hosel was at neutral so the net result is a slight opening of the club. If the hosel is inserted at the 12 o'clock position, when the golfer holds the grip in the center of the clock, it raises the lie due to the club grip moving downward from 12 o'clock to center. At 3 o'clock the grip moves from 3 o'clock to the center of the clock thus resulting in the club head rotating slightly to the left which lowers the loft. The lie is its lowest when the hosel is inserted for the 6 o'clock position and the highest at the 12 o'clock position. The lie then always increases when the hosel is changed from the neutral position. The loft is the same at both 6 o'clock and 12 o'clock grip positions and max loft is at 9 o'clock grip position and minimum loft is at the 3 o'clock position. This is all taking into consideration when the grip end is centered in that clock which is what happens due to rule #1 and when the club face is squared to the target due to rule #2. Always think of that grip moving back into its center of clock position as the "final adjustment"

[@Luis1958able]

Mr. Mobile, it is clear and understandable, great job. Nobody has explained so thouroughly the process with it´s results. Great Video!!!

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate the support. Thanks.

[@MrMjbloomfield]

Best video on KZbin - explaining something I have been trying to work out for hours with other rubbish KZbin Videos......bravo sir!!!

[@EFGMC]

Thank you!

[@kboy19831983]

Awesome explanation & something Tom Wishon has tried to get across for years. You can't change both loft & face angle, it's one or the other.

[@joey5picks]

Tom Wishon's video on adjustable drivers kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5uYfIKhZ9SLi5I

[@raymondunsworth1587]

This video is the best explanation of adjustable hossels .

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching!

[@jkeith5849]

Your videos are fantastic. Could not get my head around why an adjustable hybrid I was being fitted for seemed to want to fall open at address. Love the detail

[@jjh00]

Now i finally understand why changing loft opens and closes the face. Thank you!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching.

[@davidbrokman2595]

Can't say it enough but best explanation on the planet for loft, lie and face angle!!!

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks for the support.

[@eliashaller4255]

WOW! First time (after over 30 years) I actually understand the adjustable driver! Thanks so much for making that video! Great explanation! Much appreciated!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped.

[@davebragg7722]

Indeed, the best explanation of adjustable driver I have ever heard. Should be a required video at all golf shops. Thanks!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks, I appreciate the comment.

[@btexpress53]

Awesome explanation! I'll probably watch this video 10 times. Thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching.

[@carlosl9651]

Best explanation I've seen on KZbin or anywhere! Thanks!

[@jordank316]

Thank you so much, fantastic video. I have been searching to find out how changing the hosel actually works.

[@johnellis7658]

Fantastic explanation. A lot of shops that sell these don't really understand how they work. Thanks for making it clear.

[@EFGMC]

No problem. Glad it was helpful.

[@curtisleefarmer]

Finally a great explanation of how this works! Thank you so much for this great, informative video. Well done!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@cmeditz]

I especially liked the clock face analogy. Great video!

[@jeffgunther682]

This guy Makes A lot of Very Good Scenes.... He would be a Great Neighbor.

[@mikepxg6406]

are your neighbours stupid then.

[@calvinkang1224]

Thanks for your time for explaining this, I don't think I have ever seen any other video about behind scene mechanism. Brilliant!

[@jhlaster]

Answered every question I've ever had about how this works. Thank you!

[@adamkelly479]

Thank you that is really helpful. I couldn't find this information anywhere. I thought there was something wrong with my driver as I had to really force myself to open the face. I've gone back to the standard loft now.

[@lobaker1]

Thank you. I bought a new Callaway Rogue Driver. I couldn't hit it at all. Topping it every time and miss hitting it. After an hour of frustration, I changed the hosel +2 degrees. I hit the ball perfectly fine after that. Its insane that it was the difference. It was an inch longer than my previous driver but it blew my mind that minor of a change allowed me to stop topping the ball and it going 50 yards vs 250.

[@garygarcia9045]

Learned some crucial information today with your video! I have a much clearer idea of how loft and face angle work together now! Thank you! Suscribed.

[@dogbombballet]

OMG! Your tone and instruction is great. I'm awaiting my new Cleveland adjustment tool to make some of these changes. Golf is Fun, Again! Thank you.

[@hungjy]

That's how I thought it works but it's nice to have someone confirm it for me. I have seen lots of videos and read lots of articles on this topic but like you said they all just repeat what the manufacturer instructions say and tell you how to use the adjustable hosel without explaining the actual theory behind it. Great video!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Happy you enjoyed it.

[@2vertical2]

Finally! An easily understood, yet detailed explanation on this topic. Thx much.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it!

[@reeves624]

Finally...a video on this subject that actually explains the science behind how the adjustable hosel works. All the other videos I've seen only state what adjustment creates what result, but not why. Your explanation on the "assumptions" is critically important, too. Thank you for point that out. No club fitter has been able to explain this to me as well as you just did. I suspect many do not really understand it themselves. Bravo. Extremely well done. Just subscribed to your channel, as a result.

[@EFGMC]

Appreciate it. Anyone in the golf business should watch this. Like you said, most don't understand what's happening, just regurgitating the club companies marketing.

[@mickh166]

i know i am repeating what has already been said but this is by far the best informational video on this subject that i have found. very easy and simple to understand .thank you.

[@EFGMC]

Sorry I never saw this post til now. Thanks for the kind review.

[@shotsavior1236]

A++. Your explanation surpasses every other due to your exceptional visuals. I thought I knew the subject well, but I gained a lot of additional knowledge. Great job.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate the compliment. Thanks for the support.

[@BenGibsSr]

I was being fitted for a driver. The ideal "loft" was between the two options of 7.5 and 9.5 heads. I needed 8.25 and when we measured results, adjusting up from 7.5 worked better for me that adjusting down from the higher club. Your video shows why. Head/Default Loft, shaft, then adjustments... It take a while but is worth it.

[@gavinclancy1475]

Brilliant, thanks for helping me finally understand the physics/mechanism behind adjustable loft and its relationships with Lie/Face angle.

[@ricardomoreira5939]

Saw the video at work and had to login to give it a like. Probably the most in-depth and simple explanation for this topic. I’m still slicing the ball lol. Thanks for the info.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks for the support.

[@derickblackman7286]

Brilliant explanation, best I've seen - all makes sense now. I'm off to the range with ratchet in hand!

[@tucaz65]

One of the best videos I’ve seen from the perspective of physics and club engineering. Great comparison shots!

[@Seasunsangria]

A great explanation of adjustable hosels! My brain is no longer confused so thank you!

[@EFGMC]

Happy it helped!

[@LanceCampeau]

Fantastic video... clearly, its tough subject to explain easily... but I now fully understand the principal and function of the adjustable hosel. Thank you!

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate it. Thanks for watching.

[@2schnoz]

Absolutely the best counterintuitive thought is simplified, thank you

[@larrymorris9260]

That’s the best explanation I’ve ever heard on loft and lie adjustment

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Happy New Year!

[@thehappygolfers]

By far, the most indepth and eye-opening descriptive driver / hosel explanation I have found. This has absolutely helped with my iwn driving questions

[@MM-zb9kc]

Great explanation. Also great visualization to show how it does it. I never knew that the hosel had that room when you rotate the shaft.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the support.

[@EverybodyEditsHacks]

WOW thank you so much for clearing that up I had no idea the hosel was off set a bit from the shaft. I’ve been opening an closing the face to try to adjust but this make so much more sense!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks. Club companies never explain any of this so there's plenty of confusion out there.

[@Labgorilla]

Oh finally ! Someone to explain the topic. Subscribed!

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for the support!

[@thomasfurgal3039]

Excellent explanation! I just got my first adjustable hosel driver and now I know just what I'm doing while adjusting it. Thank you.

[@justapedn1]

Good stuff. We should all know how our equipment works. This helps.

[@petegalindez9961]

BOOM! Drop the mic! Great job! I never even thought how it worked…

[@eggsmann594]

Thanks for your efforts and presentation. The industry should be compensating you !

[@EFGMC]

I agree! Just need to figure out who to talk to about this.

[@eggsmann594]

@@EFGMC IDK, maybe get a publisher...you certainly have the knowledge and demonstration skills for someone to invest. You might be the next (blank blankon) ! :)

[@koreycowan1976]

Awesome! THIS IS THE FIRST OF 10 VIDEOS THAT FINALLY EXPLAINS IT TO WHERE I UNDERSTAND IT... because he actually uses visuals.

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching. Glad it cleared up the mechanics of it.

[@samprasfoon06]

Thank you so much for this comprehensive video with a perfect demonstration. Most videos out there only do the talking which I cannot understand. Thank you.

[@EFGMC]

I appreciate the comments. I agree most other explanations fall short, when it's really pretty straight forward once you see what is going on.

[@EFGMC]

Glad it was helpful. Stay tuned, I have more videos on the way.

[@samprasfoon06]

MOBILE CLUBMAKER Yes sir...!!!

[@jacquestaulard3088]

Your vids are so well done! You explain things so clearly that I wonder at it. Wishon also has great info, but his explanations require several viewings, along with technical lingo. thank you thank you

[@EFGMC]

Thanks for watching and for the support!