Adler on Aristotle (1979)

In this program, Bill Moyers interviews philosopher and educator Mortimer Adler about his book on Aristotle and his process of interpreting great Greek philosophers’ work into modern day language.
#philosophy #ethics #aristotle

[@user-gh3nq1uj3u]

This is a lovely,lovely conversation. Not only was Adler the philosopher but the interviewer was unasummingly and pleasantly philosophical as well.❤❤❤❤

[@Mahalakshmi-Khan]

Not just adler was great, but what fantastic set of intriguing questions from the interviewer as well! Great discussion!

[@trevorcrowley5748]

Smartest guy in the room and Moyers is no slouch

[@poboysix4]

I highly recommend the Moyers / Campbell interview

[@JohnBullard]

Adler changed my life, when I found his HOW TO READ A BOOK. It led me to read the great books in historical order. I especially recommend his THE GREAT IDEAS.

[@user-qp2xy5zs7r]

Can you please list them?

[@JohnBullard]

@@user-qp2xy5zs7r It's a long list. Google THE GREAT BOOKS, ADLER

[@peterbrennan1085]

@@user-qp2xy5zs7rlook up britannica Great Books of the Western World. I believe the latest iteration has 60 books. Adler was the editor

[@AI-Hallucination]

We express our gratitude for sharing this content.

[@stoyanfurdzhev]

The halfwits

[@UniteAgainstEvil]

Yeah I'm sure "we" do, Mr. Hallucination.

[@pseudoplotinus]

Yes we absolutely do

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@@UniteAgainstEvil “WE”

[@christopherwood9032]

So many gems packed into this great conversation

[@PhilipPedro2112]

Haven't seen this since it aired on PBS in the early 80s. Thanks for posting.

[@Crytoma]

Simple yet substantial and worth remembering

[@CyberspacedLoner]

Bill Moyers was a great interviewer

[@JayTX.]

Agreed

[@josephwinnard6666]

Moyers' "The Power of Myth" show with Joseph Campbell is incredible if you haven't seen it!!

[@Lobishomem]

Thanks for posting!

[@bg-se7rq]

Ty for posting this. Excellent watch

[@allaboutbooksummaries6023]

I never thought I'd see new Mortimer J. Adler content. Thank you!

[@DaboooogA]

Thanks for the upload - I recent saw Adler on William Buckley's Firing Line and was very impressed.

[@bryanutility9609]

Listening on repeat ❤

[@BloatedBearucraticNightmare]

A man must first seek out that which he is passionate about, then pursue that passion in order he can be successful both subjectively, and objectively.

[@marymelnyk3678]

Thanks to bringing this to us very much needed and appreciated at this time …. It reminds us of how Far we have moved away from our true destiny 🙏

[@kristogirma8319]

At what point in time do you think we were close to our true destiny? If you asked me, I would say, The fulfilment of human destiny was achieved 2000 years ago in the person of Christ Jesus. I have reasons to think that but your question sparked my curiosity as to when you think in history human beings have been closer to their true destiny

[@Heyfawad]

6:18 "Anything a machine can do, human beings should not do". Would've loved hearing his thoughts on the exponential rise of AI and a world dominated by it. There are very few things that machines can't do today.

[@Hermetic_]

Agree. This guy is an idealistic fool or useful idiot.

[@kristogirma8319]

Funny enough in his book “how to listen and how to talk” he discusses what you mentioned if you care to know his thoughts on it

[@Heyfawad]

@@kristogirma8319 Thanks! I'd definitely give it a read.

[@VenusLover17]

❤❤❤❤ thanks for this beauty!!😊

[@Lopfff]

I remember reading Aristotle For Everybody when I was like 11 years old. Early 80s. Thank you for this video.

[@opposingshore9322]

Those 3 goods of the mind were in exodus 35:31 , finalized in the 5th century BC, long before Aristotle was alive! Also covered in the 3 types of paññā in the texts of Abhidarma, early 3rd century BC. Fascinating thread of human self awareness.

[@Modus07]

“The Indians and Chinese laugh at Western parochialism.”

[@antoniovittorio4686]

After having watched this excellent video, I think that Adler is he who has understood best Aristotle's ethics. I will certainly watch again this video because it is really instructive and also because of Adler's personality, a personality characterized by the virtues of humility, simplicity and clarity. These virtues are very rare and highly valuable, especially in our excessively mediatised era.

[@voltaire3001]

This series changed my life.

[@vonroretz3307]

Aquinas brought him back to prominence. Theology is the Queen of the sciences, and philosophy followed, like a child followers its Mother.

[@WWinterConstructions]

Interesting Personallity, and a good one.

[@SH-cu9rc]

Why it is not possible to save this great video to Watch Later list?

[@EricGray-zr2es]

Philosophy is a way to get ready to die with dignity, peace, and fearlessness. To face mortality and accept reality.

[@thomasd2444]

That also

[@Modus07]

Adler was brilliant, I only wish he had more cultivated the virtue of patience and active listening.

[@thomasd2444]

4. Opportunities for access to the pleasures of sense as well as the pleasures of play & the aesthetic pleasures

[@JayTX.]

From what I've observed not all minds are capable of a greater path or social ascension....some are just meant to dig ditches...and that's ok , will to power

[@hussienmohammed2914]

Those were the lowest rank in the slaves class, as supposed in the republic (Plato never contradicts Aristotle).

[@thomasd2444]

For us, there is Good Fortune to know that MJA's correct desire that there must be Political & Economic HAVES without Political & Economic HAVE-NOTS can be affordably done in the 21ST century.

[@user-ve9xv3bs2u]

Legend

[@thomasd2444]

06:40 - The problem of affordably providing to each person the 6 external elements which together comprise a DECENT LIVELIHOOD was knowledge that MJA, unfortunately, missed learning in 1996.

[@strongfp]

If you ever wanted an introduction to Marxism this is a good set of interviews talks. Marx was a student of Aristotle (distant) and understood him quite well. Aristotle was a utopian tho...

[@konstantinosstavropoulos3605]

good

[@thomasd2444]

1. A decent supply of the means of subsistence

[@yohanessaputra9274]

24:24 is that Milan Kundera attending Adler's class :O

[@thomasd2444]

Here are the 6 external elements which, together, comprise the needed Decent Livelihood without which no one may pursue Happiness & which a Good Self-Governing People Provides & Maintains for all its members to its best ability:

[@thomasd2444]

It is up to all voters in a self-governing polity to know best how to govern themselves & to know the ways & means to provide & maintain a polity (also a world) without HAVE-NOTS

[@thomasd2444]

2. Living & working conditions conducive to health 3. Medical care

[@sven888]

Philosophers are disturbers of peace. I assume because the direct truth can be threatening to the ego. But when the ego is transcended, then there is peace.

[@thomasd2444]

10 points

[@thomasd2444]

5. Opportunities for access to the goods of the mind through educational facilities in youth & adult life

[@saammahakala]

7:09 Jack Fresco's The Venus Project once all characters have been vetted of ego!

[@thomasd2444]

It is also up to all voters to know that if you DO NOT have a right to everything you NEED to pursue Happiness, then you DO NOT have a right to pursue Happiness. And in the 21ST century we humans have an inalienable RIGHT to everything we need to pursue HAPPINESS.

[@casteretpollux]

That interview with distant view of the two protagonists down by a loudly rushing river ... the mind can't enlighten itself: it's how we cope as part of our environment. Aristotle was an encyclopedia. 12 different names for different types of happiness, 23 kinds of goodness. In some ways our thinking is diminishing with the development of technology.

[@thomasd2444]

6. Enough free time from subsistence work both in youth & adult life to take advantage of these opportunities

[@practice4089]

2:20 that's a remarkable statement on science considering it has given us the profound insight to the myth of free will...if that ain't wisdom I don't know what is. Would Adler have changed his mind?

[@thomasd2444]

01:04 - ARISTOTLE FOR EVERYBODY: Difficult Writing (not thought) Made Easy

[@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858]

32:59

[@Miz19666]

Philosophy for the everyman and yet and yet, when introducing folks at this meeting, I am watching they’re all educated men not the plumber or the electrician or the mechanic or college educated men. And I say how interesting.

[@jimhim585]

The interviewer sounds exactly like Charlie Rose

[@BloatedBearucraticNightmare]

Seems to this old Cat "The End" should be considered a new beginning during our lives, as many times as necessary.

[@marianaescudero6639]

😅😅😅😅 51:06 😊

[@jamestregler1584]

Unfortunately ; today we only have opinions !

[@ginomazzei1076]

Plato for all you mystics

[@alisonarmstrong8421]

but the weaving done by Queen Helen of Sparta and Queen Penelope of Ithaca (originallly from Sparta) and women from the beginning of tiime til today around the world are artists of the loom! they invent as they weave. It is the meditative state of the artist while making...

[@thomasd2444]

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[@ginomazzei1076]

“Compared to Jung psychologists like Adler and Freud were monomaniacal” -Aldous Huxley

[@ishaansingh9899]

Different Adler

[@thomasd2444]

06:30 - Be not afraid that robots & AI & machines may do work once done by humans alone for now humans may think & make & do work which only humans may do.

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[@samlazar1053]

There is a lot of Philosophy nowadays but way to little true philosophers. The last 2 that truly made an impact are Nietzsche and Dostoyevsky and that's about it

[@user-zs6ww4ok4t]

Yes, but N and D demolished classical and analytic philosophy. Some impact!

[@mariolongtin8271]

Is this Ryan Holiday's dad? Haha they did similar works. This Adler guy apparently didn't know about Stoicism 😅

[@devoradamaris]

🕊🌎🕊🕊sharing🫂thankYOU 👑

[@thomasd2444]

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[@stevenkarras3490]

Adler's cool son went to HS with me.

[@thomasd2444]

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[@ElusiveCube]

in 7 min. lapse I do not agree with the definition of hard labor, manual labor is irreplaceable in many cases and was definitely even more in need in the 4th. cen. BC. Not everyone can be taught high skills, not everyone can be a GENERAL or an engineer. Even a bee hive is made of workers and not only queens, nations have one King and many peasants.

[@scoon2117]

This dude lived 99 yearz

[@pawa7714]

can't imagine Adler as having been anything too controversial, but alright, what do I know or care

[@thomasd2444]

09:58 -

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15:56 =

[@Pikachulova7]

Back when people had spirit.

[@thomasd2444]

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[@dnejejeje]

He has no respect for hard workers and looks down on them because he only respects brain and not muscles. Very bad attitute. Someone who is willing to work in a coal mine is to be respected the most

[@opposingshore9322]

The fatal flaw of ivory tower intellectuals. Physical intelligence is very real and very valuable .

[@Omnicis]

@@opposingshore9322 Well, most of the great athletes were thinkers as well, I think one can posses both, a hybrid in some sense.

[@2009Artteacher]

Aristotle's law on non-contradiction, would not agree with " uncommon common sense"

[@skeptic1124]

Cant have too much knowledge? I disagree. Right now i am practicing mental hygiene, that is why i am watching this video. Too much knowledge about politics and war was causing me problems and suffering.

[@thomasd2444]

You will seek knowledge in other topics. Or you will seek understanding in some area. Or seek wisdom. Your mind will know what to do.

[@oliverjamito9902]

Students how can ye know? Nor why to even to know? Nor what is needed for just needed to know? To know what? Even "WHAT" Can't exist in front! Give Gratitude and Honor unto my Heirs commanded to provide space, from here grows, and came with TIME! Why from whom, nor what it took to even given TIME "REASON COME FORTH"! Is like...from without form and void leading towards nothingness extinction! Beloved what is extinction nor nothingness in front of the little child "i" AM? Nevertheless unto all the wise of this world will say DIFFER! Where increase belongs? Keep watch!

[@Shevock]

He didn't live to see the adjunctification of the university, where most who have the IQ and work ethic to do such creative and thinking work can't make a living doing so.

[@Modus07]

33:25 The notion of the unconscious certainly appears in non-Western culture long before the 19th century.

[@stephendaisley8645]

What sort of pants does Bill have on?

[@zardoz7900]

We are powerless regarding our collective fate and it will unfold by means of its own will and we're just going to have to roll with the punches. Any super ego virtue signaling is silly, to say the least.

[@horsymandias-ur]

How would you feel about the idea that there might be something akin to a science of history, or that at which sociology/psychology/political science aims? I think I am in agreement with Adler when he claims that the end of science is production. Francis Bacon would claim that “what is true in knowledge is efficient in operation” (that is to say, ultimately, that knowledge is power). If the “collective fate” is liable to be an object of knowledge I would believe it to be liable towards technological limitation, as well (which for me is cause for optimism but I could see why that might cause despair in others)

[@horsymandias-ur]

P.S. where can I read more about what you’ve shared, if you’ve learned or written about it elsewhere

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Soooo, modern Americans then. Yep, this is what I see today.

[@ForSoxialBoy]

All virtue or no virtue, woah

[@thomasd2444]

Correct. Do you desire correctly or do you desire incorrectly ?

[@pinecone9045]

Alder should just lecture on his Judaism it's all he's talking about.

[@simpinainteasy680]

So studying is Courageous Hard Work but manual labor is looked down upon. And I see where deindustrilization has led our so called Culture.

[@benf2532]

tldr:?

[@TreeintheQuad]

Live life in accordance with reason.

[@TreeintheQuad]

I’m suspicious of that myself, and I’m certainly no Aristotle scholar. But such is the risk of skipping the video lol

[@horsymandias-ur]

tldr: no happiness ever came from a tl;dr

[@opposingshore9322]

TLDR: there are no shortcuts to knowledge, wisdom, or understanding. we must work and sacrifice

[@_eddiecole]

"You can't have too much information " that was said before this tik tok and short video Era. I think information is like money. U can't have too much. But too much money without training, skill, and mindfulness practice may drive one crazy or lead to imbalances elsewhere. If you watch junk videos all day it can harm the brain and lead to a dullness, and less ability to focus and handle/do certain things.

[@progyandas9650]

His interpretation of Aristotle's automation theory and unskilled work is too far stretched and appalling.

[@user-ec3rm9wr1n]

Is seeking wealth turned by time to overweight 😔

[@mykrahmaan3408]

NEED must be quantized GEOPHYSICALLY and clearly specified as the "same number of elementary particles of each person" existing in GEOLETS corresponding to each person inside the earth. Thus the feeling of needs (hunger, fear, pain) indicate the necessity for each person to access own GEOLET and collect all relevant particles from it, after which LIFE FUNCTION (= satisfaction of needs) would become eternal. This implies every being can be immortal and there are only finite number of beings possible to be manufactured by this earth, hence all immersed ones (= dead ones) retrace and resurrectable by us, once we derive the mathematical model of this manufacturing process of the earth. This earth is the only bodies manufacturing vessel in the entire known universe and deserves to be analyzed as such, the absurd Copernican mediocrity assumption and consequent justification of LAWS OF NATURE with all its evil, conditioned by a power (now called NATURE instead of GOD), IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT WE OURSELVE DO IN IT, notwithstanding. Once we derive that mathematical model we would be able to rectify the errors in that process that cause all evil (disasters, predation, diseases ~ which includes all violence ~ and death), so that we can sustain evil free life function eternally, instead of PREDICTING them (evil) the way current science sets as its ultimate purpose. PREVENTION of evil is not found even in the vocabulary of the FATALISTICALLY SLAVISH experimental and observational science. PREVENTION OF ALL EVIL must be the sole purpose cum criterion of proof of all search for knowledge.

[@kihondosa4]

Very opinionated yet popular. One shouldn't say what another person is thinking. It's just nonsense

[@706easy]

Real ninjas know Plato body Aristotle any day

[@meatisburg3r]

Facts

[@tangerinesarebetterthanora7060]

Plato was a impish momma's boy.

[@categories5066]

Aristotle bodied Plato in his book the Metaphysics

[@anthonyloia2589]

Y can’t they both be ninjas?

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

0:06 ironic that Nietzsche thoroughly demonstrated exactly how you can. The Quest for Knowledge, or perhaps the Will to Truth, is in its disembodied and separate form not some self-evident good.

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

@@hermannretzlaff1070 Nietzsche demonstrated it formally, but he was hardly the first nor the last to understand it in a basic sense. Anyone with even average intelligence and a little honesty can conceive of multiple examples where certain types of knowledge can be harmful to a person's effectiveness, motivation, goals and physical health. Freddy was merely able to distill it to the pithy aphorism that one's strength of soul is directly related to the quantity of undiluted truth that they can handle without ill effect, but being human we all need to have it diluted to a substantial degree nonetheless.

[@hermannretzlaff1070]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Personally the mere concept of knowledge is so broad, specificity would be required for your point on “examples of harmful types of knowledge” to make sense as part of a wider argument against the constant pursuit of knowledge. Seeing as, for me, it simply demonstrates an opportunity for further distillation of said knowledge in order to further influence the motivation to acquire even more knowledge that can be ultimately “good” as it stands as a response to, and a combative, towards the ‘harmful knowledge’ that you speak of. And in turn would then strengthen and further authenticate one’s personal “goals” or “effectiveness”. For example coming to a realisation through certain said “harmful knowledge” that can reveal an ugly truth that relates to one’s “goals” as you say. Would that not push one to further strive for knowledge that can combat these threats to what one finds dearest? That being their individual “effectiveness, physical health, motivation” etc? Or would one rather dilute the truth in order to live in a lie that conforms to what they think to be their intellectual threshold, or ‘comfort zone’ per se. That further pervasion and desire to further distill knowledge in order to get to one’s truest self, or just simply the truest one can get in one lifetime of course, is what yourself or of course Nietzsche frowns upon and chalks up as the undignified “will to truth”, but is essentially that which I think is the most dignified thing a man can do. Plus it’s satisfying - a type of satisfaction that I’d say hits different when in comparison to that type of comfortable, inauthentic, ephemeral pleasure that comes with that dash of subconscious discomfort to the ‘harmful knowledge’ one wouldn’t want to admit they’ve conformed to. Then again I haven’t read the entirety of Nietzsches work, and have simply just gone off my current understanding of his concepts, and your comments. So yeah maybe I’m tripping in some respects lmao

[@hermannretzlaff1070]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Personally the mere concept of knowledge is so broad, specificity would be required for your point on “harmful types of knowledge” to make sense as part of a wider argument against the constant pursuit of knowledge. Seeing as, for me, it simply demonstrates an opportunity for further distillation of said knowledge in order to further influence the motivation to acquire even more knowledge that can be ultimately “good” as it stands as a response to, and a combative, towards the ‘harmful knowledge’ that you speak of. And in turn would I think strengthen and further authenticate one’s personal “goals” or “effectiveness”. For example coming to a realisation through certain said “harmful knowledge” that can reveal an ugly truth that relates to one’s “goals” as you say. Would that not push one to further strive for more knowledge that can combat these threats to what one finds dearest? That being their individual “effectiveness, physical health, motivation” etc? Or would one rather dilute the truth in order to live in a lie that conforms to what they think is their intellectual threshold, and ‘comfort zone’ per se. That further pervasion and desire to further distill knowledge in order to get to one’s truest self, or just simply the truest one can get in one lifetime of course, is what yourself, or of course Nietzsche frowns upon and chalks up as the undignified “will to truth”, but is essentially that which I think is the most dignified thing a man can do. Plus it’s satisfying - a type of satisfaction that I’d say hits different when in comparison to that type of comfortable, inauthentic, ephemeral pleasure that comes with that dash of subconscious discomfort due to the ‘harmful knowledge’ one wouldn’t want to admit they’ve conformed to by way of ignorance and “dilution” Then again I still haven’t read the entirety of Nietzsches work, and have simply just gone off my current understanding of his concepts, and your comments. So maybe I’m tripping in some respects lmao

[@hermannretzlaff1070]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Personally the mere concept of knowledge is so broad, specificity would be required for your point on “harmful types of knowledge” to make sense as part of a wider argument against the constant pursuit of knowledge. Seeing as, for me, it simply demonstrates an opportunity for further distillation of said knowledge in order to further influence the motivation to acquire even more knowledge that can be ultimately “good” as it stands as a response to, and a combative, towards the ‘harmful knowledge’ that you speak of. And in turn I think would strengthen and further authenticate one’s personal “goals” or “effectiveness”. For example coming to a realisation through certain said “harmful knowledge” that can reveal an ugly truth that relates to one’s “goals” as you say. Would that not push one to further strive for more knowledge that can combat these threats to what one finds dearest? That being their individual “effectiveness, physical health, motivation” etc? Or would one rather dilute the truth in order to live in a lie that conforms to what they think is their intellectual threshold, and ‘comfort zone’ per se. That further pervasion and desire to further distill knowledge in order to get to one’s truest self, or just simply the truest one can get in one lifetime of course, is what yourself, or of course Nietzsche frowns upon and chalks up as the undignified “will to truth”, but is essentially that which I think is the most dignified thing a man can do. Plus it’s satisfying - a type of satisfaction that I’d say hits different when in comparison to that type of comfortable, inauthentic, ephemeral pleasure that comes with that dash of subconscious discomfort due to the ‘harmful knowledge’ one wouldn’t want to admit they’ve conformed to by way of ignorance or “dilution”. Then again I still haven’t read the entirety of Nietzsches work, and have simply just gone off my current understanding of his concepts, and your comments. So maybe I’m tripping in some respects lmao

[@hermannretzlaff1070]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Personally the mere concept of knowledge is so broad, specificity would be required for your point on “harmful types of knowledge” to make sense as part of a wider argument against the constant pursuit of knowledge. Seeing as, for me, it simply demonstrates an opportunity for further distillation of said knowledge in order to further influence the motivation to acquire even more knowledge that can be ultimately “good” as it stands as a response to, and a combative, towards the ‘harmful knowledge’ that you speak of. And in turn I think would strengthen and further authenticate one’s personal “goals” or “effectiveness”. For example coming to a realisation through certain said “harmful knowledge” that can reveal an ugly truth that relates to one’s “goals” as you say. Would that not push one to further strive for more knowledge that can combat these threats to what one finds dearest? That being their individual “effectiveness, physical health, motivation” etc? Or would one rather dilute the truth in order to live in a lie that conforms to what they think is their intellectual threshold, and ‘comfort zone’ per se. That further pervasion and desire to further distill knowledge in order to get to one’s truest self, or just simply the truest one can get in one lifetime of course, is what “Freddy” frowns upon, and chalks up as the undignified “will to truth”, but is essentially that which I think is the most dignified thing a man can do. Plus it entails a type of satisfaction that I’d say hits different when in comparison to that type of comfortable, inauthentic, ephemeral pleasure that comes with that dash of subconscious discomfort due to the ‘harmful knowledge’ one wouldn’t want to admit they’ve conformed to by way of ignorance or “dilution”. Then again I still haven’t read the entirety of Nietzsches work, and have simply just gone off my current understanding of his concepts, and your comments. So maybe I’m tripping in some respects lmao

[@MFJoneser]

Mostly excellent takeaways, deeply and ruinously confused on key points

[@peznino1]

Not a woman in sight 😂😂😂

[@hussienmohammed2914]

Yeah, the blond archetict

[@JayTX.]

Seeking the traditional ideal of wisdom seems to be something only men do, usually women's idea of wisdom is some form of mysticism

[@FroggyTheGroggy]

​@@JayTX.Logic is not enought to explain the action. Its neccessary an attitude. So men are more irrational than women.

[@opposingshore9322]

A huge blindspot and sad lack in our wisdom traditions. No voice of the mother! I do value the character of Diotima, who was supposedly Socrates’ teacher on Eros. But still she was written by Plato 😕

[@JayTX.]

@@opposingshore9322 always the wise man never the wise women, I think schopenhauer was on to something

[@insaneserb7786]

A 52 minute long infomercial to sell this grifter's book... Muricans, please, never change 🤣🤣🤣🤣