Advanced Guide to Bastions in 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide!

[@PackTactics]

Link to the Kobold Plushie: my-store-c2baed.creator-spring.com/listing/buy-kobold?product=2444&variation=106876 Time's running out! You have till November 1st!

[@johannesstephanusroos4969]

That intro was certainly something... something homosensual 😂

[@AzureIV]

I think you need to go over the fact that you can combine your Bastions with the other players to create a bigger badder Bastion.

[@cheesedono2984]

Thanks for putting it back up on the store. I don't know why in your previous video it became unavailable but I was so psyched to see it back up!

[@Exp9378]

So I missed out on this I understand it is sold out . I am just wondering if there is ever a chance for a future reprint or did I just miss my one chance to get a plushie.

[@Michael-fd1gx]

I wish bastions included location based features/rooms.

[@Yvädastra]

It really says a lot about our generation's housing market when we get off to the fantasy of owning a residential space larger than a broom closet.

[@scummy678]

lmfao

[@sportybrian]

Owning a castle has long been part of D&D. It was even in 2012, but just as a mention. Although my campaigns always have fallen apart before anyone gets serious about what rooms do what, apart from having some NPCs to make consumables.

[@nm2358]

DM's regularly throw property at players, and have for decades. Having a "home" is a necessity for your early adventurers to actually have roots in the world they're saving, the only difference is, Bastions (2024) give players some mechanical benefits for owning these spaces.

[@catvamp100]

I always thought this came out your gold every month or tenday

[@RenoReborn]

You can afford a broom closet? Jealous

[@OryxArt]

"Where murder hobos are no longer hobos" killed me 😂

[@CaideJordan]

Just murderers

[@Plasmagon99]

Sir Gregory Fince: The Torian Butchers are butchered, Murder hobos are... Random Council member: Wait.. they're not hobos any more, they have a bastion. Sir Gregory Fince again: Never mind that, they got murdered, and the Death Dealers are all dead.

[@zombieninjapitbull3856]

My playgroup calls it murder homeowners

[@keelsron634]

I love the fact that you use Castle Grayskull as your bastion in the thumbnail, and I believe you said it perfectly, it's just fun interesting extra mechanics available to your playgroup! Use it or don't.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

He-Man! And The Masters Of The Universe! I am Adam, prince of Eternia and defender of the secrets of Castle Grayskull This is Cringer, my fearless friend Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic sword and said: "Hey yaaaaa...."

[@nickm9102]

I feel like this is the go to. Even VM has greyskull keep as early as their home game. I'm going to do it the right way and make mine Snake Mountain.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

At the point where you have a teleportation circle in your bastion it is officially a relevant POI of that world. Those things are expensive and immensely useful. A high level spell caster needs 1 year to make one of those. They are about as expensive as an airport and even more useful.

[@arcturuslight_]

I am imagining that the facility is making bags of gold daily from mages using it, but it all goes to paying off the debt from building it XD

[@tuseroni6085]

my DM has special rules relating to teleportation circles...well more like LAWS, they a highly regulated.

[@RaethFennec]

This is a great video for explaining the available options, along with some suggestions. I did a little back of the napkin math and found that for a barracks to be beneficial, you'd need 6 or more players with their bastions built together, AND they'd have to only be able to issue orders 50% of the time. So if you have sending stones or some other means of communicating back to home base (which you absolutely should if you have a Bastion), a barracks might end up being a complete loss of efficiency every time you pick it. Not to mention, Defenders are the only Bastion NPCs that die. If you're attacked and use defenders, people die at the cost of potentially preserving the use of one special facility for one bastion turn. If you have no defenders... ironically, no one dies. Your hirelings are still safe. They just trash the place and shut down operations while the hirelings run or hide or something. lol Is it more ethical and more efficient to forego defenses? So, my takeaway is... never build defenses. They're inordinately expensive to protect against a very small loss of efficiency and no lasting consequences. Much of the exploits from the UA were fixed, like specifying that magical brews from the pub retain their effect for only 24 hours after being poured. But it looks like they still left some unclear wording in the Bastions that allows for some fun RAW thought experiments (that should never, ever be attempted or allowed at any real table.) For example, building defensive walls says that you pick a spot "around" your Bastion. It probably should have said immediately adjacent, or within your Bastion. There's no distance limitation, though. So let's say I'm willing to build a defensive wall with a radius of hundreds or even thousands of miles. A Guildhall: Masons' Guild can build a defensive wall at no cost, every day. Well, I'm going to start my defensive wall immediately on top of the evil king's throne in the capital city 100 miles away. Within 1 day, a 20' tall, 5'x5' section of fortified wall is built atop of the throne. If they tear it down... they just rebuilt it the next day! Your move, evil king! Of course, no one reasonable would interpret the text this way. It's clearly meant to imply that the defensive walls are within or immediately adjacent to you or your ally's Bastion. I also really love that they improved the Smithy from producing +1 magic weapons to producing common or uncommon magic items from the Armaments table. I'd love to see what's on that table, though!

[@masterofastra]

This is such a cool system, and coming in at just the right time for my campaign, my players are level 6 right now and have been begging for a home base.

[@captainrelyk]

Do your players a favor and tell them they can ignore prerequisites for special facilities. If s monk who worships a god wants a sanctuary, let them have a sanctuary

[@sal23246]

One shot idea: You are the bad guys protecting the bastion, prevent the heroes from invading and destroying your group's plans for global destruction. And it would be a Tower defense

[@arcturuslight_]

Villain lair simulator huh

[@josephschubert6561]

That intro is hilarious

[@ムシtsvbakiI-I411ITI3]

I've never related to you as much as with that opening

[@PackTactics]

You don't want people to come over to your house for Halloween?

[@Chrystals_Garden16]

​@@PackTactics I do!

[@1.21jiggawatts2]

Finally a place to store all kobold plushies

[@EsShinkai02]

Now I just need to convince my DM to let me make a mobile bastion so I can have a pirate ship!

[@Semielfo]

That's a great idea

[@thezyreick4289]

there is no rule saying it cant be mobile i dont think. but you would obviously loose some functions

[@EvelynNdenial]

the shipbuilders guild would be super cool. imagine having a fleet of airships by the time you fight the bbeg. crew kitted out with magic missile wands and a dozen barrels of gunpowder slung under each ship and rigged to drop. we've got a proper RAW way to beat sul katesh now that we can get get non-magical flight with airships and massive non-magical fire damage from storehouse acquired gunpowder.

[@jkgames3144]

this is the thing I'm most excited for in the 2024 DMG

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

I can't recommend enough for players to look up the old 3e book Stronghold Builder's Guidebook. The pdf is easy to find, and the there is a lot more detail and customization for each type of facility listed in that book.

[@nickm9102]

All casters want the Teleportation circle. Any hirelings for it can be useful with a couple of different spells but the real part is to build up for lvl 17+ when things like clone, create Magen and simulacrum can be done by the hireling also by lvl 13 a wizard never has to be away from the Bastion with teleport and teleportation circle. I still like the idea of the bastion making money. In addition to the garden fabricate plate armor for 1500 gp. Between crafting options and fabricate you can definitely speed up any crafting process. Even in AL you can cheese the system.

[@HistoryAndLore]

What if you cast magic mouth on the door to your character's room with the instruction to say the fallowing as if from inside the room "Don't come in and stay away from this door! Perform a Harvest action and then return for a new command in one week!"

[@kmgenius]

I've been coming up with a lot of different homebrew facility ideas. Stuff like a fighting pit, a hatchery, a spa, bunker, and vault

[@DungeonsandDeadlifts1]

I started using this in my long term campaign when the ua came out. I tried balancing it more because some seem lack luster. I also made it where all of these buildings are part of a small village that will grow with the party as they become lords of it over the course of the campaign sort of taking the garrison idea from WOW as inspiration.

[@DungeonsandDeadlifts1]

Fun fact for how they found their bastion already constructed. They found a town that had been consumed by a false hydra and had to figure it out and defeat it to earn the bastion

[@spacespector]

There is also the 3e Stronghold builders guidebook. I may pull from there for more building options

[@meninolince]

nice Hat. good Kobold vibes. Have a treat!

[@rpghorrorstories]

I have an idea for Bastions: During a period of downtime (1-2 weeks), you can spend time at an appropriate Bastion facility to retrain a class feature that normally requires a level up. If you do not have a Bastion, you may need to pay someone else for their use.

[@michaellawyer4885]

"Get out of here Jordan Peterson" lol I'm dying

[@zenith110]

I really enjoy this aspect of older DnD I'm looking forward to this

[@lunasterling4009]

My party has been using the test material version for a while now and it is pretty fun, but quite limited per person. That version really requires people to communicate and build bastions with each other's in mind

[@jasonking3182]

Am I the only one thinking of using these rules for player controlled Ships and Army’s? You would just need to come up with new tables to roll on for different events during sea voyages or military campaigns. The PC’s could get benefits similar to the Bastion rooms like money from trade, armed camps in the wilderness with there army.

[@RositaDepre]

Sounds cool

[@Plasmagon99]

Sir Gregory Fince: The Torian Butchers are butchered, Murder hobos are... Random Council member: Wait.. they're not hobos any more, they have a bastion. Sir Gregory Fince again: Never mind that, they got murdered, and the Death Dealers are all dead.

[@modakkagitplugga]

How would refugees realistically provide anything more than a financial burden until you are able to place them into specified hire hireling roles? It should cost you to help them, unless you can spin it around and successfully put them to work for you. That's whole sessions right there of keeping everyone alive and internal politics managed to prevent hostile takeovers, with each "mutiny" being intensely personal and motivated by a handful of "powerful" characters. Like how in the series "The Terror" almost everyone probably would have survived if they had done more due diligence and trusted the only guy who knew what to expect, versus the unmitigated disaster it ended as.

[@goldensajti9022]

Be a necromancer and turn enemy into free minions imagine, horde of dead selling flowers random on the street its sound so funny lol

[@eigonofcarim1406]

oh yes, preview with the definetely-not-a-piese-cleric sign

[@PackTactics]

I HAVE THE POWER!

[@GoldfishEmpire]

If you had enough time, could you cheat in an extra special facility if you spent a year casting Teleportation Circle in your bastion?

[@CertifiedRobutler]

I love the megadeath reference in the thumbnail with kobold!

[@H3xx99]

Just got inspired to make a new magic item... Very rare, the Portable Mine. At first glance, it appears to be a heavy grey tarp rolled up. When unrolled, its 8 feet long and 5 feet wide. One end is Semi-circular, making it appear to be shaped like an arched doorway. You can roll it onto a wall and it will stick to the wall of it's own accord. When fully unrolled onto a wall, the surface transforms into solid stone. If you use a pickaxe or other mining tools on the stone, you break into a 20 foot diamter circular room that appears to be a natural cave. In the center is a small basin or pool. The first person to break through the stone and enter the room gains instinctual knowledge that they are the owner of this room and can make other people co-owners by inviting them and having them give an offering of their lifeblood to the pool in the center. (A small cut and a few drops is all ot takes. For those who do not have blood, a small piece of themselves is required) The mine consists of poor quality stone that wouldn't be enticing to any buyer if quarried, and encompases 1\4 cubic miles of stone per owner. This 1\4 cubic mile will serve as that owner's bastion and the rooms will appear when it is available. The appearance of the stone and interior molds itself to the owner's wishes, even being able to give a convincing display of the sky, though it is completely illusionary. The inside of the mine is stable and doesn't shake, even if the entrance is affixed to a mobile structure. Despite being an extra dimensional space, it does not adhear to the rules about extra dimensional spaces being placed inside one another, though other extra dimensional items still follow the rules as normal. You can take a bag of holding and a handy haversack inside the mine, but you still can't put the bag of holding insided the haversack even while inside the mine. If the mine is ever taken off the wall amd rolled back up, any creature inside will have 5 minutes of air for every 5 cubic feet of open space inside. If all owners die without creating new owners, the walls will begins slowly closing in from the deepest depths of the mine to the entrance, absorbing all inanimate objects or people unlucky enough to not make it out in time. The portable mine will then roll itself up, and disolve into fine dust. Obviously this would need some tweaking, but I think it would absolutely be fun to use it as a mobile home.

[@ChillingWithChu]

Wait, thumbnail has both a He-Man and Peace Sells (MegaDeath) ref. Very nice

[@PackTactics]

What do you mean I don't believe in god? Talk to him everyday!

[@duanebradway1627]

I love the concept of bastions. I look forward to using them in my games.

[@jimsandercock1629]

Combined with the Acquisition Incorporated adventure... break out the spreadsheets!

[@atoucangirl]

seens to me like you should always be rolling on the events table, but you get advantage on that roll if you give the maintain order. could make it more iteresting.

[@captainrelyk]

Why can’t a zealot barbarian be allowed to have a sanctuary?

[@lucasramey6427]

Bastion system would function pretty well in a game of kingmaker if someone were to convert it to 5e, simply just reflavor the rooms as buildings in a settlement

[@marknickson9377]

how spells like Mighty Fortress and Temple of the gods work with Bastions. Forbiddance is a good spell is to use for Bastions

[@gabrielrussell5531]

"The scriptorium can print counterspell scrolls for you" Reactions scrolls probably wouldn't work, since you can't grab a scroll from your inventory off-turn.

[@TheSolitaryEye]

I love these rules, and they progress quite nicely

[@matthewball2354]

I love you Pack Tactics!

[@MumboJ]

Having walls cost money based on size despite getting no benefit from larger bastions is such a miss. It seems as though flavour isn't truly free after all. Also, the facility size determines the "maximum" space it takes up, meaning you can theoretically make a "roomy" sweatshop with exactly enough space for your hirelings to work and no more, just to make walls cheaper. Don't forget to combine all of your party's bastions into one giant square with no corridors or basic facilities, just to maximize the value of walls. Edit: Just realized the Defensive Walls only have a 5% chance of being relevant, and ONLY on the Maintain order. So all that time and money, and the horror of pitting your roleplayers against your optimizers, for almost no actual benefit. Just don't build walls, it's not worth it.

[@gabrielcoutinho4414]

I have a question. IIRC, in the playtest, you could share a bastion with other PCs. If this feature is still in place, is there anything in the new rules restricting you from using facilities built by other PCs. Also, if that is possible, is it possible for more than one PC gain the benefits of a facility at the same time? The benefits I have in mind are things like the inspiration you get from the workshop.

[@galen-eu1vu]

Consider the following: a group of adventurers is plundering a large hoard. The 5th level sidekick Expert has filled a bag of holding to the limit with gold coins, and carries it off to the corner so it doesn't get overloaded. She finds a dusty mirror, wipes it with her sleeve to check the reflection quality, and suddenly finds herself in another place. A place of dense fog, with a lifeless sandy floor. After a few hours, she figures help isn't coming, and decides to spend the gold to build a Bastion inside her unbounded cell of the Mirror of Life Trapping. Putting aside the rules for the mirror itself - each such Mirror is a unique item and can have whatever properties the story requires - does the Bastion RAW work like that? Sacrifice the Gold to an unknown entity and the structure simply appears?

[@michaeln.9897]

I can totally see myself playing in a campaign that basically centers around a bastion. I love micromanaging stuff, RPing with hirelings and lieutenants, this is my kind of campaign!

[@patrickmcathey7081]

Could you use wall of stone to get the wall for free?

[@PackTactics]

I would let you. Idk if anyone else would. This is a good idea lol.

[@samuelhawkins3820]

The intro makes me think that someone laced kobold’s candy

[@kobitz9001]

intro made me lol. thanks for being you

[@thegloatingstorm8323]

The garden imo is solid at level 5, then you replace it at level 9. (Assuming you can swap things out like in playtest) Or, since you are a team with a party (presumably), get both! Free healing potions are better than crafting them yourself c:

[@urbypilot2136]

Imagine introducing a new group to D&D through the 2024 5E updates, and playing LoMP. Tresendar Manor is liekly going to be rebuilt at the end of that adventure into the players’ new bastion.

[@RoninXDarknight]

Starting a new campaign tomorrow night and one of the other players brought up using Bastions. Not sure what the DM's decision is yet but they could be a ton of fun :D

[@MumboJ]

Did they remove the distinction between different types of orders? In the playtest you could only issue one order at a time, incentivizing multiple facilities that trigger on the same order. But the new version seems to imply that you can issue different orders to each of your facilities on the same turn, meaning there is no longer any need to list which facility uses which type of order.

[@admcleo]

I like this feature a lot and hope they implement more things for it and stuff that interacts with it. Though I fear this is going to be a lot like Sidekicks, a good system that is more or less ignored after its release.

[@thislink1519]

Slice of Life fantasy/Isekai anime vibes. By the Grace of the Gods ahh mechanic

[@MarshaunLugo]

200% this!

[@bigdream_dreambig]

Unfortunately, players' imaginations and PCs' resources are less limiting than this system is, so they can't just build a structure and organization exactly as they imagine it (as the levels are gained). Maybe future elaborations on the bastion system will eventually fix this limitation? 🤷‍♂

[@chocolatecello1483]

There's a typo on the table at 4:18 where it says lore hirelings instead of lost hirelings (was able to see it thanks to you posting again at 4:53)

[@groovydude4511]

Bastions seem really really fun. As a DM, I hope my players would be interested. As a player, I hope my DM would let us use them.

[@Colouroutofspace4]

The DMG has a lot of cool stuff for players. Does it have anything to help keep encounters challemging and balanced wirh all the cool stuff for players in this book?

[@UltimateMustacheX]

So the storehouse can sell goods beyond what it gathers on the prior order? Based on the text, it seems like it's only goods (1lb of weat, 1 goat, etc.) since that's what the order will buy. So could I put a glass bottle of acid (3 days worth of acid from an alchemy jug) in there and sell it for more than the full cost (150 gold in this case)? I really like that, but assumed it wasn't the case, due to how much money you can rack up. Saying you're stuck with just selling the goods it gathers, locks you into the 500 gp limit, so I could see them intending that.

[@Schmiduku]

The first thing I think of for the training area is getting weapon mastery on a war cleric without class dipping or taking a feat.

[@psuedonoob6062]

I am about to run a sea-based campaign and im gonna let them turn their ship into a bastion i cant wait to see how that turns out

[@BovineTerror]

How long do the benefits from the Training Area last?

[@Semielfo]

How is this different from AD&D 2nd edition, Player's Options - Combats & Tactics? Several ideas for the latest playtests & the new books were borrowed from the abopve book & skills & Powers. Maybe it's worth a video about recycling & upgrading old ideas...

[@PackTactics]

Sorry I'm not doing that.

[@TheHerrDoctor]

I'm starting a campaign where the party runs a Tavern and I feel like Using Bastion rules will be perfect for it (we start at lvl 1 with no special rooms tho)

[@jaceg810]

How do you call a group of hirelings armed with wands of magic missiles? An evaporator

[@neoman4426]

Fact that the UA version let you cast a 10th level spell was hilarious. Like, only at 20th level, and it's just Healing Word so it wouldn't have really broken anything, but spells above 9th level are supposed to be a pretty big deal. Being limited to a base level cast (assuming the wording you've put here is accurate to what's in the DMG) might be correcting too far in the other direction, but it's still a decent enough freebie to have in your back pocket I suppose

[@Esproth]

I was making a joke character on DND beyond when I noticed that the Giant Fly and that one elephant sized snail could be familiars and I couldn't stop laughing at the idea of riding a giant snail home from the dungeon because the horses got eaten or whatever for the 900th time. I can't imagine what optimizers could do with this but I'm definitely only using this it in silly ways outside combat.

[@Esproth]

Just moving 10 feet a round when going fast, and 5 feet when you want your pet Kaiju Snail to be sneaky

[@Hawkeye9165]

Hmmm still not sold on the bastion thing at all, for those that like it I think it's wonderful although definitely worth paying attention to the small text.... i.e. the reliquary is only for pallys, clerics, and druids (check the pre-req). :o)

[@Unclevertitle]

Information not mentioned out loud but hella important to me from looking at the text typed out: Some of the special facility prerequisites have changed since the UA document! 6:56 Arcane Study: Was "Ability to use an Arcane Focus as a Spellcasting Focus" now includes "or a tool" Workshop: Was "Expertise in a skill" now is "none" Smithy: Was "Fighting Style feature or Unarmored Defense feature" now is "none" Forge Clerics and Artificers rejoice! You are no longer being accidentally barred from having extremely thematic Special Facilities in your bastions. This is especially good for Artificer what with now having access to all three of those facilities when they had access to none them in the UA. 9:58 Training Area: Was "Expertise in a skill, Fighting Style Feature, or Unarmored Defense feature" now is "None" 12:42 Demiplane: Was "Ability to use an Arcane Focus as a Spellcasting Focus" now includes "or a tool" As an Artificer fan, I really like being able to get access to the Demiplane's Fabrication feature. Kind of wish that feature was better though. A limit of 5gp on object when the facility requires a level 17 character is kind of silly.

[@gearsofdawn]

I wanted a plushie since I first saw it but had to debate if I needed it. I just ordered one. I love kobolds, and I could always use another plushie.

[@TheCoaIa]

Hmm Bastions feel like unnecessary rulings. Objects and walls have hp already and items have prices. Generating money by working or creating a business doesnt really need additional rules imo. And whether I buy stuff from my trusted vendors or create it or let it create in my bastion to me is just flavor for how I want to roleplay getting it. The only point I can think of is that its raising the loot floor if dm's are stingy, or in general provide an idea of what things should be how rare to obtain at what level

[@MrAyeSir]

I wonder if and how Bastions interact with Magnificent Manor

[@laovazquez927]

can your bastion be something like a ship?

[@shadow-faye]

11:40 whats that?

[@frogmeister2407]

Ive watched this video like 5 times and somehow missed the halloween bit. I just lost my shit 😂😂

[@LurchLand]

Wait... a warlock could get a lot of mileage from Demiplane room combined with their own Armor of Agathys.

[@jwmmitch]

Wait.... you can just leave your house with THP? Does that mean if you cast armor of Agathys and have it last all day?

[@Strongeyez]

what if your from baldur's gate and are playing a game in Eberron? I would want my bastion in BG

[@johnsikking4891]

Hmmm, it sounds a lot like MCDM's Strongholds with a bit of TocaBocca added in.

[@slaplapdog]

I am seeing a large pack of pet Hyenas in my future!

[@davidpaikins3172]

I don't understand pub In a low-level game having plot hooks can be difficult. But by the time you're 13th level you should be on a main quest line. I'm not looking for random quest

[@lastar7824]

Peak intro

[@kmgenius]

I had to massively reduce the time these take to build in my game. Who has that much in game time?

[@blakeetter280]

Hey kobold, I’m planning a campaign around this in the near future! We’d love to have you

[@PackTactics]

I'd love to join but I already play in 3 games and I'm too busy. Sorry.

[@blakeetter280]

@@PackTactics lol I didn’t even expect a response XD made my day man! Love your vids

[@rpghorrorstories]

You could have as a backstory that you used to work at a bastion before taking up a life of adventuring.

[@MartinGasparini86]

the idea is built one with all the party the mage build the arcane study the fighter build the armory something like that combining everything and have all items and exchange them if you work together you could make a castle with all the facilities

[@prosamis]

KOBOLD???? What was that opening????

[@Eladdan]

I like the idea of a keep or a stronghold. Bastions in 5.5 are not that. They're more like in-game safe spaces than the former, what with how they don't really exist in the world. Events that take place in the world that have far reaching implications don't affect bastions because the rules for them don't allow it. Rimemaiden dropping the temperature of the region to deadly levels, bastion's still comfortably toasty. Volcano spewing virulent red ash all over the territory, bastion is disease free and no more red than the bricks that made it. No, bastions break immersion as bad as a knock-off Naruto character in King Arthur's court. A proper keep exists in the world, is part of the world and can be affected by the world.

[@fadeleaf845]

The intent is for them to do as little as possible to impact the world because all the adventures are railroads with no agency and having a bastion become a centerpoint in the narrative would "get in the way" of whatever slop the adventure module tries to shove down your throat.

[@TheRealmDrifter]

Level 99 Bastion: Abandoned Grocery Kart

[@tedwasanasan3805]

Do you really need a whole dnd book to tell you what a house or building is?

[@Transplantuwu]

Banger intro LMFAO

[@mikecarson7769]

"Get out of here, Jor### Pe######" 🤣🤣🤣

[@mikkolautamo]

Woah, refugees improve your economy? That’s unexpected realism from D&D. Cool!

[@Jim_Owen]

Thumbs up for thumb nail

[@paradoxiusblackgaming2158]

I love the Popper hat ^^

[@unciuncia420]

You overlooked something with using the menagerie for defenders. You could get 64 cats. That's a ton of defenders. Because defenders have one stat block. Creature defenders don't use their statblocks. If every player in a party does that, that's 320 defenders. You don't have to deal anything else after that.

[@KoiosDusklight]

I don't see cats on the table?

[@NoESanity]

If you're going to bend the rules that much, why not just get 64 Velociraptors and reenactment jurassic park.

[@unciuncia420]

@@NoESanity Not really rule bending. It might 8 normal, but that's also 16 small, or 64 tiny creatures. That's kinda like saying that attacking with spiritual weapon the same turn you cast it is rules bending.

[@unciuncia420]

@@KoiosDusklight DM can add more things. First thing I thought of because my players are the type to have a menagerie and fill it full of cats to be a crazy lady.

[@NoESanity]

@@unciuncia420 1. No, small creatures and medium creatures take up the same size space, get up to date on the rules. 2. Cats are not on the list, so yes, you are bringing not 1 but 2 rules.

[@zaneharris706]

my current idea is just use the stone wall spell to get defensive walls for free

[@CaldariDatacore]

I dont understand why functional rooms are free while roleplay rooms have purchase price?