Admiral Gorshkov Class: Deadliest Frigate Ever Built

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Eurasia Naval Insight

Eurasia Naval Insight

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@nostradamus2642
@nostradamus2642 2 жыл бұрын
A very well designed and efficiently packaged frigate packing a huge punch for a ship of such a small displacement. Problem is 🇷🇺 shipbuilding capacity is so weak.
@remliqa
@remliqa 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnoelfranks1124 Assuming the Russians win, that is.
@ulikemyname6744
@ulikemyname6744 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnoelfranks1124 So far the advancing direction of the Russian armed forces is backwards
@tuomasandersson3889
@tuomasandersson3889 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnoelfranks1124 yeah, kinda doubt that.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 Жыл бұрын
ship building capacity isnt as weak as you think
@generalgabrielsatori
@generalgabrielsatori Жыл бұрын
Kiev-class battle carrier and Kirov-class battlecruiser sitting in the corner: *sip wine “You don’t know what they can really do when they’re serious.”
@JD-dm1uj
@JD-dm1uj 2 жыл бұрын
The AG is definitely the best frigate in the world at the moment, even the FFG(X) will fall short of it, unfortunately. I’m surprised the PRC didn’t do more with the Type 054A/Bs.
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 2 жыл бұрын
the type054 series were made to be cheap and mass producable since at the time china's navy lacked any modern warships. It set the baseline for the modern chinese navy.
@felixhanisch4005
@felixhanisch4005 2 жыл бұрын
I would rank FFG(X) higher than AG: Constellation has significantly more advanced sensors (Radar and EW), can carry more missiles (due to quad-packing ESSM, which is equivalent/superior to redut and having 16 NSM) and has a significantly superior ASW capability with an Variable-Depth Sonar which AG lacks completely and a SH-60+ MQ-8 combination (SH-60 being a heavier, more capable helicopter than Ka-27)
@JD-dm1uj
@JD-dm1uj 2 жыл бұрын
@@felixhanisch4005 Definitely agree on these points, though it severely lacks in its SSM capabilities, 16x NSMs are decent, though extremely limited range and very antiquated compared to what Russia and China are fielding.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little surprised the PLAN acquired so many Type 054A frigates as well. I guess they are still quite good for ASW escorts, and are OK in mid-range air defence. Type 054B definitely needs to come soon though
@franksantos9937
@franksantos9937 2 жыл бұрын
ßß
@multipolarworldorder
@multipolarworldorder 2 жыл бұрын
Very good journalism and information report
@johnbodman4504
@johnbodman4504 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the better the missiles, the more relevant these small surface ships are. If Russian frigates can now carry the missile firepower that previously needed a destroyer, then money can be saved and more frigates can be built. There is a lot to be said, by concentrating on numerous surface missile ships and of course submarines, compared to spending money on the hugely expensive aircraft carriers and their escort fleet. As missile quality improves, the more redundant aircraft carriers become.
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
Actually very true.
@MuffHam
@MuffHam 2 сағат бұрын
A USA carrier group at maximum alert level. Couldn't stop Russias newest missile. That one Russia lunched at Ukraine and looked like the fingers of God coming down. Traveling at Mach 11 just the kinetic force is enough to cause massive damage.
@slkiller07
@slkiller07 2 жыл бұрын
A long awaited videoMuch appreciated explanation
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@milsimmaniac711
@milsimmaniac711 2 жыл бұрын
you should do a video on project 22350m "super gorshkov" a larger version of this that russia wants to build
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for suggestion
@Lalramkumhlunsitlhou25300
@Lalramkumhlunsitlhou25300 2 жыл бұрын
We would also love videos of Indian frigates....as i know india has operated one of the heaviest frigates in the world
@garyscotman8560
@garyscotman8560 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation , the 3S14 VLS launchers also supports the use of Otvet anti-submarine missiles with a range of 50km carrying either a warhead containing a 400mm depth charge or UMGT-1 electric torpedo.
@geopoliticsjunkie4114
@geopoliticsjunkie4114 2 жыл бұрын
Totally happy to have a new video from you . i needed a distraction form watching DPR LPR voting to join Russia.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@aryankhandelwal787
@aryankhandelwal787 2 жыл бұрын
Upgraded talwar class will have 8 VLS for brahmos , and 24 for SAM probably shtil1 with 4k ton displacement , tbf now differentiating b/w a frigate and destroyer is getting difficult , we have 6k ton delhi class destroyer and 6.8k ton niligiri class frigate
@guarana-suquinho
@guarana-suquinho 4 ай бұрын
The truth is that modern Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers are all sub classes of a same class.
@SubBrief
@SubBrief 6 ай бұрын
16 VLS, 130mm Gun and some point defense missiles & guns. Greatest ever.
@asiftalpur3758
@asiftalpur3758 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen this video yet, but it would be interesting to see a comparison between this and the upcoming Type-54B.
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
It is probaly a win for the Gorshkov because newer build one with 32 cell 3S-14 for Kalibr, Onyx and Zircon + the 32 for Air defense (probaly a mix of 24 9M96 and 32 9M100) it will out match it
@asiftalpur3758
@asiftalpur3758 2 жыл бұрын
@@kqckeforyou4433 I'll wait for him to give his views, thanks.
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
@@asiftalpur3758 No problem 😉
@asiftalpur3758
@asiftalpur3758 2 жыл бұрын
@@kqckeforyou4433 😊👌
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a little too early to compare the Gorshkov with the Type 054B, given we only have unofficial info or what I consider fairly credible rumours on the Type 054B so far. My opinion is that the Admiral Gorshkov should still retain much better surface-to-surface firepower with its long-range ASCMs including the Tsirkon that will enter service soon, but the Type 054B should be more suitable for area air defence, particularly if it uses the Chinese UVLS as I believe it will.
@gimme88
@gimme88 9 ай бұрын
im really glad i found this channel, it is VERY interesting!!! 8D
@cam35mm
@cam35mm 2 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good platform to build off of. longer and what seems a shorter profile. But then again it seems that all their armament is in the bow, the problem of putting all their eggs in one basket. If the bow takes a hit might take out the whole system.
@kentony7672
@kentony7672 Жыл бұрын
How many RBS15 can it withstand before going to accompany papa Moskva considering this missile has been widely deployed in Baltic region.. I bet it won't exceed a couple.
@struvrim7637
@struvrim7637 Жыл бұрын
@@kentony7672 The ship that Moscow, back in 1994, should be scraped, because she was already obsolete at that time, for Russia it was basically a loss of reputation As for RBS15, then N missiles * the probability of their interception, everything is exactly the same as in any other ships of any countries, but after the first missile there will be a casus beli and the question immediately arises whether can Stockholm, together with all the inhabitants and infrastructure, can withstand againts 16 thermonuclear charges 2 megatons each, which this ship is designed to carry in zircon format. There is reason to believe that the maximum is zero, taking into account all possible air defense. In terms of strategic destructive power, this is a very powerful frigate (although I think that everything directly and directly goes just to the fact that all parties will use destructive force even before construction is completed, ruining the entire civilization, but this is my opinion) And so, if nevertheless this does not happen by some miracle, then reducing the size of ships and increasing their striking power is a trend that all countries will follow. It's much better to have a bunch of these frigates than a lot fewer capital ships. This strategy works everywhere, as technologies get to stuffing anti-ship missiles into tens of thousands of stealth drone boats made of plastic, warships will simply be floating docks for such boats, most likely also automatic, and all the situation, guidance and control will be transferred to satellites (which in mostly owned by the leader of an alliance). Drones will also conduct anti-submarine warfare, just like the boats themselves will also be drones, and on this the era of warships, even of this size, will go into the background
@jerromedrakejr9332
@jerromedrakejr9332 Жыл бұрын
@@kentony7672 If I'm not mistaken, the Russian Ministry of Defense made an official statement that the ship sank due to a fire caused by the crew's error! You have some new information, that that ship was sunk by a missile!?
@fanaticcoder3320
@fanaticcoder3320 7 ай бұрын
@@struvrim7637 Even the overpriced wunderwaffe zummwalt will go down after 1 hit. I don't think even carrier would survive 1 hit from modern AShM. The key is don't get hit, use decoy, EW, interceptor anything but try not to get hit.
@shmeckle666
@shmeckle666 2 жыл бұрын
This ain’t no FFG this is a light guided missile destroyer lmao.
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree!
@Deliryczny
@Deliryczny Жыл бұрын
Seriously? A medium-sized frigate with average radar and missile equipment is the "deadliest"? Its only advantage is the Zircon rackets. There is no comparison to the more advenced frigates like Spanisch F100, Australian Hunter, Frech-Italian Horizon et cetera, cetera...
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
Horizon class is a destroyer, idiot.
@zachdebuhr6347
@zachdebuhr6347 Жыл бұрын
This whole account seems like it's extremely biased towards Chinese and Russian designs. The kinzhal failure should be proof enough that Russian hypersonic is a joke
@ActLikeABitch
@ActLikeABitch Жыл бұрын
​@@zachdebuhr6347Patriot get destroyed must be a joke SAM😂. US and Nato lost in afghan war prove that Western military equipment is a joke and garbage😂. Look at leopard 2a6 also a flying turret😂.
@ActLikeABitch
@ActLikeABitch Жыл бұрын
​@@zachdebuhr6347sent a video khinzal got shot down😂. Only claim by ukraine with fake khinzal piece😂
@soulofnature6537
@soulofnature6537 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂Where is proof of Kingal got shot down nowhere and before you show any just 1 fake video don't forget to prove that it has Kingal in it or ship Moskva I seen them them fakes anyway Ukraine uses they old almost similar looking ship but not the same size and burn it for a prime video because it was old and it cost to much to renew and 3rd country like Ukraine can have ships not enough money because they beg none stop USA for USD and tech all destroyed in 7+ years lol hahaha Kingal hit all the military UKRnazi buildings as all videos show whole world seen it
@kamikaze.7607
@kamikaze.7607 2 жыл бұрын
Can u plz make a video on South Korean Sejong the great class destroyer.
@Senbonzakura776
@Senbonzakura776 2 жыл бұрын
really like the design of the ship
@slkiller07
@slkiller07 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do video about future Lider-Class destroyer?
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot is still up in the air around the project 23560... it's not clear whether it will definitely happen given the preferences given to the Super Gorshkov
@slkiller07
@slkiller07 2 жыл бұрын
@@EurasiaNaval thanks for the update👍
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 2 жыл бұрын
While this ship is very impressive, will Russia have the industrial capacity to mass produce them? Specially now that Russia's economy and budget will be taking a major hit from sanctions and mobilization, and now that other branches of the military will become a priority? Russia needs Fixed and Rotary wing aircraft, MBTs, IFVs, APCs in massive numbers, not to mention the costs of paying, feeding and housing the millions of reservists. Will they have the budget necessary to keep building them? We are talking about a military budget increase of several times, while overall government revenues are plumeting. Russia will need to cut some of their investiments, and I think the navy might be the choice of budget cuts.
@jerromedrakejr9332
@jerromedrakejr9332 Жыл бұрын
They don't plan to mass produce any of their ships... They plan to build 15 of these frigates, they have built 3, they are building 5, and when they finish those 5 they will start the next 5... and that's it. Everything is as they planned, they don't have any problems there.
@pierceplaysstudios245
@pierceplaysstudios245 Жыл бұрын
Yes. They plan is to have 15. 2 are in the navy, Another just complete its trials, And another 5 are under construction
@muhammadhuzaifaazam
@muhammadhuzaifaazam 2 жыл бұрын
How would this compare to the new 054B and the PNS Tughril type frigates? Make a video please
@nilanjangupta763
@nilanjangupta763 2 жыл бұрын
Are those indigenously manufactured or the Chinese just threw a watered down export version of the Type 54?
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
It's a little too early to compare the Gorshkov with the Type 054B, given we only have unofficial info or what I consider credible rumours on the Type 054B so far. My opinion is that the Gorshkov should still retain much better surface-to-surface firepower, but the Type 054B should be more suitable for area air defence, particularly if it uses the Chinese UVLS as I believe it will.
@muhammadhuzaifaazam
@muhammadhuzaifaazam 2 жыл бұрын
@@EurasiaNaval and how about the Tughril class of frigates?
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadhuzaifaazam Definitely superior to the Type 054A/P in every single way, in my view
@robertcameron3455
@robertcameron3455 2 жыл бұрын
Great ship for the mighty Russian navy
@Bonygasse
@Bonygasse Жыл бұрын
The Russian Navy has always been a stepchild of the armed forces. Today more than ever.
@SuperpowerBroadcasting
@SuperpowerBroadcasting Жыл бұрын
The Zircon is one of the best arguments for why NATO needs to increase its defence spending big time
@MuffHam
@MuffHam 2 сағат бұрын
It's funny NATO spends 1.2 trillion on defense. Russia as of 2024 spends 165 billion. Why is NATO so scared of a single country. Which has 1/4 the budget of USA. NATO also has almost a billion people. Yet Russia only has 160ish million. So why dose NATO think Russia is such a threat.
@McRocket
@McRocket 2 жыл бұрын
I think Russia needs to start paying more attention to training their personnel. And overhauling both their military and their government. Rather then building more 'stuff'. Take the sinking of the Moskva? It got hit by 2 missiles without firing a shot. It did not even detect the incoming missiles. Apparently, because the radar detection desk was not even manned. As were many, other posts. Either unmanned or poorly manned. Russia has plenty of military technology. And there is NO POINT in building great, new ships. If they are not going to be manned and operated properly. The problem is their military organization is a mess. And their (and Russia's) leadership is in desperate need of overhauling. Fix the top first. Then worry about building stuff for it. Thank you for this video. ☮
@locoman888
@locoman888 Жыл бұрын
Potentially penetrate air defense? Try 100% penetrate its mach 9.
@scottcornford1644
@scottcornford1644 2 жыл бұрын
and all this can be undone by a man and his cigarette
@aib0160
@aib0160 2 жыл бұрын
As with most Russian made hardware they look great on paper but found wanting in actual combat.
@aib0160
@aib0160 Жыл бұрын
@4den Planes and helicopters shot down, missiles that are woefully inaccurate, air space regularly breached by Ukrainian activity and their navy moved out of harms way following the sinking of the Black Sea flagship. The Russian army has little to do with any of that?
@aib0160
@aib0160 Жыл бұрын
@4den Well it was you blaming the army, I was just pointing out that Russia's losses and poor performance isn't just their army. Their equipment has proven to be crap as have their tactics. But you carry on with the insults if that makes you feel better. That is something the Russians are good at, just like fighting unarmed civilians and rag-tag armies of the third world.
@bobsagget823
@bobsagget823 Жыл бұрын
@4den406 cope loser
@jerromedrakejr9332
@jerromedrakejr9332 Жыл бұрын
@@aib0160 Five months later... the mighty German Leopards and American Bradleys in Ukraine burn better than fireworks, and just these days a video of a Russian T-90, which ran over several mines and was hit several times by AT missiles but sill continued with its movement and execution of the task became super popular! Or, for example, a video of a Russian Ka-52 repelling the attack of several anti-aircraft missiles, or a video of another Ka-52 whose tail was blown off by a projectile, but which calmly continued its flight and returned to base. Compilations of the destruction of HUGE amount of NATO equipment by Russian drones, helicopters and precision artillery shells are also very popular! So much for poor Russian and superior US weapons!
@aib0160
@aib0160 Жыл бұрын
@@jerromedrakejr9332 Tell me what you're on as I want some of that.
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 2 жыл бұрын
On paper, the Gorshkovs were the best frigate afloat. But sadly, they're in service with the Russian Navy that has a reputation of badly maintaining its ships.
@jamesmandahl444
@jamesmandahl444 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it us pretty impressive. Getting tired of the thick anti ruskie propaganda
@witika7151
@witika7151 2 жыл бұрын
I would'nt say that. Reality speaks better than words. Look at the Moskva it sunk because it was sent out in poor condition with its defence technologies was not working. Look at the akula months before the US could not locate it in the Atlantic. Now it was spotted off the coast off Norway. Did US technology improve over 4 months or is the akula not being mantained properly hence it's stealth being deterioriated.
@chance1113
@chance1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmandahl444 if you look at it from another pov, given the russians relatively small military budget compared to the US and china, it's only logical that they would struggle to maintain a lot of equipment. servicing a military that requires a large yet elite navy, army and air force on such a poultry budget...it's only inevitable that there are going to be major holes when it comes to general upkeep and training. dude mentioning the sinking of the movska and the spotting of the akula is right. heck even vostok 2022 they couldn't even send more than a quarter of the ships they had announced to participate. i think the criticism is fair
@mrmacias4217
@mrmacias4217 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a brand new ship there’s a different between a ship from the 70s and 2022 😂 you fool
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmandahl444 it's not an anti-ruskie propaganda when theres a leaked report on how badly the Russian Navy maintained their former Black Sea flagship.
@allgood6760
@allgood6760 Ай бұрын
Sleek and chic 👍
@Milovan-c9x
@Milovan-c9x 5 ай бұрын
KZbin💩 hypocrites gott all butthurt about my comments on Ryssian technology and blocked my comments.
@amirhoseynkhanbabaei1367
@amirhoseynkhanbabaei1367 2 жыл бұрын
Where's 2CIWS kashtan or palma????
@Yourlocalhuman8
@Yourlocalhuman8 2 жыл бұрын
Instead, replaced with Palash CIWS
@amirhoseynkhanbabaei1367
@amirhoseynkhanbabaei1367 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yourlocalhuman8 oooooO yes palash . Tankyou sir🙌
@FahrurRoziqin
@FahrurRoziqin 2 жыл бұрын
so it has Very good anti air missile, with Anti submarine detection and torpedo, And equipped with Hypersonic missile too? YEP!
@filipzietek5146
@filipzietek5146 2 жыл бұрын
0:43 Beutifull ship 😭😭😭
@johnord684
@johnord684 11 ай бұрын
Its a wonder is dosn't have oars
@SuperSanic..
@SuperSanic.. 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe in russian specs anymore.
@jamesmandahl444
@jamesmandahl444 2 жыл бұрын
Nah they are pretty legit. You and I have been thru some of the most intense propaganda campaigns seen in human history. Not all is as it seems. Dont just assume what you hear regarding Russia is always true, whether good or bad.
@DairyCat
@DairyCat 2 жыл бұрын
Specs are fine. But corruption has severely impacted maintenance of their ships and sanctions have probably made it even worse.
@Jman-uz6gp
@Jman-uz6gp Жыл бұрын
@@jamesmandahl444 No they really are not. Is now known Russia inflates all its military specifications and capabilities.
@ronniefarnsworth6465
@ronniefarnsworth6465 Жыл бұрын
HHHHhhhaaaa just more Russian "Paper Tiger" JUNK !!!!! Semper Fi
@lokesh303101
@lokesh303101 7 ай бұрын
Yes!
@debratakahara2494
@debratakahara2494 14 күн бұрын
Ah yes, was expecting the Russian troll bots to be out in force and they didn’t disappoint. On paper very impressive ship and I’m a fan. Impressive weaponry. However long term maintenance and crew training are probably questionable as is a recurring theme with the Russian military. Also its weaponry may be impressive but it’s electronic systems and radars don’t come close to the latest Aegis systems. This ship would never get close enough to an opposing naval force to launch its missiles to begin with. Carrier launched F35’s would sink her before she knew what hit her.
@ExAnalogia
@ExAnalogia 2 жыл бұрын
Send it to Ukraine and Admiral Gorshkov will become a permanent underwater memory of failed Russia ships.
@airlightshockZOV
@airlightshockZOV Жыл бұрын
They did, and yet here it still fights and yet still it’s bombing ukraine with moskits and zircons
@clausjensen5658
@clausjensen5658 2 жыл бұрын
As with any russian war-materiel alot can be said. Often not much good. With the pisspoor performance in Ukraine in mind I remain very doubtfull that this Frigate can do all it intends to do. Even so , with all this technology apparantly modern and all. If the training of the crew does´nt match this. Then overall performance might not be as high as expected. Apparantly the Moscow the flagship of the black sea fleet , was so badly maintained only one of the 4 CIWS worked. The radar interfered with communications . And all firefighting gear was locked away due to the crew apparantly stealing it. It was despite all that considered battleready enough to fight. If the conditions are so bad on what should be the pride of the black sea fleet. Then I highly doubt that the effective fighting capabilities of this ship match up with what it should be able to do on paper. All the information about the Moscow was from another youtuber Lazerpig. On another note is´nt it strange that every Russian navy video of exercises never show the crew in battlegear. No flak wests , no helmets. Would´nt it make sense to train as you would actually fight? Also from what I have heard, Russia never put much thinking into the design of operating surfaces of their combat systems. If you expect a soldier to look at a radar screen or weapons-computer 8-10 hours a day atleast make the screen layout , colours and what else you can. As easy and less tireing as possible to avoid fatigue and minimize chances of errors being made. My point really is that the ship might be very good. But if the crew is shit then what´s reality of it´s capabilities.
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
Well lets Say the Operator because the crew can be good but the rest can be shit
@clausjensen5658
@clausjensen5658 2 жыл бұрын
@@kqckeforyou4433 Fair enough.
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
@@clausjensen5658 Thanks but with the rest your right and its kinda sad to have one of the Super Powers of this world in a state like this
@mrmacias4217
@mrmacias4217 2 жыл бұрын
Are all Lazer pig fans this stupid? like I knew y’all were braindead but this is a different level of stupidity 😟
@320jasont
@320jasont Жыл бұрын
Like all Russian military hardware it's a lot of firepower and more then likely a lot of flaws that will cause it to flounder in the real world.
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so much better then that frog-channel with the fake "Russian" accent. That channel is so biased. At least you try not to
@val91122
@val91122 2 жыл бұрын
may I ask what channel is that?
@chance1113
@chance1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@val91122 he's talking about binkov. tankies hate him because he's honest about russian and chinese military equipment (aka mostly trash in russia's case and mostly untested and trash in china's) whereas this channel is basically a hype machine for russian and chinese military hardware lol. not that i have a dog in this fight but the comment sections are always hilarious especially since this channel proclaimed the movska as some unstoppable beast yet it got sunk by the ukrainians embarrassingly
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry 2 жыл бұрын
Binkov's battleground
@EurasiaNaval
@EurasiaNaval 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for your support. I actually find Binkov's videos on Chinese naval and air power to be not too bad. He makes an attempt to be impartial, and what he says is defensible, although he does stay on the more conservative side in terms of PLA asset numbers and capabilities. For example, in his recent video on the surge in Chinese combat aircraft production, I think he undercounted the J-15 and H-6K/J/N numbers somewhat, but the estimates he presented for other aircrafts were defensible. He clearly tries to get hold of the correct sources, or have people working for him that scour Chinese language forums. I can't speak for Binkov's videos on Russian equipment or military affairs though, because I haven't watched many of his videos on that topic, and I know far less about Russian capabilities in general.
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry 2 жыл бұрын
Very anti-China, i think. His comments are through the roof anti-China. Critic is ok, pure hate is bad. He cant do anything about that but still annoying. But thanks for trying to be un-biased.
@sergiodesouzajunior3962
@sergiodesouzajunior3962 Жыл бұрын
Compro a fragata toda 80 trilhões manda para a base do rio de janeiro Niterói brasil marinha
@brianfoley4328
@brianfoley4328 2 жыл бұрын
The loss of the Moskva (Slava class Cruiser) changes many of our ideas on the effectiveness of Russian systems. While it is easy to blame the Captain and crew, there are deeper issues that need more discussion. Frigates are by design, smaller warships that are usually tasked with the outer perimeter defense of the fleet, but the Russian Navy has a different take on that idea. The newer Russian Frigates are really scaled down Destroyers, in that their mission is a balance between offense and defense. The Admiral Gorshkov class Frigates are fine ships but suffer from the attempt to be the "Jack-of-all-Trades" and master of none. The threat facing the Russian Navy comes from surface, air and submarine launched missiles and torpedoes. The Admiral Gorshkov is an impressive looking Frigate that is ill equipped to fight in the modern weapons environment, it's small size makes it vulnerable to loss from relatively light damage...it takes highly trained crews and a certain amount of "bulk" and water tight compartmenting to survive missile strikes...the Admiral Gorshkov has too little air defense capability, too little "bulk" and given the experience of the Moskva little chance of survival in modern combat.
@Khalid_Looby
@Khalid_Looby Жыл бұрын
thats any ship tbh, todays attack is stronger than defense tech. look at russia can use their hyper sonic missiles and destroy literrary all usa navy lol.
@bobsagget823
@bobsagget823 Жыл бұрын
@@Khalid_Looby cope more loser
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they should focus on building single-purpose $4.5 billion dollar ships that can are only armed with artillery guns that fire $800,000 rounds.
@brianfoley4328
@brianfoley4328 Жыл бұрын
@@definitelyfrank9341 Yeah...but when your Navy's budget is two and a half times larger than the entire Defense budget of your nearest peer competitor you can afford to "experiment".
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
@@brianfoley4328 A retard would know that ship is useless, you can't avoid the truth.
@sergiodesouzajunior3962
@sergiodesouzajunior3962 Жыл бұрын
Compro a fragata toda por 700 trilhões manda para a base do rio de janeiro Niterói brasil marinha
@Cydonius1
@Cydonius1 2 жыл бұрын
Must look great on paper, then again the Moskva was awesome too and it's point defence kinda forgot to work and it's damage control was non-existent
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole 2 жыл бұрын
Moskvas flaw was it's fire fighting capability and overall age No wonder it was due to be scrapped next year.
@mindaugasstankus5943
@mindaugasstankus5943 2 жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole BS, had repair/maintenance/upgrades done (one paper looks like mostly) to server another decade or two.
@milosmilictrob2046
@milosmilictrob2046 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindaugasstankus5943 Nope it didnt, it was supposed to have, but lack of funding denied it an modernization in those areas.
@lexburen5932
@lexburen5932 Жыл бұрын
kinda lame comparing an old ship wich the moskva was. against a brand new one
@bobsagget823
@bobsagget823 Жыл бұрын
@@lexburen5932 cope
@SergioLuizCardosodeSouzaJunior
@SergioLuizCardosodeSouzaJunior 9 ай бұрын
Compro 30.000 navios dessa classe para a marinha do Brasil Rio de Janeiro
@aberry2521
@aberry2521 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe their opponents will use drones to good effect like they have in Ukraine.
@sergiodesouzajunior3962
@sergiodesouzajunior3962 11 ай бұрын
Compro 500 navios dessa classe para a marinha do Brasil rio de janeiro
@nobodyherepal3292
@nobodyherepal3292 2 жыл бұрын
Well then, come a little closer to the Ukrainian coast then, if you think your frigate would tough…..
@multipolarworldorder
@multipolarworldorder 2 жыл бұрын
The new torpedo is a great asset for attack and defense
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
Well it doesn't matter how good it is if the Goverment of this ship doesn't know how to use it. Doesn't matter which goverment
@dafonsecaaugustojose4423
@dafonsecaaugustojose4423 2 жыл бұрын
It has nothing to do with weapons, I am wondering where you guys leave your brains when listening or your are just all about talk?????
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
What's the problem?
@taiwanstillisntacountry
@taiwanstillisntacountry 2 жыл бұрын
The mightiest army of the world of 1950 couldnt defeat a rice peasants army and the poorest of the world. In Vietnam war, the p00r USA army was again the stronghest and mighties army of the world. The rice-peasant army of Vietnam is pissing their pants of laughing. The stronghest NATO army under USA command invaded Afghanistan to bring demon-crazy, human-abuse and free-dumbs and failed. 20 years of occupation and Afghanistan still 1 of the poorest country in the world. Yes, poor USA is a beacon of failure.
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
Well in case you wrote Something i can't see it
@kqckeforyou4433
@kqckeforyou4433 2 жыл бұрын
@@dafonsecaaugustojose4423 It has. A System has two crucial elements. The System itself and the Operator. As we have no 100% unmanned object ( because at somepoint a human started it or deactivated it) everything falls under this. It doesn't matter how good a weapon is if the Operator can't use it full pontential. Sry for my Bad Englisch xD
@stuartgooding7295
@stuartgooding7295 2 жыл бұрын
they sink .very well tho don't they 🤣🤣
@InfinityRedXX
@InfinityRedXX Жыл бұрын
The super gorshkov is essentially a mega cruiser.
@danielolsson4
@danielolsson4 11 ай бұрын
Russias military stuff is always "best" before it's used in combat...
@leecheong4986
@leecheong4986 Жыл бұрын
The PLA should put YJ21 hypersonic missiles in the new 054B frigate and mass produce it.
@azbgames6827
@azbgames6827 Жыл бұрын
Russia would be better off building more of these instead of trying to keep those ancient Soviet Cruisers, Destroyers and the Kuznetsov alive. These are probably more combat effective than the Sovremenny class or Slava class considering what happened to the Moskva.
@marvinc5961
@marvinc5961 Жыл бұрын
Lmao😂is that why they don’t park it next to Ukraine? It’s too deadly? 😂😂
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
Because that isn't smart?
@collinwood6573
@collinwood6573 Жыл бұрын
@@definitelyfrank9341 what’s the point of having a navy if you send its best ships on intimidation cruises rather than have them fight in the war you are actively engaged in?
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
@@collinwood6573 Because they aren't part of the fleet nearest to the enemy they're fighting, and they really have no need to put such a high value target there. They already have missile boats which are much lower value targets and can get the job done.
@kentony7672
@kentony7672 Жыл бұрын
How many RBS15 can it withstand before going to accompany daddy Moskva..
@jerry4251
@jerry4251 Жыл бұрын
why don't Russia get rid of that k827 is nothing but a old piece of garbage
@Carlos-cy4uc
@Carlos-cy4uc 11 ай бұрын
Very funny everything
@beachcomber3036
@beachcomber3036 Жыл бұрын
REMEMBER MOSKVA? - - POOTIN
@twiz148
@twiz148 Жыл бұрын
Its been 8 months since this was posted. Anyone want to bet whether this thing still runs? My money is that its in dry dock indefinitely by now. 😁
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
Still runs, give me your money.
@fgtrhwu2
@fgtrhwu2 Жыл бұрын
This ship has been running for some time
@pierceplaysstudios245
@pierceplaysstudios245 Жыл бұрын
It was the flagship of russia's Mediterranean fleet parade on Navy Day
@garyb5998
@garyb5998 2 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂.... I hope Cigarettes are banded on board.... Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦 💪
@alexkor380
@alexkor380 Жыл бұрын
Sebilam slava. Svalka - ukraina.
@undertaker21-18
@undertaker21-18 5 ай бұрын
Good Joke 🤣🤣🤣
@sorinvasile9238
@sorinvasile9238 2 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha ha best one year a go befor de war
@sergiodesouzajunior3962
@sergiodesouzajunior3962 Жыл бұрын
Compro 1.000 navios dessa classe para a marinha do Brasil
@fabiosarti8959
@fabiosarti8959 5 ай бұрын
🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@richardmoskalyov8503
@richardmoskalyov8503 2 жыл бұрын
They just copied the chinese
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib Жыл бұрын
Typical Russian bote, its a jack of all trades. It is better to have Frigates specialized for a task.
@definitelyfrank9341
@definitelyfrank9341 Жыл бұрын
How did your multi-billion-dollar, single-purpose Zumwalt go?
@LuqmanHM
@LuqmanHM Жыл бұрын
I want to argue, Iver Huitfeldt and De Zeven Provincian are much better than AG
@raisef8622
@raisef8622 2 жыл бұрын
🍒😊
@extremumadventura
@extremumadventura Жыл бұрын
Ukrainian drones deadliest weapon in Black Sea
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