African Students Debate Racism in 1950s

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Four exchange students in the USA debate prejudice and racism and apartheid : from the Gold Coast (now known as Ghana), we have Alfred Bannerman. Representing South Africa, Dicks Loubser. Nigeria is represented by Mohammed Liman, and Nebiat Tafari represents Ethiopia.
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[@k-dwanks2481]

You should do, I'd love to get your reaction

[@leg414]

Yes research and see a series of these and make some more. You can make a difference. Peace

[@Black_unity597]

Maam with all due respect, are you not understanding what apartheid was and the evil that was done to Black Africans under that regime! There was nothing good about those whites they all were evil ever since whites have come in contact with any indigenous people they have committed atrocities against those people! It’s almost like you are blind just like the white kid on the stage he can’t see that they are wrong and evil you can’t see that the whites were evil and that’s the major problem we have today whites can not see the evil they do and why we are having a hard time fixing this mess whites have created!!

[@viniciuscrispim3741]

I like this type of video. I think you should do another one. I'm that Brazilian guy who commented on your community note "ABOUT how many instances there were of Italians being lynched in the South between 1890 and 1924?", 4 months ago about that video that was removed about the supreme court decision. I recommended one of these exchange student interviews even though you said in the previous video that your friend Dan introduced you to this playlist, I think you didn't have time to watch it. I think you were busy with your "be a good ancestor" project. I'm glad you found these videos. Here is the video that I recommended before and that I would like you to react to: "1958 High school exchange students: Brazil, Ethiopia, Italy, S. Africa." kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3-no6RtaM1qitE The students in this video come from Brazil, South Africa, Italy and Ethiopia. You will notice that South Africans and Ethiopians have a very uniform opinion with their compatriots. It almost feels like someone told them what to say. Susie appears in another video. Note: For some reason KZbin removed my previous comment. I'm not sure if it was because of a term I mentioned or because I put various links in the comment. So if you want to see the comment I made 4 months ago, you'll have to find it.

[@ReshonBryant]

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[@Ghost-eo6jb]

Ethiopian history is very different. The word Negro had no meaning there. They were never colonized, so they kept all their traditions and history. Ethiopia is the second oldest Christian nation in the world. You go there, and it's like stepping into a different world.

[@mstr293]

I also think it’s because Ethiopians and the rest of East Africans are more related to North Africans like Egyptians than they are their West African neighbors.

[@joselopez-kx3sm]

i find it odd they brought up the white colonialism and enslavement but not the muslims. even though they did the same things as the christian whites

[@hwgray]

@@mstr293: "Ethiopians and the rest of East Africans are more related to North Africans like Egyptians than they are their West African neighbors." What are you trying to say? That Ethiopians and Eritreans are whiter than other sub-Saharan Africans, as black Americans are?

[@clementmckenzie7041]

@@mstr293 No they are actually the exact same genetic group as Kenyans. They are Nilotic Africans the same genetic group as Barack Obama and Lupita Nyungo. They are not Bantus like Michelle Obama or most Diaspora Africans but they are not Arabic though many in the Northern regions have a lot of Arabic admixture. Yes they are the same people as ancient Egyptians but not modern urban Egyptians.

[@clementmckenzie7041]

Parts of Ethiopia were indeed colonized by the Italians prior to World War 2 by Mussolini. The parts that are today Etria Ethiopia is presently the oldest continuously Christian nation in the world as Syria, which would have held that title has not been a Christian nation since the 12th century. Ethiopia was the second nation to adopt Christianity as its national religion after Syria and long before Rome. Ethiopia was never entirely colonized however that does not mean that they were not influenced by the colonial powers of the 19th century, who preferred to not see them as a black people so as not to concede that a black people could have built such an advanced and ancient culture.

[@danschneider7531]

It's ridiculous if they are flagging you for words used by kids 70 years ago. Using historically apt words and ideas is essential to learning history.

[@timeforchange3786]

They are trying to erase and rewrite history

[@mzalchemy9236]

This 👆🏾

[@parkertufts5251]

It's probably flagged simply for talking about race without reciting the current PC anti racist dogma.

[@tomservo75]

The woke left: "Stop 'banning' books, we need to teach about all history, including slavery! Also the woke left: "Don't use historically accurate words because I like to get offended on behalf of people like blacks who would get nowhere without elite white people like myself helping them!"

[@deemaverick987]

Flagged, if you were Black they will suspend your account for a number of days. Facebook is SO RACIST.

[@annelisekock8930]

As a South African coloured, I found it hard to stomach what the white boy was saying, how he justified what has been done. Certainly, this is how he, as a child has been indoctrinated by his parents to the point that he believed it, without rationally thinking for himself. I love how the guys from the other countries tear down his believes, especially the guy from the Gold Coast, he is very well informed.

[@ReshonBryant]

"At first I was not prejudiced against whites. I was prejudiced against fellow Africans."🎯

[@UnknownUser-em3sx]

It was as it was. White told true.

[@halfnorfolk5310]

@@UnknownUser-em3sxThe white boy told what he thought was true. It was true to him because this was his reality living in a country that espouses white supremacy, racism, and segregation (apartheid)….amazingly, on a black continent in a black country where he and his brethren are outnumbered and truthfully considered the foreigners (the anomaly).

[@leenam.4578]

When you think of North America, you should think of Native Americans, not whites. Botha got the idea of homelands from the the concept of reservations in North America. Most other countries colonized by others managed to evict their colonizers with their own culture intact. Sadly, Native American culture was largely supplanted by European culture.

[@moremiaj4786]

Gold Coast is actually Ghana. The whites called it gold coast because there was an over-abundance of gold there. The people wore gold as if they were stones..... And the West became rich off of looting that gold. The very progressive Ghanaians renamed themselves their own name. I am so proud of Ghanaians. They have always been the most progressive South Saharan Africans. I adore those people.

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

South Africa is a strange place. It had white “replacement culture “. They wanted Native Africans to serve them and like it.

[@mitchyoung93]

This is true. Now there is Orania, where whites do all the jobs.

[@parkertufts5251]

Bizarro modern US

[@BluEx22329]

Same stuff in usa

[@parkertufts5251]

@@BluEx22329 In USA whites are discriminated against at every level. Maybe it seems to you like we want native Africans to serve us, but I assure you that we would rather be served by other white people. This includes nurses, wait-staff, care workers, everything. You can see the disappointment and disgust in the eyes of the old folks who have to listen to their care workers today. The reason black folks are concentrated in service jobs is simple. The majority of black folks have intelligence fit for simple service work. No offense that's just the truth.

[@parkertufts5251]

@@BluEx22329 Lol no

[@SBEtherwave]

As an African American, I really appreciate this video because it showcases specific perspectives that are rarely heard and it really turns a light on in my mind in connecting lost points of contact between us here in the states and those of us in Mainland Africa (a term I hope catches on.) I want to see a brighter future for my people and in general the world. And cocurrently I watch and listen to many different perspectives to gaguge a wide understanding of the greater issues and the very important intrisic issues that make us who we are as a people. I thank you for your work because it certainly adds to the effort. ❤

[@Qhawe_Jameson.]

As a South African (Nguni) this is a very interesting video, interesting to see how Ghana stood up for us, at this point in time in history our grandparents were being violently and forcibly moved from their lands, subjugated to cheap exploited labourers, denied eccess to any form of privilege such as education and it's surprising to see that Boers/Afrikaaner propaganda as to portray Africans as incompetent primitives, despite the fact that they were defeated repeatedly for over a 100 years by the Xhosa people when they tried to encroach upon their land in the Western/Eastern Cape, and because of the industrial revolution which gave them the advantage they Europeans were able to colonise Africa, before that Europeans were defeated repeatedly by Africans because there were no primitive backward people in Africa but sophisticated political structures and kingdoms that's why it took them almost 400 years to colonize Africa. Africa was conquered by European imperialism only in the late 19th and early 20th century and by 1960s colonial period was over but we still battling neocolonialism today.

[@clivematthews95]

Very true

[@ScottyBennitone]

Funny because your own precious kings lived in luxury while the tens of millions of your own were either starved to death , were killed, or sold as slaves. Your entire continent was ran by a few long before Europeans even got there. WHO sold the slaves to Europeans?? How did they get them? Dr Tony Martin. Look him up to find the truth or keep staying ignorant.

[@user-kv5gh6le6y]

It took 400 years to conquer Africa because Africa simply killed white people very quickly. They fared about as well with the virulent diseases and pests of Africa as the American natives fared with smallpox. Dying is very inconvenient for your conquering agenda.

[@lolnoob5015]

You have such good understanding of history.

[@blackberry4life482]

💯💯💯🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@japeri171]

It is very useful to know what people of different ethnicities and nationalities thought decades ago. The conversation took place completely without filter.

[@vieblu53]

Africa as a continent has suffered through centuries of plunder. A seeming lack of progress is the result. The brutality inflicted by Europeans upon black Africans was astonishing especially for people who claim to be "civilized"

[@ScottyBennitone]

maybe because when they arrived Europe had built Rome , Greece, Britain and several other developed nations and civilizations, while nowhere in Africa had the wheel, irrigation, or fresh water supplies. If Africa was so great and those people are so civilized, Ive heard people say life began there, then why are the millenia behind in every measurable standard??? Clearly whites didnt hold them back before they had ever arrived...

[@thezu9250]

The scary part is that they pretend like there was no civilization prior to that. Yes, some places were poor just like everywhere else in the globe but they definitely had civilizations. They had to destroy those things to gain power. There’s a reason it took several hundreds of years. Just the transatlantic slave trade destabilized populations. Even the enslavers eventually found themselves sold or enslaved on their own land.

[@timdillard9634]

Insanity. Africa may have suffered, but not due to Europeans. On the contrary, It has improved because of European presence there. For instance, compare life expectancy in Africa before and after European colonialism.

[@nettricegaskins1871]

I visited Johannesburg earlier this year. The British were open to working with native South Africans but the Dutch were a different story. We visited the Apartheid Museum, Soweto and other places. We learned that during Apartheid, the white (Afrikaners) moved about freely but the natives had to carry pass books and, if they didn't carry them, they were jailed or worse. This maintained a status quo. In 1976 Soweto youth protested the 1953 Bantu Education Act that brought African education under control of the government and extended apartheid to black schools. The young man from South Africa was selling a story but it wasn't the truth. Not by a long shot.

[@duchesstyra]

💯 true

[@hadast3806]

The Dutch, Germans and French were the worst colonizers in my opinion. The most harsh, hellbent on forcing the local population to lose their cultures and never wanted to leave! The only exception was the British in Kenya and Rhodesia, they enacted a lot of violence there.

[@zeged]

@@hadast3806Not English? I would say Belgium

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@zegedThe Belgian Congo was pretty bad. I don't know if the British were better.

[@resphantom]

@@hadast3806 And the British in New Zealand whiping a group of natives, and whiping another group in Australia. Murica..also British. And then there was the British concentration camps in South Africa and South Africa was part of the British Union until 1961, after that it became a republic. Britian also got involved with India, there is a reason why Durban, port in South Africa has the second largest population of Indians. However, let's not forget about the masacres of the Africans, with the many tribal wars from the Zulu's whiping out entire tribes, causing a massive shift of inhabitants. This was known as "the Mfecane"

[@fireofhislove3395]

It is very encouraging to see a strong woman sharing real history.

[@JashuaChristela-nc4hr]

So are you saying it would be less encouraging if she was a guy. I would not think that would matter.

[@fireofhislove3395]

@@JashuaChristela-nc4hr A woman empowered with the truth is to be admired and celebrated in a society that belittles them.

[@joselopez-kx3sm]

i find it odd they brought up the white colonialism and enslavement but not the muslims. even though they did the same things as the christian whites.

[@JashuaChristela-nc4hr]

I still dont understand, why it matters wether it is a female or male. But I dont think, you will be able to understand. I am gueessing you are from the usa, did you know that in Europe we dont even talk about these things anymore, it is so last century to even mention, wether some one doing something is male or female. We value you by your skills, not your sex. @@fireofhislove3395

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@JashuaChristela-nc4hr It shouldn't matter but in our society it does.

[@StopTheLiess]

Ethiopia was NEVER colonized to refer to themselves as a negro or black. We don’t have any other cultural influence within the country. Italy also invaded Ethiopia twice with the help of the British the second time and we defeated them both times BY OUR SELVES.

[@julieennis6929]

We grew up with the stories. I marched and protested against Apartheid in SA. You are discovering what me my parents and grandparents parents discussed as we all grew up. You are taking in much quickly. And yes our history and our struggles are trying to be quieted.

[@andreabrown4541]

As did I in the Midwest at NU and later the UofC.

[@nicolasjuandecardenas7921]

The fact that they are so open discussing this topic is awesome.

[@Dan-xx5jq]

The Gold Coast, which i believe is Ghana, have always have had very intelligent folk. i am from Kenya, and we admired them.

[@nytn]

Yes you are right! Also, hi! My dad spent a few weeks in Kenya a few times when I was a kid. One of his friends even came back to the States with him and stayed with us for a few weeks. I learned to count to 10 in Swahili!

[@duchesstyra]

@@nytn 👏🏾 👏🏾

[@moremiaj4786]

Ghana has always had very smart, very bright, just superiorly educated people. I was so impressed by the Ghanaian guy... and calling him Nene was ridiculous. Its Nana not nene. Also using an Hausa guy from northern nigeria to represent Nigeria was super strategic because the British favored the Hausa due to how easy they were to dominate and because the Northern Nigerians were very comfortable with the British subjugating the southern Nigerians. But on the whole, northern nigerians lack a lot of education. See that mumu coming over there to talk about his hatred of christians...... as if christians did anything to northern nigerians and as if it wasnt whites he should direct his ire towards.

[@redsak5311]

The name could also be Nii….just throwing that out there.

[@brakwame5629]

​@@moremiaj4786Nene was the right name... not Nana ..

[@sallyvasquez6897]

I have a friend in our neighborhood who is from Gambia and he told me that he didn't know what racism was until he moved to the U.S. Being of Mexican descent myself, I have never dealt with racism. It's all from the pit of hell. Since I was a child, I like to see people from the eyes of God. Glory to Him.

[@stephenjames2690]

The Gold Coast teen illustrates that, because he knows about discrimination, he tries to look and act his best so he's not lumped in with the discriminated. That's still relatively common. Though, nowadays, some African immigrants will continue to wear traditional dress on ceremonial occasions. The comment about haircuts still applies today. A look at the photos on the front of the hairdresser's will give you a clue whether they deal with your type of hair.:) The only exception to this in NYC are Dominican hair salons and barber shops. If it grows out of a human head, they can style it.

[@nytn]

I miss living in NY! I used to take a train into the city to get great haircuts 😭

[@stephenjames2690]

@@nytn Your comment about changing your hair color reminded me of the 60's Clairol commercials with the tag line "If you have only one life, live it as a blond." It seems that a small decision on hair color or type can have a large influence.

[@JacintaS.]

Yes. Playing the game of identity politics.

[@nytn]

I never would have believed it until I tried!

[@michaelsmith-ws2mb]

Plenty of black barber shop that cut white hair. When u get your license u practice on heads with white hair. It’s not just Latinos.

[@ddr.5959]

I've only got to the start of the South African guy and it brought so many memories back of listing to their nonsense when I was a kid.

[@duchesstyra]

These people are delusional

[@ReshonBryant]

Christian: How do you put up with it? Me: Discipline. I don't just fly off the rails at every little trespass.

[@johnnyearp52]

​@@duchesstyra If you want to see yourself as good while you are repressing people you have to be a bit delusional.

[@almightyswizz]

I remember watching this and being so shocked at the Ethiopian kid, but I was glad to have seen so many different perspectives from the past on this topic in their real time

[@solonfuller7478]

It's strange to see people use a term call negro on themselves. That word is the same as the n-word.

[@zaynosman5162]

Trust me Ethiopians(Habesha) know how to lie. They believe they are not black and have had slaves, they even have slur for black people 'bariyya' . Never trust em

[@evag4535]

They actually called the Ethiopians the black Caucasians 😅😅😅and also, the sun burned Hebrew😅😅😅

[@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533]

​@@evag4535Who's 'they'? Haile Selassie referred to himself as caucasion.

[@evag4535]

@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 and so what if he did, he sure as hell wasn’t a Caucasian….I’m sure he eventually learned that too.

[@HardcoreFourSix]

regardless of the topic, I am impressed with the ability of all four of these High School students to have an intelligent, civil discussion about a very serious issue.

[@ReshonBryant]

Dude said whites didn't know Blacks existed until 1652💀

[@majorlazor5058]

I don’t know how civil the white was. He indirectly called the gold coast teen stupid.

[@user-kv5gh6le6y]

@@ReshonBryant Not that I have any reason to believe him but what he said was that there wasn’t any African people on the lands of South Africa when whites first settled there.

[@MichaelWalker-de8nf]

This series is amazing. Thank you so much ❤

[@moonbay2399]

Ethiopia and Italy Italy tried to colonize Ethiopia .But the Ethiopian fought back so they were never colonized by Italy . That's why I imagine there's some animosity there between Ethiopians and Italian.

[@rrsiiipineal]

Black Americans helped fight Italians.

[@edidiongokoro5212]

No they where Africans​@@rrsiiipineal

[@inko002]

Actually they were partially colonized. The Italians colonized the region Eritrea which is the entire coast. Eritrea gained independence in 90s but until then it was part of Ethiopia

[@kickrocks71]

@@rrsiiipineal yes that is true.

[@StopTheLiess]

@@rrsiiipinealno they didn’t!

[@elleanna5869]

As an African who happens to be "melanated" and as a citizen from a country that is a former British colony, I will *never* allow anybody to decree my identity and belittle it to skin tone. Let alone any offensive word. I hope the US will eventually break the cage of crayon and race mentality.

[@Dan-xx5jq]

Elon Musk grew up in South Africa under this system. His school was not mixed.

[@duchesstyra]

Yes that’s why his family left as soon as black people took the power back from the whites

[@TS-zu4hv]

Explains a lot of his work.

[@Atitanasteelers]

The part about the “gentleman’s agreement” keeping blacks from buying land but not being an actual law you can prove on paper in court. Is just everything I think some people need to hear.

[@clementmckenzie7041]

Did you know that black GI's were denied access to their GI bill benefits?

[@ReshonBryant]

Yup😉

[@Charles-tt3dr]

Yep!! My grandfather fought in WW2 & was denied the same GI benefits that were given White soldiers..

[@gagoomt4076]

@@Charles-tt3drsimply disgusting! Yet many Americans of a certain hue act like everyone had the same opportunities and should just “get it together” when they have received free land and help from day one. I hate American history it is so unfair and ugly.

[@rroadmap]

No, I didn't know! That's awful!

[@ms.keyshawineglass7590]

Yes, my grandfather was one of the WWII vets denied the GI Bill.

[@tamiiagrisham6353]

Thank you I truly appreciate you for having a moment in history with us!!! What you share is so important and educational!! May GOD bless you and your family!!! Peace❤

[@EmanExplains]

You need to watch the one with Nigeria, Ethiopia, Ghana, and South Africa. It’s a good one.

[@tvs9978]

But this video does feature a Nigerian, Ethiopian, Ghanaian and SAn

[@EmanExplains]

@@tvs9978 there’s another one like this, it’s just as interesting if not more

[@Willow-cw9te]

@@tvs9978no it’s a particular video, and it has a different Nigerian guy, South African girl, Ghanaian girl and Ethiopian guy. The debate is very interesting, I was so proud of the Nigerian guy

[@Brightness_Lolo]

Title is 1957 high school debate.

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

South Africa studied Jim Crow in America.

[@josephimperatrice5552]

But South Africa never adopted Jim Crow's one drop rule.

[@brianvesta]

South Africa actually studied the cast system of India which is at least 3000yrs old....

[@josephimperatrice5552]

​@@brianvesta South Africa's race model also resembles the Latin American race model.

[@duchesstyra]

@@josephimperatrice5552 the one drop rule wasn’t adopted it’s actually the opposite in South Africa if you have one drop of anything that is your way of not being identified as black

[@Msspinnerb8]

@@josephimperatrice5552that wasn’t Jim Crow.

[@coreylevine8095]

Ethiopian have a bad history with Italian and Muslam because of what happen in World War II

[@RahsRant]

Because of Benito Mussolini the dictator is why.An old Ethiopian neighbor of mine in Chicago actually helped fly planes to defend Ethiopia.This was about 20yrs ago

[@Black_unity597]

@Corey sorry to inform you that it goes back farther then that 1492 when the Black Africans ruled Spain and brig them out of that plague showed them how to bury their dead brush their teeth and most importantly wash their a** hence ending the black plague!

[@ReshonBryant]

Not true. Ethiopia had had conflict with Islam well before WW2. King Caleb of Ethiopia is one such example. I don't feel like unpacking Rome because this is about Africa right now.

[@gagoomt4076]

@@ReshonBryantIslamic raids were commonplace in Ethiopia - Mohammad the Grand (a Somali) burned down Orthodox cathedrals hundreds of years ago. Still today Ethiopia has at least 30% of Muslim population they largely get along well for the most part. Most African countries have at least 50% Muslim/Christian population. In Senegal Christian and Muslim holidays are observed. Only in northern Nigeria in recent years have religious disputes turned violent. Most Africans live peacefully with Muslims and Christians.

[@ReshonBryant]

@@gagoomt4076 or you're just overcompensating because I'm right about what I said 😅

[@1love754]

I just have the overwhelming urge to hug these young people! I’m a white European woman, with roots to to the south. Wow how they are able to conduct themselves, that sure is missing today. And even as a woman who was living in different countries I would only barely feel equipped to hold a conversation as they did!

[@johnjohn458]

So what are you saying. Who is the people thats acting uncivilized today. Remember, that's 1950. Did you hear the need to pray before the discussion began. 9 million africans to 2 million white European. Come in and take over, then tell you how to live in your country. Come on I think its best we pray before we start the conversation even in 2024

[@gazoontight]

Fascinating. You MUST continue to review these old videos. This is very important information and no one else is doing this work but you. This material and everything else that you have covered on your channel is either ignored or glossed over in history classes. It’s not always easy to listen to, but it’s very important.

[@clivematthews95]

I totally agree

[@jesssteelo9166]

IN MY OPINION, white SA’s aren’t African. White Europeans came to a land they knew was almost entirely black, made themselves the “minority” all so that they could have a justified reason to reconstitute the land for their own gain. How do you go to someone else’s country and force the native people to separate themselves from you and to add insult to injury you steal the land, tell the denizens what they can and can’t do, and then set up governing bodies to dictate to the people how things are going to be run in a country you’re not from. You see colonization isn’t a western specific word it’s a white people word. Every variation of Brit from the Americans to Australians and not a single one can say a minority group has come to their land and changed the construct of the country in a generation.

[@ScottyBennitone]

IMO Black North Americans arent North American, theyre African. Such a dumb comment.

[@pierrecalderone]

Somebody's trying to bully you; to target you bc you put up something _educationally motivated_ is insulting. If you put up something softer, don't feel defeated; we're with you!

[@Drutzie]

FYI, the Ethiopian student does not like Italians, because Italy invaded Ethiopia in 1935 and tried to make it a colony. Much praise to the Ethiopians, they defeated the Italian army and is the only country in Africa that was not colonized by a Western power.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

NiNi schooled them all on here. This is still a debate on south Africa . Give the land back.

[@cocolyndon4604]

Ethiopia was never colonized. The race lable was placed on people by the white man. I can understand how he feels and thinks the way he does, his teachings were not European based. I saw this video a few years ago and there are others from this series on KZbin.

[@hwgray]

"Ethiopia was never colonized." Ethiopia was colonized by Italy.

[@Statuesqueglam]

​@hwgray Ethiopia was invaded and occupied by Italy, but never colonized.

[@hadast3806]

@@Statuesqueglamit was colonized for 5 years and many older Ethiopians speak Italian because of this. Where did you get your info from? Botswana was a protectorate that was never officially colonized.

[@Ariapeithes_]

​@@Statuesqueglam Every African country has been colonized, the only reason Ethiopia initially resisted European colonization by Germany, is because Ethiopia went to Britain for help...

[@taz09216]

Occupation is no colonization. The same way germany occupied france for a few years.@@hadast3806

[@anthonyjohnson9403]

I appreciate the video of African kids in the discussion. Thank you

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

Things have changed, believe me. I am 70years old. It is not perfect but definitely way better than during Jim Crow.

[@clementmckenzie7041]

That is a very low bar, things are better than when we used to beat you.

[@Dragoncam13]

@@clementmckenzie7041hell it’s still amazing for a minority now,much much more opportunities than even 40 years ago

[@warrenhalter9293]

I disagree with your statement. Nothing has changed as a matter of fact it's getting worse!

[@donnadozier4683]

I appreciate you Danielle for educating us on these issues of racism

[@THESURAFELB]

For the most part, Africans were actually not observant of the term 'Negro' until the physical experience in Jim Crow America. Even today, the term 'Black' is not quiet popular in certain parts of the continent. Rather the identification mechanisms are based on tribes and ethnic groups. However, the enlightened masses have exerted significant influences in breaking barriers to achieve a solid pan-Africanism which is still a process in progress.🔔

[@siphomnisi3842]

My guy if your country is 99% black, they will identify on ethnic lines

[@PepeFruit]

Hey! I just wanted to let you know that this showed up for me in Shorts. (I heard your concerns at the beginning)

[@danschneider7531]

It's interesting because I have gone to school and worked with Native Africans,, and most black Africans look down on black Americans as a sort of mixed people who they have little in common with. 1956 and 2023 are not as far apart as one might hope.

[@VeronicaDavis-zv3mo]

I am a black American and could care a less if the Africans hate me.That is being sincere!!!!! 💯

[@MoreOnPleeez]

​@@VeronicaDavis-zv3moThe whites in europe hate white americans too. They all hate us. We help them, we are the only ones who help other countries as much and as often as we do but no one likes us😂 i think they are jealous of us. You and I are both Americans. I wish we didn't think of ourselves as anything else but American. We are in this together. We need eachother because at the end of the day and when sht hits the fan, no country, not even our ancestors native country, will be there for us.

[@ReplyMNO]

@@VeronicaDavis-zv3mo You say this in reply to a random person on KZbin whose intentions you have no idea of. Well done and carry on.

[@Jordan-xg4pn]

Look down, is a negative thing in which they never said in this interview.

[@Dragoncam13]

I mean they’re not wrong,American blacks have little in common with Subsaharan. I’d argue the Gullah and Louisiana creoles would have the most in common but with our creoles the culture is inherently mixed with French and Spanish culture for for the Gullahs theirs are somewhat mixed with a bit of Native American culture

[@paulacopeland8360]

I am SHOCKED that you do not know about Italy invading Ethiopia and killing thousands upon thousands of Ethiopians. Also, thousands of black GI's were denied GI educational and mortgage benefits just because they were black.

[@nytn]

I do, I just slipped my mind! Super embarrassing 😭

[@franchesca7523]

I'm sorry - no I'm not, but you sound very disingenuous with this comment. It appears to me you're playing both sides of the fench by PRETENDING to not know.

[@nytn]

No, I am not. But thank you for assuming I would know, I appreciate it :)

[@bethel1242]

I'm new and still catching up with all your available content. I am glad that you receive outside related content. I have sent you several items myself. I'm certain the broad range of history, incidents, and various forums will give you both a progressive and broader inclusive knowledge base. You know of course, the toxic people that don't support you wrestle with hate & ignorance. I am a Christian also. However, we know that there are many deluded "Christians" that support & operate in hate. They command a visibility that make people forget the original mssg of love. There are many people who are not Christians but are both loving and open-minded.🙏🏽❤️ please focus on the good you are doing for so many. The hateful are simply doing their job.

[@intellectualnapalm_fba]

And THIS…. This thing you are feeling, Danielle. This emotion hitting your soul…. This is how 16 collective generations of black people feel/have felt. Our response to THAT THING you felt…. Is what white people judge us on. Our response to Abandonment, disrespect, dishonesty, imbalance, voicelessness, belittlement in front of our children, patronized, sadistic practices, culturelessness, and the list goes on…. And, especially if you COULD PASS, like your great grandmother, and you learned from the history of (what would have been in her time) 10 or 11 generations which preceded her…. GET AWAY IF YOU CAN…. Yeah, you’re going to take your pain, suppress it, and get as far away from THAT GENERATIONAL CURSE/TRAUMA as you possibly could. The flip side is: Think about how much of the rich and phenomenal parts of your great grandmother’s culture she gave up and likely MISSED everyday after she left!! Not to mention her family. It’s heart wrenching to think it all came from trauma created by PRECISELY what the white South African is attempting to justify as “simple segregation…”. We have the benefit of seeing how, what he was referencing, actually having played itself out.

[@dwh58]

What a difference between these guys representing a continent and being individuals of 4 different countries in Africa; as opposed to the girls from last week from all over the world. The girls were far less aggressive debators and the guys more aggressive in making their point. Prejudice will always be a part of civilized and uncivilized society. The age old human trait of thinking your "better than " that person, his/ her lot in life is universal to everyone on this planet. Many historical discrimination stories seem horrible to us and yet the same thing is happening right today and no one cares because its not happening to yourself. Forty years from now the topic will still be debated, add it to death and taxes.

[@Dragoncam13]

And we men disagree and debate they use their pride,women against other women tend to be much less argumentative than men against men ideologically

[@ReshonBryant]

The Filipino boy was much more respectful than the South African when comparing the only standouts between the two panels. I like how egos were a bit composed with this panel being all male participants.

[@user-kv5gh6le6y]

It is always the way of it, people identify with a group and like to think they are part of the better group. Small towns even have that kind of separation of identity with virtually no difference in racial or ethnic makeup.

[@3dPrintingMillennial]

The SA kid is like the modern day Israeli

[@danschneider7531]

Yup. Except in some way, he was more honest about the evil of his country's deeds, and proud of it. Israel pretends it's NOT an arpartheid state committing genocide. S Africa was proud of their evil.

[@spaceman081447]

I think that it's very ironic that the black Africans were discussing the relative merits of Christianity versus Islam when both religions were instruments of colonization, by Europeans in West Africa and by Arabs in East Africa.

[@johnnyearp52]

Exactly, neither religion is African.

[@9529jake]

​@@johnnyearp52It's not european either 🤡 The western people used an europeanized version to place themselves above africans and keep them subservient. Ideologies has been used to control people throughout history not sure why you had to refer to it as not being of african orgin when it's from a country that is being bombed by the west and Israel today. The origin never matter since the ones in power (the west) used it to it's advantage despite it's origin on the middle east and went as so far to whitewash Jesus, and made him into a white man with blond and blue eyes 😂 Had jesus been alive today he would be another arab bombed in Palestine today.

[@1011rek]

But how can we say this when Christianity was in Africa before Europe? Such as Ethiopia which was never colonized.

[@spaceman081447]

FYI: The Gold Coast is now known as the Republic of Ghana.

[@kaiw368]

“It’s because you created this situation, why not just free mixture? You look down on Africans that’s the point, am I quite clear?” CLOCK IT!

[@bethel1242]

The young people in these debates are so bright. I saw similar debates/forum years ago. This one is fantastic. But sadly it would never be accepted in most schools. Least of which, Fla & Tx.

[@rebrccabryant6109]

We are all here for a short time . Live will run out , the next generation will continue the same. When will it end . I heard when all the old haters have finally dead and gone. Will not in my life time. I'll keep praying 🙏.

[@76Excel]

God bless the Ghanaian guy. The confidence! WOW!!!

[@karleycool1339]

It sounds to me like the europeans tried and are trying to do to africa what they did to the united states.. What I mean by that is abolish what was already there, in the name of progress or to their own gain.

[@AtmaureanNoble7]

Yes, the European Anglo-Saxons were not the founders of the United States nor did they ordain and establish any foundational documents. They were brought into government under a usfruct for commerce and trade and asserted power to eventually take over and reconstruct the actual annals of history within the Continental United States.

[@blackberry4life482]

The Ghanaian was very informed and informative.

[@circumventreality3770]

hey your work, your struggle with this subject is really cool and admirable. i haven't gotten on your patreon yet but maybe someday. i kept getting served your videos by the algorithm which is a wonderful surprise. took me this long to comment and subscribe. thank you for sharing your discoveries and your insights

[@nytn]

Thanks for that! Just having you with me on KZbin is awesome

[@PJ-my4mz]

It would be quite interesting to see what each of these students have done and if their thoughts have changed based on then and now.

[@Biobele]

I’m a Nigerian I read “sizwe bansi is dead” it was set in apartheid South Africa, the blacks NEEDED pass books to move around South Africa it was terrible. People got beating, jailed, killed. It was crazy.

[@Seadog-6411]

Oh i seen that play,in highschool,along with vivica fox

[@julieennis6929]

You hit it on the nose today. About being a mother. I am a mother with 2 kids. Dad is White. Our family is blended with family members from Europe Africa and Spanish countries. Our ancestry is mixed like yours. Within our circle our kids just see love. I was in a road rage incident where I was called a Black B and told to go back to Africa. My kids were with me. My son innocently said we aren’t from Africa. The first time I realized my kids world in our house is not the same outside of it. There are still ignorant racist people out here in the 2000. Yes you get sad because it seems some things have not changed. And for you you are taking in our struggles. i think the best thing that has happened to you is discovering your mixed heritage and your interest in what it is to be Black. It has made you more sympathetic to our struggle historically and today. OMG the hair thing. I applaud the young generation that decided to embrace natural hair and taught us older peeps to embrace also. I appreciate you so much for wanting to understand. Your kids will be fine. I can see you will make sure of that.

[@josephimperatrice5552]

The degree of how mixed is vastly different, since your children are half Black while Danielle Romero has an Octoroon grandmother so Danielle Romero literally is a case of one drop of Black ancestry while half of your children's ancestors come from Africa. Your children are way more like Barack Obama than Danielle Romero.

[@rroadmap]

​@@josephimperatrice5552 DNA doesn't work that way. A person gets 50% of their DNA from each parent, but not necessarily 25% from each grandparent. Technically, your parent could pass all DNA from one grandparent and none from the other. Of course that is an extreme case, but it is common that it is passed unequally. That's why one sibling from a mixed-race couple can look White while another sibling looks Black. I see Danielle looking Hispanic or Native American, but my husband saw her as a light-skinned Black. So don't assume! The original poster, who knows what her family looks like and what experiences they have had, is much more qualified than you to know.

[@76Excel]

I am Nigerian, and I am very proud of the Gold Coast (Ghanaian) speaker. A truly intelligent man!

[@clintongraves8806]

Great find! It’s the first time l knew about this debate.

[@lgibs666]

I am a black American born in the 1960s and I was invited by a black South African who studied for her MSW in the US to visit her at home. I have visited twice since they have visited me in NYC. My suggestion to you is to take a trip there and make sure you go to the Apartheid Museum in Johannesburg. I was so upset by the cruelty that I was in tears and had to leave the exhibition before finishing.

[@shannonvanpatten8341]

You're so right about people always looking for something to divide us. But,if you watch American Football racial lines melt away and it's about TEAM. I watched the Auburn v. Georgia game. Auburn fumbled the ball and lost any chance to win. The Camera panned the crowd and there were two girls from Auburn hugging each other, crying and consoling each other. Not unusual except one was white and one black. For them there was no racial element, it was about their TEAM. Maybe if we thought of our selves as a TEAM, things might get better

[@nytn]

I absolutely LOVE this. Yes exactly.

[@Kemet3.0]

I'm sorry guys, but none of us knew what was going on at the time. This is great to follow this path, but we have evil in the background that been working against African people from the beginning of times. Once, you discovered that your ancestors were first people on earth and some were Black Pharaoh King and Queens. The Eurocentrics knew about this and hid it for thousands of years. This is the education they didn't want you to know in school. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIrRhpSIgriAlZYsi=7HTlow0-NZtf_zmO

[@timeforchange3786]

They are trying to divide football as well by not standing for the flag and playing the "black anthem." Football used to be an all white sport but now most of the players are black.

[@rickyjames4228]

DIDNT ONE OF THE FOOTBALL TEAMS MANAGERS SAY ALL TYPES OF NEGATIVE THINGS TO HIS GIRLFRIEND ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE I THINK ITS THE COWBOYS. AND HE WAS IN A PICTURE WITH RACIST AMERICANS FROM 50'S???

[@shannonvanpatten8341]

@@rickyjames4228 Maybe they did ( I think you're talking about Marge Schott, she lost the team because of it) but that doesn't change the situation I was speaking of. And if I were you I really wouldn't be to proud of myself for digging up examples of racism and shouting breathlessly about it. Makes people wonder whose side are you on?

[@rawvibe8815]

Regarding hair, the white man did capitalize on the straightening of the black hair with their lye infused chemical straightens. The reliance on the approval and education of the western world seems to be a spell cast on the African nations. I stand corrected: I failed to mention Madam Walker’s contribution to the creation of the hair relaxer. My point was the capitalization of the corporation, benefiting from a product that harms the black community.

[@timeforchange3786]

So much money is still spent in the Black community on wigs. Even trying to wear long braids.

[@mitchyoung93]

I thought a famous rich black woman did that.

[@rawvibe8815]

This may be true, Madam Walker did invent a hair straighten product. But be assured the corporate world mass produced it and profited greatly. @@mitchyoung93

[@hadast3806]

Where did you get this info from. It was a black woman, Madam cJ walker RIP who created the hot comb. A black person also created hair relaxers using lye originally. Yes it was to fit in with dominant white society’s looks but black people have a variety of looks and hairstyles!

[@johnnyearp52]

Don't they use the same chemicals to perm white people's hair as to straighten black people's hair?

[@clementmckenzie7041]

The Ethiopian student's comment brings up an interesting historical point about colonialism and white supremacy. White archeologists and colonials decided that because Ethiopians, Somalis, and Eritreans had advanced civilizations, with advanced architecture and a written language, and were on par with Europeans and were an ancient civilization mentioned in the Bible and who had been Jewish and Christian since ancient times, long before Europeans adopted Christianity, they could not possibly be negros. So they decided that they were a race of dark-skinned whites / Hebrews, whom they dubbed Hashemites. They did the same in Rwanda where the colonials decided that the people of Rwanda were too cohesive as a culture so they created an artificial division. If you had ten cows you were Hutu if you had less than ten cows you were Tootsie. Years later this externally imposed separation would lead to genocide. South Africa was an Apartheid state where the white minority kept the black majority in a separate and oppressed state, the system was literally based on the American South system of segregation. The white colonials sent a delegation to the United States to study the American system of segregation and discern how they could improve it and implement it in South Africa

[@mzalchemy9236]

That explains why the South Afrikaan delegate said that he had seen no coverage of United States segregation reported in their media.

[@em-beem-be6708]

Some of that is true except in the case of Ethiopia because Ethiopia was never colonized by Europeans.

[@Dragoncam13]

They weren’t classified with Subsaharans cause genetically they were very much distinct from the subsaharans who were all lumped in together especially since quite a bit of Ethiopia has Semitic ancestry as well as most of them speaking Semitic languages. On average they are literally western Eurasian genetically and more closely related to various groups of Sudan,Egypt,and the Middle East than a random Nigerian or Congolese for example

[@brianvesta]

The East Africans like the Somalians..Eritreans.. Ethiopian and Northern Sudanese regard themselves as different race compared to West Africans.....This is something that Afro Americans never seem to understand....

[@heruy8274]

​@@brianvestaYep. European travelers even confirmed this sence of racial differentation Ethiopians harboured independent of European ideas of race.

[@cactusflower3247]

Poor South African guy. Although he lives among them, he thinks he knows them. What he doesn't understand that the African's have to work beside him peacefully to keep from getting punished. Just like the blacks in American South had to "keep their place" on threat of beatings and/or lynching. In any country if all the people don't have the same rights, then it is a segregated or Apartheid state. IT'S WRONG!

[@JohnnyLodge2]

You were moved by the progress, I was distraught by the regression. This video has 4 people prejudiced against one another but able to be polite, cede time to allow the other to makr their points. Nobody spoke over each other. There was no twitter speech or attempts at social media clout

[@johnnyearp52]

They did speak over eachother some. Not a lot

[@thezu9250]

You do realize that they cherry pick these children for their eloquence and their ability to debate each other politely, right? Why are you guys always idolizing the past?

[@tnfitzhugh4905]

I’d love to see where these men are now and how / if this experience impacted the trajectories of their lives.

[@hadast3806]

The colonization in the Gold Coast (Ghana) was not harsh, unlike in other African countries. British colonization lasted only 58 years from 1899-1957. As a Ghanaian I have to say that it was not the worst thing in the world and I agree with the Ghanaian fellow. Colonization did help Ghana in some ways and Ghanaians took over their own country utilizing some British ideas. Today Ghana is very progressive in terms of development compared to other African countries, they’ve maintained peace since the expulsion of the British, never have ethnic disputes despite having 70 different ethnic groups in the country, and always have peaceful political progress, low illiteracy rates and a well educated population. I know other African countries had horrific violent colonization from Europeans - I am speaking on Ghana only.

[@moremiaj4786]

lol..LOL.LOL.LOL. The british colonized Ghana for less than 60 years, but stole the people and sold them as slaves for almost 400 years.

[@edidiongokoro5212]

No colonization brought poverty to Africa our fathers lived longer and ate good food. We where better off that way

[@ScottyBennitone]

The white dude is right at 9:56 . When the dutch landed there it was desolate except for a nomadic group of people called the Khoisan. They worked together with the Dutch , sold them land, and left them to their own business. As the dutch , built, and grew SA's infrastructure economy and wealth , people from all over sub saharan africa , mainly bantus, migrated like ferocious locusts to get a part of something they had no part in building. I work with people from africa , they have no concept of nations.Its open borders everywhere. You are either from africa or not, doesnt matter the country, aside from maybe northern africa which is different.

[@gagoomt4076]

Desolate? Then where were all of the Zulus, Xhosa, Ndebele? Colonizers will always distort history to justify their land and resource theft.

[@johnnyearp52]

Yeah sure. You keep on saying this but that doesn't make it true. And even if it were true it doesn't excuse the horrible way they treated the black people.

[@lollolowski8956]

Dutch kept expanding north . Black ppl already lived there.

[@lollolowski8956]

@@Lovebomb-pu7ji how come zulu attack them? They did great trek through their territory

[@wambokodavid7109]

"africans got no concept of borders"lol what a 🤡....its u with no concept like that otherwise how did you end up in Africa much less scramble for it??🤨 Foh

[@ninaj.4885]

He said they were "trustees" of the african people as if they need supervision or need to be told what to do.....Sounds like what slave owners used to say about the slaves in the US.

[@Xelanderthomas]

It's interesting to think that these are high school-age kids. We in the States grow up with such skewed idea of Africa - here all these kids seem much smarter, more articulate than high schoolers in most of America

[@kaleahcollins4567]

I watched all of these but to me this one is the best and maybe i believe 1959 and 1960 . I wish they did this when i was in highschool i wouldve loved to have represented The African American community .

[@ReshonBryant]

I like the previous panel a little better. My man from the GC kept getting interrupted and remained focused tho.

[@werqzeleke2815]

This was a program run by US government as soft imperialism to the world and the white Americans also went to some African countries, we housed 2 of them in my home as a little girl

[@stephenjames2690]

The arguments of the South African youth are the same as those of segregationists. I.e., "the White Man's Burden." (Read Kipling's poem). Jared Taylor's argument is the same, isn't it? However, the other Africans on this panel illustrate their capabilities and capacity to adopt 'western' civilization. Afa South African Apartheid, anything about Nelson Mandela would suffice. Btw, I'm half way through, and I'm wondering if they'll discuss the intra-African prejudices and conflicts. When this film was made, there were no independent African nations. The Gold Coast became Ghana in the 60s. Nigeria was still ruled by the British, iinm. However, there were and are hostilities between the Northern Nigerians, who are predominantly Muslim, and Nigerians in the South. Of course, this is no different than what happens among Europeans, in Europe and Americans here. "Race" doesn't create it.

[@hwgray]

""Race" doesn't create it." Race creates _it_ in the United States.

[@werqzeleke2815]

Ethiopia was the only free nation on the continent.

[@biggaboydraws5483]

Interdependency is ridiculous! Africans have survived and thrived for thousands of years before white people ever set foot on that continent! Certain African tribes were at war with each other, but there was still overall structure and stability in the region! The region didn't become unstable until the Europeans brought colonialism!

[@nicolasjuandecardenas7921]

How mature these high schoolers look.

[@wisewiseworld480]

You are too young to have heard reports about Ethiopia's struggle with Italy. At one point the Italian dictatorship of Mussolini advanced to North Africa to seize Ethiopia. Ethiopia's king Hailee Sailasse constantly asked America for help at which they turned their backs on him. The Ethiopian people had to fight "El Deuche's" forces alone. In some divine way, Ethiopia won.

[@hadast3806]

@wisewiseworld480 - Orthodox Russia was a great help in providing weaponry to their fellow Orthodox brothers in Ethiopia during the first Battle of Adwa. Menelik has close ties with Russia and enlisted their help for arms. Ethiopians have always had a high population, so when they received the weaponry in 1895 they were well armed to take on Italy st the Battle of Adwa - the Italians were not anticipating such weaponry. To soothe their defeat, they they resorted to cheap tactics like mustard gas on civilians during the second invasion with Mussolini. If all of Africa had the military weaponry and training to use weapons same as Europeans many would not have not have been colonized. Ethiopia’s luck as Orthodox helped them to have friends in Eastern Europe who sent weaponry and trained them how to use it!

[@danschneider7531]

It was Il Duce, and they won because Mussolini was incompetent and diverted his forces elsewhere, mainly Greece. This split the forces, and led to their doom. The Nazis also bailed out the Italians on the Desert War.

[@werqzeleke2815]

Not in a devine way but by sacrifice of life for our freedom both men , women fought with everything they had for the second time ( read on Adwa) it's studied in US military school.

[@JashuaChristela-nc4hr]

Thank you for this.

[@queenluxurious6151]

Mixing is what helped us forget who we were and where we come from because we then had to drop our history and only learn their history😢

[@Fiveandime]

really appreciate you doing this. Thank you!

[@dreemwurks]

Are we going to ignore the fact that they called the Ethiopian a “Hebrew by Origin”?

[@greglink1463]

how do we help keep you on KZbin? Is there a way to voice support to Alphabet?

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Why are they trying to hide this this is why we must share it

[@LivingEmpoweredToday]

Because YT is a part of the system of oppression. Keeping sensitive wytes comfortable is their main goal. Our history isn't important to them because it shows the lies that have been perpetuated, and still are. As a Blck Woman reading some of these comments NOT from Black people, I can tell they are not aware of facts. They have been kept in the dark about true world and local American history. From thinking American football isn't racist, to not understanding that their traditional upbringing is steeped in whiteness as the basis of all societal norms. It's frustrating because in 2023 our education system is also burying the truth to keep the system intact.

[@auroraseyets8516]

Thinking of the continent of Africa as “black” is not the reverse of thinking of the US as “white”. The continent of Africa is the most ethnically diverse region in the world. The label “black” was given to them by the people who deigned to name themselves “white”. This land (US) was stolen from the original people in a similar way that South Africa was stolen from the originals. Even still the labels of “black” and “white” have been used since the age of European colonization and therefore, more accurately ,the reverse of thinking of Africa as “black” would be thinking of Europe as “white”.

[@Charles-tt3dr]

Being called "Black" back then was the equivalent of being called an n-word. It was a stigma.

[@blueswannine8749]

Danielle, I'm listening to them and thinking about Nelson Mandela, and Peter Gabriel performing Bilko in Johannesberg in front of President Mandela. I hope these young men all got to see these events. I'd love to know their reactions when apartheid was dismantled. Even when one thinks nothing ever changes, I believe it does, and sometimes for the good.

[@tnayenga77]

The 1950s was a unique time in African history on the diaspora as most countries obtained their independence from European colonizers in the 1960s, save Ghana in ‘57 as Ethiopia was never colonized. Interestingly the 1st leader of Ghana, Kwame Nkrume, experienced Jim Crow discrimination in the US studying for his law degree and wanted to unite African natural resources with inspiration of Ghandis peaceful rebellion in S Africa, too. He also travelled to Ethiopia to garner their support to meet Salasee. But these young men of color are not from S Africa and they probably did not travel outside their own countries and wouldn’t include these facts and I therefore think an indigenous S African who is a coloured or Indian would have brought much more substance to this dialogue as they would’ve been able to rebuke the white Boer man and expose his mistruths living under Apartheid. Christianity & Islam in sub Saharan Africa, nonetheless, is probably only 500 years or so (save Mali) but Ethiopia is well over 1500 years with Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

[@johnnyearp52]

The young man from the Gold Coast seems to know a lot about South African policy. That is not the same as being from there but I would be surprised if South Africa would have allowed black students to go abroad as exchange students.

[@13579hee]

I've actually watch this video and it's very interesting... Though, I make the argument that In many ways... The people from these respective countries still feel the exact same way about the issues discussed back then

[@Eddie-km4do]

I'm a member of the irish travelling community and I find it heartbreaking, you probably never heard of us but back here in ireland the vast majority of the settled irish will always hate us, it doesn't matter what new laws they bring out, it won't change the hatred in their hearts

[@gilbertlouis9441]

You are giving people the best education they need to understand racism, wow you the best !

[@LostNFoundASMR]

It was so funny cuz I was giggling and thinking I like the Ethiopian’s personality and then he said he is prejudice against Italians and I was like 👀 😅

[@nytn]

LOL

[@franchesca7523]

​@nytn Ethiopia was invaded by the Italians in an effort to colonize them just as the Britishs, french, and Belgium people colonized other parts of Africa. The Ethiopians went to war with the Italians & they defeated them. Lives were lost to keep them free. That is why he feels that way. That war was for him recent history.

[@taz09216]

Race is an American construct. The rest of the world do not identify as black, white etc They identify with their nationality or tribe. There is an assumption in America that race is an identity, its not. Terms like negro have no meaning outside of America. @@nytn

[@werqzeleke2815]

And yes we made history the only black nation on planet earth to have fought and won the war of colonial power, till date. And yes we are exceptional nation. Pick up a serious book it would do you good.

[@lovablelady-]

Natural result of two invasions by Italians. Ethiopia did not start it. Ethiopia had to finish it. Twice. Préjudice is a matter of self preservation.

[@stephanienwadieiiamhybasia]

Your natural hair is beautiful.

[@nytn]

It was so much harder to have but I might try again next year. My friends with straight hair never understood! When my hair is relaxed the time it takes to get ready was cut in half.

[@danschneider7531]

I thought it was Christie Love.

[@Thomas_Oklahoma]

All these Africans speaking about apartheid, I wonder if they really believed it would get better after a civil-rights movement a few decades later? I see a lot more inclusion and freedom for South African, Ethiopian Blacks (some even climbed the economic and representation latter), but the remaining issue today is the Eurocentric capitalist/corporatist economic system and the lingering affects of apartheid and colonialism that is still felt in these regions, poverty is still high for the most part!

[@13579hee]

Notice how the Black African said they were treated different from Black Americans

[@cathyjoseph44]

I'm from Haiti and a white lady probably in her late 70s, told me that I wasn't black. I was working at a store and tried to help her, but she refused at first, then she detected my accent and was suddenly nice to me after she told me I wasn't black. I thought she was losing her marbles. Until my white boss explained that she meant I'm not black American. I thought that was weird as a teen. (Being from a country where we have pride in our blackness and history.) Since then, I started noticing the difference in treatment with my encounter with the White Americans.

[@13579hee]

@@cathyjoseph44 yep. The harsh reality is that, in many ways, Blacks of immigrant descent in the United States of America are looked upon more favorably by the White population for one reason and one reason only...... White Americans were raised to despise Black Americans specifically and secretly they resent the fact that problems in the Black American community trace back to them. With Blacks of immigrant descent, they have not been socially conditioned to despise them and they do not see themselves as being responsible in any way for the standings of you all's community. When you all talk about issues in your community, they feel sympathy....when Black Americans talk about issues in our community, they get spiteful. This is something that Canadian Malcolm Gladwell talked about in a piece "Black Like Them" written for the New Yorker in 1996. He explores the idea that the white local population within any given country romanticize the immigrant black population as a means to both justify their resentment towards the local black population and to side step any blame they have for why the local black population is doing so poorly. He noticed the way that black Caribbean immigrant families in Canada (who in many ways make up the collective of long time Black Canadians) were looked at negatively by White Canadians who in turn romanticized the existence of Black American, yet, White Americans despise Black Americans and romanticized the existence of Caribbean immigrants.

[@gagoomt4076]

I’ve experienced this myself at work and in college. Whites especially are quick to flatter and compliment African immigrants as “different” than black Americans. I was told I was black, but not really. Go figure!

[@ReincarnatedStargazer]

​@cathyjoseph44 white people (Europeans) behave similarly to "black/africaness" everywhere. She said you weren't black bc she realized you weren't adjacent to complex black and white American dynamic, which probably makes her more comfortable. You pose zero threat to her as an "outsider". Same experience whe I'm in Europe as a Black American. I've seen a white people there berate an "African" people and hear my American accent and fawns over me. It's not a compliment.

[@nettricegaskins1871]

And the Ethiopian student's prejudice against Italians probably comes from Mussolini and the Second Italo-Ethiopian War.

[@werqzeleke2815]

Yes but since 1887 first attempted invasion and second time around was 1936

[@doylecole]

This may be purely historical to us today, but France is about to forced to renounce colonialism and pull their troops out of Africa. They are the last European country to maintain a colony and remove resources from the indigenous peoples.

[@gagoomt4076]

They will just turn it into neo colonialism. Secretly fund a terrorist group then claim they need to send their troops to maintain peace while hauling out resources.

[@johnnyearp52]

I should know this but which part of Africa is France still involved in?

[@arrow1414]

Sometimes I think the 1950s gets a bad rap for being reactionary. It is as if people think there was no social consciousness then, that it all suddenly sprung up in the middle in the 1960s. That film help prove otherwise.

[@19Pyrus70]

The guy from South Africa said his ancestors went to the south of Africa & there wasn't an African in sight! Lots of land, water, plants, animals, minerals & stuff, but no Africans!🤨🧐🤣

[@gagoomt4076]

They lie so much and believe it. It’s sad.

[@wambokodavid7109]

Whatever makes them sleep better at night.its like me saying we landed in the American mojave and did not see anyone in sight so it was ours😂

[@mzalchemy9236]

I saw a car parked in the driveway but nobody was in it….so is it mine?

[@ladykeeyah9945]

I'm not sure if you know this, but many Blacks who fought is these wars did not get to benefits from the GI bill because they were denied.

[@nytn]

YES, I covered this on a video but I want to do more on it. They usually did receive GI benefits but they were only allowed to be used at HBC usually, so very limited in scope and almost like not getting them at all compared to how others could use them. This was really wrong and I plan to bring more attention to this

[@shekool18]

Holy cow! How do you find these videos? Thank you!

[@duchesstyra]

These videos are all over KZbin there’s so many of them

[@gagoomt4076]

@@duchesstyrathese videos are popular amongst Africans from many countries there are lots of reaction videos by African KZbinrs.

[@MickiRonnae1]

I appreciate you sharing this. I see now why Ghana has been the main African country reaching out to black Americans.