CAPE TOWN WATER CRISIS // WHERE IS THE WATER ACTUALLY GOING?

[@eldricheybers6733]

The water runs from the sluice down to genadendal, caledon, riviersonderend. It does not go to waste. They are also dependend on theewaterskloof dam for theyre water supply. Farms in the theewaterskloof area are only allowed to water crops twice a week and not everyday like when the dams are full. Alot can be said about water management. Dont blame the farmers or industries blame planners and water wasters.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Eldrich Eybers who’s blaming the farmers? Thanks for the insight, I’m learning a lot for the info coming my way

[@daklekwaterdigting1992]

Eldrich Eybers Dis te maklik om sluise oop te maak maar hoeveel staats initiatief was daar om nuwe ondergrondse water te bekom? 3 maande se supply oor en hul oplossing is om die sluise oop te maak vir boere kilometers ver? Ouboet, hand en sand het ek en jy lank gesit en top voor ons n besluit soos dit gemaak het. Jy weet goed dat onderwater bronne en are steeds vloei see toe so hoekom di kans waag om sluise oop te maak? Tensy daar n geologiese beslissing gemaak was wat oordeel dat daar vir boere water voorsien word ondergronds deur middel van sluise oop maak.... Maar ek en jy weet baie goed daar is geen oordeelkunde gebruik vir die water wat deur daardie sluise skeur nie ne?

[@poepflater]

I had to report a farmer this week for spraying decorative flowers next to the road with mist sprinklers while we had a small drizzle of rain.

[@adamjohnson731]

You need to investigate the water bottling companies who are selling us water sourced from the drought stricken Western Cape i.e. Franshoek, Worcester, Caledon, etc. Why should they be allowed to profit from a scarce resource, it is unconstitutional as a right to water takes priority - the profiteering of these companies has to stop.

[@mmpoggs2033]

BLAME corruption of those in authority who do what they want unchallenged.

[@CarlJones14]

Cape Town has seen a 70% plus rise in population in recent times. There is your answer.

[@fandomfancy2450]

Carl Jones reference link ?

[@fandomfancy2450]

SwampCritter I'm too lazy to even finish reading your comment

[@fandomfancy2450]

SwampCritter can you reword that?

[@fandomfancy2450]

SwampCritter nah man. I know I'm lazy. Its just funny to see ya freak out. BTW didn't read past the first sentence of your comment. Can you please describe your comment in 2 words?

[@fandomfancy2450]

SwampCritter if you're so smart, why are you even entertaining this conversation bro?

[@mom_doc]

Except that we don't grow our own coffee or chocolate in the western Cape. This is just an effort to create drama. How can we choose "Farms vs. Humans?" ! Really? Of course we can't allow our crops and farms to die. That would destroy the economy. Anyone reading online will have known that agriculture takes 70% of our water supply. That's not new info. Adam, i hope you're not just trying to create shock-value publicity by rousing the public on nonsense.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Please inform yourself. Your government does not care for you or any of us. www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2017-12-13-cape-towns-water-crisis-driven-by-politics-more-than-drought/

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Naseema Barday Naseema Barday of course we don’t grow cocoa in WC 🤦🏼‍♂️😂 it’s just information to raise awareness around the true water cost of food. For most people that was pretty clear. The purpose of the video is to get opinions, although you’ve shared yours you didn’t do it in a particularly nice way

[@mom_doc]

Sorry you didn't like my comment, Adam. But i must choose to not accept your explanation as being very cogent. If your intent were to raise awareness about water consumption in food production, why make it in the setting at TWK Dam? And why the implication that water is shockingly being allowed to flow to the farms? A video about your stated intention (here in this comment) would surely have been something else altogether. Sorry, i cannot revise my opinion about sensationalism. And maybe i would add a bit of irresponsibility on your part to my comment too, given the hard time farmers are having anyway.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Naseema Barday understood and I respect your right to an opinion 👍🏻

[@haikonieuwoudt6373]

Of course he isn't just trying to create shock-value publicity. He's also trying to get that ad revenue by monetising this video. Just look at that clickbait title.

[@barryhorn6852]

Three things come to mind. One: Thee Waterskloof dam was paid for by farmers, for irrigation purposes, and then the Guv stole it. Two: this dam was not designed for rain water inflow, but well for catching snow-melt. Three: it took 5 years to fill once completed, without using water from it. It will never fill again.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Barry Horn well put, thanks

[@michaellawson6533]

This problem has been in the making for years now . In the early 90s Cape Town had about 900 000 population . Then before the elections the ANC decided to bus in about 2,5 million Black members to up its vote to take over the Cape but it failed . Those who were bused in came for free , set up masses of new squatter camps and upped the demand for water drastically. The new government was arrogant and backward and , upon being warned of this situation pending in future ( as well as Electricity Supply Commission, Eskom) , they refused to listen and since then NO NEW DAMS HAVE BEEN BUILT . Thick and arrogant and stupid , up to this day. And what do we have now ? A crisis of unknown proportions . Had those people from the homelands, where there is presently a lot of water , not been dumped here for electoral purposes and abandoned by their party who lost the elections in this part of the country , then there would be no talk of a water crisis. But with the population up 300% in 2 years , then what do you expect?

[@Alliepiggy]

So, if the people stop eating, then they will survive. Thanks for the info. Great journalism.

[@JouniKyyronen-nv1ep]

James Collins no. But how will 10 000 000 000 eat in 2050. No not like u i hope. Hope soon 3d food. 2020 time is running out

[@JoelHitchcock]

Can you share a link to the sources which reference and calculate the amounts of water it takes to make a chocolate bar etc

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Joel Hitchcock its in the description 😊

[@JoelHitchcock]

Adam Spires - Wannabe Vlogger thanks!

[@JoelHitchcock]

The Food vs Water page is not available

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Joel Hitchcock www.imeche.org/docs/default-source/reports/Global_Food_Report.pdf

[@hsmulders1]

Table 1 shows a detailed listing, from a recent Europe-based study,[37] of the water consumption figures for the processing of a wide range of food products. How about an Africa-based reference, which would be more relevant? And one from the water industry?

[@WaterlooExpat]

Several comments have questioned the veracity of the video by mentioning that South Africa does not grow cocoa (aka. chocolate) or coffee. Their complaints are legitimate. I would like to read a response by the producers.

[@haikonieuwoudt6373]

"Farms vs. humans" is possibly the dumbest line in this half-baked video - and that's saying something. Every single argument is simply insane. Humans need farms. Farms produce food, provide jobs and carry the economy. What do Cape Town farms have to do with chocolate and coffee? It's just too obvious that all these guys wanted was that sweet, sweet advertiser revenue.

[@Wirechoke]

You're missing the point. the point is animal agriculture consumes the vast majority of the water used in cape town. People do not need those foods to survive or thrive in cape town; if cape town's population went on a 100% plant based diet, the water could be reasonably rationed, yet people still want to eat meat dairy and eggs, until the water runs out. They will say, "what happened?!" well, what happened was your selfish gluttonous appetite for the worlds most resource expensive foods. You cannot blame anyone but yourselves. Veganism is the only answer to this solution. We are seeing it being played out right now.

[@zuleighasamsodien2218]

We can import food. We will die without fucking water. Don't be stupid. 60% of water going to agriculture? That makes no sense. If humans die who will buy your products? Huh?

[@haikonieuwoudt6373]

For The Pigs: "People do not need those foods to survive or thrive in cape town" That's an oversimplification. Some people do. "if cape town's population went on a 100% plant based diet, the water could be reasonably rationed" Citation needed. Jules Memphis: "We can import food." Importing takes money. Money is generated by economic activity. Economic activity includes farming to a large extent. There's no such thing as a free lunch. "We will die without fucking water." Then it's a good thing that we won't have NO water. Water is being supplied at 25l per person per day. On top of that, there are regions in SA where there are no restrictions. On top of that, Bonaqua and other water companies are increasing their supply chain to meet the increasing demand. Stop spreading fear and learn to adapt. Be grateful that we even have running water as such a system is a miracle to begin with. "If humans die who will buy your products? Huh?" Stop being so hysterical. People are not going to die. Those same people will buy the food that is being produced, because people - surprisingly - need food to survive, and not all food can be imported (especially not without skyrocketing inflation, making it unaffordable).

[@haikonieuwoudt6373]

Language like that just proves the far-left right. Stop referring to people in such a disgusting way. All it does is shut down dialogue.

[@georgeharrison3726]

Lol you tried dialogue with these demons for 30 years. Human speech cannot solve all disputes, especially when one side has an IQ of 70. The only options are a fiery war, or a slow and agonizing death. Don't consign yourself to eternal suffering.

[@Kalliedonner]

Please take note that we, the people of the Overberg, get our water from TWK dam. In order for Overberg Water to supply us with water, they have to open the gate. It is NOT only for farms, but for the people living in the Overberg Towns. We also have water restrictions and we are in the same boat as Capetonians, so have a heart, that water is nit going to waste!!

[@zavier1304]

Farms need water to produce food...to feed people.Okay so let's have a water crisis and a food crisis,that's what's gonna happen if farms don't have water supplies.

[@poepflater]

Its the western cape, they make wine, so the question is, wine or water?

[@serif392]

Zavier 1 Without water to drink, wash, flush...very nasty scenario don't you think. Particularly the no water to drink part. The severity of the situation seems to escape your understanding. And when the farmers use the last remaining drops, what then. The government has a responsibility to review their management and the often wasteful habits of many farmers.

[@zavier1304]

CheZ Zmo I did not say they should be allowed to waste.What I'm saying is,it is also important for farms to have water.Maybe we should also focus a bit more on people in the towns and cities,people are washing cars and filling their swimming pools.What is more important then?

[@zavier1304]

Nordic .I That's an idiotic statement to make.They do not only farm with grapes.What about livestock?

[@cheetahcheetah3756]

Xavier. agree with u. its not as if farmers are just wasting water into swimming pools etc. and there is hundreds of other type farmers like dairy etc. and they don't hav muni taps like in towns. and those wine farmers contribute to SA economy.

[@abdullahkauchali3896]

Yoh, never been slapped around like that for a subscription. Subscribed! Keep up the good work!

[@cccmmm1234]

You're being disingenuous. Nobody is growing coffee of chocolate in the Western Cape. The beef numbers are worst case for feedlot raised cattle like they do in USA. The numbers for chicken include all the feed production - which is happening outside the Western Cape. Remember that the Khoi San people kept animals (including cattle) in the Western Cape before there was any iffigation at all.

[@russg1801]

Typical propaganda move; toss in some 'facts' will SOUND plausible to the uninitiated, but are totally irrelevant to the current discussion. In this case, people "know" that coffee and cocoa are grown 'in Africa' so the creators figure they can get away with this lie.

[@chrispaw1]

MindHunt3r exactly, most of us wouldnt know these facts and figures if people like these guys didnt tell us....we should all be made more aware of these facts and issues...

[@quisttt]

@@russg1801 listen... I am related to the creator of this video, and if you have a problem, keep it to yourself. Nobody else wants to listen to you riot.... ok? Now to follow up on your comment... like Adam commented, he was not saying that coca and coffee was produced there, he was simply making a point that we ALL need to be aware of the water am so we dont end up on a crisis like Cape Town. You just need to chill.

[@JoeSexPack]

Khoi San were there only in the wet season, right? Before irrigation they'd have to move cattle northeast for water in summer. Controversial, I guess, because it proves no permanent settlements existed near Cape Town before Dutch settlement. No water year-round until they built cisterns & reservoirs, etc.

[@cccmmm1234]

@@JoeSexPack Even though it is a desert there are quite a few streams and springs where stock could be watered. The bigger issue is that there would have been little grazing. It was fine for small nomadic bands with small amounts of stock, but insufficient to support a settled agricultural economy. There is a good reason why the strongest tribes (Zulu and Xhosa) ended up in KZN and old Transkei - these are the best natural agricultural lands in South Africa and the only major places where crops would grow without commercial irrigation technology.

[@wormwood6424]

actually an informative vid, well done guys, don't let the haters get you down lol!!

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Haters be haters, its who they are. I have no problem with people who see things differently but those trolls who insult and shout abuse...nah! :)

[@OvaryScary]

a chicken can produce 2 eggs a day.. no way one chicken drinks that much water in one day 0.o

[@paulapaularaejohnson]

In any case, like most places in the world today, the region is over populated and that surely just adds to the existing problem of water or lack thereof.

[@Utube490]

Coffee?!!?! Chocolate?!?!?!? You said the water is going to Cape Town FARMS. Produce, vegetables, fruit, etc. NO coffee or chocolate plantations. Ridiculous way to start the video. No pun intended, but you're talking apples and oranges, and in doing so making an extremely weak, illogical argument. Are you suggesting Cape Town IMPORTS all farm products?? How will Cape Town pay for it? How can consumers pay the high prices for it? How can Cape Town NOT support farming?? I normally LOVE your videos, and can't wait for the next one. No logic to this one.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

ET T the point is to make people aware of how much water it takes to make food. I know we don’t grow cocoa in CT.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Adam Spires - Wannabe Vlogger cool vid bt why not mention all the water being wasted on wine?

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Taariq M-Star 616 agreed, in hindsight I should have put that in 😊

[@taariqm-star6162]

Adam Spires - Wannabe Vlogger atleast you are making an effort. Cheers brah.

[@aMoonjAkoot]

While I understand what you're trying to say, they are mentioning other products which Cape Town does produce for itself. Truth is, that we don't have the water, and that's the point they're trying to make. If people are struggling to survive (which will be the case really soon), are we even allowed to talk about success? No we are not. If majority of Cape Townians had no food, and we were shipping out food to the rest of the world, would there be justice in that?

[@mellys9620]

Where do you guys get your information from ?? With regards to the amount of water that goes into food production .

[@tpd5109]

The biggest shocker is that SA knew this day would come 15 years ago and only started preparing last year. Coz Zuma was so busy spending our money on his damn house

[@deekaya4081]

TPD how so when DA runs the western cape? They get a lot of money for every seat they have in parliament. They don't drive fancy cars, what do they do with the money?nothing new with the infrastructure. Where does the money go? Please don't even bother mentioning the ANC because I am not a member of any political party

[@jerseyjacket100]

National government is responsible for building water projects. Provincial only for management. National government said they will not allocate any money for further water projects. No one would start saving 15 years ago, it's a struggle to get people to save now.

[@deekaya4081]

Provincial government gets a lot of money that's a fact. Do you honestly think that the DA, EFF and all those other parties would work for free?

[@rictrexell2118]

To say this this or that takes so much water does not explain where it goes. For example, it takes so many gallons or liters of water to make a quarter pound hamburger, but that water goes into a cow which urinates it out in a field. That urine then waters plants that produce crops. It depends how water is used from the first use to the last. It doesn't just disappear.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Ric Trexell very good point. The report is in the description.

[@eddyvuka2044]

Ric, you're wasting your time trying to argue with these two idiots.

[@dkanxndnsnsn5635]

They don't farm coffee or chocolate in western cape

[@serif392]

Dkanxn Dnsnsn So what, they were examples of water usage. With a functioning brain you might have noticed the bigger message.

[@RayZde]

CheZ Zmo everyone commenting on this video is missing the message. No wonder cape is in dire straits.

[@GREGPRETORIUS]

Adam!! Hi Adam!! Im all the way here from Pretoria, following your videos and what a legend you are!!! Listen, Cape town went through a rough water drought, and now Pretoria is receiving water restrictions. Why cant you make a video to teach us South Africa the Cape town way of saving water! You’re most probably receiving thousands of video suggestions but this is of crucial importance for our country! Thanks Greggy

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Greg Pretorius awesome idea! I’ll try do it! Thanks brother

[@gordonrichardson2972]

I came here to tell you how ridiculous your video is, but others have already done so. I wish you had kept on topic, and produced something of value that I could commend to others. About 10% is true and useful, half is partly true but misleading, and the rest is flat wrong. The downstream release was something that I had not seen before, and worth watching. The figures for water consumed in food production are dominated by wet countries in the Northern Hemisphere, and are no way representative of farming practices in the Cape and SA. As others have pointed out, the majority of products mentioned in the video have nothing to do with the water from Theewaterskloof. Some products mentioned are produced elsewhere in the country, but without irrigation water. You also forgot to mention those that are, mostly fruit and wine. I am old enough to remember some of the history of Theewaterskloof. It was primarily built for irrigation, but the demand for water has increased to the point where Cape Town now takes the majority. Perhaps this kind of point is too subtle for a video?

[@daklekwaterdigting1992]

Gordon Richardson Seems this topic might be too od for a misguided mind to where water goes and what farmers need. Ilk tell you this much... I know water that pour from my hose into the garden from my borehole but in much faster phase goes through a vain towards the ocean. The lads might have a point here oubaas yet we know chocolate produce aren't even close to a comparison. Heres a figure: Lets implimant recourses to utilise underground water allready flowing underground (using allready long stolen tax payers money) for farming... Dams are and always been there for reserve, isnt it why we built dams is the first place? Ps: Off the log ill tell you that atleast 70% of the water released from the sluices are going to the ocean...

[@nikosadie]

well said!

[@philmissy1]

You are a fucking idiot.

[@margiewhitelaw2543]

Where is the chocolate factory of reasonable proportion?

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Read the report I quote in the description and then come back

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

The same thing's been happening with the Colorado River water in the American west! I read somewhere that it takes a gallon of water to produce a pat of butter.

[@martinbabl1635]

As farmers in the Western Cape we are thinking twice before investing in this region again, especially after this "alternative fact" vlog.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

You do what is best for you

[@dineshharpal361]

do the chickens in cape stay under water "196 liters " to produce an egg. what happened to free range.

[@JH-ex6yi]

Where are you getting your stats.. ?!

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

J H please check description 😊

[@zeituberalas]

Hello, California. Grape growers are sucking up water on the Central Coast. Some places in Paso Robles get nothing when they turn on the tap.

[@AntowanNothling]

Mostly BS. You have to let water continue to run downstream to keep the ecosystems alive.... Before that dam was built, the streams ran through there.... Before humans even farted around in that part of the world for the first time... So stop talking nonsense.... Urgh! If only scientists, engineers and other specialists in the water management sector had the time to record really informative videos we won't all be pretend know it alls.... I like your video. But it is so off base it is filed under fiction....

[@colinduncan2458]

What's happening in the winter that it's not raining enough to fill these resovoirs up,, this is like something out of a movie,, water rationing in a major city in a fairly rich country makes no sense

[@manu-bq8mx]

This video is unfortunately very misguided. We don't grow coffee or cacao. A cow lives for a few years before it is slaughtered, no? so it's not like all that water is being used in one go. As you guys even mentioned, the farms support many employees and their families, and all of those people in cape town need to eat, don't they? Now, imagine if the water was cut off and food prices spiked? So my question is, what is the point of the video? The water is going to the farms, yes, that's been established, but why complain about the water needed for cheese, chocolate, beef, etc....?

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

manu55 facebook.com/adamspiresvlogger/videos/987762831374516/

[@roadtrippinnomad7637]

With those six major dams, I wonder how much of the surface water evaporates with each day, week and month??? I'm sure that alone would be a huge number. Take Care ~ God Bless

[@jontheb123]

To be fair, the bulk of that water will go to wine or apple farms - that's what is primarily grown in the Cape. That said, if you start arguing that way, you need to take it to its logical conclusion. Shut down all the wineries and breweries. Shut down the tourist industry - we can't spare the water. All drastic steps, but all may be required in time. Flip side of that coin - job losses, drastic spike in crime etc. Let's hope they can bring those desalination plants online asap!

[@taariqm-star6162]

You're right about the wine farms but desalination is not the answer Cape Town needs... we're not a fossil fuel producing country.. heck we're not even a rich country.

[@martinbabl1635]

So coal is not a fossil fuel? Desalination is probably the only sustainable way ahead for Cape Town. Couple it with Solar Power and your sorted.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Martin Babl "Washington, DC-Food & Water Watch today released a new report that reveals that ocean desalination, an emerging technology often promoted by private corporations as a solution to drought and water shortages, creates a myriad of environmental and social problems. Desalination: An Ocean of Problems finds that Desalination-the process of removing salt from seawater to make it drinkable, carries a high price tag, releases unregulated chemicals into drinking water supplies, uses large amounts of energy, pollutes waterways, and threatens fisheries and marine environments, among other drawbacks. “Private companies are marketing desalination as a long-term solution to water shortages. In reality, they are taking advantage of communities where impending water crises are leading water managers to believe they must adopt extreme measures,” said Wenonah Hauter, executive director, Food & Water Watch. “Desalination is a risky water supply option that actually creates more problems than it solves.” Desalination: An Ocean of Problems reports the following findings: Desalination is expensive. Although the price tag varies by region and is often obscured by corporate underestimates and government subsidies, it is more often two to four times as costly as traditional options. Desalination is bad for the environment and human health. The by-products of desalination include coagulalants, bisulfates, and chlorines. When concentrated waste is dumped into the ocean as it is with desalination, it is harmful to marine life and environments. Furthermore, power plants’ intake mechanisms, which are often teamed with desalination plants, kill at least 3.4 billion fish and other marine organisms annually. In addition to upsetting marine environments, desalination causes fishermen to lose at least 165 million pounds of fish a year today and 717.1 million pounds of potential future catch. Desalted water also puts drinking water supplies at risk because seawater contains chemicals such as boron, that freshwater does not. Boron, only 50 to 70 percent of which is removed through the desalination process, has been found to cause reproductive problems and developmental problems in animals and irritation of the human digestive track. Current drinking water regulations do not protect the public from boron. Desalination contributes to global climate change and requires large amounts of energy. Removing salt from large volumes of water takes nine times as much energy as surface water treatment and 14 times as much energy as groundwater protection. Emissions created by desalination plants contribute to climate change, a leading factor of the droughts and water shortages the process is intended to mitigate. Desalination turns water into a commodity. Private corporations are investing in desalination because it is a leading growth area in the global water market. As water becomes a scarcer commodity, global corporations are setting themselves up to sell water for a profit. Furthermore, private control of water makes in much harder to ensure public safety. “Policy makers can better provide the public with safe, affordable water by implementing conservation measures to protect water supplies. It is up to the government to ensure the integrity of this vital natural resource. It should not be left to private corporations more concerned with revenue than service delivery,” said Hauter. ” www.foodandwaterwatch.org/news/ocean-desalination-no-solution-water-shortages

[@martinbabl1635]

Please use up to date sources. The report you are quoting from is 9 years old and the sources which that report is using were already 1-6 years old when the report was released. Other than desalination the city should be looking at recycling its sewage which it is currently releasing into the ocean. Either way Capetonians will be paying more per liter of water in the future. @Taariq M-Star 616

[@taariqm-star6162]

Martin Babl no need when the article explains clearly the major errors in desalination. You are wrong to assume desalination as the most sustainable solution to water management. We have enough here for everyone if only we managed our resources correctly and if there were less corruption in our country to allow proper infrastructure to allow these changes instead of being reliant on government or corporations. Since this has not worked well for us in the past.

[@AlexS-oj8qf]

Or maybe the water will turn salty if it sits without any outlets?

[@barryhofmeyr4486]

1. Teewaterkloof dam was build for agricultural use not for human consumption.2. If farmers don't get water to grow crops or water for their animals WE will die of starvation.3. Agriculture is the largest provider labour. 4. VEGANS. I was interested in planting vegetables on part of my farm and went to see an old friend of mine that's been farming vegetables for +40 years and he said 5000L per hectare. If plant seedlings NOT seeds it takes on average 90 days before you can harvest. 90 days x 24 hours x 5000L = 10 800 000L of water to produce 1 hectare of vegetables and you still have not added water for sprouting the seeds and to produce fertilizer and also to produce pesticides.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Nonsense Theewaterskloof Dam not only for agricultural use. "The dam mainly serves for municipal and industrial use as well as for irrigation purposes." - Wikipedia. Read Article: www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2017-12-13-cape-towns-water-crisis-driven-by-politics-more-than-drought/

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Barry Hofmeyr that’s a very interesting point

[@gordonrichardson2972]

Taariq M-Star 616 Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia. Theewaterskloof was built primarily for irrigation. As the demand for water in the City of Cape Town increased, the allure of this water became irresistible. We now have the point where urban users assume their entitlement to water supersedes those farmers for whom the dam was originally built. This kind of conflict is similar to the Water Wars that took place around Los Angeles in the last century.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Gordon Richardson, thanks for the info. Was built before my time and was led to believe that it was built for a variety of reasons besides agricultural use. The main fact remains we still have huge, greedy imbeciles in charge of highly important elements of resource. Something needs to be done here, just not sure what? No one here has the answers but atleast we are asking the right questions, clearly and coherently. Thanks for your input.

[@sukisumile4527]

Turn it off at 6am turn it on at A 12 AM. Balance half farm half people

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Good idea, they have actually turned it off since the video came out.

[@antoniodacosta3184]

Might be wrong but don’t those farms attract tourists and arnt they like one of the main sources of income

[@jzk2020]

Drip irrigation + Vertical Farming... and you could save 90% of the water you are currently "wasting".

[@Stikker021]

I think that seed stock should be preserved while obtaining the food bulk from other regions of the country unaffected by drought. By seed stock, I mean fruit trees, vines, etc., and breeding animals. All other livestock should be slaughtered for their food. Harch but realistic.

[@benwilson1088]

Do you realize how many years it would take to rebuild the herds or regrow a tree to a producing age?

[@Stikker021]

About as many years as it is going to take us to get out of this hole we are in now. The (severe) water restrictions are here to stay for at least 3 to 8 years and then a few more years thereafter until our dams get full. This is assuming that our government, whether national or regional, implement alternate water sources like groundwater (not ideal), sewerage water filtration (Windhoek has been doing it for many, many years already) or desalination.

[@benwilson1088]

Yes, but are they going to be able to start rebuilding until the problem is solved? Going over a decade (end of problem plus the time to recover) without producing will bankrupt those farms. I'm not an expert on South Africa, but isn't that area the most productive of the country?

[@Stikker021]

Yes, one of the flower kingdoms of the world too. Don't get me wrong, but there are going to be a LOT of businesses going out of business, like laundromats, car washes, etc., and many other businesses dependent on water. I am not the one to come up with solutions but I will definitely fan the flames to get people who usually sit on the sidelines thinking and coming up with solutions.

[@benwilson1088]

I'm just watching the problem (similar to California in a lot of ways), South Africa doesn't use the word watersheds (drainage basins for land areas) and I can't find a good map. Do you happen to know the word?

[@LRMay]

Well farmes are very important. But i guess they should half close the slus to further rashion the water till we complete the desalination plant.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

L.R.M. Productions that’s one option 👍🏻

[@米空軍パイロット]

Adam Spires - Wannabe Vlogger That's how the farms die.

[@kristenvanschie6174]

This was astoundingly badly done. If you're going to insist on making viral videos, do your viewers the courtesy of doing thorough research. And no, two links in not "thorough". In the very least, try to accurately and contextually communicate the bare bones information you do have. You failed on both counts.

[@kristenvanschie6174]

Eddie McMullen Thanks for that well-argued response, Eddie! I think it's important that viewers know when they're being presented with nonsense information, as is the case here. Not watching or engaging doesn't help with that. So I'd rather watch, leave the comment, and endure folks like yourself than just let this misinformation float on unchallenged. As a citizen, you would feel outraged by political misinformation and expect it to be challenged -- but that counts for other platforms, too. Storytellers like this are making money through YOUR views. I happen to think that means they should go about it responsibly. I look forward to another engaging comment from you!

[@JimCTSCLO]

You will not get intelligent responses from the Eddies of the worlds. I liked the beginning with the simple question, why? After that, they rambled on with information that I can hardly say was data driven.

[@RayZde]

Did we miss the point of the video? Sheesh, I thought they were on point and funny. Let me put in plain text: human consumption, commercialism, is wasteful to the point self destruction.

[@Habitatti]

So do you actually have anything to criticize or are you just mouthing off? Did you actually read the source cited? What information did you think was misinformed or just plain wrong in the video?

[@mattcope9259]

Idiotic and ignorant response, it is factual and invites debate on something very pressing and important....how about offering a solution rather than just whining for the sake of it.

[@beastlyendeavour9184]

Is anyone doing a rain dance? So what you are saying is it's better to starve than to die of dehydration? It's nice to see those taps running continuously.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Anthony Lee personally I think that farmers need to water and it’s a Balance.

[@AdamStander69]

So you delete the comments you don't like because they don't support your view? Either that or my previous comment never happened at all. I don't know where you got your "facts" but 1 egg = 196l of water, or 150g chocolate = 2580l of water. Please show us your sources on this, because I call bullshit. Your trying to make a point, great, make it without scaremongering, lying and vilifying a certain group of people. Yes, Cape Town has a major problem regarding water and a big part of the reason for that problem is politics, both ANC and DA. Why don't you go and vlog about that instead of jumping on the bandwagon of making farmers the scapegoats. Or are you just fishing for views like so many other KZbinrs?

[@taariqm-star6162]

It is a pity he has targeted the poor struggling farmers and meat eaters instead of the real issue here. The dumb politicians.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Never deleted anything. Go check the source I used then attack that if you think you know better. Saying that who the hell do you think you are sitting there judging me and you don’t even know me. You’re bordering a troll here.

[@AdamStander69]

Correction from my side, I made a Facebook comment and thought it was here.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Adam Stander sorry if my comment was too harsh Adam. I should engage in a better way. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 😊

[@BUDROFTY]

3:44 minutes of kak facts makes 3million cancer cells in the brain ... give idiots a drone ... some weed ... some fake news facts and this is what you get.

[@rab6453]

like california desalination .here the farmers get 80% plus .now they are sucking aguifer dry.at least seawater is closeby.not landlocked like some.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Good point!

[@GoodKarma1020]

Wow!!! I had no clue Cape Town was this bad. 😳. I only heard in Canadian news this was even a problem. I take 20 min showers 🚿 and never think about water running out. I heard somewhere, Canada is a country that uses a tremendous amount of water, I would have to research this more. Anyway, gosh this is really awful for you folks. I hope it doesn't come down to the "taps" being shut off..., 😞

[@marvellousmelie319]

Doesn’t matter if Canada is water rich wasteful living is a sin in any religion and it makes others upset to see ignorant comment like “I take 20min showers” what are you? It’s like eating a cake in front of starving children and saying I usually chuck half this away but it’s ok we have so much food in my house . It is wrong .

[@ismailjeewa977]

D Ishappywithlife Everytime you spend 20 mins In the shower , please think of others around the world who don't have a cup of water that's good to drink. Humble request. ... cut down the long showers. Not for me... for humanity and firstly for the pleasure of your Creator

[@tyronnejacobs7249]

19Lion8 6 - 7 minute showers are even long... Take a bird bath, shower once a week for a 90 sec.

[@poepflater]

I grew up in the winelands, and running out of water has also never even been the faintest possibility until it happened.

[@durrhurr55]

There is also a white genocide going on in South Africa, Google "Rhodesia farmer" or research Suidlanders and the boers

[@designbyarie2914]

It is your own fault here in Israel agricuture uses for a large part recycled water yes the waster from the drain in not lot but Treated.You can thank BDS for not having it in Capetown as help was offered and turned down.As for vegan the last time I knew that Vegies also need water so the answer may be a 100% SeaFood only Diet.

[@lukejb5425]

In my opinion, the problem lies in us as humanity, many individuals & business's waste vast amounts of natural resources through continuously choosing the most convenient way out of all situations for example too tired to cook get a Mcdonalds, KFC, Nando's, Chinese whatever the case may be it is usually food farmed in an unsustainable way to fuel unsustainable food consumption for an unsustainable population producing unsustainable food waste and unsustainable waste packaging. Though humanity is the problem, humanity can also be the solution. I was at that spillway a few weeks ago and fully understand it has to go to farmland, as people have to eat however in order to solve the problem new approached to farming & consumption should be embraced as they are in more progressive developed nations of the world. (natural fertilisers, conservative water use, recycled water use, correct water catchment, permaculture farming, natural farming, recyclable packaging, recycling as a whole, choosing product on the shelf that are farmed in the correct ethical manner... there is so much more) But overall its the mindset of the people, us as humans. Some great comment points i see in the comments below

[@itsnotmeitsyou2]

Luke JB the "problem" is fucking virtue-signalling fuckheads like you.

[@lukejb5425]

great comment phantom account. if you cannot say anything constructive don't waste the oxygen!

[@カスカディア国人]

Luke JB it’s quite sad that these people are unable to see that we need to change, maybe you and I have major disagreements on how to go about fixing this, but at least we both recognize the problem and don’t pin things on scapegoats. Our resources are mismanaged, this is the world’s problem, in America where I’m from we produce enough food to feed the world at least 3 times over, but most of it is wasted in factory farms which put major strain on the environment, that in combination with the way we grow the crops puts out a lot of pollution and heats up the planet, so when South Africa has a problem, managing its resources, and a drought on top, it’s worse than it would be otherwise, it’s very complicated, and most people are incapable of seeing that a lot of these issues we face today are interconnected, and a lot of them are rooted in greed.

[@bryanwalters1041]

Luke JB - haha. Yea, because that will make it rain more.

[@willemscott2128]

So there is being coco and chocolate produced in the Western Cape? I want to understand more about the contexts of your facts. As far as what I understand of how farming operations work is that calves and chickens are slaughtered in a slaughtering house? not on the farms. This water usage numbers is for irrigation purposes?

[@chino2605]

Moral to the story ladies?, stay to this chocolate *Shows people his brown skin colour* That's quite funny actually xD

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Purrito And Kitty lol you’re the first person to mention that lol

[@BC-li6zc]

They knew about the water problem back in 2004. No one did anything. It's not the farmers fault.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

B C apparently so

[@johanviv]

annoying click-bait

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Johan V then move on 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Hooverdarnit]

I feel pretty lucky. There's at least 500 trillion gallons of fresh water within 15 miles from me and that's just surface water. Underground water is probably many times that. Where do I live? Central Minnesota USA.

[@Bluhcops]

hahahaha stay to this chocolate. thats awesome lmao.

[@evilreddog]

why not do like Israel and get salt water purification plants? You get fresh water and can sell the salt afterwards, if paired with a recycling filter even be able to filter out plastics to clean out the local ocean

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

evilreddog the government is trying and failing 😡

[@lordaromat3890]

Isreal has the support of USA

[@Africansightings]

great video. dont worry about the haters focusing on the chocolate and missing the whole point. #prayforcapetown

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Brad I know right 🤦🏼‍♂️😊

[@nancysmith7892]

this was great! I loved it ! you two did good!😀😀😀

[@jandupreez4880]

Your video is shifting blame for the water crisis from the incompetent politicians of Cape Town to farmers. (Intentionally or not) It is completely idiotic to suggest that farmers and downstream communities should be punished so that people in the city have enough water, it is the responsibility of the city of Cape Town and the DA politicians in charge there to provide enough water or stop the rampant development that you see all over the city bringing in more water users. It is your duty as the voters of the City of Cape Town to make them understand you are upset and will not tolerate it. Please don't shift the blame elsewhere.

[@nikosadie]

mooi gestel Jan.

[@deekaya4081]

Thank you, finally someone who talks the truth👏👏👏

[@SkitZGZA]

I get what you are saying but the real problem is the warnings for this water crisis should have been advertised over 4 years ago. We can only blame this countries management and failure to prevent this cause.

[@SkitZGZA]

MindHunt3r Ye we used 1000 litres and we being charged way more than we should simply countries fault and now they using this for more money.

[@merlinbotha363]

MindHunt3r it could have been avoided had those in charge taken the necessary precentative steps a decade ago when this droight pattern was forecasted , instead spending on i could only assume a new mercedes and a holiday home in Hermanus.

[@mmorin8180]

Yes the people have to have priority water before any others, your exposure is first of its kind wich manages to simplify the extremely complex politics of water, and who is wasting it, Merci Bravo

[@christiangerhardt2408]

Loads of strawmen lots of loop holes and a hell of a lot of open endings.

[@thefatmansgarage8570]

i can understand that if they don't water crops, there will be no money or food to support the economy... BUT if there is no one to work in those areas just because the water is so scarce then this would be called a double whammy.. so instead plan an emergency sanction building for aeroponics... not only does it take much much less water but the excess water can be recycled back into the system instead of going back into the river... that way you'll save farm land, have water for the animals to create food, and youd still have water for human consumption. yes it would take a great deal of money but the overall saving of water can be beneficial in the long run.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

The Fat Man's Garage that was my main concern. Farms/economy are vital

[@Hhunted]

What a stupid video. Clearly created to cause hype and non factual relevant information was given. No Coffee and chocolates are produced in the area. Fruit & Vegetables are the main farming practice in the specific area. Pathetic attempt to get people to watch this video and get money from the ads that is shown!!

[@taariqm-star6162]

Bet you will never mention wine

[@Hhunted]

Oh please, you are grabbing at straws. The point is that idiots like this poster just want to create hype to get views and money. He doesn't give a hoot, if he did he would have done his research and not link the water of that dam to chocs and coffee... That area grows mostly deciduous fruit, go look it up, you might learn something.

[@taariqm-star6162]

No sir I agree

[@taariqm-star6162]

I would like to add that I live in the area my man and wine is one of our major agricultural areas of production, especially for export purposes. This is not a natural issue, it's a human/political issue. Follow the money or power then you will really understand what's happening not only here but the whole of SA and the entire world. Read this article then you will clearly understand our situation here: www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2017-12-13-cape-towns-water-crisis-driven-by-politics-more-than-drought/

[@Hhunted]

Well you probably focused on wine, since it's probably against your religion. Been in the fruit industry for the past 19 years. The industry supplies both export and local markets, albeit different grade of fruit and produce. I fear you intent is just political orientated and just want to jump on the bandwagon since it's suit your need and support a video like this lacking of factual information.

[@pietervdmerwe84]

We have a small stonefruit farm in the Western Cape. Currently we give more or less 70 workers an income. That means conservatively more than 200 dependants. Any idea how many people that represent in the Western Cape? Cut the water for other's convenience? Think again. You still have to eat...?

[@joeblack4436]

Oh come now. We all know fruit farming is economically important. But we also know most of it is exported. And that in the Western Cape's two major Water Management Areas water use is completely dominated by farming. Essentially the Western Cape is shipping a large portion of it's water overseas. Not attacking you, but to imply that we will not be able to eat without the farms downstream of Theewaterskloof is disingenuous at best. Sure no apple a day, but rice, potatoes, bread, meat, etc. will still be on the table. If a bit more expensive in the minority of cases. Also a person can, heaven forbid, go for up to 40 days without food, but after maximum 10 days without water it's tickets. Most people would not last a week.

[@glsmadaful]

I'm glad you guys are on to something... maybe you should consider looking into the 2030 agenda as well...

[@taariqm-star6162]

Yes! All part of Agenda 21 and the draconian order of global domination over energy, water, food and money. Goodbye freedom hello "Brave New World".

[@tomtom4633]

Gavin Adams Same thing happened in USA, all the water was let right out and dams emptied check out jimstonefreelance.com or 82.221.129.208/.zj0.html to find Jims article on it link here 82.221.129.208/sanjoaquin.html "Dams drained on purpose"

[@pjlindeque7944]

Where is the pipe line bringing water from the north of South Africa to the Cape? There is so much rain that dams are overflowing.

[@nickyoung1961]

where on earth did you get those water to food ratio;s from, a chook lays an egg a day and drinks hardly any water,

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

nickyoung1961 it’s not about drinking it’s about the water it takes to grow feed and produce everything etc etc. Read the report in the description

[@stronzer59]

Based on the info in this Vid , water must be free for farmers? Because is the quoted info is correct food would be unaffordable at city water prices.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Ed Evans farmers get a very different rate to residential properties.

[@blhtml]

My mind was already blown away when you say the dam was open

[@mitchellwalker9839]

They should introduce a day every week where u have to eat like a vegetarian.

[@andrewbeverley109]

Check out the cities weekly dashboard report 29/1/2018. (download from page www.capetown.gov.za/Family%20and%20home/residential-utility-services/residential-water-and-sanitation-services/this-weeks-dam-levels) There you will see on the first page a graph on the right showing the farmers apparent disregard for the planned usage. They are using water just like they used in the past. I think most of their water comes from TWK. Berg River dam has now shut off water outlet to the river

[@blueberryhill6948]

I have an issue with the packaging for the chicken, couldnt you have removed the pick n pay logo's

[@fionatanzer5270]

since when do we grow coffee beans and cacao trees in the Cape. What a specious argument!

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Fiona Tanzer this will provide clarity facebook.com/adamspiresvlogger/videos/987762831374516/

[@brucefarm1]

So you stop using the water for farm, then what will you eat?

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Bruce Farmer stopping water to farmers who produce food for us is not the answer. But what is?

[@markenriquez1486]

So instead of using ridiculous amounts of water to produce food for human consumption, what do you suggest people eat? Eachother? Is the epoch of Soylent Green upon us?

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

facebook.com/adamspiresvlogger/videos/987762831374516/

[@wormwood6424]

farms or uranium mines ??

[@BrahFaShaw]

Is there a way to desalinate water without damaging the surrounding ocean, seems like a technology we desperately need to improve on

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Yeh they are building them now but it will only supply 25% of the needed water :(

[@biblestudysoftware]

BrahFaShaw It sort of depends upon how polluted the source water is. The big issue with non-polluting desalination plants, is that they are extremely expensive to construct. Once built, the major factor in pricing the water is the outstanding debt. Before construction begins, you’ll be fighting all of the utility companies, the entire health industry, the mining companies, and every politician.(Give each politician ZAR100,000,000, and their opposition will go away. You could pay every candidate for every political office in South Africa (including every EFF and ANC supporter) that much, and still end up with not much more than a rounding error of the total construction costs.)

[@taariqm-star6162]

Desalination is not an appropriate solution for a country like South Africa which does not produce it's own fuel sources beyond coal. Desalination is way too expensive, inefficient and poisons our environment, exasperating the very drought in which it was meant to alleviate. Most methods implemented by government are centralized solutions which have little consideration for individuals or the environment, due to it being run by greedy corporations who are more concerned with profit than human safety or social ethics. Water is being made into a scarce resource in order for it to be incorporated and privatized by big government and big business. Do we really need these outdated techniques which offer little in terms of personal benefit or positive economic and environmental impact? There are way better ways in which each home can become self sustainable with each family having the capacity to become self reliant instead of being fully reliant on a government hell bent on controlling every social and geopolitical aspect of our lives with little to no conviction towards the responsibilities their occupation entails. Here I have included various different methods in which grey or brackish contaminated water can be treated at each home, in turn building on closed self sufficient systems instead of outdated inefficient, capitalistic methods meant to benefit big business instead of the public or individuals at large. Multifunctional Three-Dimensional Chitosan/Gold Nanoparticle/Graphene Oxide Architecture for Separation, Label-Free SERS Identification of Pharmaceutical Contaminants, and Effective Killing of Superbugs. pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acssuschemeng.7b01351 Reverse osmosis desalination of chitosan cross-linked graphene oxide/titania hybrid lamellar membranes. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27232262/ Water purification by polymer nanocomposites: an overview www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/20550324.2017.1329983

[@biblestudysoftware]

Taariq M-Star 616 Whilst desalination is expensive, it is the only viable solution to southern africa’s perennial, critical water shortage. Back in the 1970’s an organisation in Cape Town exploring autonomous houses, concluded that due to insufficient rain, they would be impossible to construct, and maintain, and still meet the core criteria that defined an autonomous house. Critics of that study pointed to the plethora of farms, to be rebuffed by how empty the farmers dams usually were, and how those farmers rationed the water in their rain tanks.

[@taariqm-star6162]

Desalination in its current form is not the most suitable or sustainable solution to SA's drought problems. It's energy intensive, inefficient, expensive, unsustainable and toxic to the environment while exasperating the very drought meant to be alleviated. Desalination is not meant to "alleviate" drought at all nor provide inexpensive sustainable water to the public, (a resource meant to be free) instead it provides only profit to corporations and corrupt government officials, privatizing and incorporating to provide total control of freely available resources like water, which is the life blood of communities and individuals in favor of the corrupt and greedy collectivist state. I have one question, if autonomous housing were not possible here due to low expected rain levels, then how do astronauts maintain their water supplies in space?

[@babyrazor6887]

so how are those desalination plants working out?

[@chowdertime9491]

This needs to go viral

[@wildmanofthenorth1598]

dredge the area while the water is low and when it fills up there will be a larger supply!

[@gardengirl6799]

It takes one gallon of water to grow one almond in California. Vegans use up tons of water too.

[@linedanzer4302]

LOL @ 1:54 when he says, "Ladies, stay to THIS chocolate!" :-)

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Siv cracks me up

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Siv cracks me up

[@linedanzer4302]

I love, love, love his sense of humor!!

[@figfarmer]

Funny, but living where I do it is not possible for me to conceive of a water shortage. Lake Ontario is not likely to go dry.

[@davereid-daly2205]

The Theewaters dam is not Cape Towns main drinking water source for a start and yes farming has reduced the natural ecological sponge that would still be producing water. In addition how anyone is permitted to farm so close to a river, like is done here in South Africa is quite surprising.

[@susantagoudagouda3873]

What is the things that water supply department missed like every year they have their plan for realising water .

[@sheehanhewitt]

Can you guys do a video of the affected area? Just thought that be quite interesting

[@poepflater]

We need the water for the people. Government could long ago have started with brownouts similar to what we did with power so life could tick on. When water stops without resumption, how will you go to the toilet? How manny people are in your town ? Where will they go to the toilet? You can still buy water for drinking and cooking.

[@willemscott2128]

What you are trying to say is if I cut out 1kg of beef in a week, I will save Cape town 15,415 liters?

[@thepaxster1]

A lot can be save by using indoor farming for all the smaller vegetables. I understand this isn't possible for corn and wheat, bit for lettuce, spinach, tomatoes, kale, strawberries, etc it can be done very efficiently. Government and farmers should work together to build this up.

[@19531114]

And i suppose lentils, soya and other vegetarian / vegan foods do not use any water ??

[@dadikkedude]

do you want to starve or dehydrate?

[@pauld8156]

Simple. Move down stream where all the waster is going. Plus it sounds like there is a lot of chocolate and wine down stream. What more could could you want, chocolate, wine, water and chickens.

[@arushidc5702]

now that's a real eye-opener i hope the gov finds water from somewhere and everything becomes like before

[@fcvdbergh2037]

Die twee dink hul is slim, daar is baie meer as plase en boere wat daai water gebruik . Mens sien diudelik hul onkunde.

[@ma12sh]

your government should have invested in de sal plants before waiting till things go dry

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Marsh agreed

[@robdawg7183]

What are you gonna eat if you don’t water your crops

[@vanessahaileka9908]

Thanks for the video guys. It is an eye opener, I work in biotech, food processing ect, and yes, there is a lot of water that goes down to make good food reach your plate. This just means that a lot of work needs to be done to maintain the balance across all factors of maintaining our lives, and all of us should do our part.

[@buffalovalley5586]

How do they work out that 1 eggs takes so much water? Cant be correct

[@adriaanserrao2016]

jes it should be open

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Adriaan Serrao maybe a mix...but since the release of this video it’s been closed.

[@maikelwarmerdam8911]

If you would take massive pumps and refill the lake again but now with salt water from the ocean. Then completely cover it in plastic.. I wonder, could you harvest enough condensation droplets to supply the city? Maybe worth a study :P

[@ignorthepain]

Every one is at the taps for water after they are gone the water still runs no one shuts it off for a second.

[@dog9970]

Farms or protecting the river eco system downstream? A usual place most farms tend to establish themselves on. It’s makes sense to me for environmental reasons shutting down the damn 100% would be illegal if that water system never experienced total dry out during the year.

[@AdamSpiresWannabeVlogger]

Good point, and very well put! :)