Adrian Durham RAGES At Gareth Southgate For NOT USING More Attacking Players For England 🤬🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Adrian Durham gives his view on England under Gareth Southgate at EURO 2024.
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[@richardjones8699]

Because he's more concerned about 'not losing' games than winning them. That's predominantly his mindset.

[@perfectstorm7379]

A defenders mindset.

[@afrdy1]

Absolutely spot on

[@ps5andstuffhere]

He is a defender yes. Also stuck with Kane. Pickford is also not a modern day goalkeeper. Awful kicking and passing.

[@royalw4rfare]

Every England managers mindset

[@simonjess8471]

He would be a perfectly decent manager, if we had very average players. We don't though.

[@phil5357]

Is Foden a better player than Gordon? Yes, probably. Is Foden a better left winger than Gordon? No chance. Southgate did what most England managers do - pick who they perceive to be the best XI players, shoehorn them into a team, and hope it works

[@trinihammer]

should have brought rashford to the euros.

[@landothomas1118]

Coach didn’t want to hurt Foden’s feelings. I said from game 2 that Foden should have been benched for balance purposes.

[@mcharrisment4765]

@@trinihammer - have you lost the plot. GS may as well of chosen Delli Ali in his 26 as well

[@jaybe2908]

@@mcharrisment4765 He has a point, if you are not going to use Gordon at all, well you might as well have taken Rashford, he would have been better to bring on for Foden as he can score goals.

[@paulorganisation1]

Foden played must games for mancity on the left. These guys a deluded.

[@joewhite22]

Imagine using "too many players" as an excuse after the manager has been accused all tournament of not making changes enough. More players should be seen as a blessing with all the talent we have available.

[@MaticulousGamer]

it's seriously ridiculous... its all political-friends nonsense. De La Fuente would've been torn to bits if he lost to England

[@jimcooper1053]

Ridiculous comment that was from Shaun

[@paulorganisation1]

Foden played must games for mancity on the left. These guys a deluded.

[@zinedinezidane4771]

Suited their system.

[@Jhelil]

@@paulorganisation1you’re really gonna compare Pep’s system to Southgate’s Vibes FC?

[@LevyHappyClapper]

Basically Southgate has a bunch of star players ... but has no idea how to actually construct a TEAM ...

[@petersmith-yg7me]

What star players . Not a patch on the England players of the early 2000s who couldn t even make a final .

[@subculture2006]

@@petersmith-yg7me Google 'critical thinking' and then give it another go. Sven was useless but he had tough draws, a weaker squad outside the starting 11, and most of our rivals then were very strong. e,g look at Germany, Italy, Holland, and Brazil with Ronaldo and Ronaldinho.

[@denis888red]

@@subculture2006 Spot on

[@user-ce7xw3fx6q]

Said the man who's a top manager????who for 😂😂😂😂 easy to criticise have you ever held a top job??????doubt it labour are you 😂😂😂😂😂

[@blueleaf1717]

@@petersmith-yg7me Even players of that early 2000s generation were massively overrated though, Gerrard, Lampard etc great players for their clubs but nowhere near world class like they were often painted to be and the same could be said for this current crop. The problem is however, none of that spanish team were world class either, certainly no stronger a squad than England but these other teams still always find a way of winning, we don't.

[@thenglihcollector984]

Southgate sees Palmer as a super sub and doesn't realise he can create for 90mins

[@rigsby1454]

He did start and did nothing. He's a good player but he's a player who's been gassed up because he hasn't played

[@j2thebee]

he does ok when he starts at Chelsea

[@adrianmarrinan7707]

​@@rigsby1454 when did he start?

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

@@rigsby1454 Incorrect. Research first.

[@BoxingYT-kw2gb]

​@@rigsby1454talking rubbish. He got a combined total of 75 minutes, probably, all tournament.

[@optimusd3854]

When Stones when on his run and we lost possession and they broke out on us I was worried, but then I realised Kane would be back there.

[@hamonryechinaski180]

👍🤣🤣

[@delv2473]

When Stones went on his run it fizzled out because Kane was static and did not peel off or make a move to give Stones a passing option or dragging a defender away . . Kane got in the way. I cant believe I am saying this about him as I am a big fan . He lied about injury in the CL and Lucas moura , hatrick hero of the semi was benched. he missed games before the final just like now with bayern . Shocking decisions from him and Southgate.

[@daveywhyte6254]

😂 😂

[@tamimhusain3376]

Virgil Van Kane

[@randomas5565]

@@delv2473Yh people keep blaming Southgate but when does the player take responsibility and say sorry gaffer I’m not fit I think we have a better chance if I don’t start

[@subculture2006]

Southgate has been carried by the players and lucky draws. He is one of the worst managers I've ever seen. No club will take him after he leaves England.

[@l.u4871]

More so the lucky draws , quite remarkable how its fallen for them 3 tourneys in a row

[@christineclarke1513]

I believe his friend dan ashworth is trying to manovure him into the man utd managers job,Hence ten hag only been giving a 1 year extension on his contract

[@subculture2006]

@@l.u4871 I fear that IF the FA do perform a Christmas miracle and hire a decent manager (for a change) they will then have a series of the unluckiest draws as things balance themselves out.

[@LordBranniganThe]

Blame the manager, get another one. Wash rinse repeat. God forbid you actually come to the realisation that English players are just highly overrated

[@Weegie72]

That's not true, I mean rangers hired Beale and Clement, who's have imagined they could get managerial jobs

[@Prometheus4096]

WTF is the guy on the right saying? England lost because they had too many players? Players who Southgate didn't even want to bring with him and who never were even subbed in. WTF is this guy about? England couldn't play better because the pundits asked for players who played zero minutes? WUT? First of all, it is Southgate's job to keep the subs happy. If he can't do that, why is he manager? Second, it is not his job to keep the pundits happy. If England play excellent and win, but a pundit is annoyed or not happy because Gordon only played 2 minutes? What! The rules of the tournament were 26 players. Yes, it makes a difference. Maybe England would have been favoured by 23 player squads. But it was 26. Which means you need to win a tournament where 26-sized teams compete. You can't pretend then as if you are in some different tournament, where teams of 23 players compete. That wasn't this tournament. If 2 or 3 players were disruptions in the locker room, it is on Southgate that he brought those players with him. He selected the first 23 and the last 3. On top of that, from the 11 Southgate picked pretournament, 3 of them played badly. Meaning they needed to be subbed. And if this wasn't a 26 player squad, he would have less good options to adjust. His plan A never worked. If you have more players, you have a better plan B, plan C and plan D. And then finally, 26 indeed gives more options. Which favours teams with managers who can handle those options. More choices means more room for mistakes. More subs and larger squads means the manager needs to make more decisions. And therefore the effect the manager has on the team is larger. So is the argument then that Southgate is a bad manager? Both at keeping the locker room happy? And at picking the right squad, making the right changes or tactical adjustments, and subbing the right players at the right time?

[@davidpeters3857]

He is an absolute plonker

[@johnkeohane4239]

Waffle waffle waffle. You honestly think someone will read all that ?

[@peppercrybeatz]

Too long bro

[@Prometheus4096]

@@peppercrybeatz Long what?

[@peppercrybeatz]

@@Prometheus4096 too many words lol

[@georgedavisisinnocent79]

What's infuriating is that we can all see what he should do but he simply doesn't and will not do it.

[@cha9165]

That's the infuriating thing about it. What was southgate thinking? It's like he wanted us to lose

[@Whtsssggd]

Can anyone remember a final where harry kane didn’t appear injured ?

[@rjd543]

He was not injured though. People used to laugh about how he’d never scored in September yet never actually analysed why. Kane takes a while to get match fit so after a break from the league season ending he gets picked despite losing his match fitness in these summer tournaments. Look at every major international tournament and don’t ignore the fact that the majority of his goals came down to penalties and a fluke when he won the golden boot in a World Cup

[@itsallgood8347]

He's not naturally athletic, or fit, for a pro. Since 2019 I've been saying that he looks like he's carrying a piano on the pitch. His goals masked this. But that was for Spurs, who tailored the team to him, and linked him up with Son, when Kane dropped off. As the seasons go on, it's showing more and more.

[@craigbarnett9489]

Been saying this since we gave the last Euro final away to Italy. Southgate has cost us the chance of winning 2 finals. Spain were very good by the way but at least have a go after you’ve equalised ffs!!

[@johnnyhock]

It’s totally embarrassing when pundits from Serbia and Slovenia describe England as a “long ball team” Best generation of gifted players for years and they get a Sunday League coach on £5M per year !

[@thrilla72]

John Stones demanded that Pickford play the ball out but he refused and punted it long. It happened several times

[@Niex_Knox]

​@@thrilla72well he kept getting it back as spain was advancing no choice really

[@ruhelmiah2133]

Again only England fan think we have world class player. They are one of the worst technical player in the tournament. That's nothing to do with the manager

[@DannyTaylorDT]

⁠@@ruhelmiah2133absolute nonsense, Stones, Shaw, Mainoo, Foden, Kane, Saka are bad technical players? 😂

[@ruhelmiah2133]

@DannyTaylorDT yes they are. Clearly they showed nothing on the pitch. Non of the English player are technically good. Clearly you don't understand football to make this comment.

[@user-wo3xg3ed1d]

The problem with Southgate he played the same team nearly ever game and now u saying the players are tried

[@Prometheus4096]

He also played the same team every game with the deliberate instruction to try to reach penalties rather than attack and win the game in regular time. Of course they are going to get tired! Spain played 90 minutes every game and they even had games where they could relax the last 30 minutes.

[@hearmenow909]

It's a manager's job to recognise if players are tired, we could all see it, and he's with them most of the tournament, so Gareth has no excuses on that one, that's on him. He had options, but not much bottle.

[@jhonb2556]

Same team , without even knowing what his best team is . I knew we would struggle when he was still tinkering in the group games .

[@Jabarri74]

@@jhonb2556 Or formation, gambled on copying Swiss halfway through and stuck with it.

[@johnnyhock]

Kane was SH1T from minute one throughout the tournament… He played every game almost every minute, his stats are appallingly bad. EG in the Final, he had ONE touch in the opposition box - no shots, nothing ! Only when he was hooked off did things start to happen ! England might as well have played with 10 men !

[@cha9165]

And gareth still played him in the final. Imagine if palmer and Watkins had played

[@Allegro_Giusto]

Add clubfoot Rice on to that. Atleast we cancsay Kane say Southgaes 'tactics' didn't compliment his way of playing as said in the clip. Rice jas no excuse and was further exposed. Cannot stand him. Rice Rice baby 🤮

[@iambeyondfake]

Watkins came on for the last 35 minutes and did absolutely nothing. Easy to find a scapegoat. ​@@cha9165

[@janettinkler2204]

Totally agree, every time the ball was passed to Kane he was just stood there with his mouth open not an ounce of movement 🤦🏻 seriously I’ve seen more life in a tramps vest ffs

[@LevyHappyClapper]

you would think Southgate had no other options in the squad other than kane ...wtf

[@Le4thl3]

Wasn’t Adrian Durham gushing over Southgate the other day and criticising fans for calling him out, now he’s here doing a U turn

[@cha9165]

Yes

[@kumingo]

Recall him saying to respect his name.

[@czhaok]

Wonder if anyone had the guts to ask Harry categorically was you or was you not injured. He’s a national disgrace choosing personal potential glory over country.

[@environm3ntalist549]

Yes he was asked.

[@akerfeldt4068]

Were you

[@OnlyUseMyCrossbow]

A national disgrace wtf lmfao. Listen to you armchair mongs slagging him off like this. Our horrible "supporters" are the only actual national disgrace I see here. Vile and nasty twats looking to bury people like Kane because you're salty, you deserve nothing anyway so don't worry your pretty little heads about it. 😂

[@paulmurray7671]

He was asked but wouldn't answer (which is an answer in itself)

[@Petal4822]

A European Final and you start Kane, who can’t run.

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Kane was major problem. Pickford is also not a modern style keeper. Awful kicking and passing

[@daveywhyte6254]

Pickford was probably our best player in the final.

[@stewartallison106]

blaming Pickford... he stopped it being a Cricket score and saved 2 penalties in the last Euros final... yeah Pickford is to blame...😅

[@ps5andstuffhere]

At one point he had to save himself. He did a terrible kick out and they got the ball straight away and created a chance. I watch Arsenal every week so I watch modern football and can't have a keeper like this. Against Denmark was also very bad. Arteta would kick this guy out asap

[@user-rq8si4eu1s]

Pickford great but needs to work on that area of his game which I’m sure he can correct

[@mrpk1719]

As Roy Keane would say "He looks like a league 2 manager" which is an insult to league 2 managers.

[@Jabarri74]

As a fan of a league 2 side, I feel its direspectful to even suggest we would want him. Yeah we're low but not that low

[@nicolasb.henry294]

I am Belgian and the second team I support is England but...we both have amazing foot players, a Golden Generation but our FA killed those generatIon by choosing average managers. How could you win an Euro with Southgate and Tedesco as managers. Come on!

[@KeepingWatchUK]

The second team you support 😂

[@rayhankhan8992]

england squd is 10 times better than belgium

[@thrilla72]

​@@rayhankhan8992 no it isn't

[@nicolasb.henry294]

@@rayhankhan8992 Yes but finally you are at the same level as us...pathetic football

[@nicolasb.henry294]

@@KeepingWatchUK Yes and we both playing walking dead football. We have Lukaku you have Kane...

[@registame2878]

This is the same guy that was saying Gareth was great… 😂😂😂 what a joke

[@proffpuff]

1966 Alf Ramsey dropped Jimmy Greaves the best England striker ever and we won

[@kooler8586]

That was due to injurie

[@davidpeters3857]

He didn’t drop him 👀 he was injured

[@matthewgreenwood5074]

also there was NO subs allowed back then either..he lost his place due to injury..geoff hurst came in..the rest as they say..is history...

[@FOVKRO]

@@kooler8586jimmy greaves was available to play in the final but Ramsey decided against changing winning team from the qf and sf (having played in all the group games, but got injured against France)

[@Lunapodthe1st]

​@@davidpeters3857he was injured for the quarters and semis and dropped for the final.

[@elchoppo1160]

Just think, in 20 years time today's 5 and 6 year old kids will read about past results of World Cups and Euros and think Gareth Southgate must have been an elite England manager !

[@neilhards1725]

Funny you should say that, as when I was growing up after 1970 we never even qualified for a tournament for 12 years!! Now that was dire!

[@gooner73clark88]

@@neilhards1725it was much much tougher to qualify for tournaments back then though. World Cup 16 teams, Euros 8 teams. England’s qualifying groups for the 74 and 78 world cups had much stronger opponents than anything Southgate has faced in the qualifying and all the group stages of the tournaments he’s been in. And any time Southgate has faced a decent opponent, he has lost. His record of ‘’success’’ is very misleading.

[@neilhards1725]

@@gooner73clark88 Well I wouldn't agree with that. In 74 it was a 3 team qualifying group with Wales and Poland. Who back on those days were not the football nations they are now and in 78 we had Luxembourg and Finland in our group who again in those days were part time, we failed on goal difference as we didn't score enough. I still have nightmares of the Poland game at Wembley when Shilton went down like a sack of spuds on Polands only attack. So it was pretty dire. I get people's frustration, but at least were competing at the later end of tournaments rather than not being there. Still it's all about opinions.

[@John-jw8rx]

Why he won nothing

[@gooner73clark88]

@@neilhards1725 fair enough mate, although Poland were Olympic champions at the time and they went on to each the semi final in 74 so they were a good side. In 78 the team we missed out on goal difference to was Italy. Those days it was ruthless where only 1 team qualified. These days it’s 2 or even 3 that can so it’s almost impossible not to. But I totally respect your view on it 👍🏻

[@davidjames1377]

Great show and exactly right. Too negative, too defensive, too nervous. He kept his players on a leash.

[@yasheenmahabeer]

Why isn’t anybody talking about Kyle Walker? He was caught out of position so many times in that final and made some rash decisions

[@joewhite22]

His crossing was also horrendous. He had a terrible tournament. We'd have been better off playing Trent there and then we'd at least have got some decent deliveries from set pieces.

[@craigbarnett9489]

They all played like headless chickens but i agree, Walker had a terrible game

[@davidjames1377]

Should have played Tripps RB or RWB.

[@ryanr4555]

​@@davidjames1377Tripp's was shite 2

[@michaeldooley5398]

Yabba dabba do .

[@Petal4822]

A European Final and you start Kane, who can’t run.

[@MJ-qc2zh]

Can’t do Fck all for 80 minutes. Smh

[@danieljamesjones3918]

And can’t win

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

He is spot on about trent and palmer. England never ever play those players. Paul scholes, hoddle were the same

[@paulfinnegan9160]

True now you say Trent or Gordon. That 4231 doesn't seem to work unless you are Man City. Pickford wasn't too bad to be fair 😂

[@npscholes]

Add Carrick to that list

[@willhitchcock6227]

Scholes had loads of chances and was useless. He wasn't wasn't creative player. 3 assists a season at man u. Scholes was a goal getter

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

@will 😂😂😂😂 wow shows how little you know then. Scholes was played out if position was years at england. Plus being a playmaker is nit always about assists. Alonso, xavi, pirlo etc didn’t get loads of assists yet were the most clever players on any pitch

[@paulorganisation1]

Foden played must games for mancity on the left. These guys a deluded.

[@deco2132]

Foden was Englands worst player at the tournament - lets be honest he was anonymous the whole tournament but was never dropped. Playing Bellingham on the LW to accommodate Foden in the Final was a shocking decision.

[@saintdon4461]

kane was worse

[@hamonryechinaski180]

I'd have loved to have tried Bellingham alongside Rice and a left footed player like Gordon or Maddison on left in friendly pre tournament or in last group game. Esp last group game when we'd been so unbalanced and poor! Foden and Bellingham were constantly stood together, Foden seems to struggle away from City snd Peps system. Palmer looked far better than Foden. Southgate has reached his limit. England need a front foot, pressing coach and I don't care if he's English or not! I DO care about England not going back to a clique of different clubs, the team ethos Southgate managed to create needs to continue.

[@hearmenow909]

@@saintdon4461 At least Kane scored 3 goals.

[@saintdon4461]

@@hearmenow909 penalties and an header from a few yards that i could have scored

[@Dan23213]

Is coaching problems my friend. Foden is the best player in PL.

[@cha9165]

Every game those players saved southgate. Southgate was clueless throughout the whole tournament

[@ianking6827]

In all major competitions when we have faced an elite side,Southgate has fell short,and in all those respective competitions we have been extremely lucky to the point where we have lost, because we have had a favourable draw or been in the right side of the draw.Spain fully deserved their win and we need understand why they are serial winners and we are trophy dodgers?

[@user-nl8vz9md7e]

"Trophy Dodgers" That's class . Can I steal it? Please.

[@dguitar3831]

Spain only started winning at the end of the last decade, before that they were serial underachievers for decades!

[@ianking6827]

@@user-nl8vz9md7e Absolutely 👍

[@ikbev]

The coach is the problem here. History is riddled with national teams where great players are left out and it’s because in international football it’s all about balance: southgate ignorantly wants to play all his favorites all at the same time regardless of tactic, position, opposition etc one of foden or Bellingham should have been on the bench from day one as they play the same position and a very similar. None is untouchable. The team was not balanced playing 2 10s out of position is crazy. Then in midfield you play two box to box mids or at the very least two mids that want to be box to box. Southgate lacks the guts for international football. England got to the final because they were in the lucky side of the draw. It would have been very different if they had been on the other side.

[@Jabarri74]

Fantasy football team with 7 strikers. In fact picking the team from fantasy football would have probably been better as it forces you into a system and picks players in their correct positions

[@paulchristopher8634]

When we had just scored, England supporters were shouting “ Attack, Attack, Attack “….. But what did Gareth Southgate do. He told the team to play negative football by defending the goal

[@Ayah_Mia]

All the success that he had was simply because of luck and depended on player brilliance, not his tactical IQ. Southgate is the most clueless rubbish yet the luckiest England manager ever ffs! And it won't do us any justice if we win it yesterday and suddenly we acknowledge him as Sir Gareth Southgate!! Absolute disgrace if that were to happen!!

[@michaeldooley5398]

what success he's won nothing .

[@ianbones03]

Everything Adrian Durham said is spot on.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Makes a change !

[@Shdjdjxbdksk]

No one talking about Saka as we’re not allowed are we. Left Kyle Walker one on one time and time again, when Williams or Cucurella were attacking Saka was literally walking back at a snails pace. Also going forward he didn’t attack Cucurella once. Kane shouldn’t of been anywhere near the starting lineup, Bellingham look shattered after 60 minutes every single game, Foden was awful. Gordon might as well of gone on holiday, 5 minutes in the whole tournament is a joke.

[@rea_lifeson8897]

Enjoyed your comment but what is 'shouldn't of'? Do you mean shouldn't have?

[@hamonryechinaski180]

👍💯 Custace is talking rubbish. Kane was rubbish and Southgate claiming Gordon is too similar to other players or he couldn't pick Palmer, Watkins or whoever cos they're too similar? Rubbish. Southgate is too defensive and Kane hindered.

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Walker was out of position. Spain manager changed some stuff at half time and Southgate had no idea what to do

[@Dan23213]

My friend is your coach problem so leave the players alone.

[@Shdjdjxbdksk]

@@rea_lifeson8897 If that makes you happy mate then yes.

[@proffpuff]

Southgate what are his qualifications ? How many FA executives are going to own this? Answer to both zero

[@Prometheus4096]

He coached England Under 21.

[@subculture2006]

He managed to get a then decent Middlesborough team relegated in his only club job. Doesn't that qualify?

[@robertdixon9701]

TAA at right full back, and you win games. The boys is the best passer, crosser and free kick taker in the squad . Liverpool used to use Henderson to cover for TAA , are you telling me the Rice or Mainoo can’t do what Henderson can do?

[@PaperbackJourneys]

Sometimes I wonder if there could have been a worse manager for England and then I hear this bloke on the right speak and I think... wow... these clueless fellas are everywhere!!! "He had too many players!" 😮

[@richardpriestley1491]

We needed pace up top, we had none. Kane has no pace and also was unable to hold the ball up, which meant we couldn’t build up play with any threat. Southgate knew this but didn’t have the balls to start a game without him ??!!

[@andyp4108]

'Players on the bench were much of a muchness'....please tell me how Anthony Gordon and Phil Foden are 'much of a muchness'

[@cklambo]

It that were true, its the manager's fault for not picking a more varied squad

[@CorporalFriendlyShark]

I’m delighted more and more people are seeing through Southgate, I’ve been saying it for years, England have reached these finals and semi-finals in spite of him, through individual player moments and set-piece goals. His teams lack identity, have no apparent tactics and have fluked their way through tournaments under him.

[@nanaofori9056]

Southgate out

[@l.u4871]

Foden has a glaring issue. He's not tricky or fast enough to play on the wing despite his immense technical ability. He's not creative at all, to playmake as a 10 . The Man city system really hide his deficiencies

[@Prometheus4096]

True. But that is also inexperience. There's a lot of top talent that can thrive under specific conditions that club coaches can generate for them.

[@steves1460]

Guardiola plays a system that compliments the skillset of his players and look what happens. Southgate’s mantra is defend, defend, defend!

[@EmptyGlass99]

Southgate learned nothing from the Scholes/Lampard/Gerrard farce. You can't play your best 11 players if they all play in the same position, it's as simple as that. Secondly, you can't play Harry Kane unless he has players who want to run in behind. Total failure of basic management.

[@brelshar4968]

Oh well at least Bowen, Gordon, TAA and others had a nice holiday.

[@cklambo]

And Shaw got a nice warmup session before the season starts

[@bigceazer]

pretenders got found out by a proper team, had an easy route to the final (AGAIN) with bags of luck & help from refs but your luck finally ran out. Football won last night!

[@MJ-qc2zh]

Preach

[@latchmandrepaul9108]

Absolutely spot on

[@LordBranniganThe]

Shhhh let them live in delusion. It’s the managers fault. Once again.

[@LOGOS422]

Southgate isn't good enough, that's clear. But England will continue to fail to win big tournaments until they start producing world class midfielders who can control games. It's the most important area of the field to control matches at the highest level, and the area England are usually weakest.

[@LukeSkywalker-io2bh]

No, it's the culture in the FA or something. You need to be ruthless as a manager not some namby pamby Southgate snowflake. This is business.

[@Waltvon]

I’ve watched a lot of PL games and never thought much of Cucarella at Chelsea. Basically not a good player there but turns out the Spanish coach gets the best out of him, he has a fantastic tournament and now I know it comes down to manager/coach.

[@ronaldworth4146]

His use of subs was poor their blaming fatigue so why didn’t he change it

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

Ahh the standard after tournament excuses. Any of the English media ever going to say we are not good enough as a nation and thats the main concern. The prem is possibly the best league but the English players are not the best. Individual world class players but that’s different than having world class team

[@nudisco7882]

Well put.

[@paulmurray7671]

To be fair, everyone was critical throughout the tournament because we knew it would eventually end in failure as the tactics and selection were wrong. It would be different if everyone was waxing lyrical throughout the tournament and then made excuses afterwards. The personnel is good enough to compete - this is the view of most people I've spoken to from around Europe, not just blinkered English fans / pundits

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

@paul nope! Only in England were the england seen as favourites. It’s the same every 2-4 years. The personnel is good enough to compete but never good enough to win Bug difference

[@paulmurray7671]

@docholiday-lm4vf teams with much worse personnel have won it (Greece) so that's simply not true. Personnel is important but without a good system and tactics, they have no chance

[@docholiday-lm4vf]

@paul in cup competitions there will be the upset or freak win pal. Thats the excitement of cup competitions. How have greece done in all other cups?

[@Thespian_nozy]

Is trent still the reason England didn't win ?

[@hearmenow909]

No mate, it was Kalvin Phillips!

[@monochromaticspider]

Probably the biggest competitive advantage England has over the other top teams is that the bench is so big, that so many subs can be made without a significant loss of quality. And what is this guy saying? There's too many players? Sod off. I don't want to sound chauvinist here, but dig deep, grow an effing pair, and manage things properly. Have players actually play their hearts and lungs out for 50-60 minutes, then swap over for fresh guys to do the same for the remaining 30. What other side can do that? What we saw were the same undroppable players doing the same uninspired and frankly uninvolved nonsense on the pitch, no synergy, no chemistry, no attempt at proper coordination. That's not a "too many players" problem, that's a manager too worried about pleasing his big names and not willing to step into character and actually do the job. Edit: And Southie couldn't decide because it was too much of a muchness? What on Earth kind of talk is that? If a manager can't decide then he shouldn't be manager. Not that this makes sense at face value, because Gordon and Eze aren't very similar at all, and Palmer isn't very similar to either of them. Ollie is a slightly more running center forward, Toney is a slightly more classic center forward, and Kane is a traffic cone with a talent for poaching. And if this collection doesn't give Southgate the necessary options then why did he pick them in the first place?

[@ChaimkeProductions]

harry kane - i remember as far back as the CL final when he did literally NOTHING for spurs against liverpool, such a poor performance, goes missing in games which matter, but pops up for a hat trick against malta

[@user-uf1nf5tk1c]

It’s really rather simple boys … we’ve got world class players without a world class manager

[@user-kh9hs5vk9c]

Who gets paid more than five times what Luis De La Fuente earns. Madness

[@IggyGoesPop666]

Clueless Southgate makes up excuses that the players didn't perform because they were tired when it was his choice to drive the same 11 - 13 players into the ground. After such as long season at club level, we should have used the complete squad whilst playing the right players in their natural positions instead of shoehorning everyone's favourites. Only play Bellingham for 60 minutes and then sub him off for Foden, play Watkins the same way and then bring Kane on at the end, it's not rocket science

[@BlueBloodPenn]

2:45 shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what a managers job is. It is not the national teams job to take the best players he has theoretically and make it work. It's the managers job to evaluate the talent he has available, create a system he believes will bring the most success with the squad he has, teach the system and give the players the confidence they need to perform. The job is to win the next football match. That's it. Not to appease players or the media or anyone. It's to win. If you go into building a system thinking "I have to play X, Y and Z" then you are sacrificing your system and style of play based on non-tactically considerations.

[@thrilla72]

That has been England for DECADES though. Maybe we should look at the employers of the managers because they all made this mistake

[@Prometheus4096]

Exactly. This is where Southgate, with a ton of experience as a national squad manager should have the advantage. A club coach like Guardiola or Klopp might make this mistake. Southgate shouldn't. If the rest of his players hate Bellingham, then Southgate needs to leave out Bellingham. Or take him and make it work anyway. If Kane is injured, Southgate needs to drop Kane. Or play him and make it work anyway. Southgate didn't do any of that. He took the safe decision at every point, and they were always bad decisions.

[@ryancross2513]

Watch Adam Whartons highlights on his debut. Crisp, quick passes and between the lines. Shocking he never got game time. He could have let the attacking players get higher up the pitch, knowing Wharton will find them.

[@GK123]

In time he will replace Rice. Which will help our transitions massively, as mainoo can't do it all the time

[@rayhankhan8992]

also, southgate was about to bring gallagher but then spain scored

[@thrilla72]

​@@GK123why would he replace Rice, he played very well

[@trinihammer]

@@thrilla72 rice kept giving the ball away.

[@GK123]

@thrilla72 when he receives the ball, especially from the defence, he takes twice as long as he should, which allows the opposition to reset. He needs a lot of open spaces to play passes which is easy in the Premier league. International football is more compact. Everytime he gets the ball I get a panic attack, it's like watching Scott mctominay.

[@weekendwarriorprospecting817]

£200k a week players putting in a £50 a week performance for 4 weeks. 🎉❤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@newhappiness4410]

Southgate playing cautiously when they start games and not killing games off to use our new players.

[@LB-xw5ks]

his game management and rotation is dreadful. starting the same team or making 1 change through the group. for 1 why take players who he clearly doesn’t trust or have the balls to make change. and another how can you set up a counter attacking team and play no one who’ll make runs in behind.

[@LB-xw5ks]

plus the draws have been mental. if we got put in the other end of the bracket we’d of been out in the last 16. and even when we get lucky draws we make it as hard as you can make it

[@mattwithey6810]

Luke shaw played 1 and a half games while tyrick Mitchell wasn’t even in the original squad. Embarrassing from Southgate

[@eugenemcelhinney2738]

I remember seeing Celtic beat Barcelona's great team in 2011 and Scotland beating France's great team in 2006. On both occasions the Scottish teams were dominated by superior sides but played clever containing football without parking the bus. Both sides then took their opportunities and proved you can beat superior opposition if you get your tactics right. Had either team gone toe to toe, they would have been destroyed. Same with England. Difference is England's media didn't see themselves as playing against a better team. Southgate did and did as well as could be reasonably expected.

[@um8778]

They're "RAGING" after claiming he was the best manager ever yesterday

[@Freestyla-]

Bro just woke up from a dream lmao literally no one said that ever

[@PaulDear-jb2bu]

One of England's main problems was that our players were far too static and didn't offer themselves up as attacking passing options. Often players would make a pass and then either stand and watch or make themselves only available for a negative reverse or sideways pass.

[@donmesut9587]

Listen we all know why England didn’t win, it’s because we did t have Calvin Phillips 😂

[@jameswhittingham8027]

I agree with Adrian Durham. If England had done what he said and not Gareth Southgate, England would've gotten to the final.

[@johnbobby1092]

Spot on the last caller . We've got players who are comfortable with the ball but a manager who has obviously been reading a book of tactical mouse from Ron greenwood 😂

[@andrewcottle5372]

England seemed to have a lot of luck getting to that final . Two last minute goals and a very dodgy penalty decision. Only played really well for 45 mins of the tournament.

[@ps5andstuffhere]

Gate has definitely reached his limit. It took him years to even start doing earlier subs

[@ClivesChronicles]

He set the team out to defend, Southgate explained it in his interview after losing to Spain. He threw all our strengths out the window. He reminds me of Moyes.

[@robwood8331]

Too many to choose from? This fkin guy has a job talking football as a living? What the actual F

[@Trudyrulez]

These critics would have behead Southgate if he had played a more daring style and lost. Southgate played to not loose because the homefront cannot handle a loss. So many English critics make their money by being critical that the result is a team that is scared to make mistakes. If you listen at the hateful nature of the language for a coach that actually made England an international competitor again, as if the English only deserve to win or else the team is not worthy of their admiration. Fact is that the English never got a modern playing style. If your team consists of English players half of them have learned the game from a Spanish coach, the others from a Portugese or German coach and some have learned the trade under traditional English coaches, none have learnt to play a modern English style because it doesn't exist. All the other nations play in a recognizable style and that results in teams that know what to do. The English were searching during the game and when they found answers they became shy, scared for being too risky, resulting in getting beheaded at home.

[@gustoaudio8711]

Being functional and well organised is fundamental in international football. Individual quality is the icing on the cake but our cake wasn’t baked properly

[@JamesAllen300]

It all went wrong before we had kicked a ball in the tournament. We didn't look good at all within the friendlies beforehand. If you stand any chance at all with doing something in the tournament, you don't go into it with issues which we clearly had. Not having a recognised good left back was disasterous. That alone was going to be where we were at a weak spot. Teams would exploit that side and they did. I think the 4231 was never going to work with our tactics. It should have been a 433. I would have dropped Kane after the first game and gone with Toney / Watkins up top. Drop Saka and put Foden out on the right. Out on the left would be Gordon. Front of the midfield 3 would be Bellinham, with Rice and Mainoo in behind. Back 4 had to be what we started with whcih was forced upon us with Shaw not being fit. Mark Geuhi was a stand out performer in the England Shirt.

[@craigwhite380]

I'm English but wonder why we always think we'll win a international comp because we have 2 exceptional players. Spain has 6 work class players, Germany had 3 exceptional players, Georgia had 3 exceptional players and so on and son on. So someone explain to me why everyone so disappointed in something all us English knew would happen.

[@dominicfernandes6484]

Got to stop using ‘ It’s Coming Home!’ line

[@donn-nd3bs]

Problem was starting kane every game

[@johnsheargold8627]

Why is no one talking about Anthony Gordon giving an honest refreshing interview to the press and doesn't play again after??? Shocking treatment.

[@trevorgiddings3053]

Totally agree with that guy who said we have a lot of young players who are comfortable on the ball, are very familiar with the press and Southgate did get them to sit back. Hopeless.

[@clives344]

Spain won comfortably 2:1 wouldn’t say that.

[@MrMacbridemax]

The caller saying England aren't set up to retain possession is wrong. We have changed from a counter attacking team to a possession based team. I'm not sure how you watch the tournament and conclude that we're still playing on the counter attack. We had most of the ball against almost every team. Spain on the other hand are more counter attacking now, but can keep the ball when they need to. The issue is that our possession is rigid, slow and not incisive.

[@pearcegreatesteverleftback03]

Same old EXCUSES. Never does the truth get told… England players now just aren’t good enough. That’s THE TRUTH

[@benmartin7708]

Never heard such drivel too many players not knowing who to play dear god

[@pablorodriguez5725]

“Let’s throw bukayo saka in there” piss off. Saka was their best attacking player.

[@KeepingWatchUK]

Palmer was.

[@Iamevlhmr]

Hahahahaha ​@@KeepingWatchUK

[@TonyHammer61]

Jarrod Bowen - 19 PL goals and plenty of assists. Gordon and Palmer have been brilliant all season. Yet he would rather play Bellingham/Foden on the left just to keep them happy

[@jimhuf8102]

Lets not forget Southgate said after match 1: we were to intense in the first half. after match 2: we dont have a replacement for Kalvin Philips

[@hamonryechinaski180]

Kane should have been off at half time OR brought on as sub! He didnt look fit and his inability to get in box constantly hamstrung the side. Watkins, Palmer and Gordon should have had far more minutes! Foden after Pep coaching beeds to in a system. He certainly doesn't produce on left. Bellingham alongside Rice was worth trying. Gordon to give balance on left was obvious fix. Bizarre choices by Southgate and too defensive.

[@Prometheus4096]

It is shocking he started with Kane. He took him off at half time the semifinal, so why he is even starting in the final? You need a special reason to do that. And there wasn't. It is nonsensical. If Kane is so good, why sub him? If he is so bad, why start him in the final?

[@jonesyboy69]

Southgate was going to bring on Gallagher and Trippier before the end of 90 minutes, which showed that his intention was to keep it at 1-1. So negative!

[@cha9165]

My goodness nooo way.

[@judedecruz53]

England was missing Cole Palmer in the middle because his a natural playmaker like Mainoo!!! They needed a Paul Scholes kind of player who spots his teammates before making his pinpoint passes!!!!

[@chd1694]

Really thought England had this tournament and gareth’s first euro should have been an England victory.

[@JayThandi]

Southgate has done a lot better than anyone expected, but he’s way of setting up teams and playing style was never going to beat Spain. A better manager could do so much with the squad

[@Leehuss5582]

Durham is 100percent correct...I was watching the game and could not believe the amount of PASS MOVE PASS MOVE Spain were making..Why wasn't Toney put on MUCH earlier Instead he is put on when the games going nowhere..how many times did we see the ball being in our half then straight back to Pickford..its always the same thing no attacking style of football always trying to have possession when we don't have the players to hold it meaning possession lost and a counter attack by opposing team resulting in GOALS..

[@dontbewoke]

Ashton makes a really interesting point about Trent and Palmer being our only 2 incisive passers...

[@user-ky7fe1ce3p]

If Southgate had been rotating the squad before the tournament, he could have played different players in the tournament without backlash from any players. But because he didn’t it then became difficult to drop players because it looks like their being dropped (as he is more a friend than a manager ) but if he rotates a lot, when he drops Kane or foden or Bellingham or saka it’s excepted as rotation to give England the best chance of winning each individual game because each player has different skill sets. So my advice to the future England manager is to Rotate as much as possible so you can develop a squad that don’t experience the feeling of being dropped because its rotation, giving the players less games to play and are less tired in the tournament ! Play the same style of premier league football (as most players play in this league ) but with minor alterations to adjust for the opponents style and personal !

[@ArjunGhag-ix7te]

J.Stelling & S.Jordan & P.Thompson & J.Barnes must call the FA today, Tues, 21/7/24 & get em to offer Klopp the 3 🦁 job to start whenever Gareth vacates it. Klopp will meet Argentina in the World Cup final & Klopp will win the UK Euro26

[@the_re_up]

Honestly i genuinely believe saka could go to war for england, win a golden boot in the same season and still people will say “might aswel drop him” after one bad game lol.

[@MaticulousGamer]

"oh, he had too many choices and didn't know how to manage an extra 3 players"... what is he paid £5million pounds a year for?! what an idiot

[@pearcegreatesteverleftback03]

Trent as a CAM?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewjennings5893]

These are the same people only 24hrs ago saying how great he is. The media are the problem lets all come together and get him out.

[@PabloM-ny1vd]

100% matt

[@cha9165]

I was so annoyed that the media attacked anyone with rational criticism of southgate. We should get behind him etc. When every point was valid.

[@user-oe8rx4qh8v]

@@PabloM-ny1vd Idiots like Durham hype up our players who, for the most part, are bang average. They raise unrealistic expectations then wonder why we lose when we meet a decent team . English players simply not good enough. Add in a pretty clueless coach and what do you expect ? England were very lucky to get to the final and were NEVER going to beat Spain . Same thing happens every two years. Tune in in July 2026 for the next episode.

[@barrymcareavey5913]

Man that says its coming home, rages when it doesn't come home.

[@rigsby1454]

Every caller has to somehow bring Saka into it. Saka and Palmer don't even play the same position