Adrix and Nev, Twincasters | EDH Three Ways [Commander Strategies for Every Player] Strixhaven Ward

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Jake and Joel are Magic

3 жыл бұрын

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Adrix and Nev, Twincasters are a new Simic (Green, Blue) Commander, joining the Magic: the Gathering multiverse, from MTG's newest set, Strixhaven and Commander 2021. In this video of Jake and Joel are Magic, Joel offers 3 different strategies (for every player) for building Adrix and Nev, each doing its best to utilize this new Commander to the best of its abilities! Adrix and Nev have a unique ability: Ward; this new ability counters any spell that targets Adrix and Nev unless the spell's controller pays 2 more. Let's look at the strong, fun and mean ways to build Adrix and Nev: In the strong category, we start things off with tokens, since Adrix and Nev create double the tokens, followed by fun: Planeswalkers that create creature tokens, and finally, the mean way will focus on Instants and Sorceries that create creature tokens. What are the best ways to build Adrix and Nev and get the most out of this new Simic General from Commander 2021? Are Adrix and Nev worth building in EDH and what is the best deck for them? There is a lot to go over! Check out the video and thanks for spending your time with us!
About the Three-Ways Series:
Some people like their chicken wings sweet while others prefer them scorching hot; either way, you are eating chicken. Magic the Gathering is a game with many different rules and building a Commander deck that works takes some time and strategy. Understanding the commander of your deck will help inform a deck-building plan that works for you. In this series, Joel discusses commander strategies for every player. This broad-strokes approach will give you a basic breakdown of the commander and three different ways you can build your deck to work with its abilities, without providing a full deck-tech.
What is Commander:
Commander, officially recognized on June 17, 2011, originated from a format called EDH (Elder Dragon Highlander-- there can only be one). The first time we played EDH was around 2009. It is easily the best way to play Magic: The Gathering. The idea was to have a casual format with 100 cards and only a single copy of any one card, with a General: a singular Legendary Creature card in its own zone that can be cast any time, once you have the mana for it. If your general is removed, it goes up by a casting cost of 2 for each time it is removed. Once WOTC officially recognized the format and printed the first Commander product, your General was instead called your Commander and instead of the format being called EDH, it instead became recognized as Commander. If you ever hear anyone say EDH, they are talking about Commander. Make sure to know the cards that are banned in the format before building your deck (listed below).
Commander Banlist:
magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/gameplay/rules-and-formats/banned-restricted
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@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Adrix and Nev 1. Strong - Spike Tokens a. Avenger of Zendikar b. Rampaging Baloths c. Helm of the Host d. Myr Battlesphere e. Parallel Lives f. Doubling Season g. Mimic Vat h. Idol of Oblivion 2. Fun - Planeswalkers a. Ugin, the Ineffable b. Garruk, Primal Hunter c. Tezzeret, Artifice Master d. Kasmina new e. Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor f. Vivien, Monster's Advocate g. Ever-Watching Threshold h. The Chain Veil 3. Mean - Instants and Sorceries a. Murmuring Mystic b. Talrand, Sky Summoner c. Docent of Perfection d. Metallurgic Summonings e. Shark Typhoon f. Skywise Teachings g. Fable of Wolf and Owl h. Arasta of the Endless Web
@94ncd
@94ncd 2 жыл бұрын
Fable of the wolf and owl, works for all three, Just saying it can be played in the fun decks, mean, and well the powerfull it can get out of hand I'd you have any token doubler, or cast multiple spells... there is also second harvest for a finisher/ baiting out the board wipes.
@flbthptheintroverted5913
@flbthptheintroverted5913 3 жыл бұрын
Once again simic is probably going to be the strongest precon.
@Wakrar
@Wakrar 3 жыл бұрын
Probably yes, but I think the Boros one got the most potential, competitively wise
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Potentially. Boros one seems strong
@Wakrar
@Wakrar 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic a lot! The way I see it going is by abusing it's effects with mana rocks and cards like Lotus Petal earlier and then move towards extracting value from larger artifacts, like Panharmonicon.
@claygillman9351
@claygillman9351 2 жыл бұрын
Came back and watched this again. Finally playing Adrix and Nev in the Jake and Joel are Magic commander league. Definitely a fun deck. I went the Strong route though. :-)
@DylanCEdh
@DylanCEdh 3 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh! Just hearing the text I can see the price of doubling season and vorinclex spiking!
@luketargett2233
@luketargett2233 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude
@PawzBrownMTG
@PawzBrownMTG 3 жыл бұрын
That'll be a great set of decks keep them coming
@crossr1984
@crossr1984 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the superfriends build. I might try that. Freyalise will make 2 Llanowars! It could be really silly.
@stephanmathys62
@stephanmathys62 2 жыл бұрын
So, I just did my first pre-con upgrade over the past few weeks and this was the one I chose. Wanted to keep it under $100 total, so instead of going all in on things like Parallel Lives and Doubling Season for creature tokens I went with "what various kinds of tokens can we make?" I've got cards that make lots of Food, Clue, and Treasure tokens. Tireless Provisioner, Tamiyo's Journal, Academy Manufactor, Tempting Contract, Spell Swindle, Wolf's Quarry, Progenitor Mimic, and Skyclave Relic are all cards that don't just make small creature tokens, they do something different that Adrix and Nev will see and double. Hopefully this deck will be fun to play with.
@poofypeanut0221
@poofypeanut0221 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet video as always Joel! I do kinda wish that the 3 ways build would.come out after we.get the full set to talk about the other new cards.for.the 99 but I know.you've gotta.get some content out there on the meantime. Still love the vids! I'm excited about Adrix and Nev but mostly for the 99. I've got probably ten decks this wants to slot right into. I'm stoked.for.Strixhaven!
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good note poofy, I'll maybe do an update video?
@poofypeanut0221
@poofypeanut0221 3 жыл бұрын
I like that idea since there's bound to be great cards for this archetype in the set proper!
@Badassest
@Badassest 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah- all these ways are awesome for this commander! This is going to be a really crazy creature to see on the battlefield, i would add some food synergies and giant opportunity to get 7/7 giant tokens and thassa bests the sea god to get multiple 8/8 krakens. Pure Token Jank😊 Esika's chariot will undoubtedly be a good add and orvar as well. I think this will be a hugely fun commander and will build it. I really like your planeswalker theme version- that is epic! I didnt even think of avenger of zendikar, rampaging baloths or vivien- er my gherd! Expect this card to hold some value. Oh- did i mention esior and anara will be awesome in this build too?🤣
@tarzanbigcity
@tarzanbigcity 3 жыл бұрын
It would be even more powerful in a Riku of Two Reflections deck. Add red for more schenigans.
@patricklaflin528
@patricklaflin528 3 жыл бұрын
Radix and Venn might be my favorite Strixhaven commander so far.
@altmtg4722
@altmtg4722 3 жыл бұрын
Really good list
@discordmarauder
@discordmarauder 2 жыл бұрын
Esix, fractal bloom and twin casters are great cause of cards like avenger of zendikar. With esix, the tokens you made from avenger can be turned into more avengers if it is the first time you would make tokens that turn. Twincasters then double the resulting number of avengers and the plants they produce. If you only had 7 lands, you’d make 14 0/1s that can be turned into 28 avengers, making an ungodly 392 0/1 plant tokens.
@ethanwiggen3567
@ethanwiggen3567 3 жыл бұрын
Was the fun bit in the beginning a reference to 'the magicians '?.also I really like the mean build,spell slinger tokens is not something I would have thought about for this commander,nice work.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Naruto or Dr Strange reference, but Magicians works too! 🤣
@krgood9008
@krgood9008 2 жыл бұрын
Chatterfang would work well here too. Doubling everything again with Squirrel tokens.
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking Spell Swindle is pretty nice, budget Mana Drain? A few others that come to mind: Lazotep Plating, Spark Double, Bow of Nylea + Garruk's Uprising, Champion of Lambholt, Biomass Mutation, End-Raze Forerunners Murkfield Liege could work nicely with creatures that tap to generate tokens, Wilderness Reclamation can work with land Aura enchantments that tap for creatures too (Seedborn Muse works for both)
@masterspitz5346
@masterspitz5346 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you know how much i like simic. You guys are entertaining. Keep up the good work. Love intro.
@ajanigoldmane574
@ajanigoldmane574 2 жыл бұрын
Helm of the host: Tokens / Number of Adrixes First token: 3 Second token: 11 Third: 2059 Fourth: 2^2059+2059. This is more than a googol. This number can also eaily be reached by mutating on top of Adrix and Nev, then using copy token spells. Overrides legendary rule.
@deadNdivine12
@deadNdivine12 3 жыл бұрын
Don't see skywise teaching's a lot haha surprised to see that here.
@tidus001
@tidus001 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely putting coma in the 99, also going to see if ashnod’s/phyrexian alter might have some use extending a play with all the tokens we’ll be making.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it definitely will be great in this deck, are you playing any infinite combos?
@tidus001
@tidus001 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic kinda burnt out on combos after my korvold deck 🥲, thinking about taking some blink strategies from my gyruda deck and abusing that token theme with everyone’s favorite deadeye navigator and thassa. Curious to see if we get some new combos with their ability and any new cards that will drop.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
@@tidus001 blink will get it done
@bloodbathnbeyond
@bloodbathnbeyond 3 жыл бұрын
I like the mean way
@johncreekpaum4998
@johncreekpaum4998 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna have to build Adrix and Nev Token makers and Copy effects. You know what's better than Avenger of Zendikar with Adrix and Nev out? Casting Quasiduplicate targeting your Avenger of Zendikar with Adrix and Nev out. You know what's just massive spiraling value with Adrix and Nev in play? Progenitor Mimic. Rite of Replication becomes even more crazy. Cackling Counterpart gives me two of the best creature in play. Imagine having Adrix and Nev in play, then playing Clone Legion.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I almost made copies one of the strategies... you're spot on with this
@IvanMTG1
@IvanMTG1 3 жыл бұрын
I want a foil of this!!!
@Quizzter
@Quizzter 3 жыл бұрын
Do anyone think that combining the token and planeswalker decks would be good?
@kylesavage4525
@kylesavage4525 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised u didn't mention any clue and/or treasure shenanigans. I think this would be a bit more unique strategy than the typical creature token strategy. I don't know however how many strong cards that make this kind o tokens there are since u don't want to play weak cards just cause they make clues/treasures. And yes i know this is a Simic deck so no need to try to ramp & draw like that but i think it would be nonetheless an interesting way to build the deck.
@colinh5299
@colinh5299 3 жыл бұрын
Woah. Full Art version of the card? I assume that the FA will be from Collector Boxes?
@EPICLYFATALERROR
@EPICLYFATALERROR 3 жыл бұрын
Correct
@johnlemus7921
@johnlemus7921 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually taking out all of the token generators that came in the deck and replacing them with wizard and merfolk token generator, just to keep it on theme. I will how ever leave in the Fractal generator, but I feel that is kind of on theme.
@IvanMTG1
@IvanMTG1 3 жыл бұрын
Dat patron list getting loooonnngggg oooooo-weeeeeee
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@kazer4040
@kazer4040 3 жыл бұрын
Look up lullmage mentor... imagine avenger of zendikar, mystic reflection the plant tokens to be lullmage mentors... instant infinite counter spells pretty much
@thenewlollipopjam8248
@thenewlollipopjam8248 3 жыл бұрын
Joel: *lists the mean list* Me: "Oh yeah that's pretty mean.* Also me: *intending to building Eldrazi tribal, making and doubling scions to ramp into annihilator Eldrazi that I can make tokens with via Cackling Counterpart-esque cards*
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I like the Scions idea!💡
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting to see your take on Breena, I long to see what her decklist looks like, group slug or group hug?
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Breena coming up this week
@danielsullivan3640
@danielsullivan3640 3 жыл бұрын
Was kinda bored by this creatures design at first but you just showed me some spicy stuff
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Thanks for saying that, that's a goal for me with these vids!
@danielsullivan3640
@danielsullivan3640 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeandJoelareMagic please do osgir soon !
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielsullivan3640 probably this week, look out for it
@CozmicG
@CozmicG 3 жыл бұрын
regarding playing 2 Kasminas.... I thought you can only play one planeswalker of the same name?
@fluffylegend294
@fluffylegend294 3 жыл бұрын
Emrakul’s Evangel...Tap and sacrifice him, along with, say, 0/1 plants, 1/1 Saps, or what have you, and make twice that many 3/2 Eldrazi 🤷🏻‍♂️
@IvanMTG1
@IvanMTG1 3 жыл бұрын
Here!
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@yonahgreene
@yonahgreene 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go! Joel's finally doing the cringy intro's lol
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Hey wait a second
@KeiruKeiru
@KeiruKeiru 3 жыл бұрын
Strong spike tokens --> Mystic reflection has entered the chat.
@bigchungus2536
@bigchungus2536 3 жыл бұрын
For real. That card will win games so easy when paired with the right creatures. Besides Avenger I like hornet queen and terrastodon with it. Target your own stuff with terrastodon and get 6 more terrastodons then have fun. The backlash could be bad but worth it.
@KeiruKeiru
@KeiruKeiru 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigchungus2536 Mystic reflection targeting the elephant in the room 😂
@christiankartelo2182
@christiankartelo2182 3 жыл бұрын
I was just about to build a Riku deck. Is this or Riku stronger??
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Depends on what you wanna do! I love Riku
@brandonwhite6693
@brandonwhite6693 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't orvar make tokens?
@sageofrealities6478
@sageofrealities6478 2 жыл бұрын
Mean build deck list?
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 3 жыл бұрын
“Wotc not making a stupidly strong simic card” challenge
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Unlikely they ever win that
@kevinf9913
@kevinf9913 3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised you did not talk about this commander with cloning effects such as sakashima etc. Clones are also considered creature tokens so they will be doubled. That is why I chose to go.
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, clones seem like they would benefit greatly.
@heathwannemacher4185
@heathwannemacher4185 2 жыл бұрын
This is not accurate. 706.1.: Some objects become or turn another object into a “copy” of a spell, permanent, or card. Some effects create a token that’s a copy of another object. Clones are not tokens, they are cards unless the clone effect specifically states it is or creates a token. See Cackling Counterpart as an example.
@Dustinisnotavailable
@Dustinisnotavailable 3 жыл бұрын
What is "cmc"? All I know is MANA VALUE!!!
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an old man, the ways are set
@papobufalo
@papobufalo 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me as if they create cards for their own personal decks haha (designers)
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
I probably would XD
@nightrider3982
@nightrider3982 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t helm of the host just create an infinite stack that can’t end on the second turn it’s been equiped?
@MrNbkelly
@MrNbkelly 3 жыл бұрын
nope, just straight multiplication really (from reddit) "If you attach the helm during Main 1 on turn N, you'll have 1+(2^1)=3 during combat on turn N, 3+(2^3)=11 on turn N+1, and 11+(2^11)=2059 on turn N+2. After that it's essentially infinite."
@nightrider3982
@nightrider3982 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrNbkelly but if there’s three triggers on the stack, the first resolves creating a new token, then the second resolved creating a new token which would trigger the token that was just created right?
@Zumteifl
@Zumteifl Жыл бұрын
@@nightrider3982 they enter at the same time, so they don't see each other beeing created. So no doubling there.
@c.r.bledsoe9322
@c.r.bledsoe9322 3 жыл бұрын
Do breena next, I feel like the kind of group politics strategy that she brings is getting overlooked
@JakeandJoelareMagic
@JakeandJoelareMagic 3 жыл бұрын
Breena is gonna be this week
@freedomforall1712
@freedomforall1712 3 жыл бұрын
If they made this commander white it would have been a step in the right direction.
@SupaFragolata
@SupaFragolata 3 жыл бұрын
Adrix and Nev is so obviously broken, it's not even funny. Wizards is afraid that people will lose interest if they aren't handed a broken combo on a platter.
@returnoftheduelist9790
@returnoftheduelist9790 3 жыл бұрын
F Simic and F wotc for pumping green way too much and the blue green commanders way too much, to a point where half the ppl you play edh with have aesi decks. Its stupid to make commander cookie cutter and its dumb when everyone is running simic decks and barely any other color combinations. I refuse to run green and refuse to run simic; its a cop out and is too easy to abuse and net deck.