ADVANCE Your Press: Strict Press to Olympic Press (FAIL!)

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Barbell Logic

Barbell Logic

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@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 5 жыл бұрын
Well... Alexis tried! Watch til the end for examples of Olympic presses from BLOC Coaches, Cody Annino and Brooke Haubenstricker.
@JJbike
@JJbike 4 жыл бұрын
I competed in OLY lifting back in the 60s. We would really lean back and then throw that weight up and duck back down. It was a technique lift like the snatch. Some lifters press and C&J were about the same. Lots of competitive lifters were done when the rule change happened.
@callingvaibhav
@callingvaibhav 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video. Thank you so much for explaining the difference between all the Presses. It makes much more sense now. Thank you so much. Your videos are making a difference, please keep them coming.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! Good luck with your training.
@MeinNameistCarlos
@MeinNameistCarlos 5 жыл бұрын
Best method to learn the „lay back lock out“ is to narrow your grip even more. Still keeping the elbows vertical front view, but more tucked in when shown from above. In my experience you will automatically throw the bar more in front so that you are forced to miss the rep or lock it out through lay back. Maybe it‘s not optimal, but this was the problem I had with the press in the beginning. A problem there can be a solution somewhere else.
@thebarbelllifestyle1478
@thebarbelllifestyle1478 6 ай бұрын
I know this is a four year old comment, but this is a similar way of thinking that some of the old school lifters had. Some would prefer to let the bar rest a little lower on the chest to facilitate a better drive from the initial layback. I can imagine that this would also force you to either miss or get the right layback and lockout as you mentioned.
@Matt-yi3kn
@Matt-yi3kn 2 жыл бұрын
Is it elbow flare at 2:49? I learn it from your pre video "Overhead Press Common Mistakes - Elbow Flare, Grip Width"
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx 3 ай бұрын
I think she did very well in the Olympic press, I am not sure I can do that, 50kg on the bar, quite impressive.!!!
@djsnit
@djsnit 4 жыл бұрын
I love 1.5!
@kavishgour3267
@kavishgour3267 3 жыл бұрын
It's safer for your shoulders too
@flipmanonline
@flipmanonline 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Did not know I did the 1.5 the whole time, and the 2.0 when I was getting tired. Oh and Alexis looks beautiful! Have a great day guys!
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching & commenting.
@thefox1703
@thefox1703 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this outstanding video!
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU
@axilleaskazuya5370
@axilleaskazuya5370 3 жыл бұрын
I like the 1.5 using the stretch reflex at the bottom bit im lowering the bar to the clavical, i also like to raise the chin a little bit so the bar goes straighter and less around the chin
@AbuMaxime
@AbuMaxime 5 жыл бұрын
👍. Some videos on the push press and the jerk would be helpful as well!
@900198619
@900198619 2 жыл бұрын
My only complaint is the view should be front and from the side. That way we get a better idea of how this should look.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@900198619
@900198619 2 жыл бұрын
@@BarbellLogic great video though!! Great progression
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 2 жыл бұрын
@@900198619 Thanks.
@jgbecker24
@jgbecker24 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I get that a person is probably an advanced lifter by the time they start to oly press, but it just seems to me like there's SO much potential for a back injury because of one bad rep with that secondary lay-back (something I would inevitably do).Thanks again for the free, quality content BLOC!
@baleyparker1979
@baleyparker1979 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the barbell curl!!!!
@starpooper1681
@starpooper1681 5 жыл бұрын
So, it's a more hips - triceps movement, without much shoulder flexion? Or am I wrong? :)
@matthew9257
@matthew9257 5 жыл бұрын
The hips *assist* breaking the bar off the shoulders, but you still need strong shoulders to get the bar moving.
@darkknight-bv4vv
@darkknight-bv4vv 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear video.. Thank you
@ramensun9748
@ramensun9748 5 жыл бұрын
good study
@RobPaschal
@RobPaschal 5 жыл бұрын
This video helped me this morning. I was on set 2 of 5 of OHP and failed on rep 2 of 3. Super disappointed. So, I thought about the hip movement from this video in the 2.0 version. And, more importantly, I thought about how my grip should closer than I think it should. I brought my grip in about two finger widths and tried a set. Wow. I nailed the rest of my sets. Holy cow what a difference. I always thought with my long arms and broad shoulders I needed a wider grip. Nope. My index finger was just on the edge of the knurl. My forearms were vertical. And I gained an absolute ton of power. Thank you!
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, grip width is really important! Glad that small adjustment made such a big difference!
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 5 жыл бұрын
Rob Paschal Do not copy that shit. The Olympic press was the strict press! Judges did not enforce the rules anymore. Drop the weight and press correctly.
@skullkid112
@skullkid112 5 жыл бұрын
I started naturally Olympic pressing lately when the weight got heavy. Although I have seen rips video on it, I never planned to implement it, it just sorta happened.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, we explain that in this video where we show examples of our other coaches Olympic pressing.
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 5 жыл бұрын
Zelda Lad lol you are cheating yourself... Lower the weight and keep pressing strictly. ( the press was a slow lift not a quick lift)
@sachinhj9910
@sachinhj9910 3 жыл бұрын
He top is black, pants are blue. Her hair is blue (dyed) and black . And she's fair. Minimalistic and graceful ❤️❤️❤️
@robertrivera4701
@robertrivera4701 5 жыл бұрын
I do my presses strict, with a pause at the bottom of every rep. Are there any benefits to touch-and-go reps on the press? Or are the differences between pausing and touch-and-go negligible?
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 5 жыл бұрын
When you say "touch and go," do you mean like how we demonstrated the "Press 1.5" here?
@robertrivera4701
@robertrivera4701 5 жыл бұрын
@@BarbellLogic exactly like the 1 5. No pause on the clavicle, just pushing the weight overhead as soon as it touches.
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx 3 ай бұрын
Alexis is being worked very hard, is she ready for this?, it is easy to cause injury to some one inexperienced.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 3 ай бұрын
She is an experienced lifter, just not experienced with this specific variant.
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx
@Timothyshannon-fz4jx 3 ай бұрын
@@BarbellLogic No criticism intended, these things are difficult to do correctly and if they were easy we would all be doing it, the mental side of it is just as important as the physical, and people who excel at any sport tend to be above average in intellect, abilities and intelligence, no coincidence in that, as a driving instructor I found that those who were seriously engaged in a sport by and large were the better pupils, they had better spatial awareness, took things in better, and had better concentration, it was as much an education for me as for them, in teaching we learn.
@alexandercarvajal4219
@alexandercarvajal4219 4 жыл бұрын
Is this the same as the press double layback on starting strength channel?
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Good question! With the olympic press as demonstrated by Alexis, there should be no space between the barbell and the shoulders; the bar will be in contact with the shoulders at the start of each rep, which means the grip will very likely be wider depending on the individual. The timing is a bit different than the press 2.0 as well, given that the bounce of the hips forward as shown here is going to be much slower than other styles of pressing.
@alexandercarvajal4219
@alexandercarvajal4219 4 жыл бұрын
@@BarbellLogic About a month ago I was testing my overhead press with singles and I felt my back be forced back after my hip bounce to generate more force. I felt my lats getting involved and don't know if that's good or not.
@rg3412
@rg3412 5 жыл бұрын
Camera angle hides the hip thrusting
@Matthew-pf9mj
@Matthew-pf9mj Жыл бұрын
8:41
@Dzinbhudist
@Dzinbhudist 5 жыл бұрын
Standing bench press :D
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 5 жыл бұрын
Martynas Šliažas yup and people think that the Olympic press is some kind of press... The strict press was the Olympic Press! Judges were not enforcing rules anymore.
@mattkonny9735
@mattkonny9735 5 жыл бұрын
It really isn’t. I don’t think you can compare the two. It’s not even that close to an incline.
@johnharbour4936
@johnharbour4936 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the Olympic press put a ridiculous amount of pressure on the posterior aspect of your spine?
@Uolverino7036
@Uolverino7036 4 жыл бұрын
I think it does only if your core is not strong enough. It is not an exercise for a beginner for shure
@johnharbour4936
@johnharbour4936 4 жыл бұрын
@@Uolverino7036 do you think the benefits are worth the risk even for an intermediate lifter? To me it seems incredibly unnatural. Why not graduate to the split jerk maybe? That seems like a more natural position.
@denvergriffin5555
@denvergriffin5555 4 жыл бұрын
If someone insists on "pressing" loads that they cannot actually press, might as well do the push press. There is nothing wrong with the basic press. This "innovation" is analogous to bouncing benches off the ribcage and sternum.
@lorenzop.8249
@lorenzop.8249 Жыл бұрын
Advice for some.. DO NOT shrug at the top, fucked up my ribs for some reason
@Francesco-cj3oi
@Francesco-cj3oi 5 жыл бұрын
This looks like a Really advanced movement, but also looks dangerous for your back if you are not careful, It seems like you could break in half lol
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 5 жыл бұрын
Francesco De Caro lol it’s not advanced, it is called cheating ...
@jerrynash8920
@jerrynash8920 Жыл бұрын
I have always used high bar squats. Numerous Olympic weight lifters use the high bar as well. And can lift more than some powerlifters.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic Жыл бұрын
cool
@jeffreybabino8161
@jeffreybabino8161 3 жыл бұрын
Is she a Coach
@jeffreybabino8161
@jeffreybabino8161 3 жыл бұрын
Any way she did good
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The Olympic press is a hard lift--and most people don't need to use it. It's useful if you're looking to compete in Strengthlifting--or some other situation where you're really pushing your 1RM press.
@adamschenck1652
@adamschenck1652 5 жыл бұрын
Matt and Brooke--DON'T READ THE COMMENTS!
@Eradicator7
@Eradicator7 5 жыл бұрын
The lift we didn't need to know.
@BarbellLogic
@BarbellLogic 5 жыл бұрын
We explain in the video that the Olympic press is for advanced lifters who naturally develop the layback over time. Hope you found the beginning useful, where we walked through 3 other types of presses!
@klalakomacoi
@klalakomacoi 5 жыл бұрын
The comment that we didn't need to read.
@freddmi5212
@freddmi5212 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the classical press is as much a major lift as the bench press is. A very technical movement thought. Actually, I don't really see the point in practicing the olympic press the way it was performed in the late 60's, early 70's with this huge lay back. This is the reason, among political concerns, why this lift has been supressed from the Olympics. A stricter version is in my opinion much safer and still a beautiful movement.
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 5 жыл бұрын
klalakomacoi Indeed. The strict press was the Olympic press! To press heavier weights , lifters started to cheat by using this awful technique and judges were not enforcing the rules! I mean, by textbook, the press was a slow lift not a quick lift like the snatch and the clean & jerk. It was a good thing to drop this travesty of pressing from Oly competition.
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