Advanced 3D Light Rays in After Effects!

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10 жыл бұрын

Create volumetric 3D Light Rays in After Effects with built-in plug-ins.
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@ArchTeryx00
@ArchTeryx00 Жыл бұрын
A message from the future (2022): This actually got a lot easier witht he introduction of CC Light Rays to the effects panel. Much of the creation of the volumetric light can now be done in a single step, by applying the CC Light Rays effect to the ellipse shape. That being said, the rest of the video still applies, and if you want to create the light using this technique, it still works in After Effects 2022. (Yoiu can also extrude and bevel text with single-step effects as well in 2022).
@XMNF
@XMNF Жыл бұрын
You can also make it super easy in the Nebula plugin :)
@tgs1766
@tgs1766 7 ай бұрын
A message from 2023. CC Light Rays will definitely not give you the same effect that you see done throughout this video.
@coreygun
@coreygun 5 ай бұрын
A message from 2026: I can't find this video anymore, maybe it's been deleted, so please don't remove it in order for this message to actually exist. Thanks.
@nottdiego_
@nottdiego_ 2 ай бұрын
@@coreygun no way
@galefraney
@galefraney 5 жыл бұрын
Your tutorials are so fantastic on every level, excellent information, creativity, quality. What sets you apart from other KZbin tutorials is that you explain all aspects (what, where, why, when, how) ... and you offer several creative examples. Most other KZbin tutorials merely explain “how” like rote recipe steps, without explaining why, when, etc. I see that you haven’t posted tutorials for quite some time. I know you are now so much in demand and working on numerous projects. But what made you so well loved within the video and design community is that you took time to give back to the community with your amazing tutorials and you also so generously offered some free plugins for people on low budgets (like myself). As you rise to higher and higher career spheres, please do not forget us regular folk ... please continue posting tutorials and occasionally throw us poor folk some much appreciated crumbs. Thanks !!!
@1mikebowman
@1mikebowman 9 жыл бұрын
I made this following your exact instructions on here and let me say....this is really cool! My first AE project....although not my own I really learned a ton. Thanks!!! Zero issue!!!!
@Dracogame
@Dracogame 10 жыл бұрын
Really... Thank you. I can't remember when I stopped to follow your tutorials step to step and just started to create something on my own. And after all, I still discover a lot of thing every time I see your videos. It's just amazing.
@jaystern2130
@jaystern2130 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this awesome tutorial. I have a scene where the actor was "saved", and I needed some angelic lights glowing behind him. This is perfect! Glad most of the mask rotoscoping is done :)
@alexilaiho1st
@alexilaiho1st 10 жыл бұрын
...what would the world become without you, Andrew?
@kevincomerford2242
@kevincomerford2242 10 жыл бұрын
Oh, the tocomp expression had helped me out so much when comping 3d elements. Nice job Andrew for pointing this out for people!
@markgeater5288
@markgeater5288 10 жыл бұрын
So good. I'm new to After Effects, it's great to see someone who knows what they're doing use it so efficiently.
@mackiebuena
@mackiebuena 10 жыл бұрын
You're an AE Guru with a an excellent sense of humor! :)) Thanks a lot for teaching us AE!
@ScyrousFX
@ScyrousFX 10 жыл бұрын
You're alive! :D
@moorta82
@moorta82 10 жыл бұрын
1 of best tutorials I have ever seen (including all other softwares tutorials, free and expensive tutorials, quick and long tutorials)
@gffgvdsfsfdsf
@gffgvdsfsfdsf 10 жыл бұрын
New in the design world. Your videos are not confusing and straight forward. You also crack me up keep up the good work man.
@MrBogser
@MrBogser 10 жыл бұрын
Как всегда - На ВЫСОТЕ ! Кашу из топора может сварить!!! Респект !
@ThreesixnineGF
@ThreesixnineGF 8 жыл бұрын
You are honest... and for a youtuber, this is amazing!
@user-go3eg2nb4j
@user-go3eg2nb4j 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from a Russian viewer in 2020. Watching this video when I first work at AAE and place a large order at the director's request. Using your video, I created a cool background for the site from hexagons, behind which light moves and draws their outlines. I spent about 5 hours (the first work in my entire life in this program), but the result is beyond words. Thank you so much for your guide. I subscribed and liked it right away :)
@vengeancia5243
@vengeancia5243 7 жыл бұрын
wow....he's sooo smart and good looking. thanks for the video!
@lithz602
@lithz602 7 жыл бұрын
Lol. But what does ".toComp([0,0,0])"mean??
@gurpritamkauraneja8953
@gurpritamkauraneja8953 7 жыл бұрын
its basically means that, the particular expression is for all the 3 axis I suppose...
@attizzoso
@attizzoso 10 жыл бұрын
The good ol' Kramer is back!!!
@patrickmcevoy1776
@patrickmcevoy1776 7 жыл бұрын
Just when I think it's done you keep tweaking it to look that much better... thank you so much for these videos. They almost make me want to give up and say "**** it" but it's also motivating at the same time. Keep up the good work.
@carlregencia6407
@carlregencia6407 10 жыл бұрын
This is by far the best after effects tutorial I've watched.
@mrgeorge88
@mrgeorge88 4 жыл бұрын
SOLUTION To everyone getting errors from the expression: There's a bug in some versions of AE that adds a space or line in the name of a layer in front of the text when you name it, so when renaming the null make sure to backspace before typing in "Point". Then go through the process of the pickwhip and adding the toComp expression. No more errors. Here's the final full expression- thisComp.layer("Point").toComp([0,0,0])
@Artat4k
@Artat4k 4 жыл бұрын
You are the Man!
@Rmcthree
@Rmcthree 4 жыл бұрын
thank you soooo much....I was banging my head against the monitor and was startin' to see double!
@mistaje
@mistaje 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@yoeandcamp
@yoeandcamp 4 жыл бұрын
thanks alot man, you're right
@raowl8761
@raowl8761 3 жыл бұрын
bruh i didnt understand can u plz tell in easy way ?
@nohanjohn
@nohanjohn 8 жыл бұрын
the Master of AE!
8 жыл бұрын
Holy sh*t, you still got it. I´ve been following your tutorials for many years and they´re always amazing. Great work.
@nwskis
@nwskis 10 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing tutorial, really helped me to get to know different tools etc. Thank you for making this!
@MichaelChin1994
@MichaelChin1994 8 жыл бұрын
Wow...He's so smart! And good looking!
@HarryMcKenzieTV
@HarryMcKenzieTV 7 жыл бұрын
i didn't see his looks though in this video xd
@Medienmechaniker
@Medienmechaniker 7 жыл бұрын
6:30
@johngordon5495
@johngordon5495 4 жыл бұрын
r u gay? not that theres anything wrong with taht
@AudaciousBunny
@AudaciousBunny 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, none of you understand the joke. Andrew said that halfway through the video. He's just quoting him as a joke.
@user-nr5xp6yd8z
@user-nr5xp6yd8z 3 жыл бұрын
​@@johngordon5495 i bet u must be like 11 years old
@HAKIMARTS
@HAKIMARTS 10 жыл бұрын
THE BEST AFTER EFFECT TUTORIALIST I SWEAR
@AlSamsungGalaxy96
@AlSamsungGalaxy96 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you)))
@MrFOuadsb
@MrFOuadsb 10 жыл бұрын
i agree with you to i love this guy
@HAKIMARTS
@HAKIMARTS 10 жыл бұрын
saha wlid bladi 123 viva l'algerie
@MrFOuadsb
@MrFOuadsb 10 жыл бұрын
HAKIM ARTS hhhhhh :) oui viva bladi
@GeekZS
@GeekZS 10 жыл бұрын
el jazayriin fi koli makan !!!! hhhh
@-webster3120
@-webster3120 2 жыл бұрын
It took me quite a while to iron out all the wrinkles but I’ve finally finished. Thank you for posting this and serious congrats on landing the credits job for Star Trek!
@ChristheFuzzy
@ChristheFuzzy 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome tutorial! Learned lots more besides the volumetrics just by watching the rest. Thanks so much!
@Andysfishing
@Andysfishing 9 жыл бұрын
I really like how you explain the finer points. Do you have this in Motion5 at all. I understand the theory is the same, but I'm a real newbie. I'm looking at making a nice intro for my fishing channel.
@the_slurp_kinghansen5936
@the_slurp_kinghansen5936 3 жыл бұрын
hello you got good channle!
@SpiritmanProductions
@SpiritmanProductions 10 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. ;)
@Optimus97
@Optimus97 8 жыл бұрын
I never had expression problems with this effect, and I love this very much.
@retrofraction
@retrofraction 10 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the tutorial, I really enjoyed that credits scene cause in 3D it looked ridiculously good!
@jacobtung8236
@jacobtung8236 10 жыл бұрын
It's fine if you go fast, I've got a pause button.
@adarkerlight
@adarkerlight 8 жыл бұрын
I watch these videos and feel all amped up and then I switch to AE and end up staring at an empty screen. I'm hopeless.
@YahuudGaming
@YahuudGaming 8 жыл бұрын
+adarkerlight same problem... LOL
@BliitzPint
@BliitzPint 8 жыл бұрын
+adarkerlight haha, so same here :)
@beybladeog
@beybladeog 8 жыл бұрын
+adarkerlight JUST DO IT.... lol
@jesseb.2128
@jesseb.2128 7 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one.
@ak7586
@ak7586 6 жыл бұрын
I have an issue following the cursor, let alone come up with anything meaningful.
@HaLsPlayground
@HaLsPlayground 9 жыл бұрын
Again Great Vid! I love how you always lead your vids into another practical application, really helps the creative juices flow!
@NightDocs
@NightDocs 4 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for this amazing tutorial. I just used it to create the ending shot on the trailer for my channel and it really added a professional feel! You're the best! I wish I had more than one "like" to give :)
@NoahShreve
@NoahShreve 10 жыл бұрын
Weddings, nuclear explosions. You know, same thing.
@GechHong
@GechHong 5 жыл бұрын
hashaaaaaa
@ZeaxileVisuals
@ZeaxileVisuals 5 жыл бұрын
Noah Shreve 😂
@adam-ub5fe
@adam-ub5fe 5 жыл бұрын
Nuclear explosions, weddings. Fantastic
@AlSamsungGalaxy96
@AlSamsungGalaxy96 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool tutorial! Greeting from Russia. Так держать!
@ORR1S
@ORR1S 3 жыл бұрын
I love your humor. Competent and humble! Keep 'em comin'
@ps2u
@ps2u 10 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your tutorials they are always fun and very informative, can't wait to try this out some time!
@meJevin
@meJevin 10 жыл бұрын
Как всегда шикардос
@magaz
@magaz 8 жыл бұрын
This is great... I'm having issues at 10:00 with the fractal noise part... the second I turn it to a 3D object I lose the ability to change the blending modes... Can not work out why...
@petesmith7110
@petesmith7110 7 жыл бұрын
Also having this issue
@petesmith7110
@petesmith7110 7 жыл бұрын
Just resolved the issue, change from Ray-Traced 3d to Classic 3d
@AngelPerez-ds2lw
@AngelPerez-ds2lw 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial. Totally helped me out. Even as a newbie I was able to complete it from start to finish and I am using this for my game title.
@StanRain
@StanRain 8 жыл бұрын
For the record, this is the best "crappiest" video I've seen in along time. Thanks for the tutorials!
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 8 жыл бұрын
Man, another fake vid to get my click! This vid is just genius. These are like watching a movie. I just enjoy watching how you get from nothing to awesome in 15 minutes.
@gilldetalhamentos
@gilldetalhamentos 2 жыл бұрын
In 20: 41. In the motion 15 second is a iternit.
@Nat0ri0us
@Nat0ri0us 9 жыл бұрын
Took almost 2 hours to try and do this in after effects by watching tutorial. I'm quite an ameture with after effects but I hope to be this good someday
@BuilderBLU
@BuilderBLU 8 жыл бұрын
soundspeed757 Yea Andrew krammer has actually done special effects for huge titles like Startreck Into Darkness.
@Nat0ri0us
@Nat0ri0us 8 жыл бұрын
BLU Builders League Unlimited that's pretty neat. It would be pretty cool to actually talk to him some time.
@BuilderBLU
@BuilderBLU 8 жыл бұрын
Yea that would be amazing, I'm sure that half and hour with him would be as good as a month of tutorials
@Nat0ri0us
@Nat0ri0us 8 жыл бұрын
probably so
@LaneCarter
@LaneCarter 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I actually need to do this effect for a short film I've been working on and I was wondering how to do it. This is awesome! Light rays are the new lens flares.
@NoahFilmsProductions
@NoahFilmsProductions 10 жыл бұрын
The coolest thing video copilot has done to date! Thanks Andrew!!!
@chilleffect
@chilleffect 7 жыл бұрын
It's like an even cooler Bob Ross.
@GhostsGraphics
@GhostsGraphics 10 жыл бұрын
Wow if thats the iphone prototype i cant wait to see the android that they ripped it off from :p Thanks for the tutorial andrew!
@topgallery4560
@topgallery4560 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic tutorial and excellent presentation, just what I was looking for. THANK YOU
@mokaffyeee
@mokaffyeee 10 жыл бұрын
its so beautiful man ,don't stop your tutorials
@Muzly
@Muzly 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever I convert a layer into a 3D layer, I no longer get the options to set it to Screen mode. I have to change it back to a 2D layer, set it to Screen mode then change it back to a 3D layer. The only problem is that it isn't working the way it does on your composition. Is there a reason for this?
@ahmadmoussaoui4513
@ahmadmoussaoui4513 7 жыл бұрын
Same problem here
@Muzly
@Muzly 7 жыл бұрын
Ahmad Moussaoui I figured it out. Change the 3D mode to classic 3D. You can't change blend mode with ray traced.
@FearTheHippo
@FearTheHippo 6 жыл бұрын
There is a button on the bottom of the timeline that looks like a circle and square intersected, click it to expand the Transfer Control pane.
@abdulla1780
@abdulla1780 6 жыл бұрын
same
@Mr_Bloodjack
@Mr_Bloodjack 10 жыл бұрын
And this is how some third party plugin sellers lost huge amont of cash! XD
@syafiqsy9195
@syafiqsy9195 5 жыл бұрын
You are the best performance in the world. You recognised each other and you recognised sayfiq shahzurabane
@indiemike-ish
@indiemike-ish 10 жыл бұрын
I always learn something from your tutorials. Even from very simple effects. Thanks!
@LJAdventures
@LJAdventures 6 жыл бұрын
Gave it a thumbs up just because you had me cracking up at 16:55. There were great entertaining remarks all throughout the video and love the knowledge. Its a bit beyond my current skill set, but if I practice enough I'll eventually understand what the steps are really doing. A+
@charleslavoie7622
@charleslavoie7622 7 жыл бұрын
I am blocked at 6:20, I work with After Effects CC 2017 and the software doesn't show me the pickwhip option for the Radial Fast Blur's Center trigger... Nor can I write any expressions. Does somebody know how to solve the problem ?
@GROOVwithme
@GROOVwithme 7 жыл бұрын
Same here! did you manage to solve it?
@KreedFilms
@KreedFilms 7 жыл бұрын
hold the "alt" button, and click on the stopwatch
@omarhechtenkopf7992
@omarhechtenkopf7992 6 жыл бұрын
THANKS!!!
@snrozcn5033
@snrozcn5033 6 жыл бұрын
very thanksss
@goldDEN1000
@goldDEN1000 10 жыл бұрын
Русские поддерживают Эдрю Крамера! Продолжай делать такие видео-уроки!
@LaneCarter
@LaneCarter 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite tutorials.
@LilloPerez
@LilloPerez 5 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial; as a beginner, it helped me to add sunlight to an underwater effect. Thanks.
@d415izmyne
@d415izmyne 8 жыл бұрын
anybody figure out how to do the effect with the phone?
@highendlowlifeprod.
@highendlowlifeprod. 7 жыл бұрын
why do I lose mode switch when changing a layer to 3d?
@aeplug-aftereffectstutoria9210
@aeplug-aftereffectstutoria9210 7 жыл бұрын
Raytrace i think
@cressidagoa
@cressidagoa 7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Watched it pausing every 10 seconds. Tomorrow morning I am going to copy it exactly even if it takes me hours. Thanks Andrew.
@aarondraws7699
@aarondraws7699 4 жыл бұрын
exactly the effect i was looking for, looks excellent!
@HarryMcKenzieTV
@HarryMcKenzieTV 9 жыл бұрын
Funny in German that "Screen" mode is called "Negativ Multiplizieren" and i bet you know how to translate that. I wonder why.
@HarryMcKenzieTV
@HarryMcKenzieTV 9 жыл бұрын
at 7:30
@Ceonsamea
@Ceonsamea 8 жыл бұрын
+Harry McKenzie That's really interesting. In a lot of way, the German name makes much more sense, since screen is basically the opposite (lightening rather than darkening) mathematical operation of Multiply. (It inverts the layer and uses multiply logic, then inverts it back, to get a lightening effect.) I wonder what prompted the different choice in naming though. Is the word "Screen" simply lost-in-translation in some way?
@HarryMcKenzieTV
@HarryMcKenzieTV 7 жыл бұрын
hey cool thank you for the explanation!! :) sorry for the late reply though hahaha
@Ceonsamea
@Ceonsamea 7 жыл бұрын
Harry McKenzie Haha. Np! :)
@SidMercutio
@SidMercutio 9 жыл бұрын
yOU REALLY NEED TO SLOW DOWN AND DETAIL EVERYTHING YOU DO.... I end up pausing and going back only to see you did something you didnt say AND you're going so fast :/
@Miguel151169
@Miguel151169 9 жыл бұрын
I used to feel the same way you do, but you just have to get used to using the software so you can know where everything is at. I would practice by watching the tutorials twice then do what I learned from the video.
@warner6495
@warner6495 9 жыл бұрын
or you can hit pause like everyone else. How are you gonna tell him what he NEEDS to do. you`re ridiculous.
@MaghoxFr
@MaghoxFr 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's better to make a 90 minute detailed video aimed at retards who can't use the pause button.
@SidMercutio
@SidMercutio 9 жыл бұрын
Jamal Warner I'm ridiculo........Tell him what to do? O_o Umm......
@MichaelPari
@MichaelPari 6 жыл бұрын
I set mine to 2x speed & pause
@BrokenWorldMovie
@BrokenWorldMovie 10 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Thanks for taking the time to make these!
@CamilleKleinmanMusic
@CamilleKleinmanMusic 9 жыл бұрын
awesome tut as always! thank you so much Andrew! This is such a cooool effect!
@Link3131a
@Link3131a 10 жыл бұрын
1 person got too many dislikes on his videos hahahahah
@Acharknews
@Acharknews 8 жыл бұрын
i cant at 6:16 ! no english and im noob ! " we gona old click to the stop watch ..." what lol i have not the "pic wipe" !!! dont apear !
@Acharknews
@Acharknews 8 жыл бұрын
+acharknews.com الشرق للأخبار‎ ok its "alt" !
@pp7800
@pp7800 5 жыл бұрын
Pick whip
@cuentosnicaraguenses
@cuentosnicaraguenses 5 жыл бұрын
@@Acharknews Thank you very much, I could not find it.
@alanmcleans
@alanmcleans 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks! An excellent tutorial. I'm going to use this for the title of my movie. Really opened up many artistic ideas for me
@leonardspivey
@leonardspivey 10 жыл бұрын
thank you, Andrew. I now believe in my ability to grasp this stuff again.
@prod.hxrford3896
@prod.hxrford3896 8 жыл бұрын
lol, 74 dislikes
@Jonahrattler
@Jonahrattler 8 жыл бұрын
+SURREAL Studios they must not know how to follow along lol
@ktbffh4115
@ktbffh4115 6 жыл бұрын
176 dislikes now
@Phuey
@Phuey Жыл бұрын
i shouldn't watch this
@troyerz63
@troyerz63 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude... I used to doing this inside 3ds max ... you just saved me hours of render time... keep up the good work... cheers
@screamyblegh3253
@screamyblegh3253 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for leaving me hanging on the lighting thing
@Controvi
@Controvi 10 жыл бұрын
Dude You really made my day :) Was thinking it would all be amazingly hard but it isnt. And you really explane it clearly and with great humor :) Thx man!
@funkymanT
@funkymanT 10 жыл бұрын
Incredible, some top tips here. Thanks Andy
@stephencrown
@stephencrown 10 жыл бұрын
You're probably the best tutor on this planet! thanks a lot! love your videos.
@csxe
@csxe 6 жыл бұрын
the concept of this helped me create my own type of rays actually.
@nadimkazi87
@nadimkazi87 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Just wow! U rocked back then and u gonna rock in future! ✌️
@DoRC
@DoRC 7 жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch. I just got my full cc account after outgrowing filmora wondershare in about a week. I have never touched AE or PP before today. I have a lot to learn!
@yourtrainerfitness
@yourtrainerfitness 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing, love your work!!!
@veel1995
@veel1995 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this super-helpful and beautiful vid! If it wasn't for generous people like you, learning this stuff would be torture.
@GCG113
@GCG113 9 жыл бұрын
Great work man! I loved the info and delivery!!
@MehranIsmayilzadeh
@MehranIsmayilzadeh 7 жыл бұрын
Andrew YOU ARE REALLY GRATE/ I`m really not only watching and learning a lot of stuffs from you , but also get a fun )) Tanx a lot you dude !!!
@BernieBTeam
@BernieBTeam 9 жыл бұрын
Really nice, love your tutorial. As for the speed, no problem on my end, I followed very nicely during your video.
@adamehrlich2863
@adamehrlich2863 9 жыл бұрын
i was thinking batman literally the entire video!! when you finally did it I had to subscribe. Awesome tutorial :)
@KaaBockMehr
@KaaBockMehr 7 жыл бұрын
best after effects tutorials so far!
@Lucsy3012
@Lucsy3012 10 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, thank you so much. When you do it this it just looks pretty easy and I think I'll try this out soon, too! :)
@Cooliotso
@Cooliotso 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! This is excellent. I hope someday I will understand all this stuff.
@AMERiNORGE
@AMERiNORGE 7 жыл бұрын
Stumbled on a cool option with this set up that makes the light appear to shine out of the letters instead of from behind solid ones. To do it just hide the "Light source" layer then on the text layer click the second box in switch mode. Its the one between the Shy and quality boxes.
@Stanislawluberda
@Stanislawluberda 10 жыл бұрын
Ever look back on the creative cow days and just go "Whoa, tech has seriously changed things."? Thanks for all the practical lessons. Way more useful than other stuff I've seen.
@SMDParsa
@SMDParsa 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks from all of you. You are amazing I am watching, liking and sharing your videos. Keep it up. And thanks again from Video Copilot.
@J0hnPrest0n
@J0hnPrest0n 10 жыл бұрын
Awesom as always! Ty Andrew
@danielkilner1900
@danielkilner1900 9 жыл бұрын
Thx, I only needed like 10 seconds of this actual tutorial but it really helped!!
@RichardBorrowsPhotography
@RichardBorrowsPhotography 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, I thoroughly enjoyed this tutorial...Awesome!
@motionboss
@motionboss 10 жыл бұрын
Great tut after long time! Easy and helpful. Thanks. :)
@HeroDestrin
@HeroDestrin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to use this idea for my new channel intro, thanks so much! Plus, this is a SIX year old video and it STILL holds up!
@LastTurnFilms
@LastTurnFilms 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! We just used this technique in our latest short film. Super helpful stuff!
@maartenvanhoucke1447
@maartenvanhoucke1447 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice tutorial, and more than i expected ;) One small thing has changed in CC i guess, the Solid Composite is impossible to set the mode to none. I've tried setting it to 'hard light, which sort-off has the same effect.
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