AFTER Rant Review

To celebrate 25k, you got to chose my next review, and of course you voted for After by Anna Todd. It sucked so much.
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[@deusexmachina9776]

Imagine being Harry Styles and reading such, knowing you were the inspiration for such garbage - he is the real victim here

[@hailey7368]

And the fact that he had to block the author on Twitter 🤦 she doesn't get it

[@saya1720_]

@@hailey7368 really? OMG 😅

[@hailey7368]

@@saya1720_ yup lol I don't know exactly the details but I heard she would always try to associate him with her story so he blocked her

[@hailey7368]

@@jenissemichelle478 that's what I've read 🤷

[@code_grammer7496]

Imagine being in this story, period.....How.....the blank.....did this get made?

[@MissKashira]

"50 Shades of Grey romanticizes a really unhealthy relationship." Anna Todd: Hold my beer.

[@raerivers]

After literally does not promote toxic relationships- it’s written from Tessa’s pov (the first one anyway,) and of course no ones going to sit there and think ‘oh my relationships bad, I should get out of it,’ and then stay in it, but even within Tessa’s ‘thoughts’ and ‘mindset,’ Anna puts so many almost ‘disclaimers’ in that say how bad Hardin treats her, how bad their relationship is, but that she finds herself unable to walk away, which yes, is NOT healthy, but is a very realistic situation that I myself have been in, it’s not glorified/romanticised at all 😕

[@MissKashira]

@@raerivers It's a romance, which means this is the ideal guy for her. The guy that treats her like garbage is her cosmic best fit as deemed by the author. That's romanticizing...

[@BenefitCounterbench]

Well, After was inspired by 50 Shades, which was originally a Twilight fanfic... S. Meyer has started all this garbage about unhealthy relationships.

[@oddeyes9413]

Dear, they go out for drinks and laugh at us for reading this shit.

[@starwarslegendscanon4001]

@@BenefitCounterbench Twilight featured a very healthy relationship.

[@ariwrites3014]

the saddest thing is: there are good things in wattpad and they get absolutely no attention compared to this piece of trash

[@emryslurker1557]

Say, seriously, where are these "good things"? I'm trying to search but the Wattpad algorithm is shite. Can list them? 'Coz google recommends shite. Excuse my French.

[@ariwrites3014]

@@emryslurker1557 I've mostly read good fanfiction, not a lot of books originally published in wattpad, yes the algorithm is shit I agree, but I dont know if you would be interested in fanfiction even if it is high quality

[@emryslurker1557]

@@ariwrites3014, I read fanfics and original works, be it published or not. These are my fanfic creds 🤣😅: ffnet, ao3, fictionpress and even forums like sufficientvelocity, alternatehistory and spacebattles (don't go there if you can't tolerate to be near very white men with the usual issues). I even read Chinese/Korean/Japanese translated novels (very niche). That is why I'm eyeing wattpad like it is a cobra. I tried to read before but got bitten with a millions-viewed toxic BS.

[@emryslurker1557]

@@ariwrites3014P.S. I like gay stories, too. I'm a certified fujoshi. Most of the time I dnt read straight romance novels because most of them are YA influenced these days. I only read them if it is a hard sci-fi, hard fantasy or real book thrillers. (If they are published. If they are not, chances are they are YA influenced.)

[@ariwrites3014]

@@emryslurker1557 In that case you should read Escapade, Young and Beautiful, Fading, those are all originally on ao3, but some people have taken them to wattpad, they're gay fanfics, they have simple concepts but I personally feel they're really well written and bring real life problems to light

[@i.147]

Im only 3 minutes in and i didn't know Todd was 22 at the time she wrote this...she was an ADULT who wrote a fiction depicting abusive sexual content involving a real-life 17 years old, for a public of young girls not knowing better. This is a whole new level of disgusting.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

I know. I was so upset when I found that out.

[@screenaholic]

Also Harry Styles gets crapped on by fans and others because of this book. It just feels so creepy seeing as she was 22 and married at the time.

[@DiamondSuxx]

Wait... There was a real life 17 year old involved with this? Am I missing something???

[@i.147]

@@DiamondSuxx After was first a fanfiction about the singer Harry Styles, and he was 17 at the time.

[@clarisa6511]

@@i.147 wait what omg I didnt know that wtf Todd

[@te-ter]

KZbin: Do you want to see another 'After' rant? Me: nO. KZbin: it's by Jordan Harvey. Me: ...tell me more about 'After'.

[@sercemwksiazkach]

relatable

[@dreamwishergirl]

I absolutely agree with everything 100% and I hate when people say “it’s just a book.” I disagree. Young people are reading books to relate to something and to escape sometimes and they are subconsciously taking in everything they read. I remember being a 12 year old reading Twilight for the first time haven’t never dating anyone in my life and I worshiped that relationship and when I was older, I didn’t make the best dating choices. It’s so important young people realize this stuff and avoid books like this, and for parents to as well before buying their kids books to read.

[@haggisa]

Lulu Love Exactly. I’d also mention, that when people sit down to read in order to unwind or escape their daily lives, their minds are more susceptible to absorbing the messages within the book they’re reading, since they’re already in a relaxed state and are likely not analyzing the text critically. That’s the reason corporations use product placement in films - so they will fly under the radar of the viewer’s conscious mind. Only harmful themes in fiction are easier to disguise, since the author can give countless reasons, for why the abuse the reader is seeing is not in fact abuse, but an expression of love. You can gaslight the person reading for chapters on end, which makes romanticisation of abuse downright sinister.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

Totally agree, and this is coming from a woman who married a narcissist. I thought it was normal for the yelling screaming and drama. It's call trauma bonding. And tightens the grip the pepertrator has on the target. Imagine having this type of drama for 10 yrs. Young girls don't knos better when they read books that tell them it's normal when the couple in the book goes from strangers to i love u in 3 weeks. Smh

[@noodlekatz4449]

Totally agreed, books are escapes they allow us to imagine things that will never happen to us but while still relating. We always subconsciously pick up on things presented in books and emulate it especially if it's in multiple books and is romanticized. Oh and society tells women they should aspire to be in relationships like this bull.

[@FeuerblutRM]

I agree. However, I am for absolute freedom of writing. I don't even think books featuring criminal topics (e. g. An underage incest love story, pedophilia romance or a seriel killer POV) should be prohibited or taboo in any way. Writing is art and art shalt know no taboos. Yet, I absolutely support there should always be a blacklist of books dedicated to adults only. And such books should not be legal to purchase or read by minors whatsoever. Meaning it's criminal if parents let their children read it, too. Adversiting such books is limited to borderline absence. But as a reasonable adult I want to be able to get my hands on such books if I desire. Legally.

[@jge8144]

I watched reviews on the movie Twilight and I'm appalled at Edward sneaking into Bella's room at night to watch her sleep. Does he do this in the book? Even in movies, kids' movies got some messed up stuff characters do in the name of love like Don Bluth's Thumbelina.

[@rand1735]

girlllll...your OUTFIT ! you're dressing the way tessa wishes she could dress at her 'classes' and 'internship'. ur killin it !

[@egirlwinter1664]

I was so upset when Tessa ditched Noah after SHE ASKED him to visit so she could deal with something that is not her responsibility. Like, dude didn't go to class or practice for her sake and she treated him like a pest. I don't even care about the character that much, but I felt so bad for him!

[@fabianap.-fabi.goodwell]

Why going out on new year's eve night when you can stay at home and watch Jordan destroying After?

[@JordanHarveybooks]

haha Happy New Years! Enjoy 😂😅

[@Rikrobat]

I cannot understand this trend of having the main character cheat on their partner and have it be instantly forgiven because "main couple armour" or some nonsense. Especially when the partner is a good person. Like, I can see arguments being made if the MC is trapped in an unhappy relationship (though that can only be stretched so far), but I think it's so gross when cheating is brought up but never discussed. It's really refreshing to listen to reviewers actually discuss this bullshit. I appreciate how you've taken the time and effort to frame how toxic and harmful stories like After are, and why the publishing industry needs to stop giving them a romance platform.

[@writer98989]

Funniest part of it, Tessa really had the guts to be mad at Hardin for lying and using her.. as if she's been any better than him. Ridiculous

[@thetiktokpenguin4343]

Girl, let me tell you. I’m studying to be a book editor, and in my Intro to Publishing class, my professor brought in a friend of Anna Todd’s who also writes on Watpad. She, backed up my professor, told us that fan fiction and romance like the stuff in After and Fifty Shades are popular because “it’s what women fantasize about”, so we need to start looking for more writers like that. Even if we may not think the relationships are healthy, it’s marketable and will attract a lot of buzz. I was sick to my stomach to hear someone say it’s better to give a toxic example of a relationship just to make more money

[@haggisa]

Anna Rae So many things about your story make me angry, but the worst one is someone defending books like these with the argument, that “this is what women fantasise about.” Because fuck no, they don’t. Women fantasise about men, who are confident, experienced and sexually savvy. Not men, who run background checks on potential sexual partners, stalk them and emotionally manipulate them into having every aspect of their life controlled by an abusive sociopath. Your professor is bad and they should feel bad.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

Nice to fantasize until you realize you have subconsciously adopt this standard and ended up in a relationship of such abuse, either you wake up or you lie to yourself that it's normal. Speaking from my own experience here, married a man who exhibits all signs of the "ideal" YA BF. Attentive, protective, obssesive, controlling. Only last year when I told him i am preparing to leave him (calmly) did he admits his wrongdoings. We decided to work on our marriage of 9yrs. And he has changed a bunch since last yr but we know it's an ongoing process.

[@steph2994]

Maybe if the media stopped marketing toxic relationships as fantasies. And something that should be strived for. They wouldn't be so marketable? Has anyone thought about that? Not getting mad at you, just in general.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

@@steph2994 It did not help that the media shows true love as turmultous, a persistent stalker guy turns out he is simply your soulmate otherwise why cant he give up on you? Smh. If a person stalks another person, the former has serious issues, and dont expects him to suddenly respect your privacy or treat you as a living being with your own emotions and reasonings, not when he becomes your bf, your husband or father of your child. Toxic relationships encourage you to remain in said relationship until it's too late (physical abuse, mental abuse). I will tell any girl who wish to "conquer" a "bad boy" to run fast and far. There is no scenario in which the girl emerges unscathed (note, i have had suicidal thoughts after years of gaslighting by my bf/husband). And you think i would recognize such signs easily because i had an abusive father growing up. And because my husband never lay a hand on me (unlike my physically abusive father), i drew the line there and kept explaining away signs of mental abuse.

[@syndeybinch]

It’s what young teenage girls fantasize about because you don’t knOW ANY BETTER IT SEEMS HOT WHEN YOURE YOUNG FOR SOME REASON BUT IT SETS GIRLS UP FOR TOXIC RELATIONSHIPS

[@hailey7368]

The truly sad part is I have witnessed younger girls defending Hardin in KZbin comments of other videos talking about this book (I don't know if they are younger but I'm assuming so). For example, somebody pointed out the fact that in one of the books Hardin recorded himself having sex with a girl w/o her consent and posted it online and practically ruined her life (before being with Tessa). A girl responded back to the comment and said "yes but Hardin felt terrible for what he did and the girl ends up being happy with another guy and having a child." Great job, Anna Todd. As long as the victim ends up having a child with someone else, your character shall be forgiven. Seriously, I didn't know how Hardin was going to get out of that one but you nailed it. Amazing.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

haileybrae95 That’s horrific.

[@raerivers]

No- you’re so wrong, I literally don’t even have words. Anna never ‘justifies’ Hardin’s actions because the person he hurt ended up engaged and with child, literally never. Even after Hardin found out that the woman was happy, he still felt horrific for the damage he’d caused- rightfully so- and believed himself to be a bad person undeserving of Tessa’s love. But no matter what disclaimers you give, people who aren’t biologically or mentally mature enough for things with still do it anyway, such as reading After, which is especially common because books don’t exactly have clear age guidelines the same way movies do. So of course someone will read After and make a silly excuse for Hardin/Hardin and Tessa’s relationship because they’re not at a level of maturity to fully understand what they’re reading, that’s no ones fault except their own and possibly their guardians.

[@hailey7368]

@@raerivers how can I be wrong when this is something I've witnessed? Just because Anna never justifies his behavior, doesn't mean she's not setting a shitty example regardless. She wrote these characters to end up together which they do. Has she ever acknowledged that it's a terrible relationship and they shouldn't be together? And this is only a story and that girls shouldn't think it's healthy? No. She hasn't. Therefore, it's a poor example of a romance. I do agree that parents or guardians should set a better example in helping their kids to understand but Anna is still at fault.

[@raerivers]

@Haileybrae95: What I was calling wrong was your second paragraph where you sarcastically congratulated Anna Todd on having Hardin be justified and forgiven purely because someone be hurt got a ‘happy ending.’ That is what I was calling wrong. And you’re wrong again, Anna indeed HAS acknowledged that their relationship is toxic and in real life it would have such a limited likelihood of working out, she’s even said on stories and live-streams that she hopes anyone who meets their ‘real life Hardin’ ‘runs the other way.’ So please don’t spread false information purely because you haven’t bothered to research the actual facts. All throughout the book and her social media- mostly Instagram stories over posts- she talks about how Hardin and Tessa’s relationship is not realistic and how she hopes fans don’t go looking for a similar relationship. So. And it really is NOT Anna’s fault, same as how you’re unable to blame a movie giving a child nightmares when said movie has an 18+ rating. I know books don’t have clear age ratings, but it’s a coming of age/young adult book, so no one who doesn’t withstand the mental capability to distinguish between healthy and toxic relationships shouldn’t even be picking up After.

[@hailey7368]

@@raerivers Oh geeze you're a fan of this book. I guess that was my first mistake 😂

[@TheQouz]

The fact that she wrote this at 22 is just sad. Jane Austen wrote Pride and Prejudice at 21, Just sayin 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@hll4393]

The worst part is that Anna Todd had the nerves, the audacity to make her characters reference p&p and other classic love stories which is an insult to the genre

[@user-hi4xi2rp8j]

Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein at 18...

[@jimenaroman1999]

That woman really thought she wrote something

[@starlightryder658]

Now THAT is an excellent point!

[@emryslurker1557]

Aaaaamen. Take Todd to a church, every church for every religion that does exorcism. She needs to guzzle and bathe holy water. *Shivers*

[@Joe-mz6ez]

Look, I once was in a therapy group for people on abusive relationships. Trust me when I tell you that the After series have a text book example of an abusive manipulate codependent relationship. REALLY! My fear is that Anna either grow up with a family like that or is in a relationship like that. Also, JUSTICE FOR NOAH!

[@emryslurker1557]

Bingo!!! I really suspect this book is her trying to validate her decision to stay in her then abusive relationship or past relationship. She was afterall married that time. Tess mother is Todd's mother who probably went: "B*tch, I ain't staying for this sh*t." (Read that like Cindy!)

[@dragonking184]

Can we just all take a collective moment to appreciate that amazing caligraphy in this video? 10/10

[@JordanHarveybooks]

My sister did it! She's so talented!!

[@yomommasofatthanoshadtosna3479]

Yes! Its beautiful ✨

[@andreadelikat2220]

When youve never watched or read after but suddenly knowing Jordans opinion is the most important thing in my life

[@yomommasofatthanoshadtosna3479]

Sounds like me

[@coltonmp91]

This review sucks lol

[@logandevereux5076]

This book is honestly disgusting and it deeply disturbs me! I watched a video of the movie premiere and there was a girl (probably about 12-14 years old) and she said that “I won’t settle for any guy unless he’s just like Hardin Scott.” That scared me. I dated a guy who was a Hardin and it was the most mentally and emotionally traumatic time of my life. It’s been two years and I’m still not over it, I can’t believe a little girl would think what Hardin does is love. That’s not love, that’s abuse!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Emma C. Hale I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s such an issue that this is what young women are being taught to romanticize and normalize.

[@aparnarajesh]

@@JordanHarveybooks I blame toxic romance books has bad influence on teens

[@annabanana7659]

Can we appreciate how gorgeous and eloquent Jordan is while tearing this book a new one? And the phrase 'Molly doesn't cheat to all the boys who loved her' is easily one of my favorite quotes of all time!

[@alexandriaceballos1938]

Not only dose this book romanticizes abuse, but cheating in general. That’s just cruel! I’m slowly starting to realize that I’m not like other girls is harmful, to the point where they pit girls against each other. I mean I like things targeted to guys, but I also treasure some of the girl movies I’ve grown up with as a child. Yeah, this book is an abomination!

[@donovannotmyname7306]

I could feel the venom in your words during that introduction

[@JordanHarveybooks]

There's a lot of venom the whole way through 😂😅

[@donovannotmyname7306]

@@JordanHarveybooks yup, watching that brought back some bad memories. And that was definitely worse than venom. Something much stronger

[@SunriseFireberry]

@@JordanHarveybooks Venom? R u in Slytherin? 'fess up now. :-)

[@oddeyes9413]

It stung nicely. Like drinking hot chocolate to fast but no regretting it.🙂

[@purelysmetalnightcore]

We REALLY need to start holding the female authors that make books romanticizing abuse accountable (be it the guy or girl doing it - looking at you, Anna & the French Kiss). You should absolutely write what you want, but you need to be conscious of the message you're giving if you're going to publish it. The lack of self-awareness from the authors in these types of stories is scary. At least make it abundantly clear that such behavior isn't okay.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Bored & Sleepy yes, but this happens with male authors to (though more commonly as a subplot). All authors should be held accountable for propelling damaging themes and ideas.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Soph xoxo the fact that she calls it out but then excuses it because he’s got and “damaged” is not good enough. She does romanticize him and that’s the issue.

[@purelysmetalnightcore]

@@raerivers Calling someone out on bad actions doesn't matter if you stay with him. That's excusing him.

[@raerivers]

But Anna Todd doesn’t excuse it because he’s ‘hot’ or ‘damaged,’ she makes it crystal clear consistently that his treatment is wrong and their relationship is undesirable through the effect that it has on Tessa. I agree that Hardin is romanticised, but how could he not be when the book is written through Tessa’s thoughts and views? Of course she excuses him, but through Tessa’s short and long term reactions to Hardin’s manipulation and emotional abuse quite clearly shows that his actions are incredibly wrong and their relationship is extremely unhealthy, if you’re the target audience for this book.

[@BenefitCounterbench]

Wanna know what annoys me the most? That they published this garbage instantly, meanwhile publishers refused Harry Potter 10 times because 'it wasn't suitable for kids'... What the hell.

[@xRaiofSunshine]

50 shades for kids! *makes the ugliest gagging noise that reverberates through space time*

[@oddeyes9413]

5,374 years later this book is included in 100 tales as a horror story.😶

[@victoriaslater6008]

@@raerivers Only because you understood that the relationship between them was toxic dosen't mean that the billions of kids who have access to this book do. They probably never got into a relationship with anyone but after reading this, they would want something like it cuz it's "totally fine" in the end. I'm not saying that your point of view on this book is wrong but you are a grown woman (I guess). You probably have had other relationships that you can compare your current relationship with. But the kids who are 14 or 15 don't. There are kids who've read this and probably don't know better. And just so you know, yes I did try to read this book but I gave up before I could finish it cuz it's that annoying.

[@victoriaslater6008]

@@raerivers That last comment of yours clearly shows that you love this book.

[@elias0282]

@@raerivers I don't really get most people. Why enclose yourself in such shallow ways? If you don't like it then you don't have to. You can find value and happiness without love at all. We already have so many humans on earth. Some countries are even overpopulated. But I guess if that relationship leads to the person murdering their other half, then atleast you helped lessen overpopulation. But still not enough.

[@inferiorinferno8859]

As someone who grew up poor, your points about Tessa taking objects/money for granted hits on the nose. Whenever I go shopping, I keep to a budget; even though I have some financial talent and as an adult I'm never broke. Whenever there's something like an unexpected bill that takes a bite out of my savings, I actually break down in tears. Tessa is by far not realistic.

[@SageMez]

as someone whose dealt with abuse, i want to burn this book.

[@futurestoryteller]

Can I ask you something? My ex got me into a college I couldn't afford, I had a job, and some prospects for loans and scholarships, but not many. When I told her that I was considering quiting, because I was having trouble making the grade, and I didn't have the money to tough it out, she asked me if there was anything I was spending money on besides what I'd already told her about. I explained that I was giving monthly payments to a children's charity, and she immediately told me to drop it, that my future was more important. I explained that I've lived with poverty my whole life, and that I couldn't let some kid, who was even worse off suddenly get cut off from a source of revenue because I had a selfish desire to accrue massive amounts of student loan debt on a longshot of a career. Not long after that she basically wouldn't speak to me anymore. Later we re-established contact, things were going well. I asked her if there might be a future for us, and she brought up my refusal to stop giving to charity to pay for school, I believe saying something along the lines that it proved I was a good person to her, and I said that I didn't know why she would bring that up, since shouldn't the opposite be true, that her demanding that I "drop the kid" would prove she's *not* a good person, and she responded "No it's okay though. You passed!" I just lost it, I asked if she was really saying she tested me, and how I could posibbly believe that, considering she basically stopped speaking to me when I refused to do things her way, and she got really upset and said she couldn't believe I was yelling at her over the phone. Was one of us being absuive here? It seemed wrong that I should accept such a manipulation, either of me or of the truth, but she made it seem like I betrayed her trust by making her feel bad about it.

[@futurestoryteller]

Sounds a lot like she can emotionally manipulate me, but I'm not allowed to be mad about it.

[@sima.m]

Steph Quirin awww I’m sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are okay.

[@fourcatsandagarden]

the worst of all tropes: the bloody sheets as proof of virginity instead of what it is actually proof of, that being a man that doesn't actually know how to properly have sex

[@neeko33harlow4]

The biggest thing that drives me crazy is how everyone makes Tessa sound like such a victim. Not only is she constantly judging other girls nonstop but she cheats on Noah w no regard for his feelings and somehow makes herself the victim in that situation but she is clearly emotionally unstable and puts that on Hardin even though shes aware of his selfishness and anger issues.

[@kaylag.5807]

I love your little rhyme in the beginning! Also, After is trash.

[@oddeyes9413]

Total dumpster fire

[@victoriaslater6008]

Totally agree

[@evies.1018]

It’s basically 50 Shades for teens and I hate that. This is NOT something we should be selling to teens, and I feel so bad for Harry Styles for having to deal with this.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Me too. The man did NOT ask for this.

[@evies.1018]

Jordan Harvey Did anyone ask for After? 😂 I wonder if this story impacted his reputation....

[@alexandriaceballos1938]

Jordan Harvey Not to mention the author has pretty much ruined his life with this garbage.

[@raerivers]

It’s literally nothing like 50 Shades, I’m extremely tired of people making that comparison. The only similarity between the two book series is sexually explicit scenes, which is very common amongst both Wattpad books and young adult/coming of age stories. 50 shades circulates around (badly depicted) bdsm; After includes no bdsm and has a completely different storyline so can we like- stop this? 🙄

[@evies.1018]

@@raerivers Really? Sweet, innocent virgin goes off to college in the Pacific Northwest and meets a bad boy with a tragic past involving his mother. She's instantly smitten, and he says he isn't interested in dating, just sex. She angsts over this, has a strained relationship with her mother, and has a male friend who constantly flirts with her. They get together for the first time after the MC is (nearly) sexually assaulted. At the end of the book, there's a cliffhanger with her leaving him, but we know they'll get together in the future. The love interest is abusive, there's tons of girl hate and internalized misogyny, and it's poorly written and started as fanfiction. Now tell me: 50 Shades or After?

[@bearhow4876]

You had me when the bad boys name is Harden.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Sounds like the nickname of a pornstar called Hardwood Johnson. Disclaimer: I just made this name up, don't sue me if you exist.

[@oddeyes9413]

@@Alias_Anybody I think it does... this is the porn industry. You know it does.😑

[@jge8144]

Oh, boy! I wonder where she came up with that one?

[@Marie45610]

I didn't know about this garbage book until I saw a preview for the movie, and heard a large chunk of the internet talk about it. This book could work as a cautionary tale if it wasn't being marketed as a romance, which is just gross.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

Agreed. I didnt read YA books growing up but i married a narcissist (think fifty shades without physical abuse) because i thought relationship requires yelling screaming to work it through (the dramas in all these YA books). Am working in my marriage of 9 yrs right now, i do not advise any girl to try and stay and "change" the man. I only stay because he has changed a lot since our very serious but calm talk about his behaviour and how it affected me (walking on eggshells everyday, yup). If he decides one day to stop trying in our marriage, i will take my leave, but it took 10 yrs with this man to reach this point all because he's the perfect YA bf.

[@Alias_Anybody]

I have to add something after sleeping a night over it: Why do these guys have to be violent and have anger issues on top of their other complexes? What happened to the "bad boys" who were just edgelords? I have even seen similar stories were the whole thing ended in the love interest planning to beat up the ex or platonic best friend of the girl-protagonist out of jealousy. Even if she stops him that's no romance any more, this guy needs preventive detention and a psychiatrist immediately. In other words: If the audience hopes someone will call the police on your love interest you may suck at writing romance.

[@raerivers]

Obviously it doesn’t make it okay, bit eventually Hardin takes up boxing and goes to therapy sessions in order to try and control/overcome his issues, but in Hardin’s case, it makes sense that he’s violent. The reason he’s so ‘messed up’ is because he was unable to save his mother from her rapists, so now that he’s bigger and stronger, he’s possessive because he views it as protective, and he goes after those who hurt Tessa in a similar notion. So, obviously, it’s not right, but it’s explainable

[@MajesticAngel13]

Edgelords who enjoy angsty music but are kind and gentle to all > bad boys who look hot but have anger issues and go for vulnerable good girls

[@jasminejohnson9999]

I read the entire series and this series is made up of centuries of abusive relationships, cheating, gaslighting, internalized misogyny, slut-shaming, the main female character is pick me girl, and the main male character is an abusive, manipulative pick me boy. And people, let alone young girls like this story. I'm so concerned yet horrified.

[@tessavery2151]

I'm so glad you reviewed this book. One of my friends read this book and thought that Harden and Tessa's relationship was the "ideal realtionship". I hadn't read the book, but based on all the book- tube reviews I thought it sounded really problematic. I'm so glad you talked about the fact that young girls might romanticize the awful relationship depicted in "After". Honestly it's awful how this book is published and how it is marketed to young teens.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

It's honestly disturbing. Miss you and your videos Tess

[@Alias_Anybody]

Ideal relationship? Not even a 10-year-old raised on a remote island should assume this, you should really have a talk with that friend.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

It is never ideal to cheat on your boyfriend, not to mention get back with said boyfriend and cheats on him again...what's ideal about this???

[@Tamaki742]

@@Peachu_n_Goma_Home I once had to confront this girl, who's obviously young, who said that "everyone cheats anyway" and that's not a big deal in regards to Ace Family drama. Maybe she just doesn't know any better considering the majority of their audience is indeed young, but it's just nuts to even read that. Even if EVERYONE does it, which is untrue, that's not okay nonetheless.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

@@Tamaki742 Cheating is like a crack in the mirror, you can mend it but it will always leave a mark. A mirror with too many cracks can shatter completely.

[@yana33612]

The sarcasm and thinly veiled disdain in this video is what keeps me going

[@JordanHarveybooks]

haha I'm glad. It's what kept me going as well 😂😅

[@dawnmayflower4422]

y b I don’t think the disdain was very thinly veiled 😂🤣😂🤣. ‘Twas fabulous

[@aj_814]

ok but you look so good in this video like every single look was on point every single fit slapped and your hair is adorable

[@JordanHarveybooks]

hahah thank you so much!

[@ZaraVelaris]

I read this book when I was 13 years old and I loved Hardin so much at the time I thought his dark side made him hotter, I didn't know that the romance was toxic , now looking back I am shocked at my stupidity but most of all angry because still many girls think that Hardin and Tessa 's relationship is not toxic but sexy and unique , No it a toxic and abusive relationship and I hate my younger self for thinking otherwise .

[@JordanHarveybooks]

I mean, don't hate your younger self - you didn't know better and a lot of young people don't. That's what makes the publishing of this book so disturbing.

[@Peachu_n_Goma_Home]

The thing with a man/woman dark side is, if the person ever tries manipulating others, he/she is doing it to you too. Do not ever think that you will be unaffected. A person going through traumas needs to sort out their problems within themselves (go to a therapist and work on their own problems), not coping it by finding a someone to share with.

[@fox7rain495]

Don't be so hard on yourself, we're all idiots when we're kids. The point is that you grew up to understand that these relationships are not healthy. That's half the battle won.

[@DorianCairne]

Geez, I wasn't even aware of the whole cheating aspect of the story. How does even the youngest reader see that as okay?

[@nycpizzarat]

THIS VIDEO STYLE IS SO DOPE! It's giving me major Lindsay Ellis vibes and I'm LIVING FOR IT!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Ahh thank you!!

[@NotaBizarreJoJo]

*I'm loving that aesthetic in the beginning, Jordan! You looked very nice!*

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Thank you!

[@sora1498]

tessa's character makes me feel so much more confident in myself, i may be annoying and dumb, but i am certainly NOT a tessa

[@HackerWarrior84]

I didn't know the author was 22 when she wrote this, and that makes it so much worse. I'm going to need a shower when this review is over, I just know it.

[@weirdfoureyes413]

"HaRdIn aNd TeSsA aRe SuCh CoUpLe gOaLs!!!" Yeah I just melt whenever my boyfriend makes me cry every hour and literally shows the bloody sheets to their friends proving that he took my virginity. SO ROMANTIC...

[@BigTylt]

Thinking that this book is "couple goals" is how you and/or your partner get your mugshots on the nightly news.

[@sharbear3866]

I used to think After was so cute! I was 12. I’m 19 now and YIKES

[@sora1498]

im glad to hear that you came around to realize its problems tho, and i hope the other fans do too!

[@sharbear3866]

han jisung enthusiast I had literally forgotten about it until it became a movie and then I thought back and realized how much of a complete shit show it was.

[@RosetheBookDragon]

Never read the book and I never plan on it. But from what I've seen from Kat from paperbackdreams as well as movie commentary/review from Dylan is in Trouble and Alex Meyers, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said in this video. It disturbs me that the author herself believes it to be romance and has no awareness of what's toxic to teens and young girls. Or anyone who's in a toxic relationship. Aside from that, I love how you edited and structured this video.

[@alishaghayas8232]

Ummm......the fact that all the youtubers u named are the ones i *passionately* follow☺

[@megakwelju1586]

Sadly this is what's wrong with the publishing industry nowadays. It doesn't matter how disturbing, damaging, disgusting the story is, as long as they're bringing money...

[@andretthew]

I clicked so quickly I cracked my phonescreen

[@JordanHarveybooks]

hahah omg 😂😂

[@elias0282]

Take this story and turn it into a horror/psychological novel. Imagine having an innocent women meeting the cliche bad boy and goes into this mess of a relationship. Then she founds out their relationship is clearly nothing good. And she tries to escape but the bad boy will stop her from doing so. He will manipulate her from every single thing she do. She becomes crazy/hysterical/more and more of a dumbass. She feels on constant dread, because she knows that he is there stalking/watching/monitoring her every movement. Then the story goes on blah blah blah... She tries to escape for the nth times and at the end, she finally succeeded. Only to/for: A.) The bad boy manages to capture her back. B.) She escaped. But her sanity is low. So she was sent to a mental hospital. C.) She killed him. She went to prison. Still crazy, and having delusions. D.) She died while escaping. And he was sent to prison. And became even more crazy. E.) They both died because of an accident. F.) She woke up because it was all a dream. G.) He woke up because it was all a dream. While at a mental hospital.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

Part of the problem with this book is that it encourages a much bigger problem: the romanticism of abusive relationships. Abusers will often use language like “*only you* understand me”, “I *need* you”, “we/you are special”, as a way to make the victim feel important. They’ll frame their abuse as reactions to how much they love you, for example “I can’t help but be jealous, I just love you so much”. And when other people speak against the relationship the abuser will turn it against them, and make it seem like it’s just you two against the world, so you feel like you’re in this together and no one else understands. This book is literally a guide to abusing and controlling a SO!!!

[@ahnifollett]

Why is is such a trend for smutty fiction for the guy to complain about condoms? Buddy, you're not losing anything by wearing a condom and it's actually endearing and really sexy for you to put one on because it shows you care about your partner's safety and preferences.

[@StacysMomm]

That's why as a writer I will never do this I don't care if it sells I wouldn't want teens falling for such toxicity.

[@TheBookLeo]

I'm loving the calligraphy-writing, blazer-wearing vibe

[@JordanHarveybooks]

The Book Leo Haha thanks! My sister did the calligraphy though 😅

[@lanatherana157]

The fact that this video had to be made in parts over what I assume was a number days speaks volumes to the emotional exhaustion and frustration reading this book induces.

[@barbarasantos1206]

24:15 Hardin has a temper that legit scares me back when I was younger -around 15- I read the whole series and there is a moment on book 3 I think where Hardin and Tessa had broken up and she was giving zed a chance and Hardin breks zed's nose and send him to the hospital completly injured and it was something that made me so scared I really don't know how Tessa could be with someone like that 28:06 when reading the other books you actually start to see molly in more kind eyes and yes she was mean to Tessa but when they frist met Tessa is Just so judmental of molly -she wouldn't let molly be Nice to her even if she tried- and being someone that resembles molly (pink hair, dark clothes and tantos) it hurts me what this book made girls think about people with alternativ style.

[@juliakahrs3722]

* talking about Steph * "She's not the worst by any stretch" *cut to later in the series when steph literally plays a part in almost sexually assaulting Tessa*

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Oh good god this series needs to be burned and forgotten

[@allieverdoorn1955]

You read 600 pages of that?? Dang, you deserve a medal or something girl. AND I ALMOST DIDNT FINISH THE VIDEO BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE END AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE MONEY?! YOU'RE MY HERO!

[@abeth-zuppa]

I read After in 2019 and have 37 pages of notes that have not manifested as a full, coherent review yet. There's so much wrong with this book and nothing right. My biggest issue is with authors like Anna Todd, Colleen Hoover, etc., who are often married, have kids, and/or have a background in something that would identify the red flags of an abusive relationship (Colleen Hoover, for example, was a licensed social worker). They may recognize that these relationships are toxic and dangerous, or that there is some sort of a sexual fantasy component to it (i.e., the bad boy). However, they do a poor job at this by marketing their work towards the preteen/YA audience where they are still learning about the world and making sense of the connection between thoughts, feelings, and actions, especially when it comes to romantic relationships. Sadly, publishing companies that prey on naive girls and their vulnerability make these forms of media more profitable and readily available. As a young 20-something year old woman, reviews like yours point out how wrong this material is and how we really need to change the conversation about how young people view romance and sexuality.

[@jamesy8217]

Good Luck with making your review of this god awful book

[@futurestoryteller]

Can I just say: Reading through the comments, not just on here but on videos with similar subject matter; I've seen people who have confided their past abuse, and people who admit to romanticizing the toxic relations therein in their youth, but I have yet to see _overlap_ between the two. So simply in the spirit of nuanced and critical thinking, are we, perhaps, not giving young people enough credit here? Is this like expecting kids to jump off rooftops because they like Superman? - I mean at least Superman is a hero, but still...

[@officialname9817]

Read this book when I was 13 with all my friends I thought the toxicity was obvious and we all collectively hated all the characters cuz of how abusive they are lol

[@sanahaquil1251]

THANK GOD! I started reading this book because a friend of mine was fangirling over it and wanted me to read it too after it was announced that it was going to be turned into a movie. And I begrudgingly agreed. I started reading it and I was immediately disturbed. Tessa starts out as a good, innocent girl. Her life wasn't fulfilling, ok, I get it. But she went against EVERYTHING she was when she saw Hardin. The first thing that happens is actually cheating and she doesn't even feel bad for it. Nor does Noah blame her as much as he should. What does this convey? It's fine to cheat if it means getting someone you want. IT'S NOT. And every single event that happens after that is just not ok. It's toxic and it's a relationship that shouldn't be rooted for. It doesn't teach anything good. It even falsely portrays that being a good girl is bad! I wanted to give up on the book so many times. It didn't really interest me much, but I kept reading until the end of the first book because my friend loved it so much and wanted me to read along with her. I gave up on the second book, though. It was bad for my emotional sanity. The writing is engaging but the content is emotionally and morally disturbing.... I can't understand how she, or anyone for that matter, can like it so much and fangirl over it when it's so.... toxic... I thought I was the only one thinking this, so thank you so much for your honest review. People really shouldn't read this, unless they want to get brainwashed into thinking toxic relationships are romantic. My heart aches at the thought that young girls read this and internalized Tessa and Hardin's relationship as good romance :(

[@mariamsaleh8968]

There's a part on one of the sequels i think the second one (wattpad version) where she got her period and Hardin made fun of her for it. So even with this thing Anna Todd managed to make this series so poisoning.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Mary S wow.

[@emmyrose77]

when you said anna todd was in her 20's when she wrote this i didn't know whether to laugh or cry or scream or all three. therapy is great hun; you should go there not wattpad.

[@tweedlebug123]

i've researched After by Anna Todd a lot, so i know this book is garbage- but it legitimately hurt when Tessa says "no not everyone's crazy because they like things a certain way" in response to being asked if she suffers from OCD. as Someone who has OCD and multiple other neurological disorders, that really hurt and i was just reminded when I was first diagnosed with OCD and my first thought was "no i can't be OCD! I'm NOT crazy!" and this was before this book was ever published. it continues to stigmatize OCD and other non-violent (but difficult to deal with) disorders the way society always has and continues to do. That truly upset me.

[@lomietoon]

I know a grade 8 student who absolutely loves this book and I’m genuinely scared for her. She keeps on talking about how she loves their relationship and I’m just like icjdidjjcox

[@corinebellasearoses3371]

I voted for Raven Boys, but I’ll stay for After because I love hearing what Jordan has to say! I know this was painful for you, but I enjoyed hearing what you had to say so thank you for sacrificing your time for us! Also, what you said about not buying the book is very important! People should not buy the book just to read it so they can hate it to (if that makes sense)! Don’t buy this book, it just encourages publishers to publish more stories like this one…

[@arabella-gracebrown5309]

our queen sacrificed herself for our entertainment. you’re spoiling us.

[@sarahdray4311]

I'm living for that intro 😍❤️

[@sadrabbit53]

"Also… when does this girl get her period!?!" Ha haaaaa, I loved that. Note: I have no idea what this book is, but it's sounding like FSOG for Kids like wtf

[@Karrolicious]

Luckily, I'm about to turn 25 and well aware of which books I like and won't like, so I've never read After. I did realize though, upon watching your video, how I probably would've read and liked it when I was younger. Looking back at all the romanticized toxic relationships I adored growing up, in books marketed at my very demographic, it's sickening how I now feel lucky to never have accepted such behavior in my real life. Getting educated on abusive relationships and learning how to identify them in books is one of the most important things I've learned, and felt I had to comment and applaud you for taking a stance and bringing awareness to such an important topic. Reviews like yours could literally save lives, and hopefully, your video will reach the right viewers. Keep up the good work, following you into 2020 feels like the biggest privilege!

[@amandahuang4850]

The editing gives me such Contrapoints vibes i love it!!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Ahhhh the highest praise! Thank you!!

[@patriciomejia1114]

Excellent rhyming at the beginning

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Thank you :)

[@rach2519]

This is the first video of yours that I've seen, and I love your style!! So refreshing to see individual style in review videos.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Thank you!!

[@bookswmadi]

My friend thought the relationship in After was adorable and she posted on her snap things like "I wish I had a boyfriend like Harden" and I had to tell her that their relationship is abusive both physically and verbally/mentally. And she still didn't agree with me :(

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Madison Peck that’s so troubling to hear

[@aparnarajesh]

She should come senses

[@aquacxm]

ALL books that have sexual violence and assault have warnings and are mostly intended for older audiences. I understand when people say, oh if its not your type of genre dont read it! Anna did give a warning in between chapters, but she knew that younger audiences are gonna read the book, so she was way outta line. It should have never been an idea.

[@FenaLoL]

I would like to share a personal story that is a great example of how much books like this can ruin peoples' lives. I read this book when I was an insecure teenager and at the point in my life, I fell in love with Hardin and the concept of fixing someone who needs you. Then when I started University I got myself a boyfriend who was almost exactly like him. He had an extremely traumatic childhood, he was toxic and jealous and he isolated me from everyone and manipulated me and abused me emotionally and verbally. Then I read the book again, which encouraged me to stay in this relationship thinking I could still fix him and become happy. But people like that don't change. I lost two years from my life. And now I am the one that has to recover from all the trauma.

[@JordanHarveybooks]

I am so so sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing your story. I think it's extremely important to show that these stories are dangerous. They are targeted towards an audience that is impressionable and romanticize horrific and toxic behaviours. I am truly sorry that this affected you.

[@FenaLoL]

@@JordanHarveybooks I just feel thankful that there are people out there who bring attention to this topics to educate the younger generations. So thank you 😊

[@annabananabones08]

The head band, button down, and lipstick look has killed me dead 😍

[@haggisa]

This is the Christmas gift I didn’t know I needed. Delicious. 😈 Edit: I really appreciate you making a veritable checklist of all the things, that make Harden and Tessa’s relationship abusive and toxic. Even though other people have already ripped this book to shreds here and in blogs (Jenny Trout, f.e.), there’s no such thing as too much critique of romanticisation of abuse, especially considering that films like “The Kissing Booth” and “Sierra Burgess is a Loser” keep being made. Seriously, what is it with Hollywood, and making emotional deception or bets, that make the romantic leads lie and use the other main character an acceptable plot point in romantic movies aimed at teenagers? “She’s All That” was twenty years ago and it seems producers of those types of films haven’t learned a single thing in that time period. Move on, people! It’s high time. Also, I loved the structure of this review. Choosing to shoot each segment in a different setting and clothes gave the video an elegant, funky feel and made it look that much more deliberate. I liked how you positioned yourself as a more professional looking person- wearing a jacket and sitting in front of a desk - when talking about the structural problems of the text, and then switched it up with a more relaxed setting and style of dress, when you talked about how horrible all the characters were - almost as if you were gossiping with us about those completely unlikeable people in a club bathroom. Was the choice of locations a deliberate decision, made so that each segment would have a different feel? 😊 P.S. I know the issue of romanticised abuse is something prevalent in general fanfiction and even many romance novels, but nowhere are its effects as apparent as on Wattpad. I was recently on there, looking for an engaging BDSM romance to read, and it was completely heartbreaking and frustrating seeing hordes of young readers praise the god-awful and harmful depiction of BDSM (written by obviously ignorant authors), as something that helped them learn about the lifestyle. It was like seeing real time reactions fans of “Fifty Shades of Grey” must have had, when the book first came out. Nothing is more dangerous, than readers thinking they are learning something valuable, when absorbing abuse disguised as romance. It’s so goddamn sad.

[@xChikyx]

finishing the year with a last video from the queen herself 🙌🏻♥️

[@florallychaotic]

Jordan looking like a queen CEO of her own company

[@jade3866]

Jordan I love u for this video. The glorification of dysfunctional relationships is so detrimental. many girls are getting into these kinds of relationships because they see it portrayed. Like let’s just keep romanticizing abuse and direct it at teenage girls... cuz that’s not gonna do any harm 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Monie71793]

Great review! 😆 Also: You've changed your outfits several times & I'm here for _all_ of them! 😍😍

[@xfronwenzyoucamex]

I just found out they're adapting the second book into a movie as well?? I have no words...

[@theheraldstudios81]

Oh god I heard about the movie from my parents who thought about seeing it....that summary you gave made me feel sick to my stomach...idk what disturbs me more, that it’s popular or the author that wrote it...

[@Marie-hj6wg]

Even as a little tween who always read stories on Wattpad, I never read After because it was such an awful story. I think I only got to a quarter of chapter one and stopped reading. Even young me had taste

[@PopChanx]

I adore how you put this video together. The small details really got to me, it made this analysis unique, even though After has been ripped to shreds so many times. I'm so so glad you're back to making these videos!! And also, I loved how you're going to donate the profits of this. You're truly amazing 💖 Thank you so much for your work, Jordan!

[@claryy8]

_This_ (watching the Queen's new video) is the only way to exit this year 👌🏻

[@JordanHarveybooks]

haha thank you

[@athenajaxon2397]

I remember when I was a teen and Twilight was considered the most problematic YA romance...

[@NapaCat]

Note: this I think is actually closer to New Adult.

[@averyjohnson7728]

@@NapaCat I feel like that’s both a YA and NA book

[@debzykvids]

Oh booyyy, AFTER! This, alongside 50 Shades and The Kissing Booth, is why I have a general dislike for fan-fiction I avoid it like the plague (with maybe a couple of exceptions). To think it also got a movie adaptation: How could it be possibly be any worse? Anyway, I'm going to enjoy this. Thanks, Jordan! xD

[@evies.1018]

Deborah Kelty What was The Kissing Booth fanfic of? I’m not familiar with that one.

[@debzykvids]

@@evies.1018 Written on Wattpad by Beth Reekles a few years ago that became a series over time, it's a high school romance which was adapted into a Netflix movie that's getting a sequel next year.

[@evies.1018]

@@debzykvids Ewwww

[@debzykvids]

@@evies.1018 Yeah...

[@aparnarajesh]

My sister was fan of beautiful disaster

[@crtzy9626]

Can we talk about the intro it was so amazing and u deserve so much, more views keep it up!!!!!!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Crystal Production Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@gysellehernandez8024]

Everything you just said is so true. I hated the book so much, I just finished the whole series in four days. I’m fifteen and I’m glad I’m not so naive anymore. Back then 13 year old me would have thought this was love. The relationship is just so disgusting and abusive. It’s TOXIC. I don’t understand why a book like this would be worthy of being published. The author was old enough to know this isn’t okay. The whole series was unbearable. I kept reading the series because I thought the relationship was going to get better. Turns out it only gets worse. Didn’t enjoy the series it was terrible. Wouldn’t never recommend to anybody

[@nocturnus009]

Sees a notification there is a Jordan Harvey video... 😮😮😮 ...see said video is 30 minutes: 🍿🍿🍿 Seams like old times.

[@sora1498]

also off topic but im in love with your hair and you look absolutely stunning! i hope your 2020 is amazingg!

[@molly386]

(I realise I’m a bit late lol) Anyway, on a serious note, I feel so bad for Harry Styles, knowing that this is attached to him. Also, girls in my year group have watched the movie (some have read the book as well) and I’m worried that this will be their idea of a healthy relationship. It does break my heart that girls I know will see this and think that Harden (however you spell his name) and Tessa are in a healthy relationship together. It’s terrible. Thank you for the disclaimer, I saw some people read it for fun but no one brought up just how harmful this book is.

[@cfadeathfries]

Lol this is really late but the message at the beginning was very heartfelt and heartwarming, and I just wanted to say a quick little thank you for putting that in ❤️

[@RoseBaggins]

I'm sorry you had to read all that just to come and tell us not to buy the book. I hope your new year brings better books and far better relationships portrayed!! Good for you for supporting such a great cause! Yes, not only do we have to battle the myriad of bad relationships portrayed in books and film, we have to battle the real ones. Here's to a better, loving future!!

[@zactriestoread]

This book just sounds so f*cking gross. Thank you for your seriousness regarding the problems of this book and for pledging to donate.

[@sora1498]

okay BUT that intro was better than the entire after series i fuckiNg-

[@JordanHarveybooks]

han jisung enthusiast hahah thank you 😂

[@blakethunderport4144]

Love you Jordan! I really like your new hairstyle🥰

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Thanks!

[@anniibunni]

I adore the style of this video, it's amazing how you bring your love for film-making into your work!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Anna Nikitin I’m glad you enjoyed it :)

[@henriwhite5771]

Great video review. Sorry you had to read it. Also, the audio in the bathroom wasn't as easy to follow. I could hear what you said, it just took more effort to focus on what was said. Like the slight distance and echo? I'm not sound savvy. Just thought I'd mention it. I'm loving the style you went with when planning and filming this video!!

[@JordanHarveybooks]

Yeah sorry about that! I realized after I'd finished that it was echoey, but I honestly didn't have the heart or energy to refilm it somewhere else. Lesson learned for the future though!

[@cowgrll]

My favorite theatrical booktuber! As always, so well-spoken and so heartfelt. You can tell talent and effort went into this. Anna Todd could never.

[@urbosasfury7539]

"Baby has her first orgasm" The way you said it just made me laugh so hard.