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[@AfrikanHairGod]

LaToya Ebony vs Aishia: kzbin.infojbEo1hTIVEM?feature=share&t=1495 Cracking the Code on Curly Cut Damage video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn7GaKStfKl1mZY Other videos focused on Curly Cut Damage (Listed in chronological order): Are "Curly Cuts" REALLY Healthy for Hair Growth???: kzbin.infoYSHRH9mxrXA I've Seen How Damaging Curly Cuts Can Be: kzbin.infoiHS2v99-xVI Reacting to Black Girl Curls Addressing Recent Curly Cut Hair Damage Concerns: kzbin.infoiHS2v99-xVI Here's what I have learned about Curly Cuts: kzbin.infovNd7yQkGI9Y Curly Cuts are DESTROYING Your Natural Hair!!!😬: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3Xan4eufpp5ors Damaged Hair vs Healthy Hair: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3usZ55_iqZ5gJo

[@V2B2010]

Ugh I can’t believe now they’re going down the copyright route on your video 🙄

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@@V2B2010 no it wasn't them it was audio from another video we reviewed

[@V2B2010]

@@AfrikanHairGodok gotcha

[@basiqueopulence888]

Can you pin this?

[@missc2u1]

Went to the great clips in my area a little over a month ago to get my ends trimmed. Without even bringing it up, the stylist warned me about getting curly cuts. She said she has seen so many messed up heads of hair from it. I have been skeptical of this trend from the start. The worst part about all of this is that the two stylists are standing 10 toes down on their method. Nothing is perfect. Everything has flaws. In my opinion, people wouldn't be so upset if the cut was marketed as a shaping method only and not a corrective + styling/shaping method. Where I also get lost is how their no oils no raw butters went from a detox to regimen. I hope the learning lesson from this entire thing is to do what is best for you and not hop on any and every trend.

[@divatech185]

Great clips? Really. Have been avoiding them like the plague because I seriously thought they would only cater to Afrocentric hair. Maybe I will look them up again.

[@jayyy735]

I feel everything said except one thing is that for many of us the messaging we got was not that it was a trend. It was them selling themselves as THE method of maintaining natural hair and that everything we were doing was damaging our hair making it dry. This was the messaging I received from all of these curly cut stylists that I was following and I followed many just to make sure I was going to follow something that was being said by a lot of people and not just a few. And they all said that it wasn’t a trend, just hair care.

[@Amanda-vx1ut]

My understanding as an outsider looking in: Black Girl Curls (BGC) = the brand founded by Aishia and Aeleise Cut It Kinky (CIK) = BGC's method of cutting hair See Some Curls (SSC) = BGC's digital course with visual library and tutorials on how to care for kinky coily hair (the course they told you to sign up for, Narada) 30 Day Detox = a challenge which in some ways acts as a promotion for SSC (on some of their lives about the detox, I've heard the course being mentioned as a source of extra information). The challenge has a specific regimen and recommended products ( including shampoos, gels, mousses). One of the biggest features is not using products that have oils/butters within the first 5 ingredients. Related to this is not using raw oils/butters, which became commonly known as 'No Oils No Butters'. They believe oils/butters should only be part of formulated products and not in the first 5 ingredients of a product

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Great breakdown

[@chasebeautytoo51]

The only thing I would add is Cut it Kinky is the professional stylist program and it consists of an in-person visual and hands on training and an online component. It’s about 2.5K and then another 2.5K course to get a certification from them now. There were a ton of stylist that got a certification through the virtual only format 2020-2021 timeframe and they updated the requirements a bit on who they put on their Cut It kinky stylist list

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@chasebeautytoo51 $2500? No wonder they are maneuvering thru this the way that they are. That's a lot to be countable for each stylist that invests in that...

[@Amanda-vx1ut]

@@chasebeautytoo51 that's interesting to know. So it's approx 5k in total to become certified as a CIK stylist. Is the certification only from them, just for stylists to say 'I am certified by BGC as a CIK stylist'? If so, that is laughable. So in theory, I can make a program on how to shred paper and charge people to become a certified paper shredder as per my standards. Lmao

[@Amanda-vx1ut]

@@AfrikanHairGod facts, it sounds like they are trying to avoid a possible lawsuit. Hence the reason Aisha retracted the offer of a private Zoom consultation. In the future, it could be used as evidence that CIK causes hair damage

[@rosieamelia5955]

Keeping it 💯! I can’t say too much but what I can say is start being observant! It takes courage to speak on a subject like this, not all influencers will share they are having issues! They have created close relationships with these stylists and will never speak publicly! Instead fixing their hair privately 🙊they are having webbing, Velcro ends etc! With that being said, pay attention to your hair and how it behaves ! Not everyone story will have an ending like Shelly & I and the other individuals with this method! Regardless if there is one person having issue or 1000 no one experience should be dismissed, it should be looked into seeing what is causing it and changes should be made! Blocking us is very unprofessional! This whole ordeal has certainly opened my eyes about the love of money 💰! I spoke up because it would be disingenuous of me since I shared this method on my platform!

[@rosieamelia5955]

@@thenotespace4561 get a life already 🤣🤣🤣🤣, no one wants to visit their platform. The only benefit you will have is damaged hair. Bye Felicia

[@shelly.v.247]

@@thenotespace4561Wow‼️🙈 It’s so easy to be mean and say hurtful, hateful things when you’re hidden behind a keyboard. To tell someone they deserve to have something bad happen to them is beyond low. I would really hope that no one would ever say that to you. No matter what the situation!!!💯 And if BGC & CIK had addressed everything with any meaningful answers than AHG would not have had to speak up for those of us who now have very damaged hair. But I’m sure this message will fall upon deaf ears and you’ll shoot back with another mean girl response. However, I’ve come to learn that hurt people hurt people. Be well. ~Shelly

[@shelly.v.247]

@@thenotespace4561 To wish bad on someone and tell them they are deserving of something awful that has happened to them is just mean, nasty and vile‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ So I’m not going to go back and forth with you Sis because it’s a mute point and I’m honestly just speechless. So go ahead and type your rebuttal but there’s nothing left I have to say to a person like you……..😑

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Aww you are so mad yet so invested in what me and the rest of the ladies have to say. And you say you have been watching me for YEARS! Wow... thank you so much for supporting me and my content for so long. Why do you go take your crusade over to your cult leader and tell her to handle her business herself so you won't have to fight her battles for her. She hasn't said anything to either of us so i don't understand why you feel so inclined to. Oh and be sure to go get your hair blown out and assessed sis. Maybe you could get Aishia to do it for you?

[@shelly.v.247]

@@AfrikanHairGod Or maybe she is Aisha‼️ 👀🧐🙊🤣

[@michikonushen444]

Those who love lies get hurt by the truth. I admire and appreciate your candor ,because Afrikanhairgod didn't have to care neither give us professional advice and show us black women and men to love our natural hair and styles 💖✨

[@reginagordon4246]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💕💕💕

[@kalliel4841]

So true!!!

[@forebidden]

lmao all i've been hearing lately is them blocking anyone who has a following who speaks against them, im surprised they didn't get you first honestly so unprofessional

[@AfrikanHairGod]

im surprised i lasted this long

[@missmemssme]

Another factor BGC has not addressed is how quite a number of stylists were deemed "BGC Approved" after only participating in their old stylist platform, submitting a few pictures of their work, & getting listed on their website as "Approved". As a result, they never actually confirmed that their techniques were properly being learned & applied. As a result, many customers are going to novice stylists who may not have mastered their technique nor attended any intensive training on techniques BGC advertised as new & requiring experience to perfect. It is grossly dishonest/misleading & may have also contributed to the negative experiences. They need to take greater responsibility for their business practices, the treatment of their consumers, & the lack of long-term research behind their practices. Granted, they gave some good foundational information, but they aren't the end all be all. They need to circle back & learn from Deva. They had a similar downfall.

[@potterylady44]

I think you mean CIK approved. BGC is the customer side and CIK is the stylists side.

[@missmemssme]

@@potterylady44 I was actually quoting the owners, thus the quote marks. In earlier lives, that's how one of the owners referenced stylists that was later coined CIK. The point is they promoted people as having skill levels on their site that were not necessarily what they seemed.

[@missmemssme]

@@Mocha_Dimples Right! "Virtually trained only" should have been properly highlighted. When stylists are charging upwards of $200+, it should be clear especially when BGC's approach to any issues is to blame the client. I wonder if some of the lack of clean ends, styling, etc. issues are exacerbated by lack of proper training.

[@ArethaRenee]

I actually think some of the issues are with individual stylist who are not properly cutting. I know the stylist have to pay a fee to maintain being on the list. I don’t think they are required to take more courses.

[@ebonypainter9274]

That part!!! I believe that is true !! Some stylist not ready ready but charging charging coin !!

[@msdiva]

I never subscribed to BGC's paid platforms. However, I've watched many of their videos. And they are dismissive, condescending, & act as if they are beyond critique or reproach. The lady with the blonde hair is particularly rude & talks down to people. Marketing 101 says that is not good for their brand! But they are obstinate & refuse to pivot & change course. They are terrible! 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jessicavirgo9842]

Her blonde, color damaged curls take me out every time 🥲

[@myalli1]

@@jessicavirgo9842 YES ! Looking like the bottom of a broom stick !!!! Her hair looks so unhealthy…

[@tmcurly]

Don’t worry Narada they grift will be over in a year or two ! They will either be irrelevant or they will have to rebrand! Xx

[@MaSheri33]

The grift has been 5 years plus 😂 It won’t die it will just be replaced by a new cohort of “natural hair educators”. They started well trying to educate on the overuse of oils and butters to a cultish following. The message on washing hair more frequently was important, but in simplifying the message to no oils, butters plus some of the styling recommendations, they started to cause as much damage as the practices they shunned.

[@LoXena]

We can start a new bandwagon : "30 days river water challenge". We sell river water to define your curls, the bottle is 250 $ and you have to find a trained stylist to educate you in what type of river to choose and how to apply river water on your hair. Tap water is killing your hair and you should definitely use our program to have knee length 3c curls.

[@alisonhilaire4170]

Not river water!!!😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[@keidygarcia3222]

I've been using their methods/products for two years now (with the exception of the curly cut). My hair has never been stronger, longer, defined, moisturized, and healthy. To each their own...

[@adwoamk8918]

I hope they not only rebrand but do better, address the issues and thrive. I want good for every good black business!

[@Ossouko]

Sometimes you have to meet people where they’re at and let them figure it out by themselves. I think they thought they could use white stylists methods on black hair to make the hair experience simpler for everyone. But our hair is way too different (even amongst ourselves) for that to work. We always had to tweak things here and there. This is becoming the biggest scandal of the natural hair community and it doesn’t need to be. But if they like it I love it for them.

[@cheryll.g.6958]

I never did understand the leave in as a styler thing. Folk can style with a leave in, but a leave in is not a styler. Thank you for being so vocal about this and your commitment to trying to help so many ladies!

[@ossier2796]

Have you ever used Kinky Curly Knot Today leave in? That leave in gives my hair almost as much definition as a gel.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

That's to be expected A leave in conditioner or any conditioner is designed to coat and smooth the hair so it will reduce frizz and enhance curl definition.

[@cheryll.g.6958]

@@ossier2796 I have and it used to work very well for me. But once I started wearing my gray, I didn't care for how it made my hair look and feel. I actually like Soultanicals Frizz Whiz, TGIN, and Miche leave ins.

[@ibyou5062]

Hello how do you style your hair

[@cheryll.g.6958]

@@ibyou5062 I style in the shower while it's soaking wet. Apply light leave in and section it off. Then I apply the styler thoroughly, wet that section in the water stream, apply styler again and shingle each section. I sit under a dryer until it's about 75% dry, then air dry the rest. I wash my hair twice a week and my curls last several days, even with the leave in. I've gone as long as a week, and it's lasted then as well.

[@T-Laydie]

I think curly cuts are just a trend that will run its course. I'm in the UK and many salons/stylists are now developing 'their own version' of a curly cut. 🙄 I'm not interested. My hair is not topiary. I want my hair cut even. 🙄🙄

[@alexandriabrown1388]

Topiary! That’s the word.😂😂

[@msdiva]

Not a topiary. 😂😂😂

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Omg I didn't even know there was a word for it.

[@tamim6356]

Hilarious and very fitting.

[@MoniMeka]

It's not a trend. Not only black women get curly curls. White and Hispanic women get them too. BGC and CUTITKINKY, aren't the only ones doing this cut. The others were doing it before they came on the scene.

[@Me-fy8ue]

Narada we appreciate you and I have the utmost respect for you. You are an excellent natural hair care professional. Thank you for being so kind and caring with me during my consult. My hair looked and felt the best ever after you worked your magic. Love and peace to you!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Thank you for trusting me with your tresses 🙏

[@belindasanders1719]

Well put Narada. I miss your water jug days. I don't do curly cuts because I had one and still had issues with my ends. I don't know what my old ass was thinking. I went back to my old school blown out cuts. I did learn some things from BGC's. Those young ladies definitely missed a learning/teaching moment. Their attitudes got on my nerves. I have daughters their age. They absolutely don't act like that.

[@GinaJopay]

Sorry they did that I was hoping everybody was talking it through to help everyone I started following you a week ago because you're direct and because of the Hair grease old schooler here Thank you for the information 🙏🏻

[@Januarymay1127]

Thank you Narada. I clicked so fast to get your opinion and perspective on the “curly cut movement”. I made an informative and partly intuitive decision to come back home to the basics ( a few news thangs came with me). I genuinely thank you for love and passion you have for industry and us curlies/relaxed ladies.

[@rachelk4914]

I want to thank OG KZbin University for their advocating leave ins.

[@tmcurly]

Black girl curls is Cut it Kinky ( which is their cutting method). See some curls is their digital library. 30 day hair detox is a challenge at the start of your journey. Hope it makes sense😸..

[@tmcurly]

No butter and no oil was the premise of the 30day hair detox challenge. To challenge people to think differently about hair care.

[@Ossouko]

BGC is their brand for the general public. Cut it Kinky is their brand for the professional side of their business and also their cutting method.

[@denyshadials5702]

And to be fair, various KZbinrs coined and ran with ‘no oils/butters’ (along with the common misconception that they eliminate all oils and butters from a natural hair routine. BGC’s ideology is no raw oils/butters in addition to what’s already in formulated products and no oils/butters in the top 5 ingredients of a formulated product) BGC sticks to 30 Day Hair Detox. ‘Less oils less butters’ would be a more accurate description.

[@TH2023_3]

Let them bite the dust then baby bc you know what your talking abOUT I have not even been to school for hair yet and everything your saying is valid just from me learning from my own hair, things other professional stylist(my aunt) has taught me and doing others hair I'm self taught and it's valid it's valid ..liiike these stylist will ruin your hair to keep a buck coming. Please keep doing you with no worries ❤ much love

[@Laceycurls]

I have very curly hair I am with you on getting my hair trimmed while it is straight.

[@shelly.v.247]

It’s so ridiculous and unfortunate how they have decided to handle this or the lack there of! 😕 I followed their hair care methods faithfully plus got routine curly cuts. Now I feel my hair is damaged beyond comprehension!! Narada, I truly appreciate your love, support, advice and voice in this situation. ❤️‍🩹 BTW….You’d never really know just how severely damaged my hair is by looking at it curly. Blowing it out revealed a train wreck! My strands look like an expressway with a bunch of exits! It’s awful!!! 😑 🚨 PLEASE CONSIDER HAVING YOUR HAIR ASSESSED IF YOU’VE USED THEIR METHOD OR GOTTEN CURLY CUTS‼️‼️‼️🚨

[@divatech185]

I just watched a curly cut. It scared me. I am so glad I found you on KZbin. I went to a hairstylist in my city and my hair was so flipping damaged at the ends. My armpit length hair was cut to my shoulders. I was so upset. But better for it. The curly cut video was saying that blow out hair cut disconnects the curls. I don’t believe that. Mine is way better after a good cut. Keep doing what you doing Narada. I hope I spelled your name correctly. Much respect for you. You are so funny. It wasn’t hard to look up what is a curly cut. Glad I didn’t ask. I didn’t want to get yelled at 😂😂😂😂

[@kalliel4841]

Thank you for sacrificing your time to speak on something that doesn't directly affect you. I appreciate that!!! I know someone who is an owner of a restaurant. He stated something that was profound. He say, " It is cheaper for me to fix a food order and please the customer and keep the relationship than to go back and forth about food and lose the relationship." Word of mouth spreads like musty armpits Another situation that I have not heard anyone mention is the stylist who have paid money to learn under their tutorage. I'm sure they will suffer in some way from BGC not humbly addressing this matter. You are making upwards of $300.00 a head. To much is given, much is required.

[@cdnford]

I need to get my hair cut, but now know i will get a blow out and cut/trim. Thank you

[@sharoncherryontop1275]

people cannot handle the truth... smh keep doing you! :) love fm Austria

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Thank you, I will

[@TJ-kf6by]

I am still experiencing damage from a trained stylist of one of the brand founders. The method needs much improvement! Narada, you speak the truth!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Sorry to hear that. People who haven't gone thru this truly don't understand the devastation of experiencing these issues especially when they just walk away like they have no part in it.

[@DagonAum17]

Just go incognito lmao😂

[@amira_shmira]

I remember when I got blocked from BGLH for sticking up for the people being dragged for calling out colorism on their FB page. Some of these naturl spaces be toxic af! I'm here for you telling the people to do their own research. People are so damn lazy and want you to hand feed everything to them.

[@missmemssme]

Annnnnnd, BGC just posted that they are splitting up!! Wow!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Well.... Can't say I tried to tell y'all but everyone swears I'm just a jealous hater....

[@chasebeautytoo51]

They said it is an amicable split. I do love as a pro stylist that Aeleise will oversee the professional community.

[@missmemssme]

@@chasebeautytoo51 I thought the same until that IG live they just did. Total mean girls in that one. Also, Aeleise flat-out said all natural hair consumers are intolerable & said most stylists would much rather do "white straight" hair because those customers are easier to work with. Very off-putting!! That was the followed by shade at YT & IG personalities & more "everything's your (the consumers) fault", & they also denied that the stylists listed on their website were presented in such a way that the consumer would think or believe they were certified or BGC approved. I've always taken the good & the bad with them, but I was definitely taken back by their approach today.

[@rachelk4914]

@@missmemssmethey also seemed very manic

[@denyshadials5702]

Pause. It looks more like divide and conquer. One’s going to Europe to start a UK branch.

[@danafisher8613]

🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I mean I am so sorry you were blocked by these know it alls who are not speaking for all Black Girls and their Curls… I like simple stuff… cutting hair in it’s natural state and actually knowing what you’re doing if your are touting you’re a professional and know more. From what you have shown I have done better cutting my ends via twits, I am just saying. Hell these two are doing way too much and now it’s just follow what they say and anything else is wrong. I never trust that, or stylist that have this mindset. Let them be mad all of them the Black Girl Curls chicks, and those who won’t scroll or look up topics. Thank you for bothering to look for a cause not just the effect.

[@ossier2796]

I’ve had Devacuts and Cut it Kinky since 2018 and my stylist has been my stylist since 2018 and I’m happy. I also love Shelly and Rosie and I’ve followed them for a long time. I hope their issues are solved by the blowout cut.

[@EgyptBXO]

Wheeeew the tea is hawt hunty *nenes voice

[@AfrikanHairGod]

The tea is hot and BITTER 😭😂

[@Mimi-zd8ud]

Actually the commenter might have been talking about the leave-in conditioner that also doubles a styler(that’s what the bottle itself is labeled as, not sure if it’s true cause it’s my first leave-in conditioner outside of the ones used by stylists on me), it’s from Adwoa beauty.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

That's true. There are leave ins that can be used as stylers

[@danyale06]

@AfrikanHairGod BGC and SSC states that a leave-in is a non hold styler. They believe it serves no benefit when wearing hair in wash and goes for tight textured hair. It’s it better suited for wearing an undefined Afro because it provides no hold or for looser textures. When used under gels, it reduces the hold. So they suggested using botanic gels with film forming humectants in place of a leave-in which they referred to as a base gel. They made an exception to Kinky Curly Knot Today saying it was part of a system and was actually the styler. They also said leave-in could be used under foams styler for twist outs (but not wng), but I was still confused by the answer of why.

[@TracyD2]

They are trying to protect their bag.

[@Vibes.562]

Lmao I left a comment yesterday about Instagram hairstylists………… I was talking about them too 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dranchd6571]

When I searched "curly cuts" the images that came up were of non-black women, but the description states "this method is tailor made for afro-textured hair..." Maybe the cut works better for those who are less "afro" than others.

[@yourfavpersuasion9385]

a lot of us who are questioning the curly cuts are not from bgc. we have gotten curly cuts from other stylists.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

I haven't heard from too many of y'all. Have you had your ends assessed?

[@NeshaJay]

This just makes me think of the words, accountability and integrity!

[@Viasity]

Like the old saying goes. They blocked you because you ware the " WHISTLE BLOWER" and you were blowing up their spot, but hey you had to expose the truth. Other wise black women in the natural hair community would have kept on following another trend that would have continued to destroy the health of their hair, Love your content and your helpful tips on healthy hair growth.

[@psr076]

Wow they went there because you have a dissagreement.. This could have been a teaching moment because many of us are having issues. It's not fake. It's not like you insulted them. People have legitimate questions and concerns... For my part in my case a lack of using deep conditioning and use of a leave even in wash n go impacted my hair (for the past year I would only deep conditioning once a month and only using leave in with style other than wash n go). Rosie and Shelly confirmed my suspicions and so it helped confirmed certains thing and I had to put back steps that I wasn't doing... They missed an huge opportunity to correct and helped people who believe their teachings. I feel that the some followers are acting like brainwashed and can't accept that people are having issues... (like it was a cult or something )

[@tmcurly]

There has been many others posting videos also !!

[@denyshadials5702]

Their actions just don’t match (what appears to be) their motives. If I had to say what that was based on what I’ve seen from them, I’d say that motive is to: change the scope of natural hair and natural hair care through wash n gos. It makes no sense to try to change the world, without communicating and interacting with it. I mean my goodness, what about perfecting your process? If not the general public, then at least the stylists that spend hundreds on your classes. Cuz BCG didn’t cut Shelli’s hair, a stylist trained under them did. If her results (as well as others apparently) weren’t intended, then wouldn’t it make more sense to change the way you’re trying to cover these bases? 🤨 troubleshooting their training? Something besides come back behind the paywall again to fix a problem you never intended to buy? Cuz I’m not knocking a hustle. At the very least, ensure that people are getting what they pay for-that’s not unreasonable.

[@reginagordon4246]

💯💯💯💕💕💕💕💕 always💋💋 I don’t like their attitude. As adults we should be able to communicate without blocking someone that’s childish.

[@joneslr25]

I seriously would like to fly out so you can trim/cut my hair. I know it NEEDS it but I don't know how to really cut that much... I only know how to trim it.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

I’m surprised they haven’t blocked me yet 😂😂

[@ossier2796]

Narada do you know if curly cuts have a negative impact on type 1-3 hair types?

[@AfrikanHairGod]

I can't say for certain as no one with curly cuts with that hair type ever came to me to get their hair assessed

[@blabla22222]

Hi Rada, if I get my hair cut into a shape (ie heart-shape) is that considered a curly cut? I can't find a straight answer online.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

No you can get your hair shaped without it being a curly cut

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Some of all are really about to get blocked with these stupid ass comments... I don't mind disagreeing, being supportive of them, or having a different perspective but y'all acting like they should be completely absolved of any responsibility of accountability with the matter and how they left it is UNACCEPTABLE to me. If you are tired of talking about it then don't watch videos that are talking about it but y'all dismissing the problem is not working towards resolving it and I'm not going to continue to allow that here on my platform.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@@bobbyjefferson1973 thank you for saving me the trouble. Be blessed!

[@Cinnamoncupquake]

Curly cuts is to frame the hair and its natural state. Always trim you hair before you get a curly cut because they're not the same thing.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

The stylists that they are going to should be aware of that if that's the case. The fault still falls upon the stylist and not the client's

[@lunamufon]

Why would I trim my hair just to get a curly cut...? Isn't that cutting it 2x?

[@Coilylady]

@@lunamufon Yes it is cutting it twice for very different reasons once for healthy hair and once for style. the initial trim will remove the split ends so that the splits don’t continue up the hair shaft and cause further damage then you can go back and cut for shape with a curly cut BUT the very nature of cutting curl by curl just to get a desired shape Is part of the problem. Those different lengths wrap around and snag each other and cause havoc. And that’s not even addressing the dryness factor … I could be wrong but I think that’s a pretty accurate summary

[@celondelon351]

She told on herself

[@redboneb94]

Becoming very handsome sir 👀👀👀🙃🙃🙃😌😌😌😌

[@DeeDeeKarol]

Her and her partner Asia are parting ways, they announced it on IG

[@BeBlessed56]

Hey Professor. This isn’t a 101 class! This is a Capstone, advanced course. There’s a minimum knowledge requirement to enroll!! Why does this need to be explained again?! It messes with the flow of the course for your good students and wastes your valuable time! Office hours is one thing, but these queens have no business in Trigonometry if they’re still learning their multiplication tables.

[@rachelk4914]

The gaslighting from bgc and followers has been exhausting. I was subscribed to seesomecurls and leave ins were not the method I saw used for wash and gos. Seeing the condition of Shelly’s hair is shocking. I would be devastated had I followed black girl curls philosophies.

[@Shaniamonae]

I’m new to the discussion where can I catch up ? Is bgc a KZbin channel?

[@rachelk4914]

@@Shaniamonae Narada African Hair God has several videos and lives addressing the whole saga. I would look through that starting maybe from July

[@diamondsinclair8]

If BGC creating this damaging method then I AM NUBIAN needs to be called out too. cuz I'm not understanding it.

[@Destinyfirst]

This is crazy because after shelly and you announced that BGC and cut it kinky blocked you both, they have been posting stuff related to curly cuts and the questions surrounding curly cuts. Very strange behaviour from the both of them honestly

[@renettegordley3493]

Instead of some people listening and learning doing something the right way they get offended.

[@BlackVelvetBeauty]

I wish someone would check me and tell me what I’m doin wrong. People make it in this industry and forget they don’t know everything. It hurts it does but just humble yourself and at least listen to the feed back.

[@ossier2796]

I don’t blame the stylists for engaging non clients without actually seeing the hair and discussing products and techniques.

[@ArethaRenee]

I don’t either.

[@ossier2796]

I still get curly cuts and will do so unless I see damage and I’ll continue to use BGC methods. I only do WNG’s.

[@ossier2796]

Black Girl Curls never said that we could not use leave ins or deep conditioners. My stylist is Cut it Kinky trained, Deva cut and Rezo. People hear or don’t hear what they want.

[@ArethaRenee]

They said it’s not necessary to use a leave-in and deep conditioning should only be done in as-needed basis. It’s all a personal choice.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Did they explain when "as-needed basis" actually entails?

[@sm7640]

@@AfrikanHairGod they said mainly for color treated hair.

[@sherwood9917]

Part of the problem is that what BGC say during their live videos is often very different from what is written in their "manual", so the idea that folks 'hear what they want" is not entirely true.

[@SB-dx4wi]

So weird how people don’t understand nuance. No raw oils, butter, leave in conditioners, deep conditioners for maximum curl definition. Curl definition =\= hair health. CIK teaches curl by curl cutting. Do not get a curly cut with a stylist who does not cut curl by curl because your ends will be left straggly. Lesson here is the same with any touted “method” of managing natural hair online: eat the meat, spit out the bones. Kayla from What the Kink does a really good job of this. As someone you wants women to feel empowered wearing their natural hair, don’t you think we should be happy that BGC is showcasing that beauty? Inspiring so many to be true to themselves? You guys seem to have a common cause and instead of focusing on that you’d rather play in internet drama and tear their business down over a preference for leave in conditioner. It’s petty

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Such a shame that you spend all that time writing all of this and still missed the entire point of this whole ordeal. Keep feeling empowered 👍

[@AfrikanHairGod]

The nuance is acknowledging that BGC had expressed that their methodology and cutting technique addresses concerns about shape, definition and damage, specifically split ends. At this point using the argument that people misconstrued their method with usage of leave ins, DCs, oils/butters/etc (user error) is mediocre at best because it's not refuting the deeper issues including but not limited to: 1. For the method to express the use of leave ins and DC to be used as needed, was never emphasized enough because there are clearly so many people that shared their same impression that they could and should do without it. 2. Despite followers going to CIK stylists frequently/regularly, they have not only had their damage NOT addressed, but also reassured that their hair was in tip-top shape with no concern made to address the health and condition of their hair the way BGC had stated that it should. 3. For the ladies to get their hair cut so often and also so much of it to the point where their length retention is stagnated to some extent, while STILL amassing an *extreme & excessive* amount of splitting throughout the majority of length of their hair more than I've seen with people that use heat regularly, use hair color, relax, ect., is crucially concerning. Can split ends natural occur over time? Certainly, but not at such an extreme rate, in such a short amount of time. So what's really weird about you and your comment is that your want to talk about nuance but the only one here who seems to embodying a lack of it is... You. And that is to be expected, assuming that you aren't a natural hair cosmetologist that is expected to know all of the intricacies of hair and damage. Consequently, when you aren't as informed on a topic, instead of trying to attack motive and character, maybe you should spend more time listening so that you can have more meaningful valuable contributions to the conversation. 🤡

[@SB-dx4wi]

@@AfrikanHairGod I hear your points, and I think they are fair to make but you’ve made how many videos now criticizing them (and being prerogative and rude in some of them honestly)? You’ve commented on how many videos about this topic? At what point does the conversation change from productive to petty?

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@@SB-dx4wi again are you offering anything of value to the conversation? If not your opinion about my videos on them is irrelevant.

[@MamaEzi]

​@@SB-dx4wi‼️‼️‼️

[@ariamason9324]

We are our own worst enemy. It's hair, just hair. they aren't criminals. This is sad.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Who said they were criminals or bad people?

[@nethaniapierre8149]

Y'all need to stop saying it's just hair. It's obviously not just hair.

[@freespirit7450]

Forget her

[@denyshadials5702]

🙃 Narada you know these newbies would rather reinvent the wheel if it meant they didn’t have to research and get up to speed about all the different conversations in the realm of natural hair..

[@ossier2796]

Is there any scientific proof that any particular method of hair cutting is damaging to hair? What about Devacuts or Rezo cuts and I’m sure there are many different cuts.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Yes there are. They can damage the hair itself or cut into the cross-section at an angle which can cause splits to develop from there

[@ossier2796]

So they can cause damage but not necessarily. That’s with anything if the proper technique isn’t used.

[@ossier2796]

After awhile nothing on social media is a discussion. Let’s just say that there are many hair care methods that work for some and not others. People don’t have to watch what they’re not into in.

[@Vidgamechx]

No sound on the video❤

[@AfrikanHairGod]

its still processing it might not be finished

[@tmcurly]

I can hear mine !!!😻

[@Vidgamechx]

Ok I came too early!😂❤❤❤

[@AfrikanHairGod]

@@Vidgamechx that's how you know the support is real when you here before the video even dropped lol ❤️

[@Vidgamechx]

😂😂😂🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾❤️❤️❤️you know it!

[@ossier2796]

A curly cut is getting one’s hair cut in its curly state and there are many different methods.

[@MoniMeka]

They did what they felt was necessary. All of you can move on and focus on your lives and careers. Many blessings to all of you because I don't want to see any of you to loss.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

So they shouldn't be accountable for anything because they led people to the degradation of their hair? Let's exercise more emotional intelligence in instances like this instead of "of well, let's move on..."

[@menerverdolor8791]

exactly.... respect peoples boundaries... business or not, we can ALL choose who we want to allow in our space ! and entertain ....

[@kngdomkd5933]

You sound jealous…not concerned.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Pray tell, what am I jealous about? I would love to hear this one...if I'm jealous, you sound simple.