Aftermath

[@clpthegamer3129]

This "report first, apologise later" approach is so scummy, people are so lazy and judgemental on the Internet

[@falcongamer58]

And it feels like a mainly American mentality to do that

[@MagickGOATee]

​​​@@falcongamer58Naw its just brainrot social media and narrow minded takes, like "the first post that gains traction is suddenly automatically true because this one person tweeted it to be so" people are too lazy to do their research on these claims unless they are in the camp of the person being falsely accused. Its pretty fucking stupid all around and we should police it better as a community

[@dkelrk1]

@@falcongamer58 Over here in Korea is the same. Then again Korea has the tendency to follow the examples of America and pushing it to the extremes.

[@falcongamer58]

@@dkelrk1 ikr

[@WelfareCenter]

So true.. especially when there's so many ASMR stuff and literal porn on this site.. it's disgusting

[@ClownnMaid]

Follow Taiga's socials wherever they go, we cannot let the support END!!!!!

[@RaraTheRascal]

#Support4Taiga

[@WelfareCenter]

I recently followed like about a month ago? (I think) but I will follow where ever Taiga goes 🫂

[@RaraTheRascal]

@@WelfareCenter #TaigaTracker🔎🕵️‍♂️🐾

[@mrmagma5856]

#Support4Taiga

[@G_L_1_T_C_H_Y]

#Support4Taiga

[@realNoMee]

I saw Hex's video and in she was in the comments FIGHTING every single person giving her the correct context and information. These people do not want to know the truth. They want to believe drama and feel outraged. They don't care if it affects a person's life.

[@RadicalEdward2]

Remember, bats can’t see but they CAN hear. I wonder if she heard Nux first 🤔

[@JTruong3rd]

Didn't she end up eating crow?

[@lightlng]

Apparently she apologized and set the record straight (which is good). Still though, the way people approach topics like this online is a massive problem. People are way too jumpy.

[@lucky4d725]

@@lightlng she "apologized" yeah....right after doubling down on her conspiracy theory. Literally said "However" ffs.

[@Tailstraw_xD]

She was on twitter doubling and tripling down, too.

[@alexanderstottlemyre3679]

I think the reason marina slanders taiga so much is because she's one of those people that likes to see others suffer because it makes them feel better about being a piece of shit themselves, and now that they've said these awful things about taiga they want them so desperately to be right so they don't have to own up to their bullshit.

[@stormgalaxypegasus]

Ah yes. The one who Nux gets the wrong info from

[@allytank-itykitty7417]

Honestly Marina is a horrible person, from what I have seen she is a nasty piece of work.

[@SeaBiscuitZen]

I think she's jealous Taiga has a cuter voice without being trans

[@Valyona7025]

Yeah man, people are too prideful and get vindictive over being wrong about something, I see this a lot. I personally would gladly rather be wrong about something, than to wrongfully drag someone through the mud who doesn't deserve it. Being wrong about something just means that I learned something. Simply put, it's not about the feeling of being right, it's about truly being right.

[@longloco1]

>"she"

[@Monte_Carlo451]

The shittiest part of all this is that nux weasel'd his way out by saying youtube is doing awful shit and the misinformation he said is being downplayed Man, i hope taiga gets the justice he deserves. Another shitty part of this is that Nux is gonna ignore this cause he already weasel'd out and he is not gonna do anything to amend shit

[@t.b.m.5718]

I believe the most common misconception is that a part of this culture arises due to the algorithmic competition that creators must contend with. It's all a result of engagement farming on KZbin's part. They literally hire Marketing & Communications experts (aka social engineers), and since Google is profiting, they are fine-tuning outrage algorithms based purely on the amount of digital engagement for their AdSense.

[@MecioS20]

Well, he didn't have any major problems with his racist comments so I guess it's close to justice

[@daz211]

Nux may have cleared the air, but he muddied the water. If nothing else, He """apologized,""" Taiga """forgave""" him (Mostly out of a want/need to just move past all this shit, which I do not blame him for) and the best we can hope for is that Nux shuts his fucking trap about Taiga and keeps his name out of his mouth

[@arnaldoalange3869]

Seriously, someone should deplatform Him instead, nux is a Shitty Person.

[@Monte_Carlo451]

@@daz211 HIM? SHUTTING HIS MOUTH? LMAO His job is to yap, if he wasnt called out or if he could still ignore this, he would have kept going

[@TurtleChad1]

I guess Nux's attempt to grow a spine didn't really end up like he expected it too.

[@vava7858]

Well he said sorry but got the wrong information of the way that's happening on taiga talking about it I face slapped so hard he talked the wrong problem what Nux was explaining in his video I guess he tried

[@Youcican]

It's hard to recover a spine that has been broken for years

[@chriscarr6319]

​@@YoucicanHe can't fix a spine that was never there to begin with

[@basedchicana1776]

​@vava7858 How many times has that tard apologized for continuously showing everyone he has no integrity, honesty, and morality that only benefits him and has actually meant the apology? Nux, in general, has a consistent pattern of being an unscrupulous narcissist at best and immature egotist at worse. He's a classic crab in the bucket because he's desperate to pull anyone down underneath himself to try and look better than someone even if, in the end, he succeeds at only making himself look worse with every attempt

[@ObsidianOsama]

Bro you're just a people pleasure or whatever the term is, You always glazing Nux in his comments lolololol💀💀💀

[@NikFromm]

It’s great that the person apologized and actually took action to delete the vids and provide a long community post about it, instead of just saying “whoopsies” in a comment months/years later (**cough** Nux **cough** )… but it SHOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE! I’m betting that the only evidence she “looked at” was the screenshot of your suspension and decided that was “good enough to make a report on.” Here’s a lesson for anyone who wants to report news: THAT AIN’T GOOD ENOUGH! I’m glad that this issue was fixed asap, but in this type of situation that Taiga’s in, any false allegations against them will make it worse.🤦‍♂️ I’m usually a forgiving person, but I would likely be seething at her if all of this was happening to me. I can’t wait for Taiga to get their accounts unbanned and for this bs to end. #JusticeforTaiga 😔

[@NekoinaBox2000]

The issue is that the community post doesn’t take accountability and doubles down about them still being correct :/

[@NikFromm]

@@NekoinaBox2000 The old one did, but she made a new one that was thankfully better and she actually took responsibility for her actions. Again though, it’s just stupid that it happened in the first place.

[@The73MPL4R]

"Not sorry enough to not do it in the first place" as my dad would say

[@akaonigameplays3988]

Here in Brazil, something similar happened to a streamer called Cellbit. His ex-girlfriend accused him of being abusive and sexually abusing her. For years, she always came with attacks in waves to get some views and then she waits and attacks again. She attacked him again. After I think 8 years, she made a real attack and he responded not only with proof that he did not abuse her at all and that he does not even like sex because he is asexual, but that she was the one who was abusive. In fact, in the end, he sued her and 200 other Twitter accounts that helped her. ps I'm not very good with English, I just came to report this and leave some support S2

[@peylol1781]

o caso classico do cellbit

[@Cade_Rufus]

200 other Twitter accounts is CRAAAAAZYYYYY.

[@kosoyurod228]

There exist anower situations, like "Night in the wood" deloveper or streamer Ghost. History don't teach idiots 😢 (I'm bad with English too)

[@rockyjmoon3]

God. It just pisses me off that Taiga has to deal with this BS. I really hope they get the justice they deserve

[@thecopperowl8386]

Keep fighting. They want you to give up. Dont give them that satisfaction.

[@tiho6817]

Exactly! Dance Monkey! DANCE!

[@eisbergsyndrom5010]

"That's a nice accusation, Senator. But how about you back it up with some evidence?" "The evidence is that I made it the fuck up!"

[@sarcastic_alpaca]

This is wild, Taiga shouldnt have to fight for a place to just do what they love on a platform that should be open to everyone. It sucks that i had to find taiga again because of these unfortunate events, taiga dissappeared from my feed and twitter and then the clips started to pop up and i hate that this is how i found taiga again. I really hope Taiga finds their footing again they deserve to exist on the platform without the misinformation and crazy people hounding them

[@NotRussianBadger97]

Same here 😢

[@tiho6817]

nah, KZbin and such are private platforms so they do whatever they decide. They *can* allow you to exist and create here. And *can* ban you if they want.

[@wasweiich9991]

I hope Taiga reads this: I don't watch v-tuber stuff. I really do not. didn't know nux... and only knew shylily by name from a meme site.. But i am following you now. See, i really wish you the best. I mean i am not even the "typical v-tuber watcher"... if you would see me you would probably think i am some guy chopping firewood for a log cabin. Still, please know that you matter to many people. I heard that you were dealing with... self deletion thoughs... and that was when it got personal for me. My brother did that back in 2002.. and well i have seen what it does to people.. and if i can - even just by speaking some encouraging words.. because that is, realistically speaking, the only thing i can do over the web - I want to prevent that. You matter to many people, Taiga - never forget that even if you go to dark places. You are a good person... and keep your head high. You are strong and very talented. I mean... i don't know how i would deal with stuff like that - but i doubt it would be any better. So keep your head high Taiga, you may not believe it, but i am speaking the truth to you. And i do not want anything in return or whtever - so if you doubt that it is true: It is... just accept it as it is. There is no reason for me to lie to you or try to get anything out of you. You don't know me... i only know your persona... but still, this resonates with me like i have never experienced before. Probably becausei was not well liked either and people usually avoidded me because i dared to stick out. But that is fine. I realized that you do not really live, if you do not make some enemies on your way. So, Taiga... head up high. There are not many people that got torn down like that and still climb back up like you do. And i will be watching and cheering for you - and maybe we get some nice music videos again... because frankly, your singing voice is really amazing. If i would try that, people would probably call an ambulance because they would think someone fell down and broke the hip or soemthing...

[@ShodakonFury]

This whole thing starting from an entitled stalker sucks and I definitely hope that justice gets served. But what really angers me is that it got out of control solely because Nux took what he was told at face value and spread that misinformation along with Hex instead of looking into the story. And how he and Hex don’t want to take accountability because they’re practically just doing the “sorry, not sorry” tactic with their “apologies”

[@Wolfaydragoon]

It’s not just those two. Harmful opinions has thrown his hat in the ring, and I literally had an entire back and forth where one viewer would not hear anything in taiga’s defense. These people need an ego check.

[@ShodakonFury]

@@Wolfaydragoon its scary and I just don’t know what goes on in their heads. They’d garner a lot more respect if they took accountability and genuinely apologized. But it seems like destroying their own reputation for the sake of their egos is the norm now

[@SwiftGale1]

Whoever this Marina person is. If they do have a hate boner for Taiga, I can almost guarantee you it's because of jealousy.

[@stormgalaxypegasus]

At this point Nux should've called out Marina ffs

[@Armoredcompany]

@@stormgalaxypegasus He wont, because it would require him to admit he is just as guilty as her and he's done everything that he can to avoid accountability.

[@shadowfan115]

^ this this right here is why both Nux and Marina should be Off the site imo this is disgusting

[@Kold-Kanadian]

oh fun fact: this Marina is also the reason why Twitch had to walk back the artistic nudity rule. day fucking two of implementing it. block her if you see her on twitter, no need to engage

[@Siksama]

@@Armoredcompany I was a fan of Nux, it's sad, if he wants any credibibility for his future career, he should apologize and call out Marina.

[@derpymcderpster5526]

I swear, I'm 'bout to start crying from all the bullshit Taiga is being put through. They didn't deserve any of this. I legit can't even make it through the video without getting pissed off on Taigas behalf.

[@X_Blake]

I just hope they get the justice they deserve. Hopefully sooner than later.

[@Lego_Skeleton]

#Justice4Taiga ʕ⁠っ⁠•⁠ᴥ⁠•⁠ʔ⁠っ

[@IronStaff7]

Im so sorry that Taiga is going through this. Slander is such a hurtful thing to do to someone, especially on the internet. Things will get better and it will all pass with time.

[@drockwell1583]

It's crazy to think that this whole thing started because he turned down some creep. Hope Taiga can get past this.

[@YuJay]

The thing that pisses me off them most about Nux is that he hasn't made a single F*king attempt at contact those who he rangled in INCLUDING CHARGLIE and set the record straight. Charlie's video has been taken down but it still had the biggest reach in my opinion, searching for the old video still has MANY MANY Reuploads..

[@Kiyyou-253]

worse, nux's """"apology"""" is so wrong, it sound like he's not sorry for what he said, he's sorry because he got called out for his BS !

[@ExponsiatoDonego]

@@Kiyyou-253 but none of that is even the worst of the worst. The worst part above everything else is that Nux has been doing this for a long time now. Not just with Taiga, but with a bunch of other creators and drama. And not only does he somehow get away with this with little to no meaningful consequences, he does it while pretending that nothing ever happened. I swear, there has to be something happening behind the scenes. I think this is something that goes beyond just KZbin having a nonexistent moral compass when it comes to who stays and who goes. I swear, something has to be out there keeping Nux from ever facing consequences, like some kind of black magic. I don't know what it is, but I'm sure it's something that we REALLY need to dig deep into.

[@unknowngod8221]

@@ExponsiatoDonego nepotism?

[@ExponsiatoDonego]

@@unknowngod8221 maybe, but it could be something far worse. Something far more sinister.

[@JamesP7]

@@ExponsiatoDonegoI know Nux lied to Charlie about the Kiryu Coco harassment/graduation. Despite nearly every top comment under the video calling him out, he doesn’t care about integrity or the truth. He just wants those clicks.

[@jeromebuck9279]

This sucks, that TaigaHolic has to deal with this BS

[@revengeshadowwolfmoondeath7396]

We here for u cuz we got your back

[@forgwrap]

what in the world is your name 💀

[@theotakuhippie5899]

I don't like how I found out about this femboy's existence. Especially since he's so kind. This drama should not have been the thing to make him blow up on my KZbin suggestions. I really wish he would have popped up before all this. His heart's been in the right place throughout all of this drama and I truly hope he can get his socials back, or conversely, let V-Shojo resurrect him in some way. He's a good boy who deserves all the head pats. I hope one day he can make his own little commune again. And Taiga if you happen to read any of these comments, I wish you all the good this universe has to offer you. Also, you deserve a lot more than what you've been getting. Hang in there bud.

[@Tailstraw_xD]

Taiga's a much bigger person than I am. If someone dared to threaten my livelihood, especially on some crazy word-of-mouth BS, I wouldn't be anywhere near this level of forgiving.

[@SamaelArmaros]

Saw this vid and after watching so many of Rev's vids about this situation I decided enough is enough. Not sure how much I can help but I'm in your corner now. There's just no truth anymore, only a spin on the events to dodge the responsibility of one's actions. For what it's worth I'm sorry this happened. Four years too damn long of this crap. Hit your discord too, but as I type I'm supposed to be getting ready to end my night. So will try to be social tomorrow morning. Typing's going to go to crap cause I got my fingers crossed for you Taiga. Stay strong and when you can't, you got everyone that's been here before I showed up.

[@Muizemullard414]

Props to the youtubers that help tagia out, its easy to focus on the negative but its important to also view the postive. So thanks to rev say desu, salvi, royalty is here and many others for their coverage. Please feel free to include more down below l because i know a lot of youtubers come out in support.

[@allytank-itykitty7417]

just seen Gamza of all people covering it, and Khyo has gone over it aswell, just about to watch the Gamza video so will update as to what it contains. But never expected Gamza (Warhammer youtuber turned Anti Warhammer) to cover it.

[@XanKreigor]

Its more depressing to me that some of his previous "friends" and crossover streamers just washed their hands of Taiga and didn't even try to help, because the allegations made him "toxic" to their CAREER so they can't risk it...

[@Wolfaydragoon]

Shout out to ioz, they also tried to get word out.

[@Dice-Z]

@@XanKreigor Guilt by association is a cancer that needs to be cured.

[@grantjeffcoat3142]

Its strange seeing this version of Taiga. The go-lucky energy is gone. The light has left his eyes. He's morphed to a more somber and serious person.

[@ChaoticIntention]

Sorry to hear the stress and trouble Taiga has been going through from all this. First time hearing about Taiga from Rev, it is idiotic and hypocritical for these drama vTubers, who don't do the work, same time unironically complain how cancel culture is going to get them, but that's my own annoyance of them, just wish for these people to give Taiga the platform to correct everything they got false, and just help. But that's ideally speaking, the skeptic inside believes they could milk the generosity by having Taiga on their channel and say they did what they could, but idk. I wish Taiga the best and hope things be stress free, that he doesn't have the need to see who else is gossiping about him

[@void_official404]

Crazzy how i found out about TaigaHolic when i was watching some of Nux videos. Everyone should help Taiga get back his big audience, even tho i only saw a few videos of him

[@Stavv_]

Man, Taiga does not deserve all this madness and sadness. Let's keep this support energy and hoping that they get the justice that they deserve! #Justice4Taiga

[@Valyona7025]

Remember. You can trust an apology a million times. You can trust a person only once.

[@yoshilord724]

I really hope things get better, taiga. No one deserves to go through what you’re going through. I will say that people like Nux, with a poor apology and doing nothing to fix the situation, deserve the backlash on their end. Have a good one!

[@Aogami20]

This just goes to show exactly how serious this type of accusation is. Even when it's not true it still does so much damage you'd better be one thousand percent positive before you throw that shit out at someone in public. Nux only made a video because this finally started to gain more mainstream traction and essentially forced his hand. He is not to be commended for something he only did when dragged kicking and screaming. Taiga is probably right that we're not getting any more out of him. He'll just be like look at all these videos I made where I mention it, talk about it, here's clips of me saying I'm sorry isn't that good enough. And it's like ... no, it's not idiot. But he doesn't want to make it right, he wants to put it behind him.

[@Dice-Z]

Agreed. But people have the right to not respect nux anymore over this.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Hang in there, a ton of people are in your corner against these false accusations and the result is so unfair, I pray you get justice.

[@tailedgates9]

Taiga's lasting message of "keep the good vibes" has been my moto for decades. Lol No matter where you are, spread the love, spread the cheer, don't give into bullies, don't give into lies and manipulation. Wish you the best Taiga. Sorry again about all of this.

[@ayamiblade9848]

It hurts to sound Taiga so Broken and clearly suffering... I wish I could hold you Taiga. :( I feel so terrible for what's happening... tbh I honestly cried hearing this and hearing that pain and hurt in your voice... I can't even imagine how awful this must be... ;.; I Truly hope you make it through this, whatever happens, I'll stick with you.

[@JoltOfJoy]

I recently stumbled upon this situation through recommendations about a month or so ago from a video that was shining a light on this whole situation. I’m not one to really get invested into anything, however I truly wish the best for Taiga. A series of unfortunate events that are entirely undeserved. I wish him the best, genuinely. Lets hope its only up from here.

[@_Madara_.]

Its all good. Keep holding on Taiga. This whole thing is gonna turn around and you're going to be the one On top. I dont Believe in Karma. But what goes around, comes around. All these people attacking u will be the ones crying soon. And you will be on top. Keep fighting! Keep hanging on! Keep going! Aint even gonna talk about Nux bruh idc if he apologized, man is mad annoying imo. #JusticeForTaiga

[@0xC47P1C3]

Keep going. People want you to succeed!

[@biddinge8898]

its so saddening how this situation is damn near over, because the trolls have won. how sobering is it, to watch someone pretty much die socially because these awful grifters have come down on him. I personally believed some of it. and what's worse is how pervasive it is yet no one even does anything. I'm not sure how anyone could in the first place. except just paying out of pocket. my parents won't let me pay out of pocket for anything. so I already have my hands tied.

[@Cheesesteaks4Life98]

Wait they will never get their channel back?

[@Spyke7566]

@@Cheesesteaks4Life98you know how people are sometimes. False info misinfo decides to bully them and yeah pretty much idioticy.

[@Dice-Z]

@@Cheesesteaks4Life98 If they are unlucky, likely so.

[@Dice-Z]

But keep your money for yourself. This isn't the kind of situation kids should be involving themselves in.

[@bigthecat9457]

Damn bro i feel so bad for you. I haven't been a fan for long but it is so frustrating to see how people keep putting dirt on you're name I hope things get better and blows over much love ❤️

[@flufflepimp2090]

Years ago I remember reading through all the "evidence" documents that were put forward the first time you were attacked and thinking, "There is literally zero evidence of anything here". I should have been more vocal about how BS it all was then. Just wanted to come somewhere to say I'm not a regular but you've always made evenings fun when I did tune in. This entire situation is fugged and I despise the poison mob mentality bullying that cancel culture is. I hope things turn around soon and your army of supporters hold you up and you can get back to the normal day in day out of doing what you love doing

[@alixrobits]

Taiga is really strong. I hope he gets everything back that was taken from him and has a better time on the internet in the future

[@jtoegi]

Awww hope you get lots of hugs and headpats bro ❤

[@M1naxxzz]

I remember watching Taiga's streams n his channel.I love himm I feel so sorry he dont deserve that...

[@kittykat9691]

the world is like in the song of milli adult paradise and one line is exactly that : "were cruelty becomes heroric."

[@PABCOM1]

We are here, always. While I'm not the most dedicated fan, I will not stand for this kind of slander and misinformation. Just like everybody here, you got us on your back Taiga.

[@ViperAcidZX]

As someone who only caught wind of all the controversy recently, I'm really sorry you had to go through all of this. It sucks that there are people take one thing one person said and just blindly run with that narrative only to spread it further and then go out of their way to witch hunt others without even getting the proper content, much less the facts, about the situation. It's like these people who follow only the hateful rhetoric of someone who just want to pick on other people like schoolyard bullies because they know that their victims are miles away from their monitors and can get away with it. It's even worse when you don't have any support from genuine friends or loved ones to give you a leg to stand against the false accusations. I hope that you'll be able to recover and move on from this.

[@femboykirito3381]

I even made my apology (Hopefully directly to Taiga) for messing up and ended up believing the misinformation that someone else given to me. They may not know me, but I want to show my support for them. #FreeTaiga

[@saswatsethi2739]

Good to see that I guess

[@teocross2077]

After all of this - all we can hope for is that Taiga has the IRL support they need - friends, family, just someone they can go to after disconnecting from this shite place called the internet. Everyone needs that comfort and should have access to that comfort.

[@ahmedbeziz2681]

Justice for taiga

[@AxeMan-vb8nd]

I want to remind everyone not to live in hatred even if it comes from a place of love. That simply isn’t a good thing for anybody involved.

[@AxeMan-vb8nd]

It is ok to be angry about someone or something, and you don’t have to forgive them. But I worry that hatred will only make the situation worse.

[@ExponsiatoDonego]

Such a wonderful message. It's a shame that it's going to mainly fall upon deaf ears.

[@ablackbunny3149]

​@@AxeMan-vb8ndYeah, we just need to move on. Taiga looks like he wants to move on now, we should too.

[@Dice-Z]

it's okay to think Nux is a PoS. As long as people don't go harass him.

[@dkelrk1]

Yeah seems like that's Taiga's wish as well. She's going to technically forgive Nux? Ok I'll technically stop harrassing Nux and by that I mean I'll still think he is a PoS but I'll keep it to myself.

[@dakodalacey3632]

I dont really care for the content taiga puts out ive seen some stuff from him and found some of it entertaining. But this is the kinda shit that shouldn't be allowed or happen to creators it's sad people will do anything just to make others feel bad. I hope taiga can get his channel back up and will be in high hopes once more.

[@soragokinushira4556]

While I know nothing about Taiga, I’m sorry that Taiga is going through this. As issues like this rise, the faith and trust in humanity continues to fall. It always starts with rumors or stories, and what hurts is that people take them at face value and see them as the truth without looking for the context and evidence. Just claims with nothing behind them. One little thing, one little rumor, will start drama and people want to eat it up with little to no care as to who it affects. I apologize if this makes anyone angry.

[@Fxmbro]

I will be a Taiga subscriber when he comes back to youtube, ong

[@daz211]

@@Fxmbro fr, it's gonna be a massive influx of subs from all the people who are "late to the party" as it were

[@murdock94]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you have to apologize just as loudly as you accused. I don't think anyone that is apologizing now is doing that.

[@thesussexbunion]

I don't know who you are, as I only became aware of your situation through Salvi. What I DO know is that you are a human being, as are we all. I recognize that tone of depression/defeat, and I wanted to send you love. Don't let this beat you. You can't expect people to be normal, or decent people- the only thing you can do is be responsible for your actions. As long as you remain true to yourself, you're loads ahead of the rest.

[@ViroVeteruscy]

Hex's recent video on Twitch is pretty bad, still spinning it to be Taiga's fault despite "apologizing" for getting information wrong. Even tries to teach the chat what is sexual content for ToS despite her doing similar things such as posting Zhu Yuan's crotch which can be considered against ToS based on the context of her posting. If you watch, as a fun drinking game, take a shot for every time she says "however" >w>

[@greenskull3384]

The absolute least Nux can do is DM Charlie. I highly doubt he'll do that though, let alone that will ever find out who this mysterious "friend" is. I just hope this finds its way onto Charlie's radar one wear another.

[@blakepollock8074]

nux did do a follow up on a roundtable with I think charlie on it and he amended his telling of the situation to say that it did explode on hearsay but put extra emphasis on the allegations to lead on the idea it was justified anyway and most likely correct (but not proven).

[@iambumbo7534]

@@blakepollock8074 thats the thing, the only reason nux even said "sorry" was because of the backlash he got, had there not been any he could've given zero fucks about it. hes a proud narcissist that barely researches drama and backs out before shit gets heated

[@Dice-Z]

I highly doubt that charlie wants to have to do anything with this even if he learns of it. He doesn't seem to be as unconditionally supportive of freedom of expression as he used to be, and willing to compromise on his morals for it.

[@greenskull3384]

@@Dice-Z This isn't political tho. The right hates cancel culture and the left loves femboys. He can't miss. And it's not like Nux is any kind of threat to him. If moist learns about this, he has nothing to lose from setting the record straight. If anything, it would make him look pretty cool.

[@connor3640]

​@@greenskull3384 except you're leaving out the part where taiga IS controversial, any long time follower of his knows this, literally look through his community posts on the waybackmachine, he admits to being into shotacon and portraying his character to fit that fantasy. Charlie is against those types of kinks hes stated before, why would he then be on his side? Why do you think all of the taiga supporters are all people who JUST found out about this? why do you think all of his old fans left? THIS IS WHY. He's manipulating his audience and trying to back track, he's not who he used to be and he changed his entire persona to fit some pedophillic fantasy, its weird asf.

[@nickconway2008]

#Justice4Taiga We're all staying by his side, no matter what!

[@silentotaku8]

Protect the tiger

[@ScribeFromNowhere]

Momentum is building and more people are calling out nonsense. Truth does matter. Keep defending yourself. Real Ippo moments.

[@memedreampotato3380]

The main issue with nux is that he just says what he hears He does not really do any research and he just yaps Hopefully he can learn from this situation to not just go along with his "informants" and actually look in to things before he starts talking about sensitive topics

[@infinityzer054]

Taiga returns…good, good people must be strong

[@Canbutcant]

I feel for Taiga, we live in a harsher climate now but if enough of flock over in support. It won't matter. I think.

[@nobody5333]

Honestly I’m glad channels like Shirybun and RotaltyisHere cover the heinous shit that’s happening to Taiga. It might not be the best remedy, but spreading videos that cover the whole topic at once might get people’s attention, and I really hope those videos (along with these clips) pop off in the algorithm.

[@mrpumperknuckles1631]

I deal with this shit in real life as well.. this is often called work place harassment or workplace bullying. It’s when someone does whatever they can to ruin other people in the workplace. They will turn around and lie about the whole situation and then make something out to be worse than it ever was originally…

[@unknowngod8221]

nepotism at it's finest even if it's ruin the company as a whole

[@havensplace]

much love. remember to spread love and not hate. lets go on as a community thats filled with passion and not harassments. dont be what you hate. if people be mean to you block them. what are they gonna do it the internet

[@Shyguy-3300]

Hearing Tiga’s voice saddens me because they’re tired of all of this drama that’s been going on for 4 years and information is very wrong. I wish there was more people who look into these situations and don’t cast judgment immediately because there are always two sides to each story. Only a few people I know of that reported well on this case is Rev and Salvi. I hope Tiga gets their channel and Twitter/X accounts back and just be done with this drama. Wish nothing but the best

[@loogiemusmaximusoftides8540]

Its always hilarious how quick people are to accuse before putting any evidence forward

[@CareerKnight]

One of the internet's many sins often made worse by being paired with arguably the internet's first sin often called the gift or greater internet fuckwad theory, basically that if you give a normal person anonymity and an audience a lot of them will start acting like complete assholes. Combine that with the rush to judgement and you get a bunch of people doing horrible things all while thinking they are completely morally justified. Even when they actually are on the morally correct side these people often take it way too far because to them once someone has been declared bad everything is fair game.

[@shimmyking4]

quite frankly i don't know what Taiga will do now, whether he tries to push forward or start over from scratch or even just give up on streaming all together but whatever he chooses to do i wish him the best of luck with it

[@SkrapMetal84]

hope to see him return to youtube.

[@Narlan1]

I've been a quiet viewer of taiga for years and just enjoyed thier content Quietly doing what I can to put some positive Hopefully the people that wronged them gets justice for this Fucking with peoples lives like this is crazy

[@nett_the_tree]

Although all of these past 4 years have been very bad for Taiga, things could have ended up a lot, _lot_ worse. Taiga truly has a great community❤️

[@Jmonkeh]

There's no way Charlie can't be aware of this by now. The fact that he won't even say like a quick "Sorry I platformed this, accidentally" is pretty shitty.

[@Dice-Z]

Charlie has had disappointing views lately so not surprised.

[@Lunaspecter69420]

only way for charlie t know about the truth is to be contacted by someone so the impression can be corrected or by some miracle charlies catchs wind of this and sees the truth

[@pro_154]

If fucking sucks at all these people are getting away with spreading this information and abusing the report system but the one actual innocent person in this situation is consistently getting attacked.

[@salty_fish8762]

taiga is not innocent, even he admits he makes mistakes

[@CH-Sibrand]

@@salty_fish8762 If what taiga did counts as a mistake big enough to cause shit like that nux should have been deplatformed ages ago himself.

[@tiho6817]

welcome to the Internet

[@KloutGawdKhaos]

@@CH-SibrandTaiga’s a shotacon 😂😂

[@CH-Sibrand]

@@KloutGawdKhaos And nux regularly fucking uses literal porn of all kinds in his content ye I am sure thats better kek. Also small people exist. Petite might a word to learn for you.

[@Ace-Trix]

2:57 time can change some people never will, unfortunately we live in a world where you can say one thing without any proof and people will side with you without knowing the full circle of things

[@temporalcatcher9950]

First time viewer. From the sounds of it you’re not just affected by cyberstalking, but also what a person I just watch named Kurena Fujio in her series about Trend Culture. She has a series on cyberstalking as well. You may wanna watch them for your own catharsis.

[@SeniorCharry]

I’ve been against cancel culture from the start, but unfortunately people get so emotional online and refuse to do research on topics. There’s been so many innocent people who had their lives destroyed by false accusations. No one stood up for them because they feared being cancelled themselves. The only way to stop cancel culture is to hold everyone accountable. If someone falsely accuses another, they need to be harshly punished. No hiding behind social shields like gender, LGBTQ or anything else that’s overly protected. Everyone needs equal treatment and equal punishment.

[@Dom_Maretti]

The stream did end on a bit more of a positive note. It was a very hopeful stream...lots of venting, but Taiga's vocal tone shift as the night went on was beautiful...and the singing too.

[@unironicallydel7527]

tbf taiga is pretty small in the vtuber scene. I barely know of him from clips and stuff but from what I've seen, he's done nothing wrong. he's a lewd degen but so are alot of people on youtube. Thats no excuse for a ban.

[@fausthope1850]

*i've never been thinking about going onto twitch till now, i wish them the best.

[@HodgePodge218]

These people will twist anything in your favor into something bad Stick with it taigs truth will always prevail if you keep at it never give up

[@WelfareCenter]

I feel so bad for Taiga.. I hope youtube reverts Taiga's channel back 😭

[@Mrhyimbob]

I'm really starting to hate KZbin. We love you taiga. I hope you get your socials back soon

[@bokunochannel84207]

Forgive, never forget. Avoid them, they are bad ppl don't get contact with them. But its not worth to pursue them. What worse is that, most of those ppl probably just jump in to the problem and start accusing rach other just for the engagement.

[@somedudewatchintv5297]

It's crazy that this kind of thing keeps popping up. Someone will just go be misinformed into a megaphone, and a bunch of people will take hardline stances on things they never looked into. If they don't reference the Nux Can't Stop Lying stream I just default to thinking they're lazy and uninformed.

[@jchristiangarcia5946]

Well even if Nux did apologies to Taiga. It wouldn't resolve his own controversies now, his drama would be a minimum if he did his research properly. Nux is now a new eye of controversy in this dang age, it's his fault that his controversial drama became a big deal to everyone now. Edit: I hope Charlie could help with resolving your problems cause once Charlie makes a statement about your controversy and disgusted on how much pain the people caused to you. Not all people can beat Charlie in a beef battle from how much experience the previous people tried to beef battle with Charlie. I hope he soon makes a statement about your false allegations.

[@S386LWBNM]

Defamation lawsuits? Idk, hope the best for Taiga.

[@jamesiewalters2360]

This is just madness Taiga, madness. You have my support, and it pains me that I can't do more... in all honesty, I think I would have gone full doomsday prepper by now if I were capable of it. It sounds ridiculous, but so does the rest of this bullshit, so the prospect of a nuclear war over refusal of using pronouns sadly no longer feels outlandish to me. The pendulum can't swing fast enough, huh...?

[@samg8939]

Its time to win and rebuild. Full speed ahead, bud.

[@waberoid]

I feel we have to blame Twitter for cancel culture. There are deeper parts to it, but those things are deeply rooted in that website. I mean also Facebook probably, hell just social media I guess, but yeah it's pretty bad. So many people being too empathetic and relying on emotions rather than logic is honestly backwards to how we were taught in schools.

[@Kyosumari]

Cancel culture has always existed. it's just evolved. Now it's easier than ever to ruin someone's life, with the barrier of anonymity empowering it, no less.

[@theodorefilkins3462]

Honestly all this could be avoided if companies stopped hindering creators and also actually reviewed complaints, I never watched Taiga's stuff but I'm so sorry that you're going through this and as a random person who's just seeing all this stuff I hope everything gets better for you

[@8thS1nn]

My respect just keeps going up for Taiga.

[@Sukuna1-_-7]

I'm glad I didn't judge Taiga for being a femboy ❤

[@zombiepenguin7134]

Does anyone know who this "friend" Nux has been referring to regarding of the things said about Taiga? Let alone the person/creator who ignited this whole shitestorm in the first place?

[@AceUkiyoGeatsIX]

Its his millionaire friend VintiageBassArchive/Dylan A Law

[@Alexgamerkid18]

While I might not have been a great fan of Taiga, I did enjoy the content on occasion and I wish Taiga the best in trying to restore things. Its not fair to have ones life upended due to one vengeful person being vindictive. This is just another reason we as a group (KZbin users) need to get KZbin to change their policies on their busted copyright system, what's to stop someone making a script ai bot from essentially destroying so many great content creators just to be the "cool hackzor" who wrecked all the channels. Poor Taiga here is another person whos been hurt by the shoot first, bury the body, and questions never method KZbin uses. All that needs to be done is a strike can only by claimed by true holders of the copyrights via a code given to only the holders, their affiliates, and the platforms that way the random bad actors cant just wreck a channel because they be mad at the person who makes content. if its a content issue then handle it with time and a grace period to fix the issues and verify that its a real issue and not abuse of the system and not hit the nuke button because some counter went too high. TLDR: Good luck Taiga ♥ / KZbin fix the broken system, stop wasting time and money on the layout.

[@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous]

Some people suck, true... some people do stuff for a living to get by, also sad to admit. But sometimes... You need to take a step back to see the bigger picture, not on part of the picture that bothers you, and admire what the picture you taken, and that picture you take taiga? its a pretty picture, hope this help a tiny bit✨