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@abdullahaltulea142
@abdullahaltulea142 4 ай бұрын
"Sorry we got caught. We'll try again some other time"
@CamCanEdits
@CamCanEdits 4 ай бұрын
Yup, Oops they saw, our bad.
@qwerty3486
@qwerty3486 4 ай бұрын
First thing that came to mind kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2arhZdqitJko5Y
@therealfrankwhite
@therealfrankwhite 3 ай бұрын
LOL!!!
@kimikimi999
@kimikimi999 3 ай бұрын
meh it will work, everyone especially american have big memory hole problem in their brain. give it 3 month everyone forgot about it even happened
@JvztGaming
@JvztGaming 4 ай бұрын
Remember when things used to be a one time purchase 😀
@MrMadvillan
@MrMadvillan 3 ай бұрын
but now you can keep paying for a software that hasn’t been developed on 8-10 years.
@youwayo
@youwayo 2 ай бұрын
Affinity :P
@dizziex
@dizziex Ай бұрын
​@@youwayo Is it worth to buy? I mean i want to switch to affinity but adobe still a big monster in creative market
@NORBZMUSIC
@NORBZMUSIC 4 ай бұрын
25+ year user, loved you until you went subscription, hated you since but put up with you. The other day I finally cancelled, your problems are wayyy bigger than these TOS. I've spent 30-40K on Adobe over the years at the various studios I was in, you're welcome, but you won't get a penny more, only save from here imo is a perpetual license option with locally ran software not having to be connected to the internet or sending any data as a default opting me into bs.
@Corilo91
@Corilo91 26 күн бұрын
I had the same experience, on a smaller scale. Adobe should face the consequences of being a greedy monster corporation.
@NEILSTER666
@NEILSTER666 4 ай бұрын
I cancelled last night and didn't get charged the £75 termination fee. I simply typed the following in the chat and copy pasted it to any of their responses. "Close my account and do not charge the termination fee as it wasn't clear when I signed up there would be one. I don't want any offers of free months, just close my account." I got bumped to a manager and he closed my account and confirmed i will not be charged any more.
@anirudhkaimal5127
@anirudhkaimal5127 3 ай бұрын
But, we shouldn't have to do that. THEY need to fix that shit and we have no obligation to change for their bullshit tactics.
@DanTuber
@DanTuber 3 ай бұрын
if you accept the free months, it locks you into an annual sub and if you cancel that before the year, you get fined a fee
@ExpeditionAustralia
@ExpeditionAustralia 4 ай бұрын
Did you explicitly ask photographers who submitted images to Adobe Stock for their permission to use their images to train your AI that will ultimately make them redundant? Did you offer to pay them for using their images to train your AI? If not, why not?
@davidrabelo
@davidrabelo 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you can search on google. There's a faq with this exactly questions.
@BN-qo5zc
@BN-qo5zc 4 ай бұрын
For anyone curious - The answers are: No - They only even told them after the model had already been trained. Kinda - They paid some, and it was a pittance. So little in fact they lowered their payout terms significantly for a while so people could get even that. And because they gave themselves the permission to - They used the same "improve our services" clause they mention in this video in the stock agreement, to claim they had the legal rights to it all. They made no mention of intent to even pay anyone, anything at all, until there was backlash.
@mancerrss
@mancerrss 4 ай бұрын
Nahhh. All your trust has been burned already. You're getting sued by the US government for antitrust monopolistic behaviors. We fully expect your eventual breaking up in the future
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 4 ай бұрын
I LOOK FORWARD to a breakup of Adobe.
@Patheticbutharmless
@Patheticbutharmless 4 ай бұрын
Why doesn't SHE get to run the company? She seems to have her **** together.
@AlexAnczewski
@AlexAnczewski 4 ай бұрын
Sorry but the section 3 is still unacceptable. Adobe is not only not sorry but they keep pushing very unfair terms of use. Nowhere does it says that the license you grant them applies ONLY to the specified cases. That means Adobe can give any other reason to use your work in any way they want and there is nothing in the terms to say otherwise. Sure, you have one person saying in the video “we can’t use it commercially” etc, but show me where is that written in the agreement. It isn’t. And what good is my ownership of my work if corporation like this has a full right to do anything it likes with my work? What benefit it is to me to be the owner if I have no control on how my work is used? That is wrong. Really wrong. You want full world-wide none exclusive license. Sure, pay me for my work. You need my permission for specific use cases that are fundamental to the mechanics of the software and cloud services. Sure! Ask specifically for that and I will grant it. I didn’t accept your services yet Adobe. I won’t. Not in this form. Be fair Adobe you earn enough ffs.
@multimagical3137
@multimagical3137 4 ай бұрын
+1, should be the CEO Shantanu Narayen to make a clear statement
@mihaiblojmotion
@mihaiblojmotion 4 ай бұрын
Just canceled my adobe subscription and still use their software but form an old friend :) blocking them from accessing my internet connection. I don't want to send my data to a company that want to replace me with AI, I love what I do and I view myself doing exactly that 40 more years from now . If Adobe dosen''t come with other update that says clear they where wrong with this terms update and will remove it, I will not start again my subscription
@Apollos2023
@Apollos2023 23 күн бұрын
But at some point in time won’t all companies do that? Kinda movie physical media is dying off in place of digital media that we don’t own you know.
@Patheticbutharmless
@Patheticbutharmless 4 ай бұрын
Uuugh. I know she is only doing her job but phrasing the "you grant us non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty free license" and then give two harmless examples while NOT mentioning that the text clearly states "FOR EXAMPLE" (without giving further details) is.....wow. Utter, shameless wow.
@user-kb1hw2yq2f
@user-kb1hw2yq2f 3 ай бұрын
The dollar/company greed worldwide is showing it's true colors
@YukiFastlife
@YukiFastlife 4 ай бұрын
so when is the court date guys?
@Nedry92
@Nedry92 4 ай бұрын
is that person even real? or is it some AI weird stuff? jesus christ...
@noprivacyverner
@noprivacyverner 3 ай бұрын
AI bot hehe
@vini_artist
@vini_artist 3 ай бұрын
Not a good sign when in a relationship someone responsible for a decision send you a lawyer to clarify you some stuff.
4 ай бұрын
funny how this happened after you OBLIGATED us to accept this to keep using your system, putting an outrageous fine to anyone who quit your services, after artists straight up QUIT working for you and right after the thievery promoted by instagram. Sounds to me you are just trying to put out a fire but your intent was always to do that. I'm switching to clip studio. You have no respect for the very people YOU RELY ON
@jorgeadansorianohernandez9547
@jorgeadansorianohernandez9547 4 ай бұрын
All i understood was: "go to affinity as long as you can"
@KrunoslavStifter
@KrunoslavStifter 4 ай бұрын
Where is the middle finger option to click on.
@dozebooster
@dozebooster 4 ай бұрын
Oh, again with the 'customers are to blame because they are confused with the lawyer words' It was so obvious that the ToS said "you own the right to your content, but you give us permission to use them however we want, no strings attached." And then, you clearly held users files hostage by stating "if you don't agree to the new terms you can't access your files anymore" What assurance do we have that this won't happen again in the future?
@RommyFallas
@RommyFallas 3 ай бұрын
Zilch, my friend, zilch. Zero. Nada. Never. They're doing what Disney did to Star Wars - whatever the fck they want.
@Lumanda
@Lumanda 4 ай бұрын
I won't be renewing my anually subscription when it finishes. I don't trust this Adobe anymore.
@multimagical3137
@multimagical3137 4 ай бұрын
multiple changes in terms in less than 10 days and hidden fee in the subscription push me to loose my trust, after 20 years of work.
@WasifKhanGD
@WasifKhanGD 4 ай бұрын
@@multimagical3137 That's because of AI chaos, all over the place. Adobe turning into Ai Fire subsequently. Won't be surprised to rebrand soon.
@NEILSTER666
@NEILSTER666 4 ай бұрын
I cancelled last night and didn't get charged the £75 termination fee. I simply typed the following in the chat and copy pasted it to any of their responses. "Close my account and do not charge the termination fee as it wasn't clear when I signed up there would be one. I don't want any offers of free months, just close my account." I got bumped to a manager and he closed my account and confirmed i will not be charged any more.
@konraddakowicz4077
@konraddakowicz4077 4 ай бұрын
Probably they'll leave you off the hook right now if you cancel prematurely. Just contact them via chat and tell them to. If they won't - i would consider pressing legal charges - if they are being sued now by the government, chances are that you will go through with it.
@ether
@ether 4 ай бұрын
Great to see all 99 Adobe board members & C-suite executives liked this video!
@multimagical3137
@multimagical3137 4 ай бұрын
I ask with respect for the Adobe team, it should be the CEO Shantanu Narayen to make a statement. For the change of terms and for the unsubscription rules, what is happening is too serious.
@arunps7719
@arunps7719 3 ай бұрын
You can redact the respect lol
@user-kb1hw2yq2f
@user-kb1hw2yq2f 3 ай бұрын
Who cares what that greedy CEO has to say. Why are you waiting for a statement? You should have been gone already.
@dkeiher
@dkeiher 4 ай бұрын
This is just hilarious to me! They have now had to roll out a lawyer to explain all these terms yet again! But I also want to comment on the quality of this video and how amateur it all looks. Adobe, you have lost the faith of millions. The love has been lost mainly due to greed and being disingenuous to your customers. What a shambles.
@gandolfred
@gandolfred 4 ай бұрын
The thirst for profit, control and power has killed many empires. And here comes the crash of another.
@gandolfred
@gandolfred 4 ай бұрын
Videos like this will not help resolve the situation. We are dealing with a situation where customer dissatisfaction has accumulated for years, and now a critical mass of discontent has arisen. The situation with the new parts of the agreement was just the last straw. Therefore, the wave of abandonment of Adobe products will increase. This could be prevented by giving people the choice of buying a permanent license with limited updates or a subscription. Until Adobe returns permanent licenses and until there is a process of quick unsubscribing without loss, the company's problems will only increase.
@multimagical3137
@multimagical3137 4 ай бұрын
it make sense 100%. but Adobe never come back to perpetual licenses.
@gandolfred
@gandolfred 4 ай бұрын
@@multimagical3137 Then it's only a matter of time before most users leave them and their business goes bankrupt. The great exodus of users from Adobe products has already begun. Moreover, I think that the subscription model does not take root at all on software that runs standalone on computers.
@skurkstudio
@skurkstudio 4 ай бұрын
not scanned my files on my computer ever, which is obviously a lie. How do you know then i use pirate version of photoshop?
@ahmedronaldokahn2352
@ahmedronaldokahn2352 4 ай бұрын
So, that's what they said. However what they say and what they actually do, is totally different matter
@BeastOrGod
@BeastOrGod 3 ай бұрын
"Adobe doesn't own your content" "Adobe only gets to use all your content for free, forever, whenever and wherever Adobe wishes."
@shirazigs
@shirazigs 4 ай бұрын
You gave us a few examples, but I needed to see firm limitations, showing that Adobe does not use our work for other purposes. 🧐
@philiporeillycork
@philiporeillycork 4 ай бұрын
We updated our terms of service to make them easier for our customers to understand and now we are releasing a series of videos on multiple social media channels to explain how you are all misunderstanding them 🤔
@KibriaAli1305
@KibriaAli1305 4 ай бұрын
Yes, this is much clearer, now we have trust in you after giving a few EXAMPLES of some of the updated terms. Sheesh. Nothing has been cleared and haven't given confidence in your "limited" license, still far too broad. You also said you don't use it for generative AI, but that's just one aspect of machine learning, which you have mentioned in your terms. The license you want us to accept still seems like you have rights to NDA-protected material. You say you don't track any files stored locally, but what's to say you don't track it whilst we are working on such material? Ambiguity in your favour, not happy with it. After the backlash from the community, it seems like you wanted to re-word your terms, not change them. It's like "we are sorry you users don't understand our updated terms, let's dumb it down for you without changing the terms. We will give you examples on how our sublicense works that will win you over, but truthfully, we are still using your works for our benefit, not yours." - meaning they are not listening to creatives and their customers, they are doubling down on their terms. Personally, I won't be renewing, and I don't think I'll ever come back. I'm not sure you will win back others as well with this disappointing video you've put out.
@konraddakowicz4077
@konraddakowicz4077 4 ай бұрын
Just here to watch the dumpster fire - thanks again Adobe for luring me into a subscription model that was NOT monthly at all, and on top of that harrasing me into opting in to your spyware. Hope you guys go down in flames for this. 20ys plus user here - but the last 7 years were really painful - the shit you pulled in the last months were the last straw. Switching to Affinity, Davicni, Krita and Blender - that can do the job as well, are not subscription based. And by now - they even surpass you by far in running stable AND run on Linux. I won't be looking back.
@rptr29
@rptr29 4 ай бұрын
To have a lawyer of said company shows how bad things really are...
@pierreblumm
@pierreblumm 4 ай бұрын
Affinity.
@yosu4ditya394
@yosu4ditya394 3 ай бұрын
If buying isnt owning , then pirating isnt stealing
@sveeny
@sveeny 3 ай бұрын
12 year Adobe user here. I've waited for waaaaayyy too long to leave you guys behind. Not missing you at all.
@SilentTrip
@SilentTrip 4 ай бұрын
your times up Adobe!
@setritsetritsetritsetrit
@setritsetritsetritsetrit 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Adobe! I'll be sure to continue pirating your software with an increased sense of security and trust over your services!
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 4 ай бұрын
You’ll be hearing from Jessyca.
@lambasted6886
@lambasted6886 4 ай бұрын
Nooo but your work will still be in their file formats and the paradigm shift will never change if everyone keeps being locked into their stuff. Pirating is not going to help, only disconnecting from their ecosystem completely and learning other software.
@mancerrss
@mancerrss 4 ай бұрын
Remember, pirating Adobe is ethical
@antares3030
@antares3030 4 ай бұрын
Listen, it's not about if you're doing it rn It's the fact that terms of use allow you to, if you want it, and nobody would trust you to do the right thing instead of increasing profit
@ironraptorstudios
@ironraptorstudios 4 ай бұрын
Get bent Adobe, there is no love for you. Go try and market your B2B strategy without us artists, video editors, designers, we're done with you.
@ClearGlassStudios281
@ClearGlassStudios281 4 ай бұрын
They charge you for life to use their software. It's insanity. Had to cancel a year ago. Then this. Always had bad vibes from this company.
@heddshot87
@heddshot87 3 ай бұрын
I was sickened by your prices years ago, I use Affinity and Davinci Resolve now. We had a good thing, Adobe.. 😢
@wsclesky
@wsclesky 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes as a photographer I lose a client and I never know why they go with another photographer. The situation for Adobe in this matter is completely opposite of that. Your users (such as myself) are not happy at all with the TOS and how it all has been handled. I have been using Adobe Photoshop since 1999. My yearly subscription is up on the 22nd. I have cancelled my renewal and cancelled my subscription to Adobe Premier. Unfortunately corporations in their bid to make shareholders happy and generate profits is very much shooting yourself in your own foot in this case. You have good competition out there which is much lower in cost and without all of the headaches. There will be people at the top who lose their jobs over this. Sounds like the decision makers are suffering from group think and they will pay because of it.
@shirazigs
@shirazigs 4 ай бұрын
Artists really need the jobs you've taken with your bad AI. Selling their art to non-artists. 😭
@krisvaras7801
@krisvaras7801 4 ай бұрын
This video is basically the Adobe version of The Fine Bros infamous "you're too dumb to understand our idea" apology video
@dr.angerous
@dr.angerous 3 ай бұрын
Well most of muricans are tho. This won't change anything, they will go on..
@JohnWick-pr8oh
@JohnWick-pr8oh 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! It really helped me to find the cancel subscription button faster! :)
@KoongYe
@KoongYe 3 ай бұрын
Man.. I am so SICK and TIRED of these companies saying that I misunderstood when they get caught doing something dirty like this. Basically saying "You are not as dumb as we thought, but I think you are still dumb.
@keinpodcast4053
@keinpodcast4053 4 ай бұрын
No thank you. My trust is destroyed and fortunately I can also do my work with products from other manufacturers. I've paid way too much money for Adobe for far too long.
@mzsutodraw
@mzsutodraw 4 ай бұрын
I dnt understand why companies do this to themselves. I mean are they backward or did they find this new idea good? Or why do they want to shoot themselves in the knee ? I really don't get what's going on right now.
@HansJrgenFurfjord
@HansJrgenFurfjord 4 ай бұрын
There are no words to describe Adobe any longer. When I'm done with the next project, I'm done with Adobe. The alternatives are now good enough and in some important ways better. Saying that as a cert. Adobe expert since 1998. When even the US government sues Adobe because they're mistreating and exploiting people like phishing call centers in India, it doesn't matter any longer what they say and what they do. By paying them, you're rewarding sociopaths who think they deserve to be able to steal from you because they think they're smarter than you.
@PM9Video
@PM9Video 2 ай бұрын
Which is more important, customer experience or the bottom line?
@WiseBallMNE
@WiseBallMNE 4 ай бұрын
I read the comments and liked almost all of them. It is simply beyond me how you managed to explain a very complex matter in a few words that everyone understands you.
@christian_spies
@christian_spies 4 ай бұрын
Plot twist: She's an ai bot
@dutchjotaroholandes
@dutchjotaroholandes 4 ай бұрын
I was curious at first but thanks Adobe for making things clear. I wont use any of your programs ever again even if they become free. Now excuse me, I will look for companies who deserve my support, until never :)
@gydnyquill6750
@gydnyquill6750 2 ай бұрын
Affinity and Devinci would want your support.
@francoismathieu1504
@francoismathieu1504 4 ай бұрын
I have a question for you regarding the nude photography I occasionally do. Who decides for you that it is good or bad. I'm not talking about photos of children, I'm talking about photos taken with consenting adult models. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to ask you. Which trains the AI ​​to accept or reject our photos at Adobe. A Democrat, a Republican, a religious fanatic, an atheist, etc. You see, it can go very far. When we send a lawyer to explain the things of life in photography, we have a serious problem.
@ShutterTwist
@ShutterTwist 4 ай бұрын
Jessica, there is no need to talk like it's a Sesame Street. This is not "easier" to understand. Readability metrics were not the issue.
@marallander
@marallander 3 ай бұрын
"We see that you figured out our plan, but we're going to gaslight you into believing you're stupid and explain our terms of service again. We reserve the option to hold your content hostage again in the future until you accept our next update to our terms of service." So many other options out there other than Adobe now, and the other options don't require a monthly or yearly subscription or require you to give away license to use your content.
@billyrunsaplumbingservice1141
@billyrunsaplumbingservice1141 Ай бұрын
Pirating your products is the best decision we have ever made😂🎉
@Replicant-by1eh
@Replicant-by1eh 25 күн бұрын
Even that is small win for them. Coz you will watch product related videos and rack up views. Moving to alternative is the best move.
@mehdiamrani
@mehdiamrani 4 ай бұрын
Alternatives Everywhere, I will share them soon.
@strippedlist
@strippedlist 4 ай бұрын
I already uninstalled Adobe suite, and no cute lawyer could make me come back
@royshaft
@royshaft 3 ай бұрын
Mate , she ain’t cute !
@coloryvr
@coloryvr 4 ай бұрын
Nice try....BUT: I do not want any company or person, to get a look at what I am working until I publish a work. Even that PS is just able to look at what I am creating gives me the feeling, my ideas can be stolen. The whole buisnessmodel of PS is just ugly....
@kerimakmurzayev4718
@kerimakmurzayev4718 3 ай бұрын
Just switch to Da Vinci, Affinity, Gimp, Krita, Inkscape etc.
@amiibler
@amiibler 3 ай бұрын
"Hey all, we at Adobe think that you are so stupid that you can't interpret our mandatory license agreement correctly. Here's a lawyer that can translate the big words to finger paintings to help you understand." Yeah that'll save you.
@garretreed9709
@garretreed9709 3 ай бұрын
I expected them to turned off comments but that probably would’ve forced more backlash and mockery
@abendroid
@abendroid 4 ай бұрын
Never trust a lawyer, especially one from Adobe.
@skadimusic
@skadimusic 3 ай бұрын
119 Adobe employees approved this message
@farley333
@farley333 4 ай бұрын
You're cute. Why is there "sublicensable" aspect to that required license? You don't need that for content moderation. It's simple as that. Btw "We don't train generative models on your content." Yeah. Two problems here: The lack of past tense. (So you probably did train it on user data at some point.) and the word "We". Even with this excuse the T&C still grants you the full rights to outsource the training part to a company outside of Adobe and license them your user's content thanks to that aforementioned sublicensability. 🙃 So once again: Why it has to be "sublicensable"? Try better.
@PracticingPhotography
@PracticingPhotography 4 ай бұрын
The exampe to need a license to publish to youtube sounds bogus to me. That would be like Apple saying they get rights because I have a MacBook. That example made no sense. So are you saying since I created a video with Premiere Pro and publishied to KZbin you now have a license?
@egidiushoneymousse5950
@egidiushoneymousse5950 4 ай бұрын
if you share the video through frame IO for example, yes - that does require a license because it's technically performing the video publically. And shocker: youtube has the exact same terms in their TOU: "By providing Content to the Service, you grant to KZbin a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable and transferable license to use that Content (including to reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works, display and perform it) in connection with the Service and KZbin’s (and its successors’ and Affiliates’) business, including for the purpose of promoting and redistributing part or all of the Service."
@EricaGamet
@EricaGamet 4 ай бұрын
When you publish DIRECTLY from Premiere to KZbin, you are giving them the license to port that work from PP to YT. If you export and then manually upload to YT, then it doesn't apply. If Apple has a way (maybe they do in FinalCut?) of going from the app to KZbin, then they have the same licensing. Though it would be via the user agreement on FCP and not via your MacBook Pro.
@ldt8904
@ldt8904 Ай бұрын
@@egidiushoneymousse5950interesting. I wonder if these youtube TOU apply to all content uploaded, including music owned by large record companies
@hemanth593
@hemanth593 4 ай бұрын
This video does more damage to their company than what US govt did to them . Its more like damage control .
@rodrigopetunio
@rodrigopetunio 4 ай бұрын
Ok, now do the cancellations fee. Oh wait, right, the federal government had to sue you guys. Cue condescending lawyer video telling us that the FTC going after companies for unfair and illegal practices is normal and a good thing.
@MegaMbembe
@MegaMbembe 4 ай бұрын
There is a reason why the French created the middle finger.
@insuranceaes256
@insuranceaes256 4 ай бұрын
Nice, im waiting for part 39, of your simple and easy to undertand terms of use.
@sogood2bhappy2
@sogood2bhappy2 3 ай бұрын
Lets all move to AFFINITY🎉
@loublev5098
@loublev5098 Ай бұрын
Cancel Cancel Cancel - How???
@AMMARYASIR-ih6ie
@AMMARYASIR-ih6ie 4 ай бұрын
It should be the CEO who makes the statement not some xyz person.Anyways Adobe has lost the trust it had built and I'll be transitioning to Davinci. I forgot to mention that now it's totally legal to pirate the Adobe services since they have done with the users. Maybe I'll cut off their internet access and still use pirated adobe products.😂
@negkoray
@negkoray 4 ай бұрын
We want a perpetual license. No more being your beta testers for garbage apps that don't work.
@DizzieXD
@DizzieXD 3 ай бұрын
currently looking for alternatives, already bought LIFETIME license for $80 from affinity, you guys have option for premiere?
@hcl8836
@hcl8836 3 ай бұрын
Davinci Resolve
@johnblair8146
@johnblair8146 4 ай бұрын
Still doesn't protect NDA or TS/SCI material.
@Adobe
@Adobe 4 ай бұрын
Our users can confidently create and edit NDA content using our products and services. We do not scan or review content on your local device (computer, phone or tablet). For more information, visit: adobe.ly/3XpUUS9
@RoysBedoys-ss9qn
@RoysBedoys-ss9qn 4 ай бұрын
​@@Adobe what if you reboot flash player in the release date
@NoHope-WhatSoEver
@NoHope-WhatSoEver 4 ай бұрын
​@@Adobeyou take from me, I take from you... Just pirate this program people! Looks like the average person without a voice ain't the only ones who uses your program. Some of the most powerful people in the world do too That's your biggest mistake. The old saying: don't steal from the rich, only steal from the poor.
@beverlyprice786
@beverlyprice786 4 ай бұрын
Any new photoshop services that will not try to put us creators out of business? I still don’t trust Adobe and the terms still aren’t clear!
@filmdesigner800
@filmdesigner800 3 ай бұрын
@@Adobe so as far as i understand this if anything on say LR or Portfolio IS NOT made public its not scanned or reviewed correct. I share groups of photos via LR app but by invite and none are posted to the general public. In Portfolio its password protected and again not publicly posted so it not scanned or used ? Yes ? My work is covered by NDAs with film studios. I dont think they would like it if your looking at their copyrighted IP.
@derhofsklave3458
@derhofsklave3458 3 ай бұрын
Adobe spies on its users Ich nutzte Photoshop seit knapp 30 Jahren (!) und habe Adobe als seriöse Firma eingeschätzt. Das muss ich jetzt revidieren. Adobe macht nichts anderes, als seine treuen (und zahlenden!) Nutzer auszuspionieren. Überdies schreibt Adobe ihnen vor, was sie zu tun und zu lassen haben. Adobe ist aber nicht mein Kindermädchen! Ich möchte mit einem Bildprogramm arbeiten aber mir ganz sicher nicht vorschreiben lassen, was ich damit mache. Schon gar nicht möchte ich, dass meine privaten Bilder von irgendwelchen Hanseln begutachtet oder genutzt werden. Auch nicht von KI! Aktfotographie ist ein legales fotographisches Genre. Auf Aktfotos sind Personen abgebildet, die dem Fotographen (!) für den abgebildeten Körper eine Lizenz gewähren. Diese hat zunächst niemand anzusehen, ausser der Fotograph und das Model. Adobe betreibt mit seinem Ausspionieren die reinste Persönlichkeitsverletzung und greift in intimste Bereiche ein. Man stelle sich mal vor, Makita baut Kameras in ihre Akkuschrauber ein, um zu überprüfen, was man damit macht! Und wenn man etwas macht, was MAKITA nicht gefällt, dann funktioniert der Akkuschrauber nicht mehr. Das ist doch schizophren! Und was machen die ganzen Programme, die nach beenden eines Adobe Programmes immer noch hartnäckig weiterlaufen und ins Internet konnektieren?? Allein das ist ein Grund zu kündigen! Taskkill /IM Photoshop.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM Creative Cloud /T /F Taskkill /IM AdobeNotificationClient.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM AdobeNotificationHelper.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM RuntimeBroker.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM CreativeCloud.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM CCXProcess.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM Adobe Crash Processor.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM CCLibrary.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM CoreSync.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM Creative Cloud Helper.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM AdobeIPCBroker.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM CRWindowsClientService.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM Adobe Desktop Service.exe /T /F Taskkill /IM "Creative Cloud Core Service (32 bit)" /T /F Taskkill /IM AdobeUpdateService.exe /T /F WAS IST DAS ALLES???? Verdammt! Diese Scheisse hat sich zu schliessen, wenn ich nicht mehr mit Photoshop arbeite! YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS MY CONTENT!!!
@cionm7077
@cionm7077 3 ай бұрын
I have been a customer for 6 years but no anymore, just unsubscribed and deleted my account. I loved working in photoshop and even looked forward to finally be able to afford it when I was a teenager and was glad to be able to use when I got my first job, but now I will look into another software. I do not give you a license to MY work. I dont care what things you claim you are going to use it for, especially because we can never check if you are actually not using it for training AI and then selling that product. Believing that you are not stealing requires the customer to have trust in the company and I cant trust this company. Adobe has zero respect or consideration for its customers, I can only pray that there is someone out there with a conscience to make products that artists can use.
@FierceNinja
@FierceNinja 2 ай бұрын
I'm super excited to cancel my subscription when it doesn't cost money to cancel, I'm definitely not going to pirate it after in a way that will give adobe zero revenue
@WasifKhanGD
@WasifKhanGD 4 ай бұрын
I have one only thing to say, why you guys don't clarify these details in the first place and did ask users to accept those unclear terms? It's seems like doing all of this on purpose.
@godmodel33t11
@godmodel33t11 3 ай бұрын
Uninstalled
@ivaniv83
@ivaniv83 4 ай бұрын
The last blunder was just the straw that broke the camel's back. People have been complaining about your software and pricing model for YEARS and you have done nothing to adress critical issues that have plagued your software. Instead, you've chosen to chase this new AI bubble and to turn away from the people that actually use your products. I don't care how good Generative Fill is when Photoshop refuses to work with my GPU and the only answer you find on the official forum is "turn off your gpu". I don't care how good 3D Materials and Text To Vector is when Illustrator starts chugging when I have more than 1 raster image on an artboard. Fix your shit Adobe.
@jamphire_
@jamphire_ 3 ай бұрын
Okay, where do I begin... I've been entertaining the idea of not using Adobe for a long time now. After roughly 16 years of use, I’ve genuinely decided to move to better alternatives. It's a hard, long process to fully transition any workflow, but I’ve reached my breaking point. I know this comment won’t change anything, and I know I’m just another user, but I feel compelled to list my problems with Adobe and explain why I’m leaving. Reasons why I’m done with Adobe: 1. Software packed with bloatware. 2. Not being able to buy a version of the software and being forced into renting via a subscription model. 3. High cost over time. 4. Forcing Creative Cloud or unwanted changes on the end user. 5. Using shady tactics to make it difficult to opt out, remove, or even shut down any of their services (even closing Creative Cloud is designed to be as inconvenient as possible). 6. Having services collect data by default and pushing for more data collection. 7. Removing or intentionally gatekeeping features to force users to buy and use other products. 8. Monopolizing the industry and destroying competitors. 9. Almost no feature updates due to the forced subscription service, only adding features when threatened by other software (e.g., adding AI generative features after open-source projects like Stable Diffusion and free plugins that connect to Photoshop). 10. Having a mess of software with an outdated UI and inconsistently placed features, with some features duplicated and sometimes unfinished. 11. Buggy software with tons of crashes (worst case so far is Premiere). 12. Changing the TOS frequently to abuse individual privacy or create more ways to extract money from users (I really believe this is criminal behavior and the government should investigate the heads of the company. Shamelessly claiming they collect data to prevent things like CP is just another level of evil). 13. Claiming ownership of your content and backpedaling after users find out. 14. Lobbying politicians and the government to avoid getting dissolved due to monopolizing, or lobbying for more control. 15. Anti-competitor behaviors (e.g., having strategies in place for universities to only teach and use Adobe products, aggressive advertising). 16. Forcing users to access some features and making them cloud-dependent. 17. Proprietary formats making it as hard as possible to avoid using Adobe products in shared workflows. 18. Locking users out from accessing some content after expiration or cancellation. I have more examples for each of these points, but I’m trying to keep this comment as short as possible.
@meskonyolsen6657
@meskonyolsen6657 13 күн бұрын
Hey girl! can you play an Ukulele and apologize anyone? please..? 🥺🥺
@robertanthonybermudez5545
@robertanthonybermudez5545 3 ай бұрын
to Afinity and beyond!
@HansJrgenFurfjord
@HansJrgenFurfjord 4 ай бұрын
The dislikes for this video is many times higher than the likes (get the reveal extension). The likes are all Adobe employees instructed to like the video.
@barryduff9839
@barryduff9839 3 ай бұрын
Quit with weasel words. Everything should be opt in. Not opt out. Opt out should be the default. Plus you should not be the thought police. Plus TOS should be black and white and simple for the layperson to understand. Let’s face it you thought the customer would not find out and it failed spectacularly.
@SIVA6619
@SIVA6619 3 ай бұрын
How about a boycott of this evil company ?
@pipeliner8969
@pipeliner8969 4 ай бұрын
RIP ADOBE RIP
@AndersonOlivei
@AndersonOlivei 3 ай бұрын
Anyone knows some after effects alternatives?
@BLOODYHACKER
@BLOODYHACKER 4 ай бұрын
5:11 you don't need any of those, none of those are automated it's us posting those manually so why you need all the permission??? When it's us literally pressing needed buttons?? And don't that alone mean we want it to be posted??
@maxwellanderson007
@maxwellanderson007 3 ай бұрын
I am so proud that I never paid a single penny for adobe products. All pirated by me the last 10 years.
2 ай бұрын
Sorry, but you really have missed the point. Where was the Opt-out button? First, it was the price hikes, next it was being sued by the FTC for abusing early termination fees, and now this. I can only tolerate so much. No more Adobe subscription for me. I'm taking my money elsewhere.
@ClearGlassStudios281
@ClearGlassStudios281 4 ай бұрын
Put this woman in a suit. The plain shirt isn't fooling anyone.
@ether
@ether 4 ай бұрын
0:33 Thanks for clarifying it! Appreciate you telling us that you presently "DON'T train generative AI models on your content." Now I know you only DID that when you opted us in by default before the latest PS updates. Very reassuring! 😑 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epypoYp6jtyiZ80si=A5vCy2OkstzQa5XX&t=171
@Kresy-c4h
@Kresy-c4h 3 ай бұрын
Hey Jessica fellow lawyer here you don't make terms like these even in your drems because first you are charging your coustomers with a clearly predatory pricing and then you introduce these bs terms if Adobe is an intellectual property and does not tolerate pirating it's software then how come you think Adobe's new terms aren't doing the same a crime is a crime no matter who commits it if a consumer is creating anything Adobe's software then it gives you no right to maliciously use it better not talk about owning it
@englishcyclist
@englishcyclist 2 ай бұрын
Too late, moved on to anyone else.
@EGPhil
@EGPhil 3 ай бұрын
She is their lawyer, not yours.
@JSAbbott
@JSAbbott 4 ай бұрын
4.3(B) "We will not (and cannot) grant a sublicense to a third party that is greater than the rights you give us." So, you can still sublicense MY property to a third party? Like someone else who will use it for AI or marketing? I'm so glad I deleted my Behance and cancelled my subscription.
@freddyEEE
@freddyEEE 4 ай бұрын
Just plugged 4.3(B) into copilot and here's what it gave me back "Purpose: Adobe uses your Cloud Content (such as files) for internal analysis. The analysis includes understanding how you use their Services and Software and examining content characteristics. License Granted: You grant Adobe a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free license to: Reproduce your Cloud Content (e.g., make copies for internal storage). Create derivative works (e.g., convert between file formats or crop content). Sublicense these rights to trusted third parties (subject to confidentiality and privacy restrictions). Limitations: Adobe won’t publicly display your Content or allow third parties to improve their products using it. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions or need further clarification! 😊"
@JSAbbott
@JSAbbott 4 ай бұрын
@@freddyEEE Like I said - they have a sublicense to everything and can give that license to THIRD PARTIES even if I would be under NDA! I cancelled CC and deleted Behance.
@NADNIJ
@NADNIJ Ай бұрын
Adobe has been super annoying since the recent updates, its buggy and the interface is so messed up, other than generative fill the updates are next to useless money grab. Im glad ppl are switching to alternatives like affinity photo and cancelling subscriptions, hope adobe will be replaced by other ai software in future.
@rosellalee5529
@rosellalee5529 4 ай бұрын
For a media software that cgi is terrible
@creativepicnl
@creativepicnl 3 ай бұрын
I already purchased Affinity just in case.
@DonutGroove
@DonutGroove 4 ай бұрын
the language was not an issue. We get that we pay good money to use Adobe apps and it forced their costumers to agree to a ToU that let Adobe acess personal files for whatever reason they see fit and potentially use it to "improve their products" (we know it's AI). Funny thing that you have to opt-out also directly on Photoshop app, which means it's not only cloud files that Adobe seems to has acess. Costumers couldn't even uninstall the apps or acess their clouds without agreeing first. That's very predatory.
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