NOTHING New In MILAN! | Arteta Under PRESSURE! | CHELSEA Crucial! | The Fourever Arsenal Podcast

[@TurkishLDN]

Way too negative guys! Unsubscribing.

[@DreOmar876]

😂😂

[@billydolton7252]

@TurkishLDN - Hawsss it going people ??

[@tamerathenery7222]

I almost unsubscribed because you put the people in wrong places. it was bugging me. until I saw it was back to normal half way.. james in bottom.

[@ryanwilson368]

Was just about to write p1ss off then until i realised it was Turkish 😂😂😂😂

[@MikeJames.]

@TurkishLDN is definitely picking his own comment for next weeks comment of the week

[@MikeJames.]

James loves Lee so much he’s now taking fashion tips off him with his beanie

[@girltal.k]

And got carras specs on

[@thegloryhunter3118]

Trying to be trendy . Lol what a poser

[@Rmt4htx]

James probably got that beanie on because his hairline is clapped stressing over arsenal

[@MikeJames.]

@@Rmt4htx harsh man chill out it’s just a joke 😅😂

[@jaycee5750]

Poor Lee is dealing with losing Aaron Ramsdale and Edu in the space of a few months, can’t be easy…

[@CaiReeve1]

Jordan with a new set up and background for every pod, this is the sort of change we need to see arteta implement into his starting 11’s

[@nietzchepreacher9477]

Tbf arteta does change it every game

[@TheRealSlimsagey7]

The up the nose camera angle is definitely a choice

[@itakeallws2662]

absolute gold 😂

[@Daveyj000]

Still brings nothing to the podcast.

[@itakeallws2662]

@@Daveyj000 arteta brings nothing to the team but 2nd place 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@jozeydirtz]

If Lee came back with a smile and said “Gotcha” that would have been some top tier comedy 😂😂

[@jonathanamadi9450]

Turkish’s face during Lee’s dramatic exit is the most hilarious thing. The man’s stoic and unfazed

[@CrowzEye]

😂😂

[@Snippets635]

He’s on the icy pollen most of the time, it makes you like that trust me lol

[@Existence_Predicate]

Didn't change his expression at all

[@jonathanamadi9450]

You love to see it. I can’t lie, when you run the transfer analysis back, pretty hard to even care about this performance when you see how shocking our last window was. Sterling on deadline was is something wolves should be doing

[@ArsenalN5]

Very true bro!!😆😄🙃❤

[@Infiniteinjurytime]

If we're signing players for "effort" I might as well dust off my boots 😂

[@tsel18]

Rare Jordan W - bang on! The standards of this club had plummeted

[@granthibberd6069]

😴

[@coombem1978]

A decade of trash and no cl before arteta arrived. 😂

[@eddietee6305]

They are not serious. They are conning tye fans.

[@1972dsrai]

Lfc fan. You have to remember its Arteta’s first job and he’s still learning and will make mistakes. You’ve come a long way from when he came him. You were miles off competing, you’re now serious challengers, consistently getting top four. Just be careful what you wish for. You don’t have the depth in cover of some teams and the system relies on certain key players staying fit.

[@1972dsrai]

@@coombem1978lfc fan. I agree about Arteta, but Wenger was also consistently getting top fohr even after having to sell his best players to help with the stadium build. He wanted to leave, but was persuaded to stay as they needed the extra revenue from the UCL. He did an amazing job under the circumstances.

[@glenwilkie5765]

James in his indie phase.

[@TheeChronicle]

He's in Italy. The Harry potter look is british

[@MikeJames.]

Panel: criticises Martinelli Lee: and I took that personally 🚶🏻‍➡️

[@damianscott5933]

Some fans have too personal attachments to players and managers.. so they’ll never be realistic about progress or decline 😂😂😂

[@MoquiaoMoquiao]

​@@damianscott5933this is unfortunately very true!

[@Airyed]

​@@damianscott5933or struggling to admit they are wrong too much ego nothing wrong with being wrong about things

[@onkelskrue123]

its part of being a fan, he cant help it. Martinelli is his son

[@jualinachomoza]

😂😂😂😂

[@shaheenali1509]

No way are we still defending martinelli😅

[@kevin93azyu]

We never judge wingers based on their defensive contribution except for Martinelli LOL.

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Managers do

[@josepholusanya4956]

Jordan was spiting in this pod. Lee is just getting into his feelings kmft

[@Lukjinder]

Arteta needs to be accountable

[@superflyjimmysnucka9068]

"Chelsea aren't that good"! I've got news for Jordan! Neither are arsenal!

[@14_Phoenix]

@@josepholusanya4956 Lee was factually correct. Martinelli has been rubbish for more than a year but it doesn't mean that he wasn't better than saka yesterday. Saka was THAT poor. Lost possession 33 times, completed just 3 out of 19 crosses. 4 out of 11 dribbles

[@josepholusanya4956]

@ they were both trash but praising for putting his cross in is a joke

[@evamariamagdalena]

Why single out one player for playing badly? The problems are above.

[@comeonyougunnas]

Lee defending and getting upset over Martinelli who’s been absolutely horrid since last season. This is exactly why we’ll never win the league. We as fans harbour and protect once-good but now average players too much, and so do the board and Arteta

[@comeonyougunnas]

Gabriel Jesus.. Martinelli.. trossard.. all fall into that once good but now average bracket. All need to be replaced and sold

[@Arty2senis]

With Jesus we admit it, Trossard play out of position. Agree on Martineli. It's like unforgotten love with Tierne. Martineli is becoming our Tierney in this sense.

[@jamescarter5041]

You are correct; Lee's opinions are affecting Arsenal's performances. If Lee changed his opinions Vieira, Trusty, Turner, Tavares, Runnarson, kiwior and Soares Havertz would help Arsenal to win big trophies! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kevinb9830]

He has, but he was probably the best player against Inter. Regularly got in some good crosses but nobody there on the end of them.

[@Arty2senis]

@kevinb9830 but maybe crosses arent good when nobody is there or delivery doesn't reach receiver. I mean he crosses when not needed, but doesn't cross when 2-3 players are in a box.

[@samroshdycoaching]

Lee walking off mid pod killed me 😂

[@stankodugandzic7933]

If Arsenal lose to Chelsea, aftv will explode

[@nicchan11]

Nah spoiled me😭

[@YuhnahmeanFearon]

Imagine how he like with is mrs😂

[@Goonerboy-mz1ey]

Then he remembered how much he makes from AFTV 😂

[@Someonestoken]

Was he acc crying 😢

[@wijdankhan98]

Jordan is spot on with Martinelli. We keep making excuses for his performances and credit his defensive work - a starting winger for Arsenal should be more than capable of doing both. He creates nothing, dribbles with his head towards the ground and floats aimless crosses into the box. If Arteta is such a big fan of him why was he prepared to spend £80m on Mudryk on the back of Martinellis best season? We need an upgrade ASAP

[@charles9489]

Like your points, but Arteta's defense first approach is really affecting our attackers.

[@holisticvillage]

9:40 🎯 thank you Jordan. Too many wafflers are saying we played well because in comparison to our DEAD performances against Bournemouth and Newcastle, this was “better” yet when compared against the true metric we should be using, winning the Prem or (wishful thinking 😂) CL, last night was DEAD DEAD DEAD!

[@Freespeechmedia-r2x]

James rates a winger for his defensive skills and a striker for creating space! Complete waffle, delusion and excuses!

[@rickyproctor6562]

@@Freespeechmedia-r2x Precisely what I commented. Imagine if we were rating Henry for his space creation.

[@amt7386]

I saw the game too. Arsenal was not playing well.

[@akassh10]

martinelli is the reason saka gets marked by 3 players because the opposition knows Martinelli aint gonna do jack on the other flank.

[@дениспобединский-п4т]

Spot on

[@OhHeyBrian165]

Yep & we're so predictable at the moment. They just know how both Saka & Martinelli will play.

[@AlphaPacino-fb3wz]

Lol you definitely either don't watch football or don't know what you're watching. Stop this BS about Saka been tripled up on. Teams set up like that against both our wingers.

[@anthonysibanda7874]

I would rather sterling at this point

[@ad6892]

@@AlphaPacino-fb3wztriple team is a bit much. But saka has set a standard where he get’s doubled every game. The only game where he was left 1-1 this season was that first 45 min against liverpool and we saw what he was doing and i only think lpool did that because it was slots first time facing us. Thing is we just do not look threatening, I don’t think thats because of odegaard being out. I just think teams have studied how we attack/press and adjusted. Now its artetas turn to adjust but he has been struggling to find a solution. Im deffo Not arteta out because its his first 5 years of coaching as a whole. But i also think the league is out of reach this season.

[@GunnerB.N5]

Spent the whole game spamming crosses into the box, Inter were more than happy to deal with it and allowed us possesion. The summer window as expected has cost us.

[@14_Phoenix]

​@@lombechalungumana5438 played better than saka yesterday

[@snipedotgenius]

He’s turned us into a pub team on a Sunday with this style of play ..

[@Existence_Predicate]

They weren't happy. The manager and players came out saying after that they wanted to control the ball way more but couldn't because they were under pressure

[@maxymax32]

@@Existence_Predicate they’re ignoring that for agendas, just like we apparently brought ode on for views while Havertz is leaking from the head lmao

[@1972dsrai]

Lfc fan. I didn’t think Martinelli was that bad tbh. He put in some good balls.what you’re lacking is a quality #9.

[@SKG4454]

The defending of Martinelli is laughable. Pathetic

[@abdulqoyumelelu7417]

Absolutely pathetic

[@tris87don16]

He’s dusted

[@Mirrorboy1991]

He did more than Saka last night.

[@naledimotau8498]

Saka barely did anything last night. Nelli did way more and sent in good crosses, a natural striker would have done something with those chances.

[@MrReeealist]

Horrible player imo. Just imagine we had someone like Leao or Kvaratshkelia or Raphinha? Martinelli is a nothing player who's been trash for nearly 2 years now

[@Gesuselsaviour]

Arteta is our version of Spurs under Porch and Liverpool under Rodgers. A nearly man who has taken us as far as he can. We need a change soon!

[@purpleaki06]

Porch was a good introduction, a way in you could say. But they needed someone else when they entered. Like Brian Hall

[@kevinb9830]

And what happened to Spurs when Poch left?

[@Gesuselsaviour]

@@kevinb9830 Forget Spurs they've always and will always be shite. The better question to ask is what happened to Liverpool after Rodgers left...

[@kevinb9830]

@@Gesuselsaviour They got Klopp. Is there anyone better than Arteta out there? Is there a Klopp?

[@Gesuselsaviour]

@@kevinb9830 There's Mancini and Zidane. Both proven winners of major titles, and are light-years ahead of Arteta in management.

[@bobb7593]

Glad to see that reaction from lee. Don't agree with him, but shows he's suffering like the rest of us. Maybe he can vent that frustration a little more at julian and Robbie who blindly support the team and manager.

[@AlienOmertaTV]

Lee is the biggest flip flop fan ive ever seen lmao way too emotional instead of logical

[@aronworrall5758]

Saka was not better than martinelli last night Lee was right... Just because saka is the better player don't mean he always has a better game he was just as average

[@tvolution1]

Agreed. Will chop and change and tailor his opinion based on what show he is on. But because he says things in a forthright manner, people are tricked into thinking he ‘says it as it is’. But when you watch enough of these pods/shows, you quickly sus people out.

[@Airyed]

​@@aronworrall5758yep Darmien had a fantastic game against Saka

[@JamesCM86]

Lee chats shite

[@1972dsrai]

@@aronworrall5758lfc fan. I thought Martinelli played ok, he put in some good balls. You just don’t have anyone to put them away.

[@kivzyy]

16:50 LEE CRASHOUT‼️

[@KTRIGGZ]

LEGEND

[@APOELARA-bt5zh]

@@KTRIGGZ What did he said at 25:09??

[@KTRIGGZ]

@@APOELARA-bt5zh No idea mate

[@APOELARA-bt5zh]

@@KTRIGGZ Looks like Odegaard will not play on Sunday but it doesn’t make sense if you take into consideration the expressions of the rest of the panel and it would have been out of context.

[@KTRIGGZ]

@@APOELARA-bt5zh O…k? Not sure what relevance this is to Lee walking off stream..but good on you

[@gooner1756]

The last few games have given me and other fans a tough reality check. We aren’t as good as we think we are It’s been 5 years, why aren’t we “that” team yet? Not even a goal Vs Inter without a few of their best players is embarrassing when we’ve only got one out And as usual it’s cause of what we failed to do in the summer window

[@dbrowninc]

James is delusional and his standards have dropped significantly

[@dbrowninc]

Arteta is the problem. Talent ID, tactics, lineup. It all comes back to him.

[@gooner1756]

@@dbrowninc i feel like we’ll all realise this later Even the lack of a striker, I have a feeling we didn’t get one Cus of artwta. He didn’t want one cus it don’t suit his “style” Cus we know money isn’t an issue we spent 100mil on a CDM

[@gooner1756]

@@dbrowninc he’s not he speaks sense 9.5/10😂

[@tikemyson5627]

@@gooner1756 arteta done nothing more then what Brendan Rodger’s done in English football with more money spent aswell

[@blackpound2297]

Surprised Arteta hasn’t tried Sterling on the left which is his best position. It has been worth a go for weeks now

[@dalefails]

36:09 James: “oh yeah I forgot we’re all out of position” I didn’t realise Arteta was managing this pod

[@jordanholmes9715]

This episode had it all!! Walk outs, rants, disagreements, and me agreeing with Jordan for once 🤣🤣

[@SKG4454]

James saying havertz had a good first half being a nuisance and winning fouls 😂 You must have loved Lacazette then mate.

[@johndaly7544]

Jordan putting in more effort on his set up then Arsenal have playing in the last 3 games!!

[@chidace2812]

I enjoyed the last 2 seasons but I’m literally back to how I felt about Arsenal when Mikel 1st took over. I have confirmed that this club are not going anywhere and we will face another situation where the club has to be falling apart for them to sack Arteta. I’m done with the manager regardless of how our form turns around. I have seen too many of these horrible patches. We will never win with this manager and owners

[@kofikarmelo9089]

Jordan kills me man.. we used to go to Inter Milan and win 5-1 but we're begging for a 0-0 draw now? lol. Arteta's away record in europe is horrendous

[@mosesolweny9062]

Inter beat us 3-0 at Highbury that same season. Our European record is horrendous full stop.

[@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123]

Yeah all nice winning 5-1 but losing 3-0 at home just shows in Europe arsenal are just mediocre

[@ktom5262]

LOL, when was that? 20 years ago. Different time, different Arsenal team with better players and a better manager.

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

You mean we once beat them 5-1

[@robhans5]

@@ktom5262 And still completly dogshit team in Europe. Even Henry used Arsenal as a stepping stone and went to Barca.

[@kofikarmelo9089]

our attacking wingers don't score goals or assist goals.. we praise them for their work rate and defensive contributions

[@JB11-p6v]

Saka doesn't score or assist? Pass the spliff on mate, you've had enough

[@karmaascendant3936]

@@JB11-p6vapart from Saka all the other options have about 6 goals between them all season

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Saka does

[@rickyproctor6562]

Its not We. Just James and Lee.

[@imperativeviews146]

Lee’s still backing Martinelli, but come on-Saka’s been carrying us, even if he wasn’t great against Inter. What has Martinelli actually done to deserve a starting spot? When a player’s been off for over a season, you’ve got to set the favorites aside and be real about it.

[@robhans5]

Martineli is just a player. Saka is called world class when he has over 20 games a season when he drop complete stinkers. This fanbase needs to wake up and see he is not elite player.

[@Slim2Flo]

@@robhans5the stats say otherwise contrary to what youve said, he was injured last season and played anyway and was still by far our best attacker despite losing his pace and long range shots. Our only threat is saka which is why havertz and martinelli get 1v1s and saka gets 1v2s or 1v3s. If we had better creative players and stopped playing defensive midfielders in the 8 role, and we had better strikers beside jesus or havertz and better LW than trossard or martinelli we woulf be doing much better, our tactics have still grown stale. It worked two seasons ago but managers have figured it out so now we are cross FC with our 5’9 attackers against 6’4 CBs. Kai is tall but weak so gets out strengthed.

[@josepholusanya4956]

Jordan is right martineli is a scrub he doesn’t do anything for our attack we need to upgrade on him

[@1972dsrai]

Lfc fan. I thought he was decent and put in some good balls. You just don’t have anyone to put them away.

[@rickyproctor6562]

@@1972dsrai Why is he putting in balls when there is no one in the box? 100s of times when there are players in the box he goes backwards. That's why he's earned 'headless chicken'

[@mercibienlamif]

The atmosphere in the stadium was f***ing amazing yesterday, what a crowd they have

[@fayaz.privvv1746]

No way lee stormed off the pod🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@1972dsrai]

Probably had the kettle on

[@narcissekangila4380]

I don’t understand why Lee seems to take everything so personally. If you’ve been poor for 18 months and have gotten a pass on it for a whole year, you must start getting your share of criticism

[@kindainterestingoldman]

Martinelli reminds me of Theo Walcotts form

[@Admiral_Kekdog]

Walcott is was a way better than Martinelli ever will be

[@kevinfranks8439]

At a similar age, Theo was ripping Milan and the like...

[@ralzay2009]

Theo Walcott was a way better player than Martenelli. Not even close

[@Admiral_Kekdog]

@@kevinfranks8439this Theo was younger than Martinelli now. Martinelli is 23

[@phatstar6344]

I'd rather have Walcott

[@IbbyB.]

Proper 20/21 attack vibes there, cross and inshallah

[@captain_mayo]

I have a question for Turkish. Would you keep your beard if you were a prem striker with the current offside rules?

[@TurkishLDN]

Yes.

[@miltonhatzidakis3351]

@@TurkishLDN😂😂😂

[@JungleboydDazz]

Well mbueno's beard is too far off Turkish's beard 😂

[@bentheadphones]

I would love to see a show with Lee and Jordan debating Arsenal topics😂😂 Normally I would agree with Lee but Jordan is right. When Martinelli receives the ball, if it's not a through ball behind the defense with space for him to run into, then I'm not excited. When he receives it on the wing with smaller spaces in between the defense, I know he is going to try to use his speed to beat the defender down the line or pass it back. When Saka receives it on the right wing, I'm excited to see what he's going to do. We need someone like that on the left hand side.

[@qasimcheema8953]

Lee that was not on attacking Jordan for his martinellis opinion Teams double up on Saka because they're comfortable that martinelli will not do anything!

[@robhans5]

And Saka can do fuck all about it. Salah gets double up, and he scores. Saka is not elite players.

[@qasimcheema8953]

@robhans5 obviously Salah is better that's why

[@qasimcheema8953]

@robhans5 obviously Salah is better that's why

[@Arsenal_bruh]

Sitting here waiting for james to give me some Netflix recommendations, lee to give me tactical insight and jordan to start being ' really honest'.

[@doris_en]

Underrated comment 😂😂

[@WOLZY_1]

YOU LOT SEEM TO FORGET, SYSTEMS AND STYLES SOONER OR LATER GET FOUND OUT AND LEGO-EAD HAS BEEN SUZED OUT... TIME TO CHANGE IT UP... IF HE KNOWS HOW?

[@KWTA]

21:37 Lee, Jordan and James glitched looking into the abyss 🤣

[@EgyptianGooner]

😂😂😂😂

[@allisterklein9723]

The chickens are coming home to roost, Havertz the striker that we needed to show “Love”, Useless, Martinelli doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result But guess what The manager still playing Trossard as a creative mid expecting a different results.

[@TheTrueTeknician]

The positive I take out of that game is that we remain a difficult team to beat. I know that’s not what people want to hear in this tough period but I still trust the boys and our manager to turn it around ! COYG !!

[@stephenblack9843]

Difficult to beat! We’ve lost two games in a row and leaking goals every game

[@Darren_Martin]

You must be a complete moron! We were easily beaten by three teams WE should have beaten

[@Airyed]

You don't get battered or have players losing heads like City did against Lisbon but you aren't difficult to beat

[@AchtungBaby77]

Woohoo, Arsenal wins the "We're Difficult To Beat" trophy this season. They can put it alongside the "We Pushed City To The Last Day" trophy from last season 👏

[@TheTrueTeknician]

James summed it up perfectly for me in his opener !! The final third is where we need to be better

[@JosephAlAliPhotographer]

It’s clear to see something is wrong at Arsenal, and Arteta is to blame, his squad selection has been abysmal this season.

[@ArseianLee]

Before this season there are not many new generation manager so people praise Arteta over basically Nothing. This season with Slot, Amorim, Maresca Or even Brighton's coach, the landscao surrounding Arteta already changed. If He did not realize this, He will be gone soon

[@Arty2senis]

PR with Odegaard actually worked out. It put smile on my face, even I didnt expect to win at San Siro.

[@damianscott5933]

Mr Judges, In sorry but Martinelli has stank up the pitch all season, his level is far below the standard needed to win with this team, whether you like it or not, he just isn’t.

[@mohammedkuranga3469]

Jordan has the best comments on days he actually come with a comment.

[@emadito989]

We are the huffers and puffers

[@WarrenFelix]

Well Jordan for spitting some truth!!💯🫡

[@MoGr10xz7]

James, brother i like you and your opinions, but martinelli is a winger, aka an attacker. An attacker’s job is to create and score goals. So yea , G. Martinelli is not doing enough going forward. He is the hardest working man, yes but it is NOT enough, bro. Thanks for the show lads.

[@qasimcheema8953]

James and lee when turkish was on a rant regarding ambition, shouldve said were in quarters of carabao cup The levels that wouldve taken turkish to 😂

[@bm0349]

There's a lack of confidence in the team currently, Arteta needs to go back to basics go for the clean sheets without sacrificing the attack. He needs to try something different, for example give sterling or Jesus a run of games

[@redwolfkun]

My personal concern is that many players don’t seem to be developing. Martinelli is still the same player he was when he came in. Trossard seems out of place in most games. It feels like we are playing too systematically rather than to the strengths of our team. If Odegaard is out then rather than trying to get someone to play his role, why not try something that enables the rest of the team.

[@eqqu.-]

Saka and saliba are serious footballers and i really belive if arsenal dont start acting seriously in the market and winning trophies they will be looking for a new team come summer, i cant blame them they deserve a serious club and to win trophies because they are world class

[@eqqu.-]

Mikel is a liar when he said the summer window was good. Everybody knew we need a striker and quality backups instead they just take the piss and bring in players who are taking us backwards when we are supposed to catch up to city. Now other teams are progressing and it seems we are regressing back to the dark ages of wengers latter years

[@robhans5]

Saka world class when he averaging 20 dogshit games a season. He doesn't start for City, Liverpool, Barca, Real, Bayern. Saliba world class, laughable. World class players do not play for Arsenal.

[@XxmadmanXx101]

@@robhans5as a Liverpool fan I’d definitely take saka I’m sure Real Madrid would take him as well

[@BP-bs2ny]

This is on Arteta and Edu. They had the entire summer to strengthen the squad and clearly we’ve weakened it. We’ve left our attack unimproved and our midfield options are depleted. If they don’t bring in a winger or striker in January, we’re done. Too many weeks of complacency and we’re slipping further down the table. It’s terrible to watch. Arteta could stop being stubborn and give Nwaneri the chance since he decided he should stay and Viera go on loan but oh no, we must persist with Trossard who’s overwhelmed in midfield.

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Nonsense. Engage brain first

[@robhans5]

No elite strikers or wingers would choose Arsenal, they are better teams that have European heretige. Look at our team. Only rejects from better clubs, becasue actually good player do not give a fuck about some mid club from London. Wake up.

[@Createdby.33]

Jordan and Lee's reaction when James said "I was in awe of his work rate " LOOOOOOOOl 15:09

[@gunnertargaryen9804]

It's the raw passion and different views is what makes this the best Arsenal podcast by far! And even during the rough patches in our season we can still laugh and smile throughout the pod, thank you all!

[@albertdugary]

Bla bla bla

[@Uniqueaniq]

My theory is that, it's a repeat of the same policy between the owners and the manager - which is " get us top 4 each season, and your job as manager is safe ". What makes arsenal fans believe that, the owners have changed their mindset & objective - which is solely money ! Very worrying for arsenal supporters. I hope I'm wrong, but I do fear.

[@Slim2Flo]

All you need to do is look at how we finished 2nd twice then proceeded to sell and make a profit in the next window without truly strengthening the team to realise you are correct.

[@kevinmarques1421]

Lee is clutching, we did not play well. We huff and puffed but had no real creativity.

[@kaitrott6889]

Lee spent the entire podcast arguing the exact same statement you have done. "WE did not play well." "WE had no real creativity." WE represents the entire team. WE is not Gabriel Martinelli. That was the point Lee made the entire time. That is not clutching if you believe what you have said.

[@kevinmarques1421]

@ hmmm, martinelli has been poor pretty much all season. And if you listen he did mention in his post match interview that we played well and played well all second half watch it back and you’ll see. We didn’t play well all game. No real creativity

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Arteta said arsenal played well and he was proud of them. Are you saying he is a liar?

[@kevinmarques1421]

@ yes he is, he usually lies

[@lukeandrews1037]

I’m with Jordan on the martinelli debate. His performances can be summed up in four words every game: works hard, lacks quality. If Arsenal are serious they will replace him at the next available opportunity

[@DavidKeith-f9b]

If I was Ethan I would put in for a transfer as he looks at Trossard and wonders WHY. Ethan comes on and gives us quality.

[@dennismuriuki4202]

Lee i love how you can be emotional but then realize you need to get to reality and there you put things into perspective and become the best speaker

[@CRed-187]

In-game management has been poor so far.. If something is not working, why not take riskt if we're gonna lose anyway. And why bring Nwaneri again in for game that we are losing...give the kid a fair chance

[@nicholasvarvaris2953]

I’ve never seen lee lose it like that on a pod and I loved it

[@chrisfraser5088]

45 high crosses against an Italian side playing a back 5 system. 😂 Absolute madness. Mikel needs to go back to how he had us playing in the first half of the 22-23 season. We are so slow in transition now. And all this talk of “work rate”. It needs to stop. Mikel needs to let the handbrake off and let his attackers actually attack. We will never win a title playing like this and our fan base has to stop making excuses. All we’re doing is driving our players into the ground in the name of defensive “work rate”. Shocking.

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

To play like that again he would have to use Jesus instead of Havertz, Zinchenko instead of Timber & somehow get to use Merino in a similar way to Granite Xhaka but the fanbase don't want any of those players near the starting 11 because frankly, they know better.......

[@chrisfraser5088]

@@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 that’s simply not true. We don’t need Jesus. Havertz is actually at his best when you give him a free role as a final third link player in quick transition. (Go back and watch how he played for Leverkusen.) One the issues we currently have is that we’re sitting back a lot more and moving so slow in transition. Havertz is practically useless in that kind of system. Funny thing is, he’d actually fit better into the 22-23 season system as opposed to last season or this season. And why do you think we need Zinny on the pitch simply to play quicker in transition? It’s not a difficult concept. Keep your front three slightly higher up the pitch and get the ball to one of them as quickly as you can, every opportunity you have. Lots of teams do it. It’s time to go for it.

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

@@chrisfraser5088 I couldn't care less about what this tapped fanbase think (because it sounds like they've got in your head too), Jesus was our front man in 22/23 & we were a much better attacking team back then. FACTS. His link up play with the 2 wingers was a lot better than Havertz not to mention quicker. The Leverkusen Havertz has been gone for years now, just ask the Chelsea fans! Making excuses, going back on your word & talking a load of "what ifs"to protect one of your favourites is only making us worse. Havertz & his lack of mobility is the reason we're so bad in transition now. He offers us more in the air & IF he finds space he can maybe score a tap-in. Outside of this he is useless & wouldn't fit in that 22/23 team imo but that's all conjecture, one thing that me & you both agree on is our attack was better in 22/23 with Jesus up front.... As for Zinchenko, as much as the fanbase detest him (I couldn't care less what they think), he is better going forward than Timber as much as I love Timber defensively. He has a much better through ball than anything in Timber's locker which played a major part in our approach play but once again the fans will overlook this because he don't win any silly popularity contests smh. This fanbase deserve everything they're getting for their short memories & lack of gratitude.

[@chrisfraser5088]

@@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630 I think you misunderstood me. I agree that we were better with Jesus as opposed to Havertz. (I would never have signed Havertz, paying 65 mil for a player whose been out of form for three years is a sackable offence imo) And I also agree that Zinny is better than Timber going forward. My overall point is that, the problem is the system (and tactics) as much as it is recruitment. Mikel’s tactics are absolutely whack. We’ve gone from trying to control possession, while transitioning quickly (22-23), to trying to control all phases of the game (23-24), to this season…we basically sit back, invite pressure and defend. It doesn’t matter who we have up top or at LB if the tactics are poor. Sorry if I didn’t explain that well enough. I think we’re more or less saying the same thing just in a different way?

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

@@chrisfraser5088 I hear you so I guess the common denominator is Arteta....

[@Adzk.7]

It’s really frustrating to see the last proper striker we have bought is aubameyang which was back in 2018 that arsne wenger bought

[@wakeup4044]

i did not hear anyone mention you were playing intas second team,they rested there best 6 players for the napoli game.

[@jennytaylor8682]

Martinelli needs to watch some old Gareth Bale goals when he used to cut across the edge of the box and then just hoof it in the goal. Looked like he tried it in the last game, feel like if he could do more of that he would be a weapon.

[@jamescarter5041]

Captain Scarlet replaced Aubameyang with Nketiah then he sold Nketiah; make it make sense! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Nonsense

[@anthonysibanda7874]

Aubameyang was treated disgustingly by arteta looking back on it arteta was in the wrong

[@jamescarter5041]

@@SimonFlynn-un1ur Which part is nonsense?

[@Mayonova]

Are you guys positioned correctly. Something feels weird

[@AlienOmertaTV]

36:05

[@Perthaussiegooner]

For me, I have seen no pressing across the whole team, from pushing back 4 up, to midfield pressing and front 3 pressing, why ?, because Odegard starts and leads the press .

[@Televator4164]

And with Odegaard they can play a higher line

[@kindainterestingoldman]

Congrats to the ref for passing his assesment to become a ref in the prem league

[@sunepba]

Stop blaming the refree and arsenal should 1st try to score a goal from open play

[@abdo4khalil1001]

Stop with the excuses you are tarnishing this fanbase with your shameless delusions. Arteta out is the solution

[@robbiekop7]

That was a handball ✋a bit unlucky but the correct decision

[@1972dsrai]

Lfc fan. I do think Arsenal fans are a tad delusional thinking they should be winning the title because you came close last two years. Other teams aren’t sitting still and are just going to roll over. Liverpool and City both have teams that have won the big trophies with bigger and stronger squads. You also need to remember where you were when he took over. You were a joke club, nowhere near challenging and you’ve come a long way under him. He spent a lot of money, but he’s had to completely rebuild the team and its still a WIP. Not saying you can’t be critical, but some saying he should go are crazy in my opinion.

[@Ethiomenzumaneshida]

The problem is we had no better option to bench havert....

[@Ozziiiii1011]

I really think that martinelli doesnt get the same support like saka does on the flank, When Calafiori was playing martinelli was getting better or am i wrong?

[@ThomasHeaven-n7t]

No recognised central man on the pod, James top right when he should be bottom left, Lee bottom left when he should be bottom right and Jordan bottom right when he should be top right, what’s Turkish’s new name Arteta, play these boys in their natural positions😂😂 Big love to you guys let’s keep the faith ♥️

[@rickyproctor6562]

Jordan starts doing Logistics work as soon as James starts with his "PERCENTAGE FOOTBALL" waffle again 🤣😂🤣

[@kindainterestingoldman]

CONGRATS TO THE REF FOR PASSING HIS PREM LEAGUE ASSESMENT🎉

[@andrespico5290]

Jordan making sense!

[@monstermunch4956]

Great podcast guys. The frustration is high atm with all of us… that is down to the TRANSFER WINDOW

[@T-V-1.]

James really needs to stop being in 'journalist' mode all the time and just be honest. Its all so disingenuous. He knows full well what Jordan was referring to in the Martinelli criticisms.

[@qasimcheema8953]

Turkish i made the havertz comment just so u read it, u guys rarely read the positive comments. Oh And guler is a baller, just what arsenal need

[@Badleybad]

I played over 16:54-17:05 the most I can’t stop laughing

[@Aaskilz89]

Love the passion shown by each member of this podcast. Always a great watch. Please keep showing your true emotions about a recent performance and ignore the 'negative podcast' comments.

[@emadito989]

Saka had one of the worst games I've ever seen from him and Jordan is scapegoating Martinelli.

[@jgunner94]

He made deliveries which we could’ve scored from. Martinelli made less.

[@yvibes]

What game were you watching. Yikes

[@emadito989]

@@yvibes Bisseck had a masterclass against saka. Forced him to spam crosses headlessly. But ultimately the tactics are to blame.

[@hlonisoulo3033]

@@emadito989they tripled up on saka in the first half saka was beating them a few times

[@oj914]

What happen last night was a lesson of what arteta tried to do against city and Liverpool and that is seeing out a game with a proper defensive performance from a competent manager

[@AHE7o8leh]

Incredibly alarming that this team missing one attacking player, the team becomes prime stoke

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

Not really. Won at spurs drew with city and Liverpool. Wouldn't call that prime stoke

[@junedali7789]

@@SimonFlynn-un1urscraped past Leicester lost to Bournemouth lost to Newcastle lost to inter Milan B team lad . Anyone can turn up for the big games

[@jualinachomoza]

Great point on about Mikel. He comes off too tense a lot of the time.

[@SimonFlynn-un1ur]

He was like that when they were winning every game

[@jualinachomoza]

@@SimonFlynn-un1ur True

[@abdulqoyumelelu7417]

Jordan at 15:15 is killing me

[@koushiksrinivasan5162]

Mikel Arteta needs to stop inverting fullbacks. This guy has had 5 years at Arsenal and not won anything major. Play a fullback who just runs up and down the flank and helps out Martinelli and see how our form improves.

[@Slim2Flo]

You make a good point. I love ben white but he is a CENTRE BACK that just happens to be talented enough that we play him at right back now. I would absolutely kill to have PSG’s fullbacks. Imagine we had mendes and hakimi in this team, some much needed attacking threat. All our fullbacks have no legs and creativity compared to them, we play 4 centre backs.

[@samjall9216]

Take the boys back to Dubai pls Arteta 🥲🥲🥲

[@LanesraVek]

Jordans right, Martinelli floats in hit and hope crosses 95% of the time. Sakas deliveries have real intent and threat He needs to get better Martinelli looks a threat, but its his final ball or shot thats the problem

[@Danwrldyt]

The Lee rage quit was epic, big up guys for the pod as always, let’s beat Chelsea and go on a run!

[@talkpoz]

Jordan spitting facts