Aerith or Tifa? | The hardest choice to make in Final Fantasy 7

[@The_Mammal_Man]

For those that are having a hard time accepting what was talked about in the video above... (assuming you watched everything) Don't worry about it! Sometimes these things just take time... Also here's the link for the videos about Cloud and Zack that were at the end: Cloud's video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3TIea2YrNyNY80 Zack's video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4usl5l9gb19gbc

[@ravoniesravenshir3926]

Tifa DUHHH childhood friend, lovely figure, basically always there for him, she would literally die for him if she could. The only reason he has any connection to Aerith is because of Zack, and fate saying HI. Though if there is a option for both... why not?

[@orome9793]

@@ravoniesravenshir3926 Tifa is basically your anime trope of the hottie girl next door that is hopelessly in love with MC, has no personality or identity to call her own (independent from MC), but that's okay because she has big boobs. Boring. When I was a teenager I was in love with Tifa too. The way her character is written frustrates me now. I don't buy the whole "a promise you made to a friend when you were 12 years old means you are destined to be together forever and ever" BS. People grow apart all the time. And having a shared childhood trauma doesn't mean you're destined to be in a healthy relationship. She tried to convince Cloud to leave Aerith with Shinra, then tuns around the very next scene and cries at Cloud about all the terrible things Shinera has done to her. Contrast that to Aeirth that insisted on Cloud saving Tifa from Corneo before she even met her. She's supposidly this badass fighter that can "take care of herself" yet is constantly turning into the damsel in distress anytime Cloud is around. She's more enabling with Cloud than anything else. As for the the whole "Aerith belongs to Zack forever and ever because he built her a couple flower carts" argument. Well that's a whole other topic that I could talk on at length, but I'll keep it short. OG and Remake especially make it clear she has feelings for Cloud and not just because he reminds her of Zack. Some of it isn't conveyed the same in the English version. Nojima even stated in his novel that Cloud was Aerith's friend and lover. All that being said, this isn't about who is right for who, I just find pretty much all the other characters to be more interesting and compelling than Tifa.

[@cloudy4lockharty]

All I can take from these comments and videos is that is really is just...subjective opinions lol I can loudly say I'm Cloti and I don't see any romantic feelings for Cloud/Aerith in Rebirth, if anything I felt bad for Aerith. She is constantly wanting a date or having fun with Cloud, and Cloud constantly shoots her down. In only one sidequest you have the option to be cute with Aerith, but again the option. In canon sidequest with Aerith, Cloud is strict and not accepting of her viewpoints. But then I remind myself...I'm biased and thats okay. Cloud and Aerith feels absent till the end, before then we get tension from Tifa and Cloud, understanding, then confusion, rage, and forgiveness. Cloud and Tifa went through the wringer here and again I loved it. I see Cloud and Tifa and there is an acceptance, a give and take. She can freely joke with him and I feel he accepts her friendly banter. I really can't divide it, so I put it to me being biased and I'm perfectly fine with that. Aerith is awesome, Cloud and Aerith are close, I felt 0 romantic tension with them, more of...a desire to live and know each other, but not love. And that people who see the romance, its for them, not me. For me Aerith at the end wants to have a world...a lie with Cloud, but that isn't natural to Cloud and it is forced from Aerith. It is sad to see both of them wanting to indulge in the lie, and it makes me excited for what it ends to. Either way I love Cloti, but above all I love ship culture so all ships are fine :3

[@The_Mammal_Man]

I appreciate you sharing your point on this topic without belittling or insulting any of the characters.

[@Mukation]

I love Cloud and Tifas relationship, two idiots who both fell for eachother as kids yet neither ever dared to confess to eachother before Cloud left and he was still dumb enough to not reveal himself when he was sent to Nibelheim, despite Tifa litterally asking Zack about a blonde guy. And Zack realising Cloud knows her, as he instantly tells him she safe after he got knocked out trying to save her..... It's never stated but i wonder if Zack sort figured out that she was most likley asking about Cloud? But like, beyond that..... Aerith is my favorite character. And her and Tifas BFF relationship was the highlight of the remakes for me. Like them making fun of Cloud in the sewers, saying he'll can carry all their stuff when they shopping was hillarious.

[@cloudy4lockharty]

@@YTwcher Yeah I'm a fan lol idk no way to really prove it other than I consume and love everything ff7. Even DoC and AC. But its all good to disagree with a ship, thats separate from game lol and I'm more of a fan of Cloud. I like Tifa cuz Cloud does. Just like Aerith, I like Aerith cuz Cloud does lol

[@cloudy4lockharty]

@@YTwcher huh? I never said that. Cloud stays in character in being somewhat dismissive to romantic advances that appear. I can quote Cloud himself. That does not discredit Cloud adores Aerith and enjoys her company to hang out. Unless you mean the final date? Even Aerith knows its somber/unsettling/weird. But they are both friends and soulmates about to encounter a terrible fate. Maybe I'm biased on some small stuff, but I adore Aerith. Cloud and their relationship. I just don't see romance is all. But I never said their scenes are badly made, they are in character and they have awesome scenes. Like that final scene with Aerith pushing Cloud was the most epic memorable moment and heart wrenching. It was done so well.

[@cloudy4lockharty]

@@YTwcher i never said that. Ch 14 is important. Not just for Cloud and Aerith but Zack and Sephiroth as well. Quoting Cloud from AC "There isn't anything that isn't important ". Not being romantic to me, who is biased, does not mean it isn't important. But I can see you're mad at me and anything I say you will equal it to me hating Aerith and put words in my mouth. So I'm done lol enjoy the series and enjoy Clerith.

[@eepysneepy]

I think cloud and aerith have better chemistry… I like tifa, but cloud is too devastated by the loss of aerith to treat tifa well in the end

[@katyadade1041]

Cloud and Tifa are implied to spend a night together at the end of the game. She was his first crush and he really wanted to impress her when they were kids. And she was the one to glue his psyche back together. But I agree that Cloud and Aerith have better chemistry. Tifa is very timid despite her bold looks, and Aerith is quite mischievous and cheeky despite her humble looks. This creates a “I will show this bottled-up boy the beauty of life” trope quite well. I think it’s just not the best writing, because Cloud and Tifa moments and their story in Advent Children don’t look like the love story for the ages. The impact of Aerith’s death is too huge to make it work with Tifa afterwards.

[@ravoniesravenshir3926]

Thats because he has a bit of Zack in him.

[@BLEACHno1fanKH]

So many seem to bypass his guilt for losing Zack as well as Aerith lol. He leaves behind his 'family' because he is afraid of losing them. But at the end of AC Cloud acknowledges himself that he is not alone, not anymore

[@eepysneepy]

@@ravoniesravenshir3926 I think it’s been well established that the only thing cloud got from Zack is a false soldier persona….

[@NordicWiseguy]

​​@@katyadade1041Tifa is Cloud's first crush. Aerith is Cloud's true love.

[@Omnicloudx13]

You did a good job with the video, how your words would match the different clips was fantastic.

[@The_Mammal_Man]

Thank you 🙏! I do put a lot of work into trying to convey my points and message the best way possible. It means a lot that someone noticed that

[@gustogusto4519]

Considering all of the 'Zackness' that Cloud has within him, it's of little wonder why he is drawn to Aerith and has a tenderness for her. His heart, the true heart of Cloud the person, has always belonged to Tifa.

[@Mukation]

You go for whoever, but Cloud goes for Tifa. Aerith is only ever described as his best friend and Tifa is the one he confesses his feelings for. That's what every single ultimania state. Aerith being presented as the obvious love interes in the first portion of the game is simply because it made her sudden and brutal death that much more shocking for the audience. Like, the player is free to pick dialouge choices that hint at Cloud being interested in her, but still never, regardless of choice do The seal the deal or Cloud confessing his feelings for her. And regardless of player choice, Cloud will still confess his deep secret feelings for Tifa in the Lifestream. Remake and Rebirth follows that path aswell = On neither the GS date nor the dream date will Cloud act on Aeriths confession and desire and confess he feels the same. On the GS date he'll only hold her hand and on the dream date he won't answer. This allows you, the player, to infer if he has romantic feelings for her or not. That's up to you. But he is still going to confess his feelings for Tifa in the Lifestream.

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

The ultimania is contradictory garbage. Want something that really suggests who Cloud picks? In Remake, the Aerith dream sequence is 'Cloud's resolution'. Tifa's is 'Tifa's' and Barret's is 'Barrets'. Odd huh?

[@Mukation]

@@Silverfish-qv8ig The Ultimanias are not contradictory, the entire point is that the narrative pushes her as a love interest only to later reveal that she saw Zack in him and when she confesses feelings for him he deflects, twice. And after she died, the reveal that he loved Tifa all along is shown. If you can't comprehend why the devs put Zack in the remakes and makes Tifa the only one he kisses then you're delusional.

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Do you really not understand the concept of player choice and different stories? All these romances are optional. Devs have already confirmed that the dates were fanservice. Yes, he kisses Tifa, but the fanbase for Tifa is bigger in the US where that shit matters more. In Japan, holding hands is very important, as is subtlety, which made the Aerith date equally enchanting. If Tifa was truly Canon, why on earth would the Highwind scene be optional?

[@Mukation]

@@Silverfish-qv8ig It's players choice for certain scenes, not players choice for what Cloud does in those scenes. Now if it was players choice? Why does Cloud and Aerith not hug in Remake? And why does Cloud and Aerith not kiss on their GS date? Why does Cloud and Tifa nearly kiss in Gongaga and why is Aeriths dream date skipable if you skip Zacks story in Rebirth? You're inventing reasons for your delusion of Aerith and Cloud being a thing. They're not.

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Dude, I'm going to leave it there because you are genuinely misguided and so blinkered you can't see any other view but yours. The devs have time and time again said there is no Canon. Cloti and Clerith both have perfectly valid reasons for existence - Tifa is not Canon, just as Aerith is not. It's players choice, always has been and always will be. For everything you think I'm ignoring, you are ignoring elements too, such as the songs, which are between Aerith and Cloud - everyone knows this deep down, including Uematsu and Loren. FF7 has constantly and I mean constantly pinged between each fan base keeping them serviced. Case in point, Advent Children, where they could have made Cloud happy with Tifa, rather than living in Aerith's Church. Don't be duped by their shenanigans.

[@brucey5585]

Why are people choosing anyway? The first part of the game is aerith arc story. You go with aerith. The second part is tifa arc, you go with tifa. 😅

[@gibbs615]

I agree with you! It's really TIFA who was always meant for Cloud ever since their childhood. Besides Aerith may finally be seeing Zack again soon enough in FF7 Rebirth.

[@The_Mammal_Man]

Man, I can't wait to see their reunion... Since this will be the 1st time that we will see their interaction, that is not from Crisis Core

[@gibbs615]

@@The_Mammal_Man Right on! I really hope it comes to that.

[@nubbylittlecat1753]

I’m sooo excited just to see him and Aerith even if they don’t end up talking to each other or having much scenes.

[@christiehamilton5785]

After finishing Rebirth, it is so obviously a love story between Cloud and Aerith. But I always felt that way since OG. It what makes the story tragic and now yet to be known.

[@DutchDread]

My god, some peoples story comprehension just died at birth it seems.

[@dracarys683]

@@DutchDreadhow so? Aerith wrote a love song to Cloud… promised Cloud that they would reunite? Intertwined fingers with him at the end of the game?

[@adyarrobbani9322]

​@@DutchDreadyeah, CT for example lmao 😂

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Completely agree! A beautiful and hauntingly melancholy story. I always felt both happy and sad for Clotis - happy that they could believe that Cloud walks off into the sunset with Tifa, but sad they wouldn't feel the impact like us Aerith fans. Then of course, Advent Children ruined it for everyone, but that's for another day...

[@youngman.6495]

I'd take Tifa.

[@ジョン-z2e]

I see you're a man of culture.

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Bewbs

[@Mr.Gongaga]

I couldn't agree more! Both, for the points that were made and also for obvious reasons...

[@lunad.05-10]

No debate at all,,,we all need is to understand each characters 😊 But my vote is for TIFA ❤ 7 years after they meet at sector 7 and now living in 7th Heaven FF7 C❤T

[@jaywong3396]

People who sympathize with Tifa will choose Tifa. But people who understand and sympathize with Cloud, understand why Aerith is the most important person to him

[@nubbylittlecat1753]

Idk about “Most” important, that’s kinda a reach…

[@koosh88215]

THIS!!!! I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!

[@jinnimoo]

There's an argument to be made who Cloud may have loved more BUT you seriously can't be saying Aerith who he's known for 2 months became more important to him than Tifa whom he's known since childhood and was literally the reason he wanted to become a soldier, he did everything for Tifa. The latest novel confirms that Cloud was willing to do anything to become Tifa's 'special person' when he left Nibelheim. The iconic lifestream scene in part 3 also shows that inside Cloud's subconscious was full of childhood memories with Tifa. All this doesn't just get overtaken suddenly by another person. Even if you believe Cloud development more romantic feelings for Aerith, Tifa will always be his priority.

[@Jammineyeonline]

A. Sorry but i love Zack and earith too much together to get her involved with cloud.

[@MetaGrave]

I think the tidiest way to wrap it up is Cloud with Tifa and Aerith reuniting with Zack. I think it makes for the happiest way to end all four. Cloud: Tifa... I'm so sorry... for everything... Tifa: You've always mattered to me, Cloud, SOLDIER or not. Aerith: Zack... you came back...! Zack: Sorry it took so long.

[@therecruitassassin]

It’s always been Cloud and Tifa. Not shipping, not fanaticism. Just the plot.

[@fiprosha]

I feel like: "Why you should choose Tifa" would be a better title for this video. Because it doesn't sound like the choice was really hard for you lol. The choice was also certainly never hard for me, I've been choosing Aerith for 20 years now.

[@Uri_Mercury]

I keep telling ppl. Tifa is a childhood crush. Cloud is developmentally still a 13yo boy. Meeting Aerith, he learned social skills and levels of empathy that helped him mature. Aerith is better suited for an adult relationship with him. Even in Advent Children, Tifa lacked the ability to break thru clouds exterior and depression. She never knew how to talk to him. Something Aerith could have done blindfolded and bound. I love Tifa, but again, she and cloud are not compatible in real life. It was a childhood crush, that spilled over into a duty of protection masked as love. Aerith was the 1st person to make cloud think beyond the Grey, and tap into his humanity FULLY. There's a reason Remake Aerith tells cloud in the resolution scene NOT to fall for her. Cause she knows that he WILL, and it will leave him emotionally stagnant after her departure. Tifa just doesn't have the social tools that aerith has naturally to speak to clouds soul. And that's ok.. some relationships like that can still work. But they would require alot of couples therapy. Aerith ironically enough would have been an amazing couples therapist for the 2, if not directly involved. I keep seeing ppl bring up all Tifa did for cloud in the lifestream, using that to show her feelings and devotion etc. While they forget, Aerith orchestrated the whole thing to help Tifa even DO it. (See: Maiden Who Travels The Planet). Nobody asks how Cloud feels at the end of the day. In real life, you can be a persons care giver thru cancer, liver failure, a coma, or anything else. While theyll be thankful for you, and cherish you, it wont always make them fall in love with you. Advent Children made that very clear. She and cloud were domestic partners at BEST. So in the end, i ship cloud with NO ONE, cause without therapy, he's not suited to love or devote himself to ANYONE.. Because the person who was on the road TO that breakthrough was stolen from him. Remember my point about cloud being mentally 13? Notice how all the children at The Leaf House gravitate to Aerith, because she understands the minds of children. And what were Biggs last words to cloud? "Its a shame you dont like kids, because youre so similar"..... Cloud needs therapy.. Itll never work with Tifa or anyone without it.

[@The_Mammal_Man]

Although I stand by my words in the video, I found it interesting the way you put it above. This is one of the many different reasons why, each of us, love FF7 so much.

[@Mystra]

Well you're wrong. He gives the flower he got from Aerith as an adult immediately to Tifa. Tifa is also the one he shows the most emotion to as an adult. It's not a childhood crush, it's a man that's long been in love with Tifa. He's not a 13 year old developmentally either, you just make that up to suit your narrative. As it has never been stated anywhere.

[@Uri_Mercury]

That 21yo had a childhood crush at the age of 8 to Like 13. Wound up in a form of stasis, then spent forever away. He never got a real opportunity to even get to know the girl as an adult. It's a fact that Cloud is emotionally stunted at the age of like 13. What exactly is his "love" based upon outside of childhood hero syndrome? Be so forreal right now lol. He gave Tifa a flower that a street vendor gave him. Yall want that man to be with Tifa so bad that you don't even realize he wouldn't be able to give her what she needs lol. Cloud needs alot of help right now. I feel he loved them BOTH, but he's left with Tifa, and it COULD work, but he'd have to find reasons to love her back that aren't rooted in nostalgia alone. THATS why I say it's a childhood crush and nothing more. It's not mature in any real way. And your disbelief to notice his lack of maturity beyond the age of 13 is a personal issue. I'm not pushing a narrative that's public forum 🖤

[@Mystra]

​@TheDancingHighSeraph Now you just lie. LITERALLY in FF7R Aerith gives him the flower and its the only flower he has when he gives it to Tifa. Anyway we are done here cuz I don't talk to people who deliberately make things up.

[@Uri_Mercury]

@Mystra Um, how old are you? Cause the entire point of the discussion is going over your head, and you're thinking on the most basic and shallow level here. So yea, we can indeed wrap this up lol. Ps, I was directly referring to Aerith when I said "Street Vendor" lol. I didn't think you'd be so naive for that to go over your head. I was making light of the fact you gave the flower gift so much significance, like it was a major declaration of his love for Tifa or something. Aerith coulda gave him a twizzler and he'd have given it to her simply cause it was in his hand lol. You also act as if Cloud wouldn't have given Tifa the flower as a platonic gesture of good will. Everything isn't a declaration of deep love lol.

[@ahernandez5375]

I know it’s a love triangle, I know players get to pick who they fancy but personally cloud and Aeriths love story and chemistry wins me over 💜 Sad we have to wait 3 years for pt 3 ~

[@Mukation]

But that's not true. You get to "pick" who you go on dates with but not what happens on those dates. Cloud consistentlly acts differently with all his companions, because they all have a unique relationship with him. Only one is 100% romantic on Clouds ends and that's Tifa. The resolution in Remake: Tifa: Cloud hugs her as she falls into his embrace crying. Aerith: She, out of the blue, tells him he can't fall in love with her and he responds with if he's allowed to have his agency over himself. Rebirth ch 8 date: Tifa: She asks if he wants to explore the saucer with him and he say's off course. Then they hold hands and slowly walk toward the Gondola among other hand holding couples. Aerith: Doesn't ask of he wants to tag along and at the skywheel she drags him along there by pulling him. Ch12 Tifa: Cloud takes her hand as Aerith sings about taking someones hand and never letting them go. On the Gondola, Tifa makes a vauge statement about them being close, Cloud confirms he feels the same, pulls her in for a hug and kisses her. Aerith: She wants him to sit next to her, he sits down on the other side. Then she tells him he reminds her of Zack, says she wants to be with him now and hugs his arm and leans on his shoulder. He'll only hold her hand and after the date he'll claim he didn't do anything. Like, i'm sorry i love Aerith but her Boyfriend is on the cover next to Cloud and the last shot of Zack we see in Rebirth is him sitting in the church holding a leaf of the yellow flower that Aerith said meant reunion for lovers...... FF7 is not a dating simulator. Aerith was a love interest in the narrative but her shocking death and the revelation in the Lifestream that Cloud had secretly been in love with Tifa all his life is telling us that Tifa is the intended endgame lover for Cloud in OG.

[@ahernandez5375]

@@Mukationwow that’s a lot of reading but I disagree, so we can agree to disagree! You can be team cloti forever and I’ll be cloud and aerith forever 🩷💙 whether Aerith lives or dies she is the one who is engraved in clouds heart forever. While DoG and AC post ff7 still refer to tifa as a precious childhood friend. Maybe in part 3 they will canonize one girl maybe not I think money wise they’ll probably keep milking the damn love triangle ~ but no matter what my favorite lovebirds are cloud and aerith 💘

[@24karatekid]

I liked Aerith as a kid. Her healing abilities and leaning on the mystical side complemented Cloud's physical strength and tough no nonsense facade. She helped bring him out of his shell/comfort zone. She represented a bright future to move towards not a complicated painful past and reminder of how immature you were as a kid that you get with Tifa. Zach is dead at that point in the story. To say that Aerith SHOULD be with Zach is to say that she SHOULD die which of course she does. In any case, they were both working the SINNED system on Cloud.

[@itsdantaylor]

Regardless of who you choose (Ship and let ship :) ) it does seem that the writers do seem to have a opinion on who is (IMO) the 'poster couple' for FF7 and that MAY be due to 'pathos' then anything. Cloud and Aerith are paired together in promotional material, crossover events, and shown to be more romantically tied in subsequent media as the years have gone on. Aerith has stated (in a official short story) that while she was drawn to Cloud because he reminded her of Zack, she now loves Cloud for HIM and now, for lack of a better term, prefers him to Zack. Cloud meanwhile is so heartbroken over the loss of Aerith he is shown both in cannon (FFT) and non cannon crossovers to be seemingly constantly searching for the promised land in which he can see Aerith again, or kill Sephiroth because of what he did. NOW granted Clerith is probably given more focus BECAUSE of the emotions it invokes, lost love, tragedy, hope for being reunited in some way shape or form, etc. So yeah I think Clerith is the 'cannon' decision and it MAY just be because it adds more drama to the characters then making them happy/well adjusted people who move on with their lives for their own mental well being.

[@katyadade1041]

Exactly! You cannot beat “a dead potential girlfriend who died saving the world” even if the writers say that Cloud and Tifa were meant to be. Aerith is just the main lady in the game, and it would take an incredible writer to make Cloud and Tifa work. Even the writing in the original was not strong enough to make Cloud and Tifa work, even though they tried. They were still not together in Advent Children, because the loss Cloud went through was stronger than his intention to make it work with Tifa.

[@currentoutrage36]

Denzel isn't actually their ( cloud and tifa ) child; he's Chloe's child from the chocobo farm. Cloud and Tifa never get together. Nothing in Advent children confirms this. People ship Zack and Aerith due to insecurities about Cloud and Tifa's relationship. Despite being labeled a happy ending, if you read the Ultimanias, Zack dissolves in the Lifestream, leaving Aerith alone in the 'world of memories' - not exactly a happy ending. Even the og FF7 commercial narrator says "a love that can never be," and on screen was Cloud and Aerith . Aerith expressed a wish to be the one to piece together Cloud's memories because of her love for him . And giving Tifa full credit for this is illogical, and using it to argue for Cloud and Tifa's relationship is flawed because arieth helped tifa put cloud's memories together. In the maiden who travels the planet arieth says she loves cloud more than zack .

[@Uri_Mercury]

Finally, a person who sees both sides. I keep telling ppl. Tifa is a childhood crush. Cloud is developmentally still a 13yo boy. Meeting Aerith, he learned social skills and levels of empathy that helped him mature. Aerith is better suited for an adult relationship with him. Even in Advent Children, Tifa lacked the ability to break thru clouds exterior and depression. She never knew how to talk to him. Something Aerith could have done blindfolded and bound. I love Tifa, but again, she and cloud are not compatible in real life. It was a childhood crush, that spilled over into a duty of protection masked as love. Aerith was the 1st person to make cloud think beyond the Grey, and tap into his humanity FULLY. There's a reason Remake Aerith tells cloud in the resolution scene NOT to fall for her. Cause she knows that he WILL, and it will leave him emotionally stagnant after her departure. Tifa just doesn't have the social tools that aerith has naturally to speak to clouds soul. And that's ok.. some relationships like that can still work. But they would require alot of couples therapy. Aerith ironically enough would have been an amazing couples therapist for the 2, if not directly involved.

[@stephentrader9142]

Cloud needs to move on and be happy mourning Aerith for all eternity won't do that

[@currentoutrage36]

@Onewingedwingman, does it change that Cloud chose Aerith over Tifa even when she was dead? And AC is Canon, so yeah, Tifa was always the second option. The backup, not the one and only. People should understand that. It's funny that Clerith sympathizes with Cloud when shipping him and Aerith, but Cloti only sympathizes with Tifa when shipping Cloud and Tifa, just like in this video. People like Tifa, it's alright, but they should stop pushing for Cloud to choose her over Aerith when Aerith already won the shipping war. Devs said that Rebirth and the entire Re trilogy will line up with Advent Children, and well, Cloud chooses Aerith over everything in AC. Even a fool would see that cloud and Aerith's chemistry far surpasses anything tifa and Cloud shared.

[@17jacoyne]

i personally choose cloud x aerith over cloud x tifa to put it in simpler terms...i feel the former makes for a more interesting story than the latter, plus cloud needs some color in his black and white life

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Meh, I've always thought that if you play with Tifa front and centre, the game is nowhere near as impactful. Friend (who you probably don't like anyway) dies, Cloud gets with girl next door. Ta da. I get if it works for you, but I find it a little basic. If you're Clerith, you get a subtle and nuanced star crossed lover tale, with heartbreak, mystery and the never-ending prospect of potentially bringing her back. It's a unique experience, a unique character and why I'll always be a Clerith, no matter how many times they retcon or ask Mena to voice her. And guys, she's over Zack. You can't escape Marlene ;)

[@countquackula8539]

SquareEnix knows Tifa is popular with the fans, and just to brush her aside to give Clerith ship doesn't make sense. Especially with Zack in the game.

[@starchannel123]

Tifa has always been for the fans. Aerith was created to be Clouds love interest.

[@lieberte]

In japan aerith is a lot more popular than tifa

[@countquackula8539]

@lieberte Before the Remake, yes, but after the Remake, Tifas popularity grew in Japan.

[@countquackula8539]

@@starchannel123 Not necessarily true because a ship hasn't ever been confirmed. Just speculation.

[@decknamen4948]

@@starchannel123 That is objectively wrong and straight up misinformation. The first concept art for the heroine had Tifa's looks and name with Aerith's backstory. They were later separated into two because they needed Aerith to die for the planet, and Tifa was reimagined as the childhood friend and love interest. There are literally MORE than 17 official statements in Ultimania and Anni books where Cloud and Tifa confirm mutual feelings for each other, and even AFTER AC, Tifa and the kids are called Cloud's 'Promised Land'. Are you people allergic to canon information or what?

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

No. Thank YOU for having the guts to say it.

[@currentoutrage36]

Nothing said in the video changes that Cloud chose Aerith over Tifa even when she was dead? And AC is Canon, so yeah, Tifa was always the second option. The backup, not the one and only. People should understand that. It's funny that Cleriths sympathizes with Cloud when shipping him and Aerith, but Clotis only sympathizes with Tifa when shipping Cloud and Tifa, just like in this video. People like Tifa, it's alright, but they should stop pushing for Cloud to choose her over Aerith when Aerith already won the shipping war. Devs said that Rebirth and the entire Re trilogy will line up with Advent Children, and well, Cloud chooses Aerith over everything in AC. Even a fool would see that cloud and Aerith's chemistry far surpasses anything tifa and Cloud shared.

[@megaaa4k]

@@currentoutrage36 real

[@risquecat]

Cloud is always behind Aerith, protecting her. I love Tifa but I love Aerith a little more.

[@KingNazaru]

Glad you get the picture. Team Cloti/Clifa FTW.

[@1ts_cecelia]

for real!

[@diegomireles]

Knowing that Aerith dies, I always chose Aerith in Chocobo Saucer

[@lysith3aPS5]

I'll go with Nojima and Nomura on this one, it's always been Aerith. Tifa's the consolation prize when Aerith dies ;)

[@NordicWiseguy]

Cloud and Tifa never even got together. The Advent Children confirms this. They slept in different rooms and they were constantly arguing. Cloud was so miserable with Tifa that he moved into Aerith's church and he adopted Denzel for the sole reason of believing that Aerith led the boy to him. Tifa was just Cloud's childhood crush (who ostracized him when they were kids) and after Cloud met Aerith she was the only woman Cloud loved romantically. Their personalities complimented eachother and their chemistry was off the charts. It is a misconseption that Aerith loved Cloud because of Zack. FF7 ultimanias and novels prove that Aerith loved Cloud for who he really was. Her initial attraction toward Cloud started because he reminded her of Zack but Aerith fell in love with Cloud more than she ever did with Zack. Tifa is one of the reasons why Cloud became so socially awkward and reserved because Tifa and her group of friends ostracized and bullied him when they were kids. The way Cloud acted around Tifa in the Advent Children was a telltale sign that his love for Tifa was a platonic love. He was so heartbroken over Aerith's death that he lost his will to live. Cloud also had geostigma but he really didn't even care if there was a cure or not. Not being able to be with Aerith made everything seem pointless for Cloud. It was only after he saw Aerith again in the end and realized that she wasn't really gone and that she was always going to be with him he found his enjoyment of life again.

[@TiminyCrickets]

Aerith would always be the sacrificial friend. And it is good of Cloud that he cares for her so incredibly deeply and platonically. Like it's the closest of platonic friendships. Someone you'd hold hands with, for sure, but not make out with. ;)

[@harmen9598]

I always chose Aerith from the very first time I played the game since September 1997. Finished the game at least 8 times and always chose Aerith. Since Remake I can’t choose - well, I got the Aerith scene the first time. Second play-through Tifa.

[@mymanjohan5101]

To be frank i would like to see cloud and tifa together, but the cloud/aerith pipeline is quite strong 😂 Only thing is i just want my boy zack to not get his heart broken now that hens back, sure aerith got closure but he did not, hope bro can take it 🤣 his chemistry w cissnei was giving couple tho

[@pumpkinpie1509]

Finally someone who gets it lol cloud and tifa will be together forever no matter what just like zack and aerith 😊

[@ReverendLuc]

Cloti 4 life

[@SuperCam-me3mj]

Tifa is the girl for Cloud. It’s the Player themselves that fall in love with Aerith.

[@kopkop1111]

I love Aerith

[@RainbowKaraokeJunk-vt9pu]

The remake made this decision hard to me more than the original. I think he is awkward and kind of cozy with Tifa in remake more than he is in the original and the relationship seems more genuine at times. He’s also protective of Aerith as he gets to know her more making the possibility of that more real. I like him with both women. In the original it’s hard to say who I shipped with who but in the remake they feel like an actual entire family him, Barrett, Tifa, Aerith. It’s going to be hard going into rebirth not knowing what to expect. They made me care about these characters more in remake I believe so whatever happens it will break my heart shipping aside.

[@The_Mammal_Man]

Nicely said. And lets also include Red in the family, although he arrived at the end of Remake, he was accepted right way by everyone

[@balkanbaroque]

Aerith and cloud have more chemistry, those who pick tifa only do it out of preference for the character, not the bond, imo

[@nubbylittlecat1753]

Y’all really trynna downplay Tifa for some reason…💀 Y’all do the same with Zack, it’s weird.

[@balkanbaroque]

@@nubbylittlecat1753 cloud and tifa’s romantic chemistry, not tifa’s character

[@stephentrader9142]

No we pick tifa because she is alive and we want cloud happy. Not mourning someone for all time

[@balkanbaroque]

@@stephentrader9142 have you seen advent children, it’s been two years and cloud still didn’t end up with tifa, they have terrible communication and all he can think about is aerith

[@stephentrader9142]

@balkanbaroque yea that's poor writing. Cloud is more depressed over how he didn't save her more than in love. Honestly Cloud should be over that by that point it's not like him and aerith had a 20 year relationship. They knew each other less than a year. That is why I started to like ff9 more because I know Zidane would have no problem moving on if he was I the same position.

[@emmyicon5598]

Majority says Cloud and Tifa

[@kenabi]

girl who simps after a dead man. or the girl who simps after 'you'. doesn't seem like a good idea all around, really.

[@Mystra]

Not hard for me, the canon choice Tifa.

[@KoriDess]

fanon*

[@Mystra]

@@KoriDess nope

[@KoriDess]

@@Mystra nah, totally fanon

[@Mystra]

@LauZhauchyan no it's not and I don't care what you think

[@KoriDess]

@@Mystra fanon, totally. Not even in a single trailer, not even sleep in the same bed after AC. Cheers, lol

[@StevenWilliams-i1v]

In my opinion is tifa she help put his mind back together

[@xEclyptical]

You left out the part where Aerith tells Cloud that he wants to meet the “real” him. And you didn’t discuss Cloud’s resolution where Cloud did not reject Aerith when she told him he can’t fall in love with her. But i get it. You can’t use these bits in your video because it goes against the message you’re trying to portray of Aerith only liking Cloud because he reminds him of her “first” love. And I liked seeing Cloud and Tifa together before I played the Remake. But the Remake showed me that Cloud had great chemistry with Aerith.

[@Mystra]

Aerith might love Cloud but there's absolutely 0 evidence of him liking her back. Which means it's doomed to fail lmaom

[@xEclyptical]

@Mystra she's making it difficult for Cloud to not fall in love with her when she's holding onto him (Rebirth Trailer). Why else would she have said it? But we'll see next month! 😭

[@NordicWiseguy]

Facts. Tifa's fans use lots of copium and mental gymnastics but the truth is that Aerith is the most important person in Cloud's life. She will always be number 1 for Cloud. There are no chemistry between Cloud and Tifa. That little attraction they had was a superficial little kid infatuation. It wasn't real love unlike between Cloud and Aerith. In the Advent Children Cloud friendzoned Tifa and moved into Aerith's church so that he could even feel a glimpse of her presense. Cloud was so broken over Aerith's death that he lost the will to live. He also had a geostigma but Cloud didn't care if he was going to die or not. Life without Aerith was too painful for him. It was only in the end of the AC when Cloud saw Aerith again and realized that she will always be with him he got his will to live back and found his lost happiness. Him being with Aerith is Cloud's promised land.

[@xEclyptical]

​ @NordicKnight2024 The only time I can see Cloud and Tifa finally coming closer together is after Advent Children. The 'wolf' disappearing to me symbolized Cloud was done howling (expressing pain and guilt) and being hollow (not allowing himself to have joy, happiness, or love.) and was a sign of him moving on. Just as Aerith lost her first love and found new love...Cloud loses Aerith, he too can find new love (with Tifa) at this point. I think however that maybe Cloud and Aerith will somehow meet again... their theme songs alludes to it...

[@Mystra]

@@xEclyptical copiummmmm

[@tinatinkvirkvelia1317]

Where did so many wrong people in the comments come from 😂? The answer has always been the same, it's Cloud and Tifa, the one his TRUE self loved his whole life and the one he ends up with. It's been like this in OG, in Compilation, and now in Remake, too. EDIT: lmao help! Some people are also apparently just straight up lying about Nojima and Nomura supposedly saying things they never even said 🤣🤣 You shouldn't be trusting lying blogs that spread misinformation (like cloudxaeris) kids 🤣

[@BVRcombat]

Having finished Rebirth, I think its obvious what the pairs will be at the end. Cloud and Tifa Zack and Aerith It makes the most sense. No one gets left out, no one gets cucked/humilated for no good reason. I assume the devs dont have a reason to hate Zack or Tifa.

[@currentoutrage36]

At 0:50 u ask who is cloud's soulmate . In og ff7 cait sith says that cloud and Arieth belong together .

[@TiminyCrickets]

You mean the liar thief who works for Shinra? I'm not inclined to pay too much attention to a stuffed animal "fortune teller" at the gold saucer who is just as likely to say that to any couple who crossed his path.

[@1ts_cecelia]

as a cloti kind of girl. i’m gonna say cloud loves aerith aerith loves zack tifa loves cloud and zack loves aerith after advent children i think cloud would be able to move on from the guilt of not being able to save aerith from death and being able to see how much tifa loves him and how much she’s been there for him after all tifa quote on quote fixed him i don’t really know if that makes sense but if u played the og game i think it should. i think tifa is clouds soulmate but in the timeline of ff7r he loves aerith

[@sealone777]

For the game, Aerith makes more sense as it’ll be better story but personally I like Tifa as a character more. Now how why can’t he pick both? 😊

[@WrenchLord]

If I'm gonna be honest I'd say Tifa, because she sees Cloud for Cloud. Don't get me wrong, Aerith is a kind soul, but Tifa showed unwavering devotion to him when he was comatose by mako, even to the point were her health takes a decline. I'd love to see Zack and Aerith have one moment in rebirth or in the last game.

[@The_Mammal_Man]

We will surely get moments btw Zack and Aerith in the next 2 games. There's no doubt about it

[@ndrcalrryx2094]

How does Tifa see Cloud as himself if she tells him she barely knows anything about him? Uh..

[@marvin2983]

The premise is wrong. The debate has nothing to do with Cloud. Rather, who is the best waifu. Nobody cares about Cloud or Zack.

[@annabel6038]

Cloud and Tifa make sense logically, but my heart wants Cloud and Aerith

[@FelixS.]

Both + Jessie. That´s what I would do.

[@shirotsuru777]

Gonna have to disagree with you there bud. Cloud always searches and wants to be with Aerith, even in the end game. Tifa became the default after she died.

[@dasmeister7502]

2:58 Can't stop laughing at Cloud trolling

[@eddy5097]

If you have a functioning brain, the answer is Tifa She grew up with Cloud shared in his traumatic experience helped him fix himself FINE AS FUCK loving caring supportive strong level headed Tifa is the perfect woman for Cloud

[@StygianStilettosGamer]

**SPOILERS** Well considering Cloud only kissed Tifa and not Aerith, apparently the choice wasn't too difficult for Cloud to make lol.

[@TiminyCrickets]

there are some weird folks who I've seen recently who try to say that holding hands or even interlacing fingers is equivalent (or even MORE intimate than) a makeout session. the plot points for Cloti just seem so much stronger through the game, but hey... I like Tifa's personality and her looks better than Aerith's. Childhood friends, it's this beautiful and imperfect story that has been crafted over time!... Cloud's known Aerith for ... a month? Someone else worked out the events of OG adventure really only lasting 43 days. (based on the time of the meteor and the plaque showing it in AC) It is not love at first sight. It is an expedited deep friendship at first sight... not romantic love. You can interlink fingers with your friends... but you're gonna save that makeout sesh for Tifa everytime. Not because she hot, but she's that straight forwardly warm, compassionate, wonderful girl that he's always wanted.

[@ludovicjeanson3820]

Tifa with cloud, logic. But Zack with aerith.....bot really. Aerith is a godess.

[@orome9793]

Teenage me was obsessed with Tifa all the way when OG came out. Adult me fell for Aerith in remake/rebirth. Tifa kind of annoys me now. It's just the way her character is written. Once you get past the boobs, her personality seems boring and a bit manipulative. She has no identity or motivation apart from clinging to Cloud. I find all of the other charters to be more interesting.

[@EvelynL.1112]

I never even cared about how she looks. It's just her insecurity, secrecy, and doubts that make her interesting to me. Though I wished her character revolved so much around the MC to make her relevant to the story. The other Party Members have their personal character arcs that had NOTHING to do with Cloud. Tifa doesn't. Her only purpose in the story is to be Cloud's second girl.

[@TiminyCrickets]

That's amazing that you can feel that way about Tifa. It's not about the boobs for me. I find Tifa to be fascinating in every respect. Aerith is a fantastic friend, but I couldn't personally picture myself being romantically attracted to her in a deeper level. Her voice, her more passive behavior... when Aerith is staring Hojo down in Remake... that was the one time I actually thought she was really attractive. Tifa has that energy with every single moment in battle, and it's so very attractive. Then Tifa's got the warmth and softness of heart all the rest of the time so you know she'd be the best, well rounded waifu. Not to mention she's liked Cloud for years and vice versa. Cloti is a more beautiful pairing of passionate hearts. *shrugs*

[@sootythunder3111]

There is no answer. its making a good ongoing love triangle 101 make enough gaps for player interpertation with a game its even better because you could mold certain story beats to only appear based around your own personal interaction with characters and to keep the player invested you never ever EVER allow a look inside the characters head and explore their emotions around the love triangle unless you are planning to definitively end the debate. and hey look at that whose the one character we never get a look inside the head of in any of the expanded reading material? you guessed it our emotionally stunted spikey haired protagonists We get Aeriths We get Tifa and we defintiely see that both girls love him we never see Clouds thoughts we see him grapple with guilt, inferiority complex, imposter syndrom and PTSD in advent children and these issues deeply surround his relationship and views of both Tifa and the memory of Aerith but when all of these things are worked out by the end of Advent Children we never see the end result of his personal relationships does he begin a relationship with Tifa starting a true family with her, Denzel and Marlene? does he just remain really good platonic friends with tifa as they run their respective business out of the same building (7th heaven and Strife delivery service) its for your interpretation the only thing we ever see after that is the five lines of dialogue shared between the two of them during Dirge of Cerberus and that dialogue is restricted to them talking about the current battle with Deepground in the ruins of Midgar

[@sootythunder3111]

That being said by post advent children with cloud finally having his head screwed on right and moved past his own traumas and problems…….I’m going to park my ass in the camp of Cloud X Tifa but that exists only AFTER advent children, my personal stance is cloud head is too badly screwed seven ways to Sunday to even begin processing romantic feelings in a way that an adult can until after advent children…..hell I would probably even say dirge of Cerberus

[@rockkandyplay5692]

Everyone is putting Aerith with everyone, from cloud to Sephiroth and everyone in between, but I say it should be Tifa because she's been there since the beginning. She's been with him through it all. She earned it imo (or he earned it however you look at it). I just think Aerith is a hopeful, where Tifa is a given

[@rockkandyplay5692]

@user-ky8nd2rz4f iirc we wouldn't even have a ff7 if cloud hadn't gone off to be a soldier to impress Tifa. And aerith barely knew cloud. But whatever

[@nubbylittlecat1753]

@user-ky8nd2rz4fHow about you knock it off and remember that this isn’t the original. It is canon to this game that she was his only friend back then and he had a huge crush on her. They weren’t as close because she was super popular but still…

[@ZSleepingDragonZ]

You know, people usually strive for things that are hard to obtain. In Cloud's case, Aerith. For Cloud, Tifa is like a sister to him that he knew since childhood. When they meet again in Midgar years later, Cloud seems quite indifferent toward Tifa.

[@rockkandyplay5692]

@@ZSleepingDragonZ do you think that may have something to do with the experiments and mako poisoning that he's indifferent? He's like that toward everyone it seems to me. I think Aerith unlocked his empathy, and that's what made it possible for him to have that night with Tifa.

[@Mystra]

@user-ky8nd2rz4f the original is outdated

[@17jacoyne]

nevertheless i do appreciate how ff7 rebirth gave players the option on who to have cloud romance with between aerith and tifa!...and the other characters...it's like square knows they created a love triangle hence they allowed players to choose cloud's love life so everyone can be buddies!

[@Yashieyama]

This is so fked for me, if im choosing for personality, its definitely aerith, if for looks, tifa, if tine spent together, tifa, if time having fun together, aerith. 🤔

[@The_Mammal_Man]

Well if you are not sure, you can always choose both 😎

[@Yashieyama]

@@The_Mammal_Man 🍷🗿 man of culture

[@elowei9919]

The fans of Tifa will pick Tifa, but the fans of cloud and Aerith will pick Aerith. For easily multiple reasons. Even after the events of the game, film and dirge of Cerberus. Tifa is always stated as clouds childhood friend. Always will be. Until SE states otherwise, your headcanon doesn’t count. ❤

[@RaymondKarlVeasey75]

Finally, Someone Understands The Truth.

[@nubbylittlecat1753]

“Tifa is always stated as clouds childhood friend…Until SE states otherwise, your headcanon doesn’t count.” Right…cuz people just made up the fact that they like each other more than friends. Right….💀🗿

[@RaymondKarlVeasey75]

@@nubbylittlecat1753 Question. How Come Tifa Wasn't On The Back Of Cloud's Motorbike With Him During The Song "Calling" At The End Of Advent Children? I Mean That Would Have Been A Great Way For Them To Prove That They "Like Each Other More Than Friends", Right? 😮

[@Mystra]

Yeah for made up reasons that doesn't make any sense. Cleriths are delusional.

[@Mystra]

Delusional people will pick Aerith

[@Dizzydizzydizzy7]

In the og tifa and cloud literally sleep together if you go her route in the barn. This isnt even a discussion. Both english and japanese clouds va even said he loves tifa. Tifa is the one who survives. Cant really do much with a corpse.

[@simoncss1]

Can only hope that there are sensible folks on the other side of the aisle who can b convinced by reality & proof. But I'm not actually fully optimistic on this. Understandable that any1 can hold a preference & it is every1's right to, so long s what you do & what you like isn't really hurting/hindering any1 else. Chocolate's good, strawberry's good, vanilla can b good too. Havin said that, holding onto one's preference while not recognising actual reality & spinning all tales around to fit their version of story... I'm Clo-Ti, cos Tif's such a sweet heart & resonates strong with me, my preference. And, it so happens to b THE reality too, based off all the scenes + signs in-game & even the creators' own words from their publications. Really shouldn't even b grounds for debate. It jus is. My small gripe might b that the creators did indeed put in options to cozy up to all the girls in the team & in Aerith's case, it definitely is intimate enough that it greatly inflates hope + expectations with the Cleriths. Could say the creators r playin with all our hearts there.

[@thomasrickelman5468]

why choose? - both are great. what they do is move to where polygamy is legal and the problem is solved! - LOL yes, kidding, team Tifa for the win

[@ursusarctos4511]

This is really tragic when you really think about it. Tifa loves Cloud, Cloud loves Aerith and Aerith loves Zack. The only winners here are Aerith and Zack.

[@megaaa4k]

Aerith do not love zack tho, in rebirth she confirms that she wanna be with cloud. Also marlene tolt zack that aerith have feelings for cloud.

[@ursusarctos4511]

@@megaaa4k Is it really, though? Aerith is still desperately searching for Zack. I like Cloud/Aerith pairing more to be honest...

[@CloudKyu]

here's a crazy concept: both choosing Tifa as well as Aerith is completely valid. its crazy to me that people feel the need to constantly disprove the other ship when there is plenty evidence for both relationships being romantic. they are both right. and thats the beauty you can make your own choice! I really wish the discourse around shipping would move away from trying to put the other side down and disprove it to just being accepting. besides ff7 is SO MUCH more than the romance aspect, there's so much more to talk about that isn't about romance

[@madelinemcmillan4020]

a true man of culture

[@slimshaydee1]

People arguing over this is ridiculous. The answer is simple, ...both. sephiroth makes the hard choice for him. It is actually possible to love 2 people equally but differently and in AC Aerith tells him to let her go, accept what he has and move on with his life. Its not really that difficult to grasp 😂

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Can we mix Aerith's head, Aerith's personality, Tifa's voice and Tifa's body? If yes, I'm team Aerifa all the way!!!!

[@zaiiiiin.__]

Me personally…. Both 😂

[@Not_Actually_Smiling_IRL]

A cultured person.

[@shadowmomochiuchiha6839]

I love how you casually explain to the angry Aerith fans why Tifa is the better option in every virtual way😂

[@Rob_Banks_TV]

Cloud needs to Pull a Rex and get them both so everyone wins. However Clerith is way more interesting. LMFAO did you play the REMAKE at all.

[@not4ne141]

Did you feel nothing after playing crisis core and the intermission dlc?

[@Ali-chan-r7w]

@@not4ne141 todos los sentimos pero Aerith nos hizo querer seguir adelante ademas ellos si se encontraran pero Zack muerto va a otro lugar en donde Aerith no va, es decir toman diferentes caminos.

[@Wingedspace22]

Naw. The answer is either

[@williammora88]

Cloud is getting topped off at 7:07-7:09😮

[@cho4d]

It's Tifa and it's not even close. Not even a teeny tiny little bit close. I don't even know why this is contentious.

[@NordicWiseguy]

Cloud and Tifa have no chemistry whatsoever. Every evidence points that Cloud is in love with Aerith. Tough luck for Tifa and Zack but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[@vincentwolf1456]

@@NordicWiseguy Biggest bullshit I've ever read. Have you even played the games? There's more chemistry between Cloud and Tifa than in a mad scientist's lab. Aerith? Just some weird, overly talkative chick, nothing more.

[@NordicWiseguy]

@@vincentwolf1456 Yep i have and i have also watched the advent children. Cloud is clearly in love with Aerith. It's not even close.

[@vincentwolf1456]

@@NordicWiseguy Ok, stay delusional.

[@NordicWiseguy]

@@vincentwolf1456 I see you haven't read the novels and ultimanias. You should read them. Cloud is the most important person for Aerith and Aerith is the most important person for Cloud. Cloud was [Aerith’s] friend, her lover - he represented something precious, an existence that she must protect. - On the Way to a Smile, Case of Lifestream (White) Also: Aerith Gainsborough: A young woman descended from the Ancients who will forever be engraved in [Cloud’s] heart. - Dirge of Cerberus (Japanese game manual) There is a scene where Cloud and Aerith laugh when they escape from the church. This is the only time Cloud laughs clearly through the story of Final Fantasy VII. Is the reason he was able to open up to her, despite just meeting, because they felt something special for each other? - Ultimania Omega, page 14 Bugenhagen: What to do? Have you lost your way? When that happens, we each have to take a good long look at ourselves. There’s always something in the deepest reaches of our hearts. […] Bugenhagen: Do you see it? What is it that you are searching for? Cloud: I remember Aeris a lot. - Final Fantasy VII (disc 2) “It is my sin that I couldn’t protect my loved one” - under this assumption, Cloud closes off his heart. What will the reunion with Aeris bring him? Two years have passed since she returned to the Planet, and AErith still lives on in the hearts of her friends who saved the Planet. Especially in Cloud, to whom she is a symbol of “the sin of failing to protect a loved one,” and the main factor in him closing off his heart. - 10th Anniversary Ultimania, page 52 “Can sins ever be forgiven?” - Cloud asks this to Vincent, who mutters a brief answer. For both of them, “I couldn’t protect my loved one” is the sense of guilt that they carry, so their words resonate with weight. - 10th Anniversary Ultimania, page 72 Cloud arrives at the top [of the slide] and sits just a short distance from where Aerith is. Aerith closes the distance [between them] and smiles. Their shoulders just barely touching. Cloud’s face looks calm, [but on the] inside his heart was throbbing. - Final Fantasy VII Remake Ultimania Plus “I believe for those who formerly traveled with her as comrades and for the viewers, each carries their own feelings and love for Aerith. In this story, Cloud also carries his own undying feelings for Aerith, even to this very day… Its relation with the church scene is… Yup. I’ll leave this part to your imagination. (laughs) - Nomura, Famitsu Magazine (October 2003) [ファミ通PS2 2003年10月24日号 NO.153] Sephiroth: the enemy Cloud admired in his youth, the one who robbed him of his beloved, and who is the nucleus of the Reunion. As the Planet’s enemy and for all these reasons, Cloud’s battle will not end until he settles things one-on-one with him. - Final Fantasy 25th Memorial Ultimania, Vol 2. Page 21 And the final nails on this coffin: Hollow. No promises to keep.

[@vincentwolf1456]

It's not only not a "hardest choice", it's not a choice at all. Cuz Tifa wins by a landslide, by default, in 1000/1000, in a 1000000/1000000, it's not a competition, Aerith has 0 chances, below 0, deep negative. Tifa is just... Perfect. Also tits. Yeah.

[@ETHomerin]

'you and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals so let's do it like they do on the discovery channel' lol

[@error5394]

cloud and aerith will always be star crossed lovers sorry

[@Silverfish-qv8ig]

Yes :)

[@lucalopresti2709]

Only an insane would pick Aerith instead of Tifa.

[@Ali-chan-r7w]

Soy ese loco por que necesito una medicina que me haga sentir mejor asi que por eso elijo a Aerith.

[@wahidpawana424]

I choose LUCRECIA!!!! Not really, i would get annoyed with her repeating "i'm so sorry." .

[@martinerrecarte]

Easy, Aerith all the way...❤

[@Arig16]

I have an alternative here, Zack x Cloud

[@DutchDread]

Well, luckily there is no choice, it's always Tifa and always will be Tifa. That's not me being insulting or denigrating, that's just the fortunate, or unfortunate depending on your view, fact of the story. Cloud loves Tifa, Darth vader is Lukes father, Bruce willis is dead in the 6th sense, Verbal Kint is Kaiser Soze, the titanic sinks. You can disagree about any of those things, but you'd be wrong.

[@YA-vs5wu]

don't worry if the leak for FF7 Rebirth is true then it does not matter, Zack will be with Aerith, and that leave Cloud with one option only Tifa !!!

[@dasmeister7502]

Kinda weird that they would remove your choice

[@TheHotMafia]

What leak? Do you have a link?

[@gibbs615]

Cloud really belongs with Tifa anyway.

[@pumpkinpie1509]

I mean cloud and tifa always end up together i cant wait to see cloud x tifa zack x aerith then maybe the cleariths will finally die out lol

[@linked2dio26]

Aerith is a the better girl, Tifa is the more attractive one.

[@BellowDGaming]

Tifa nuff said.

[@bummiefanart5636]

Well, I’m playing remake. I love Tifa. And I hope Cloud and Tifa are declared canon. But I fell for Aerith more. Dunno. There is something about her. The player falls in love with her somehow.

[@TiminyCrickets]

I def am into darker hair and features. Tifa always made me melt automatically. Her fighting style matches her passion/compassion. She's electric and how cool is that to have had that childhood connection! That's the beautiful redemptive love story that OG tells. Cloud, even in AC, his guilt over not being able to save Aerith... I never sensed it was romantic loss... but deep (albeit only like 43 days' worth of adventuring) friendship loss during the most intense period of all their lives.

[@Maria_00315]

TIfa but i like the motorcycle ride with Jessie :) if she a option ill consider her.

[@Flandreisher]

That’s easy yuffie

[@Grace-cs5sk]

Look don't come after me but I think Zack is a terrible boyfriend to Areith. I do like Zack but when he spent time with Aerith shinra would call and he would drop his quality time with her cause becoming a hero that girls could fawn over was more important to then if he was on a mission and she called him he'd say that he'd call her back/talk to her later then four years later once he and cloud have escaped Niblehim not once did he think that he should call Aerith and see how she's doing until he recived that last letter she wrote to him. But again this is just my opinion you don't have to agree

[@Ali-chan-r7w]

soy fan de zerith y clerith, mira antes pensaba igual pero luego volvi al juego de crisis core y Zack luchaba por los que amaba y apresiaba, pero especialmente luchaba por Aerith. Si, estaba ocupado pero siempre al terminar sus deberes iba a ver a Aerith. Ahora con lo de las cartas, Zack no estaba consiente de que habian pasado 4 años de estar encapsulado como un experimeto, el penso que al menos habia pasado unos dias o unas horas de estar alli, cuando ve la carta este se asusta de que pasaron 4 años sin verla y que esta le habia mandado mas de 80 cartas, es alli donde empieza a moverse para ir a ver a Aerith y es por eso que tambien murio ya que los turcos se habian puesto en su contra y literalemente todos los soldados fueron a matarlo. Ya cuando Zack esta debil este recuerda el por que lucha, por Angel, Cloud, Aquellos que conocio e hizo amistad y por ultimo Aerith que aparte de recordar su immagen su voz resonaba en su mente es alli donde da sus ultimas fuerzas para seguir luchando y poderla ir a ver. Luego ya apunto de morir va olvidando a las dos personas que apresia Cloud y Angel pero la que permanece aun en su mente es Aerith y cuento este esta postrado en el suelo y tiene al lado a Cloud le da una ultima peticion y es que le diga un hola por el (le dijo que saludara a Aerith en su nombre) y murio recordandola...

[@thatsruffdog]

"Biggs gets Jessie, Cloud gets Tifa, Aerith gets Zack and I get... paid. 😎 ... and also Aerith's mom. Fuck you, Aerith!" - _Wedge Antilles_

[@rodneymathews6775]

In the original game, it was Aerith. However, in Remake it's definitely Tifa. I was Team Aerith all the way until Advent Children and especially Crisis Core was released. It was really made clear in those two entries that Zack and Aerith were together. However, I'm really interested in seeing how Rebirth will shape up now that Zack is back! Can't wait!

[@Traigame2cervezas]

Cope, Cloud loves Aerith. And shes the main heroine and most important charscter. Tifa is a filler character done around Cloud, she doesnt even have her own reason as to join their journey, its just she's a wanted criminal 😂

[@EvelynL.1112]

How is Tifa a "filler character"? And why are you so hateful towards Tifa and Cloti fans? Why do you invade their videos to harass them? You're no different from the toxic Cloti fans.

[@bigbossj6995]

Actually, crisis core does count cause the ties in the events of the original ff7, not just the remake Because aerith Yes knew that Zack died, but she was in denial about it And what contradict your statement, in the original and remake of ff7, when she was a child. She approached her mother and eymra knowing and telling about her husband's death. In og ff7 The playground scene is implied that she knew Zack was gone. And when the original crisis core, not reunion came out, it was meant to tie in the events of original ff7. You can feel how you feel towards.That game I'm not here to change your mind on crisis core I'm just here to point certain things out.😊

[@The_Mammal_Man]

If we want to tie in Crisis Core to FF7 OG, Aerith's dialogue after meeting Zack's parents needs to change from saying he is missing, to he is gone (which is what mods are for). This is one of the many reasons why I'm very excited for the Gongaga scene with Zack's parents in Rebirth. Will Aerith acknowledge Zack as being missing or as being gone? She is very aware about some events that happened in the OG FF7. But we don't know how much she knows. I'm assuming she knows all of it, including about Zack, this time. And what about the new timeline where Zack is still alive? So many questions... and almost no answers... We'll just have to wait for a couple more months and see what happens

[@sootythunder3111]

@@The_Mammal_Man if i recalled correctly in the novella Maiden who travels the planet which takes place from Aeriths point of view after her death, she does encounter Zack in the lifestream and she first expresses shock that he is dead but then kind of retracts it saying it was more comforting to pretend he just found a happier life somewhere and was alive and well then acknowledge his death

[@austinjt4264]

Ariel never love Cloud. She loves Zack. Cloud has always had a crush on Tifa. Tifa herself always entangled & had attachment with Cloud... One could say, she somewhat waiting on Cloud to made a move. If you still can't chose, THEN I CURSE YOU TO NEVER FIND LOVE EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! And may all your relationship... FAILLLLLLLLLLLL!!!

[@megaaa4k]

play rebirth

[@Leescreativeart]

If you choose Aerith, you are choosing to be second fiddle, sloppy seconds, the second choice and the “eh, I got no other good options” option. If you choose Tifa, you are choosing the initial love of your life, your girl next door into reality, your soul mate and first choice. 🎉🎉❤❤ Team Tifa!

[@nachamu99]

Sloppy seconds, tf. Lol Let’s not degrade the characters that the devs poured their heart to work hard on, shall we? Also, why are you making fun of people who prefer or more attracted to Aerith? Just because someone was previously in relationship doesn’t mean they can’t love another. Feelings are complicated and being someone’s second love doesn’t mean the feelings for the new person is “cheapened.”

[@1ts_cecelia]

always have and will be team tifa but aerith is not sloppy seconds she’s very beautiful and kind and same with tifa

[@DayFul]

Tifa and Aerith are too thirsty so Yuffie gets to go on the gondola ride for being a much needed ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark story.

[@cho4d]

Can you give some examples of tifa being thirsty in the og game? She is reserved if anything. And what's more she doesn't even in to a jealous bitch when aeris shows up as a romantic threat. Tifa is based af.

[@yayab6378]

Tifa of course