Against All Gods: Atheists believe that religious faith is nothing but delusion - part one

[@joeladuma]

I find it strange that depending on where you are born your god is the right one and all others are wrong

[@millicentouma2324]

Ja there is only One True God JESUS CHRIST and No One can Change it.Everybody will give Account to him THE CREATOR.REPENT AND FEAR THE LORD WHO MADE YOU TO SEE ANOTHER DAY

[@crumbum2]

@@millicentouma2324 Thanks for proving the point for the original comment.

[@kenthugge7445]

@@crumbum2 hehe! never understod why you should fear your god! is Jesus christ God? or the son? or human just like the rest of us! we all are Gods children no matter the faith, we all come from the supreme Divine

[@kingshadal3899]

Joel Ragen Only fool's believe in he or she say and follow crowd's blindly...study read ask question's but always remember God isn't the author of confusion

[@crumbum2]

@@kenthugge7445 The time to believe in a 'supreme divine' is when evidence for its existence is presented..........do you have any evidence for this claim?....

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

An African christian is an individual suffering from a type of Stockholm Syndrome. 'When logic and reason begin to feel like an insult, then know you are living a lie.' ~Aggrey 2019

[@truetohim3366]

You're the one suffering from that. Because if you did your research, you'd know most of the Bible is black ESP the old testament. Even without that, you should atleast know from biology that Adam was black. We don't follow Christianity blindly. So, before you go naming people, sit down and do your research.

[@lupdomnitor6192]

Africans are Christian because of colonization. IF white ppl didn't take over Africa they'd most likely be Muslim.

[@Tunawesmake]

@@lupdomnitor6192 partly true, partly not. First missionaries came before colonialism, in Kenya for instance. Johan Krapf and Rebman for instance came in 1840s a few years before colonialists. Just like other aspects of culture, religion can spread without colonialism.

[@flickers9181]

@@lupdomnitor6192 not necessarily Islams, maybe we would have something else. Christianity was way back before Islam

[@truetohim3366]

Before anything, before any religion, before tradition. We, believed in God. Adam, all through down to Noah were men of dark skin who lived here in Africa and as scientists call it, the cradle of mankind. Don't fool yourselves that Christianity came with the white man, it was here all along. All the white man did was corrupt it.

[@_cherryoat]

Am actually a kenyan and a proud atheist 🖤🖤🖤🖤 our beliefs should also be counted and not be called evil or devil worshippers I support you my friends🥰🥰continue fighting for our rights I'll join you in future

[@_cherryoat]

This guy is saying a secular life am like wtf is wrong with this guy is he crazy or sth

[@Yayatv]

Atheists STAND UP!

[@colleyhillary5032]

hear,hear

[@thereaper830]

we d prefer to sit down. Thankyou

[@Tush254_]

here

[@atomisedman6235]

Reading the Bible made me atheist. That was the "traumatic" event.

[@johnielcozaka6066]

Random Shenaniggans you love youtube bro

[@farhanhappy5895]

If you were to read the holy Qur'an you would have understood the real life of this world.

[@Msapere]

@@farhanhappy5895 😂😂 The Quran and Bible are related as their dogmas are both based on the Abrahamic origin so I doubt anything would have changed.

[@kayrulrudyne1998]

Random she...The bible was written by Paul and others writers. None in the verse comes from jesus. They're no gospel of jesus. None of the writers met jesus. The bible was written between 35-110 years after the death of jesus.

[@fatmahassan8153]

@@johnielcozaka6066 true

[@yoonisguleed8645]

Religion began when fool met a con man.

[@kingshadal3899]

Yoonis Guleed .....kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZobVcpRvg7dpsKM

[@colleyhillary5032]

What a day it was!

[@VJMASTERMIND]

No one was born Christian or Muslim or Atheist, We chose... Our parents taught us so. Or from our Environment.

[@evansthiongo5785]

You sound like a fool

[@kakaace4579]

@@evansthiongo5785 you are a fool

[@VJMASTERMIND]

evans thiongo From Your judgement, I Sound like one. But ain't one. Now continue judging

[@hotep7942]

No we didn't choose,did our parents present all the religions to us for us to pick the one we desired?the answer is NO, we were assigned our parents religion.fact, if you were born in saudia,high chances are that you would be a muslim

[@evansthiongo5785]

@@hotep7942 Add the volume my guy

[@davidkariu]

How the heck is that guy a professional psychologist?

[@nevillekipruto9504]

I think ktn cherry picked the guy

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Good question

[@sk8city476]

You are right! Sigmund Freud, the father of psycolgy, used to say that religion is a collective psycosis

[@lupdomnitor6192]

Why does this look like it was filmed in 2002?

[@joshuawango]

Meen

[@trillanthropistgawd8488]

right

[@bostongalden1171]

🤣😂

[@Msapere]

😂 144P 😂

[@kobil316SH]

Because it's Africa

[@ramaken254]

I left religion one year ago. Best decision in my life. I am grateful for the good things Christianity taught me but it no longer works for me.

[@Kristina-fb4jq]

Rama Ken same

[@MrBrian5597]

do not confuse God and religion when you learn to separate the two you will understand yourself more... Religion maybe fucked up but God is surely there as a supreme being

[@kevinkinuthia3785]

So sad 😢..I feel sorry for you..

[@MaryJosephrobi]

Me too

[@chatter_bones1762]

@@MrBrian5597 hmm yes thank you for saying that it made me think and realize even more that they are different (not sarcastic)

[@wafulamasikaAbbottjesselove]

THIS WOULDN'T MAKE NEWS IN CHINA AND JAPAN.

[@donivan3184]

Even the European countries that brought the modern religion itself are generally atheistic and here we are defending it ni kama ni sisi tuliianza.

[@donivan3184]

@Its . xdonnie it's a long way ahead... but we try to educate as many people as are willing. Thing is, most people aren't even open to discussion when it comes to religion. Are you in the AIK groups?

[@colleyhillary5032]

@@donivan3184 We are typical johnny come lately....ni trauma ndiyo tuko nayo.

[@ZMSportsnShorts]

Neither of those countries are religious.

[@mauriceshilabula4574]

As i always say. There are billions of pple in the world believing in different spiritual or non spiritual beings and still living a successful peaceful and happy life. Never be soo sure you are better than anyone.

[@Wilson-dl1uv]

That counselling psychologist sounds like a first year drop out. he should show us his papers

[@peterpower5963]

i thought so too

[@darkseid6412]

THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE HE BOUGHT ALL HIS TEST ANSWERS, CARRIED CHEAT SHEETS TO THE EXAM-ROOMS AND STILL GOT PASS!!!HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[@grahammarube5299]

I wonder why the least religious countries such as Norway, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Japan, Germany, France have everything working out for them in terms of walfare and general societal wellness and the most religious countries in Africa and Asia are in full civil strive, conflict, hunger and the disease.

[@technybit5566]

Majority of us Atheist are law abiding citizens, we live we love and are just normal people, not at war with anyone and respect all religions and there beliefs and are very open minded. Majority of atheists just ask for one thing, Don't push religion on us, don't force us to act or believe in practices that we don't subscribe to.

[@emilyabonyo8615]

Remember the life you have, ability to talk freely is from God whom ye deny But because his mercies are forever abundant, he's still calling you today...

[@technybit5566]

I've always wondered why the more religious a country is, the poorer it is. Scandinavian Countries are the least religious people but very rich, Africa and South America very religious but very poor

[@sunnisultan1629]

i just came down to have a look at the comment section war zone

[@matthewlewis7725]

🤣🤣🤣that makes us two

[@mwansamapulanga6122]

Thanos The FARMER makes four lolest

[@oneworld4755]

Religion, the most dangerous tragedy ever to enslave mankind. Thankfully, the awakening is finally with us.

[@simaoluis9443]

I’m gland to see my fellow sane Kenyans. Cheers from Mozambique

[@diablo75taurus4]

White god is the worst mistake to happen to Africa

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@diablo75taurus4 The issue with atheists is not their rejection of the existence of a white God, but the rejection of the existence of a higher being. Incidentally, the so called white God (ie God for whites) is not white at all. The biblical God is Jewish rather than white and true Jews have never been and are not white.

[@3rdiWitness]

@@diablo75taurus4 so true! though it was not a mistake but an accomplished agenda of confusing (check 'religare' etymology) and disenchanting the African Mind...

[@chekaburetv2352]

U r not gland.u r glad hahahaha

[@stevekisira6474]

@@chekaburetv2352 at least he tried. They speak Portuguese in Mozambique

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Knock knock... Who is there? It's me, Jesus, let me in... Why? So I can save you. From what? What I will do to you if you don't let me in.

[@feizcodm9910]

What will he do😱??

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

@@feizcodm9910 send you to hell🔥🔥

[@feizcodm9910]

What's hell explain please as a religious Christian

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

@@feizcodm9910 I am not. Read the sarcasm.

[@wambuirk]

Hey if God made Jesus sin so he could die on your behalf so you wouldn't have to end up in hell.... What makes you think you'll get away with it. Having refused that substitute

[@wmkamuyu6331]

Dear KTN, what is the purpose of the clip showing police chasing down guys at 5:44 ? You make it look like the govenrment chased down Atheists at one time. That is not accurate and it is very poor journalism from your part, and you should feel bad.

[@MJ-ye7dd]

hahaha last sentence though,,,they should feel bad

[@cb8496]

Lol, they better feel bad because you're very hurt.

[@rosemarymukami6210]

I agree poor poor journalism.

[@nimonimo7657]

U broke my ribs

[@scorpionmelo943]

hahaha, i tried to keep this to myself but someone noticed.

[@TyrellMnacada]

Proud 19 year old atheist with a Catholic father and Anglican Mother.....bite me

[@TyrellMnacada]

@n c I was born without religon, only peace just like you

[@pl4423]

This Osoro guy cannot be a trained psychologist from a reputable University.....to called Atheism a pyschological problem is a travesty to humanity🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@Arslan28933]

I'm not an atheist but I say that religious freedom is enshrined in the constitution. If someone wants to be an atheist, it's their right and they should not face any persecution. At the same time, the Kenyan Atheists should not force their ideology down people's throats.Don't try to get religious studies banned as that will tarnish you're reputation.

[@TheTororist]

I used to be militant and evangelical in my atheism and its promotion. But you get such dirty looks and judgmental eyes. These days I just mind my business and respect your beliefs, as long as you respect my lack of belief. I'm glad Africans are slowly waking

[@joventmushwaimi3681]

Yeah at least now we are starting

[@writersam3507]

Personally, I do not believe in a supreme being, but I also don't fight those who hold a different opinion. We are all one race after all-human race-and that's what is important.

[@naturalist9517]

yeah ur right humanity comes first the rest is bullshit

[@kryptokiki2182]

Me and you buddy

[@geraangwai5650]

you just quoted Acts 17

[@Ndangariyakaratina]

What we miss is conflating religion with our other ways of life like politics. Keep your religion to yourself. I will stay away with my ungodly like persona. Christianity and all manner of religion are responsible for half the atrocities this world has seen. Religion was made to be an opium of the masses. Prove me otherwise.

[@writersam3507]

There are better ways to bring someone to the light rather than despising them. We should not focus on what separates us. "Humanity" surpasses our personal beliefs.

[@Mumbi.G]

I agree; religious education in Kenya needs to be revised from it's current focus of indoctrination to either scrapping the subject altogether or focusing on the role religion in world history - both good & bad,this is more informative & honest education

[@davemwangi05]

wewe atheist tutakuchoma!

[@Mumbi.G]

It's said 'Ignorance is bliss'

[@davemwangi05]

@@Mumbi.G Who sent you to give this rebellion message? The antiChrist? Ongea ukweli

[@davemwangi05]

@@Mumbi.G I was just kidding, I don't believe in this shit about Christ saving nobody. How do you deal with the ridicule and hate as an atheist in the midst of such a strong Christianity base? I mean like where you live. Hiding your true opinion or?

[@jeremygachemi6919]

Kenyan politicians and religious leaders are far worse than this atheists kanisa Siku hizi ni kukula pesa, just last week a bishop charged for defiling 12 yr old girl,and this bishops/pastors are sick in one way or another,let others condemn atheists since kenyan religious leaders are far worse hiding behind God

[@MercyRop56]

Religion is a scam. Those who believe in it cannot justify why they do. Believe in logic, science and common sense.

[@georgeodhiambo598]

I dont follow your line of thought. Are you categorizing politicians as atheists or theists?

[@kaizersolze]

I love the logic of using the "holy book" to prove the "holy book" is true.

[@colleyhillary5032]

Only they see the easy,comfy logic in that!!

[@cikunjuguna1948]

I’m glad the awakening is here no body can STOP the consciousness logic Movement!!!De -colonizing the mindset and Discernment is the key to make Africa great again !

[@crumbum2]

Doubtful that Africa can ever be great again, it is too fractured and lawless.

[@cikunjuguna1948]

crumbum2 Africa is waking up from all the shackles it’s been through just give it time it’s the next frontier!!so many great things happening!!

[@omindedaltone438]

crumbum2 there are different levels of consciousness. People wake up at different times. Some 'wake' up at 3am some wake up 8 am and others are still sleeping right now hahaa. My point is, we as Africans should give it time.

[@Cocoa_nutz]

I agree, there is no God, at least not that God, not really, because the Christian God, contrary to his own commandments, is fashioned in the graven image of a pertanal beneficent authoritarian Tyrant, and It's easy to fall into the religious trap. It's there prepared, institutionalized in the synagogues, Protestant churches, catholics, in schools. We are born into a Christian family, we grow in a Christian society that segregates and demonizes people who do not share in its own opinions. You see It's not really a personal choice, it's a choice made for you and maintained through fear. But if you are intelligent, and you understand that you are intelligent, then YOU cannot be the result of a mechanical and meaningless universe! YOU as an apature through which the universe observes itself cannot be a mere fluke. Teleos proposes in its approach to the existence of god that: the complexity and accuracy of physical reality , cannot be of mere chance but by intelligent design. However you must be very careful, because you might make an unwarranted jump: the jump to a conclusion that the consciousness behind the design, is the biblical God, be very careful, because if God exists, SHE must be BLACK. Of course space is black, in death it is black, before the universe, in the abyss of nothingness, it was black and it is from this deep unfathomable darkness that the universe and life emerge to display its creative and destructive aspects because it's is from most things destroyed that new ones come forth. I'd say, to conclude, my years search for god, that you are God and God is you, the I am, US! God(not yahweh or Allah) is everything that is, evidenced by the design in nature and the universe . Inspired by Allan watts, promoting ATHEISM IN THE NAME OF GOD.

[@cikunjuguna1948]

@@Cocoa_nutz absolutely I agree with you 💯💯we are spiritual beings

[@that_bloke_kiri]

i love how a member of the catholic church says that atheists have done worse sins.

[@antoooa8664]

dennis kirimi 🤣🤣

[@sk8city476]

and they deny the fact that the countries were atheist are a majority the living standard are the better and the human rights are more respected.

[@cleophaskubasu]

Good question. What about our traditional religions ?

[@truetohim3366]

Your traditional religions came after you(as in we, the black people throwing out hand at God) We believed in God before the gospel was brought to us, and before our traditions. Look at the Bible, the old testament, is mostly based in Africa. The garden of Eden is right here in Africa. Don't believe what the white man teaches

[@atomisedman6235]

@@truetohim3366 There is no Garden of Eden. The myth is based on the fertile crescent in Mesopotamia, where the Jews who wrote the books in the Bible came from. Wacha kujichocha na ma myths na fables.

[@joventmushwaimi3681]

They don't care they taught that our ancestors where devils worshippers so they are in hell we don't have even to remember them because they are now ghosts but guess what they dead ancestors are Saints and u have to travel to Israel and Mecca to pray at their cemetery, teh teh

[@nevillekipruto9504]

There is a difference between spirituality and religion

[@cleophaskubasu]

God of war is a demon in Christian understanding God of fertility is an angel in Christian understanding They stole our concepts and developed the devil angel Satan God religion to manipulate us. They don't understand their own Bible and their pastors don't know shit other than the crap they were taught to regurgitate in Bible schools

[@morasimba290]

Harrison is one of the few intelligent black man

[@christinegakure882]

he can not even offer his six kids with different mothers the basic of a two parent home, what good is his intelligence?

[@peterondara9333]

Intelligence resulting to stupidity

[@maxmudxareed1345]

That is quite racist.

[@maxmudxareed1345]

@@memeverse9000 atheism is false

[@memeverse9000]

@@maxmudxareed1345 aTHeIsM iS fAlSE, anD mY iMMAgiNArY fRiENd iS rEaL gerrarahia

[@Amazonindeed]

Questioning religion is taking Wanjiru's lifeline away. She won't go down easy

[@valentinesgiftshop799]

The issue I have with atheist is that they make fun of people's beliefs.. On the other hand, organised religion is the source of most of the troubles this world faces

[@lydiavera]

I identify as Christians but organised religion is just as bad. Heard the way the pastor talked about the atheists. I mean we live in a liberal society why not allow everyone to worship whatever they want

[@patriciaa4451]

Proud patriotic Kenyan atheist over here!

[@mistletoe3343]

Same here

[@joembuchi3146]

God exists.. its religion that is manmade.

[@issaadam867]

Joe Mbuchi pwaaahaaahaa

[@lugaritzbrown2250]

Exactly both atheists and religious people are deluded.

[@michaelkyalo7944]

True

[@abu_bakr7518]

If you believe there's a God,don't you think he'd send a multitude of people to their own people and civilizations speaking their own tongue and accent,teaching them about how to deal with this confusion of life and how we should deal with each other and His creation,I'm just asking.

[@joembuchi3146]

@@abu_bakr7518 Religion is fundamental in promoting ethics and peace in any cultural setting. Im sure in the pre-colonial period, Africans had a supreme being. Human culture and civilization can never survive without religion. The constitution itself mimics the holy book. You need to understand that human culture have curses, taboos and punishments to limit the wrong extremes that the human race is capable of doing. culture also promotes good behavior. Politics and leadership could have never been possible without a social structure, All that couldnt be possible if there was no religion. Therefore, we need to understand the value of religion in our lives, but its not necessary to be extreme fanatics of it.. in my opinion of course.

[@malibolosedlaminithambo6249]

Am Christian but religion is pulling africa down

[@johnkabucho6850]

It's the FEAR of being SKEPTICAL that makes us CLEVER FOOLS

[@valentinesgiftshop799]

Psalms 14:1.. Some of the most charitable people in the world are athiest

[@mzilikazi96]

That “Psychologist” needs to have his license questioned. The amount of bias & personal projection is insane.

[@mistletoe3343]

Exactly

[@kenyanadventureman2988]

Apart from reading the bible, do pastors/priests read any other book? If a man argues against the bible, why do priests/pastors use the same book to oppose the atheists' arguments? Do they have any other evidence? Secondly, we only knew of the bible when the whites came in 1800s; before we accepted it, did we question about its validity? Do you want to say our great grandfathers who died and were not aware of it, were fools? What if we are reading and believing in the wrong thing? Africans amaze me. Wewe saa hizi mtu akuletee kitu akwambie this thing will solve these problems, will you just accept it without questioning? Same to the bible and christianity, as well as Islam, why do we believe in these things and we did not have them in the past? These are the reasons we are consumers, and we will not create anything. We believe we are weak and incapable.

[@davemwangi05]

God commanded in Numbers 31:17-18 for the Israelites to: “Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” You can bet your bottom dollar no pastor would ever preach this verse from the pulpit to his congregation because he knows that, God’s word or not, the parents in his congregation who have “female children” would tar and feather him before running him out of town on a rail if he got within 20 books of this verse.

[@emilyabonyo8615]

You sound like the rich young man who knew what he was to do but unfortunately didn't And you are an Adventist who should be showing the world the light.... Do you think if your grand father or mother don't study the bible the rest of the grandfathers also din't? Our God is a just God, he will judge everyone by the light which he has received. And the devil is also canning, we have the bibles and he can't let us study it..... I wish you would think again on your point

[@kenyanadventureman2988]

Why do you guys still use the Bible to present your arguments? Why don't you use any other evidence? You guys are limited. Open up your minds! We did not have the bible in our societies.

[@davemwangi05]

@@kenyanadventureman2988 Exactly. I love your point. Hizi zimtu ni ng'ombe kabisaaa. to your point about validity, I've tried a lot to show them how there are various huge contradictions, then try to tell them it can't be God's words while having all those discrepancies. When they see they're cornered that way, they resort to all sorts of funny answers. Or evasion or they quote other verses from the same bible to justify their god, circular thinking. This shit is a cult, and I'm worried.

[@davemwangi05]

@@kenyanadventureman2988 Then to add to your point of our African forefathers btwn 0 to 1800 AD. They knew no Jesus, are they burning in hell? 'Because this came in 1800 and 'Jesus' had already declared that he's the only way to heaven. meaning they'd been locked out. Funny crazy shit.

[@salozubz9551]

Coastal Kenyans embraced Islam after Arabs conquered and enslaved them and told them they were savages in worshipping their ancestors. Central and Western Kenyans embraced Christianity after Europeans conquered and enslaved them and told them they were savages in worshipping their ancestors. So basically you acquired the religion of where you were born from. I'd rather continue worshipping my African ancestors rather than worship a being that has been forced upon me by my master. All in all every religion is man-made and forcing someone to have a religion is a stupid idea

[@AbelWanjala]

Sometimes things need to be said, and fights need to be fought even if they are unpopular. To the closeted atheists, you are not alone, and you deserve equality!

[@naftaljohn4030]

I better live my life fully believing and serving God knowing that he lives. Better die a believer to find that there is no God than die a sinner only to find that there's God. Ask these atheists one question, what do they find disgusting in the bible?? Which biblical teaching do makes them hurt so much????

[@africanliving294]

Lmfao you can tell this reporter is a Christian. We atheists, haven't declared a war on religion. We just want to stop having religion shoved down our throats everywhere we turn. We do live in a secular country after all.

[@africanliving294]

@Mwaniki Mwaniki I agree

[@samuelkamau3418]

What is not in contention is that Harison Mumia has really united the religious groups which often attack each others doctrines. Each of these groups consider those that do not believe in their own doctrine as lost and not believing in the authentic deity. Different christian sects cannot even agree on the true day of worship. Never have muslims and christians been in so much solidarity in a topic. Good job Harison

[@esirkings4191]

If God exists, its because we created him in our brains

[@missrk6623]

White Jesus is a lie....religion killed Africa long time

[@esirkings4191]

True

[@wanjikuboro1132]

If we had a choice, I think we would not create God so no, I think He exists because He exists.

[@esirkings4191]

@@wanjikuboro1132 what do you mean if we had a choice? The uncertainty of not knowing where we came from made us create a god in our brains. Humans hate being uncertain about things.

[@wanjikuboro1132]

@@esirkings4191 Seeing as in human beings brains, God is the cause of all evil in the world yet we owe Him our lives, why would we create Him? Why would we create a being to whom we owe complete allegiance? Were He our servant, it would make more sense to say we created Him but seeing as we are to worship Him, that He expects us to be accountable of our actions, that we are to be Loyal to Him, to serve Him...it makes zero sense to claim that He is our creation

[@freebird2415]

Religion should be a personal thing. Do it at home. It shouldn't be endorsed by the government, especially in a multi-cultural or a multi-religious society because people are gonna disagree. The majority shouldn't be the dictator. The minorities should be protected.

[@letrat7021]

One Day I hope the people of Kenya will wake up and see the reality of the world they live in

[@guybailey6256]

They will eventually

[@veronicakarimi5031]

There is God even without religion. God is not in religion. You can be religionless but God is there.

[@nightwishisthegreatestband6355]

Do you evidence that can prove beyond doubt?

[@Mrtm254]

"There are two types of people in this world, those who bend their knees and say: God your will be done, and the other type that God says to them : Let your will be done!" C.W. Lewis

[@lupdomnitor6192]

Except Im neither of those so......wtf?

[@anilpersaud3808]

I’m surprised they mentioned Hinduism although it has a small following in Kenya. But I think that whatever path you’re born into doesn’t set your path. You have the freedom to choose whether to be Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, or atheist. No path should be condemned.

[@dantechsystems8913]

The narrator is very poor...

[@semrdiaz531]

I believe of existence of a supreme being whom gives life and must be holied but don tell me about christian,muslim,hinduism...etc Africans must find their identity and where we come from.

[@marvinkodia244]

Voodoo

[@joventmushwaimi3681]

100% we are together ma friend Kongole

[@MaryJosephrobi]

Same boat here. I've discovered bantu are Israelites

[@lopantolulu]

This myth that Christianity is un-African must die. Africans in the bible are very prominent e.g. Solomon's lover is described as 'black and beautiful'(Song of Solomon 1:5). African royalty include the extremely powerful queen Kandanke(Acts 8 : 27) who was Queen Mother of Nubia, a powerful nation in what is now Sudan.Pharaoh Tirhakah who came to the aid of Hezekiah (2 Kg 19:9; Is 37:9) has statues that STILL clearly show his African features. Ebed-Melek, a tactical advisor of the king, is identified as a Cushite four times (Jer 38:7, 10, 12; 39 : 16). And many many more examples exist.

[@salmanrj6765]

Remember God does not need us we need him

[@damarisondiek5414]

AMEN

[@TheTororist]

Wonder why he created us in the first place

[@bestronginthelord5413]

@@TheTororist relax and let Hollywood entertain you...you will know why you were created when you die...you won't be asking them stupid questions then

[@TheTororist]

@@bestronginthelord5413 really? my soul is calm now. i thught nobody was looking out for me but thank hollywood!! the jews who run that place must have really big hearts!!

[@bestronginthelord5413]

@@TheTororist what is your point ?

[@Tunawesmake]

Both sides failing to drive their point home. Archbishop assumes aethists aren't genuine, maybe they are (I'm not saying they're right, they could be wrong) but let's not assume they only want publicity. Mumia saying that the afterlife belief has no evidence... Things don't need to have known evidence to be true. Evidence and facts maybe unknown to us, that doesn't make something false, it only makes you unaware of truth...

[@bakarisagna554]

whatever can be asserted without evidence, can as well be dismissed without evidence

[@Tunawesmake]

@@bakarisagna554 nice one. It's down to belief/faith (without evidence many atimes) for us Christians 🤔

[@colleyhillary5032]

Has anyone gone to the afterlife and come back to tell?

[@colleyhillary5032]

@@Tunawesmake You are honest.

[@colleyhillary5032]

@@bakarisagna554 yup

[@joankoome790]

Why don't they open their own schools and not attack the curriculum of schools built and funded by religious institutions....

[@anniendirengombo1070]

Yes

[@SamuelNjoki]

Joan koome churches build schools to hide the fact that they milk billions from desperate Kenyans

[@sammybore944]

Public schools are built and ran by taxpayers' money. I am an Atheist and a taxpayer. Why shouldn't I have a say on public school curriculum?

[@anniendirengombo1070]

@@sammybore944 Resssswaaaa I mean devilish Worathiz....

[@anniendirengombo1070]

Some pipol i can see they are reasoning like real fools Lmao

[@darkseid6412]

THESE "JOURNALISTS" ALWAYS FORGET TO ADD "30 YEARS SERVING THE LORD AND COLLECTING BILLIONS FROM DELUDED KENYANS"

[@cdonamikaze4]

That dude is actually a psychologist? *facepalm*

[@carloseast8102]

Sid Kamadi 😂😂😂 very clueless

[@markwahome5017]

I do not believe what they believe in,but I support their right to believe in what they believe in. Kenya is a secular state. Persecuting them is illegal and morally against what we claim to believe in.

[@candle1955]

I really respect that, i also am ready to protect theists right to believe if it ever gets treathened. In my coyntry.

[@ralitsaritakuli4784]

The mind, governed by the flesh is hostile to GOD, it does not submit to GOD's law, nor neither can it do so. Romans 8:7

[@beproudofyourself.3876]

Sister please join me in letting humanity accept and belive in the existence of Our Almighty GOD,

[@joventmushwaimi3681]

Then who wrote this "Romans" teh teh

[@thehappyskeptic814]

Thats true

[@salozubz9551]

Romans? Wtf. At least quote something from your ancestor

[@Cocoa_nutz]

That verse just goes to show how bad the Christian institution wants you to conform to its dogmas, It's using redicule and fear to induce your obidience. Don't be sheep.

[@abu_bakr7518]

Alot of fables in the Bible and interpolations has failed most Christianity.I don't mean to offend but most Christians after actually reading and internalizing the Bible end up not practising,false prophets that go with it to exploit the ignorant blind followers,atheists or Muslims.

[@gerrylk9]

I'm so proud of Kenyan atheists

[@japhethbarasa769]

I don't have an issue with them believing a flea..or not believing anything..but they should leave us who believe in God alone..they can believe what they believe..and let us believe what we believe..the word God removed from national anthem is subject to majority referendum...if they can convince more kenyans then they can have their day..until then God remains in our anthem..

[@MercyRop56]

At least they shouldn't force neither us nor our kids to study the shit we don't believe in.

[@davemwangi05]

Numbers 31:17-18 “Kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” keep believing, oh boy your'e in a cult

[@davemwangi05]

God is a source of morals. But no, it turns out that he's the source of #pedophilia and # misogyny slavery etc

[@davemwangi05]

when you preach door to door, don't leave such verses else leave others alone too. dont preach.

[@japhethbarasa769]

@@davemwangi05 the issue is ..believe what u believe and let others choose what they believe...so like I said atheist can chose to believe or not believe..I dont care what they believe..but let them not have an issue with what we believe ...I dont harm anyone by believing the God of the bible..

[@erickpkiach4749]

Proud member here

[@_ronaldanthony3361]

likewise

[@kenedykibira4853]

Am an atheist,religion produces very funny material for us to laugh at

[@beproudofyourself.3876]

Well it's not about religion it about a relationship with your creator

[@kenedykibira4853]

There is no creator

[@davemwangi05]

@@beproudofyourself.3876 What do you believe in? and who is the creator?

[@beproudofyourself.3876]

@@davemwangi05 John chapter 1 verse 1 says in the begging was the word and the word was with GOD and the word was GOD , Genesis chapter 1 says in the begging the spirit of GOD was moving over the waters this spirit is the word according to John 6:63 Jesus quotes and says this words that I speak to you are spirit and life, so we see that the word of GOD is a spirit and GOD himself is a spirit read John 4:1-42 Jesus says that GOD is a spirit, Bro my belief has a foundation,, the Bible isn't just a book I would have believed in some other book but why did I cling in the word of God because it's truth. Well maybe you haven't read the Bible I would advice you to kneel down first pray and ask GOD to reveal himself to you and I assure you as you continue reading the word of God, GOD will open your eyes and you will change your views concerning the existence of GOD.

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

@@beproudofyourself.3876 any other verifiable evidence to support your reading?

[@iwrotethis4712]

Somebody tell that archbishop that atheist are not only in Kenya.

[@MrCAHRLIE22]

Atheists having this type of congregational nonsense to put down christians and religions is simply small minded. Being an athiest should be a sign of freedom, freedom from labels and boxes. You should be intelligent enough to understand that people who believe a GOd just dont know any better and love them anyway. Why waste time fighting them. The concept of a God is one of peace, love and order, the very things we need for a good stable society, if they want to believe let them, if they draw happiness from it let them. Thats why i dont like to be labeled as anything, i simply exist as myself, still discovering what this world has to offer but i am above certain things by now, i just see them differently but i love everyone that stands for love.

[@sammwangi7565]

well said.... i myself am an aethist i do believe we have more problems than relegion but it doesn't mean i have to keep on fighting to prove a point,,, but one thing is for sure religion is bringing us back...that's for sure

[@bitebonumbere1426]

I'm a Nigerian living in Nigeria. I wish to some day start this awareness in Nigeria.

[@da_vi_da]

If you do. I’ll support you cuz I’m tired of pretending to be a Christian in Nigeria

[@louisuchihatm2556]

@@da_vi_da Its not everywhere here in Kenya. I will definitely be outcasted by my immediate society. I cant miss church without questions.

[@naftaljohn4030]

These atheists know exactly what they are doing! They'll never quench the fire of the holy spirit.

[@joeyblaq9952]

Yep, at the end of the day you need faith to believe in God, which probably they don't have.

[@sammybore944]

We have faith. We have faith in science and common sense. We don't need imaginary friends.

[@TheTororist]

You also need faith to believe in Allah, Shiva, Buddha, Santa clause, the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy

[@joeyblaq9952]

@@TheTororist exactly, many people go to temples synagogues,churches and mosques and are empty in the faith department, they do it to fit in when in real sense they are no different from the atheists.

[@nashion026]

@@sammybore944 Thats a good start...at least you believe in something and not nothing. And by the way....not all people who believe in science have common sense.

[@stephenlamba6379]

It's easy to react negatively to this post perceiving lack of faith as a wrong or weakness. Maybe you're right. And maybe it's okay. To be sure, I have to ask, what is your understanding of faith?

[@mtemikiongozi7162]

I grew up as a staunch and religious young man, but as of now I am so disgusted by religious practices, I wish sometimes my neo-cortex brain never developed so fast. Between when you in a certain level of enlightenment you tolerate everyone, gays, lesbians, Christians, Muslims, atheists because you know each person is evolving differently and God is universal. God is not tribal and is inside us all.

[@oscarzism]

KTN do upgrade your graphics, even inooro tv looks better than you guys 😂😂😂😂

[@AntoRossi614]

If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then, we are up for grabs for the next charlatan (political or religious) who comes rambling along.

[@jahadibrahimtv7958]

Kenya mashetani ni wengi , wale wa kuunga mkono mapenzi ya jinsia moja na wale wa kusema hakuna Mungu , Kweli shetani he's really challenging

[@eddymeshack]

It’s true ,religion has slow our development

[@Ayubgn]

Why use an entrance to SDA, their logo, and music inside, as well and immediately change the Frame of Reference to ACK cathedral. Plus, Sunday is not just the only day honoured by Christians.

[@hansenbeka8092]

i also noticed,the reporter is biased

[@jannetnyaboke1914]

I noticed that as well!

[@georgeodhiambo598]

@@hansenbeka8092 Quite true, but I think he is more ignorant than biased. He just doesnt know enough.

[@sk8city476]

Atheists are not against all Gods because they cant go against something that do not exist

[@julietmoraa5106]

A lot of atheists, if you ask me, are people who have been seeking God and are in a journey of continuing to seek Him. They will eventually find God.

[@babygurlll968]

Sure

[@lumumba_realtor]

Hahaaa so where was god during slavery

[@olaibon]

No

[@olaibon]

Stop making people fit your box

[@julietmoraa5106]

@@olaibon No one is trying to make anyone fit anywhere.

[@iwrotethis4712]

If there is nothing god cannot do, then let him come to my living room and have tea with me.

[@bestronginthelord5413]

you think God is a puppet ?

[@iwrotethis4712]

@@bestronginthelord5413 I think he can't do anything even existing

[@bestronginthelord5413]

@@iwrotethis4712 he is already doing things...only you can't see because you have cast him out of your heart....you think we as believers are crazy when we say He exists... wait for a while and you will meet your Creator, that's when you'll know He exists

[@iwrotethis4712]

@@bestronginthelord5413 tell him to fck off

[@colleyhillary5032]

You take the cake!

[@briankamauofficial4253]

Humans just have the urge to believe there is a supreme being

[@lydiavera]

I mean the thought of having no higher being is depressing. We like to think the good shall be rewarded and the bad shall get what they deserve. Keeps people in check

[@nelsonkiiru7252]

Yes but if u think about it how did everything we seeing in nature came into being??Nothing comes out of nothing if u really think deeply about it.

[@bonfacewahome6468]

@@nelsonkiiru7252 the same thought is posed back to you, for such a being to have a precise detail in design, where did he/she come from?

[@nelsonkiiru7252]

@@bonfacewahome6468 Another mystery we will never know in this life time.

[@shango6100]

The same people that enslaved and colonized them gave them the bible and the koran. As Malcolm X would say, "pick up on that". "They gave you the books and took the land/resources". Dr. John Henry Clarke. Now here comes the Chinese.

[@sintoderrick6277]

I want my son to do GOOD because it's GOOD. Not because there's some guy watching him from the sky with threats of eternal condemnation. All religious people are scared to face life without something to believe in and attribute their existence to.

[@Kiviviah]

Dear Atheists, imagine God will never force you to believe in Him. He's not manipulative, He's Love. So you can be disagreeable, you can prove His inexistence all you want. He will never force Himself on you. So It's pointless to make all these points. Those who believe in Him (like I do) will continue to do so regardless. Thank you, as you were.

[@MrX-ve8hc]

Against All Gods? Actually, more like : Against All Delusions.

[@andrecarvalli981]

How can a person born and raised in an island know of the vastness of what is available to them unless they leave that island? same is he who is born into darkness and has chosen not to embrace the light.

[@MrX-ve8hc]

@@andrecarvalli981 And your point is?

[@farhanhappy5895]

As a Muslim I do believe that everybody was born as a Muslim but everyone decides what to practice and how to practice, to be frank understanding this statement will be extremely difficult for so many people to realize and get perfect perspectives.

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Everybody is born an Atheist (without belief), then indoctrination starts as per the dominant dellusions (religiousity) in your geographical area.

[@farhanhappy5895]

According to your statement you're definitely an atheist and nobody respects you that way at all.

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

@@farhanhappy5895 Religion teaches you hate, so I already know. You are not anything close to a moral being if you have to be threatened by eternal fire to be moral. But hate is taught, and religion is what teaches you so much hate.

[@mistletoe3343]

@@farhanhappy5895 that's how you educate people in your religion? By insulting them....

[@malibolosedlaminithambo6249]

Who said Jesus was white... Thats confuses me

[@Colin12475]

Theism tells men that they are the slaves of a God. Atheism assures men that they are the investigators and users of nature. -- Emanuel Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism" (rev. C. Walker, 2001)

[@chrisogonas]

Interesting perspectives!

[@chrisogonas]

@@cb8496 haha I wonder how.

[@petermeyer6873]

Have been to Kenya in 1980s and allways understood the one employee going around as Santa Claus was a special Christmess feature of the german owned hotel. That was all the signs of christian religion I sensed, there. When travelling through Kenya I was presented with both their old and modern culture - christian religion was never a part of it! Why would any society on their way into modernism end up with a foreign religion less usefull as their original, cultivated, practical tribal religious versions, is beyond me.

[@Cegiken]

This shouldn't be a debate. If you don't acknowledge the existence of God, well and good. If you believe, well and good. Live yours leave mine!

[@colleyhillary5032]

Believers in god/s have the burden to proof to us there is a god/s.

[@DjMozz.]

One thing about religion, different gods, yet one common enemy called the devil.... Well, Im not after the science vs religion debate, but i just live, if there is a supreme being, its fine, if there isnt, its still fine...Live and let live,..and yeah,thats it :)

[@naturalist9517]

ooh yeah as long as there is life we r life fuck gods n heaven or hell stories to fool the fools

[@georgeodhiambo598]

Contrary to popular belief, most scientists are also quite religious. Einstein is on record as having stated that there is too much order in the universe to be explained without accepting the existence of a supreme hand. It is only the below average scientists who think in terms of an eternal debate between science and religion.

[@DjMozz.]

@@georgeodhiambo598 well. good point, But at the end of the day, live and let live. Im not claiming to know the truth in any way. Im just a sceptic. Whoever is right is just fine.

[@username82765]

@@georgeodhiambo598 I'm sorry but you are incredibly mis-informed. Albert Einstein believed in Spinoza's God which meant he called the laws of physics "God". _" I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings." _ (Albert Einstein, responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein's question "Do you believe in God?") _"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."_ (Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954) _"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being"._ (Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949)

[@username82765]

@@DjMozz. George did NOT make a good point. He is very mis-informed on what Einstein believed. I recommend you read my response to him.

[@isaackanyo1155]

God is real but has no religion

[@christinegakure882]

God is in the anthem because Kenya is over 80% Christian. That means Kenya is a Christian nation. If we were 80% moslem, there would be no other religion practiced openly.

[@deepsea2141]

your statistics are fake. Muslims: Christians are now 50:50 in Kenya. Somalis make the highest percentage of muslims in Kenya followed by others. Most muslims especially of Somalis marry 4 wives and have many children whilst most Christians have family planning.

[@naturalist9517]

that shows its a matter of which side is superior to the other not jst believing in god

[@christinegakure882]

@@deepsea2141 wacha tungoje census results . It will be 80% Christian ,mark my words. If we were 50% moslem we would already be having counties under sharia law like Nigeria.

[@deepsea2141]

@@christinegakure882 the census results were secretly leaked and Somali turned out to be the second largest tribe after the luhya then followed by Kikuyus.

[@joshuanyamori]

@@christinegakure882 i was a christian and i know very many people who say they are christians and even go to church just because they were born into christianity and nothing about actual belief and faith, in the future when there is less stigma about being atheist i believe people will not be afraid to say that they are not christians or muslims ... that 80% you are saying is just numbers on paper, reality on the ground is that many of us 'christians' are not actually that ... we just say so in order to avoid stigma and long conversations with people we don't want to have them with. i can only speak for christians because i was born in a christian family, if its the same with people of other religions then i believe collectively atheist may be even more than you think or what is written on paper.

[@rxa-z1124]

This is what you call unbiased journalism?

[@nzappazapp8360]

I have evidence that God is real

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Define evidence, then present your evidence...

[@rxa-z1124]

LOL

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

@@rxa-z1124 haha...

[@colleyhillary5032]

Tell us

[@PGVEL]

I believe that religion should be kept out of school. Religion can be taught in the place of worship. Schools should remain neutral and secular. Only then society will prosper. That’s my thought.

[@abdighanitawane7472]

Their has to be a creator because nothing comes from nothing

[@ilynpayne7491]

But a GOD who is capable of evil is not my cup of tea

[@colleyhillary5032]

Fine then ,who created the creator if nothing comes from nothing?

[@MollisMulier]

What I don't understand Mumias is why not just live and let leave? Why ask religion not to be taught? Those who want to learn religion should be left alone. And so should atheists. Kwani is c.r.e or I.r.e compulsory in Kenyan curriculum? For those who think atheism is satanism, you are completely lost. If you don't believe in God, you don't believe in the devil either as those are two opposing forces.

[@theturkanabus3610]

It is in primary