NEW PHYREXIAN GOD?!? (How Was Heliod COMPLEATED?) | March Of The Machine Lore

[@AetherHub]

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[@dansaucedo7201]

Theros resistance Will pray for help, gideon statue as a symbol,and the gideon returs as a New god of theros, inmune to phyresis because his devotion is opposite to phyrexia ideals. And now gideon finds himself as one of the gods the he hated once.

[@TheSwordsman100]

Heliod wasn't responsible for the death of Gideon's friends, while he did make Gideon his champion and sent him on a quest to stop one of Erebos' minions from wreaking havoc, (honestly like one of the few times Heliod actually fits what he supposedly stands for) it was Gideon, who became arrogant over his victory, that decided to attack Erebos himself and thus lost his friends via his own attack being thrown right back at him.

[@elihall6480]

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[@ToonLinksDair]

Kruphix knew about the Phyrexians long ago (he knows everything that is known to anyone in Theros), once planeswalkers who had encountered them arrived. I will be very disappointed if this did not result in any kind of plan and we just see Theros being steamrolled. I will be disappointed if the writers forgot about that Kruphix side story.

[@AetherHub]

That would be sad. I believe they will brush over it though…

[@juliahenriques210]

@@AetherHub To be fair, Kruphix said Theros could fall to Bolas, to the Eldrazi, and to Phyrexia. That said, as soon as each Phyrexian sets foot on the plane, Kruphix instantly knows everything they know. THAT would be one of the plot devices I'd use to counteract Phyrexia, with Theros in time becoming a focal point in the war. The longer they fight on Theros without compleating Kruphix, the worst the outcome of the war becomes for the Phyrexians. In the end they'd succeed, but not before the "Codex of Kruphix" is written and passed down throughout the Multiverse. "What could have been written in that book? Who would be able to make sense of it all? Find out in the next chapter of the Aether Hub." Pity they'll probably go for something way less elaborate, though.

[@grandspellcaster5761]

He's also one of the two gods of Theros that doesn't need faith to exist. Between Kruphix and Klothys the two of them can defend the plane. Absolute worst case scenario, Kruphix can close Nyx off from the world, stoping the gods from fighting and Klothys can write the phyrexian's fate to be failure. This is where the Demigods they introduced can com in. Then the nyxborn wil come into play creatures of uncorruptable devotion, made with the purpose of stoping the Phyrexians, perhaps led by the 5 demi-gods. He also, notably, controls distance on Theros. As phyrexian armies march to the Poli, Kruphix can make their marches take months while the defenders are able to retreat nearly indefinitely.

[@D-Skotes]

@@juliahenriques210 Or him knowing what they know might make him see the glory of Phyrexia (Similar to how as soon as Urza saw it he fell to his knees ready to suck off Yawggers.)

[@violeth2255]

If I had to guess, Helios was probably released from his imprisonment at Kruphix's insistence the moment the first Phyrexians stepped onto the plane. By Kruphux's own admission, Theros is doomed against Phyrexians, Bolas, and/or the Eldrazi. He'd know that they'd need every possible heavy hitter to just put up a fight for a time.

[@D-Skotes]

Ajani went from trying to spread Atheism to beating the gods with the transitive property of math.

[@AetherHub]

Lmfao. The equation that proves the absence… what a BOSS

[@Arkzard]

​@@slayzytown eldrazi are probably immune to the oil

[@slayzytown]

@@Arkzard thanks 😊

[@waluigisbizzareadventuresi1430]

He's beating them with facts and logic.

[@acrolein1870]

What u gonna do when math destroys you, xD

[@mr.nutcracker8957]

"Elspeth! You did it! You killed the Compleated Heliod!" "... He was Compleated...?"

[@AetherHub]

LMFAO 😂😂😂

[@darklightmagus1222]

It would be really great that if and when the Phyrexians get pushed out from Theros and if Guideon's statue remains standing, somehow stories and faith in his indestructibility and endurance can give rise to a new hope like a new dawn. In turn, the devotion would cause a mirror entity of Guideon to ascend as the new Sun God of Theros. Now that would be a nice side story for Chandra and/or Elspeth to venture into to investigate during the reconstruction of Theros after the Phyrexian invasion.

[@AetherHub]

I actually love this theory!

[@lazyprinny3265]

Leliana seeing. That statue would be nice as well

[@ChristopherG1990]

Ajani: We compleated the gods of Theroes. Elesh Norn: Good work, I’m still the mother of machines to them right? Right? *nervous padme amidala smile. Ajani: *that anakin stare from the meme.

[@AetherHub]

Lmfaooo

[@mr.nutcracker8957]

Meanwhile, Yawgmoth is laughing from the sky

[@arridueldes5638]

@@mr.nutcracker8957 Well now you've given me a terrifying thought, if you get enough Dross pit aligned Phyrexians on Theros who still see themselves as heirs to Yawgmoth, then have them compleat people and spread belief in the original Father of Machines, would that Devotion create some sort of manifestation of Yawgmoth?

[@SabreAran]

Does Ajani like sand? >.>

[@arridueldes5638]

@@SabreAran Wow, twofer Skyrim and Star Wars reference there given he is basically Khajiit

[@cjlauze5977]

I just had a nifty thought at the end of the video. What if, after the gods turned on the people, they start looking toward a hero of Theros for protection? I know it probably won't happen, but what if at some point Gideon gets revived as a god due to his stories and exploits? That was just a really cool idea I thought of at the end.

[@DestroAzureDx]

An even better thought, if liliana visited theros and spread his stories herself

[@willrobin7784]

I came here to say this!!! I hope this is what happens.

[@oliveragag8576]

Gids, God of Brawny Decidedly Male Types.

[@stratavosstuff7575]

@@oliveragag8576 straightener of lesbians. He likely would be much better to the people than Heliod had been...

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

I came to comment this too. i'd love for Gideon to return as a god.

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

Very nice way to recap the Theros Storyline while making the connection to the current Phyrexian line going on ... thanks for the great content 👍🏻

[@AetherHub]

High praise. Thanks so much!!

[@davidchan3781]

Kruphix was already terrified about Nicol Bolas and phyrexians. Considering he is the god of the unknown, he'll probably have some sort of contingency set up. Same with Erebos and Athreos hopefully. Phenax and Mogis probably not.

[@AetherHub]

Depends on if any can mount a defense. It’s still to be seen

[@MrNone-d5s]

​@@AetherHub Lol no! Wokesters of the Coast reboot their own writhing to suit their bullshit😂. Kruphix already stated that non of the Theros gods can match Phyrexia.They made Elesh Norn afraid of basic ass plainswalker despide she already beaten Elspeth before😂😂. The writhing of those idiots has gone downhill

[@liminal_entity1331]

Somewhere, in the darkest recesses of the collective mind, Ashiok cackles in maniacal delight.

[@EpicCrossovers]

So Gods of Theros are basically influencers. They lose enough followers, they die

[@Liam-xo5ec]

I would like to point out that only two gods on Theros know about the other planes, for good reasons too and now I think it's safe to say the other gods now know about the rest of the multiverse

[@AetherHub]

Yeah they are learning a harsh lesson. But what can Kruphix do with his knowledge..?

[@dannybeane2069]

So...if elesh norn came to Theros. She'd almost immediately be trapped in the sky of Nyx as a God because she commands the devotion of not just Theros; but billions across the multiverse. That might actually be a solution to slowing her down. Not sure if that would be good or bad, but ya know, could work. Ironically lowering her power to that of a God

[@gawbe]

I grew up reading the Magic Novels and learning the stories that way. It made the cards so much more meaningful. I have seen the pile grow slower and slower through the years to the point where some sets/blocks had zero source material for me to bite into. The story of Theros is incredible and I hope wizards won't mess up returning there. Great coverage as always!

[@nicholasdickson8698]

Hopefully Elspeth can get her revenge on Heliod

[@AetherHub]

I would say its very likely. Now Heliod is BOTH of the things Elspeth DESPISES in life.

[@ninjaman0003]

maybe i'm weird but i'm genuinely hoping march of the machine isn't the end of the phyrexian threat. i'd love to see singular sets based on the phyrexian invasion on a few planes, see how they fight and possibly lose, and then a wrap up set akin to avengers endgame.

[@yukineghostking2127]

I reall enjoyed you pointing out Gideon and his tomb at the end. Now that planes litterally touch and knowing how devotion on theros works, there is NO way of him not becoming a god. And honestly? He deserves it.

[@starknight2262]

GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK SEIBEN. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK.

[@AetherHub]

Can always trust on you in the comments. Thanks man :)

[@yungo1rst]

so the planeswalkers that have been compleated so far are heading the effort to compleat the planes. Lukka might have easier time going to each major creature of the Ikoria region, further working the mutate mechanic versus humans. nissa and nahiri can destabilize zendikar or channel it into their own works of the land elementals. not sure who would be heading eldraine effort. a wildcard for later would be souls to guard planes like the guildpact did in the past.

[@MrRaisinBran]

One of the planes on the invasion list was Lorwyn. I imagine the thoughtweft is redundant to phyrexians, who already seem to have a shared mind sort of thing going on.

[@AetherHub]

That’s true. Maybe they’ll see it as an added benefit though. Corrupt a singular Kithkin and you Compleat them all?

[@dacksonflux]

You made this very digestible. At first I couldn't imagine justifying the Compleation of a god other than "Ooooh scary." But no, that actually kinda makes sense. Good job.

[@AetherHub]

Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it 😍

[@TheOuroboros84]

same here! I felt it was so forced...but if it's essentially done through the faithful, it kinda makes sense.

[@zeropoint2594]

I´m wondering could it be possible for that monument of Gideon to replace Heliod as a God, since everyone who knew Gideon sees him as a hero they would call out for such a Hero when the Phyrexians attack which could result in creating an idealised Image of Gideon

[@reddrake40]

I’m not entirely sold on all of Theros being compleated, Purphoros is the of the forge and craftsmanship which are very much aspects of individuality and Phyrexia seems to have trouble suppressing that

[@adriangalan29]

Am I the only one thinking about Gideon's revival through devotion?, It may be the ascension of a new Sun God/ Planeswalker.

[@tegel619]

Gideon's memory is forever engraved on the front of a Hot Pocket box.

[@0whatman]

I think the writers should be carefull with how far this all spreads; restrict it to a few worlds at first make worlds like theros resist it more thanks to various factors allow for some way to completely rid some of the planes of it (like a new god of purity on theros or something, hestia based white god anyone?)

[@markie1104]

great vid as always! Love watching these with my lunch 😊

[@Seelenverheizer]

Gideon might be reformed as a god on theros, the god of defience/ heroism

[@josephberg3836]

My hypothesis for the future of this set is definitely split between 2 either A. another time warp B. Phyrexia gets invaded by the eldrazi now that jace, nissa and nahiri are compleated, and the planeswalkers are stuck in between a 2 way planewar

[@luketfer]

Honestly I'm really hoping that, since the teaser trailer showed off Innistrad, that the Phyrexians invade...and then the moon shatters and Emrakrul and suddenly the Phyrexians realize that they aren't the biggest or the baddest thing in the multiverse...

[@josephberg3836]

@@luketfer if there’s a phyrexianized eldrazi I’ll be able to retire from mtg happy

[@23yendou]

this marks the end of mtg for me. im sad where the writing went. thank You for your lore videos and take care

[@themachine7534]

Its just getting good with one bro

[@23yendou]

what is good about it? nevermind. dont want to argue. its simply not for me anymore,but i dont want to destroy it for others who still enjoy.If You like it,im happy for You

[@themachine7534]

@@23yendou fair enough , just saying the story with all will be one is good , and likley going to cause a big refresh of the story with new main planeswalkers imo

[@toast9694]

We might see Ashiok get involved. Phyrexia taking over the planes would mess with his nightmare juice.

[@ChristopherG1990]

They’re already involved. They messed with Elesh Norn’s head, telling her that Elsepth is her greatest threat.

[@DestroAzureDx]

Speaking of which similar to how the faith got compleated Ashiok could get compleated the same way OR they're immune to getting compleated because theres no way to compleat nightmares within phyrexians themselves.

[@AaronJustice]

Thanks for posting

[@AetherHub]

Of course. Hope you enjoy the video!

[@Stoicgame]

From a writing perspective I actually hate this. It equates all individuals faith to a pure numbers game. Implying that those with the strongest faith who need their god the most have little to no power against obvious heretics. It opens so many holes in the mythos of the plane that it completely unravels from just a tiny amount of inspection. Wouldn’t knew, weaker gods be appearing all the time? Wouldn’t the current gods personalities and styles be changing all the time? Before this point why haven’t we heard of any other fallen gods, whose flock abandoned them? Does the god not influence their flock in any way? People turn to gods for direction, a god whose whims change with the times wouldn’t exactly rake in the followers. This decision was clearly made to answer the question how would Theros be attacked, rather than what impact would this have narratively for the plane. It’s all flash, with little to no depth.

[@AaronJustice]

Do you think Nicol Bolas will be needed to stop the phyrexian threat? If so, do you think Tezzeret was playing the long game by helping the phyrexians gain momentum to that end? This is a very interesting arc.

[@AetherHub]

I have no clue. But a team up of Bolas and Ugin would be cool! Remember Bolas isn’t a Planeswalker anymore and lost a lot of power. But still he is very very smart.

[@stargateshooter]

I doubt it will happen, but with Tamiyo being completed and leaks showing the Phyrexians on Innistrad what if the Eldrazi are released? Imagine PHYREXIAN Eldrazi, or at least Eldrazi fighting Phyrexia.

[@AaronJustice]

@@stargateshooter that could mean a bunch more phyrexian horrors. Although one of the Eldrazi titans drains everything to dust, even turning the lands to wastes. Hopefully that titan could slow the glistening oil down. Although there's a lot I don't understand, it's fun to speculate with everyone. Cheers!

[@stargateshooter]

@@AaronJustice I totally agree. I don't even know which force would be more powerful at that point let alone how the hero's would fight it, but I'd be cheering it all the way!

[@Fearienify]

I dont think a nameless powerless dragon thats permanently sealed with Ugin as the plane itself will be needed for anything

[@CowKilla9]

OOOOH I like what you did there at the end. What if the citizens of Theros manage to use the faith to give the plane a NEW White aligned GOD that would be of the great fallen hero Gideon!!!

[@luchorivadeneira3616]

While this works in theory, I still have some issues: - Norm as mother of machines coexisting with a white aligned god. - Heliod being white/blue given Gitaxias and his phyrexians are creatures of science. I feel like Heliod and Omnath are compleated for shock value without considering anything else. Some writer will fix it later.

[@marcwilliams1942]

Great video!

[@FearThePegasus]

I got teary-eye with the thought of Gideon coming back as a God to repel the Phyrexians.

[@mega2009man]

The major gods already have 2 cards each, Heliod has 3, so if we see more gods in the set it better be the minor ones. Minus red/green cuz Xenagos was the other and Athreos also has 2 so the last 8 gods need to get a card too

[@Dukeburr]

I'm more curious if this means we're going to get a rushed solution to all this or were going to have to deal with a few years of phyrexians in literally every set, and walkers never coming back: if the problem is solved or these walkers coming back again and again but just still evil brainwashed phyrexians. It's either going ti have a rushed possibly unsatisfying conclusion or get old real fast.

[@Enja_Near]

Don't need phyrexians to be the villain in every set. Whatever they do to stop Elesh Norn can cause Phyrexians to go away, but leave the Oil behind. This allows Phyrexia to show up every now and then, possibly even give these New New Phyrexians a W to showcase they are still a real threat.

[@BDrumev001]

I still do not understand how the new Heliod is not indestructible.

[@AetherHub]

I can only assume he lost it when so many followers began to be Compleated. Not enough devotion. No indescribability

[@sewykik5004]

seems like other gods are compleated as well- on the flavor text of one of the common dual lands, it says that the seas of theros run with oil and the sky is darkened due to the compleation of the gods

[@DDDHunter]

Something interesting would be if all this worshiping of compleation on Theros brought forth a new god of Phyrexia. Or rather, the rebirth of an old one. Won't be surprised in the Father of Machines knew of the plane and set up this as a backup plan.

[@spg225]

I appreciate everything you do!

[@MrSkabrus]

I have the theory that with march of the machines MTG is purging the planes they don´t need to avoid return to them and also create a story arc not so centered on planeswalkers

[@byronsmothers8064]

Looking at the warped eclipse, I can't help but see some design parallels with consecrated sphinx, but that's just me sharing my thoughts.

[@dragoflair3495]

I hope kruphix recognizes the threat and tries to organize the gods to save their realm, maybe a new card for him even, since he didn't get much spotlight

[@LSRibs]

I love Theros and would hate to see it end. With that said, I am surprised that they didnt play off of the devotion aspect more. Xenagos ascended because he realized devotion of followers gave the god's their power, or at least that is how I have understood it. I always thought that, should phyrexia invade, there would be a new "Phyrexian God" that would be created because of their devotion to perfection.

[@ricardocalderon4908]

Really hoping we get to see Hazoret again in March of the Machines, and I'm REALLLY hoping she isn't compleated. That would be such a worthless use of the character.

[@jasoncummings1970]

It makes sense for the Greek-inspired plane to fall to the villainous faction that uses a Greek letter as their insignia.

[@stephenboerner251]

That last bit Abt Gideon was unnecessary and heartbreaking, thanks 👍 great vid as always. Side note I'd love a satisfying conclusion to Elspeth and daxos's story speaking of tragedies of theros :'(

[@blacktiger0095]

The flavor text is actually pretty cool.

[@TheMangakid1995]

So what are the odds that they finally release the Theros Beyond Death story content they've been promising for so long as a special March of the Machines prelude

[@qaztim11]

1% chance

[@adym15]

Totally off-topic, and I don’t know if you’ve covered this, but since Jace has been compleated, wouldn’t New Phyrexia now know about Bolas’s survival and imprisonment? A former-God-Pharoah Elder Dragon Planeswalker and his utterly plain sibling are nice targets for compleation.

[@phindude13]

Is Gideon in the theros afterlife or ravnica? If his soul is on theros, could erebos send him back?

[@TheyCallMeDio]

Poor Yawgmoth. Imagine being a Phyrexian God but your card says you're human

[@stratavosstuff7575]

that card is about when he was a human though... during the initial experiments.

[@eragon666s]

Wonder if gideon or some idolized incarnation of him will become a god.....

[@starknight2262]

Wait I'm confused. Wasn't Heliod imprisoned in the underworld of theros in theros beyond death ? I could be totally wrong but from what I can remember he was defeated and imprisoned in the underworld in theros beyond death.

[@D-Skotes]

He was but I'm assuming like most of the Team up cards this is a "We need everything we have to defend out home" so they let him out. Alternatively our big -Fluffy- Compleat Boi put enough corrupted faith back into him he was able to break out.

[@AetherHub]

This is a bridge of the facts with a bit a theory. With Theros under attack, it may be a big enough threat that Erebos frees Heliod to help in the defense.

[@cavemantero]

wotc just doesn't give a F about continuity or consistency thus 'cOMpleAted GoD so UBeRS OMeGYLulZ!' - Maro.

[@GRIMHOOD99]

Elesh norn is basically playing pokemon with planes. Gotta compleat them all.

[@TheSwordsman100]

I'm sorry but while it makes sense, I still find it to be a villain sue moment.

[@brotquel1592]

Is really Heliod still the most powerful god of Theros, though? I mean, this may just be an assumption, but after his failed coup in Beyond Death, the other god's cults more than likely revolted against his' one... I imagine Heliod's cult, right now, might be at an all-time low. Honestly, choosing the cult of Heliod is a pretty dumb move, knowing that the other gods and cults are just waiting for a reason to get beck at them. Either Karametra, Ephara or Iroas would have been a, by far, better choice. I mean... how can you oppose phyrexya with the god of VICTORY on their side? P.S. shout out to whoever wrote the D&D handbook about Theros who wrote that Heliod is LAWFUL GOOD and Pharika (you know, the goddess of medicine) as evil. Dude, Heliod is not Pelor!

[@stratavosstuff7575]

Heliod is Lawful neutral at best, and chaotic neutral easily (he's Zeus). Pharika is also true neutral, since hurt or heal on a whim.

[@brotquel1592]

@@stratavosstuff7575 Counting the betrayal of Elspeth and the plot to destroy the cult of every other single daity to claim power... no, Heliod is straight up evil...

[@n.henzler50]

WotC's Writing Team WUBRG Legendary Tribal Enchantment - Phyrexian Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield, flip a coin. If the result is heads, that permanent gains Toxic 1 and is a Phyrexian in addition to its other types. "We need a new plot thread for Joven's Ferrets? I think I've got an idea."

[@wowomah6194]

This sort of is how Gods work in the Elder Scrolls too. If people worship and pray to certain gods, it increases the Gods influence in the world such that their power/magic/essence whatever can interact with Tamriel, Nirn or the Mundus more. If people DON'T then it is thought that it actually weakens the God themselves such that they are not really Gods anymore, which is a big reason why the Thalmor are SO hellbent on enforcing outlaw of Talos worship.

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Looking forward to more of the story.

[@druneia]

I don't think the phyrexians will ultimately be successful in compleating the plane unless they take out Klothys and Kruphix. With those two not being dependent on devotion, they are Theros' best hope to survive the march. It will be interesting to see if Theros' denizens can collect themselves to counteract the phyrexians fast enough to stop the compleation of other gods, or if we will have multiple gods that are compleated.

[@gaijinhyuga]

I think we just found another Double Team card

[@AjaniGoldmaneFFXIV]

Idk how the multiverse come back from this. If a drop of oil can corrupt a plane, idk, just seems like something big is gonna happen.

[@AetherHub]

Agreed. This is what War of the Spark should have been. We will be reeling from this for years...

[@michaelmorgan2111]

Will we get a God of Compleation? 🤔

[@Amareatsuki]

i mean of the gods wasn't helios partly forsaken once the espeth arc sneding him to the underworld in her place? so makes sence he was the 'weakest' at this time and likely to be 'easy' ?

[@hrodvithit]

Surely the new phyrexianised denizens would just devote to a new idea of the perfect phyrexian god, giving birth to a new god, with absolute devotion, and so too stupidly powerful.

[@XBlackTemplarX]

RIP Omnath😥

[@tylermyung5241]

Wait, can someone explain on Theros Beyond Death not almost having a story?

[@salvatoredantonio2413]

If faith and belief can alter reality itself on Theros, such as compeating a god or causing the artificially created Calix to planeswalk, whos to say belief cant completely nullify compleation on Theros?

[@AetherHub]

It can nullify it for the Gods. But not the followers. Once they are turned, it’s all over.

[@salvatoredantonio2413]

@@AetherHub I guess thats true but im still gonna have some hope cause l think itd pretty cool

[@Imp3rdLord]

I hope we get a new pharika. Like who do you worship during a pharexian plague? The god of poison and cures.

[@acrolein1870]

Im curious will calix and daxos be compleated

[@AetherHub]

Calix is a Planeswalker and probably isn’t on Theros. But his god Klothys on the other hand…

[@Amphidsf]

Didn't Gideon just turn to ashes? I don't think there was anything buried at the memorial, nor if there was a ghost or spirit would it be on Theros since ghosts are planebound.

[@AetherHub]

Yeah he has no mortal remain. I was speaking purely about his monument lol

[@refuse2lose1985]

I want to see how Hazoret fairs against the Phyrexians. She's the last of the Amonkhet gods left, right?

[@cameronmatyjasik7341]

Was iroas a part of this fight?

[@VexylObby]

Gideon is totally going to reemerge as the new White God. 100%

[@TheDeadGunslinger]

I think this "phyrexian god" stuff is hinting at a return of Yawgmoth.

[@daverichards9141]

Funny how the phyrexians think no being is truly compleat until extra appendages are added.

[@AetherHub]

Yeah a couple arms there. A few telescope tentacles here. Perfecto

[@mjhenkel1984]

what's a faith to a god? what's a god to a plane? what's a plane to a swarm of all-consuming robot oil?

[@killerjoke2945]

The rise of intermittent fasting really hurt the devotion to Heliod.

[@sequerelucem1681]

Wonder if we will see a completed Daxos

[@AetherHub]

That would really piss Elspeth off

[@behindthebarwithbartender0805]

It seems to me that people have forgotten about one person that I think is elspeths key Asheok he wanted there nightmares.

[@uttpiew]

I wonder if Pharika has the cure for Phyresis since she seems to have all the cure and poison.🤔

[@AndrossUT]

Melira is the cure

[@uttpiew]

@@AndrossUT too bad she can't planeswalk to Theros

[@BlazeHeroic]

@@uttpiew Doesn't need to, with the realmbreaker connecting all the planes she can literally walk to Theros.

[@uttpiew]

@@BlazeHeroic well, sure. Except not sure if she has the privilege from Mama Norn to do so.

[@Razdasoldier]

Imagine when they compete Strixhaven... Loyal wizards from every plane.... With every forbidden magic...

[@noahdaglio9362]

If all the gods get compleated, that would kinda suck. Though, with the fluidity of faith, it’s possible for this to be reversed

[@AetherHub]

100%. Gotta fix the followers first which.. idk how lol

[@mikeawesome3]

So, Gideon is about to become a god on Theros huh? Pretty sweet

[@brentdye1504]

Phyrexian had launch the invasion on theros by compleating it's inhabitants who those that worship the gods.

[@AetherHub]

Exactly!

[@brentdye1504]

@@AetherHub Judging from ajani's words and the flavor texts on tranquil cove the phyrexians want to compleating the theros inhabitants cause the gods into phyrexian gods. And worse I feared that there will be the phyrexian versions of the nyxborns.

[@matthewwasser5621]

Didn't Ashok give Elspeth the shadow spear?

[@jazybomber]

It is nice to see a compleated Theros

[@Ozawanikoot]

oh man they better stay way from Gideon's corpse, don't bring him back undead and completed pls

[@AetherHub]

That would be the biggest gut punch of all….

[@AlphaCocoAudio]

Them completing Heliod is the straw that has broken my lore back. I can no longer be invested in this madness

[@D-Skotes]

I mean at least the way they did makes logical sense based on how Theros works.

[@nicholasdickson8698]

Look at the lore on the bottom of the new heliod. The theros gods are influenced by the belief of the people. You dropping the game/lore over something so easily explained is quite funny

[@AetherHub]

I agree with @hellzyeah666. It feels organic at least and not just “yeah gods can be Compleated, so what?” At least they tried here and I applaud that! Join us in the madness!!!

[@ivernedit]

wonder if daxos was completed as his champion

[@lazyprinny3265]

Good points, but could the opposite be inacted. What if people believe that the gods can destroy phyrexia or give birth to an anti pheryexian god?

[@barthazard5557]

Nice idea with polluting faith into individual god to compleat them, one of few things that wizard thought about in recent years. Still I hope that they will never reverse phyrexianization cause it would mean no consequensces from anything. Now, the thing I wonder about is what will happen when they assault Innistrad, will we see Emrakul in action? maybe phyrexianized eldrazi or eldrazed(?) phyrexian? that would be cool.

[@qaztim11]

I think the Eldrazi would Corrupt the Phyrexians, it would be a really cool story about the phyrexians getting a taste of their own medicine and being corrupted into eldrazi brood

[@barthazard5557]

@@qaztim11 I really hope that would happen Eldrazie- hope of the universe XD Also poor people of Innistrad, first nightmare of eldrazi corrupting Avacyn and corrupting so much in the plane already full of horror to be later invaded by phyrexians

[@kingmric]

Gideon, corpse puppet like venser? Super sad if it does happen

[@AetherHub]

A reconstructed Gideon machine ugh

[@djeemy]

Erebos is safe in Hell of Theros? And Imagine a Titan, Uro or Kroxa Phyrexianize

[@SolousOrneas]

Animations on point.

[@loserofthegame2]

Not that it makes Heliod any better of a character, but wasn't Erebos the one that made Gideon accidentally kill his friends?