Aegon's Invasion

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[@acdarc]

Just found you through YT suggestions and I have to say I'm amazed by your in-depth analysis and an extremely captivating way to narrate through the lore and explain it so clearly. I never thought that after all these years I could find myself digging so eagerly through the world of Tolkien with your videos. Amazing! Cheers from Finland!

[@AlexBB77]

How amazing to get to see the IDG hood / cowl again , really brings me back. Great job on reaching 300k Subscribers , it is no small feat , very rare territory for this platform and even more so for the subject matter. Excellent work , look forward to seeing more growth and success from this channel that will surely continue.

[@kaelahoran214]

Do you think we will ever get a show about the conquest?

[@kaelahoran214]

And off topic but after GRRM completes all the planned books winds, dream of spring, fire and blood 2, and dunk and egg sequels will that be the end or can we hope for more?

[@kaelahoran214]

Congrats Robert!!! Looking forward to the next 3000!!

[@AlexBB77]

@@kaelahoran214 I hope we do with the Conquest , there are some mysteries there and would be very interesting to see the realm not unified in the state it was in at that time and how that structure functioned / seeing it in action. If it were me i would have started with the Conquest. Especially those non-book fans I don't think they will have the proper context starting with the Dance of the Dragons and why not start at the origins of the House in Westeros with Aegon I. I hope eventually we do get a Conquest series , even if it should have come first imo. As far as the books , i hope we just get the books in the universe he plans to write at this point. TWoW has still not come out , ADoS should be an easier more straight forward write but that will still be another giant book. F&B part 2 has a lot to cover , and a planned nine more D&E. I think we will be lucky to get all that given he has so many other projects be it on the page or on the screen. I honestly think we will be lucky to get all those books in the ASOIAF universe on the schedule, given his age , his health (does not seem the best) and that he is a very slow writer. Plus he spreads himself so thin with so many projects , believe he is working on a video game that comes out early in 2022 , look at how many TV series are planned or in the works in this or his other universes. I have my doubts though i do hope we will get all the planned books in the ASOIAF universe but at the moment I can not see us getting any thing beyond those works.

[@origGooglieWooglie]

Congratulations on 300K and thanks for being the (cloaked!) figurehead of this incredible community. Cheers!

[@AndrewK23777]

Congrats again Robert on 300k Subscribers , take the time to savor and enjoy , as this is quite the accomplishment. Reaching such a milestone is a testament to all your hard work along with continually producing so much excellent , engaging and thought provoking content for us all. Ntm the fun , inclusive and welcoming community you have created on this channel in the process. All the best with your success on this and your other channels and all your other endeavors Robert. Here's to the next 300k Subscribers , some Dornish Red 🍷and a treat for Dan.

[@InDeepGeek]

Thank you, Andrew. I hugely appreciate it, and all your amazing support.

[@AndrewK23777]

@@InDeepGeek all the best , very happy to do my part , it is an honor to do so and thoroughly enjoy being a part of this IDG community. Onwards and upwards , all your success is certainly well deserved from all your hard work and everything you do for / on the channel. Very well done Ser. And what a bonus to see the IDG cowl again , def takes me back to the time I discovered the channel.

[@edpistemic]

Congratulations on 300k, Robert! You've given so many people so many hours of entertainment and insight on this fascinating series. Great to see the cowl again and a shout-out to the nicest chat and best mod team on KZbin :)

[@eviesholette]

I'm super duper sick today and binging your old lives is immensely improving my day!

[@Flara555]

congratulations Robert! well deserved. nice to see the cowl 💕

[@juliemoreauquilliou8544]

such a touching moment for you Robert. You are the best with Radio westeros and History of Westeros, imha. you blow my mind !

[@tumbleheart4664]

I'm very proud of you Robert, and to the community as a whole. Can't wait to see what you do when you hit a million.

[@CJAmara]

Congratulations on 300k subscribers. You deserve it and many more. Discovering your channel has been a pleasure and your videos have meant a lot to me through this whole Covid-19 situation. Cheers to 300k and I know that one days we'll be celebrating you reaching 1million. Once again, congratulations and keep up the fantastic work - you're bringing a lot of joy to a lot of people.

[@johnnyjay6959]

Loved the old school hood. Haven’t seen it in a minute lol. New camera and now background screen. Good shit brother.

[@daemoniiiblackfyre5296]

a man of his word lol youre awesome Robert thank you for everything

[@elegantbird8240]

Congrats on 300K!!!! I love seeing your growth! YOu don't need a cloak or a costum. Just keep making these AMAZING videos. THANK YOU

[@The_Red_Woman]

Loved hearing Robert’s origin story. His respect for the viewer is what draws everyone in. Congrats on a big milestone.

[@nimrodgrrrl]

I’m so late but THE CLOAK/COWL/HOOD!!! WOOO! Congrats on 300k Robert! 🤠

[@InDeepGeek]

#nevertoolate Thank you :D

[@thebrotherskrynn]

Congrats once again on hitting 300k, Robert, you truly deserve it after all your hard-work. And as a fan of fantasy, and writer in the genre, thanks so much for your contributions to Fantasy fiction. You've helped keep it alive, and are amongst the most charming youtubers, with you and Yoystan and the rest of the Tolkientubers all inspirations.

[@Jake-hw9kp]

Congrats on the 300k Robert, it’s great to see how much this channels grown. I can only see things going from strength to strength, with all the up and coming series there’s going to be so much stuff to cover. Hyped for the trailer too, looked really good!

[@Djynni]

"Sulfurious" - might not be an actual word, but I like it!

[@timothyw854]

There was a 4th Valyrian family in Westeros during the conquest: House Qoherys, first lords of Harrenhall Congrats on 300k!!!

[@playzoofun8591]

I love this channel and everything that's discussed here, and I can't tell you how many times the content here has kept me company on long drives or even when working around the house. Well done!

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

I think Robert is missing a point about Carthage. It's not so much that they were sailors and traders Carthage was a big culture around the time Rome was first growing, and they came into conflict. Despite some initial victories Cathage lost and their capital was utterly destroyed and left in ruins, with the people becoming slaves or refugees. That is the main comparison with the Roynar. They came into conflict with the growing Valyrians, had some victories but ultimately lost, their capital was left in ruins, and the people became slaves or refugees.

[@sophiawilson8696]

I believe that Ghis was version of Carthage. Ghis went to war with Valyria 5 times.

[@elahefarahani511]

I swear this man is the kindest human on the earth!

[@markdaniel5784]

Seeing that cowl made my entire week. Thank you for all you have given your fan IDG!! 300k!

[@liverdave1977]

Another great video as always Robert 😎👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamiemckenna2254]

Dude!!! You WORE IT!!! Man, I cannot BELIEVE i missed this!! Thank you for honouring your pledge, CONGRATS on 300K, mate!! EPIC!! 🥂

[@comradeconrad3636]

Congrates Robert on 300k... and congrates again on another 13k since last month. Cheers comrade.

[@carlrood4457]

Another reason for Baratheon era maesters to go "easier" on Aegon is that he's the reason there's one king. If they painted all Targaryeans with the same brush then Robert wouldn't have had much argument why HE should be king over all rather than Westeros be divided.

[@JervisGermane]

27:55 I've wondered for a long time if this was going to be significant to the plot at any point. They've been called the Seven Kingdoms for a long time, but at the point of the invasion, there were really 9. You can make a case for 7 in that two were combined at the time and you can say that Aegon wasn't styled a king on Dragonstone, but for all practical purposes they were 9 independent kingdoms, not 7.

[@herbthompson8937]

How in the hell do you get 9? There were 7, he conquered 6

[@JervisGermane]

@@herbthompson8937 You can quibble over the Targaryen holdings and Dorne, because the lords paramount there didn't use the title King, but prior to the conquest there were 9 realms where there was a sovereign lord that didn't owe fealty to anyone above them: The North, the Vale, the Riverlands, the Iron Islands (which you can also quibble about because they were temporarily both ruled by the same king), the Westerlands, the Reach, the Stormlands, Dragonstone and its vassals, and Dorne. That's 9 independent kingdoms, of which 7 used the title King. Dorne was ruled by a Princess and Aegon's pre-conquest title was Lord, but it's still 9 different political states.

[@herbthompson8937]

@JervisGermane a different political state doesn't equate a kingdom. Dragonstone was not a kingdom. The Riverland were ruled for 2 or 3 generations by the Iron Islands, it wasn't a temporary thing. There were 7 kingdoms when he came to conquer

[@JervisGermane]

@@herbthompson8937 Okay. I'm not saying you're wrong to define it that way, but Westeros was referred to as the Seven Kingdoms even before the conquest. There were 9 independent states for quite a while before that, and if you look at any of the great houses and lords paramount, there will be 9 families to list, but it was still referred to as Seven Kingdoms. I think they even called it that in the days of the petty kings when there were really hundreds of small kingdoms in Westeros. You have to define a kingdom a certain way or prune something down for some reason to get it to 7. You could argue that the Iron Islands and Dragonstone are the 2 that don't count because they're not part of mainland Westeros, or that Dragonstone and Dorne are the 2 that don't count because their rulers weren't called kings. You're arguing that the Riverlands and Dragonstone are the two that don't count because Aegon already had control of Dragonstone and the Riverlands weren't independent on the day in question. All of those work to make it fit, but why does it need to be made to fit at all? The point of my original comment is that we see a ton of this kind of thing in the books, where details have to be tailored to fit a narrative or serve some kind of symbolic purpose. The Dance of the Dragons is called that even though the intro to The Princess and the Queen says the Maesters consider it an inappropriate name. The War of the Five Kings is called that even though people argue *within the story* that there were no more than four kings in existence at any one time. I wonder if there's going to be something else that's going by a popular but technically inaccurate name in a way that's going to be plot-relevant, such as a power structure with more than 3 leaders still being referred to as a dragon with 3 heads. We see people in the story deny facts in the name of preserving the story they're familiar with, waving away objections with statements like "It is known." We see that in real life too. If George is commenting on that, I have a hunch we're going to see something affect the plot that we won't see coming because it doesn't fit the branding that characters and readers alike like to stick to.

[@lavar_ball7436]

I feel like the first prequel should have been Aegon's Conquest, and even better, adding old Valyria too. First season could be like an origin and back and forth of the original Targs Aegon planning his conquest. Episode 9 being the Doom followed with a Season Finale of Aegon setting for Aegonfort from Dragonstone. Both storylines, because we only have so little material, could have played together for 1 solid buildup of a season. 2nd-3rd Seasons, just like GoT, would be the ensuing conquests/battles made by Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visneya. Great and easy way to stretch the material as well world-building for the fans. Dorne, Harrenhal, the Eyrie, and Storm's End could all be fleshed out into greater detail. Last couple seasons finish up their reign and ending with Maegor the Cruel... setting the stone for more Targaryen legacies and madness. Then you hit us with Dance, Rebellions, etc... Idk. I just feel like if they go back further from Dance for the next one, it'll feel odd. You can't prequel a prequel...

[@Djynni]

Regarding sources of dragon glass (obsidian), I wonder if there is a source near Winterfell. The heat vents under Winterfell should be volcanic (unless GRRM decides otherwise).

[@mrjuderaw87]

You do be taking those glasses off a lot tho haha

[@shonachilds6559]

300K subs woohoo! Got a shock when the video started then remembered! It came off a bit too quickly though...😋

[@kaelahoran214]

As someone who loves animals fantasy animals included I was always worried the direwolves and dragons would be hurt alongside of my fav characters of course. I understand this is fantasy and it is not real but when reading the dance i was upset to read about how these amazing dragons killed and tore each other apart. When I read the dance I am sad maybe because I know this will be the end of the dragons but the senseless brutality makes it very hard for me to read.

[@bolfumexicomexico]

You are my favorite person on the internet!!!!🧐

[@kelleycleveland4692]

Congrats on 300k🥳

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

Robert’s House Words: Possibly 😂😂😂😂😂

[@louiscassis3426]

It’s interesting to look back at this episode after the reveal of Aegon’s prophecy and how that changes the motivation for conquest.

[@lts_Bubba]

Congratulations on 300k!!

[@ruigerd]

Watch out for cloaked one, he might just sue you! Congrats on 300k though Robert, your content and especially livestreams really brighten my week. Thank you for all that you do

[@iamsecond411]

I understand the rumors about Aegons heirs not being legitimately his. But I also feel that prior to the births of his son the three Targaryens didn’t have time to worry about children. Not to mention the stress war puts on the body which can effect a woman’s ability to get pregnant and maintain a pregnancy. I’ve just always thought once the conquest was over, that’s when they had the time, desire/need, and free time to work on producing heirs.

[@sophiawilson8696]

Which Aegon? The first or second?. To tell you truth I think Aegon I knew that his favourite sister wife. Were cheating on him. He knew he problem with producing children.

[@comradeconrad3636]

I think since Dany parallels Aegon so well.. like almost perfectly.. thats enough proof for me that at lease Meagor was his since that's the line she comes from.. just how GRRM writes you know? I think that's his way of leaving a clue for us.

[@brimpyshpingle]

Hey Robert, big fan of your videos. Something I noticed is that you've mentioned a couple times that Harwin Strong, the probable father of Rhaenyra's first 3 children, was a member of the Kingsguard. Unless I am in fact mistaken, he was NOT a member of the Kingsguard. An elite warrior, no doubt, but not a member of the Kingsguard. Also congrats on 300k, and I look forward to more of your videos!

[@signeaarejrgensen61]

Amazing. I'm watching this in my very comfy IDG hoodie👍😃

[@eleonoramercogliano4381]

Congratulations Robert on this wonderful achievement. 300000 subscribers, it seems like yesterday that we were congratulating you on reaching 50000. This is a true testament of your hard work and dedication. Well done.👍🥂🍾

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

My ancestor Aegon should have a show📺 that would be quite a show📺 💥💥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥💥💥

[@sophiawilson8696]

I rather watch the Raise the Valyria!.

[@landofalwayswinter666]

Excellent topic and content. Unfortunately a lot of audio issues again. It sounds like there is a gate on the microphone - when your voice drops down low, it cuts out completely.

[@roddammit5510]

Love ya brother IDG. He honours his promises.

[@marjoe32]

I saw 3 hours and knew my day would be fine

[@justinrogers1807]

Love your Content Robert congrats

[@kellychase2937]

Robin Hobb’s series. I thought GRRM was the master until I read Robin Hobb. She introduces Old Wisdom (for lack of a better phrase), and practical lessons that you would feel silly for not knowing beforehand, and her series is goddamned tragic. It’s fantasy that makes you look at reality a bit different. I am a big fan of you and I hope you at least read her. You’ll have the time of your life.

[@bradlyrose]

Carthage is a beautiful tragic tale. Paul Cooper and CO would love to tell you the tale. Fall of Civilizations.

[@svprememe]

Maura Lee is like IDG's guardian angel

[@omgjimmyboy]

Congrats, man has it really been 5 years already? Where does the time go..

[@isabeltorlan337]

A friendly geek 💕

[@stephencampbell7603]

did Aegon have a sister her loved/cared for more? Would he have gone as mad if Visenya died instead of Rhaenys? Love your content.

[@Sophie-vq1xw]

It’s suggested that Aegon preferred Rhaenys to Visenya. His marriage to Visenya appeared to be one of duty rather than one of love

[@comradeconrad3636]

@@Sophie-vq1xw while I 100 percent agree with everything you said. I still think he would rage for her if she died. I like to think the reason he called off the invasion of Dorne is because he couldn't bare loosing both. The fact he didn't get the whole "fuck it what more could I loose" additude with 2 dragons and 6 kingdoms behind him but walked away defeated instead... I just can't think of a reason other then loosing both to why he would do that. Weather for love or just the honor of his house.. maybe just because he didn't want to loose another dragon rider.. who knows

[@Sophie-vq1xw]

@@comradeconrad3636 oh fr! I don’t doubt he would rage for Visenya as well. Targaryen emotionality can get a little.. blurred. to say the least. When you’re intermarrying with you family and closest allies, what facet of that relationship directly translates to romantic love, to family love, or to a taciturn protection of one’s legacy? I imagine the complexities of it would be frustrating to transcribe in the history books, particularly when Aegon himself was well known as an enigmatic man.

[@comradeconrad3636]

@@Sophie-vq1xw That might be the best answer I've ever read lol. Perfectly said. In the end it doesn't really change the fact that his feelings for the 2 were probably different. Love and duty.

[@abalogan]

I can't believe I missed it live...

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

I stopped this stream in the middle to listen to the video Robert put out today January 26, 2024 about how Aegon invaded Westeros precisely because he had a prophetic dream about something coming from The North on the winds of darkness and winter to destroy all humanity and the only way to survive is to have a Targaryen sitting the Iron Throne.

[@ResilienceQd]

Hi, Robert, will you be covering Wheel of Time too?

[@liamadair4210]

hi, i have a query about "the Defiler" from the hobbit, exactly what did he do to earn that name?

[@taom4itu]

Do you plan to make Wheel of Time videos, since we have an Amazon TV series coming up in November ?

[@FlotFyr13]

I love your new setup and your vidoes. You have a real talent for telling stories. However with your new sound setup you have to stop going so much up and down in volume because when you speak at low volume it’s almost impossible to hear what you are saying. Might be due to the mic autoadjusting when you speak louder and therefor can’t pick up the lower volume stuff. Or maybe just mic positioning. But anyways keep trucking! You’re doing amazing stuff!

[@bobbobson661]

capuchon ! French for cloak thing

[@kaelahoran214]

Do you think the Targs knew this would be it for their dragons and they the dragons and the Targs would not recover ? or did they think they would be able to hatch more dragons and it would not be an issue. If it were me and maybe it was already to complicated by then but I think I would like to have made peace and swallow my pride to guarantee the survival of my family and what made them special.

[@joeyshelton5336]

Fire and Blood Kaela, Fire and Blood

[@kaelahoran214]

@@joeyshelton5336 maybe their credo should be future and consequences, 😂 Although not as catchy. Alas you are right damn my moderne sensibilities

[@whereswilliam488]

So do you think first men genes are dominant?

[@jacksavadge4210]

Obsidian from the valley of the thin

[@w_5492]

Oh my god it's what he used to wear in the old profile pic!

[@johnpotts8308]

# Don’t blame Doran at Sunspear, Don’t blame it on the Long Night, Don’t blame it on the One Eye, Blame it on Blood Raven! # ...the motto for (most) IDG theorising

[@maegliinvalantor6441]

He meant a 3rd to solve the NEW iinvasion

[@samuelleask1132]

the cloak is back BOIZ

[@poprey300]

I love what you do and hate to criticise but you really should sort out your mic position. As the volume of your voice rises and falls there is huge amount of audio loss. And sometimes it is almost impossible to hear what you are saying.

[@trevvors3839]

Woooooo

[@Kippiddy]

Glad the intro was so long gave me time to finish what i was doing and change videos

[@padraigbeer3777]

The hood 😆

[@pratts2041]

Fix your mic, Bobby! ;)

[@chenderhan]

Just a random thought. But how bout Aegon was just batshit crazy bc he was inbred.

[@melmothmelmoth]

Will the hood come back for 600k? haha

[@SHARKVADERS]

IDG!!!

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[@freedomgaming9987]

Cowl.