Adjusting the PTO stage of a 2 stage clutch

[@noelstractors-firewood57]

Great to know. As I was watching I wondered, jumpins do you have to split the tractor. Any way, great video, hope you had a good Canada day weekend.

[@280813jb]

Dave, you make it look easy, try doing that up through the inspection plate. We also found that the heads on the adjustment screws on the pressure plate fingers will become worn and if you turn these screws a quarter turn then a new surface will be used and PTO will engage properly. This was problem occurred more on tractors used with front end loaders.

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Thanks for the tip on the lever bolts! Loader tractors definitely take more abuse to the clutch. Thanks for watching!

[@leinhit]

I just did it thru the inspection plate today.. wasn't fun but it worked and is now fixed.. ( I didn't try the adjustment screws though)

[@CanadianRedneck15]

@@leinhit Excellent, glad to hear it turned out!

Hi Dave! I got a IH 616 from 1963,and I can’t find anything on the internet about the tractor. Do you know something about it? Sweden farmers 🇸🇪👍

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I'm not familiar with a 616 but if it's the tractor in your profile picture it looks a lot like a 414. I understand in the UK there was a 6 cylinder version, your 616 may be one like that. Thanks for watching!

[@donvoll2580]

Good day Dave from Ontario. Yes interesting video. Were wild fires close to you.?? Thanks

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Thanks Don, thankfully there were no fires close to me and it's been raining a lot here since early june, we be hard pressed to light a fire4 with gas right now. LOL Thanks for watching!

[@archie6106]

That engine hoist is dropping slowly over the coarse of the video. Jsut tried to skip totnhe bit I wanted and watched it drop like a foot across the length fothe vid

[@CanadianRedneck15]

The engine is hanging off of a 40+ year old tractor loader that has in excess of 20,000 hours on it so there is no shame in it leaking by a bit. Thanks for watching!

[@guyvossen1640]

Good and simply explenation. Thanks

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

[@terrycarl8923]

Fyi thin wrenches help doing this adjustment

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Yes for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@masseymm]

great vid Dave, good timing as I'm fixing up a MF 255 and I have to check the clutch on it

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I'm glad the timing worked out, thanks for watching!

[@tonybunch543]

👍 I’ve got a 275 Massey that needs that, thought I was gonna have to split it.😓

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Its tight but you should be able to get to it through the inspection plate on the bottom of the clutch housing. Thanks for watching!

[@otisbrabham8437]

Thank you plain and simple

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@jeepcj3b436]

Yes. Thank you for this video. Your other one of MF 175 2 stage clutch assembly was helpful as well. I'm still having trouble really understanding how these two stage clutches work to understand the "why" on the adjustments - if you have a written explanation or can do a video that explains how the components work as the clutch pedal is pressed in or let out that would be useful for some of us.

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I had been wondering if anybody would be interested in a video like that, I will see what I can do. Thanks for watching!

[@penderkev]

The 3 bolts he adjusted, screw into the main clutch pressure plate, as the main clutch disc wears that pressure plate will move forward and cause the 3 bolts to be further away from the PTO pressure plate, dictating their readjustment.

[@RubenG-i7x]

I am in a pickle with the glow plugs on 424 international tractor diesel Power goes to 432 but not 1 But no heat Test them with battery and burned glow plugs instantly 😢😢😢 Do t nkow what aelse to do Please help😢😢

[@danieledistefano3651]

Good to see ya CR!

[@CanadianRedneck15]

You as well, thanks for watching!

[@terrycarl8923]

What distance do the fingers need to be from the throwout bearing i accidently loosened the wrong adjuster and its now way to close

[@CanadianRedneck15]

You want about 1" to 1 1/2" of free play on your clutch pedal. Thanks for watching!

[@terrycarl8923]

Thanks

[@oldtractorandcats6352]

how do you adjust the other clutch i havent pulled the panel yet but plan to in the next couple days the pedal has to be pushed all the way down

[@chrisastley7923]

Dave great information but why have you turned into a werewolf

[@rc9119]

Hey Dave thanks for the channel it’s been a ton of help. ? I have a David Brown 880 and am wondering how to adjust the clutch… peddle is at the top but it still engages and drives. Thanks

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am not certain on an 880 but check you pedal linkage, there may be a way to get yourself some free-play there. Thanks for watching!

[@terrycarl8923]

I have another question maybe you can answer why does my 444 lose all steering when i go up a hill?

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Sounds like you're low on hydraulic fluid.

[@terrycarl8923]

Unfortunatly im not. My neighbor thought maybe it has to heavy of hydraulic oil in it

[@CanadianRedneck15]

@@terrycarl8923 That is also a possibility, clean the hydraulic screen to.

[@pierregagne6109]

B250 looking for the 3 spring holding the carbon bearing on the pressure plate, plus the 2 pieces carbon bearing

[@CanadianRedneck15]

cast iron plate on the pressure plate, the carbon is in the release bearing. Those pieces aren't available separately so you will likely have to buy a complete pressure plate. Thanks for watching!

[@landroverihtractor1965]

Very helpful as always - thanks Dave

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I'm glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching!

[@ihus9950]

Great info 👍🏻

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@dtm8073]

Didn't realize I could adjust the 2nd stage clutch on my B275 I thought I had to replace it. Will definitely give that a try. Thanks Dave.

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I'm glad to be helpful, thanks for watching!

[@ronirazyoren]

Thank you so much Dave. This is super informative and clear. I have a 1966 IH B414 that my dad is its first owner. You mentioned it can be done via the clutch's inspection plates. Sorry for the dumb question but where are they located? TIA

[@CanadianRedneck15]

There is a large rectangular tin plate under the clutch housing. Thanks for watching!

[@terrycarl8923]

This video was very helpful thanks for making it i have a 1968 ih444 thats been abused for years by previous owners and now i have it and im learning how to fix it

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@leinhit]

Dave, exactly what i needed for my 444.. i was about to split it for the first time but i will try thru the inspection plate first. The trans clutch works fine, the pto clutch doesn't work at all.. Any chance of showing how to replace the pto lever on a 444? Mine broke off and i have the new one.. you explained it once to me but a video would be easier to understand.. Wish u were near me in Michigan! Thanks for the vids, i watch them all. - steve

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you found the video helpful. I will try to do one on the PTO lever some time when I have the chance. Thanks for watching!

[@leinhit]

FIXED! Dave, today I got under there... Rotated the engine by hand found the three adjusting bolts as you indicated. There was way too much clearance. I adjust them down to .80 as you said. I then adjusted almost all of the play out of the clutch pedal, and then with someone standing on the clutch pedal as hard as they could I use a hammer to bang on the clutch and it split apart. I tested it and it seems to be working... First time in years. It sat in a barn for years and I think the clutch just corroded together. Thanks! ( Oh, and I did it through the inspection plate). That alone makes up for all the smoke you guys sent last week, wow that was thick here! :)

[@CanadianRedneck15]

@@leinhit Awesome, glad you found the cure! :)

[@thegreatchickenoverlord5976]

Exactly what i needed. The 2 stage on my clutch does not work at all but i had no idea how to adjust it

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you found the video helpful, thanks for watching!

[@upatthefarm6888]

Wish you were my neighbor, that would be super handy! HAHA - would you now anyone in the Ottawa area with this level of knowledge with these old red tractors?

[@CanadianRedneck15]

Sorry I don't but if you check in with a couple of the smaller farms in your area they might be able to guide you in the right direction. Thanks for watching!

[@dtm8073]

Did you try Bourbonnais in Sarsfield?

[@starflite3]

Very helpful. Thanks.

[@CanadianRedneck15]

I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

[@UltraWK]

Did you say 0,0008 inch?

[@CanadianRedneck15]

No .080 inch. Thanks for watching!

[@UltraWK]

@@CanadianRedneck15 Thanks