Adobe & Apple vs Creatives

[@designobservatory]

good comment Paul. yes, this happens to me as an illustrator and designer too. We creatives get screwed three times: First they rob our work to copy it, then they rob our jobs by generating our styles and ideas and with all that they also even rob our motivation because everyone thinks our work is simply generated in 10 seconds. It is astonishing how industries act instantly and tirelessly against anyone infringing their copyright and identity. Beware if by accident we created something in any way resembling something they own, they destroy you. But now all of a sudden, them appropiate your lifes work and experience without compensation or even mentioning is not considered a problem. By the way Adobe the big devil of the industry, who screwed us several times by buying and burying better products from competition, M-Factory, FreeHand etc. but well, that was decades ago. Now they created the Adobe monopoly. I am glad I found Affinity to go around that, barely. And Apple or KZbin also did let us down, as we creatives made them survive in the beginning, and then when they were big, they started to change against our interests. It is always the same and we small creatives are always on the losing side.

[@paulschefz]

agree, I have been using and hating adobe for 30 years and still do, I keep trying anything and everything but still end up with that adobe subscription. I have been using apple as long but never hated apple, lots of frustration, yes but never hate. I try to support anyone and everybody who goes up agains adobe (affinity, pixelmator,...)

[@whoever666666]

I just ordered 4x5 film for my Linhof Technika - next thing is to re-activate my darkroom

[@paulschefz]

Nice!

[@oldsarge52]

I'm going back to fine arts before it becomes a lost art.

[@paulschefz]

YES! I really enjoy the process of slower shooting and more printing!

[@Spoonfed78]

Two aspects, the shareholder focus greed, and the personal enjoyment of creating. Adobe and Apple care zero for the latter, they are both controlling and manipulating companies with a single focus, like most are. They either just hold go to market control or build in a level of control. Photography isn't going away, perhaps the opportunity to make money is falling but personal side will be there. The irony of all this is human technology is now just doing to human creative resources as humans have done to the natural world for a very long time.

[@paulschefz]

well at least apple apologized, something that will never ever happen with Adobe. I remember when people lost their entire cloud storage with LR mobile (not classic), no apologies there whatsoever.

[@lostgleammedia]

That ad is about, if you don’t have all the creative stuff, you can buy a ipad to create like with any of that stuff

[@paulschefz]

I guess that somehow is the idea behind it but it came out the very wrong way. the funny thing is that is actually a very straight forward copy of a LG ad kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJS4coRonpqHnNE

[@GizmoMaxx]

Photography is Dead. let's face it and learn to evolve.

[@paulschefz]

a lot of ways for photographers to make money are going away, but that does not stop anyone from shooting and afaik camera sales are actually going up again? this has always been an evolution, adapt, get out and enjoy!

[@vadikent]

Photography is dead? How so?

[@paulschefz]

@@vadikent Because it is the new KZbinr headline of the month😉

[@oldsarge52]

thats a shit perspective, really sir? If it were not for photographers you would have no model to rip from?

[@Fujik1966]

Why is your video moving left and right everywhere?

[@paulschefz]

😂 I guess its AI!

[@shankygeee]

If the thought of AI rummaging through your data gives you the heebie-jeebies, maybe don't plaster it all over the internet. Those terms and conditions you blindly accepted probably spell out that your stuff is fair game for public consumption. It's like when a real human artist scrolls through a mountain of photos, hunting for that spark of inspiration. The difference? Well, not much, really. AI is just taking the age-old wisdom of "good artists copy, great artists steal" and turning it into a full-blown art heist. So, next time you hit "upload," just remember: you might be feeding your data to the next cyber Picasso.

[@paulschefz]

Unfortunately it is not that easy, I am very selective about where and what to post but having been a commercial and editorial photographer for decades, a lot of my work is just readily available online, other people post it, it gets reposted. blatant copyright abuse has been pretty common for a long time, this is different because AI is trained on any available image (or text), video,...so if you are a creative who has either published anything or promoted yourself in any way in the last 10 years, your work has been used to train the same AI that is replacing you right now. I am actually not really opposed to AI at all, and like I said before, my work has been platantly ripped off and copied before, that always has happened and always will. I dont appreciate the big tech companies (which in many ways have depended on people like me for income and advancement) to now, well, throw us under the bus. this has nothing to do with the next cyber Picasso, in fact I am very much looking forward to what will be created!

[@designobservatory]

@@paulschefz yea me too. I have only work on my own websites. No 10 page small letter terms & conditions from big corp. there but my own terms and they are clear: copyright is mine alone.

[@paulschefz]

@@designobservatory and AI models have been trained on that work because they simply scrub anything and everything for anything and everything, I am not even sure how anyone would be able to sue anyone for copyright infringement at this point. so many grey areas. and anyone who you have done work for probably put it up on social media or on the web or somebody saw it and liked it and put it up and there you go. you cant control it.

[@bernios3446]

The iPad Ad symbolizes what's going on much more than Apple probably were aware of while creating it. Their ads tell nice stories of diversity, ecology and creativity, but in the end it's all about them getting bigger every year and end up eating the artists and everything else...

[@paulschefz]

I am a big fan of apple products and dont really have an issue with them trying to control hardware and software as long as it keeps me safe and it all just works, so that part I really like. because I really like being within that ecosystem, I always try to move as much of my actual (pro) work into that ecosystem and I fell that is exactly where apple keeps failing. I really like FCPX, but the DaVinci Resolve workflow works better for me. I used to depend on Aperture, we all know how that ended. I try to use Photos but it always gets limited when I am trying to include it in my workflow. this ad is plain dumb and apple apologized. Adobe will always forge ahead and never apologize which is why I try to use their products as little as possible.

[@bernios3446]

@@paulschefz Haha, thanks for explaining. me too I only use Apple devices, but as you say, they have long become a consumer company, their pro programs are now an afterthought. Yes Apple apologized but do they really feel sory? and do they really care for the creative ones? I doubt....

[@paulschefz]

@@bernios3446 this ad made a big stink and brought some unnecessary negatives when the product (the new magical iPad) wasnt really received that well anyway. the only way this can become interesting is if Apple finally opens the iPad Pro up to Mac OS, which might happen this summer? otherwise I dont see the point in putting so much power into that tablet.