Affordable Super Steel | LionSteel M4

I loved the handle geometry and overall blade performance. The m390 seems to be an amazing steel for sure.
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Brand: Lionsteel
Type of knife: bushcrafting knife, hunting knife
Type of steel: Böhler M390
Designer: Michele "Moletta" Pensato
Best use: bushcraft, camping, hunting, knifecollection
Blade length: 9.2 cm
Blade shape: drop point
Length: 20.5 cm
Handle length: 11.2 cm
Blade height: 3.1 cm
Blade thickness: 3.96 mm
Hardness: 61 HRC
Way of sharpening: flat, Western sharpening angle
Type of edge: plain edge
Finish blade: light matted
Colour: brown, silver
Weight: 146 gram
Material handle: cocobolo wood, wood
Sheath: yes
Material sheath: leather
MOLLE-compatible: no
Country of origin: Italy
Warranty on materials and manufacturing defects: lifetime
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[@greekveteran2715]

I can't believe that this video is 6 years old!!! I remember this, like if I watched it last year and not 6 years ago! Damn, time passes SO fast!!

[@michaellangshaw1521]

That is a sweet knife. It’s almost hard to believe that the edge retained itself as well as it did after all you did to it. Never seen anybody cut a circle and a piece of paper before but then again I’ve never seen a couple of cats like you to either! Keep them coming

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+michael langshaw haha thanks a lot

[@MichaelRozie]

I have this in magnacut. I did not even want to buy this knife but the M5 in 3V was sold out. I really wanted to buy another knife I really ‘needed’ and bought this one. It is now my favorite EDC knife, it is really good and you never have to sharpen it. Small enough to not scare the normies with your ‘Rambo knife’ , while still able to baton fire wood

[@michaelcervantez3570]

I have seen so many people say the same thing. That they were blown away and it it now their favorite knife. I also ordered the B41 so we shall see which becomes my favorite.

[@MichaelRozie]

@@michaelcervantez3570 It is an amazing and versatile knife. Getting the M5 next just because 😂 I hope you love your new knife

[@hivemind5137]

Best of both worlds! Rounded spine for comfort in hard use but can still create sparks.

[@ddyoder]

Even here in May 2021 this knife looks great. M390 is solid and LionSteel makes good looking stuff

[@jockitoy]

This knife will be added to my collection one day, m390 for that price is hard to say no to, and it really looks amazing. These are the type of videos that i love!

[@colliedogjoy]

So I drove an hour to The Bushcraft Store to pick up a BRK Bushcrafter but it was in CPM154 not the 3V I was anticipating, so I didn't get it. Now I am looking at this M4 and can't decide between it and an Enzo Trapper 95 Elmax Scandi. I prefer the look of the Enzo, and have a soft spot for the Scandi as well. This Lion Steel looks a bit tactical, but seems an excellent bush crafter and will be loads better at food prep.. The handle ergonomics seem much better also, and that edge retention is just fantastic! I teach kids basic bush craft and some mornings make 20 or 30 feather sticks, so less edge maintenance is the goal here! I just need to fall for the looks of the Lion Steel! Another great video - it might be 2 years old, but it's still relevant. Love the Virtuovoice 'No Problem' :)

[@kalleager4839]

A tip for pine needle tea, when water boils take it off the heat and put pine needles in (and put on lid if you have to keep the heat better). You get harmful substances when boiling it. And it tastes better when you do it like this! Nice knife btw! I think it seems very good for the price. That edge retention is amazing!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot for the tip Kalle! we really appreciate it!

[@frenstcht]

Don't put lemon in hot tea (proper tea, from tea leaves). It leeches out lead, the worst possible lead you can consume. I can't explain the chemistry, but I knew a pathologist (a guy who studies why people die), and he refused to ever put something acidic in his tea. Smart guy; I took his advice.

[@neutronalchemist3241]

frenstcht It can happen if you put lemon when the leaves are still there, since, when the leaves are in infusion, fortunately the lead remains in the leaves. If you put lemon in the tea after the leaves have been removed, nothing happens. Obviously lemon can't add to the tea something that isn't already there, or in the lemon.

[@frenstcht]

*forehead slap* Yeah, that's so obvious I'd have never thought of it. Thanks for the insight!

[@marcoclementi1247]

This tea seems to be dangerous! Just drink wine, it's safer.

[@jeffhaze1]

I love to see a video in detail on how you convexed the edge on the M4. It looked great! Would love to have my M4 like yours. Outstanding!

[@Gpknives]

Great review! I love this knife. Materials, design, ergos are all fantastic especially for the price. It's on my short list.

[@anulumueller2315]

I buy January 2017 a lionsteel M4 form a good friend of mine. I love the knife, the size is nearly perfect for the most daily challenges. For my personal opinion it is not difficult to sharpen, 3-4 weeks ago the knife was falling down from 1.60 m to the ground and hit directly with the edge the stoneground. The result was 2-3 small chipped points. So I have to resharpening the knife. I used just a cheaper old 400 grind gräwe stone and an 1000/3000 k naniwa stone. Take less than 35 minutes, and it's like new. Can not understand why so many people think that m390 is difficult to sharpen. I buy at the same time a benchmade contego 810 with the cpm M4 steel blade. So I start to made a challenge between this bought knives. I cut nearly everything with this knifes from end of January until now. Used as kitchen knifes, outside, woodwork, carpenter...... every cutting job, day by day. For my personal opinion, the cpm M4 (64 HRC version) hold the cutting edge longer. But it is not so rust / stain resistant like m390. There are a lot different opinions about comparing this premium steel knifes. Both are excellent. I hope that you guys will do some day a review for a cpm M4 or M4 rex knife. I am still very impressed from this steel, I own a lot of expensive and good knives, but I like the lionsteel m4 and benchmade 810 by far most. You get a superb knive for less money if you buy the lionsteel, it is a fantastic one. Do some one have a bad experience with the lionsteel M4 ? Best regards to the DBK guys, your channel is unique

[@vqman535]

just purchased this one. Lionsteel is becoming my brand.

[@Kwaark]

2 years later, happy with it ?

[@albertgonzalez8780]

Thanks for the great video. I just bought the M4 in Santos Wood for $139 from a US online dealer and really love this knife. Thanks to you I now have the M1 (also M390 steel) and M5 (Sleipner) on my radar.

[@mrdarren1045]

I just got this knife in the g10 version. I already had the m5 but I prefer the m4 now. The handle ergos are really spot on and it's the perfect size for practical use. And m390 steel for £138 is just amazing. Btw I love how you use some very English words and phrases... like 'proper', 'bloody hell' and 'mate'. Of all none native English speakers the Dutch seem to have the best English. They even have all the slang spot on. I think in many ways Holland is the country most like England in many ways or maybe England is just the country most like Holland.

[@chrisstroot7221]

Just ordered this knife can't wait to get it. It's NT far the best knife I have ever owned. Love your channel guys. Not only is this all informative but you guys a friggin hilarious. Keep it up.

[@matthiasm.5822]

And now 6 years later its out in Magnacut. Knife and Tool exclusive

[@jeffreydustin5303]

Thank you both gentlemen. From the bottom of my heart, this knife is the most perfect cutlery I have ever known. I have also the M5 G10 and both are exquisite pieces of master craft.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Jeffrey Dustin awesome! Thanks a lot for the kind d words!

[@schlooonginator1227]

What would be interesting is a competition between the Enzos in different steels. It would be really cool to see which keeps its edge longest and just watch your comments and thoughts on the steels. O1, S30V and Elmax are all great and should be relatively close.

[@kylestewart4444]

My edc blade is in M390 and it has treated me very well

[@kevinAuman1]

Kyle Stewart same here, mine is the very inexpensive Kershaw link in M390

[@BOOSTEDLASER]

Got mine, just treated sheath twice with Huberd's shoe grease. SOOOO many made it seems thin like a spiderco folder. Not 1 of them even owned it or saw one in person, just pics. Stout for sure. Sheath design is ok, I like Bark River style better. IT will work NP.....for a while anyway...until it cuts up Grind was even-ish. Came sharp.Tip was slightly less sharp then the rest.Last 1/2 inch or so. Used my worksharp for a convex.Used the 8000 grit micromesh belt 50x or so per side(stopped counting) it is full mirror now. 20 DEG/side. it is SHARP now.Last 1/2 inch (tip) is the same as the rest now. Push cuts paper NP and shaves arm hair (pops)..not that I care about that stuff...but I did it anyway. My left to right side grind is close. I dont go crazy over this like some owners. ( say some insane vids and posts). Worksharp made it about perfect Knife is a bit heavier then I thought it would be, I am now 6'9 330...im not worried about 1-2 extra ounces, man up guys (me at a tiny 6'8 295 or so kzbin.info/www/bejne/inSoh4OQd7Kia5I). In general blade/handle is a bit bigger then expected. Not that I care ( I like the M1 shape/style a tad better..if it was 3.5-3.7 long)That said..I am fine as it is Scales dont line up 100% (some go crazy over this) it has no effect on use,no hotspots due to this.(scales are .1% larger then tang.) ****Being really REALLY picky (just a personal thing) I like the finger guard/stop and choil. SOOOO many knives do NOT have this and I this... its dumb on ANY knife. I feel safe and secure holding/using this,even in self defence. That said, I wish The choil was a bit deeper..perhaps 25-50% like a White River backpacker. As is, it is JUST enough for me..I mean just.To be clear it is NOT a problem . I have been cut by a few guard-choil-less knives b4 and wont ever own another. Bradford Guardian 3 comes to mind 3 stiches, 1 other bad cut, 4 others I know and countless on youtube and forums...he has a guardian 3.5 now thats MUCH better after I talked to the owner Brad 3 times and sent him pics and links of proper handle design...first gen scales also horrible( entire handle really) he has corrected all this as of now......anyway Brad is a VERY nice guy. REAL M390 with a solid heat treat. Great ergos. Decent sheath.Blade shape/size is right on. Overall I have to rate this for intended uses and some not intended a 10 /10. Really.(unless something stupid happens with the steel) The kicker....155 bucks ????????? Other well known MFG would charge 250-400+ for this knife as it is. * To the guy (if he ever reads this) : He said "Dude I dont own one but have seen pics.This is a chinesey,thin blade that will break in half the first use.It is cheap and thin like a Cold Steel.Pocket knife thin.I bet my wife that 99% of them break a tip in the first day of woods/hunting use. Not abuse,just normal use." *You are a 100% moron In closing : on the fence? Need a great EDC or hunting/camp/bushcraft... even kitchen knife..BUY THIS !!!! Semper Fi Gunny

[@TheAnvil1971]

Very nice review, thanks guys! I am also a big fan of the Böhler M390, it is indeed my favorite steel. I have it on my Custom Markus Reichart MR 103/5 and it holds an edge like hell. It is impressive that Lionsteel sells such a beautiful knife to this reasonable price. I get soon one too.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot mate! I too was surprised so I had to check it out!

[@MichaelRozie]

The firesteel striker is located on the bottom of the knife… Notice how that is the only part on the knife that has sharp 90 degree edges. No Italian designer would round off an entire knife so every edge is perfectly smooth and leave that sharp like that without purpose 😄 It is very effective tbh.

[@ctford27]

I have an M2 from lionsteel. It's the sharpest knife I've ever seen! I love Lionsteel.

[@MrBoomie00]

You guys are my favorite knife reviewers. I appreciate you reviewing this company. Not enough people know about the quality products they make. My M4 has been amazing. Have you guys ever check out Utility Tool Knives? Another solid company, but they are smaller and younger than Lionsteel. Still, awesome knives.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot!, I haven't heard about utility tool knives though

[@johnwilliams8654]

I bought the M4 and a Bark River Bravo1 in 3v at the same time. The bark river is "my precious", but I find living in the city that I carry the M4 more often.. I did go with g10, but really the smaller profile makes it easier to carry and I have grown to absolutely love this knife.

[@KingFozzie1]

This is all I needed to know! I’m getting one too!! Thanks

[@nickreed3031]

Why would the m4 be better in the city and bark river better for woods?

[@johnwilliams8654]

@@nickreed3031 The M4 sits a lot flatter on my hip and doesn't drop down nearly as far as the bravo 1, so it's usually nearly covered up by a shirt or hoodie, whereas the barkriver sticks out a lot more.

[@nickreed3031]

@@johnwilliams8654 lol I thought you were speaking of the utility of the knife. But you were talking about how it looks. All I care about is utility. I don't see a use for a fixed blade in the city. Guns are a much more practical solution. But utility as edc in the city a folder. What is the advantage in bushcraft from one to the other?

[@johnwilliams8654]

@@nickreed3031 Absolutely! I conceal carry too! I like having a fixed blade though, but I don't want to draw attention to myself possibly making me a target. The Bark River is a beast and I would bet my life on it.

[@mikejoseph8392]

It’s even as good as the Chris Reeves Nyala. Less expensive better steel and the handle fills the hand better. For the price it is in a class of its own. I edc this knife and sharpened it 2-3 months ago and wit a couple of sweeps on the strop block it’s back to razor sharp. By the way it’s very easy to sharpen with diamonds otherwise a little Tim consuming. Love your vids.

[@Blue450]

I have the M4 and i love it. I would love to see a test with the little brother. The Lionsteel M1. That would be cool.

[@evanthompson1420]

Seeing this video after seeing your new ones it is amazing with the amount of upgrades you have done over the years

[@schlooonginator1227]

Great point regarding the thinness and ease of sharpening. First time I had ever heard or read anyone point that out.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+schlooonginator thanks! It's kind of a big factor when sharpening. Its much harder getting the desired sharpness on a very thick blade. Cheers!

[@moysfree6660]

I just made my first wooden Mallet to Baton wood out of yellow pine from watching your videos and I bought my first mora knife and I can't believe how sharp it is thanks again for the great video's guy 😄

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

cheers! thanks a lot!

[@icecorebaby]

Bought the same knife a few weeks back!! Haven't had it out in the field yet but can hardly wait!

[@michalzimmer1453]

"It doesn't need to look fancy, it just need to be working" - words to live by

[@Datsyzerberg]

"Take your time, Start blowing" also words to live by

[@natek1993]

Such a beautiful knife. Awesome videos guys.

[@tonyhallen1062]

I hope you both stay well and your minds stay clear and alert so you can continue with high viewer satisfaction and success. Love your channel.

[@dfcvda]

bought one cos of your recommendation even though my country hates knives (UK)

[@icecorebaby]

Man I am gonna go broke watching you guys. Most of my knives are either made out cpm 3v (bravo 1.5, bravo 2, cold steel srk, cold steel war tanto) or elmax (firstedge 5050 and 5150). Now it's the lionsteel m4 390 steel I am playing around with! Love my fallkniven A1, may have to get the pro version!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

haha we're sorry Scott! great knives mate! you have a good taste!

[@adamvarys]

You deserve more subs !!!!

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

Adam Varyš Ya don't say!! lel!!

[@subswithnovideoschallang-qu4jb]

Adam Varyš ty jsi Čech? xD

[@AlpineTrails]

That's a beautiful knife at a reasonable price for a M390. I initially wanted a Fallkniven F1 but after hearing about the tip breaking off I decided to go for the Esee 4 even though I'm not a fan of Carbon steel. I wish I would have seen this video first. I realised the Esee is quite expensive for what it is ( more like an Iphone) so it will be returned. This M4 really impressed me so I might give it a shot :) Cheers.

[@superliam1596]

that was a very good featherstick

[@shanerichardson9568]

I have this one with the green g10, absolutely love it!

[@christophsindorf7003]

Would be great to see a review of the magnacut version and a direct conparison 😊 KR

[@m.s.l.7746]

Try like two to three times the edge retention of CPM 3V & Elmax.

[@jonny8688]

One knife i think you guys would love is the Lionsteel m3. Its a great knife that also is made from a great steel. The m3 santos version looks amazing but if you want it more "survival" you could choose the micarta handle but then you loose the incredible leather sheath and the fantastic looking santos wood!

[@jeroenmeijer19]

Tommorow i get one with the post ! M4 / g10 !! From knives and tools !! Can't wait !! Super steel for only € 145 ! It's a steal !

[@MrOshimaida]

I was looking at this knife yesterday and now I'm going to get it. Thanks guys.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

You are very welcome! I really like it a lot!

[@Michaelblecich]

you guys have come a long way over the years....looking forward to many more years if watching you two entertaining bastards

[@Jonas.simon.thomas]

In case you didn't have "TRC Knives" on your radar, it's semi-custom knives by a Lithuanian knife maker made of premium steels like ELMAX or M390 ;) I am not getting payed for this btw :D

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

haha! I was planning on getting a TRC for my M390 first. The lionsteel was a cheaper option but I dare not say i'm not getting a TRC in the future. they look cool and I love the steel choices. If they get M4 i'm sold.

[@Jonas.simon.thomas]

In fact I happened to talk to the maker Andrius Tricius and he's putting out a new batch of K1 knives in M390 steel for around 260€ this week

[@Jonas.simon.thomas]

I'm getting a TRC K1 in Elmax soon, so if you are interested in reviewing it let me know :)

[@kevinAuman1]

Should be getting my m390 lionsteel tre folder in mail today! Cannot wait

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Sweet!

[@kevinAuman1]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives actually I am going to return the knife, it is alot smaller than I thought it was and for $151 I could definitely buy a more useful and a bit bigger knife! Lol So in its place I ordered another ZERO TOLERANCE 0620 in elmax steel after losing the one I had....

[@bushcraftrex5394]

Greetings guys, could you post a tutorial on how you do your secondary convex edge? I would like to know more about that setup you have with the stones, and which stones you used for this M390 blade. Until now i only knew about sandpaper & mousepad for convex sharpening

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Greetings!, I would not recommend a mousepad with sandpaper as the mousepad will easily make a knife too convex which decreases it's sharpness. Loosening up your wrists while sharpening creates a convex on your knife because you wont be able to do every stroke in the same angle as the previous. We are getting a lot of requests for a sharpening video so we will do one this winter when we don't have the chance of going to the woods for videos.

[@kylestewart4444]

Bushcraft & Rex the most important thing is to gradually raise the angle as you move through the grits. TheApostleP has a great video on convex sharpening. As Martin said, try to keep your wrists fairly loose but you also need to take good care to make both sides as symmetrical as you can. It will never be perfect but too much asymmetry will result in poor, inconsistent cutting performance.

[@AnthonySConte]

Lionsteel...M390...would love to Desert Ironwood BURL scales/handle materal! Great knife...very reasonable price...loved the review gents...great channel...and keep it up.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks mate! we appreciate it! I wish this knife was available with desert ironwood burl. that would be awesome.

[@kriskabin]

Yup, desert ironwood would be so appropriate for this m4.

[@artymech]

Hey mates, the M390 is steel is ok!! But as you know it's all about the heat treatment of the steel!! I have a 01 steel skandiviks with great heat treatment with no rolls or chips evens after 2 years of use, only strop and nice coat of oil keeps it going good!! Kool video!!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

o1 can be a very great steel with proper heat treat

[@SamohtNox]

i'm so getting this knife!!!!! for that price, probably the best bang for the buck!!

[@timwhite5562]

Every time I buy a knife for an intended use (bushcraft, EDC folder, etc), it's usually a month or two before my eyes start to wander at other models... Just to see what's out there 🙄. I got one of these years ago and have yet to care enough to even mildly consider replacing it. I've turned my back on carbon and high carbon steel knives in this style a long time ago, for my uses and needs there's nothing carbon steel offers that I need enough to overlook the drawbacks, mainly corrosion resistance and edge retention. The last one I had was an Esee 3. People seem to like it's edge retention, and maybe someone was distracted during the heat treat for my particular one, but I wasn't happy with it at all. The humidity here in New England can get pretty bad during summers, and corrosion seems to be a problem instantly here with carbon steels. Clearly these work well with fire steels, but even if they didn't it's not a major consideration for me. I haven't been in a situation where I absolutely need to use a knife with one anyways. The truth is that if I'm ina scenario where my lighters and spare matches I keep everywhere are gone, my fire rod has a cover with a built in scraper that's tethered to it, so if I don't have that odds are I don't have the steel either. If those come to be, needing a knife to start a fire is likely to be the least of my troubles.

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

would like to se this knife against more recent knifes and see how it compare to more expensive knives in similar steels. Is this possible mates?

[@49giants3]

Thank you guys for another awesome video. You guys keep getting better with every video

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot! you are welcome! Merry christmas!

[@robertkirk4387]

I have always liked the look of the lionsteel M3 in Niolox steel

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

From what i've heard the niolox must be a very decent steel.

[@robertkirk4387]

all these new steels are baffling and it's hard to keep up, so i tend to stick to what i know, I just got a "real steel" bushcraft II folder in D2 and it's worth a look but i don't think you guys do folders do you

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

nope we only use some cheap folders like the opinel for opening boxes haha. D2 should hold a great edge on a folder though.

[@matijavagner8124]

Hello guys! :) I bought M4 Cocobolo today as my first hunting knife. It feels awesome in hand. I will give you my feedback after first use on skinning. Thanks for all reviews you have made! Good work!

[@Longwalkhome2]

Would love to have one of these with olivewood

[@TheAnonymousSword]

I didn‘t regret my decision to skip this one. Why? Because they came up with a magnacut variant of the M4 for around 200€, which is a pretty phenomenal package.

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

Still waiting to see this compared to other knives hehe

[@johnheller5786]

hey thanks for getting back to me. black g10 great. wood I tend to stay away from. Live in las vegas so most of my wanderings tend to be in the desert. So when temp gets to be 40 degrees Celsius plus always get a little worried how wood would hold up

[@jameskarl424]

Going back far enough to see videos with the stock music before Mikkies band and with the new intro song but before the pepper challenge laugh intro :P

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

crazy sharp 😉love the review and the knife the tea looks good too

[@marvcarey6815]

Great job on the review guys; I enjoyed watching.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot!

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

Test this against the new benchmade in 3v

[@oldhairpin]

Just watched this video again and have just ordered from Knives and Tools with a few other things. Thanks for the review :-) Take it easy, Ben.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I hope you'll enjoy it! You are very welcome! All the best to you!

[@scoopdedoop2673]

my benchmade sibert 755 mini pocket rocket has m390 "SPECTACULAR" steel

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

it sure is mate!

[@kingfish4488]

Yes nice blade---- I've been looking at the M5 in G10 but its in Sleipner steel. I don't have any knives in this steel I don't think Molletta would put his name on it if its a poor steel there selling for $147 free shipping in the U.S. seems like a good deal

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

That's an incredible deal. I just got the M5 today in sleipner. I went totally militairy style on this one with a black coating, black G 10 and a black sheath. As expected the handle geometry is great. I'm very curious on how the steel will hold up.

[@silverback4434]

I buy this knife in the g10 version today on amazon . Its my personnal gift for christmas 😁 i think he gonna be my buddy for a long time ☺

[@Kwaark]

hey ! review after 9 month ?

[@MrBessen]

Hi DBK, I just want to say that I really enjoy your videos. I want to get my own bushcraft knife but cant decide between Fallkniven F1 and this Lionsteel M4. Any advise? Please keep up with the videos, you guys are awesome. If you ever come to Southern California or Dallas, please let me know, Id like to buy you a beer!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot! Both the f1 and the Lionsteel are great knives. The F1 has a better knife geometry in my opinion but the M4 uses a much better steel (harder to sharpen though). The handle geometry of the lionsteel is also better. The F1 is made to be completely care free. and the handle feels good in the winter. Maybe i'm making it even harder now but... good luck choosing! You'll be happy with both.

[@MrBessen]

Thank you so much for your advice! I think it is a harder decision now haha but I will have to put them in my hand first. You guys are awesome and please please don't stop the videos and the fun!

[@AnthonyFister]

So many good knives... so limited funds. :-)

[@mistersmith3986]

Another excellent review. You guys rock!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot mate!

[@frenstcht]

Hiya! "Oak" is a meaningless term, because white oak and red oak are very different from the perspective of a knife's edge. Specifically, the guy who sharpens our tools absolutely loves white oak because it contains a lot of silicates (IIRC), and when we work white oak, he gets a lot more sharpening work from us. Always specify the type of oak: white or red. Also, pine knots are about as hard as you're going to get for wood. They make for good testing.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Hey, I'm not sure about the english names but this was Quercus Robur (latin)

[@frenstcht]

Heya, the internet's best guess is that the white oak I'm referring to, Quercus alba, is exclusive to the eastern U.S. If you want to pay for shipping, I'll send some over for you to baton with. Okay, that's silly, but now I'm curious if there really is a difference. No matter. Keep up the good work. I actually bought this Lion Steel knife because of this video, which is bad for you, because that was your Patreon support money :-P

[@frenstcht]

Yo, I was joking about the patreon thing; I'm a supporter. Keep up the good work.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

hahahaha !! I hope it will serve you well!

[@timb8970]

I love the slow speed chopping sequence so underwhelming!

[@ToddGajewski]

Great job guys, keep it up!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot mate!

[@dinoatlas]

Hello Gents. Can you do a quick video on how you re-profile to that Convex edge so easily? Great videos...I am a real fan!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot Dino! We have a lot to film the coming weeks but as winter is nearing we will do more sharpening stuff for sure. We should do a convex sharpening video indeed.

[@astrazenica7783]

so its a Bohler powdered stainless steel. Very high wear resistance. Rockwell hardness easily above 60 after tempering. Cool, I'd never heard of it. Trust the Italians to make such good looking knife

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

it's the same as CPM-20cv I believe. It's a great steel! going to try out their sleipner next. -stay sharp!

[@Wolverine-hj2cd]

I always thought m390 was pretty brittle stuff, meant purely for cutting. But I see you guys beat on it and other steels that are considered more delicate..... Are steels like m390 only too delicate for hard work when put in a larger blade or what? Do I really need something like cpm3v in a small knife for hard use, or just in a larger blade?

[@jakewallace8923]

How did you get the Ferro rod to spark? The spine is rounded. I'm curious

[@lancechristy2595]

nice knife.... when you guy's going to do more camping, those videos are just as cool

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

hey thanks mate! good to hear. We plan on doing some soon. good to hear some feedback on that as well. We had a lot of new knives so we had a lot of knife vids.

[@lancechristy2595]

Do you re-profile all of your knives??

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

almost all of them yes. stay sharp!

[@timothygrmn]

If you gentlemen are still looking for decent M390 blades, you might check out Bradford knives.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+timothygrmn Just checked em out and maybe a knife for in the future! We do actually mostly prefer kind of a classic design for a knife and this brand looks a little more tactical or soomething. Never the less i bet they are awesome knives!

[@adriani.3590]

Hi! I have a little problem. I dont know what grit its needed to hair shaving sharpness :( i have 1 very cheap unknown grit stone and 1 600/1200 aluminium oxide stone that i dont know if its water or oil. Used with water its so soft, the tip left big scratches. The lowest price of a 3000/8000 grit costs more than my both knives. 40€, but i want that razor sharp :((

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Adrian I. You should try a strop with bark river black and white compound. I you take the time to sharpen you can make a kknife shave a bit after 400 grit. If you would strop with the compound after 400 grit you'll be able to shave of hairs easily. The edge will not be as clean as with higher grits though

[@adriani.3590]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives Thank you for answer! I cant find Bark river in my country, so ill buy some 1-3 microns compound. I found that 2 microns=12-13k grit. Hope this will make scary sharp edge. Thank you!!

[@ectgaming9249]

Im curious when he said the fern was abundant in end August but the video was published September 20th.

[@TacBlades]

Great review :) looking like a great steel. More knives and colder tea for the win :)

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

hahah thanks mate!

[@AaronJohnson1979]

Hello long-time subscriber my question is can you guys please start doing the brass Rod test on the knives u test, I would love to see that thank you and keep up the good work

[@yakoobjunior9631]

Nicely done guys

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks mate!

[@reejasp]

Good job with the review, I'm surprised how sharp it is after the stress work

[@Flamma-theSyrian]

isn't m390 a low toughness steel ? i think this knife is meant for hunting and skinning

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

it's not very tough but that isn't really needed for a blade this small.

[@mikmolletta7178]

Very nice review. Thanks.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Thanks a lot !

[@mortenxcr223]

Great show guys.. just recently discovered your show and must say I love it. A question .. if you had to pick one knife for general purpose in the woods, would you go for this M4 or the F1D Cos ? Thx for feedback guys

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

Hey Morten, Thanks a lot! I would have to pick the F1D. It's completely care free and the steel is just so well balanced. The edge retention and handle geometry of the M4 are better but the F1D is ready for every environment, easy to sharpen, takes an amazingly sharp edge and above all I prefer the blade geometry (full convex on the f1D and full flat with secondary convex or V edge on the M4).

[@mortenxcr223]

I will go with your recommendation then, thx again

[@shaqmadick1889]

Hey guys ! can you test a Niolox steel knife ? I saw some videos on KZbin and it seems that it has the performance of a supersteel . you will find out if it really is .

[@larsonfam3861]

Bohler Uddeholm makes the BEST steel, I make knives and buy from my local office, have gotten D2, vanadis 4extra, and now I'm working on a giant two hand machete/knife out of caldie. I also have the lionsteel KUR in safety orange with the sleipner blade. All of these steels have been amazing and I hope BU takes over in all uses for steel, they make something great for anything you could think of. Check out the post "Looking for Bohler Udderholm blade steels?, Check this out!" on blade bladeforums for info on how I was able to open the door for small order and private ordering from bohler. if you make your knives or bladecrafts, your gonna want to check it out!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Larson Fam thanks for the comment! I'm having a custom knife made in v4e. Can't wait!

[@WDLC1911]

Very nice blade & video, guys. I'm new to blades and I'm hesitant to resharpen such a knife. How long did it take you to modify the blade? What you edited made it look easy with the whetstones. Thanks!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

It took me around 30-45 minutes. The 400 grit stone takes up most of the time. If you are hesitant just buy a mora to get the basics. We actually started sharpening on a DC4 and a fallkniven A1 and F1. They were very expensive for us when we got them (when we were 16) but eventually we did learn to sharpen them ourselves. Just keep trying. Don't fear that the beauty of the knife will be ruined. It's a tool made to be used. When you get the hang of it all you can patch the knife back up into great shape.

[@WDLC1911]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives, thank you for the response. I have a Garberg and it has a small burr but it's exceedingly sharp so I've not bothered to attempt to correct it. I will order several Moras and will use them and learn the skill. Thank you, kindly. Kevin

[@ferminmalayang5499]

love the knives though..hope i can buy one...but i cant find any here in the philippines...love lots from the philippines...

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

thanks a lot mate! It must be a pain getting these kinda knives over their. Do you have any popular brands in your erea? I'm always looking for more hehe.

[@shaqmadick1889]

You should try the TRC APOCALYPSE L also ! its a huge 170 mm M390 blade and looks so cool !!!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I've been looking at them. I asked him to make me a custom knife but he couldn't make it the way I wanted it sadly.

[@shaqmadick1889]

I see .. I thing that this company its a small one comparing with other manufacturers maybe that's the reason .. but TRC knives are so great without any custom modes anyway .

[@KingFozzie1]

Volgens mij is dit een prima mes als eerste fixed blade. Ik wil m gebruiken voor kamperen beetje snijden beetje hakken en zeker ook voor food prep tijdens kamperen en thuis in de keuken. Goeie keus wat jullie betreft? Later zal ik een grote survival kopen

[@vlaendr]

Nice test and great sharpening skills! Btw if you have to choose only one knife, which one would it be and why? (I know, different steels, grinds... but that´s why I ask) LionSteel M4 vs F1dz Lam.CoS vs. EnZo Trapper Elmax Scandi ?? Thanks a lot for your reply!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

the F1D, it's a knife that needs almost no care, the steel is easy to sharpen and gets crazy sharp. I like the fill convex as well it's very versatile

[@vlaendr]

Thanks for your answer! I am considering the F1D as a best option for my needs, just wanted to ask. I like the knife itself, but I consider the Fallkniven´s zytel sheath as best of all three knives as well - slim, low profile, absolutely easy to clean. So the F1D looks like the smallest package but with full potential. Keep up the good work, I really like your videos!

[@dvolsky914]

I'm planning to purchase this knife. I thought I would be interested in the cocobolo handles. But after you mentioned the softness and the dents, I am concerned the handles wouldn't hold up over time. Now, I'm thinking I would be better off with the G10 handles. I can't decide. Did you acquire the dents from batoning or just from normal use? If you could go back, would you still get the cocobolo handles, or would you go with the G10? Thank you.

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

I don't remember how I got the dents. if I could buy the knife I would go with G10 or olivewood. Probably G10. I have the G10 scales for this blade lying on my desk right now. Asked lionsteel if they could send me some and they did ! great company.

[@dvolsky914]

Dutch Bushcraft Knives You mentioned you would probably choose the olive wood over the cocobolo? Is it a harder wood? Is it the aesthetics? Do you view the cocobolo even less favorably now than you did when you made this video? They look nice from what I can tell. Do you expect them to deteriorate over time? I understand wood handles to have a warmer, more comfortable feel over G10. How is the traction on the wood? Would they become slippery if they become wet? Sorry for all the questions. I'm still not sure of which to choose and having trouble deciding. I want to make the right choice. Thanks again for your help.

[@michaelcervantez3570]

Seven years later and you can still find them for around 150 bucks 👍

[@blakej9255]

I would love to see a review on the TOPS Scandi Trekker

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Blake J they are very expensive in the Netherlands. $170 for 1095 is just too much in my opinion

[@bigmich485]

really cool channel and video guys!

[@DutchBushcraftKnives]

+Michel Boudreau thanks a lot!