KTM 390 Adventure - First Service - 600 Miles

[@technician199]

Freaked out as well when I saw those screens on the 390 ADV first oil change, glad I wasn't the only one!

[@rvator7291]

New owner of a 2023 which is a few days old. Salesman told me at my local dealer that if I did first one myself I would void the warranty. I took this with a grain of salt since you can count on one hand the number of times I've taken a bike to the dealer in the last 45yrs of riding. I plan on documenting as you did ,but not sure if I can get ahold of a check list to make it official. Very Informative vid even at 3 yrs old.

[@advmatt]

Thanks. I found a check list on line for the service intervals. Not sure what I did with it or I would send it to you. I end up watching this often to reset the service light.

[@RadioSnivins]

Youey doesn't dig links. I tried. Goog KTM 390 ADVENTURE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. The first chap that pops up is the magoo. I also have a brand new, 2 month old, 2023 390 Adv. I'm Australian, and I go for my licence next Friday. I'll hit 5000km(3,100 miles) by then. I love it. The only onion-in-the-ointment is the shortness of the first. Still, mustn't blub. Cooee!

[@dustytravels9458]

Great video! Not sure if you mentioned it, but as with any engine oil change, be sure and run the engine for several minutes just prior to the change. This warms the oil and allows it to flow better in the draining process. Also remove all screens and filters, allow all oil to drain before replacing any of the components.

[@advmatt]

Great tips, I didn't mention.

[@battlejitney2197]

Perfect video. Clear and direct. Just what I was looking for!

[@Ionizem]

Thanks for a great video! I'll be performing my first service after the first hour or so... I figured there would crud left over from manufacturing. Your experience confirms my belief!

[@MrCeama]

Many thanks for your valuable comments. Very nice from you.

[@nowlinak]

Great video. I used your video as a guide to change my oil on my 390. It was easy, thanks to your video.

[@advmatt]

Fantastic, glad it helped.

[@skydart60]

Great vid mate, just bought a 390 and really excited to take delivery. The first service vid is super useful as we are in difficult times and I may need to know exactly what to do.

[@scottsmith1897]

Sweet......... picking up my 2023 this weekend. Now to get 600 miles on it......

[@advmatt]

Should be easy, because it is so fun.

[@marcjohnson7734]

In my 30 years of riding I've never seen such debris stuck to the screen filters ever, it's probably worth doing a change at 300 miles first then clean those filters,they certainly did their job I'm buying a 390 adventure and I think for the cost I'll be doing a 300 mile one Great video my the way forgot to say,was still in shock at those screens

[@advmatt]

I was shocked how many metal filings were on the screens. Fortunately I have been able to put 27k miles on the engine so far and it's still running strong.

[@marcjohnson7734]

@@advmatt that's excellent have you checked the shock rubbers? I've seen some videos saying because of the heat from that chamber the shocks rubber and seals fail causing leaks,have you flipped that rubber bung up and had a look? 1 more thing,have you replaced the chain? Apparently they stretch far more than they should ( only what I've heard) so if anyone would know,it would be you) thanks for your time 👌

[@advmatt]

@@marcjohnson7734 yeah, I blew two shocks. I did videos on those issues. The solution was to replace the resonator with a straight thru pipe to reduce the heat on the shock. I did a video on that too. I have a Hyperpro shock now and it is awesome. I am on my fourth chain. The first chain was done after 6k miles. I replaced it with a $60 chain and 10k on it and then replaced it again with another $60 chain but only got around 8k miles this time around, but it saw a lot of water.

[@leeinwis]

Chinese leave alot of crud inside, lucky you don't find body parts .

[@CalgaryGuy71]

Thank you for this! I will likely take mine into the dealership for the first service as I also want to get the slipper clutch unlocked but I will be doing my own services going forward! I also had the dealer throw in the first service so it saves me $380 (which is ridiculous in my opinion).

[@sdefiel3719]

For my first oil change I used your vid. It was the best out of three that I found. They were all good, but yours was the my favorite. It took me three hours though! This ain't like my Harley ... or my Yamaha ... or my Kawi ... or my Himi. I'll have it down to > one hour next time. 🤞 Thanks, S

[@tonypalermo5796]

After my second oil change at 1200 miles both screens and filter were very clean, oil discolored but not black. My first oil change n filters was done after only 300 miles. Why wait for gunk and particles to build up during break in. I use 10/50 synthetic.

[@advmatt]

Agreed. If I had known so much gunk was on the screens I would have changed the oil sooner.

[@jbarksdale227]

I really appreciate the detailed video. Thanks!

[@advmatt]

You bet. I use it all the time to reset my service light, I can't ever remember how. Cheers.

[@tomg4592]

Good job. Very informative. Keep the videos coming.

[@javierc2726]

Matt, if the check engine light is not on, there's no need to scan anything. You tipically scan when you have a problem, to find out what it is

[@advmatt]

I can't remember what the scan was in reference to but on my BMW bikes I have to use an OBD link to reset the service reminder. I might have initially been thinking about that.

[@rickasker]

Excellent video, clear and concise and thanks for making it 👍

[@aktm4u]

I have found that using snap ring pliers is the easiest way to remove the filter. I do that on my 350 EXC-F and it makes it easy. In the early 2000's I had a 2002 640 LC4 (pig) and then sold and upgraded to a 950 Adventure in 2005, which was an absolute blast. I sold the 950 in 2008 and have been kicking myself ever since. I also had a 2005 525 EXC which I traded for the smaller more nimble 350 EXC-F in 2012, which was a great decision in hind site. Thinking of getting back into Adventure Riding again but I'm not sure if I want the much bigger 890 Adventure. Very interested in the 390's price point, but I'm just not convinced it will be enough engine nor enough suspension. Wish they would convert the 500 EXC into an Adventure Bike and keep the same suspension only with heavier springs.

[@advmatt]

I am with you on the converting the 500EXC to an adventure bike. Better yet, convert the 690 to an adventure bike chassis and I would be first in line. The cost of converting a 690 Enduro into a more adventure type bike gets into 890 price range.

[@deadmanprodinc]

I use a magnet to pull that "hard to grab" filter. I liked your review of the 390 adventure in your other video. I'm convinced to get one and perhaps let my 1290 go if the 390 meets my needs. Would be nice if it was closer to 60hp though. A little more confidence passing semi's you know......

[@advmatt]

I agree, a few more ponies would be nice. I am waiting to see what the 490 will be like.

[@airfoil]

Before you put the new oil filter in, fill it up with fresh oil so oil circulates immediately after the bike is restarted.

[@haico1992]

If you change oil while it still hot, there is still oil protecting the engine anyway.

[@16driver16]

You can't fill these type of filters

[@leswainman8067]

Hi great info from you I’m seriously thinking about moveing on from my 950 supermoto to a 390 even just for the weight and cost differences plus it looks a fun bike thanks

[@advmatt]

It's a super fun bike. Going lighter really makes a difference.

[@michaelsupple6081]

Lots of great info in both the video and the comments. Thanks to you for posting the vid and the others for posting additional info. BTW...I picked up my 390 just today! Very stoked. I had heard finding neutral was a bitch. They didn't lie! I also heard it gets easier. :)

[@advmatt]

It is a pain. I rock the bike back and forth, that seems to help.

[@toshstorm]

😂😂 this is hilarious, I bought my first bike and it’s a 399 Duke and I thought I was really really just a newbie bc sometimes it was tricky to hit N lol glad to know I’m not the only one

[@yowser8780]

Just did mine at 210 miles. Lots of debris just like yours. You can wash out and then blow out the nylon filter with air pressure. Saves paying $40 for the 'oil change kit' versus $4 for a filter.

[@advmatt]

Not sure about blowing out filters. Definitely replace after the first oil change. After that I think you can clean them and maybe change them every two or three oil changes. I will probably change them every oil change when possible. On a long trip maybe just the filter.

[@yowser8780]

@@advmatt Discard the filter. Just clean and blow out the nylon screens. That's all they are us just screens. I have had other KTM's 690 and 500exc. I have been cleaning the 'nylon screens' for years they will last forever unless you damage one. You can change the 'O' ring and filter for $5... as opposed to paying $45 for a filter, 2 screens, and an O ring.

[@advmatt]

Thanks, I will start doing that.

[@brunol3874]

Had the same crud on my screens (mostly the larger one). Drilled in a small screw to get the oil filter out; odd design.

[@SPARTAN8746]

That's a great video! Congrats!

[@tonypalermo5796]

I was concerned after watching this with my first oil change on the 2022 390 ADV , so I decided to change oil and filter after 300 miles . Both screens were fairly clean with very few partials. The oil was not very dirty. So why wait till 600 miles when it's so important for a correct break in.

[@advmatt]

It is my understanding break in oil is different from standard oil and helps all the parts seat in. Not sure if it is additive free for if there is a different additive. I think the 600 mile mark is more of an industry standard rather than a necessity. I need to research this a bit more. If I had known the screens would have came out full of debris I would have changed my oil sooner too.

[@soylocotero]

Muchas gracias me toca hacer a mi mismo el cambio de aceite por las festividades, con tu vídeo me ayuda mucho

[@markcollins5026]

Man, good info, I'm looking to buy one of these bike's, going for a test ride next week, trade in my crf250l !

[@OutWithTheWildThings]

Did you end up trading the CRF250L for a 390 Adventure? If so, are you happy about the switch?! Going back and forth between these two bikes

[@markcollins5026]

@@OutWithTheWildThings man, I ended up getting a new white 2020 versys X300 I liked the lower seat height and it was less cheese 🧀, still breaking it in love it so far !

[@OutWithTheWildThings]

@@markcollins5026 right on, thanks!

[@rodbowes5309]

Good video! One thing I would suggest that before ever removing a drain plug check that the filler plug isn't seized in place. Don't ask me how I learnt that one!

[@advmatt]

Great tip.

[@themarvelousvintage76]

Wow first service all metal inside the engine brake down like that?that's crazy

[@SBMotoZ]

Another great vid Matt, super pumped to take ownership of new 22' 390 adv this weekend. I plan on doing my first service, I'm assuming this won't void the Warranty. ? I really don't want to pay $300 + for and Oil change, Nut bolt inspection, inflate tires ,and computer scan. I can do all these except the ECU scan, is it necessary if your not throwing and codes ? Anyways, thanks for all the great VIDS, your channel is a big reason why I chose the 390 ADV....Cheers !

[@advmatt]

Thanks! As for warranty it depends where you live. If you are in the United States you are protected and can do your own service without voiding the warranty. I dont know about other countries. Enjoy this great bike.

[@tomg6284]

Just got my 2022 390 adv. Did oil at 114 miles. Lots of metal in the screens and oil. Will do it again at 250 miles. Don't like metal cutting thinks up.

[@advmatt]

My second oil change was pretty clean.

[@tomg6284]

Thanks Matt. Good to know. Ordered lots of filters, just in case things get messed up with supply chain.

[@nestrada19740]

Great explanation. Thanks.

[@advmatt]

Service reminder reset is at the end of the video.

[@glaurini]

To avoid oil all over the exhaust you can use Aluminium foil (for cooking).

[@advmatt]

Great idea. Thanks.

[@581937]

Thanks for the video!

[@jra901225able]

Great video, one question if I don't have the two new strainers is there a way I could clean them? Thanks

[@advmatt]

Yeah, you can clean them. I clean them most of the time, however after the first oil change I don't I recommend it because of all the metal debris. To clean them I blow them out with air and sometimes spray them down with brake cleaner and wipe then down really well. Be careful not to mash the screens.

[@ijs537]

6:29 I'm sure it was your boots but it sounded like you had a bean burrito for breakfast 😁

[@WpgBarry]

Great video! Thx! Wow! That's a lot of debris in the oil filters! Particularly concerning in that those aren't just fine particles, but large chunks. Whether from manufacturing debris or break in, no way to view this as a good or normal thing. Keep in mind that most of that debris circulated within the motor to some degree prior to arriving at the filter. Concerning...!?

[@advmatt]

I think the strainers are before the main oil filter and the oil pump in the oil flow path. I think when oil is pulled out of the sump it passes through the strainer, then the filter, then the oil pump before circulating to bearing ports so the large debris was hopefully in the larger cavities and got flushed out and not from the critical wear areas. Time will tell. The second oil change will be interesting.

[@haico1992]

@@advmatt how was the 2nd oil change?

[@advmatt]

@@haico1992 the screens came out clean and the oil still looked nearly new. It could have gone longer. When the warranty expires I will extend service intervals with full synthetic oil.

[@claretbuck1882]

Awesome top job bud 👌🏻

[@Toomanydays]

Changed my oil and the material on the screens looks like gasket sealant. I don't think any of it is metal. Also, the oil was light in color and about what you would expect for 600 miles.

[@advmatt]

I had bits of what looked like sand as well as possible sealant. It was a surprise for sure. Doing second oil change this week. I hope its clean this time.

[@OutWithTheWildThings]

Hey Matt, I noticed you did a “beware: ownership costs video for the BMW.” I’m looking at getting a 390 Adventure and am curious if you expect the cost of the KTM bikes like this to be expensive to service. $50 to do my own oil change isn’t an issue and is working my capability. But I’m wondering if I should expect anything else that I’ll need to take it to the dealer for and if they are expensive to have serviced. Thanks!

[@advmatt]

Valve adjustment is really the only major service I can forsee. Valve adjustments are at 9300 mile intervals. Complete service at 9300 was quoted at $500. Replacement parts will be European expensive but will cost less than bigger more expensive bikes. Overall the bike will be easier to work on yourself. Chain, sprockets and tires will wear at a slower rate from the lower horsepower reducing costs as well. Hope this helps, if I missed something let me know.

[@OutWithTheWildThings]

@@advmatt that’s perfect, thanks!

[@charles87sf39]

Hey ADV Matt. Great video! I was hoping you might be able to confirm something. This bike has the rev "indicator" until after the first service. Does a dealer have to disable this when they perform the first service, or is this something that goes away on its own if we do our own service? Thank you in advance for the information!

[@advmatt]

The rev limiter low limit shift indicator goes away on it's own after 620 miles. You might have to stop the bike, shut it off, and restart it. My went away on it's own and then started using the shift indicators I had programmed.

[@charles87sf39]

@@advmatt awesome! Thank you for the quick response!!

[@crayb89]

Hey Matt, what did you mean shift indicators you had programmed? Like you manually had to program that?

[@advmatt]

@@crayb89 the shift indicators come preprogrammed after the first 620 break in miles. In the settings menu you can configure when the RPM bar flashes at you indicating it's time to shift. There two RPM settings.

[@crayb89]

@@advmatt Okay yeah I noticed that went away as well. What do you have yours set at?

[@LincolnSixAlpha]

Did my 790 Adv first change a few weeks back and the screens looked nothing like that! Very minimal junk floating around in the oil. Kinda surprised as to how much crap was on those screens.

[@advmatt]

I was also really surprised. I would have expected more care in keeping it clean during assembly.

[@Amundsenkalmah]

Any reason on why you didnt took the bike to a KTM dealer? I guess your warranty is lost? Also what kick stand extension/shoe/boot are you using?

[@advmatt]

Here in the United States there are laws that protect buyers and allow us to do our own service without risking the loss of warranty, so the reason I did it myself was to save money and learn how to work on the bike. The kick stand foot will be a video in a week or two.

[@jayjay191]

It's better to do DIY, it cost $300 if take it to the dealership.

[@CalAdkins]

Matt, great videos! I just purchased a 2022 today! What is your opinion on when the first valve check/adjustment should be done? I would mostly like to service the bike myself but avoid that valve adjustment until necessary. What was the results of your first valve check/adjustment? TIA

[@advmatt]

I had my valves checked and adjusted at 8k miles. I was having a stalling issue with the bike that got progressively worse. The shims had to be replaced on two of the valves. They were too tight. The stalling issue went away after that. If you are not having any issues do it around 9.5K. If you start experiencing stalling do it right away.

[@CalAdkins]

@@advmatt Awesome thanks!

[@beomsukim3929]

Very good video Thanks

[@Davidlouis3]

Good video

[@ozemsadventureofrandomstuf252]

Interesting video this one. I wonder how much the service from KTM would cost here in South Africa since you spent the rand equivalent of like R750? In any case, thanks a lot for this it’s good to know if you doing a major trip at least the oil filter change and oil isn’t that very difficult to sort 🤗👌🙏🏾

[@soylocotero]

Hola amigo hice todo lo que dijiste, pero no me deja programar el próximo servicio, sigue apareciendo servicio. No sé si será por qué me pase 50 km del servicio. Solicito tu ayuda para ver cómo puedo quitar el aviso de servicio

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Talked to a couple dealers they all told me they never replace the screens. Unless they are damaged. Which makes sense to me.

[@advmatt]

After the first service I started reusing the screens. I might change them every three or four services.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

@@advmatt yeah I’m kinda feeling the same but with shipping issues right now it’s taking weeks to get anything where I am so I’m just gonna have to clean them and order a bunch to have. Whenever they actually arrive.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

I’ve never seen even close to that amount of material on a first oil change. That’s pretty wild and concerning.

[@tbonegdk2938]

It’s like 3 things what are you talking about

[@dayfa1r]

@@tbonegdk2938 i believe they meant the amount of debris on the filters - not the # of components to replace on the oil change

[@matheusrgomes]

I bet if you cut open the oil filter on non KTM without screens, you'd be just as surprised

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

@@tbonegdk2938 Are you ok ? Get help lol.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

@@matheusrgomes Listen I own this bike now and I have zero complaints. But that is a massive amount of machining material left in the motor. I’ve been changing oil on new bikes for 30 years. That’s all I was saying.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

When you did the service reminder removal does that automatically set the rev red flash to what is standard ? Not the 6300 rpm like break in.

[@advmatt]

No, the lower rev limiter went away on it's own at 620 miles (1k Km). Then two thresholds were available to set where I wanted them. If you are over 620 miles check the menu, I think it is under settings. You can change the RPM flash from there.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

@@advmatt I did see it as an option but I’m not at 620 yet so I was just curious if it went away on its own or if it were part of the service reset. Thanks for the info

[@mabsbry1318]

A magnet will pull the filter out, if that helps.

[@advmatt]

Great idea. I tried it but the magnets I have in the garage were not strong enough.

[@yowser8780]

Tried that. Not much metal to get a hold of in there. Used 2 small screwdrivers to extract filter. On other KTM filters I've been able to get a hold of it with a snap ring pliers.

[@interjoeit]

where is the best place to buy the service kit?

[@advmatt]

I get mine from aomc.mx. The prices seem the same from about every website. The service kits will vary on the oil brands. They usually cost around $60.

[@jesselalonde5209]

If you would of tilted your bike the filter would of came out tips

[@gabbya5107]

good job from k.t.m israel biker ,thanks 👍

[@lonniewrights2591]

Got a question, how long should it take for the triangle with the exclamation mark in to go off. Is that not the service indicator.

[@advmatt]

You have to reset the service reminder manually, but once it is reset the service alert goes away without delay. If you have done that I am not sure what could be keeping the light on.

[@lonniewrights2591]

@@advmatt Well, I guess I will try again.

[@advmatt]

@@lonniewrights2591 when you reset it you can see how many miles are left, if it's not where you set them you might not be saving the updated service reminder properly. I have trouble with this every time.

[@niclynch319]

Do you know if the oil filters and strainers for the adventure are the same as the duke? My dealer seems to be clueless on what all is needed for first service and looking online everything seems to be for the duke.

[@advmatt]

Yes, they are the same for the same years. Sorry for the late reply.

[@StephenJohnson-jb7xe]

To me the oil at 600 miles was very dark, that combined with the amount of debris on the screens and filter makes me wonder if there was any care involved when the engine was assembled.

[@advmatt]

I agree, the debris was disturbing. An engine flush prior to final completion may have been worth doing. I am not sure about the color of the first oil change. It is my understanding the initial break in oil is a special formulation. I am not sure what it looks like going in. The oil was not as dark on the second oil change. It looked to me like it could have gone a little longer.

[@slhesten]

My dealer told me that the initial oil used at 0 to 600 miles is mineral oil (darker in color) then the bike should use synthetic oil (lighter in color) for the rest of its life. Hope this helps.

[@mbracho08]

Great video !!. Where did you get the orange extra plate for the stand ?

[@advmatt]

I got it on Amazon. It is for the 1090/1190/1290. Sorry, I cant leave a link right now. I am on a trip and dont have great access to internet.

[@mbracho08]

ADV Matt Thxs Bro !!!

[@pawelwolski1316]

It's me again, the Indonesian guy. After watching this vid and reading the comments (most owners see same amount of junk), I am bit "concerned" about what I see. The positive, there are two screens and a paper element oil filter. The negative, these screens look like screens from a blown engine. I always open my local engines (the screen is inside the clutch cover) at 500 km or sooner. I am use to seeing little bit of silicone and such, what you show is "catastrophic". You never mention what material was on the screens, some or most of it looks metallic. Do you have any ideas where all this metal is coming from? Still looking at this KTM, but I really like reliable machines first, the performance comes second. Thx again and time to watch more of your vids.

[@advmatt]

It was metal on the screens. After the first service the screens came out clean. Not sure where the filings came from but it was concerning, but after 22500 miles it seems to be ok.

[@aaberamm]

You did your service by own so is still you get warrenty?

[@advmatt]

Yes. Here in the United States laws protect owners by allowing us to do our own service without voiding the warranty.

[@ManojOrbit]

How much oil gets drained everytime. Was there any drop in oil levels?

[@advmatt]

See my previous comments. I have not seen any significant oil consumption.

[@advmatt]

See my previous comments. I have not seen any significant oil consumption.

[@ManojOrbit]

@@advmatt I too own a 2020 model. I lose 100ml every 1000kms. For a drain interval of 5000kms I lose approx 450ml to 600ml. Which is a little alarming.

[@advmatt]

@@ManojOrbit I have not seen that much oil consumption, but I have not been tracking closely. I look in the sight glass periodically and make sure I see oil. Not sure why you are experiencing so much oil usage. How does your spark plug look?

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

What kind of break in did you do ? Manual just says stay under 6k rpm. Which is tough on these bikes of course. But I have no issue doing it. Just curious what you did.

[@advmatt]

Sorry, just saw your comment. I did exactly that, under 6k rpm until the after the first oil change.

[@thomaskurek3524]

Is it true that the 390 adventure when it's brand new till the first oil change has limit on the engine RPM? And that dealer has to turn this off?

[@advmatt]

It does have an RPM limit but you do not have to take it to the dealer. After 620 miles the rev limiter is lifted. I cant remember exactly, but I think I had to shut the bike off and restart after crossing 620 miles before the rev limiter went away. Bottom line, I did not have to go to the dealer.

[@tjanusz3]

does it void the warranty if you do the first 600 mile oil change and service reset

[@advmatt]

Not in the United States. There are laws that keep companies from voiding warranties if service is not completed by the dealerships. You just have to keep all of your receipts and have really good service records.

[@wheretonextaviation]

I'm interested in purchasing a 390. I currently ride a KLX 250s dual sport but would like something a little more comfortable on the road. I can ride 1 hr on pavement to get to ride 2-3 hrs on forest service roads and trails then ride the 1hr back home. I can't hardly sit down anymore after a few hrs of riding. There is also good mountain paved roads to ride near me. Now that you have some miles on the 390 is it comfortable for longer rides? Would it be fun on curvy mountain roads? Would you ride it at highway speeds for more that an hour?

[@advmatt]

I just finished a 1200 mile trip on it. 300 mile days on the ends with lots of offroad. Still editing the video, should post in a few days. I found the bike to be great for everything I did, and it was a lot. The road miles were fine. Twisty roads are a blast. The seat is firm but I like it, coming from hard mountain bike seats. Because the seat is wide at the back it is easier to move around. I think the 390 ADV is a brilliant light weight adventure bike.

[@wheretonextaviation]

@@advmatt Thanks for the info. Looking forward to more videos about the 390.

[@user-Podcast-Canada]

Did you change the seat?

[@advmatt]

I tried several seats. The ergo seat was my favorite. I am now using the bench seat because it is a bit narrower than the ergo seat and a little easier to touch. It feels like the foam is about the same between the ergo seat and the bench seat.

[@user-Podcast-Canada]

@@advmatthope to ride with some day 😇, which state are you from

[@advmatt]

@@user-Podcast-Canada I live in New Mexico. I ride all over to meet other riders and viewers. It would be great to ride together!

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Did you have any issues with stalling ? I only have 9 miles on mine and it already happened once to me. I think it’s the faulty gas line under the tank. They will replace it for free but I will just pay and do it myself rather than have someone else mess with the bike.

[@advmatt]

I did after a few 1000 miles. I took the bike in for the calves adjustment and the ECU reflash. After this service the issue went away. Two of the valves needed new shims because they were too tight. I think the stalling issue is related to valve clearance because the stalling issue was resolved after this service.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

@@advmatt I’ve only had it happen once since I started letting the pump prime twice when starting it for the first time of the day. Saw that tip on a forum and it really seemed to solve it. I think the stall I had after was just a normal stall that just happens some times on bikes. But the others were clearly some issue.

[@AussieAdventurer]

Thanks again for a great detailed review and service instructions. Question: the Torque socket thingy you used, do you have a link for what that is and where I could buy a set like you have please? I am only pretty new to riding, but I do like to have a decent set of quality tools for setting up my new ride 😃 once I actually can get it here in the Philippines 🇵🇭. Thanks again for your help. Cheers Jim 🤠

[@advmatt]

I need to get back to on this. I am moving and will not have great internet access. I should have links for in a week or so. Cheers

[@AussieAdventurer]

@@advmatt that be great mate, thanks 😊

[@jayjay191]

Did the dealership update your KTM 390 adventure software in new version for Free even though you did your first change oil by yourself? What version of software do you have right now in your KTM?

[@advmatt]

Bike is at shop for valve adjustment and free firmware update. I will let you which version it is when I get it back.

[@advmatt]

I just had the firm updated by the dealer, no cost to me, the version I am at is 1V09.

[@jayjay191]

@@advmatt thank 👍 the ktm390 forum in Facebook are talking about v11 on the TFT screen and new version update on ECU. If you don't mind how much did it cost you for valve adjustment. Thanks again 👍

[@jayjay191]

@@advmatt my KTM dealer where I bought my bike don't want to update my TFT to new version unless the dealer do my first change oil that would cost me at least $300.

[@advmatt]

@@jayjay191 valve adjustment cost me $220. The dealership had some issues doing the update, so maybe it was not updated. I need to look into this a bit more.

[@human1513]

I strongly suggest to never go 4,500 miles between oil & filters changes as it is too long of an interval. Even though this like other KTM 4 strokes are a pain to do it on.

[@advmatt]

I like it. You will never damage your engine chaining the oil early.

[@cks8661]

What's the point of the screen? Most Japanese motorcycle doesn't have such screen, I thought everything will be filtered by the oil filter

[@advmatt]

I think it functions as a pre-filter. I believe all KTMs have screen filters. The BMWs I have owned dont have these either.

[@cks8661]

@@advmatt I think this a ktm feature, the purpose is for owner to check if clutch plate has failed or not.

[@advmatt]

Ok, that's good to know. Thanks

[@louvega8414]

Matt, that oil looked pretty black after only 600 miles and those metal fragments on your screens are a bit of a worry. What did they look like next service?

[@advmatt]

Second service the screens were clean and the oil looked like it could have gone another 1000 plus miles.

[@louvega8414]

@@advmatt Cheers Matt. I'd been put off KTM Indian built reliability issues. You seem pretty thorough and obviously happy. Have you ride the VersysX300? If so any thoughts on how the two compare?

[@advmatt]

@@louvega8414 I havent ridden the Versus 300. My first thoughts are the shorter suspension travel of the Versus put me off to it and the extra weight. A lot of riders really like that bike, so it comes down to how you will ride it.

[@hesko125]

I am torn between the 390 and bmw 310. Thoughts? I am 6"4 so worried about that as well

[@advmatt]

At your height both will feel small. With 390 you can get the bench seat which is taller and allows you to sit back further. You can get some bar risers to move the bars up and some new footpegs to drop them 1/2". The bench seat will allow you stretch out the most. As for 310 I am not sure about seating options, there is a higher seat but I dont know about a bench seat. The added power of the 390 and an adjustable suspension makes it much more configurable. The 310 stalls really easy where 390 doesnt. Before I bought the 390 I was also looking at the 310. The power, suspension and electronics on the 390 are better. Of course I am biased. You can get a rally raid kit for the 310 making it a much better bike but at a high cost. Try to ride each one. Hope this helps.

[@hesko125]

@@advmatt thanks

[@advmatt]

@@hesko125 I didnt cover handling because I dont have experience with the 310GS, only the 310R. Same engine didnt chassis.

[@hesko125]

@@advmatt the price gap from the small to medium adventure bikes is nuts. Why is this segment of bike so pricey. Of course its the one I want to get into lol

[@slhesten]

I’m 5,11” and my Ktm 390 feels small even with handlebar risers and lowered foot pegs. The BMW 310 is larger and may be better if you don’t mind a bit less power and other KTM features. Both bikes are good…I think.

[@michaelhazinski4144]

Hey Mattt great video. What foot pegs are you using?

[@advmatt]

Right now the stock ones, just removed the rubber inserts. I am planning to get the SW-Motech Evo pegs once they are available.

[@serlovigil2130]

@@advmatt Thank you for the 390 video series. I also purchased mine from R and S. Just an FYI, Black Dog Cycle Works is testing some nice looking pegs for this machine.

[@advmatt]

I saw that from BDCW. I am also looking at SW Motech because of ability to move position.

[@yoheysmo]

I just completed the first service interval. The two filter screens were contaminated just like your bike. However, I had a disturbing experience. Hardly any oil drained out. Why? I have no idea. First mistake, I trusted the dealer to give me a properly serviced motorcycle. No warning message. No engine low oil light. The bike did take the full 1.7L. Did you have a similar experience? It is not shown in your video. BL. “Trust but verify.”

[@advmatt]

My bike was full of oil. That was not my experience.

[@gpnmoab1]

What windshied is that? I've been looking for a larger one. Is that a direct fit?

[@advmatt]

It is the Givi Sport windshield for the 790, but requires an install bracket, 790 and 390 wind screens seem to be universal, same headlight and GPS tower. I had to order it from Italy, Capri Moto

[@gpnmoab1]

Thank you!

[@jkpinpdx]

I heard the KTM 1290 windshield is a straight bolt on👍🏽

[@ndrejs]

DID YOU FART ON 6:26?

[@advmatt]

Sure sounded like it. I am kneeling on a foam mat and my shoes make funny sounds when I move around. That's my story and I am sticking to it.

[@CallsItLikeISeizeIts]

What kickstand foot thingy are you using?

[@advmatt]

Something I found on Amazon for the other adventure bikes. Anything for a 790 should fit.

[@crayb89]

Great video, I’m really considering doing this myself for my second oil change! Had my first service done at a dealership but cost way too much! I’ve read the manual but in case I overlook something, would there be anything else that I should do for the second service on the bike? I do 99% street riding FYI. Thanks for all your help in advance! Love the videos on the 390!

[@advmatt]

Oil, filter, clean screens, and replace air filter. I recommend cleaning the air box too, mine was not as clean as could have been from the factory. Check chain tension. The original chains are not lasting long. If you still have the original skid plate it is a lot bolts to take out, but it's not complicated. You can do it no problem.

[@crayb89]

@@advmatt You’re awesome! Thanks for the quick reply! Really appreciate it! I will definitely be sure to do all the above! I did notice my chain seemed a little loose but the guys at the dealership said it was fine. I’m watching all your videos on the 390 and the chain one is on the list!

[@crayb89]

@@advmatt Hey again, so I was researching oil change kits and hardly anything comes up for the adventure… is the 390 Duke kit compatible??

[@advmatt]

@@crayb89 yes, Duke 390 kit is compatible. Look for 2018 and newer, if my memory serves me.

[@bloodswettears234]

That was metal shavings on that screen!!

[@advmatt]

It was.

[@bloodswettears234]

@@advmatt did you have it from new then?

[@advmatt]

@@bloodswettears234 yes, from new. On subsequent oil changes the filters came relatively clean. The second oil change had one small piece of gunk. Since then the filters have clear.

[@bloodswettears234]

@@advmatt i see just run in swarf then I suppose.

[@allentig]

I have some training in automotive machine shop, rebuilding and doing machine work. I changed my oil at 110 miles because I always do that with a fresh engine. It too had lots of debris in the filters. If this much debris came out of a new automotive engine, I would be freaking out and immediately doing a rebuild, because that debris is like sandpaper on bearings. I can't believe this is an acceptable amount of debris from a new engine of any kind. KTM has a serious issue here. On top of that, to be in bed with the oil manufacturer and get this kind of results, is disgusting. Then add the fact that they recommend the semi-synthetic just blows my mind. I understand the relationship between the wet clutch and the semi-synthetic oil, but they make the full synthetic now that meets all the specs and is good for the wet clutch. Then just to make things even a little more disturbing, my new OEM oil filter came with debris already on it from the box. I'm using my engine knowledge to do a much better job of lubrication and maintenance than KTM or their dealers ever thought of. Good video man! I'm glad I'm not the only one that experienced this, cause I was starting to feel like I was the only one. I basically got ridiculed for sharing this in the FB group. You make the best videos for this bike, THANKS

[@advmatt]

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I agree with you. I use fully synthetic. It hasn't made sense to me why to use a blend. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@allentig]

@@advmatt my dealer rattled off something about the clutch slipping and foam from full syn. I'm an Amsoil user. I think maybe it took a while for Amsoil to make a clutch friendly oil with the specifications that matched. I'm using what Amsoil calls 15w50 Metric oil that has the MA2 JASO specs. I'm super anxious to see when I drain it, if it had the same amount of debris

[@advmatt]

@@allentig my second oil change was clean.

[@dcc-c6c]

first service in Australia cost 400 usd

[@advmatt]

Ouch, that's seems high.

[@damiank2568]

My 790 Adventure service in Australia was under $300AUD

[@dcc-c6c]

@@damiank2568 which state though, always more expensive in Nsw and Vic

[@damiank2568]

@@dcc-c6c Melborne

[@dcc-c6c]

@@damiank2568 i quoted with Peter Stevens the 1000km service for 390 adv cost $460

[@virgilpalmer2427]

I'd be worried..

[@advmatt]

I was, but three oil changes and 15k miles later everything seems fine. The screens have been clean ever since. It was shocking.

[@danielfl.9347]

The first 600 miles you need to drive it like a baby, otherwise you will get a lot of wear. When its broken in you can drive like you stole it

[@advmatt]

Good point, keep RPMs below 6500 for the first 600. I still slowly introduced higher RPMs to the 1000 mile mark. Now I rip it.

[@Mikaeel84]

Gosh and to think everybody made this seem like such an inconvenience.

[@advmatt]

It's super easy. I use my own video all the time to reser the service reminder.

[@markanthony6128]

Gee wiz was the bike eating m&ms

[@advmatt]

Sure seemed like it.

[@Sunrazor]

Ok you just saved me from buying one of these bikes. The screen looks horrible. All that debris. Have had Yamaha before and I have never ever seen that. It's a no go for me.

[@advmatt]

The second service the screens came out clean.

[@hazcat640]

That looks like a real pain in the butt.

[@advmatt]

Once you do it once it is really not that bad. With the Black Dog Cycle Works skid plate it is much faster.

[@mikeschlup5279]

Pretty nasty for 600 miles....

[@joelruiz6137]

I wonder why do I pay $73 at my local ktm dealer. Friggin thieves

[@advmatt]

Labor rates, although just buying oil and filter for me costs $50.

[@joelruiz6137]

@@advmatt like I said for me just buying the kit without labor rate $73

[@advmatt]

@@joelruiz6137 oh, ok. You can get the kits online for less.

[@joelruiz6137]

@@advmatt I’m definitely getting them online from now on because that’s crazy

[@trailrider1980]

Can you email me that list?

[@trehanero]

Carbage