ANGELS Vs ATRAXA (They did my Commander dirty) | March Of The Machine Lore

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@gothicsuperhero
@gothicsuperhero Жыл бұрын
I love that Atraxa died the way that she did. It was satisfying to see the people that she overlooked as mere ants cause her demise. In the end it was her own arrogance and selfrighteousness that killer. She literally was not paying attention to them or her surroundings. Hence the plan when off beautifully.
@Smartdudeguy
@Smartdudeguy Жыл бұрын
This. I actually like that Atraxa got her end that way. She didn't get a glorious death, but a death that would be unremarkable and unremembered.
@Drakelis
@Drakelis Жыл бұрын
Once you get past the arrogance of “this villain needed X sort of death” you do realize each Praetor and Atraxa die in a way inverse to their values. Sheoldred’s believed herself clever and her schemes and double play finally end with her being beheaded for Norn’s enjoyment, just as hundreds or thousands died in the arena for hers. Urabrask believed himself separated from the rest of Phyrexia and in death was split into four (one for each of the factions he “betrayed”) and his parts to be used for Norn’s Phyrexia. Vorinclex believed himself the Apex predator, best of the best, only to be killed by a nameless random soldier. Jin-Gitaxias felt that the natural world was beneath him, to the point he despised how messy and hungry green phyrexia always was, and he died just being food. Norn believed herself the Mother of Machines, and she was undone by the multiverse itself and finally ended by Karn, the true creator of Argentum, Mirrodin, and New Phyrexia.
@coltonjohnson390
@coltonjohnson390 Жыл бұрын
Nameless soldier is my fave character, no one else is as strong as nameless soldier that killed vorinclex
@AetherHub
@AetherHub Жыл бұрын
Uhh they had a name. Just no one knows or cares who they are and they will never be seen again. And also… they only kinda recalled her name… maybe? I jest and agree with you obviously
@geinerelizondo2019
@geinerelizondo2019 Жыл бұрын
@@AetherHub yea, why use Jor Kadeen or Melira when a random soldier could do the job.
@coltonjohnson390
@coltonjohnson390 Жыл бұрын
They were too busy scrubbing ajani’s taint ….of phyrexia
@michaelmaniloff9297
@michaelmaniloff9297 Жыл бұрын
@@geinerelizondo2019 they got so many writers, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the writers don't even know who those characters are.
@gaseday1
@gaseday1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine in like 3 sets a new planswalker releases and it’s the nameless soldier 😂
@Devilish420
@Devilish420 Жыл бұрын
New Capenna got those hands. No wonder Elspeth is as bad ass as she is. It was kinda anticlimactic how Atraxa got taken down though.
@tomcadden8054
@tomcadden8054 Жыл бұрын
You have really outdone yourself with this series, I always watch all your vids and have done for years, but this one is outstanding. Well done!
@ChristopherG1990
@ChristopherG1990 Жыл бұрын
Part of me wants to think Elesh Norn sent Atraxa to her death. She knew that plane defeated the Phyrexians before and we saw a hint of nervousness when she told Atraxa to go to Capenna. Norn saw her as a threat to her regime.
@m0ejo324
@m0ejo324 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense, after all she was the fusion of 4 colors for New Phyrexia and was more united than Elesh Norn.
@BDCMatt
@BDCMatt Жыл бұрын
Hasbro said, "We made our money, who cares how the story ends"
@Jejemoney07
@Jejemoney07 Жыл бұрын
This was what I was afraid of since War of the spark..... they hype the intriguing complex villains up, only turn around and plothole their downfall in 2 sets just to entice sales.
@SirPream
@SirPream Жыл бұрын
Not surprising that Hasbro would put -1/-1 counters on their story division so long as the cards are powerhouses. That said, the art with the vampire drinking from the phyrexian... I feel like Hasbro might be starting to tank their art funds too.
@natrivv9035
@natrivv9035 Жыл бұрын
Normally I would be more bothered by the ending, but we had an entire chapter dedicated to Atraxa losing her self control and destroying a museum because of the halo affecting her mind. Plus it does make sense that she leaves the average citizens to be taken care of by the average phyraxian, her goal was to found Giada not be a front line lackey
@mercilessnewt7242
@mercilessnewt7242 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they could have still stretched it a bit to give us more from Atraxa, instead of just a Game Over screen. She's the culmination of 4 of the 5 praetors for Christ's sake.
@natrivv9035
@natrivv9035 Жыл бұрын
Well Atraxa isn’t completely out of the story just yet, we still have Ixhel. A son who is definitely going to become a megalomaniac, and is definitely one of the characters I can see, still being functional, even with new phyrexia out. I can see him trying to remake Atraxa (in a fittingly horridly cruel fashion) just to get his mothers approval
@hrodvithit
@hrodvithit Жыл бұрын
With all this build up to the complete collapse, I feel just like Atraxa rn.
@Thoughtmage100
@Thoughtmage100 Жыл бұрын
Atraxa was shown the door. And the walls. And the pillars. And the girders. And the rebar. And the concrete. And all the art deco she hates so much.
@chexmix0101
@chexmix0101 Жыл бұрын
Why are people surprised that New Capenna did so well? We already from previous stories that halo is a good counter and that the angels defended the plane from phyrexian before.
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised. I just think that having angels from this plane we had never seen before be a complet counter to the Oil and flying through the Multiverse to destroy the Phyrexians to be a little cheap
@MrOfTheSea
@MrOfTheSea Жыл бұрын
​@@felipeguidolin1055 there has been build up, we just didn't know it was New Capenna. Elspeth's entire character is around the trauma of her childhood surviving phyrexians before.
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
@@MrOfTheSeaI agree about Elspeth! I was hoping she would kill big Momma herself. But New Capenna wasn't even a thing untill 2022. Nothing in the lore, nothing in flavor text. Every Elspeth card made before 2022 has text about Theros, Mirrodin, even Bant, but there is not a single mention of NC nowhere. It's a plane we visited only once, and suddenly it's the most important thing in the entire multiverse to solve something that's been happening since Mirrodin-block?
@acrolein1870
@acrolein1870 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrOfTheSea the big problem was the execution, i could have been more fleshed out
@PostprandialTorpor
@PostprandialTorpor Жыл бұрын
Listening to this all I could think about was that Urabrask and errant would both get along well together, and would have so much fun, creating all kinds of creations
@Rucarlos
@Rucarlos Жыл бұрын
This whole set is Phyrexians taking every plane in seconds, then getting easily beaten by plot armor and Deus Ex turn of events that make Urza and his band of pre mending walkers look like bums
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. The new Phyrexians are supposed to be better than the old ones but clearly you can just Chop off Vorinxlex's head and boom he dead. Even know in Kaldheim he was reduced to a puddle and still came back.
@JimJimTheMonkey
@JimJimTheMonkey Жыл бұрын
I think the new Phyrexians spread their forces to thin. If they had invaded one plane at a time then they would be far more successful. Elesh Norn's hubris is the true weakness of New Phyrexia.
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
@@JimJimTheMonkey how they spread too thin? They can infect a plane just by spitting black oil on one person. Its poor writing
@Tsukasa6669
@Tsukasa6669 Жыл бұрын
Because they dont know how to tell actual good stories anymore :(
@Skyfysh
@Skyfysh Жыл бұрын
They syphoned money intended for the story into designing 5 different variants of each chase card.
@mercilessnewt7242
@mercilessnewt7242 Жыл бұрын
They really didn't even give Atraxa a dramatic ending. They collapsed a building and said, "yeah, she died in there, somewhere..."
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for reading this for us Seiben! Because of how disappointed I am with this set, I plan to make a headcanon that's a much better ending, namely with the Praetors not being wrecked in such underwhelming ways. It's frustrating to see villains who were hyped for almost 15 years or so get destroyed by a random warrior, or having the big bad's right hand be crushed by a building. Just such a shame to have such a cool build up over all this time to have it mostly disappointingly ruined by the last two sets which were supposed to be the climax
@mrknarf4438
@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. I really liked the Praetors, New Phyrexia was so cool, setup back when they had time to write characters properly. It'd have been cool to see each praetor take over a plane (Vorinclex head of Ikoria? Gin Gitaxias of Kaladesh?) And seeing the planes warped by their ideologies. They were dismissed as if they were nothing: MtG seems to be good at establishing threats, but terrible at resolving them.
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer
@CharuzuAutomatonArtificer Жыл бұрын
@@mrknarf4438 Very true, seeing the Praetors ruling certain planes would be personal for the Planeswalkers as well, eg: Kaladesh would be devastating for Chandra, we would have weight to these actions seeing whole planes destroyed by the Phyrexians' power would show what's at stake and establish the idea that "Oh shoot, the Phyrexians have vastly improved their armies and respective factions in preparation over this massive gap in time"
@juliahenriques210
@juliahenriques210 Жыл бұрын
Guess this is where the War of the Spark curse returns. The moment the cute couple could have had their heroic sacrifice (which would have moved me), but didn't (which was incredibly meh, even with the father trope), was the moment they established that this is definitely pg13 Phyrexia. What a wasted opportunity. :/
@AetherHub
@AetherHub Жыл бұрын
They went sooooi hard early on too.
@mrknarf4438
@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын
A costless sacrifice is meaningless.
@raydelmartinez2905
@raydelmartinez2905 Жыл бұрын
I was definitely hoping for a different ending for Atraxa.
@alexsullivan323
@alexsullivan323 Жыл бұрын
Like her being cured?
@raydelmartinez2905
@raydelmartinez2905 Жыл бұрын
@@alexsullivan323 Yeah trapped in a halo stone or even purified. Or maybe become the new mother of machines on a different plain.
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
@@alexsullivan323 maybe a 1v1 epic combat against Elspeth, maybe overdosing on halo and killing herself when she realizes the monster she became, maybe being killed by a named character like Giada with the halo sword, maybe remaining alive and kicking until the Oil is "turned off" and then being destroyed by the populace...
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
It was a fitting end for a would-be tyrant: in ignominy and by lesser beings beneath her notice.
@mrknarf4438
@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын
@@mikotagayuna8494 ...but not a fitting end for such a powerful and beloved character, with hints of a more complex personality and the conflict of being a Phyrexian Angel.
@Teej_0
@Teej_0 Жыл бұрын
The fact that all of these planes are fairing so we'll against phyrexia just makes me wonder why the gate watch even needed to form a strike force
@DeadAccountdotdotdot
@DeadAccountdotdotdot Жыл бұрын
Plot
@Teej_0
@Teej_0 Жыл бұрын
@@DeadAccountdotdotdot bc we need 12 sets this year in stead of 9
@STS-qi1qy
@STS-qi1qy Жыл бұрын
The only example they had so far was the invasion of Mirrodin where Phyrexia *was* OP - but that was due to the way it happened. Turns out that doesn't translate as well to non-artificial planes that weren't built by Phyrexia touched individuals.
@Teej_0
@Teej_0 Жыл бұрын
@@STS-qi1qy it's also kind of funny how the grand strategist of phyrexia just oops all berries her way int9 getting her ass beat. Very strategic
@kiba6601
@kiba6601 Жыл бұрын
Rocks fall, Atraxa dies
@cisstudent9796
@cisstudent9796 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the Angels have got some serious balls to invade Phyrexia after fending off one invasion.
@StarkosiTV
@StarkosiTV Жыл бұрын
2*
@93izak
@93izak Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was waiting for this!
@guidocampostrini
@guidocampostrini Жыл бұрын
man, this video is really awesome
@one_bad_mofo8658
@one_bad_mofo8658 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think Elesh Norn sent Atraxa to New Capenna because of her fear of an Angel's power and what could be more powerful than a phyrexian angel such as Atraxa? How appropriate would it be that the plane where angels had defeated the phyrexians before would fall to an angel made by phyrexians, in Elesh Norn's mind. This ending doesn't bother me at all. I wish one of the more powerful angels or an entire flight be the one's to take Atraxa down but having the peoples of New Capenna desperately bring her down is honestly satisfying. The fact they reversed the invasion trees branch and used the portal to bring the fight to New Phyrexia? Balls. You guys rock!
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
The story started so well in all will be one Planeswalkers getting compleated, main characters dying and they ended it on such a weak note. These Praetors are obvious supposed to be superior to Yawgmoth yet the way they all went out was extremely underwhelming and disappointing.
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Жыл бұрын
I would've preferred teferi time bullshit like we all thought.......it's so horrendous.
@piercearora7681
@piercearora7681 Жыл бұрын
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 yeah. This is just "forget everything, they just lose. oh, they're supposed to be unbeatable? nah, we just beat them with the power of friendship or whatver"
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 HONESTLY and I thought they couldn't do any worse than that yet here I am proven wrong. The way Vorinclex was killed just dumb as hell Kaya did more damage to him on Kaldheim and he lived! Jin-Git's death was dumb as hell. Jace and Varaska just being written off like what none of this makes any sense at all. Instead of making a whole damn chapter about wrenn and the tree they could have done more with these deaths
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514
@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Жыл бұрын
@@frankmorris4603 I didn't know that virinclex and Jin got offed.
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Vorinclex got offed by a random ass angel no name for this angel just an angel. How dumb is that
@robertreed7767
@robertreed7767 Жыл бұрын
Super thanks for these!!
@GudHunterYT96
@GudHunterYT96 Жыл бұрын
Lore wise ain't new capena's angels supposed to be borderline God tier and don't intervene unless no other option?
@kimballblack2668
@kimballblack2668 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and there really isn’t any other option.
@GudHunterYT96
@GudHunterYT96 Жыл бұрын
@Kimball Black that's what I thought so idk why some people are upset New capena didn't fall and pyrexians were beat so easily here...the plane has angels with hax lol
@supercasualgamer513
@supercasualgamer513 Жыл бұрын
@@GudHunterYT96 exactly! I understand their perspective, to a degree. But they're kinda ignoring established lore
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 Жыл бұрын
@@supercasualgamer513 I just think those people are just fans of the bad Guys and wanted them to win .😂
@supercasualgamer513
@supercasualgamer513 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeltaylor788 that actually makes a lot of sense lol I didn't think about that 🤔 😂
@gmosTC
@gmosTC Жыл бұрын
I LIVE in your intro music. 🎵 🤘🏼
@STS-qi1qy
@STS-qi1qy Жыл бұрын
Slight correction: The angels didn't reverse the portals. Wrenn withdrawing Realmbreaker left the portals open (which means they might still be after the invasion is complete).
@henryterhune8328
@henryterhune8328 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Seiben!
@jrvazbakerboy
@jrvazbakerboy Жыл бұрын
Atraxa deserved a way better send off than this. A duel with angels and demons teamed up against her or with Elspeth. 😢
@bustedwolf
@bustedwolf Жыл бұрын
You could say the same about most of the characters that were killed off
@xxBurnsss101
@xxBurnsss101 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is how I feel about Urabrask
@Crimsonnavyking
@Crimsonnavyking Жыл бұрын
@@xxBurnsss101 All of the praetors honestly, Jin just dies by his own creations, Vorinclex get beheaded immediately, etc. Really lackluster storytelling.
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
This may be an unpopular opinion but I believe that these bloodthirsty, would-be tyrants deserved the deaths they had: in ignominy and by the hands of those they considered their inferiors.
@mrknarf4438
@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын
@@mikotagayuna8494 Strong disagree: powerful enemies should never be scoffed away easily. It's unsatisfying. I was rooting for them to win, but I would have settled for a dignified ending, going down swinging or being taken down by a brilliant plan by the heroes. This makes them feel like a joke, like they were no threat at all to begin with. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
@PallyKalhi
@PallyKalhi Жыл бұрын
"Everyone's favorite phyrexian angel-" Bold words sir, and while I am an avid hater of Phyrexia, I do hate how all of this is going down. As a fan of world of warcraft, I feel like this set's story is playing out much like the plot of Shadowlands. The big bad villains are crushing the heroes and winning effortlessly, crushing all forms of hope as the writers revel in their- aaaaaaaand the villains lose suddenly. How? I dunno, they just do.
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
The villains lost because of the actions of those they considered inconsequential. The heroes did not fight alone.
@PallyKalhi
@PallyKalhi Жыл бұрын
@@mikotagayuna8494 By "heroes" I ment the general protagonists, the good guys, everyone who isn't phyrexian or thoughtlessly joined them, but since we're here I want you to understand something. I think it would be stupid to assume the new phyrexians held even a candle to Old Phyrexia and Yawgmoth, I knew going into this that the phyrexians would get their heads kicked in, but the way they're rushing things presents the loses as hollow. Like, yes I knew New Capena would backhand Atraxa, I am fully aware that New Phyrexia would lose, but can they pace this out so we can savor the glory and the tragedy? Let me enjoy seeing theses idiots get what they had coming, not be a long winded checklist of planes losing then suddenly winning.
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
Good stories need time to develop organically. Even talented writers would be hard-pressed at the rate sets are being released. Lore is the first casualty of Hasbro's corporate greed.
@shocktech88
@shocktech88 Жыл бұрын
So the back story of the plan is angels and demons best the phrexians. Demons stayed around and angels got locked away. Angels come back, couldn't come up with anything cool involving them to beat Atraxa. Throw Halo on her making her all confused and crazy then have to beat her down. Just drop a building on her cool
@gordonbusseau9349
@gordonbusseau9349 Жыл бұрын
If you don't see a body, then she ain't been bodied
@emeraldknights9049
@emeraldknights9049 Жыл бұрын
They literally had to drop a city on atraxa to stop here 😂
@andyaknoby5007
@andyaknoby5007 Жыл бұрын
Love this city!
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
- So, how do write an ending to the story? - hum... Do you know that new plane, with the gangsters, that we have only seen once and nobody seemed to really care for it? - yes - Let's give them SUPER ANGELS! - ... - we can also have Zalfhir come back screaming "Wakanda forever", just like in Endgame! - You did it again, you genius!!!
@cheesy_87
@cheesy_87 Жыл бұрын
They had the angels from the very start of the new capenna story. This was actually set up well
@xlmao
@xlmao Жыл бұрын
@@cheesy_87 you must one of the genius writers
@cheesy_87
@cheesy_87 Жыл бұрын
@@xlmao I didn't say I like how easily new phyrexia was defeated on every plane. Some battles I liked, some I didn't. I didn't like that atraxa was so easily dispatched for example. I don't like how they set up New Phyrexia as this huge threat and then they don't show a single world that gets completely wrecked. But in terms of foreshadowing, in all rules of storytelling, the angels and Zhalfir make a lot of sense. You might not like it but it was still set up very early (heck, Zhalfir was preparing for the Phyrexian invasion sealed away in its bubble since how many real-world years ago?) so it's not a Deux ex machina moment. I am tired of all you people that don't know much about story structure and writing shouting phrases you read in a movie review section somewhere without knowing if they apply here. It was set up properly and made sense in-universe. Could and should there have been bigger consequences altogether? Could the writing have been better with bigger consequences, not just single individuals getting compleated? Definitely. But those two examples, Zhalfir and the Angels, it made sense. Many people where just mad that Emrakul didn't emerge. That wouldn't have made sense for the writers. You don't just sprinkle in an eldrazi titan. That's its own multiverse -spanning event that deserves similar build-up and card sets as the New Phyrexia story
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
@@cheesy_87 that's a very good response. I actually agree with almost everything you wrote. I also didn't want the return of Emrakul or Bolas (let them be their own thing). And Zhalfir coming back was a highlight in my opinion (although, let's face, the Marvel paralels are screaming at our face). My problem with the ending is the Angels of New Capenna. Why? To put it simply...NC was nothing until 2022. There were no mentions of that in flavor text, in lore, in nothing. It's a plane the visited only once, and the story there was very superficial (we were just following Elspeth and Giada). It just doesn't sit well with me that this "newbie" plane would have the perfect counter to a problem that has been brewing since the Mirrodin-block. It felt rushed. What was the point of Karn's sylex, and the Gatewatch attack team? Everyone could have stayed home, because their actions didn't amount to anything (the Angels were returning on their own). Hell, the planeswalkers might have even done more damage, because they gave Nissa to the phyrexians and she was the one responsible for "fine tuning" the branchs of Realmbreaker. Chandra and Wrenn were the only ones who did something useful. Could they have written the story to make Archangel Elspeth as being the responsible for waking up the Angels? That would at least justify the Gatewatch attack, because Elspeth needed to die, to be reborn, to bring the angels. I could buy that story. Anyway, I thought your comment deserved a more elaborated response.
@monkaeyes
@monkaeyes Жыл бұрын
Man I want more Ixhel...
@markpurdy5980
@markpurdy5980 Жыл бұрын
Where's Fblthp?
@Kokonutzlz
@Kokonutzlz Жыл бұрын
Have we had a Ravnica invasion story yet? 🤔
@tetrodotoxin9782
@tetrodotoxin9782 Жыл бұрын
I knew it, serra's sanctum is new capenna 😅
@nightowl0815
@nightowl0815 Жыл бұрын
what music do you use for your videos?
@jaredbledsoe-sams1361
@jaredbledsoe-sams1361 Жыл бұрын
6:02 that makes no sense, why would there be converter beasts when atraxa was their to genocide the plane? And Atraxa was completely wasted
@lennyfiasco9834
@lennyfiasco9834 Жыл бұрын
Did they ever say what was going on in Ravnica.
@obadijahparks
@obadijahparks Жыл бұрын
What would happen if someone's spark ignited while they were being converted? Imagine that while on the surgical table. Would that make them keep their mind?
@PrettierNPastel
@PrettierNPastel Жыл бұрын
They would planeswalk away before it was finished
@makeththeman9519
@makeththeman9519 Жыл бұрын
I would just like to point out that WOTC and Hasbro design all the cards, mechanics, and story for each set over a year in advance. Josh lee kwai proved this by having a copy of elesh norn, mother of machines for game knights a whole year before the release of AWBO. They have over a year to write a somewhat compelling story in most cases. In this case, they’ve had at least 3 years to design a compelling ending to the threat of phyrexia leading to this block, and this is the dogwater they gave us with all that time, A rushed mess and all those extremely threatening villains are reduced to nothing but minor obstacles for the heros. There’s been no real cost to this story, with the only expection being the wasted potential of what could have been a complete change to the somewhat stale MTG universe as we knew it in a positive way. Dominaria should have fallen to sheoldred, elesh norn should have ruled new phyrexia, Jin should have taken kamigawa as his own, vorinclex should have been dropped on kaldheim to destroy the remaining heros he could find there, atraxa should have been left to continue sending her legions to new capenna to farm halo and urabrask should have been on the run giving us the only glimmer of hope at stopping the phyrexians if the heros found him. Ending March of the machines that way would have made all seem lost, giving the heros only one last chance to attempt to take them down in aftermath.
@breadguytv
@breadguytv Жыл бұрын
They have really dropped the ball on the ending of this story.. how could they fuck it up so badly
@anonymous10099
@anonymous10099 Жыл бұрын
WotC hasn't been able to write a good story in decades. The last big one was original Kamigawa
@mikotagayuna8494
@mikotagayuna8494 Жыл бұрын
You can blame the abolition of the block system so they can release products faster, thus giving writers no time to flesh out any narrative in a compelling manner.
@starknight2262
@starknight2262 Жыл бұрын
The Angels of New Capena go to Theros where they help in the fight against the phyrexians invasion on Theros.
@cisstudent9796
@cisstudent9796 Жыл бұрын
I hope it's something like this rather than them simply joining Elspeth. I would love to see them help Bant fend off an invasion, recruit it's forces, then do the same across Alara, then liberate Kaldheim recruiting it's Angels, before finally charging New Phyrexia.
@starknight2262
@starknight2262 Жыл бұрын
@@cisstudent9796 Well, Not to spoil the story for you, All i can say is that Elspeth stays on New phyrexia while the angels of New Capena go to Theros to fight off the phyrexian invasion there. They choose Theros because it's the realm that needed the most help. That's really all i can tell you without going into spoiler territory.
@PrettierNPastel
@PrettierNPastel Жыл бұрын
​@@starknight2262well actually they go everywhere
@FriendofOnas
@FriendofOnas Жыл бұрын
So what I'm hearing is that Ashiok had nothing to do with it, yet my eyes see them?
@occasj
@occasj Жыл бұрын
Wait, they killed atraxa by dropping a building on her? I,I can't even right now. I guess next they'll just bring bolas back saying he regained his spark by killing ugin or fusing with him and leave it at that. Just, the fuck. I feel bad for atraxa
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
Same, they dropped a Titan of Industry on her and called it a day LOL How droll!
@Crimsonnavyking
@Crimsonnavyking Жыл бұрын
Heliod was just as anti-climactic; Kaya just climbs on top of him and slits his throat. They don't even explain why she is there when she was last seen defending Kamigawa.
@Bobbybillybillbob
@Bobbybillybillbob Жыл бұрын
Not sure how the five family's united, Maestro are out and Cabaretti is nowhere to be seen?
@headwyvern11
@headwyvern11 Жыл бұрын
"without much fanfare" umm they dropped a whole section of city on her... lmao
@noblebrit135
@noblebrit135 Жыл бұрын
So we know she’s dead( like we saw the body) or assuming she’s dead because a build was dropped on her?
@supercasualgamer513
@supercasualgamer513 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, idk how else they would've beaten Atraxa. She was likely more powerful than any other Phyrexian, in combat, including Norn. Remember, it wasn't just "a building" they dropped on her, it was AT LEAST an entire district of massive buildings AND she was weakened. Also, in my experience, this type of strategy is only used on threats they have no other means of dealing with Atraxa was too strong for the angels to fight, even with demonic help. And why would they ever accept the demon's help again... it went terribly, last time I would've preferred if Elspeth fought and killed Atraxa, as she's certainly strong enough. Or even having Atraxa be restored to an Angel. But I understand them nuking her instead There were only a few entities capable of dealing with Atraxa and none of them were on New Capenna 🤷‍♂️
@gaseday1
@gaseday1 Жыл бұрын
Them reverting her would hv been so cool, then we can hv remnants of phyrexia. I feel like we didn’t get anything cool out of this set, all praetors died and all phyrexians trapped in one place. Even the walkers that survived got reverted to normal, didn’t even keep the phyrexian look…
@supercasualgamer513
@supercasualgamer513 Жыл бұрын
@@gaseday1 did they revert the walkers?? How?? I haven't looked, yet 🤦‍♂️
@felipeguidolin1055
@felipeguidolin1055 Жыл бұрын
@@supercasualgamer513 Karn used his (formerly venser's) spark + melira powers to revert the completion of Nissa and Ajani, Tamyio is reborn as an hologram/spirit, Vraska and Jace are living inside their minds (I guess, it's difficult). So far only Tibalt and Lukka have been really killed.
@supercasualgamer513
@supercasualgamer513 Жыл бұрын
@@felipeguidolin1055 wow lol
@mrknarf4438
@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын
I think in combat Vorinclex may be superior (he's the head of the faction whose motto is Survival of the Strongest, after all) but she may have more powerful magic, being a multicoloured angel and all.
@SerifSansSerif
@SerifSansSerif Жыл бұрын
So.... 1930's art deco meets Splatoon?
@TheAmighty
@TheAmighty Жыл бұрын
Maestros just keep getting recked
@Vrigan
@Vrigan Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, Seiben, but I am starting to be very pissed off and annoyed at their story-telling format. Part of me knows even with 18 stories there's not enough room for everyone and everything to be fleshed out, and it's the problem. The fact they constantly restrain themselves, not allowing enough room to tell the story properly is truly annoying, because it is something they could change if they wanted to. I liked Rivera's style and she I feel like she did a good job at writing down the story, but the format is the problem. You do not kill off such an important character like Atraxa "offscreen" if there isn't a massive, fair reason behind it, you just do not. Any lambda, wannabe writer knows this
@voidmaster6353
@voidmaster6353 Жыл бұрын
Atraxa is no more and SO WILL ELESH!!
@beelor5777
@beelor5777 Жыл бұрын
Wotc teasers: Planar wide invasions with phyrexia where where everything will change and a lot of deaths What we really get: eh phyrexia invades and are stopped by the people on that plane. Dominaria and mirrodon are just weak. Oh those deaths are all phyrexians.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
Whack. I was hoping that Atraxa would be ''changed'' (like her angel self would awaken, maybe even have a chat with Serra who converts her), kill the praetors except for Urabrask, ultimately take Phyrexia over and enter into a ''peaceful'' reign realizing that if they continued attempting to take over other planes of existence it would lead to their ultimate demise. Why do they have to be so one note? Even enemies change :P
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
Urabrask died off camera his death wasn’t even worth mentioning
@Kokonutzlz
@Kokonutzlz Жыл бұрын
I was also thinking about if the angel still inside Atraxa could have been awakened after being exposed to Halo
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
@@frankmorris4603 LOL Forgot about that
@reubenfromow4854
@reubenfromow4854 Жыл бұрын
Local lesbian obliterates phyrexia with this one neat trick! Abominations hate her!
@thomascaldwell2567
@thomascaldwell2567 Жыл бұрын
I am very disappointed at how Atraxa was defeated. I wanted to see a huge battle like all 5 houses, the angels, and 1 or 2 planeswalker to take down Atraxa. With them constantly showering Atraxa with Halo to weaken her enough to kill her. Not crushed by a building
@matthewrobinson279
@matthewrobinson279 Жыл бұрын
Facts. Halo and bad writing become the plot armor for this entire story. saw a meme making reference to Zhalfir and a certain marvel movie and i thought it was hilarious. War of the spark all over but maybe more disappointing. I mean literally. HEY LOOK OVER THERE. smh. I dont know whats worse leia casually running away from adults with ease in obi wan or this nonsense.
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
Halo and apparently out of thin air a Planeswalker could be uncompleated even though in the story before this they said otherwise like none of this made any sense. I was ready for certain Planeswalkers to be dead for good. Hell they did it with Tamiyo but now suddenly we can just umcompleate things.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Жыл бұрын
@@frankmorris4603 Tamiyo exists as a computer program now, a ghost in the machine LOL :P
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Lmao that was funny. She dead as well with no shoes on in her casket 😂. If she gets a spirit form as a creature thats fine she’s in Kamigawa that tends to happen there but im glad she wasn’t uncompleated or written off like Jace and Varaska
@gannonkendrick9343
@gannonkendrick9343 Жыл бұрын
​@@frankmorris4603 You didn't even bother to read that blurb, did you? They clearly established in the narrative that the way they uncompleated Ajani was by replacing his spark (Karn had to lose his planeswalking) and killing Melira. It was a wholly impractical process and had great sacrifices. They even wondered aloud what the point of it was, since it wouldn't be practical for a whole population, and only applied to planeswalkers, whose compleation process is completely different from a regular person's (due to needing to preserve a spark, which is tied up in the soul, which is normally removed or harmed through the compleation process. To reiterate, we had FOUR planeswalker deaths, maybe five, all but one of which were compleated planeswalkers that died because nobody saw a way to save them (the other being Wrenn).
@frankmorris4603
@frankmorris4603 Жыл бұрын
​@@gannonkendrick9343 Venser gave Karn his Spark but for Nissa and Ajani it was plot armor bullshit. The whole ending was to this story was plot armor bullshit.
@Gizado
@Gizado Жыл бұрын
I have few questions. Are all Praetors dead? If they are all dead who will be the main villain? I assume all planeswalker who are completed will be cured and good again. To me that is lazy writing. Really can't belive they killed all of them or almost all.
@UserNameMandatory
@UserNameMandatory Жыл бұрын
New Capenna is not a city plane. It is supposed to be a protected city on a regular plane. The limited reach of the protection forced the city to grow vertically. How have the new Phyrexians entered the city that was able to keep Phyrexians out before? I thought that the trapped angels got free at the end of the New Capenna story. But when Atraxa showed up in this story, they were still statues.
@UserNameMandatory
@UserNameMandatory Жыл бұрын
@@kms199x2 the answer being that their story writing is disjointed?
@lordiofchaos4856
@lordiofchaos4856 Жыл бұрын
Well... They have failed the war of the spark, what did we expect. Now phyrexia falls apart, like it is nothing. And I expected something much cooler then old phyrexia, that could surpass Yawgmoth. Ah well, mama is beaten, her angel is crushed. So anticlimactic.
@michaeltaylor788
@michaeltaylor788 Жыл бұрын
They said this is the end of phyrexia story so of course they would fall apart maybe the story could been better yes but it’s the end they might never come back.
@lordiofchaos4856
@lordiofchaos4856 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeltaylor788 yes, true. But to end it with only plot armour and deus ex. Come on! There could be more interesting ways to deliver an end or spice things up. It would be fun to see emrakul awake again, for example. After all the story of Urza and old Phyrexia is much more compelling? than this one.
@cheesy_87
@cheesy_87 Жыл бұрын
Old phyrexia was much more powerful than new phyrexia. They went head to head with pre-mending planeswalkers. The new ones are essentially just Borg drones.
@Jejemoney07
@Jejemoney07 Жыл бұрын
It genuinely feels as if Wotc handed the story to a bunch of Ryan Johnsons that cared next to nothing about lore, continuity, past, or present character development. They've done so many characters, both righteous and evil, so dirty in this long-term built-up short-lived arc alone that it feels like they genuinely tried to be disrespectful to their fanbase. Almost like they're saying, "We don't need long term, or old school fans that love the story, as long as we keep rotating in new players with face value catering, it won't matter how plotholed our story is. We'll still make money."
@Someone-lg6di
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Thats been the8r plan since ravnica i belueve
@degenermights2427
@degenermights2427 Жыл бұрын
Moral of the story, be gay do crimes
@yawg691
@yawg691 Жыл бұрын
I love your summaries and reading but man do I hate what happened to this story in the last day or two lol ugh
@Case2_0
@Case2_0 Жыл бұрын
Ayyyyyy
@hyoroemongaming569
@hyoroemongaming569 Жыл бұрын
Bruh wizard havent post lore in their website since end of January, suddenly they drop 12 stories in 2 weeks 😧 Too rushed instead of 2-3 per weeks
@isaacsmith3998
@isaacsmith3998 Жыл бұрын
Its a shame our first trip to NC was entirely taken up by planeswalker action. I don't know or care about any of these characters. They weren't part of any previous narrative.
@cossakrose
@cossakrose Жыл бұрын
Jeez, this has to be the weakest chapter so far in the MOM storyline. Her dads compleation/having to kill him felt so hollow, likewise Atraxa's death just as cheap and hollow. If anything it felt like this author was just trying see how many time they could force the words "her wife" into the story. Even other stories that have centered around heterosexual or homosexual relationships haven't tried forcing it this hard!
@lordofsalem3
@lordofsalem3 Жыл бұрын
They’re kinda dropping the ball with the last couple excerpts. I feel like this finale is going to be kinda crap
@gxt3900
@gxt3900 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy these uploads, you do great with them, but this story was.. bad. they've been getting worse and worse, this one I just zoned out though. a shame. Keep up the great work on your part though!
@Itachi45481
@Itachi45481 Жыл бұрын
Really Atraxa got an offscreen death that's just rude to a cool card and character not even last moment contemplations from her that's disappointing
@BathrobeKeck
@BathrobeKeck Жыл бұрын
sorry bud, but no. they did NOT "do your commander dirty" Atraxa got what she deserved. honestly, she deserved FAR worse. as did ALL of the phyrexian adherants. sear the flesh and melt the metal into slag. For Mirrodin. For the Multiverse. FOR KARN!!!!!
@Brando88Kern
@Brando88Kern Жыл бұрын
How middling.
@Aeveros
@Aeveros Жыл бұрын
I know it's an unpopular opinion, but the number of homosexual couples in the multiverse seems seriously disproportionate to the real world. I have no problem with the LGBTQ community, but it just takes away from the story and makes it feel less real. I'm all for diversity, but MTG has skewed a bit too far lately.
@chadmrrsn
@chadmrrsn Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@vudoga6082
@vudoga6082 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie this story was a bit disappointing. Atraxa deserved to go out better.
@CAVETROLLTRON
@CAVETROLLTRON Жыл бұрын
I thought nothing would ever be as bad as the War Of The Spark story but here we are. This is a poorly written fan fiction at best.
@jocas94
@jocas94 Жыл бұрын
Man this entire story was such a let down. This is the last time I grt gaslighted by WotC with those cheesier than disney plot
@teknyte-1
@teknyte-1 Жыл бұрын
What a disappointing story
@coebaltraizure6137
@coebaltraizure6137 Жыл бұрын
We get it hasbro. You like lesbians. Call me when you're brave enough to do two big gay bears.
@dmv99
@dmv99 Жыл бұрын
Any TERRIBLE story. Wizards is slowly killing the game. How can they give her a MONSTROUS card last set and have her die like that?!
@HiddenOcelot
@HiddenOcelot Жыл бұрын
Tbf even the strongest mages can't survive a whole city hitting them on the head, remember when Jace got beat by a two headed troll?
@SomethingLog
@SomethingLog Жыл бұрын
7/7 isnt indestructible
@UMNightlife
@UMNightlife Жыл бұрын
LAME. Phyrexia should have won, the walkers left alive should have sought out Ugin and Nicol Bolas for help and then it would be an epic battle.
@HiddenOcelot
@HiddenOcelot Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that emrakul is still alive, and in the moon of inistrad right now
@l33_generic37
@l33_generic37 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Bolas would somehow get his spark back and take over Phyrexia for himself. Imagine a compleated Bolas leading the charge.
@markdovico9531
@markdovico9531 Жыл бұрын
Don’t care much for this story arc
@konstantinkrastev4478
@konstantinkrastev4478 Жыл бұрын
kinda of boring all of these stories have no bite to them, nothing is happening nothing is changing
@felipelanverly
@felipelanverly Жыл бұрын
Man, i absolutly love your channel, but the WOTC become very lazy at the end of this lore.
@benmeaige4306
@benmeaige4306 Жыл бұрын
Pretty bad chapter in the story.
@thecoopaloop99
@thecoopaloop99 Жыл бұрын
Is everyone gay now?
@kylerunkle4398
@kylerunkle4398 Жыл бұрын
Each side story is getting worse and worse. The writers for this Arc really screwed up IMO after doing so well starting in Kamigawawa. I personally am not a fan of this story anymore. God awful
@joshuaritter9747
@joshuaritter9747 Жыл бұрын
Worst story so far
@pounceysilverkitten
@pounceysilverkitten Жыл бұрын
This was terrible story
@witchivy5905
@witchivy5905 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see a LGBT couple make it to fight another day. However this dose feel like a quick unearned death for Atroxa
@Urabrask
@Urabrask Жыл бұрын
Magic Sopranos 1 - Metal Evangelicals 0
@mega2009man
@mega2009man Жыл бұрын
It's a huge weight off my heart knowing Perrie is alive and okay. Especially after I just lost Brimaz 🥲😢
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