Reacting to Black Girl Curls Addressing Recent Curly Cut Hair Damage Concerns

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[@StarMarcie]

When she said “your comments are offensive to those that spend THOUSANDS…”. Ma’am. It’s offensive to me that I’ve spent thousands over the past 3-4 years and my hair health was compromised. I’m offended when I leave the salon looking busted and have to go home to restyle my hair. I don’t care about your precious stylists and their feelings. I’m offended when I’m told that I don’t know what I know and don’t see what I see with my own eyeballs. We aren’t idiots. 🙄

[@marleyhill34]

I opted out the game. I go to a white Aveda Salon with a creative director stylist who is Maori/Polynesian with curly hair. He's my stylist bae. I go to a black trichologist and her daughter for any scalp problems. and guess what 7 years and I still haven't paid thousands. I reject the narrative that black hair has to be one particular way and cost a ridiculous amount of money. It's a scam. Why am I paying 1000 to get my hair did and I'm not Beyonce on a stage? 😅🤣

[@crystahuggins]

Point

[@samanthajones3049]

Exactly

[@samanthajones3049]

@@marleyhill34 I actually started going to DryBar. For 50 bucks, my hair has never looked better.

[@Softdrama978]

Girl you better preach!

[@secretkeke8906]

She uses the same playbook that many scammers in our community use. They talk down to you in a condescending voice and make point after point about what's wrong with YOU.

[@tmcurly]

Narcissistic behaviour!!!

[@BeatbyMe114]

EXACTLY why I unfollowed

[@DeeDeeKarol]

Sis you nailed it and her followers are crazy as well. I’ve called her out many times. She’s definitely a narcissist scammer.

[@Neesha242]

⁠@@DeeDeeKarolRight she’s a big narcissist scammer!

[@DeeDeeKarol]

@@Neesha242 sis I checks her arse every chance I get. Her followers are insane as well. I’m balky she’s being exposed. Biggest fraud out here. 💯💯💯

[@roslynmiles5569]

Here for the playback. Playback gang in the house!!!

[@SSNUTHIN]

Playback gang gang ◀️

[@LaZainabou]

I'm a physician and make life and death decisions. One of the most important aspects of my profession is LISTENING and OBSERVING. Not everything works for everyone. Curly cut stylists need to see the writing on the wall.

[@marleyhill34]

"Not everything works for everyone." Like seriously...my stylist never does my hair like his other clients or even his hair ( He's Maori/Polynesian) This man will stretch my hair with his fingers before doing my trim in the technique of a straight cut and I love it! All the evenness! the thought I cutting curly by curly fills me with dread. As soon as my ends get too uneven I need to trim to stop the tangles so having such massive differences in curl lengths is not for me!!

[@hershekissed]

You must take private insurance only then, cause chile😂

[@laurelharper1109]

@@hershekissed Bearing in mind I may have missed something, was this intended to be funny?

[@hershekissed]

@@laurelharper1109 if you know, you know 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@JaushaWu]

“…your comments are offensive to the people who spends Thousands…” - her. All I heard was “y’all are Affecting my bottom line and that is the only thing that matters to me”. Got it sis.

[@tmcurly]

They are going to be out of business in 4-5 years. We will see them doing blow outs and silk presses then on no oil and butter hairs 😂.

[@tmcurly]

They will be promoting uncle funky for silk press or water spritzer for heat protection.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

@@tmcurlyhollering 😂😂

[@macara6561]

You are the only hairstylist I would trust to do my natural hair. I graduate from grad school next spring & my plan is to drive from Alabama to ATL just to come to your salon. Because in all these n**** a** cities, I can’t find anybody to do my hair🤣

[@AfrikanHairGod]

😂😂😂

[@tmcurly]

Lolol love it!! 🤣🤣 I get the joke !!

[@athena5505]

🙏🏿 you’re in Atlanta?! I go there often and will definitely book an appointment with you. I’ve been faithfully working with a Bgc stylist since July 2020 and I haven’t retained any length my hair doesn’t feel moisturized, and there’s zero versatility in styling beyond tapers.

[@denyshadials5702]

“It’s not the color” Said every colored natural since the dawn of KZbin before big chopping at some point.

[@uberhaute_naturalz84]

😂😂😂😂

[@SE-gs6gd]

One reason why bleach will never touch my hair

[@denyshadials5702]

@@SE-gs6gd Same, but I’m having a lot of fun with these hair paint waxes and gels 😉 which look even better on healthy hair 👀

[@SE-gs6gd]

@@denyshadials5702 yep. I've tried them. They are fun as long as they wash out lol

[@tmcurly]

Her blonde hair is fried and dusty looking. It looks like a bundle of hay 😂😂.. Dry hair. It only looks moist on day one.

[@sherwood9917]

They will never get a penny from me because I find them to be SOOO very rude and dismissive. However, I borrowed some of their techniques, using what is available on this platform for free, and my wash and go has never looked better.

[@iamthenicheee]

When I first started following the page, that woman immediately gave me off putting vibes. Like she was so condescending and arrogant when she would talk, but I thought it was just me. Glad to know the feelings are mutual. Cause she weird to me.

[@sherwood9917]

@@iamthenicheee The only time she is not rude is when people tell her how wonderful her advice is. Also, she seems to crave attention.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

@@sherwood9917right and when she is challenged she gets real nasty.

[@TWS1977]

I thought I was the only one who felt she was rude

[@samanthajones3049]

Yes!!! That is me. I was disgusted by her nasty attitude. I did the same

[@satzhair]

I’m a curly hair artist. I totally understand what you’re saying. I have taken cut it kinky amongst other curl cutting classes. At the end of the day what’s important is how my clients want to show up in the world. It’s a fine line and communicating is essential. I use every curl cutting class as just a tool in my tool box to get the best results for my clients. Shape and health. Your point about being able to communicate effectively with clients is so important. A lot of artist def need to take their pride out of it and listen to what their clients are saying.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

This! Thank you! 🙌🙏👍

[@ArethaRenee]

I think any good artist/stylist will take a variety of classes and figure out what works best on their clients. I’m glad my curl artist is training under others as well as them to be well rounded. Communication skills are very important.

[@fae3821]

BGC & their followers do too much gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss -ing for me😂 They're condescending and act like if you don't follow their exact routine then you don't know how to do your hair. I've come accross their instagram before and their followers were calling people stupid & comparing their hair to brillo pads if they used hair grease or oils.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

They are extremely condescending 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@jamiaylaphipps5689]

I’m so sick of people trying to sell us some bs, and sadly people without knowledge will ignore what goes against their very own observations. I am not grasping what she means by we are not comfortable seeing our hair as it is in the moment. I think we all have a grasp on shrinkage and why day 1 hair is different than day 7. That isn’t the problem. The problem lies in when you do their hair week one and then week two they do the same style and the shape is completely different. That is just reaffirming that curly cuts are inconsistent and can be a potential issue for many. As a natural who’s hair is prone to tight coils and shrinkage my hair could hide a cut like that well. But if an asymmetrical cut is what they wanted, or essentially a taper cut they would ask for that. What I’m getting from her response is curly cuts are not to address an issue, or prevent them either. They are for cosmetic purposes, you want a shape here I can give you that, but I didn’t address the concerns you had for your hair. That is why she says she has length and loses length as if she is not cutting her hair in the shape unless she is experiencing considerable breakage at a certain length.

[@crystahuggins]

Agreed

[@solarislawson4152]

I'm not a professional but I'm not listening to a stylist who's curls don't bounce back after she stretches them. Not only does her curls lack elasticity, but her hair is also thinning. No ma'am. I wish you were in my city because my daughter and I need trims and you're the only stylist i trust.

[@lovesara310]

I started getting holes in my hair especially in the front once I stop deep conditioning weekly becuz of BGC, 2 years now and my hair still dehydrated lacks shine and the holes are worst them gels and hooded dryer with no leave in set me all the way back smh. Going back to my weekly deep conditioning just like my Momma taught me and her hair to her back and she is 73.

[@Daydreamroses]

I swear this was a psyop to gaslight black women who’ve been natural for 10+ years who swore by oils and butters to make us lose all our length so we have to start over! I lost so much thickness and length I wish I could curse that girl who made that condescending Twitter thread out

[@ALove4Me]

“When people show you who they are, believe them” Motivations here are clear. Now beyond that/them, there are many stylists who do curly cuts, so I appreciate that you are trying to understand the who/what/how/why of this issue. Personally, I get my hair cut curly for shape and blown out for health. So, I guess I don’t experience damage cause I still get my hair cut/trimmed when straight. The two together seems to work best for my hair.

[@marleyhill34]

Fangirling at KZbin commenting on another KZbinr but also Stylist to stylist/ cosmetologist to cosmetologist!

[@kimberlygoode8881]

OMG! You are hilarious! I actually started getting curly cuts and noticed my hair wasn’t really retaining length in between my trims sooooo then I found a hair stylist that blows my hair out for my trims … my hair and curls are thriving now!

[@keesee4141]

Critical mass kills me 😂😂😂

[@V2B2010]

I really have to question what BGC’s motivations and goals are. Is this curly cut movement to help the natural hair community? Or is it just a way to position themselves as an authority on natural hair and gain fame and money from that? Seems like many in the community are trying to come up with their own trends and movements for their own personal gain. Everyone wants to come up with something catchy or ‘profound’ to woo us consumers/clients. From curly cuts to dry rot to kinky hair evolving to break. I don’t know. I’m starting to feel like a lot of this is just to take advantage of unknowingly consumers and make money off of us. Thank you for promoting more simplistic, minimalistic and practical hair care. ❤❤❤

[@Dunkina715]

I think it's a little bit of both. I think they genuinely want black women to get comfortable with their natural hair and get past the idea that wash day has to be this overly difficult, 8 hour long experience. They claim they want to simplify natural hair, which is great, but in trying to monetize that idea, they created a method that's somewhat inflexible and almost calls for a blind belief in BGC rather than the ability to question and think critically. I don't like their favorite brands of shampoo and conditioner. Rather than go ask them what to do, I just went back to the products I've trusted and liked for years. I still cleanse, condition, style which is the base of their method, but I deep condition sometimes and my stylist blows my hair out to trim it. I have a shape, but we don't trim for shape, we trim for health. A lot of the people who follow their method and spend a lot of time in their community forget that they can choose to keep what works for them and throw out the rest. Why? Because BGC somewhat discourages that bc it takes away from their bottom line. If they can get people to pay for their community to troubleshoot for months at a time, think of how much more money that is rather than having a free public forum. That said, I'm starting to see their method pop up on free message boards and forums like reddit where people are troubleshooting each other without the extra payment.

[@noebodywashere]

I did their subscription for two months and after they showed any tip or technique they would say “all hair is different” and “listen to your hair “ “one thing doesn't fit everybody “ or “doesn't work for everybody “ but ALSO everything we think about our hair is wrong 😢

[@BeatbyMe114]

LMFAO EXACTLY

[@rachelk4914]

They probably do that trying to evade responsibility for things going wrong like now, smh

[@IAmPlaysWithSquirrel]

But I thought they hated it when people would say “all hair is different”. I guess it’s only acceptable when they do it? 🤔

[@whosthatgirl9967]

When BCG’s method started trending heavily I always though to myself that yeah give it maybe 2 years and the real complaints would start coming pouring in after people saw it wasn’t compatible with length retention. Looks like I was right.

[@OuterWildsAstronomer]

Yeah I thought the same thing. Let me see how ppl grow their hair out using their methods.

[@LefenyoEveryday]

I think a lot of us were thinking this very thing, we kind of knew these days were coming 😢

[@divinemsm716]

The hubris of these women is both outlandish and off putting. I don’t do well with being talked down to even by “professionals.” Glad I opted out of the “no oils no butters” challenge. Arrogance is not the way to make friends and influence people.

[@gracepotts]

I can't help but notice that the folks harmed are people with 4c hair, which they claim does not exist

[@inspiringreadings6321]

oh n the only reason many of these new "nhair stylists" are so against oils n butters is bc they are obsessed with overmanipuating the hair into something its not for a stringy, hard wash n go. it has nothing to do with maintaining the health of nhair. its abt getting nhair to look a certain way n oils n butters generally dont give strong holds for a week. theyre not supposed to.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

Wish I’d found you before I decided to bet a curly cut last year, I paid $250 to have my hair ruined. I’ve finally got it back together, I now get my hair blow dried, flat ironed and cut now.

[@dunateo3506]

To me, the kinky cut reminds me of the way we wore our hair in the late 80's..the way Salt and Pepa wore their hair, except curly. I'm glad you are educating us about this topic.

[@rachelk4914]

Thank you for addressing this Narada!❤❤

[@jaeshasway]

Omg! I love the mess in your house analogy! 😂

[@KAM-rl6tz]

Narada, I so love watching and listening to you! Your humor is impeccable. 😂❤ SN: I love sesame seed sticks. 🥰

[@loveleiroots2264]

BGC: "...if we can just create that bottom part...if that bottom part can be nice, the outside can be nice...the middle is just like scribble to me, honestly. I always say the middle is scribble (anxious laughter)." 🧐 I ain't paying for no scribble scrabble if I want healthy hair. That's some elementary school arts and craft, 1 crayon in the crayon box type of nonsense.

[@msdiva]

This! And I'm definitely not paying $300+ for scribble scrabble.

[@loveleiroots2264]

@@msdiva her argument is serving undercooked chicken. Looks good and crispy on the outside and bloody in the middle. 🍗

[@msdiva]

​@@loveleiroots2264 😂😂😂

[@MeriamH.]

@@loveleiroots2264 😂😂😂

[@kianna2530]

😂😂 she doesn’t know what the fxck she’s talking about! Gaslighting herself 😂

[@Beautiful13075]

"Ooooh honey! Look at all them flicky-bits!" 😂

[@dorismarks7773]

That is why I choose to stay out of salons. Stylist just seem to do whatever most of the time.

[@NeshaJay]

Words to add to my natural hair vocabulary ✍️🏾 baby crown ✔️

[@NeshaJay]

Critical mass ✔️

[@tmcurly]

It’s stupid as hell. Inventing stupid terms in order to sound smarter than they really are 🙄..

[@tmcurly]

Narada was being sarcastic 🤪

[@GwenB]

You came on my feed and I liked that you used old school products and two strand twist. I love two strand twist and I use hair grease on my hair. I looked up your salon and found that you are nowhere near my area. I have not been in a hair salon in decades but I would go to yours, happily. I actually like what you do. Thank you for your work.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Thank you!

[@goddesstara4949]

She needs to straighten her hair on live so we can see those ends.

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

"We not gonna be here for an hour!" *glances at the timestamp* 👀😂 Real talk I'm so glad I found your channel today. I watched the video about your client that got a curly cut. I was looking into getting one soon for the shape, but I'm already recovering from split ends, single strand knots, and dryness (those are all my own damn fault lol) so I definitely will not be taking the risk with this curly cut. Also the scribble scrabble comment was so weird. Imagine paying top dollar for someone to ignore half the hair on your head lol

[@phyfoster-Auntie_]

Thank You! ❤❤❤

[@benerobbins]

This is such an interesting conversation. I saw the curly cut craze a few years ago, but never did it. I stick to my wash and gos and a press/trim to keep healthy ends.

[@MsAsheeraA]

I'm starting the challenge tomorrow.... just got back from a 7 day cruise and this was truly needed at the perfect timeforme...thank you

[@AfrikanHairGod]

The wash ya damn hair challenge?

[@lynnj85]

Narada did a live! Yay...I'm here for it!❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂

[@curlychronicles]

Ahhhh I agree with your points.. I had some of the same inquiries as you were mentioning them 😅 I was like what iz thizzzzzzz

[@chiomanjoku6783]

New fan here! Love your videos, You are hilarious! 😂 Thank you for helping me/us understand the hair nuances. You actually explain things to help us understand rather than talk in circles and blame us for baby crowns and mullets. 🙏🏾 So appreciated.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Thank you so much for watching and welcome to the Afro Tribe! We're happy to have you join us!

[@Long_May_They_Raine]

What is up with BGC constantly going into defense mode? She got that Phalanx formation DOWN. 💀

[@V2B2010]

Thank you for taking the time out to do this. Very educational even for us who don’t get curly cuts. Helps us to be more discerning as customers and be able to choose stylists and techniques with a certain level of skepticism. I hope more people who are considering curly cuts find this video and are able to make informed decisions

[@asthyselfie]

Stylist or not, as stated previously, hair stylists are not trained to do curly, kinky or tightly curled hair! With all due respect, if you don’t know what’s going on with your own hair, how are you going to tell anyone how to manage their hair! Narada and Henni are set apart as they have taken a seat to learn their natural hair (as well as their clients) and exposed their trial and error to become the elite talent they are today! Humble yourself, even if you are a stylist with decades of experience under your belt! There is always room for growth (pun intended!)

[@shawn6618]

Whew child, I'm almost caught up! This should be good!

[@msdiva]

Oh Narada...you had me laughing so hard throughout this entire video!🤣 I appreciate how you tried to make sense out of BGC terminology. But all their talk about baby crowns, holes, mullets, & critical mass was too dang much! And they didn't even address the issues that curlies like Shelly V expressed. BGC engages in quite a bit of deflection. It was too much. 😫

[@tmcurly]

She sounded like a Narcissist. That’s how they behave and actually believe their nonsense. Hopefully she is not a Narc because if so you will never change their mind.

[@ChesnaHoward]

U r so right!

[@daniellecb99]

Thank you for addressing this issue. I have not gotten a curly cut but had been following some of their suggested methods with good results. However, I do feel presently that I will not be implementing all of their recommendations. I am returning to leave in conditioners and more frequent DCs as some issues have come up with my hair. Thank you for being honest with us!!!!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Thank you for sharing your experience

[@larynadams1127]

16:14 thats crazy bc an oil probably would have been just the thing to help with the snagging caused by these curly cuts

[@quickpstuts412]

Narada: "We are not gonna be here for an hour!" Meanwhile....one hour later. 😂 Me: Oh really? 🤔 Ha ha ha! Love your streams, Narada.

[@jeanbastien9424]

All the stuff she’s preaching is yet another trend. Everyone wants natural women’s money and are willing to endorse anything to get it. My hair is healthier than hers and I do everything she says not to. That’s not to say there aren’t people that can benefit from from some of her techniques, but be VERY skeptical of people that prescribe the same routine for every head of hair. She’s not even genuinely addressing the actual criticism.

[@harmonious.balance]

I agree that BGC is not fully addressing the issue of split ends. Aishia seems to be dwelling on unevenness. I don’t think this is a trend per se as if it isn’t a valid strategy for hair care. I think their stylist training needs to be refined and they need to improve their PR. I’ve only been in the game for a couple of years and this seems to be their first major exposure of a flaw in their process. But I do believe this is a flaw that can be fixed if addressed appropriately.

[@quickpstuts412]

Well said!

[@marleyhill34]

Meanwhile I cut my hair into a mohawk and colored it so I could be cheap and lazy and stop obsessing about growth and damage. lol! What trendz. Lol! 5 weeks later I'm not even bald...lol! because some people would have me believe all my hair would fall out from the bleach.....no names....

[@kianna2530]

I ain’t taking no advice from a Brillo pad🥲 that hair is ready to set on fire

[@crystahuggins]

​@@harmonious.balance Agreed 100

[@user-gm4no2vs2g]

Not Hey Arnold on day two💀. Pretty much sums up my experience after trying the curly method 3 times with 3 different stylists.

[@kianna2530]

Hey Arnold sent me!!!😂

[@Gladiator_in_a_Suit]

That term “baby crown” is so funny to me!!!😂😂😂😂😂 I’m in tears!

[@iateyursandwiches]

31:03 I'm starting to agree with you about how much they love to generalize. For me, the sides of my hair are the longest and (shrinks less since it's the loosest texture) but there are definitely many other naturals who's fronts are the longest part of their hair or the nape...every head is not the same!

[@SE-gs6gd]

Everything you said is 100% common sense. You don’t need to be a stylist to see what she’s saying doesn’t add up. The goal of a curly cut is to shape the hair so it falls a certain way when it’s in its curly state. It’s not necessarily for maintaining hair health as far as proper trims and healthy ends. Now I personally have been to a stylist who only cut my hair curly, the difference was she understood what how to maintain the health of my hair. She was amazing. I’ve been locd for 15 years now but I remember my consultant telling me how healthy my hair was when I started my locs. Also the curly head in the photos has a lot of damage and most of it is likely from bleach.

[@tmcurly]

Bcg is saying to stop the blowouts and do their cut it kinky hair cuts exclusively every 3 months. That is why people hair health is suffering 🧐

[@forisadora7480]

You have always hit the nail on the head with their attitudes, it’s like they don’t have the right spirit for being a hairstylist. Maybe they are really writers at heart lol. Like you work with people hahahaha. Love you!

[@Tari.18]

😂they prolly as confused as we are

[@samanthajones3049]

This whole Campaign has collapsed. I am not suprised. Every time any one asked a reasonalbe question - these women told lies.

[@rachel6ix]

The curly cut grift is being exposed. 🥴

[@autsept7116]

Didn't she say she was not retaining length herself, and didn't know why?

[@AfrikanHairGod]

This is who folks are trusting with their hair issues... She literally just admitted that her curly cuts want serving her and she didn't know why

[@ttjj4511]

She is babbling her life away😂😂😂😂

[@moe3324]

I got a curly cut last summer from a stylist in the DMV. She used a rattail comb on my hair to define it and eco styler. Shape on point, health? Nah. I think as a person 20 yrs natural I can tell many of these stylist are not interested in maintaining natural hair but creating definition. I'm still searching for a good stylist, it is so hard but I'm about to bite the bullet and go to the most expensive stylist in my area just because they are the ONLY shop that post natural hair on all it's forms and options.

[@marleyhill34]

I literally do not care about definition. Because my hair will break in a hot minute if you don't do her right. I'm more concerned with keeping my hair on my head and I can cut my own hair too without damaging it as I did during the pandemic. In 2009 I asked myself why I was paying money to someone who could not improve the condition of my hair to my satisfaction and I still stick by that.

[@tmcurly]

My 4c hair curls easily even with shampoo but my signature look for daily wear is the Afro !! Yasss head turning and glorious 😍..

[@pmbrownslb]

I’m not a fan of black girl curls either. I have participated in see some curls and I just don’t agree with some of their philosophies. Basically all they are just doing is trying products and telling the consumers if they work well together. In the past I have done that myself. Also, all they recommend or have the most experience in are WNG’s. Not everyone wants to wear wng’s. I feel that if you are a true stylist you will or can do what your consumer is requesting. Secondly, a true curly cut stylist will tell you it’s not a perfect cut! What that tells me is that before we take anyone’s word for what grows out of our head, it is best to do the research of the service we are requesting. Basically curly cuts are not ideal. 😮. I came to this conclusion on my own just by doing research. This being said i quickly cancelled my subscription with black girl curls.

[@Keepkickingitnaturally]

I was just waiting for someone esp a stylist to call this method out. Because honestly using only gel, no leave in, can’t be good for your hair. My hair thrives the most with oils, butters and creams. Which is why I never followed them. I wear wash and go too. But sticking strictly to that is hard no for me. I found their page a year or two ago, and was turned off by her comment to others who didn’t agree with their hair philosophy. She definitely seems to be the more defensive and condescending one that’s always rude to people who comment on their page. I respect that you give her props as a stylist. But what aggravated me the most about them is their marketing of their techniques as the end all be all and isolate work that others have contributed in the natural hair community. They came in pretty much discrediting everyone/everything in the natural hair community. Unfortunately, that only sells for a while because I’m still trying to find clients of theirs with health hair and length retention. I’m all about simplified techniques but it does seem like their simplified techniques benefits them and their pockets most when you enter their salon. Ie -if your client uses oils and butters “wash their dam hair” pun intended, with a good clarifying shampoo. Ie -cut your clients hair using real skills not some search and destroy mission and charging them $200 upwards to cut random coils. If you look at their methodology it really seem like a hustle. Another note, it also seems like she really tries to gaslight people with nonsense. -like she didn’t know how humectants works, everything is user error, and their terminology cringe-yet they hate the term 4c … I digress so I can finishing watching this video

[@kanon1964]

Excellent video. Curly cuts aside, that stylist’s attitude and the issues you pointed out are precisely why I am reluctant to get my hair done professionally on a regular basis. I can’t take stylists who don’t listen to me or don’t know how to handle my hair.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

That's exactly why I use my platform to highlight these issues in our industry. I'm not okay with the level that these stylist are practicing and treating clients. Like they are doing y'all a favor by putting up with their bs. Humility and tact will carry you a long way and your business even farther.

[@kianna2530]

Girl I trim my own hair I won’t ever go to a “professional again” most my damage came from that! I used to straighten my hair every six months and go to a white salon cuz ain’t no way! I’ve cried twice🥲 a professional cut 4 inches!

[@QueenOfNice]

She’s on her Instagram story now saying folks need to take a class before making assumptions. Like someone else mentioned, when a bottom line is being affected, they will try anything. Now folks need to pay in order to see how damaging this technique is?

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Of course she is. She is just like all the other stylists that I've called out. They can never face the music or discredit anything that I say or present about them. As much as people try to say that I'm wrong or ill-informed, they can never validate their argument the way that I do. The fact that she had no rebuttal or even tried to address the issues says everything I already knew about them. This isn't about being right or wrong. I hope that people can look with a clear lens and see that this is an example of what's wrong with our industry. When you can't put your ego aside to cater to the issues and concerns of your customers, you contribute to the distrust and disconnect of the relationship that stylists have with their clients.

[@QueenOfNice]

@@AfrikanHairGod the way she rebuts is by blaming the client. Which tells me all I need to know. Keep doing what you’re doing! Love your videos.

[@DeeDeeKarol]

She has a cult following, they tried ti drag m when I called her out.

[@kalliel4841]

Not Hey Arnold!!! 🤣🤣🤣 You are so right. It's the prideful attitude. The smug disposition. I was a CIK model in March. The worst experience in my whole natural hair life. I can't hardly stomach this attitude on the social media but oh when I was at the Cut IT Kinky event Its despicable. My hair went through hell. Never again!!!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Really? That's terrible. They are truly knowledgeable and talented but there is much room to grow in their clientele decorum

[@kalliel4841]

@@AfrikanHairGod So true and I love supporting black folks. Your talent can get you in a room your attitude can't keep you. I sound like my momma. 🤣

[@Destinyfirst]

I don't agree with the way she and her business partner conduct their business and talk to ppl who are asking questions about the method. But ppl forget that this method is specifically for ppl who wear their hair natural and in wash and go's 100% of the time, i know she said 90 but i lean more towards 100. I switched over to their method 3 years ago and i havent looked back, curly cuts and all. I have been ebkoying the simplicity, the constant compliments, and the clean scalp. My hair is not colored, doesnt get straightened or stretched its just in its curly state 100 percent of the time and this method works. You can see the difference in behaviour from hydrated to non-hydrated hair its crazy!

[@AfrikanHairGod]

I've seen people that implement their method and it's not as good as people think it is... Their hair is either dry or damaged as a result

[@lillypieisme]

If you want your curls to have shape and volume, just get layers with long bangs (while your hair is blown out) and it will have shape and volume while curly as well as straightened and it will be EVEN and balanced.

[@ossier2796]

I get my hair cut wet and I never wear it straight at least for now. I only do wash and goes. I get my hair cut every 3mos and wash my hair twice a week, I workout 4days a week. My hair doesn’t get tangled very much and I’m happy with the shape.

[@ttpowell8111]

Me too! Been doing the curly cut for 2017. It’s been pretty easy!

[@jciv256]

I just got my hair cut set for the first. It seems to be doing well.

[@debbiehilton2614]

Been over a year for me and my hair is growing like a weed. No complaints. BCG has been a life saver for those who don't like wigs or straight hair.

[@tmcurly]

I rock an Afro daily blow out once or twice a year BUT I want healthy ends !

[@tmcurly]

***Have you seen your ends blown out?? It looks cute until your ends are truly visible. Beware ***

[@hilaryduff1495]

I literally the no oils/butters just gel and dried in a dryer for 2-3 weeks and my hair was DRY and itchy even though I was washing my hair 1-2/week -.- never again started using leave in conditioner again and a LITTLE bit of oil but still washing my hair consistently. I think my biggest issue was not washing my hair more often but my scalp is still suffering

[@GwenB]

Her hair is not helping her argument. It looks dry and damaged. Straw-like hair. Unconditioned and untreated.

[@mjsolomon]

I think they've come a long way. They are learning to not be so offputting. I'm going to recognize the growth in their presentation and attitude.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Now they just need to learn how to properly communicate with clients and consumers about their concerns and issues.

[@marleyhill34]

They still can't convince me to give up my leave-in conditioner daily as my trichologists suggested!!! lol! Just like my trichologists can't convince me never to silk press or colour my hair . lol! I'm stubborn and I know what I like and what I can handle...I cannot handle an uneven cut with no leave-in and only gel..My hair gets dried out from gel only and I don't want to manipulate my hair regularly for a wash-and-go. Plus I like to go swimming so why would I put all this gel in my hair every day only to wash it out..... My hair doesn't even need gel to look good.

[@tmcurly]

From this she sound like a dusty narcissist 😡. I hope this whole curly cut phase ends for good!

[@tmcurly]

@marleyhill this topic does not really apply to you. It’s more for people that have been getting curly cuts and re noticing issues 😉. Not your situation dear.

[@tmcurly]

I never jumped onto curly cuts because I have always wanted length retention but I no longer use raw oil and butter. I pick and choose what works for me.

[@letty4558]

That was the reason I went natural in the first place to get away from heat and chemicals.

[@sammy_longlegs]

Same!! My hair was so dry with the no oils and butters. My hair when it was at its best I used oils and butters. Tbh this method dried my hair out I feel like it was hydrated but not moisturized if that makes sense. My hair would curl but lacked luster and thinned out at end and stiff . My hair would just stick up. My hair never did that when using oils and butters. And I experienced more single strand knots and splits with the No oils and butters. I feel that this method with botanicals and no oils make the hair look stiff af and it’s not cute. I never struggled with definition when using oils and butters. As long as my hair was moisturized it curled. Now I don’t know what my hair is doing. And I think I’ve over clarified my hair. Cuz they stress making the hair super clean. But I think I over cleansed 😭😭. We don’t need all these expensive products y’all. Porosity is how long it takes for our hair to receive moisture. I noticed no difference in the rate of absorption when I clarified. Sorry this a lot but just had to rant.

[@jramsay576]

That’s what I’m talking about. They are so smug, especially her. We appreciate the knowledge what we don’t appreciate is the attitude. I lost all respect for them after what they did to Latoya

[@celeste37083]

Who is Latoya? What happened?

[@prettylady818]

We need you to come back in here and answer this question 👀😭Who’s Latoya and what did they do to her???

[@diannew3512]

I was going to a popular curly cut stylist in RDC area (Raleigh, Durham, and Cary). I realized after watching this video that she must have learned from BGC because everything said in this video matched her to the T!! From the curly cuts every few months, to the Uncle Funky's, to the no oils and butters, and condescending attitude. She even blamed me for my hair problems, even after I told her that I was only following the routine SHE gave me. On top of that, I came to be a "hair model" for her bootleg hair course she was creating and waited 5 hours, just to be given a wash n go instead of the style I asked for from the beginning. She even sent me to Target to go get batteries for her TV remote. I never went back to her again.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Oh my... I'm so sorry to hear about your experience

[@PearEnthusiast61]

Isn’t 25:05 evidence that this protocol might not be working even for her own hair? Interesting that she’s choosing not to share her personal setbacks that may contradict the message bgc preaches.

[@800mEric]

It’s about the money 💰 with her I think

[@LeyasLife]

ITS GIVIN EDWARD SCISSORHANDS , Maam

[@t.jackson1039]

The critical mass!!😂😂😂

[@rachelk4914]

Right now it seems like there are a small handful of stylists who are comfortable showing that they can trim on blowed out hair and still maintain cute curly shapes (Narada included) . I don’t understand why. Is it because they don’t want to learn? It seems like some of the curly cut stylists are maximizing $$ and said forget doing all this extra work (ie blow drying)

[@harmonious.balance]

This is a topic worth discussing, Right now it seems as if BGC is in defense mode, and understandably so. However, I don’t think their response has been productive. My experience thus far with curly cuts has been satisfactory. I also wear twist outs, so I think I notice my ends a bit more. I want to see everyone succeed and I think the conversation really needs to be had amongst stylists, to ensure that every curl is touched when performing curly cuts. I think it is very easy to just clean up a shape and not thoroughly examine all of the hair. I will also say that my first experience I knew my hair wasn’t in good shape for a whole host of reasons. I always kept up with my ends even as a straight natural but my hair was cut in short layers, which doesn’t translate well for a curly shape. I’m not so much stuck on length but at that moment given all of my hair concerns, androgenic alopecia, greying, hard water…if the stylist told me that a clean slate would be a pixie, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have let her do it, because I don’t think hair that short is flattering on me. So I think there are similar scenarios where clients might be overwhelmed when the stylists assess their hair and it turns out to be in poorer condition than expected. It can be a lot to take in in that first appointment. Having said all of that I don’t think this addresses split ends; it just explains unevenness and a lack of cohesion. Split ends are at heart of this issue.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

We've talked about the split ends on the last stream regarding this issue as well. We have really been trying to investigate why the ends have been getting tore like this... I really don't know because I'm not experienced with this approach of natural hair care... If I implemented their methods I think I could pinpoint it. I think that's what they need to do in order to ensure that this is a successful approach for all of their clients.

[@harmonious.balance]

Agreed. Though Aeleise did say that it’s important that every curl has to be touched with the shears. My guess is every stylist is not doing that. Of course I’m not a stylist, but I think it’s possible that unevenness + splits probably looks even worse than hair that’s fairly cohesive with splits. So the shock factor is greater when it’s blown out if it is both uneven and split.

[@plee6223]

I am so confused. This lady doesn’t understand what bleach does to hair? She also doesn’t seem to understand how hair grows, versus a haircut? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@secretkeke8906]

I really am not trying to be mean but it's hard for me to take them seriously when I HATE their hair!

[@saltwatertaffy7020]

It's not being mean. They, the stylist, need to understand that their hair is a walking billboard for their business to either attract or repell people.

[@MamaEzi]

I think BGC definitely has its place in the landscape of natural hair. I will be forever grateful to them for enabling me to wear my hair in wash n gos. I never thought I could do so. I have also had the same experience of being told that i have split ends going all the way up which was confusing to me. But it is not right to dismiss what they have contributed to the natural hair community.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

When did I do that? Did you completely skip my disclaimer in the beginning when I said I respect them as cosmetologists in this space. Don't misconstrue and put words in my mouth that I did not say.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Can I ask why it was so imperative for you to be able to style your hair in a wash n go? Did you not appreciate your hair styling prior to coaxing your hair into a looser definition?

[@MamaEzi]

@AfrikanHairGod it is imperative as I have CCCA. I have bald spots and wearing my hair in a wash and go allows me to cover those sensitive areas and in addition allows me to put medicated topical solutions. In other words it allows me to show up in the world as I want to and stem the hair loss as I wash my hair more often.

[@ebonypainter9274]

How MUCH time is it gonna take !!??? I’m still trying to find out !!!

[@NamaGVida]

I did See Some Curl’s Tactics for a year and finally walked away when I realized how much it damaged my hair. Curls would be popping from all the products but my curls became damaged. No more elasticity. 😒 My hair is hip length.

[@terryabro]

I knew curly cuts, no oil, no butters was not for me from jump street. I need health and length sorry

[@SuperHyperSpastic]

no oils and no butters is what leads to that healthy length retention

[@jjayjae_]

The problem isn’t no oils vs oils. It really doesn’t matter either way. Clean scalp that doesn’t have buildup + ends that aren’t split will lead to optimal growth and length retention regardless.

[@marleyhill34]

I don't have length due to stress, genetics and medication but I try to keep it on my head and as healthy as possible. I don't use raw oils and raw butter as I seem to be allergic to the compenents. I will use a silicone-based oil Like Olaplex on my ends only when I need a trim to help with detangling and in winter. My trichologists are ok with oils and butters in my leave in conditioner, deep conditioner and shampoos. I only put a water based scalp gel or scalp mist on my scalp. No scalp oils unfortunately.

[@jamariesgranny2084]

First of all, she is so mean and talking down about and to us all, and her hair was simply awful. It looks so dry, looks damaged like she is using box dye at home, no movement what so ever?? She's really the one who needs to get to the shop ASAP

[@Tari.18]

Honestly...what I get from all this is that the stylist sees more of the look of the style than the actual depth of the point of an individual wanting a curly cut. They aren't fixing it but shaping it only. So it's all about looks than health. They'll make you believe it's about health but it's barely all about the health.

[@just_antony238]

Look at all those flicky bits 😂

[@MsSong2U]

Replay ga-yaaaang!!!

[@cjjones9134]

The fact that everytime you paise the video, it settled on her giving yet another smug look at the camera like her name is Michael Scott

[@dluxunicorn]

I was literally so many different colors. Pink. Orange. Red. Blonde. Etc. and I have still been able to retain my length. I cut my split ends every time I seen them. I did loose much length from color until my instructor did a curly cut on my hair and my hair has been crazy uneven ever since. I have been slowly cutting it to be even because of how much shorter she cut my right side of my head.

[@latonya5487]

The “curly cut” is appropriate for type 3 hair. NOT type 4 such as myself!! This is my own opinion!

[@NamaGVida]

If you want LENGTH and don’t currently have it or you do have it and want to keep it, DO NOT follow See Some Curls/Black Girl Curls. My hair’s health is now compromised.

[@Theredheadguru]

I’m watching this and now I’m realizing they care more about how the hair looks not the health of the hair they preach about definition and hold not health

[@cook_with_me1907]

I dont understood nor do i like how every time their clients have problems with something or someone doing some technique they showed (yt lady cant think of her name) dont get it right, they go and shade the person and talk down about the person and their hair thats pisses me off they dont take accountability for anything and that in itself says a lot!!!!!! Smdh

[@WhatTheKink]

Maybe Latoya?

[@uberhaute_naturalz84]

​@@WhatTheKinkYes Latoya

[@daeyoung4513]

What are your thoughts for those of us who love shape but want to maintain the health of our hair- the idea of getting a healthy cut once a year or so and then finding following up with a curly cut maybe twice or so a year to maintain shape?! Idk I’m open to ideas. I love shape but what healthy hair and to grow my hair

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Get your cut blown out with precision and accuracy and fine tune the cut if needed in the wash n go. Honestly if your stylist understand hair cutting and natural hair, they should be able to create the shape you want with a straight cut.

[@Viasity]

She is focusing more on how the shape and style will please her clients. Instead of informing her clients on the importance of removing the bad ends from their hair to prevent their hair from becoming more damaged and fragile in the future. Even if the client doesn't want to get their hair cut short she still should inform them of the consequences of them choosing not to remove the bad ends. Also, if she wanted to create mass in the formation of the hair cut and prevent the baby crown could she have just informed her clients about cutting their hair into a nice TWA and eventually growing it out fuller as time goes on ? To much focus on APPEARANCE and style of the hair an not much focus on HEALTH of the hair.

[@AfrikanHairGod]

Agreed!

[@themotherlander]

heck no, she won’t tell them they could get all the damage at once, because that would hurt her bottom line