AGATHA ALL ALONG | Marvel's Answer To The Acolyte

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

“Lesbian space witches didn’t work.” “Obviously space is the problem. Do lesbian witches on Earth.” “Genius!”

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

namor movie is gonna be lesbian witches on the sea.

[@jatonator]

Batwoman had lesbian pirates😂

[@jourdonpatron212]

I mean it did work I guess. 9.1 million views and more than I expected considering how much of a flop The Acolyte was

[@hatuletoh]

"What if we had the lesbian witch's singing scene go on for twice--no, three times--as long? I mean, let's really drag that shit out. Four or five verses, and an chorus-outro the witches sing in rounds so it just keeps going, and going, and going..."

[@trueLuminus]

Didn't Star Trek: Picard have lesbian witches who accidentally defeated the borg cube that became the artifact? 🤣 I think there was singing, too, as they stood in a circle. The Zhat Vash

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

"By wine moms for wine moms, but even they won't watch it...." Checks notes (deservedly laugh smugly for 20 seconds)

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

I mean it made 9.1 milliom views, say no one is watching it is reductive

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

@@SubZero-hs9xc Ain't you fun? /s

[@phoster3322]

⁠​⁠@@SubZero-hs9xcThose numbers are misleading. They counted all the views for 2 episodes over 7 full days. They do this on purpose to make the show seem more popular. Let’s not forget, the Acolyte supposedly got 11m+ views, (again, counting for 2 episodes across 7 days) and we all saw what happened with that… 9.1 million is Disney cook numbers, they count this way on purpose. The real numbers are likely far worse.

[@ronniewayne1828]

For a streaming service with over a 150 million subscribers, you think 9.1m views in a week is good?

[@kingslayer2999]

Katherine Hahn Sucks imo I don't like the shape of her face

[@milestrombley1466]

Agony All Along!

[@Black_Revue]

Hagatha All Along

[@bunnywithakeyboard7628]

The best one I’ve seen so far is “Agenda All Along.”

[@brandscape356]

It's funny how Batwoman seems almost quaint now.

[@Thed538dhsk]

How so?

[@rustyshackleford1062]

The nostalgia of a time when such tripe was unique and not the standard

[@PettyCrow-n9c]

Batwoman was just as bad, most of you just weren't sick of it yet

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Batwoman was bad with no budget. Agatha All Along is bad with (I'm assuming) a huge budget, which might not be as annoying, (yet) but it's certainly more wasteful.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 Allegedly this show has a budget smaller than any other Disney+ live action marvel show so under $40 million

[@Steve_P_B]

If any of these so-called "writers" ever saw how popular John Wick is, they would realise how little sympathy people have for a dog murderer. Time to sharpen my pencil!

[@Stop_Gooning]

Recently I had to have a rescue dog put down and I was sick with guilt over it. Doggo bit 3 people in 3 weeks and the last one required a trip to the Urgent Care.

[@alsmith9853]

​@@Stop_Gooningwere you feeling guilty about the humans he bit?

[@Stop_Gooning]

​@@alsmith9853 Obviously. Horrible situation all around.

[@Thed538dhsk]

We actually don't know if Agatha killed an actual dog. Remember that dog was in Wanda's false reality hex where she created her own kids and vision. The dog could've been a carton of milk Wanda TURNED INTO a dog for all we know?

[@Steve_P_B]

@@Thed538dhsk however, all of the people in it outside of Vision, Wiccan, and Speed were real people so it makes sense that the dog was also a real dog, there's nothing to indicate that Wanda created living beings from inanimate objects such as a carton of milk, those created were people that she craved a deep personal relationship with, which is very differentfrom a pet dog. Besides, whether real or not, she still murdered it, creating the same emotional trauma.

[@SiriuslyBlack7]

"There's a history between these two ladies,and by history I think you know what i mean." Answer:SCISSOR ME TIMBERS!!

[@art23428]

Oh yeah scissor

[@gavin5882]

To be fair they did acknowledge that agatha was hallucinating that whole reality in episode 1, that the town begrudgingly played along and bought groceries for her

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I mean, I guess? It could've been explained better. And I still don't understand why everyone in town would just play along with Agatha acting like a crazy person for three years after she went full blown super villain in Wandavision. They honestly acted like they didn't remember that, which raises a lot more questions.

[@AlekTrev006]

@@thoriasunlimited4053exactly ?!! Why play along with an evil witch who deserves an actual prison sentence (at Minimum) - not to be placated by a town of people she victimized with the plot against Scarlet Witch, etc 🤔 Bad writing again, for an MCU show - sigh

[@patrickmcgavin2245]

One more thing doesn't make sense. If this candle shop, owner has 800 lawsuits against her, how's she still in business? Either the law would shut her down, or she'd have to close down shop, bc nobody! would be purchasing her candles.

[@Stop_Gooning]

800 _customers._ They probably rolled up into a class action suit instead of all trying to sue her as individuals.

[@patrickmcgavin2245]

@@Stop_Gooning makes sense. But wouldn't the result be the same? An argument can be made, she's a witch. Therefore she can use magic spells for things she needs. If that's the case, then there's no reason to keep your business open.

[@Stop_Gooning]

@@patrickmcgavin2245 Unless her magic is powered by the suffering of the people she's injured or something like that.

[@KJYKJY1985]

​@@Stop_GooningThat has to be the explanation. I've never made a candle in my life and I could do a better job.

[@Butlee]

Who wants to take a bet that we're eventually told she's innocent and someone else did the nefarious thing that lead to the 800 customers being hurt - and she's the sympathetic, unfortunate scapegoat.

[@cartooncritique6625]

Somebody want to explain to me why they made a TV series about the Fantastic Four's nanny? 🤨

[@user-fu6pt6rn9w]

Maybe because she's an actual comic character with an origin and things like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@GodOfPlague]

Because when you run out of B,C, and D list villains, bring out the Z Tier.

[@IstariAzul777]

If this was about her n Franklin Richards might b interesting but this.. I dunno. I think I feel a bit embarrassed

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

if done right. i can see marvel's adventure in baby sitting.

[@Black_Revue]

Blah, Blah, blah Woman Special Blah...

[@thiefthearcher9907]

Someone told me these characters are supposed to be Unlikable and not bastions of good because it’s closer to real life and they feel like people. Heaven forbid we get some escapism in a magical show about witches.

[@sharkinthewatereagleinthes6865]

"How many times do we have to teach this lesson old man" AKA (Disney)😂

[@paballomolata8844]

We back at it again with Thorias losing his sanity

[@santirank]

This is the reason why I subscribed.

[@leandrodevilsummoner]

Best part of this video

[@tassothomas5186]

If he can survive Batwoman, he can survive anything!

[@kazekamiha]

"I've got 20 bucks coming to me for this bet!" "Did anyone take you up on it?" "..."

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Not gonna lie, that "1/3 of a tank of gas" hit hard lol

[@miguelsantos-cd9tu]

First minutes of show doesn't match end of WandaVision. Wanda left Agatha in role of nosy neighbor in sitcom. Now, she is a detective on a crime drama.

[@Hybridial84]

And people that Wanda tormented are just f-ing with her delusions.

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. THORIAS UNLIMITED AGATHA ALL LONG REVIEW 😂😂😂😂😂🔮🔮🔮🪄🔮🔮🔮🔮🔮

[@znerd3664]

Wanda's original hex changed shows multiple times so that's not an issue. The hex was weakening with Wanda's death anyway Also, for Thorias's "nobody else was remembers the hex", only Agatha was in it, and it's unlikely she ever even left her house. That's why she when she escapes the hex goes from standing in the morgue to standing in her house, and why the teen who was in the "interrogation room" was actually tied up in her closet

[@roderictaylor]

When Agatha remembered herself, her neighbor told her it was only the last few days that she’d been speaking as though she’d been “bitten by the true crime bug.” In the years before that, she’d been the nosy neighbor. Perhaps after Wanda died, she was subconsciously trying to regain her memories.

[@qc6057]

Because they don’t know what to do with her.

[@francoiseeduard303]

We get Aubrey Plaza in the MCU and she’s wasted on this?

[@MrLibormortis]

She was in Legion remember?? but of-curse that is more x man

[@cujoedaman]

Either it's all an act or someone added an extra zero to her check. Or both.

[@Thed538dhsk]

She's also in an indie drama that just released this week AND Megalopolis which also just released this week. Do you get 3 chances to enjoy Plaza in a film or show

[@francoiseeduard303]

@Thed538dhsk This isn’t about “opportunities” and you know it. I specifically said “MCU”.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@francoiseeduard303 okay, facts don't care about your feelings kiddo. You get 3 different films of shows to see Aubrey Plaza in, FACT. Do watch them or don't.

[@gabrieldjatienza6971]

Agatha Harkness is one of those Marvel supporting characters that's meant to be SUPPORT roles next to the headliner characters like Fantastic Four....never meant to be Lead role.

[@rickwj324]

I can't wait to binge this show and the Acolyte.....and I'll do that right after hell freezes over!

[@shadowdramon01]

Apparently, the Funko Pops already spoiled the identity of Aubrey Plaza’s character, revealing her to be Mistress Death. And if that’s true, considering Thanos’ M.O. in the comics, I could totally understand wanting to wipe out half the universe just to clap Aubrey Plaza’s cheeks. 😂

[@aaronwilliams9427]

Your reviews are always 100% spot on and your delivery is hilarious. Lol review the whole show please. Lol

[@AGoodPlace365]

Arnold " What killed the Dinosaur's - 3 episodes of Agatha"

[@MM-xn6tn]

It should be criminally impossible to make shows about lesbian witches that can't draw in young men, yet Disney keeps finding a way.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Maybe cuz they're accurately portraying middle aged lesbians lol

[@big_red01027]

They're not offering 'em to Sydney Sweeney.

[@darkstalkerknight63]

well this video age like 10 year old milk

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

3 in 1? Let me breathe in and prepare for impact 😂

[@toxsin2207]

I think you mean breathe, lol 😂

[@user-zq6sz2cr6g]

@@toxsin2207 Damn it, yes. I'm correcting it now. And I used to be good at spelling...🤣

[@blindpilot_v1]

"Teen" is definitely going to be Wiccan, who is canonically a gay character.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Probably. This kid doesn't seem to be anything like Wiccan though.

[@nicholasking4067]

I think WandaVision should have ended with Wanda trying to surrender to SWORD, only for Agatha to overpower & kidnap her. She then uses the Darkhold to corrupt her & turn her into the Scarlet Witch - so we can get her villainy in Dr Strange - & her motivation could have been that she desires to create a new coven in the modern day. Just a thought, I dunno. Give Agatha more of a point to the wider MCU & make her a compelling antagonist to Wanda & the new Avengers.

[@totomomo18]

Finally you mention the Acolyte

[@pedanticperson1149]

Re: Taking their shoes off - If you pause it at the right moment you can see there's a passage that they've got to walk the road barefoot, to absorb the power, otherwise no power up... I'm guessing someone on the crew is Tarantino in their proclivities.

[@znerd3664]

Nah it's from the comics that you have to traverse the witch's road barefoot Iirc the comics in question were from like 2016?

Or like that Nickelodeon guy.

[@pedanticperson1149]

@@znerd3664 Fair enough, I never really read any of the magic based Marvel (or DC stuff) & I'd definitely given up before 2016.

[@setlik3gaming80]

Agatha had diarrhea All Along.

[@MercenaryX84]

You should definitely keep doing videos about this series. This needs to be studied and shown to future generations, to show them what not to do when writing a show

[@madamefluffy4788]

You would think that the spell Wanda put Agatha under would be damned near impossible for a novice magic user to break through; and yet, none of the witches question how it was possible for this random boy to accomplish just that. Side note: I find it vaguely disturbing that when Agatha is talking to one of her neighbors after being free from the spell - buck ass naked as she does so - that not a single one of these neighbors yell at her to get some clothes on or drag her back to her house until she does. Most they do is try to put a coat over her (which she casts off). Added creepiness is a young girl of maybe 10 or 11, looks on at the naked Agatha in wonderment, dodging her mother's attempts at shielding her eyes from the view. The kid really wanted to ogle the naked body of 50+ year old woman. Just...ew.

[@IrishKyokushin]

I'm hoping that will play into who he really is when it's revealed.

[@znerd3664]

Wanda's death had weakened the hex; there were glimpses of Agatha bleeding through before Billy freed her Also very good chance Billy is being possessed/influenced by Agatha dead son, Nicholas Scratch

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Creepy writing towards minors in a Disney series? Definitely on brand for them in current year.

[@sekanstar3243]

How much you want to bet that if this series can continue they will make that girl a lesbian and was being oppressed by her narrow mind, homophobic, meanie parents 😂

[@anthonyguidas2012]

“Not Wanda, the other villain “. 🤣😂👍

[@leandrodevilsummoner]

let us praise your sacrifice, sir Thorias, seeing this serial bomb for us, mere mortals, keep up the good fight 

[@ParkerCS2]

Marvel and Star Wars both need breaks. Long breaks.

[@Ando1428]

Technically while she was evil the city only knows that the scarlet witch captured and put her their children in coma sleeps. Agatha came and tried to end the spell. Her intensions were terrible but to them she is a hero who lost.

[@ParkerCS2]

I thought Deadpool 3 should’ve been Disney’s chance to clean the slate. They didn’t and missed that chance. Now they are more screwed than before DP&W’s success. Marvel will never be good again as long as Disney owns it. Those “cleaning house” rumors were obviously fake.

[@PhoenixGamerxx96]

Agitating All Along!!

[@r_r_rye2441]

"... the villain from Wandavision? Not Wanda, the other villain." Savage. Genuine lol.

[@BlueDog241]

Your sacrifice is appreciated. I have no idea why people keep making movies and shows about the Villains, with no heroes to interact with. We still have a Kraven movie coming out soon and I have no idea why.

[@realironfist]

Haha dude I’m so glad you watched this show for us so that none of us have to. This is the first MCU project that I completely said “nope” to😂 not now. Not ever

[@EvanBerry.]

Thank you for not forgetting that Agatha ruthlessly killed a dog in WandaVision. I watched this show wondering how the writers could expect the viewer to have sympathy for this person. I appreciate the One More Day reference.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Apparently, they expect us to have sympathy for her by just pretending the dog murder never happened. Well, I'm not forgetting. #JusticeForSparky

[@bobross1829]

It is very obvious now that Disney's big plans for Marvel TV was exactly dumping a bunch of d-list marvel characters there and saying marvel stans will watch anything, because Marvel. After luring everyone in with the first run with actual movie stars, the series have been one bad product after another.

[@reallybig4868]

This was great!

[@andrewlengyel5507]

The "toe tag" was not a toe tag, it was the library card from the missing book. It shows that Agatha had the book before wanda did. Wanda was the last one to possess the book. The book was the darkhold.

[@starlimitz2]

I am missing my daughter's birthday party while in the hospital, beyond depressed. Thanks for the smiles.

[@ParkerCS2]

I’m scared they gonna resurrect Wanda thus letting her get off Scott free for murdering innocents in Multiverse of Madness. That Scarlet Witch movie better not happen.

[@Thed538dhsk]

Why not? She already died to face her consequences. Anakin Skywalker came back to life after killing a room full of kids and people were cool with it

[@haroldb1856]

I still don't know what she sacrificed for them.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@haroldb1856 she sacrificed her happy false reality and her family contructs.

[@patrickmcgavin2245]

If this was a rushed project, I could forgive Agatha turning out this way. But they had 3 YEARS!!, and this is what they give us. Is it any wonder why MCU had died? Of course there were 3 really good movies in phase 4&5. They were Spider-Man NWH. Which is apart of phase 4. Bc end game was the end of the first 3 phases. That's how it was supposed to be, so in my head canon it is. Then there's Guardians of the Galaxy. And Deadpool&Wolverine. Considering all the content in phase 4&5, 3 is a disastrous number. Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves. If I was involved, I'd be embarrassed of all these failures.

[@Ozymandias2x]

Agatha All Along was a great little music video, so I was confused when I saw everyone complaining about it. And then I found out the truth and WHY IS THIS A THING?

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

The AAA number was a fun little jingle. It was clever and charming. Even I enjoyed it. Then it got old and played out, and everyone moved on. That was a couple years ago. There's a lot less charm to be found here.

[@jourdonpatron212]

The show ain't my cup of tea but to say NOBODY is watching when it got almost 9 million views is crazy. That's 5 million more than X-Men 97 got.

[@Karthig1987]

Fair point Someone else said though that Disney+ has 150 million subscribers total and even starting that obviously that marvel isn't for all of them this is a very low number. Surprised X-Men did that little though

[@Thed538dhsk]

​@@Karthig1987animation almost ALWAYS gets lower views. Bad Batch, what if, invincible, X-Men, caped crusader, etc. all get lower views than The Acolyte which was cancelled. Animation is also much cheaper than live action BUT more labor intensive

[@Necroverse19]

That was in the very beginning, but numbers have dropped precipitously since then. There's almost always going to be a massive influx of views when it comes to something new, but rarely can that be sustained.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Let's see how long the audience sticks around though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but The Acolyte started out with good numbers too only for the viewership to drop off a cliff once they actually saw the show.

[@jourdonpatron212]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 TRUE. You right, you right.... We'll see.....

[@ParkerCS2]

Disney are gonna potentially ruin Mephisto. Just like they are gonna ruin Galactus and Doctor Doom.

[@znerd3664]

I'd be amazed if they actually introduce Mephisto properly. The namedrop was just fanservice that the showrunners had previously said was coming. Iirc there's an issue with airing films in China that include the devil so Mephisto is most likely still off the board

[@ParkerCS2]

@@znerd3664 I thought Chinese have their own religion. Why are they so sensitive towards supernatural stuff?! And why are they so obsessed about atheism to the point where they hate fictional movies about supernatural stuff?! 🤷‍♂️ they basically are obsessed to atheism like it’s a religion or a cult! Wtf is wrong with them?!

[@Thed538dhsk]

​@@znerd3664Disney Plus isn't in China. Also recent MCU films and Disney films overall haven't been released in China since Guardians vol. 3 I think. China has broken up with Disney

[@bri55118]

For anyone who might be interested, the Salem seven are agatha's grandchildren in the comics. They are evil as their father, who is the son of agatha. Having them hunting her to gain power for some plan could maybe work, but that would take Tallent we know.

[@ParkerCS2]

I’d rather Paramount buy back Marvel and for John Lassenter to replace Kevin Feige.

[@Thed538dhsk]

I understand Paramount owning Marvel but why hire John Lassenter?

[@beatstick4963]

They make the identity of the gay teen a mystery when they already spoiled it in an interview.

[@yurikendal4868]

I really like how you pull out the immoral actions of these characfters without being preachy. Thank you. You do well as a reveiewer.

[@VictorSellars]

ABSOLUTELY HILLARIOUS TAKE!!! WELL DONE SIR!!

[@UndeadNerdT800]

2:09 it was for the hazbin hotel fanbase

[@Crux_JCr]

The cop show thing was a delusion. Her mind trying to shield itself as reality came crashing back in because that kind of trauma dump would f**k up anyone. So her mind was filtering out the information to put it back piece by piece. Wanda "stole" the only copy of the darkhold she had at the end of WandaVision, and at the end of MoM she destroyed all the copies of it in existence across the multiverse. When she remembered wanda she remembered herself. Then she had to peel back all those personalities wanda trapped her under to remember her real self. None of the other people were affected. And I HOPE that "teen" isn't Wiccan because that is NOT Wiccan's personality, but current day Hollywood views all "groups" as a monolith and every single gay guy, lesbian, black man, black woman, muslim, Chinese, Japanese, white man, and white woman all have the exact same personality with an extremely light dusting of sprinkles on top. But god I miss when Wiccan was just a guy who likes guys rather than a gay guy, and anyone like me knows the difference.

[@christopherduffy3898]

Thorias, please look up the original comic book Salem Seven. They are all individually so different, have colorful costumes, and all kinds of fun, eclectic powers. Leave it to Disney/Marvel to make them ever so generic and bland.

[@Norbert_Sattler]

You know something was exhausting to watch, when Thobrias doesn't even add a dig at KZbin at the end...

[@lucymiau5700]

I'ts made for an Audience that loves things like Halloweentown, HocusPocus and Harry Potter.

[@sharkpoolbolt662]

This isn’t the worst MCU Disney+ show, but it’s definitely not something I would go back and watch again

[@MrHero17]

Idc . I’m done with the MCU. Been done with it awhile now. Just let it die.

[@isafarooq1721]

After Thanos it's pointless. They should have left on a high note and then start making disconnected superhero movies. Anything they make is going to be bloated with baggage if they keep up this MCU charade

[@MrHero17]

@@isafarooq1721 well I wouldn’t go that far. The MCU hasn’t even tapped in the pool of marvel hero’s . They have endless content and characters to work with . Disney just sucks 😂

[@S_raB]

Everyone dies by the last episode, leaving only Agatha. She reaches the end to get her wish. But gives up restored powers to revive all her "friends" (and possibly long lost son Teen/Billy).

[@chinmayudyavar]

Can you review The Penguin? It looks to be quite good.

[@penofinspiration]

Marvel must understand, they need to stop going hard on the Disney side & let the franchise go dark. The goofyness in everything is everything wrong with marvel at this point. We can't have characters dark on the comics & clowns on screen

[@puppiesarepower3682]

Charmed on Disney. Charmed on boxed wine. That's what this is.

[@emank03]

a show green-lit bcuz of a fckn *song* yk ☠️

[@vertigo2894]

"Diverse witch"?

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

Maybe if Agatha didn't spend the whole show gurning like a pantomime villain...

[@b.a.d.wavesradio7314]

You and Disparu make this show so damn funny!!

[@Adamcameralens]

This review was hilarious i need you to do episode 4

[@RottweilerAK]

Best case, the final episode ends with the two guys from Supernatural showing up to town...then credits.

[@andrewbyrne2173]

And they’re still trying to make Ironheart a thing.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

At least they had enough sense to keep the Ironheart show on the shelf for the last two years.

[@eyallev]

(9:30) I thought you were just playing about the false reality thing, but I guess you need some help. Agata was on "auto pilot" interacting with everyone normally, and everyone thought everything was fine, until Wanda died. at that point in time, Agata became a detective in her mind, and started to act out some of the things she was seeing in her mind, in real life (like, going into a library and saying "police business". her "friends" were mostly just playing along, as they weren't sure what's going on.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

"Just playing along..." with the evil witch who terrorized their community and put them all in danger a few years ago. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Why would they play along? Why not just call the authorities? Call SHIELD, call SWORD. Call Doctor Strange and tell him there's a witch who's not in her right mind in town and this might be something he'd want to look into to make sure she isn't dangerous or something. Hell, call some mental health professionals and get this woman psychiatric treatment. The fact that they did NOTHING is utterly bonkers.

[@eyallev]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 agata didn't hold them hostage, if anything, it was agata that freed them, so you can bet they'd play along. from the view point of the people of westview, wanda put a spell on them, and about a week later, agata broke free lost a fight with wanda, shield came in and did nothing but try and shoot at some kids, and than wanda left, after putting a curse on agata. none of them knew she had a killer rabbit

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Saying Agatha wasn't the bad guy just because there was someone else who did worse stuff to them is kind of a stretch. If I was living in Westview, I definitely wouldn't want to be anywhere near Agatha after that, especially if I'm a dog owner.

[@eyallev]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 to be fair, odds are the dog did belong to someone thing is, no one (but us) knows about the bad things she did (and for all the people of westview know, she was under Wanda's control).

[@trueblaze84]

If the point of the series is that they're all terrible people, with a handful of sympathetic scenes shown to humanize but not sympathize, and we're supposed to enjoy watching bad things happen to them then maybe the premise works, but honestly not really sure what they're going for. And with all the rewrites i doubt the show runners do either. A lot of these shows are getting messed over because of rewrites due to Disney trying to corse correct since they were mostly done before the correction and had to work with what they had, so hopefully in the next year we'll start seeing more organized material again. It's possible and there will always be the "i hate Disney" bandwagon chodes that will hate it no matter what, but they've got a lot of work to get the fandom's respect back.

[@Thed538dhsk]

So it's like Willy Wonka? But witches and a spooky "yellow brick road" instead of misbehaved kids. Is teen Charlie then?

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I'm not sure if that's the point. It seems clear that we're meant to find Agatha charmingly wacky. Despite her being an absolutely horrible person, they want us to root for her to get her magic back, so I guess that dog murderer thing is just being swept under the rug. And episode 3 tried to get us to root for the potion witch (I can't remember their names for the life of me) despite her giving zero f*cks about horrifically burning 800 innocent people. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone being queer coded is supposed to be some sort of Get Out Of Jail Free card. It certainly wouldn't be the first time we've seen that in modern media or in the comics for that matter. Hell, Mystique and Destiny are criminals/terrorists/murderers and the attitude toward them in the comics these days is "Oh, those pesky lesbians are up to something again. Run along, you little scamps." Seriously, Mystique has done some absolutely diabolical shit in the comics, but because she's lgbt, it all just gets glossed over. So far, it seems like the same thing in this show.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 wdym because they are lgbt? Norman, octavius, and even Thanos get away with their exploits and they aren't lgbt? Norman convinced everyone he was a hero as iron patriot and people fell for it. Octavius became a "better" Spider man than Peter. And Thanos is treated like a mischievous scamp all the time despite being a planetary threat and even galaxy wide terror he's caused

[@trueblaze84]

​@@thoriasunlimited4053 I haven't seen the series yet honestly, I'll watch it eventually but currently don't have disney+ since I rotate subscriptions. I was just speculating that maybe A. They meant to make them bad people we aren't supposed to like but reshoots and over use of humor messed it up, or B. You have a tendency to not to be able to recognize self deperational humor (like the scene in the Barbie Movie where the girls are punching the dolls wasn't meant to promote that kind of mindset but make fun of the extremists and how ridiculous they look) and often contribute it to just bad writing promoting the thing rather than making fun of it. Like I said haven't seen it myself so I don't know but it is something to consider. Ya, unfortunately the trend to ignore peoples misdeeds because of their protected status has been an issue for a while in writing. Fortunately, things like that tend to go in cycles and it does seem to be happening less these days (though probably won't fade till around 2030) Maybe one day we'll get the LBTQ equilvilant of Moral Oral because of it XD. As for the Mystique thing, don't forget even your beloved Rouge started out as a villain and did some pretty terrible things before switching sides only difference is she switched before the 90's made comics dark and has been a hero for so long most people have forgoten she started out evil.

[@trueblaze84]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 I haven't seen the series yet honestly, I'll watch it eventually but currently don't have disney+ since I rotate subscriptions. I was just speculating that maybe A. They meant to make them bad people we aren't supposed to like but reshoots and over use of humor messed it up, or B. You have a tendency to not to be able to recognize self deperational humor (like the scene in the Barbie Movie where the girls are punching the dolls wasn't meant to promote that kind of mindset but make fun of the extremists and how ridiculous they look) and often contribute it to just bad writing promoting the thing rather than making fun of it. Like I said haven't seen it myself so I don't know but it is something to consider. Ya, unfortunately the trend to ignore peoples misdeeds because of their protected status has been an issue for a while in writing. Fortunately, things like that tend to go in cycles and it does seem to be happening less these days (though probably won't fade till around 2030) Maybe one day we'll get the LBTQ equilvilant of Moral Oral because of it XD. As for the Mystique thing, don't forget even your beloved Rouge started out as a villain and did some pretty terrible things before switching sides only difference is she switched before the 90's made comics dark and has been a hero for so long most people have forgoten she started out evil.

[@stolbez666legend]

They explain the cop show thing. The neighbor tells Agatha that's she's been doing the cop thing for a few weeks and that people in town have just been playing along, thinking she went crazy. They're basically trying to keep in the same vein as WandaVision. That's why they give a lot of scenes that are based from other films. As far as the 'gayness' goes, they really haven't shown much. And really, does it matter? It seems like any show using homosexuality is automatically deemed as 'woke'. Not that I necessarily approve, but it is our actual reality. We have homosexuals. We have transgenders. We have this huge thing now with pronouns (I personally don't understand it). But we criticize shows for adding these elements that do exist in our world, and for some of the elements, have for many decades. Not saying that anyone has to be happy about it, but to act like those elements shouldn't exist in cinema when they exist in our lives is kind of dumb.

[@omenriver2399]

The Giggity was everything. Lol😂 and everyone agrees. 😅😂😅😂

[@LouisLitt369]

Agatha was the only one locked in the reality. Spoiler kid did go into the reality to save Agatha or something. Seems the towns people were humoring her or something Tho. They weren't in the reality..

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Why humor her after she went full blown super villain at the end of Wandavision though? Wouldn't they want to get the hell away from her after that? And you're telling me that she's just been walking around Westview for the last three years thinking she's a police detective working cases and nobody did anything? You'd think someone wouldn't have called social services or gotten the men in white coats to take her away at some point.

[@Hazmatt4700]

Get in there and take this for the team. We'll get the next one... some time down the road.

[@josephatherley]

AS loath as I am to defend this show, sorcery and witchcraft have been established to not be the same thing

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

And? The kid said that he learned what he knows about magic by studying. Strange learned sorcery the exact same way. He also says that he wants to "blast, shield and levitate" - all things that can also be done with? You guessed it... sorcery! They don't seem so different to me.

[@jean-francoislebroch9171]

You are the best

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I try.

[@featherguardian6023]

Ok I will be completely honest with you, while I’m aware this and Vision Quest is part of a Trilogy and Marvel needs to go on a Darker Route, I have no idea why this Freaking Series was Greenlight, there’s no Potential in this, for crying out loud Agatha was always a Side Character that only works as a Supporter like Midnight Sons or as a One Time Antagonist, not the Main Character of a Limited Series with Scaped Titles that are Better than All Along, I got so Bored it reminded me of the She-Hulk Series that I’m wondering if the Same Mid Age Female Writers are responsible for this, don’t get me wrong I’m aware there’s Comic Easter Eggs and the Teen and Latina with the Black Heart are the Only Solid Things along the 2nd Episodes being better than the First, the rest feels like a Waterdown Experiment nobody asked and the Budget was completely wasted as they could’ve used it to literally something else in the MCU, sadly there’s 7 Episodes Left for you to watch Gio so Good Luck on this Witches Road and Defending the Wrong Gotham Knights, for Christ Sake’s the Game is Better than the CW Monstrosity.

[@odojang]

Marvel had Deadpool and Wolverine to save it, so now they try to save Star Wars by making something that would have everyone forget The Acolyte. Yeah it's that dumb.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

no, maybe u are too lazy to fiqure the plot of the show, the fans will never forget darth plagaeuis

[@odojang]

@@da-vidcargill4975 It takes only the first 5 minutes to figure out the so-called plot since they show everything about it (and badly) in those first 5 minutes. Yeah, it's that dumb. Just like you it seems. Hence why _you_ call it a plot. As for creepy-crawling cave troll Darth Plaegeus of _this_ shitshow, yeah, everyone has already forgotten that idiotic portrayal.

[@2tone209]

AY UP THORIAS

[@waswolltihr1526]

Here is a comment for your pain relief.

[@skwills1629]

All of The Witches in The Coven Will Die Episode by Episode until Agatha and Wiccan are Left.

[@kellymays5138]

It feels like Kevin feige and Kathleen Kennedy place a bet with their shows, trying to see who can sink their product first.

[@rhast57]

I'm sorry I enjoy your suffering, but I love these videos.

[@DuneStone6816]

Agatha was traped in a hex alone. It was all in her head. The other people of Westview were not in the hex at all. Agatha merely percieved them as playing characters in the alternate reality she was trapped in. From everyone else's perspective, Agatha was talking nonsense all the time, and they were just humoring her.

[@robertt5015]

Mr, Agatha was trapped in her mind. As neighbour said, she was staying all the time in the house. Bad analysis.

[@JustinVillemure]

So WandaVision was all in Agatha's head? Not a great analysis or UNDERSTANDING from you.

[@ultra6671]

This show is pretty much "We have _The Owl House_ at home".

[@icepicjoey]

4:31 that was great....😂

[@markjones607]

Wasn’t Aubrey Plaza in Legion, another MCU tv show?

[@notacompleteidiot...1285]

Yes. Marvel-ish, but not MCU. But we shouldn't talk about that. 😉

[@Karthig1987]

Hope you get all the views

[@OfficialTaylormade1]

24:30 whoa buddy! That 70s Show was freaking awesome!

[@LostHorizons0]

Except for Hyde he’s a grapist and cultist

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I liked That 70's Show a lot. I was just joking... for humor reasons.

[@skeith1543]

Resist Brother! Don't poison your soul with this!

[@neilrusling-je6zo]

Well you are looking lots better, got a bit of colour back in the face. Glad to see you back on form, all the best! Now I must get back to my Lego Sanctum Santorum which is a great set, even if it is a Marvel set connected to that awful Doctor Strange movie I cannot recommend it enough, have fun!

[@jeremymcclary3901]

0:01...based upon the fact that this caption, and this click bait, exists...multiplied by Disney's recent history, sub divided by the square root coeficnt of recent history equals... GOD!! THIS SHITE IS GONNA ROCK!!!!.... (Carry on my good SIR.....)

[@Starkiller2725]

As someone into esoteric stuff, i enjoy it, but i don't really try to think about it. Also, Agatha is awesome.

[@darthsnowdon]

Never forget sparky.

[@inadisguise9824]

The show can exist all it wants, that's fine, but I don't have to like it, and I can point and laugh and make fun of it all I want for not liking it. I am tired of the I am not the target "modern audience", I am not allowed to have an opoin on the show. Just also stop blaming me for the low ratings and it cancelation, specially when the target "modern audience" did not show up and watch it either, or target "modern audience" did show up and it just such a small group that it's number are not enough to stop it from being canceled.

[@Thed538dhsk]

To be fair, yes you're allowed to do all that BUT people are also allowed to blame you. Freedom of speech allows for you to roast this show but also for some fans to roast you for not being the "targeted audience". And you're allowed to roast them back, so forth and so forth.

[@inadisguise9824]

@Thed538dhsk One thing about that though the target audience reject it too.

[@Thed538dhsk]

@@inadisguise9824 that's okay, they are allowed to. It's on Marvel to earn viewership, it's not owed