AFL Trade Rumour: Are the Eagles SPLITTING Pick 3?

Jesse discusses the rumour that the West Coast Eagles might trade pick three in the 2024 AFL Draft.

[@nicolacantatore7095]

We should be asking for a priory pick 3 years down the bottom North have had that many I’ve lost count we qualify now for one

[@charlesca5763]

Don't know why West Coast just don't offer Graham 1.2m a year so Richmond get band 1 comp and then give less for Baker. I know technically not within the rules but stuff like this happens all the time

[@BDub2024]

And give Baker a hungry jacks franchise and make graham work flipping burgers there. problem sol-ved.

[@Harryhunted]

3 to swans for warner 😂

[@BDub2024]

3 and 13 for Warner at least. Plus Warner will want Freo in the end.

[@spindoctor6385]

Isn't there some rule that stops a pick coming back to the team that just traded it? I could be way off, but I thought I heard that North in some hypothetical, could end up with the pick that they traded out last year, and that this didn't break the rule because it was in a seperate year, suggesting that it is not within the rules to get the same pick back in thr same year. If it is against the rules, it could complicate any deal to swap with Richmond if WC give 14 as part of a player deal and then want it back as part of the pick swap.

[@deanbeissel2807]

Yes it is not allowed normally but I heard someone, perhaps twomey, say that it’s ok when it happens in different years

[@spindoctor6385]

@@deanbeissel2807 Thanks mate.

[@alanflynn8734]

All this is telling me is there’s so many teams with better hands then us which is bullshit really. We’ve just gotta keep 3 and 14 and take baker to the rookie Draft, Richmond won’t pick him Mitch haha

[@BDub2024]

We only have 3 draft picks in the first four rounds in 2024. Next year we only have four draft picks. We just didn't trade players out a couple of years ago, so we don't have draft picks so are restricted now in recruiting kids and trading for players. Can't do much really.

[@MannyYoung-ws1sc]

well thought out mate

[@joshhowie7657]

baker really throws a spanner in the works. i saw a talking head on fox say that in the TB deal, the eagles want 2 first rounders and the hawks get our second round pick back. the eagles want that second round pick to the hawks next year but the hawks want this years second round pick. if it means getting a first round pick next year than id do it and not hold out over this years second round pick. and take pick 3 and 14 to the draft. I'm not sure if the tigers would trade pick 6 and baker for 3 but its that or let baker stay in Melbourne another year and pick him up as a free agent. west coast need youth and high end talent at that. pick 3 would get us a gun mid and 14 we would get a good run at KPDs. baker is excess to needs at them moment.

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@joshhowie7657 a one year deal for baker to get through to free agency would benefit both clubs.. I mean we'd miss him this year obviously but can take our picks to the draft and next year richmond gets band 1 compensation (ie pick 2). I think that's what they want to do and will play hardball.

[@BDub2024]

I reckon someone like Powell Pepper or Libertore (younger version) would be the sort of players we need. Fast, gutsy, accountable and physical presence. We need kids for sure. But need to somehow fast track the midfield or we'll have youngster walking out the door. Even an experienced journeyman older ruckman for nothng might be good.

[@r1ftz793]

I don’t mind the gws trade, we could use are first next year to get a mid or trade for Warner. We could use those late first to get player like Lindsay, alixru, copper hyns. This could help us in are three worst areas outside, key defenders, and a pressure forward

[@jaybourne2200]

Recruiting midfielders and Turning them into halfbacks is what the Eagles do best. They find key position players abit easier normally it's the other way around.

[@MarkAllsopp-uw4lr]

Sounds like the general consensus is Harley will leave after his 3 year contract. Do you trade him end of next season, get 3 picks in top 15 and get Warner with two and another top end talent?

[@BigCatinBKK]

Is there a general consensus?

[@BDub2024]

I think he's likely to sign another 2 to 3 years after the three years. That's the expectation currently. The new coach and change of staff have stopped all negotiations. You'd expect a new deal sometime during next season. So will be important that we go well in the first half of the season. You've been listening to Sam McClure too much.

[@ralphgomeze8873]

Mitch Cleary reported Richmond would trade baker for nothing if Eagles pay Graham $800k , Rich get pick 2. 3 way with GC -Trade 3 & 14(Barrass) for 6,12,20. Rich 2, 6 for WC Bolton, Rich 3 for GC Rioli, Rich 20 for WC Baker. Rich 1,2,4 ,6,20. WC, 12,23, Bolton, Baker, Graham. GC 14, Rioli. WC next year future first round & Hawks future first round (Warner) , Hawks have WC 2nd Round (Barrass)

[@BigCatinBKK]

He didn't report that. He put it out there as idle speculation. There's no indication this will happen.

[@jasonbeck3814]

Ashcroft matched bid pushes saints down to 8 and 9 Eagles pick 3 goes to 4

[@MAS1234P]

In 2019, we underestimated Chad Warner and let him go for pick 39. This year, do we believe that Bo Allen and Hamish Davis will be as good as Chad Warner? If they will be as good, we should split pick 3 and invest into some of the local talents.

[@Ben-ij6zv]

Maybe Adelaide- pick 4 plus 28 for pick 3 or we take Draper. They really want him.

[@stallon720]

I dont think they do. There are other mids around there that suit them more, and same as the Eagles, they dont really care for local talent specifically

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@stallon720 who suits them more and why? Draper is a gun and hes explosive. Saw a lot of damage control during the week that suggests they are sending him strong signals they want him.

[@stallon720]

@@Ben-ij6zv Hes not particularly explosive, and his disposal isnt great. A Lalor, Smillie or Jagga are better fits imo. Jagga is similar to Draper but better, Lalor is a big body burst mid they lack, and Smillie is their big body clearance winner they also lack. Draper is a lot more similar to Laird or Crouch who they already have.

[@Ben-ij6zv]

@stallon720 interesting. I think the vision looks good but am only seeing highlights. If he's a Laird/ Crouch type I'd prefer Eagles to take Lalor. Smillie will still be there at pick 4 if that's who they want.

[@stallon720]

@@Ben-ij6zv Lalor is being talked up as a pick 1 prospect, with Jagga the one to slide. Idk who the crows will take but its not locked to Draper is what I meant. I dont think Draper is another crouch/Laird necessarily, hes quicker and more agile, but he is an accumulator who doesnt do a lot of damage. He would be an ok fit alongside Reid/Hewett who are impact players.

[@tracykuvekalovic3213]

WC should be trying to complicate the Baker deal, not base our entire trade and draft strategy around his acquisition. Complicating the Baker trade by taking 7+8 for 3+14 might just save WC from themselves by making it harder to acquire Baker. Every year there's a slider. 7+8 puts WC in prime position to take advantage.

[@Bally0207]

The ones I would do would be 3 for 4 and 28 Adelaide 3 for 15, 16, 21 plus a f3 gws 3 for 7 and 8 saints

[@markp2122]

Wouldn’t do the GWS option. Need grade A young talent, not volume

[@Bally0207]

@@markp2122 we could even there f1st if we send our f2nd would that help. Yes I agree we need top quality players. I recon the Adelaide option would be good.

[@flippineck6121]

@Bally0207 saints makes most sense couldn't see crows giving up a second rounder for a jump of 1

[@Bally0207]

@@flippineck6121 I do as they want Draper and we are willing to go down to get more picks.

[@BDub2024]

You won't get that much for pick 3 this year. The first 20 players are pretty even. Teams know that so will be less likely to give multiple picks unless they are really keen on someone.

[@stallon720]

Im all in on the Saints one, 3+14 for 7+8, with the saints adding steak knives of a late pick. We would more than likely get one of the mids, and then could take Travaglia. Id try and use the Hawks F1 we get for Barrass to make a Baker deal happen, or even offer it to Gold Coast for 12 Alternatively offer our F1 to someone to get back into this years draft again, we tried this last year to no success, should try again. GC pick 6 for our F1 with late picks to suit would be ideal.

[@jerryfelitios8398]

I bloody hope they do not split pick 3. Although, I think West Coast could do with Bo Allan. Pick three should be used for either Finn O'Sullivan, Jager Smith, or Sid Draper, whoever is still available.

[@BDub2024]

Lalor would be a good one with his physicality to lend support to Harley. He is even more frightening.

[@bloodshot3697]

I would be trading picks to get Bolton, Baker, Robertson and Graham this year and have one pick between 10-20. We need midfield depth. Getting a young gun, is not going to help us retain Harley. We have 2 new young guns next year - Hewitt and Long. We need to climb up the ladder now and keep 2 first rounds next year for Warner. That is going to get us into the 8 in 2026 Our midfield would consist of in 2026 - Warner, Reid, Bolton, Baker, Robertson, Yeo, Kelly, Duggan, Ginbey, Hewitt, Graham.

[@BDub2024]

Eagles don't have the draft picks to trade for those guys. Richmond will want more than pick 3 for Bolton. Baker will be 13 (but only if we trade Barrass). Robertson may be worth our pick in the 2nd round. So the result would be one pick in round 4 for the 2024 national draft. Remember we only have 3 picks in the first four rounds this year. I agree that Harley needs a good ruckman and support in midfield. But Eagles also need to recruit young talent in.

[@BDub2024]

Pick 3 may be worth pick 9 and 16. Which will end up 11 and 20 approx. Mainly because the top 20 is very even this year. So giving up pick 3 won't be worth as much unless clubs are really keen. If we want a power athlete then Lalor may be left at 3 and he would add a lot of strength to the middle with Harley and the end of Yeo.

[@seanchristie7150]

Fantastic episode, still not sure about a pick split, same as I wasn't last year 💙💛🏆🦅

[@BDub2024]

you'll only get later first round picks for a split, unless a side is particularly keen. That's because the top 20 are apparently pretty even so there is less incentive for sides to trade multiple picks for 3.

[@seanchristie7150]

@@BDub2024 exactly why the split is dubious

[@BDub2024]

@@seanchristie7150 We just need to somehow get extra draft picks in. The preferable approach is trading some guys that are on the fringes of our top 23. But then again that may be 3rd and 4th round picks and we'd be weaker losing guys. But we need to get the balance right in getting talented kids in the door and same time strengthening the midfield and ruck quickly.

[@seanchristie7150]

@BDub2024 happy to use later picks, we have had a strong record with them in the past. A very fine line with trading n draft which is not an exact science

[@drdc22]

Media reporting Neal Bullen and peatling both going for second rounders. WCE should trade Baker for a second rounder or walk away. He is a utility, a year from free agency - he just isnt worth more than that. Pick 14 will have a much greater influence on our next premiership than Baker, its obviously not a smart long term move to trade it

[@trship6274]

The Woke Coast Eagles have got to win this draft and stop being the nice guys.

[@eaglefruit]

Richmond acting like Essendon asking way overs for baker, bolton and rioli.

[@drdc22]

Can anyone provide a comp that suggests baker is worth a first rounder?

[@startupdiaries]

You’re not getting 6 from Richmond.

[@repfity11]

Tigers would be looking at ways to land both FOS and Jagga Doing that trade will probably be that

[@sleekism23]

I like the Richmond one

[@mrgedavies]

I love your work but you have an understanding of this year's draft crop which must create self-doubts about your WCE/Rich suggestion. I know your videos are well supported by fellow Eagles but I feel you've sacrificed a little objectivity. Hypothetically cancel the exchange of pick 14s. The top 6 (this year) are pretty even so there's not a lot of difference between 3 and 6. Same can be said for 26 and 32 (this year). Which leaves WC getting Baker for nothing. Maybe some other year but not this one if Richmond have any intelligence. Having said that, I appreciate your lateral thinking and reality may not be far off what you've suggested.

[@LicensedGunn]

So much talk around eagles pick 1 split last year that didn't eventuate.

[@scottmeyers4856]

They can't keep splitting, we need a few superstars not a team of ginbeys who will be average solid players. That won't win a flag. We need a few more top shelf draft picks. Keep 3, take Langford, smith or Draper and move on.

[@flippineck6121]

while agree with not splitting picks. I think Ginbey will likely have a breakthrough season in 25 or 26 and be a superstar.

[@Ben-ij6zv]

​@@flippineck6121agree but not in the midfield

[@iangarlett6408]

Ginbey is only in his second year and you're shit talking him? Holy shit dude get a grip

[@scottmeyers4856]

@iangarlett6408 are u for real?? Hardly smack talking him, simply calling it how it is. He's extremely average compared to Sheezel, perhaps get ur dumb head out of the sand "dude"

[@scottmeyers4856]

@flippineck6121 hope he does, sheezel is almost there already.

[@BDub2024]

It looks like we will get pick 13 for Barrass which will be pick 15 or later probably. We may get a second or third round pick thrown in. Then give that draft pick for Baker and we may get a third round pick too. We lose Barrass and get Baker and possibly get 2 third round picks thrown in. We also get a fourth round pick for Darling. May lose Rotham to free agency for nothing.

[@Mr2hotpepper]

I honestly think keep 3 and take Draper - I’ve got a gut feeling this guys gonna be a gun

[@BDub2024]

Lalor would be good.

[@stigmatasw]

Why dont we offer Sydney Barrass for Warner. Straight swap, 2 quality players. They could of used Barrass in the GF. Then we keep our picks

[@JMMM1986]

You’ve got to be kidding me 😭

[@johnpickles349]

The Dees need to trade up in an effort to secure a solid midfielder to replace Petracca and or Oliver.

[@stallon720]

Theyd get one with pick 5

[@jasonbeck3814]

Pick 3 for saints pick 8 and 9.then they take lalor and bo allen

[@jlrob85]

Pick 3 for Warner

[@scottmeyers4856]

All this crap about baker for 13 is doing my head in. Eagles need to be ruthless and walk him to the PSD

[@mrgedavies]

As a Richmond supporter that sounds great; we simply get Baker back or he goes to Freo for a better deal for us.

[@jogon9649]

He isn't worth a better pick then 18

[@scottmeyers4856]

@mrgedavies 🤣🤣🤣sif richmond would draft him back lmao. If by some absolute lunacy they did, he signs for 1 year and then becomes an unrestricted free agent and we get him for nothing again 🤣🤣🤣 what a twit

[@tracykuvekalovic3213]

@@mrgedavies Richmond won't take Baker back. It'd defy history in doing so. You can say Richmond will take him back because they have the opportunity, but I don't think the damage it does to their brand and culture makes it worth it. It negatively affects player loyalty to Richmond, as Richmond will be stopping a player that's fulfilled his contract to them and then stopping him from leaving when he wants out. There's nothing to lose for WC, as WC either get him for free this year, or Baker signs a 1 year deal with Richmond that takes him to free agency only to get to WC for free.

[@russellhanley4417]

Baker would be a nice fit, but not for pick 14.

[@RE-1997]

Heard pick 14 plus 61 for Baker 31 and 42 and 44 has been proposed

[@alancrnobrnja3955]

So basically we would be trading Barras for Baker, 31,42,44😂...... Terrible deal.

[@avy_moshie]

Need a Lalor or a smiley or jagga smith no let baker go to preseason there not going to pick him mitch

[@LegendOfTheLostLegend]

North Melbourne might pick him though

[@CoreyMARTIN-i5u]

I’m a StK supporter F-Off

[@LachieAuhl]

Dreaming on getting those picks 🤣

[@mickw1842]

What’s the latest on malakai champion. Surely if it looks like we will need to match a bid around pick 30 for him, we load up on draft picks before then. Richmond has 4 picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds they are unlikely to even use that all have points attached to them so we should collect a heap of these late picks as part of a baker trade to get him for a bargain. Works for everyone. Something like…. Eagles give picks 14, 33 (both from hawks) Richmond give baker, pick 24, 44, 50, 60 Draft night eagles get picks 3, 24, 26 and champion (hopefully)

[@stallon720]

He shouldnt be pick 30, hes probably pick 40-50, only thing that might bring him forward is the lack of small forwards in the draft