Aesop Rock | Rickety Rackety (Reaction) Ft. El-P & Camu Tao

[@jeffp.9369]

In 2024, this lineup is a story of broken friendships and lineups. Camu Tao ("Cam-ooh, Tay-oh") died in 2008 El-P and Aesop Rock haven't seen eye to eye or worked on each other's projects since he died. That's not coincidence . Crazy since Aesop was signed to El's label from 2001 to 2008. This song has DJ BIG WIZ on Co-production and scratches. BIG WIZ was 1/3rd of Hail Mary Mallon plus Aesop's tour DJ until one day when Rhymesayers Entertainment told him "we don't need three people in the group anymore".

[@damienperry5758]

I never figured out what went down between El-P and AES, but I imagine it had something to do with their business arrangement with Def Jux. I get the feeling El-P leveraged some of AES’s music rights and it created some problems for him trying to figure out how to move beyond the label closing, but I really don’t know. Those are details they usually don’t disclose

[@jambulance]

@@damienperry5758the one thing people usually bring up is the posthumous release of Camu’s album since El-P wanted to bring it to the world, but allegedly Aes saw it as making a buck off of Mu. This is however all speculation and maybe some truth but I don’t really know for sure that’s just what I’ve read a few times. I guess both were grieving in different ways.

[@jeffp.9369]

​​@@damienperry5758I don't think music rights was an issue because even back in the early 2000s El-P had said in magazine interviews that part of being signed to Def Jux got you 100% rights to all your masters once leaving, which explains why the likes of Rjd2, Murs and even Aesop have mostly re-pressed or re-uploaded their Def Jux releases under different labels, if not just independently.

[@damienperry5758]

@jeffp.9369 I don’t know what happened, I just assumed it was something related to the label going defunct. I had no information to base my assumptions on, other than the fact that it happened around the time the label went belly up

[@brianhansen6189]

Check out Weathermen “Reports of a Possible Kidnapping”

[@GoodDocGonzo]

Ok ok ok I'l chime in. You know we love Aes, but now that we've had a taste of El-P I'd be game for some Run the Jewels. Where to start? For funsies, the opening track: "Run the Jewels" off the the first RTJ album of course! I'd also be down for tracks off the Aes + Rob Sonic "Hail Mary Mallon" collab

[@Therealnoshoes]

I'll take HMM suggestions any day of the week. There's been a lot of talk about El-P in the discord lately. I'll definitely be takin a closer look

[@JEStheUniversual]

EL-P is a genius and so is Rob. I’m always pushing more to react to their music.

[@seandarrow9854]

@@TherealnoshoesEl-P is great; and so is Run the Jewels. I like Rob also, but his stuff starts sounding samey to me after a while.

[@rage2904]

El-P - "True Story"

[@martynelson3013]

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[@brianhansen6189]

Aesop started moving away from multi track vocals with this EP in 2005.