AFL TRADE RUMOURS | Harley Reid, Bailey Smith, Brodie Grundy

[@JohnHenrySMH]

The draft has been broken for a while, in the last 3 drafts the best player in the draft has gone to a high ranking team: Ugle-Hagan, Daicos, Ashcroft.

[@SS.EDITS0]

Yes but daicos and Ashcroft were always going to brinsbane and colingwood because of father son pick

[@jesser5872]

@@SS.EDITS0doesn’t really change the fact that does inherently compromise the draft

[@jaredburgess8381]

​​@@jesser5872he father-son 'loophole' adds more to the league than it detracts. I think it'd be a shame to lose it even if my club hasn't been able to benefit from it.

[@jesser5872]

@@jaredburgess8381 eh idk i reckon it’s totally screwed over bottom teams over the last few years who should have access to the best players available in the draft

[@SilentHotdog28]

Collingwood have been a top 8 side for most of the last 20 years, we have not got many father son recruits that are top picks. Bulldogs have, yet they have been very up amd down.

[@JohnHenrySMH]

While I'd like to see WC pick him on principal and maintain the integrity of the draft, I think their rebuild needs to be so deep that they're much better off trading pick 1 for as many firsts and future firsts as they can get their hands on. I guess it depends on who else they want to target in the draft and how good a price they can get for the pick.

[@BDub2024]

If we can get 3 first round picks (including 2 top 10 picks) then they should go for it. But if the deal isn't there then keep the best player. Its just that we need a lot of kids through the system. I'd try to go hard at the draft this year with 8 recruits, including 5 in the top 30. But some reckon the Eagles should spread it out over 3 years to target a good West Aussie, father son or academy player in the future.

[@garfguy]

Agreed about Kane Cornes. It was a pretty disgraceful comment for someone in his position. If this sort of thing becomes widely acceptable, where do we draw the line? Would it be ok for the other prospective top 10 picks to say no to WC too? We really need to work hard to protect whatever integrity the draft has left

[@murraydrage4601]

thanks for your content, love your analysis!! kane cornes has lots of history being disrespecful, disgraceful, towards anyone who isn't port adealaide!! and the more you don't listen to him the less respect he gets, short term memory loss on port in recent history. every club goes thru the down cycle, it is the designed outcome of the draft system. the eagles have just had unprecedented injuries to their senior and top end talent, take 10-15 of the best players out of any team and see what results happen. no excuses though west coast will sort thru the injury crisis and employ world leaders in their program as they have done before, wc have a big hole in their 22-26 yo playing group with several underperforming draftees, select as many top end kids you can thru draft , keep top end older players for experience for next 2-3 yrs and draft in top end free agents in 2-3 yrs, finals in 5 yrs!!

[@jaredburgess8381]

If it was a kid declining Port Adelaide you can be absolutely CERTAIN that Kane Cornes would have a wildly different opinion than the one he's expressing at the moment.

[@stevelewis2080]

The Harley Reid rumour has been debunked, he, his coach, his manager have all said he’s happy to go to West Coast. And listening to Rohan O’Brien, it sounds like they’re wanting to draft him if they have pick #1. Sam McClure lied and backpedaled on Footy Classified, then Jon Ralph just wrote an article in the Herald Sun that debunked McClure. Reid will be an Eagle if WC have pick 1

[@emperorzorg2786]

Im cool with that

[@jarradbaker8200]

There better off offering pick 1 up for multiple first rounders

[@stevelewis2080]

@@jarradbaker8200 no they’re not. Trading down and splitting a pick, although increasing the volume of talent, also increases the risk of picking an inferior player or a bust, ie Jarod Brander. Reid is as close to a sure thing as you can get in a draft, and West Coast need best player available

[@jarradbaker8200]

@@stevelewis2080 too bad if reid does a horne- francis on them tho

[@jarradbaker8200]

Id be asking the question of GWS, who hold richmonds pick too, so they might have picks 5 and 8 to swap for pick 1, its a pretty good draft so youd be getting 2 pretty good players

[@jlrob85]

Bring back the rule where rookies sign for 5 years and can’t move until after 4.

[@drbosommd]

To be honest West Coast need a few very good players not just one . West coast should trade the number one pick for a few top ten picks . Melbourne for example will probably have pick 4 and pick 14 . If I was West Coast I’d say to the Dees if you can trade the pick 14 up to something closer to a top 8 pick and maybe a second round pick we will do the deal .

[@smoothbeak]

Love the Obi-Wan reference

[@Deathnote7969]

Let's draft Harley Reid. Who gives a toss what an 18 year old hypothetically thinks. Tom Barrass for Sydney's first to draft Curtin.

[@mason2317]

perfect

[@BDub2024]

We can keep Barras and still get Curtin. Barrass won't go anywhere. Unfortunately Hedwards and McGovern are so injury prone that getting rid of Barrass would open the flood gates to massive losses. Actually Barrass would only go if offered a 5 year deal on big money by Sydney. What could happen is that Eagles pay his salary, then Sydney top it up even more. Barrass would then be the most highly paid defender in the game. Hopefully we'd get a few early picks from it. But realistically why would he leave?

[@bazparkes6516]

Thankfully there's been a lot of news today about Reid's campy/management refuting the claims. McClure also heavily backtracked.

[@roberto5580]

Goodwin never said he wanted to play Grundy as a forward at AFL level. Just wanted him to improve his forward craft so he has more impact while he rests there 50% of the time. Clarified that in his presser yesterday. (Though didn't need clarification if you watched the first presser the media were reporting on)

[@timpreston2419]

was keen to hear your thoughts on the Harley situation, my biggest thing is we had judd for a few yhears and turned him into kennedy soooooo

[@bulldog9708]

Unless the side Reid wants to go to has pick 1 in 2025 then West Coast should select Reid and run with it. He would be worth more after 2 years on trade or he decides Perth is pretty good and I want to stay. Can’t see a downside there

[@mason2317]

reid said it was BS and that McClure made it up, bloody vics mate i tell ya.

[@BDub2024]

Its just a made up story re Harley Reid. I don't think we should necessarily even go for him. He's a mature boy and won't necessarily out muscle everyone at AFL level. Only disadvantage with these stories is that it undermine Eagles effort to trade one draft pick for multiple draft picks. I consider it a super draft so there is a lot of talent in top end.

[@buddysally886]

Draft is pointless if the best teams just get the best pick anyway

[@Chuckakhan]

What I think the Bombers should do re: ben McKay is offer 850k provided that norf kick in a couple hundred grand themselves.

[@Chuckakhan]

Harley Reid has got good taste then

[@baileywebb6262]

Same mf saying players have too much power in contract negotiations and can force clubs into longer contracts than is fair, is also the bloke saying draftees should pick their club.

[@spindoctor6385]

Refusing to go to West Coast would be a silly move, they are one of the best resourced clubs around, the supporters show up win lose or draw and they have the habbit of winning flags at regular intervals when they are "up" You can argue whether that has any bearing on the future but some clubs win flags others don't.

[@BDub2024]

Resourcing doesn't mean much now because of the soft salary cap. So we're just paying normal footy dept money out really, to avoid us paying a soft salary cap tax. So it will probably stop us from rebounding up the ladder as quickly as previously. Remember in the past we paid big money to the likes of Daniher Walsh Burns etc... even Voss got a monster offer as assistant before he went to Brisbane as coach.

[@spindoctor6385]

@@BDub2024 I think West Coast should make more use of their financial strength. Break the soft cap, hire another two assistant coaches for a three - four year period, accept the fine and see if it yeilds positive results. I am surprises no club has done it yet.

[@davefrancis4529]

Draft picks choosing destination isn’t new, behind closed doors it is painfully obvious this has occurred in the past with players like Nic Naitanui. Last I heard Geelong was the destination for Doedee too. (He’s from Geelong area). I personally don’t believe the Bailey Smith rumor to Geelong and think it was used to force Parish to indicate his intentions.

[@jaredburgess8381]

The issue with Geelong is that you can buy a specky waterfront/beach home for less than a million bucks so their salaries all go a lot further than anywhere nice in Perth, Melbourne, Sydney or Brisbane. I'm less aware of Adelaide real estate so I won't try and bullshit but I reckon they'd be less pricey, too, given that Rankine is Adelaide Crows' most highly paid player at $800K. Geelong, if they were smart (and they are) would show players what their salaries can actually purchase when they pitch to them. This is why they have a seemingly inexhaustible supply of high-end talent at their club. Kinda pisses me off but whatever...

[@LaurenandScott]

Curtin at 1 now.

[@evan08rhys09]

As an outsider looking at the Eagles, I'd seriously consider swapping pick 1 (and maybe pick 19) for 3 top 15 picks. Gives them the best chance to get 3 good kids for the future or 2 and use 1 top 15 pick for a mature experienced player

[@awaken3202]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Syd traded its first rounder for Barras, We be consistent with our history of getting bent over in trade negotiations.

[@BDub2024]

Barrass won't go anywhere. Unfortunately Hedwards and McGovern are so injury prone that getting rid of Barrass would open the flood gates to massive losses. Actually Barrass would only go if offered a 5 year deal on big money by Sydney. What could happen is that Eagles pay his salary, then Sydney top it up even more. Barrass would then be the most highly paid defender in the game. Hopefully we'd get a few early picks from it. But realistically why would he leave? Unless its a long contract on one and a half amount.

[@Bradcheney]

What I reckon should happen the afl should get rid of academy’s saying this cause SA we have an academy unlike Victoria we don’t have FirstChoice to SA talent.. secondly when it comes to father son like discos, Ashcroft etc if the club wants keep there father / son player they must give up there first round picks not just round 5, 6, 7 picks that’s how the afl is so Lope-sided. Also the afl should stop clubs like Geelong, Richmond etc stretching out contracts to fit more high quality players under contract

[@mason2317]

Im praying we turn Barrass's value into drafting Daniel Curtin, a young West Australian Key Defender is so important to have for a rebuild.

[@BDub2024]

Barrass won't go anywhere. We may get at least 2 top 10 picks and maybe another later first round if we trade our pick 1. Unfortunately Hedwards and McGovern are so injury prone that getting rid of Barrass would open the flood gates to massive losses. Actually Barrass would only go if offered a 5 year deal on big money by Sydney. What could happen is that Eagles pay his salary, then Sydney top it up even more. Barrass would then be the most highly paid defender in the game. Hopefully we'd get a few early picks from it. But realistically why would he leave?

[@babylemonade2868]

They should have made that sook JHF see out his contract. If he didn’t want to play they should have chucked him in the 2’s for the year then got rid of him. Kane Cornes is just as bigger knob than McClure

[@SilentHotdog28]

WCE will likely be top 4 in a few years, you have a lot of youth that are getting games in the AFL and they will have gelled by then. WCE are a big club, I don't see why young prospects would not want to go to West Coast. I think WCE will become a destination club.

[@Letmetellyousomethin1]

Coming from a victorian i think the media is an absolute disgrace at the moment. The only analysts i enjoy watching is lloyd and lyons.

[@jeritron74]

Hawks might try to deal with the Eagles for Reid. Pick 3 plus Granger Barass and Brockman. Maybe another pick. Two W.A boys that are both young. Reports have suggested that Brockman may ask to go home ay the end of the year and the Eagles were wanting him in his draft year. Denver pick 6 is another that may want to play consiatent footy. Both would help the Eagles rebuild for the next few years.

[@crazyninjagamer7541]

I honestly think they would be thankful just to be playing AFL it's not easy to get in so I think it's a bit stupid. If he leaves for Victoria in a couple seasons thats fair

[@BDub2024]

Its just made up. We don't want to weaken our trading hand, as clubs might say to Eagles that Reid won't go to Eagles and therefore they won't offer as many draft picks as a swap.

[@brentongittos1692]

Fake news buddy! Harley's happy to go anywhere as long as he plays

[@1963patto]

What's your thoughts on what the hawks will do? I think we need a key forward and a key defender

[@mundanenames9752]

We will get will mcabe as father son for the key defender so pick 3 can be on a key foward. If not trade one in and spend 3 on best available talent ie watson or durrsma

[@BDub2024]

Hawks are well coached and following a good plan. But I think despite rebuilding with youth for a couple of years, it will be a long journey before the get anywhere near the finals. So I'd keep blooding players and getting talent and support to their kids. Just think of a gradual rebuild.

[@1963patto]

I'm hearing ricardi from GWS

[@jeritron74]

Getting McCabe as a father/son is a big bonus. Atm McCabe is ranked as a first rounder. Hopefully Hawks pick one of Watson, Kercher or Durssma. Personally hope they pick up Watson, small but an electric small forward that the Hawks need.

[@BDub2024]

@@jeritron74 They should be aiming at being mid table by 2025 and start pushing towards the finals in 2026. It needs a sensible long term build. Mitchell will need to remain patient. Being a Hawthorn legend he'll be given five years at least to get the team into finals contention.

[@BDub2024]

I reckon Sheed and Gaff will probably move on. Difficult for Yeo now do to recurring leg issues (probably due to pounding running style). Darling could also be traded elsewhere if he wants to play for 2 more years. Freo would have really benefited from Harley Reid as he is a big bodied midfielder, but they gave draft picks away. Melb will go after him for sure and they have at least 2 first round picks. Eagles would benefit from having another ruckman with experience. Doesn't have to be a star. It will just help our youngsters out and allow a break at times. There are a few youngsters that the EAgles really need to step up. Including Bazzo HEdwards Maric JWilliams. If those kids can improve then it takes the pressure off trading for key position. We can choose the best player rather than being desperate in choosing for a position.

[@BrandonStephen-p6q]

Stuff the Eagles. North ,Gold Coast, freo,Carlton, essndon, gws, Saints and crows need help not tankers Eagles!

[@kris0508]

Sounds like propaganda too me 😂😂 bloody vics

[@mason2317]

yes your right its all BS! Vics cant believe a Victorian prospect will go to WA.

[@spindoctor6385]

Baily Smith is a good footballer at his best but he is a risk. I hope Hawthorn do not go after him.

[@molewil7557]

a risk how? If you're referring to his partying, all players get on the gear - he was just dumb enough to record himself doing it.

[@George-xb5ey]

What if I told you Big J daniher has a sniff here and there coz I've seen the pic

[@BDub2024]

Its just made up because the journos didn't have any big stories. So make one up.