Agatha All Along Series Finale Review

[@ambivalentsheep]

Billy claiming responsibility for the deaths of the coven is a statement that he is not his mother. Wanda consistently justifies her cruelty in WV and MM whether she is conscious or not of what she has done. Billy doesn't - he owns that his powers and his desires have contributed to other people's deaths whether or not he knew he was doing it. Wanda created Westview from her childhood of sitcoms, Billy created his from his witchy childhood. Not only does it work as the child overcoming the trauma and flaws of the parent but as a queer reading it argues homo/transphobic parents who "didnt know any better" or acted out of cultural bigotry do not get a pass. The pain they caused is real whether they realised it at the time or not. Billy is breaking that - he is owing that the witchcraft he inherited can and has contributed to death.

[@SXJAYSX]

To be fair in WV Wanda was more remourceful (except the show was like "they will never know what you sacrificed for them line, tf?" 😂 In my eyes it was MoM that dropped the ball.

[@xsanguine8]

Just MoM, her guilt and remorse for her misguided actions are the reason she was an Avenger at all.

[@Permafry42108]

The real witches road was the friends we murdered along the way;

[@zenithquasar9623]

LMAO!!!! Amazing!

[@AdrianLuker]

Best comment ever, LMAO!! 😂

[@edwardallenthree]

Thank you for this comment!

[@karlotty]

Follow me my friend, to murder at the end! 🎶💜

[@jimmyg.]

"He is alone. No one loves him. Am I killing a boy so my brother can live?" - lost it. 😭

[@ematuskey]

Followed up by the devastating "No Billy, sometimes boys just...die."

[@FrostCHNOS]

@@ematuskey That's the line that really hit me, as soon as she was alone she was vulnerable enough to mention her son out loud, and that there wasn't anything else she could do for him

[@ematuskey]

Rio making sure Nick kisses his mother before walking off with her almost broke me. That and her offering a bit of cold comfort to Alice ("You died protecting someone") really helped balance out the (absolutely fun) cackling maniac we got other times. I loved the last two episodes--but I will grant this felt more like a season finale, not a series one. Much as AAA was a quasi second season to Wandavision, I'm hoping we get "The Adventures of Billy and Agatha" as another one-off season to continue the story. Tommy is out there now, after all, and I don't think they'll save him for a movie.

[@4203105]

They might play a role in Visionquest. If not we'll have to wait till at least 2027 to see them again. Visionquest is already 2026...

[@marielalara1202]

This is supposed to be a trilogy. Wandavision, Agatha All Along, and then the one is gonna be Vision Quest. I'm pretty sure Billy and Agatha are gonna pop up since Tommy is supposed to be in it.

[@zemoxian]

@@marielalara1202 Someone in the comments of another video claims a fourth season was recently added to the planning. No idea what that’s supposed to be about.

[@zekewalker1350]

Aubrey played death with such a warmth and comfort because she comes to all and she knows it’s just about balance. A huge reason I disliked IW/Endgame is cuz thanos would actually be upsetting the balance of the universe by killing half of all (sentient) life. Like it’s pure hubris to believe that YOU ALONE can balance the universe as if it’s incapable of balancing itself.

[@fabrisseterbrugghe8567]

I'm glad it was irreversible -- the deaths on the road. We all comprehend "actions have consequences" when someone _consciously_ takes an action. Billy creating the road wasn't a conscious act, but he still had to accept that there were consequences. I also liked that Agatha pointed out that Lilia's death was her own choice, not Billy's responsibility. She owned up to Lorna's death being on her, rather than Billy. Of them all, Agatha only let him accept Mrs. Davis' death. Even when Billy asked if he was killing someone to save Tommy, Agatha said that sometimes children just die.

[@joelvandyke7505]

Lorna? Oh Alice.

[@theshire9173]

Well, Agatha killed Lorna previously, but in this journey she killed Alice

[@joelvandyke7505]

@@theshire9173 Huh? Oh that would be really cool, but if that's true it's annoying they didn't show lorna in the montage.

[@theshire9173]

@@joelvandyke7505 I just assumed because they said Lorna died on the witches road. Since the witches road isn't real, the only logical conclusion is that she was tricked like all the other witches and killed

[@djkittycat]

@@theshire9173 I don't think it is the only logical conclusion. That was the general public's rumor, but Alice knew she died in a hotel fire. The hotel fire could have been the demon's doing.

[@QandDRecordings]

The reason that the stuff between Agatha and Billy in the last episode really hit for me, is because I think that Billy taking responsibility for the deaths on the road is both a strong indication of the kind of hero he will be, and potentially a big turning point for Agatha. Agatha’s whole thing is that she’s the villain because she never had the choice to be anything else, due to the nature of her powers. She has absolved herself of any guilt because she’s only ever done what she had to. Or at least, that’s what she thought. But then this child, this teen, shows up, and has the courage to do what Agatha never could. He confronts the consequences of his actions, and despite having so many reasonable ways to let himself off the hook, he chooses to take responsibility. It demonstrates a powerful strength of character, and puts the lie to everything Agatha’s ever told herself to justify her actions. It turns out that she’s always had a choice, after all, and has simply chosen the easy road. Now Billy has shown her that there’s another road. The question is, will she choose to go down it?

[@execuwutie_YT]

Thats some great inisght that helps me view episode 9 in a different light

[@enderbro8971]

Absolute poetry!! I fully agree 💜💜

[@treskyplesky1189]

Exactly! My opinion is that he didn't even to need to apologize for anything, to me The Road was just a machine he made and set in motion and it's mostly Agatha's fault that she didn't tell them all in the begining when it appeared that The Road was a lie and it's dangerous to go that way. Yes I do agree that after they died Billy is partially to blame and it's amazing that he's taking the responsibility for their deaths, to me though it was mostly just Agatha's fault all along.

[@Cangeltibon]

But I love that Agatha, never really changes through the season, she’s a villain but she loved her son and has a soft spot for children. She’s a force that can’t be left alone unchecked but she’s useful when well managed. I think making her a ghost guide is perfect.

[@FrostCHNOS]

I sincerely hope she becomes the young Avenger's magical ghost Jarvis, lol

[@jang7675]

@@FrostCHNOS Her just roasting Kamala and Kate Bishop is all I want from the Young Avengers now.

[@mrcase77]

I think my two things... I think what Episode 9 did (with Nicky story) is showing what Agatha's experience with Billy had really been the entire time. Billy was unintentionally recreating Agatha's adventures with her son (the entire time). All of episode 2 was Billy and Agatha running a con to build that coven, and it was the exact same con done with the same team work that Agatha had done with Nicky for the same purpose. And she treated Billy the same way she'd treated Nicky the entire time. Up to and including her sending Billy upstairs while she was trying to "handle" the witches before the door to the road opened. Every single time there was danger, Agatha protected Billy (just like she had with Nicky). And then the song itself...that tied itself to episode 4. In the end, if you think about it, Agatha's son created the Witch's Ballad for and with Agatha and it did every bit of what Lorna Wu's song did for Alice. The song quite literally served to protect Agatha and give her strength for the rest of her life and it shaped her destiny even in the very closing moments of the show. The song lead her to Billy. I feel like that's what they were doing. What that last episode did was show us that Billy was unknowingly giving Agatha one last ride with someone like her son. He was letting her relive her happiest and most tender moments in life one more time, twisted though they may have been. It's why I have a little mixed feelings on Agatha/Rio falling a little flat (which I do think that did). I think at the end of the day, this entire show was a love story about Agatha and her son.

[@ndleafy]

I want this comment higher! I had not made the parallel BTW her ways of using Nicky and Billy. This show has a higher rewatchabilty factor than any of the other Disney+ marvel TV shows for me. I am admittingly not into the Marvel lore but I was fascinated with the coloring with the red(scarlet witch) and purple (Agatha) and blue (billy) I will have to rewatch to track some of the color progression but from the color scheme I wanted to map on a sort of two mothering connection to Billy.

[@Atowntrekkie]

So, admittedly I get a different read from the finale due to my own history, but here goes. I suffer from rather severe borderline personality disorder. It's been a long road getting from there (diagnosis) to here (current stage of healing), but before I start singing the Enterprise theme, BPD has led me to behaviors that then further led to severe regret and the loss of a lot of people I cared about. Though said people aren't dead, their time in my life is permanently over because of my own actions, and it's taken a long time to come to terms with that. Symbolically, those losses are Deaths, which I've had to (and still do) grieve. "I do tend to kill my coven-mates," resonated hard with me, along with Billy's own pain at the realization that his actions inadvertently led to harm toward others. He acknowledges his guilt and the pain that comes with it whereas Agatha spent centuries doing what I had done - coping with the pain destructively, without seeming to care about the consequences and without doing the work to truly face the truth and heal. Recovery is an exceptionally hard Road, and from that lens, the whole season could be read as two witches working through their shit, not unlike how this witch had to work through her shit. Now, again. This is very much so a biased read, but it works for me and I like the fact that it paralleled my struggles and helped me realize how far I've come. Still got a long way to go, but getting there. -steps away from soapbox-

[@Nariasan]

Listen, I got severe BPD, bipolar, and am on the spectrum... it has made friendships hard. I agree with your reading of it. So many relationships & friendships ruined that I am grieving still...

[@llynxfyremusic]

A good theme summary for this show is healing. And acceptance. Accepting your own actions, accepting death, moving on with your life as it is now.

[@zekewalker1350]

This reminds me unfortunately about Kanye West’s struggle with BPD he talks about when he’s not manic he sees all the damage that he did and now he has metaphorically killed his relationship with the public. ❤

[@Atowntrekkie]

@zekewalker1350 The sheer amount of destruction that can be caused by bipolar and borderline is rough and difficult to deal with. As I've mentioned to my therapist on many occasions, I often don't recognize the person I was when in a relapse. It takes a lot of therapy and treatment to build the skills necessary to avoid relapses like that, and to acknowledge and accept responsibility for the harm done. I may not be a fan of Kanye West, but I can definitely relate to the struggles of BPD

[@ThePonderer]

I love that between Billy and Agatha we have a character clinging onto life for life’s sake, who sees life as the ultimate good, and a character running away from death not because she really wants to live, she just wants to die *less.*

[@sese8976]

DID YOU SPOT THE FLAG ?????

[@du6ze]

Yeah I definitely did.

[@zenithquasar9623]

I mean, it was hard not to ahaha.

[@EternalDensity]

YES

[@enter4none]

At the end of the season, THIS Wiccan is the one I can see becoming a sorcerer supreme.

[@frankmccormick5499]

My view of Billy's guilt over the deaths on the road. Agatha called it out. It's about his legacy from Wanda. They both unconsciously created their own realities. And although the Witches' Road was beneficial compared to Wanda's enslavement of an entire town, three people died. Billy recognizes his responsibility in this and possible future major magic creations. This is in contrast to Agatha who never considered the repercussions of killing one coven after another and Wanda who chose to ignore the suffering of others in order to comfort herself. (In both WandaVision and Dr. Strange)

[@ASTROMOSTRA6]

Yes, the theme its still grief, just as in WandaVision.

[@christineherrmann205]

Yes. And whether or not we'll use power/will to try to evade it/loss.

[@YoungMovieReviews]

I love that Agatha is a jerk the whole time because of what happens every time we get a movie or series about the villain. We find out that "oh no, they're not bad; they are just misunderstood." they have been a bit of a cry out there of, why can't the villains just be villains. Agatha is kinda giving us that

[@pirateguy3521]

Agatha is that one evil aunt and we love her for that!

[@strawberryskates]

I cried + got chills at various points throughout the two episodes, so it definitely hit for me. I do wish the flashback scene with Agatha was a bit shorter, but I appreciate that the structure of the episodes was different. Also, even though Billy didn't intentionally kill anyone, it makes sense that he'd blame himself. He's young, he has all this power that's very new to him & still doesn't know who he truly is as a person. I can see how he'd blame himself for something he didn't really have control over + how he would think that its a reflection of his character/morals.

[@shelleylloyd5396]

The way they structured the last two episodes reminded me of the last two episodes of Buffy season 4. Which is fitting because we saw the Once More With Feeling poster in Billy's room in episode 8.

[@locker.535]

I think Agatha’s guilt around Nicky comes from the life she gave him. Because she didn’t want to let him go at birth and made the agreement with Rio for “time” with him. She then had 6 years with Nicky but she spent those years teaching him how to kill other witches. And toward the end of his life, he clearly didn’t want that kind of life and refused to continue doing it. That is where her guilt and shame come from. It’s terribly sad. And to think when they connected again during her trial, it was for him to say “momma, stop” 😢

[@CortexNewsService]

That would also explain why she says "Because I can't face him!"

[@untitled-gv3qp]

I don't understand one thing though. Was Agatha killing the other witches just for power or was there an actual reason that she had to? I know we'll probably get more backstory when they make a sequel to aaa but Agatha always treated it more as a survival thing. And why did her mom try and kill her if it was before she started killing witches and stealing their power?

[@JediMB]

​@@untitled-gv3qpThe impression I got was that she kills witches so she can continue being a witch, herself. As if every other witch is a self-sustaining being that regenerates over time, while Agatha is a parasite dependent on others.

[@fagene3809]

​​@@untitled-gv3qp I've seen theories suggesting that she started killed other witches as a way to keep Nicholas alive. In episode 8 rio asks if agatha was trying to distract her from Billy, that might be a parallel to her killing witches to keep rio busy / givin her other people's lives in exchange for Nicky's and that she continued after his death so people would think she did it because she's evil (reputation she might have partially had already) rather than because her son needed it to survive (people might have giving him the fault) "why do you let them believe these things about you?" "because the truth is worse". Not sure about the stuff with her coven and her mother tho

[@xerofelix7090]

I honestly think you're a little too tied to everything about Billy being an lgbt metaphor. Not that it's wrong, but the ending of the last episode wasn't about that. The whole series has been about them facing death (figuratively as well as literal "Death"). The end was about how they both processed it. Specifically about the results of accidentally causing someone's death (or just feeling like you caused their death). Agatha reacted by turning bitter and killing more and more witches. How Billy reacts remains to be seen in future MCU shows and movies. If you want to tie it into lgbt, think back to how many of our people died in the fight for rights, or simply for being lgbt, and how their loved ones often blame themselves for "letting them" be involved in the community. The survivors of tragedies like the Pulse Nightclub massacre or diseases like AIDs often feel guilty or even responsible for those deaths.

[@marylincherie1806]

The last episode not being the finale but trying to tie up loose ends, I really liked. I wish we could have gotten a bit more on Agatha and Death's relationship as there are still open questions on that part. I am sad Agatha seems to have learned nothing and being rewarded for it but that's like in real life I guess. Sad to see the others are really dead and Billy blames himself for it. I mean anyone sane would, but he didn't do it on purpose. It was an accident. Not so sure about him hanging around with the person who didn't stop it, doesn't deny his responsibility and who betrayed him just a minute ago. Hope he finds better friends along the way.

[@MovieTvDrama]

Billy blames himself for the other's deaths the way that Agatha blames herself for Nicky's death. It's the one death that's not Agatha's fault, yet she feels so guilty for it that she died for Billy in his stead when he invokes Nicky's memory despite her saying that she didn't do it for Billy. With Agatha lingering on as a ever strengthening ghost, I wonder if Billy will be the one finding her a body to inhabit like he had done for Tommy in a future story line. Agatha is ruthlessly terrifying in how she lures witches to their deaths and it's effective when some humanity comes through. She sees Nicky in Billy and even after seeing clearly what kind of person Agatha is, Billy finds that special bond between them irresistible. Agatha was forged through her horrible experiences with her own mother and coven, but while she remains seeing other people as disposable for her own survival, she was a patient, loving mother to Nicky. If the same creative team can continue exploring these characters it would be great because there's still so much more of their dynamic to explore. Billy learning to cut through Agatha's hardened selfish motives while also fostering this mentor relationship between them. Wiley, mercurial Agatha figuring out how to get out of her situation or perhaps finding peace finally with Nicky. Also, full Agatha and Rio backstory of course. If their characters are left to appear in other stories as side characters, then at least we had them in this version here.

[@docweidner]

I was hoping for a bit more about how she and Rio met as well as how she got the Darkhold. But loved the range of Catherine Hahn, Joe Locke, and Aubrey Plaza, especially in that last episode. The cast, in general, was fantastic.

[@FatsCaton]

They set up Jenn and the Midnight Sons and now we know why it was Billy who always started the trials. It was his "Westview Hex" all along!

[@sirjedisentinel]

If I may, I'm gonna make a comparison that only a handful of people are gonna get. Agatha Harkness is a lot like Angelique Bouchard from Dark Shadows. She has the capacity to be good. But whenever she's challenged, she will default to what she knows. Honestly, I think Agatha is one of the MCU's most complex, nuanced characters

[@aliceisoverthere4972]

Oh wow now that you made the comparison, I can't believe I didn't see it before!

[@imjumokay]

I feel like Billy's journey circles around Survivor's Guilt. If the show explored the avoidence of death with its more experienced witches, it also explored what it means to survive with Agatha and Nicky, and Billy and Tommy. Basically encouraging Billy to move forward, because at the end of the day, he didn't choose this power. He didn't knowingly make the road to kill those witches. But it happened, he survived, and all he can do now is move forward with the knowledge that he has to be better.

[@nicsnort]

I liked the ending over all. I do agree that its resolution is a bit weak compared to other episodes but I think that is mostly how Billy turned heel and just accepted Agatha after trying to banish her for me. I wish they would have a spent a bit more time resolving Agatha's plot threads (why her mother thought her born evil, who Nick's father is, how she fell in love with death, etc.) but they could be saving those for other shows. I think this will get a season 2 (or they are hoping for one) or be revisited in a Wiccan/Young Avengers series. I do think that Agatha did have a bit of a plan with giving her life up for Billy - I think she wants him to do what he did for Tommy and put her spirit in another body. This is definitely a solid third place on my ranking of Marvel shows with Loki and Wandavision ahead of it.

[@abrawolf]

Theres supposed to be a Wiccan show in the works apparently, so I'd assume it would serve as a season 2/3 to this. I'd imagine they're going to cover children's crusades, but im hoping they close some ends on this show

[@zenithquasar9623]

When Agatha said "I made you from scratch", I wonder if Nicholas was some sort of immaculate birth...(ie: something supernatural). I kind of wish Agatha was not super resolved of her crimes, and be a light hearted ghost where she gets to just hang out with Billy!

[@nicsnort]

@@zenithquasar9623 Maybe. It suppose it doesn't really matter in the comics his father is unknown as well - though suspected to be a demon! But Nick also isn't dead in the comics so *shurg* probably doesn't matter for the show

[@celestinebuendia]

The way I interpreted Billy banishing Agatha, and it’s sort of supported by the showrunner’s comments on the scene, that it was out of anger about her callousness on the situation and an emotional response to him learning he led his friends to his deaths on the road and she knew all along (haha). It was something desperate he did out of pain, but was brought back to the reality of it when he saw Agatha’s real pain. He really takes accountability for his part in it, as he does making the memorial, and feels a connection with Agatha, something that he’s been kind of fighting against the whole show but comes to terms with and accepts with this final argument and resolution. I took it as something he didn’t really want to do, was just extremely angry at her posturing and air of uncaring, so when he actually got the real truth out of Agatha about not being able to face Nicky, he got what he actually wanted in that moment. Showrunner describes it as him just being a person that will always feel empathy when another person is in pain.

[@nicsnort]

@@celestinebuendia Yeah, I get that. I just thought it was a little rushed, they could have spent a bit more time for a some silence as things calm down or something like that to show the shift and acceptance.

[@AMoniqueOcampo]

I REALLY hope that there will be a Season 2. This show was amazing. Also, being a hobgoblin fits for spooky season.

[@Cangeltibon]

This works as the season 2 to WandaVision, and the season 3 will be VisionQuest

[@nolitimeremessorem]

Ending was a mess but it was a very interesting mess which honestly I love. No easy answers, it fits Agatha's personality really.

[@robertstull8759]

I'm not sure that "the show" blames Billy for the deaths, merely that he blames himself and that Agatha is willing to let him keep that guilt so that she can use it. She's talked repeatedly about getting used to feeling guilty while still doing shitty things. She's trying to manipulate him. It'd be interesting to see how Jen would react to the finding out Billy created the The Road and how she'd react to him blaming himself for their deaths. The problem is that we only get two character's reactions to that reveal so we have a very limited view on how "the show" overall wants the viewer to feel about Billy's culpability.

[@amourtabb7859]

I also really like that Agatha is just a bad person. I kept thinking she was gonna give up on her quest for power, we would find out that she didn't kill witches on purpose, and realize the power of friendship. The show constantly kept me on my toes every time I thought she was gonna do the right thing but didnt. Even that her soft spot for Billy doesn't always sway her.

[@JeshuaSquirrel]

I loved this whole series. And I am satisfied with how this chapter of Billy's life is wrapping up. This whole story has been about emotional journeys for everyone involved. Sharon got one last adventure. Alice got to break the family curse and die protecting people. Lilia got to understand her existence and see herself for who she is. Jen found her power. Agatha had to deal with a part of her past and start accepting her son's death. And Billy got to realize his power and potential. I like how the legend of the witch's road starting as a song that people let grow as they shared the story. I don't think Agatha encouraged the legend but took advantage of it. And Billy has his question, "Am I William or Billy?" and he recognizes that Agatha is widely misunderstood like Wanda and he are.

[@naunga9450]

One way I could see the order of the final episodes make sense is if the flashback portion of episode 9 is the moment that Agatha’s mind opened to Billy right before she died. So what we see is Billy processing those memories and them making it clear that HE created The Road. Kinda explains Billy’s dreamy demeanor before Agatha’s ghost appears.

[@ProdCritic]

I disagree on the theme being grief. I think it not subtly is about resurrection. Wandavision was about how people deal with grief. This was about how people transform themselves. Some people might reveal their true sexual identity (Billy). Some people fail at their jobs lose everything & build themselves back up (Jen). Some people are addicts overcoming an addiction (Agatha). Some people d*e before they can get to change (Alice) and for some who are lucky enough to live long enough it’s about learning to embrace the end (Lilia). Also the final “statement” of the show is that if you are lucky enough to undergo a personal transformation and survive, while you might feel alone starting over you carry with you the “spirit” of people who sacrificed to help you grow e.g. a sponsor for addiction, or friends who supported you coming out, a parent who worked a hard job to give you a better chance etc…

[@catdragon2584]

I kind of interpreted Billy accidentally being the cause of the others’ deaths as him having more in common with Wanda than maybe he wanted to admit. He created the Road by accident much in the same way Wanda created the Hex, and those creations were beautiful but also led to harming people in ways that neither of them intended. Now that I think of how many questions were left unanswered (How did Agatha and Rio fall in love? How is Jen the path forward? Is he William or is he Billy?), I’m leaning towards the assumption that this was something of a season finale rather than a series finale. Loved the show, and I can’t wait to see what’s next for these characters!

[@janmelantu7490]

It’s a point of contrast with Wanda. Wanda spent so much time trying to keep her family alive/bring them back-all for _selfish_ reasons. Billy is actually reckoning with the hurt he caused. Memorializing those that died on the road is something Wanda never did with the Hex.

[@jvcscasio]

My read is that Billy takes responsability for his powers in a way his mom never did

[@ourabouras]

I really enjoyed the structure of the final two episodes, we got out big Marvel battle but, as you said, it wasn’t the typical army of faceless/expendable NPCs, I think one of the greatest strengths of this show is that it all mattered. ALL of the character’s deaths mattered, it was a very personal show. And watching Agatha grow and refine her legend was ::chefs kiss:: Honestly the reveal the Billy had created the road was Keyser Söze levels of awesome.

[@anvalisok]

Agatha is thrilled that she used no incantation and created Nicholas from scratch. Did she create him non-biologically/normal way or did she create him like Wanda created Billy and Tommy? Thus Billy reminds her of Nicholas.

[@zenithquasar9623]

Yeah, definitely supernatural. She actually "created" him.

[@zetizahara]

People will interpret it differently, but I read it as she said she did not use any magic in bringing him into the world. There’s no indication that she has power on the order or of the type that Wanda had to be able to do that sort of thing anyway.

[@gatomon2002]

At first i thought it was the old fashion way biologically 😂 but then there was an interview with Kathryn Hahn, she said witches dont need men etc. im wondering if is referring to not using magic she stole and that it was a pure immaculate conception

[@luxordtimet]

Rio cutting the backdrop to leave the road felt like it was just Aubrey being her chaotic self

[@tjfrizzi5965]

Billy & especially Agatha are shown as flawed and basically human deep down. They do "bad things", each for many reasons but they're not just uncaring sociopaths. So in the end they make each other better by being together. Imo Although Agatha was totally gonna leave Billy to be taken by Rio. Like I said, they're FLAWED! 😊

[@brianchristyb]

I feel like there is some resolution, just not as much as we would like. Billy has come into his power, and understands more of who he is, and while he doesn't have his brother back he now possess the tools to go out and find him. It feels like the second part of a trilogy, which makes perfect sense. The story has many parts unresolved, but that's for the next series to handle. What stick out in my mind, is Lady Death motioning to Nicky to give his mother a goodbye kiss. So sweet.

[@poomar]

I'm about to binge both the series and your reviews this weekend. I took a couple days off work for Halloween and I figured this would be a fun watch.

[@kivimik]

Billy's response to the deaths he indirectly caused is quite different to Wanda's reaction to her treatment of the Westview residents. Part of that could be their upbringing. Billy spent more time with William's parents than Wanda, and had a supportive boyfriend. Wanda, on the other hand, was torn from her parents by Stark bombs and essentially raised by Hydra.

[@AceOfSevens]

I think the idea is what Agatha really wanted was someone to agree that she just did what she had to. Being thought of as evil really bothers her because she thinks anyone else would have done the same in her circumstances. She didn't quite Billy to agree, but he also did some horrible things to survive. His ability to recognize the harm he caused shows that he moved through this & is morally way better developed than Agatha or Wanda. It's really about how people with no social supports get backed into a corner and the different ways they deal with it. I liked they did this without the show actually taking Agatha's side on this issue.

[@bridget7539]

Billy and Eddie tell each other they love each other and make out. Rio and Agatha make references to their past relationship, Rio calls her "my love", and they make out. There's a lot of random jokes about being queer. The MCU in general is pretty sexless. Idk how much more overt they could have gotten.

[@ricg7675]

It would've nice to see Sharon have her moment with Death. Agatha being the one who bound Jen seemed an overcomplication but I get it allowed her the scene regaining her power.

[@Notmyday2009]

I thought it was odvious that she made that up. Jen couldn't accept she just wasted a century so she gave her spacegoat to let go what was holding her back. "She even say like you mean it" She needed to believe that there nothing holding her back. Because she the only one denying her power.

[@brettmajeske3525]

But did she? Or did she just trick Jen into thinking Agatha was responsible so Jen could break free?

[@ricg7675]

@@brettmajeske3525 also an option. But also why it is over-complicated.

[@JediMB]

When it was revealed that Agatha was responsible for Jen being stripped of her power, I just said out loud _"so it really was Agatha All Along."_ Also, the MCU's explanation for the Scarlet Witch's spell being referred to as a "Hex" was that the Westview anomaly was hexagonal in shape, so it was neat seeing that the imagery associated with Billy had a focus on pentagon and pentagram shapes instead. Granted, it remains to be seen if that will be revisited, given the common association with devil worship.

[@SilverScale.]

I loved the ending, it was poetic and well woven together with the rest of the story.

[@linusberggren6270]

big fan of how it was legitimately just Agatha All Along (hi!)

[@moonorphan]

I literally bawled my eyes out when Rio/Death came to get Nicky and she had him give Agatha a goodbye kiss. Maybe it's just from losing people I love, and wishing I could have just a little more time with them. I can understand wanting to do anything just for a few more years. And the song being their special traveling song made me think of playing with my own little ones and how deep that love is. It just hit a spot, I'm still crying a little while typing this thinking about that. Saying that... then we have Billy. He also would do anything to have his most precious person back and to have more time with him. His way also involved people dying, maybe not strictly because of him, but he definitely played an unwitting part in it. That's the tragedy of it. I like that Agatha pretty stayed an asshole, I love her best that way with moments of genuine empathy. I feel like she not only saw her own son in Billy, but maybe also herself. They both traveled a road of sorts to save their loved ones, and I think she appreciated his determination. It makes sense they'd ally together as two lone witches facing the various forms of being misunderstood and "other" together. I feel like out of all the Marvel titles, this really was the one best suited for queer storytelling. I mean, witches are a symbol of freedom from the patriarchy, sexuality, inner power, and family. As a queer person and a witch myself, I have found family in both of those communities (with a good deal of overlap). And I think, in my opinion, that's what that final scene really was. It was showing a type of found family and how with some empathy and compassion those bonds can bring the best out of us... we don't have to go through our trials in life alone. That there are people that make us upset, yet we love them, and with them we can reach our success. I'm still processing it all too, I know this is all over the place. I think this is the strongest overall show Marvel/Disney has given us. And I love the fuck out of it for being about overcoming grief, community, queerness in a way, and coming into our own power.

[@CalindaSharisse]

The thing that sticks in my head is that Agatha could only steal another witch's power if that witch attacked first. Going through her memories, the colors of magic were always the others striking first. Agatha is abrasive, manipulative, and cruel in her words, but the thing she is hated for is only possible if she is attacked. Is it ever stated what she did to have her original coven turn on her? Did she get the ability to steal power from the Darkhold? Was the betrayal she was going to be executed for her stealing the powers of her coven sisters? But that would have to mean her sisters attacked her first for her to steal their power.

[@mr_vision1984]

I loved the final episode. The slow realization that "The Ballad of the Witches' Road" began as a child's song akin to "Itsy Bitsy Spider" and then changed over years into a sort of dog whistle for attracting witches and then feeding off their power was, to me, very powerful. And then realizing that Agatha knew Billy was Wanda's son the whole time makes her early kindness toward him less misplaced and more deliberate. As far as the "message" behind making those deaths the result of Billy's magick, I think many queer folx share the experience of having people fall out of your life when you finally step into your truth/power. A lot of us put that on ourselves, the way Billy does, but sometimes that's just life. "If you want to be a witch, get used to this feeling." Being a witch is a queer spiritual practice and the grief of loss of connection to people we were once close to as we evolve and become is a constant companion--which is, metaphorically, what Agatha becomes for Billy in the end.

[@duk2112]

Billy blames himself because he cares a lot and has a good heart, but it isn’t his fault at all and Agatha does try sparingly to talk him through it. When Agatha says, “No Billy. Sometimes… boys die.” That had me crying. Especially knowing what happened to Nick

[@DrHarlequinn]

I was struck by Agatha being the most prolific serial killer in history, but also that she kind of wasn’t? In order for her to kill someone, they had to attack her. All the witches we see die, she goaded them into it, but they responded by attacking her, and they’re responsible for their own actions. She was mean, but they all *chose* violence. I imagine there were dozens of other covens who responded to her taunting by saying “Whatever, maybe you were a terrible guide,” and just… walking away. And she would be powerless to stop them. Maybe the real lesson of Agatha is that these violent delights lead to violent ends.

[@ixfalia]

I saw what Billy said about the responsibility for the deaths as making himself distinct from his mother and Agatha that he is a person who is willing to introspect and be accountable for his power, that he is a person who at least tries to be responsible with his powers. He is overturning generational trauma in this moment

[@moonkey2712]

I really liked that Agatha had made up the story of the road for her own selfish proposes, and so long ago that it had become legend. She was damn suprised when it actually appeared. (Also, the montage of her in different period outfits draining the other witches was great)

[@rwicks1746]

Personally felt that episode 8 was the real finale and Episode 9 is an elongated post credit scene. 1. This explains why no post credit scene. 2.they dropped both episodes In a weird way it really worked for me. But you have a lot of valid points also great review!

[@brettmajeske3525]

I think the point is that billy feels responsible, even though he really is not.

[@ArcticWolfe84]

There's meant to be a Wiccan tv show in the works, and Agatha All Along is technically the second in a trilogy of shows, with a Vision show next. So the story/characters are definitely going to be continuing on, even if we don't get an Agatha All Along season 2 (which I doubt). I thought the finale episodes were great. They'll continue along the road together as a mother who lost her son, and a son who lost his mother.

[@FrostCHNOS]

I think the time they spent on Nicky was warranted. If they had just shown him being taken away it wouldn't have had the emotional weight, it would have been almost like fridging him. Seeing how she very much loved him, but also immediately and consistently used him as a tool to lure in witches really made her character clear, and she didn't just "snap" and turn evil when her son died like so many marvel villains would, she would always be a witch-killer. But after that, the rest of the last episode was a little weak for me, but I'm very excited we get to keep Agatha for future series. Maybe she'll be the Young Avenger's magic Jarvis? lol

[@thekatinthehat2678]

My thematic reading is that Agatha is a Shakespearean tragic protagonist. Her tragic flaw is being contrarian- she resists the natural order of things, she resists the community that witches usually have with one another, she resists giving herself closure and catharsis (but not pleasure, lol). She resisted the ordinary structure of Marvel TV, even, to resist giving us viewers uncomplicated catharsis. (Which I loved, it was very Buffy’s Primeval/Restless ending season 4). What she views as her one weakness is her connection to Nicky and then to Billy, but in fact that connection to a young dreamer opened her up to learning new things. And learning those things- how to grow the dandelion from Jen, how to use a protection circle from Alice, when to trust divination from Lilia- that allowed her to resist the death Rio thought they’d agreed on, and go out on her own terms. She fully fulfilled their deal when Billy gave himself up, but she decided, actually, I don’t want to never kiss my girl again, I’m going to take that power if it kills me. And then, she resisted letting Rio be happy by becoming a ghost. It’s her own happiness that she’s denied herself there, as well. I totally expected Agatha to accept death and go with Rio to see Nicky and coparent him in the afterlife, but she resisted that tidy ending. She takes without giving and she says no and she refuses to be out of control, even when that’s actively bad for her. And in a small way, Billy and the coven opened her up to helping others, trusting in their power, trying to change herself. I agree with others that it’s much more of a season finale than series finale, and I think this is the reason why. Agatha isn’t ready to actually work on her tragic flaw, but maybe she is ready to mentor the queer youth through a quest that’s not about killing.

[@marielalara1202]

The whole thing is a trilogy. Wandavision, Agatha All Along, and Vision Quest.

[@Dunybrook]

I'm a fan of falling action in storytelling as it allows us to see how the characters have changed after the big climactic battle or whatever and this seemed to work well in that regard for the most part. I don't think we are supposed to like Agatha. She's not a hero or even a traditional villian or an anti-hero. She's a ruthless survivor. It's certainly an interesting character study if nothing else. For Billy it seems clear that he still wants to be a hero and is going to try to redeem himself and that's what is driving him. Lilia could see all their futures and obviousy felt that they were worth saving for one reason or another or eventually would be. Of the final trio, Jen might be the one that I'm most interested in, as she underwent quite a transformation. Hopefully we will see more of her in future of the MCU.

[@glitch84-]

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[@richardmaloneriki1811]

The Witches' Road was Weirdly the Witchy William, but the ballad was Agatha All Along 🤣

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

So it was Billy All Along who created the Witches Road. What amazing twist, its WandaVision all over again.

[@TheMsPetal]

My take: this whole series was more about trauma and the depth of psychological issues. In Agatha's case, is she really "a jerk," or is she a person who has narcissistic personality disorder complicated by childhood trauma?

[@DonMachado]

Agatha learned nothing. She's grown fond of Billy, but she was willing to throw him away when it was to her advantage. She got him to volunteer to go with Rio just like she said she would, and she was walking away when Billy asked her if this is what happened to Nicky. It was only then when she decided to come back. She is no less evil as a dead sidekick then she was for her entire life, until the day she died. Now she has influence over the one person that will rule over all of magic one day, I wonder if she already knows that. As for Billy; The saying goes, "Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." I foresee a lot of thrusting in Billy's future...

[@ryanalverick5146]

I sorta like the ending choosing to explore Agatha essentially post mortem, and leave it off on a note that this is the beginning of Wiccan's story. Death is the purview of ends and beginnings after all, and from Agatha's death, we have the birth of a new marvel hero in that sense. The choice for her to be his mentor as well I think is interesting because they are at moral odds. Agatha sees death as a necessity, a comfort, a lover. So she kills everyone around her to further her own survival. Yet contradicting she can never accept death because death robbed her of her son. Teen wants to redeem Agatha from being evil maybe not just out of fondness but because he himself cannot accept death either. He sees himself as Billy who killed William to survive, and he never receives a clear cut answer of yes or no if this isn't the case, he just has to sit with it. Even when he finds a new body for Tommy, his cry of "Am I killing someone to save Tommy" echoes this. But this is also where the dynamic is rather beautiful. When she says that somber line alone, of "Sometimes boys just die", she displays in this moment of acceptance and grief, something she must live with every day of her life. And something that her new protege will have to learn. Yet maybe he will continue to challenge her own world views, on death as a necessity for survival, and of isolation as power.

[@nancyjay790]

Just a comparison (Spoiler: Joss Whedon reference incoming). The final two episodes of Season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer did this too-- a big, all-out, special effects laden fight with that season's Big Bad, followed by an episode Buffy fans obsessed over which played with dreams and symbolism and revelations/clues about where the characters will go in the future. I've always theorized that every finale of a Buffy season could have served as the end of the show too. Each put the characters in a place where if everything ended, it was at a point where you could just accept it, even if you could see potential stories ahead. I personally feel that the best stories end where there's still potential for stories and other points of view. If absolutely every possibility has been squashed out of an idea, it's kind of lifeless by that point. Just a thought.

[@tacobowler]

Episode 8 was the finale, episode 9 was an epilogue (or 40 min post credit scene). I’m not sure if they could have done it any other way though.

[@JenniferFuss]

For a first reaction I find it fascinating that the reaction to what Wiccan did is so different to what Wanda did. Where Wanda didn't end anyone and had a strong reason with grief, Wiccans action did end 3 people and he hasn't had a reason like grief. Plus the idea that the show is about coming to terms with death runs into a bit of a problem with Agathas really massive death toll as displayed in the flashback. Same for the three deaths barely effecting anyone. For sure not Sharons passing. Like, supposedly those women had families?

[@rkmh9342]

If satisfaction with a plot implies satisfaction with the society it exemplifies, a story for witches must be plotted in an unsatisfactory manner, eh?

[@dsk1789]

The last episode really worked for me. I think it was more explanation on what actually transpired in the previous one which was the actual finale and kinda helped tie it all together thematically. It's both an explanation of Agatha's character and a warning for Billy. We find out who Agatha is all along - a woman who is suffering after loosing her son (the one living person she connected to, who was a miracle to her and she wanted desperately to keep) and who is isolated from the community, because she's been preying on it, but still feels guilty and ashamed even if she's not regretful about it, because it still gave her her son (that is to me kind of a big deal - it very clearly cements her in that simpathetic villain/anti-hero dynamic - from the way we see her cry for the body in the first episode it's clear she doesn't enjoy causing death, but will not hesitate to accomplish her goals and the campy disney villain act is a front that seems to sometimes prevail over a heart that is softer than stone and a soul kinder than what most would ever know). I really liked that "sometimes boys just die" moment. Everything about it. Agatha provoking Jen to take her powers back, then guiding Billy - it's the only time we see her give instead of steal. And the line itself for me ties the entire show together - sometimes death happens and there's nothing to be done about it even if it's unfair, even if you're powerful, even if you beg. As for Billy - not only does it show how alike to Wanda he is and that he should be careful with his power or he could hurt others, but a clear lesson of consequences - he wanted his brother so badly, he ended up hurting people even if it wasn't his intention - and in that he is like Agatha, because he is guilty, but I don't think he is remorseful. It's not just his power that's dangerous, but how far he would go to get what he wants and i don't think that's something he actually understood about himself before. Overall - fantastic show that looked good, sounded good, has great replayability. Realy got me in the feels. Clearly, given all the words 😅

[@angeliprimlani9389]

As to Billy’s guilt for creating the road: it’s very much like Wanda’s guilt for creating the Hex. She didn’t intend to hurt anyone and may not have fully understood what she had done at first but she can’t take back the harm she caused either. He is the son of the Scarlet Witch and he has her powers. It’s part of that legacy.

[@mangalores-x_x]

I see this show being alot better than Wandavision or Loki because it stands on its own with its acting and writing chops. The other shows only work within the MCU and have severe weaknesses. This is pretty unique and has the advantage of being its own small thing without needing any big connection to anything else.

[@HaroldElbowmanIV]

I like giving Billy the harsh truth about his power's potential early. Imagine if he didn't learn it. He can make a reality that binds him and other people with rules that can/will kill them. He should use it intentionally going forward. It's heroic stupidity that makes him blame himself for the deaths (2 willing sacrifices, and 1 oopsie-daisy [which I don't blame him for - maybe the gardner shouldn't have had two doses, maybe the potions witch should mind her dosages... neither is his fault, ultimately]) but that kind of stupidity makes people responsible in how they use their power, and provides opportunities for future catharsis, so I guess it has its uses. Being a witch according to Agatha involves breaking the rules and surviving a hostile world by means of your power. She seems to have mellowed by learning from Wiccan that it's also about sharing that power to help others in your community. The elder is about individual survival and the youth about collective effort. How very Queer this all is. Oh, and I'm looking forward to The Usual Suspects losing their shit at the Protect Trans Kids flag, and maybe the rocky horror poster, too... you never know.

[@rdrktr]

I thought the lesson of the show was about two characters attempting to reconcile the “road” they’ve built for themselves to reach their goals and the harms they cause others along the way due to their ambivalence regarding the structures they themselves created and reinforce through their ignorance. The climax and revelation of this is, for me, was the unbinding of Jennifer Kale, a not so subtle nod to slavery and the institutional racism that exists in society and is continuing to be supported by our own ambivalence. Then it was reinforced by the revelation that Billy created the road which killed off other characters.

[@bjam89]

I like the idea that her pendant is just floating there for everyone who isn't magic cos she picked it up as a ghost

[@terryknight5869]

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[@Soguwe]

What a brilliant end to the story Loki season 2 still stands a bit taller, but Agatha All Along is definitely a contender for the best thing Marvel has done since Infinity War. If it holds up on second viewing, it will be my favourite. What a sad, melancholic, beautiful tale. Certainly not for everyone. Would not have expected that from the follow-up to a meh show about Wanda

[@tonyjackson4078]

I think the ending was spectacular, because the whole underlying topic of AAA was agency. Every witch that went with Agatha wanted their agency back. Even Sharon, she just wanted a girls night out, to not be stuck tending the garden. Every character wanted agency. Billy wanted to know if he is William or Billy, Lilia wanted to be a witch, and not hide, Alice wanted to not live in fear of her family curse, and Jen wanted the power taken from her until she realized she gave it up, it was always hers to take back. Agatha is the biggest one as her child was taken by her lover, and her lover won't let her go. She's also bound to her con, she was taking power and after a while as habit. Finally she was stuck being cruel. She had a softer side, but in her quest she lost her own way. She wanted to never be helpless, and the end when she choses death, and as a ghost can't really search for power, she choses to help Billy, to finally put a pin in her last lingering bit of lost agency. If she helps Billy, she can face Nicholas in the Afterlife with less regret. She's still selfish, conniving, and arrogant...but she's doing something for her because she didn't get to be a good mother. By a side effect she is going to help someone in return.

[@TheEpicTone]

I think Billy is not supposed to feel like he has a full arc yet. It's not a decision I love, but it feels really intentional to me that he's left in this weird state of questioning, "am I a bad person, I didn't intend this, Iguess Ibetter find Tommy." I feel well get a more satisfying end to this character arc when he finds Tommy. While I don't love it, you bet I'll go watch whatever he's in next to see how his story arc resolves, though. I hope the success of this show shows Marvel that we need more like it.

[@johncattley5919]

I think my only issue with the prolonged flashback is that it gives information to the audience that Billy doesn’t have to work for. I never see the big twists coming, so I needed some time to settle with what it all meant that the road wasn’t this longstanding real thing.

[@tecjohnson]

I like the series but I thought....I don't know, the ending did not have enough of a resolution. All these characters died....for what? Agatha was this horrible evil person whil killed hundred and...it is ok, she now gets to be Billy's spiritual advisor. Wish there was more resolution for Agatha's character instead of just walking off into the sunset with Billy.

[@theraPISSED_1]

idk i feel like she kinda became her comic character so ot could be marvel trying to be more accurate

[@pckrichards7980]

That’s exactly what I’m feeling. It felt like there was a disconnect between the story as it was happening, and the way the characters were reacting emotionally. And therefore this arc didn’t feel satisfying because the actions and plot don’t line up. I actually felt the same way about wandavision, so I’m curious how much of this was studio interference

[@starvinggamer]

I agree with the lack of resolution but it’s kind of the middle chapter of the unexpected trilogy syndrome. The Maximoff trilogy if you will, where Wandavision felt like a complete thing all on its own but this feels pretty clearly made to be the first half of the complete story of the twins.

[@nalday2534]

You expected a marvel character to face consequences for her actions? Well then the joke's on you pal

[@zenithquasar9623]

"Agatha was this horrible evil person whil killed hundred and...it is ok, she now gets to be Billy's spiritual advisor." - yeah, this is the only point I actually hated.

[@rj86dr89]

If wandavision had the time and energy they put into agatha all along, wandavision would have been more amazing than it already was. Jac schafer actually studied agathas comics origins and it shows.

[@TwinRiver100]

2:43 i assume the open end-edness was to give puzzle pieces for Marvel at large so they can stick the results of this anywhere they need it to be as well as take any of the details that happened her and give them as writing threads to whoever maybe relevant for whatever the next stages of Marvel as they currently are filming stuff this phase.

[@Ironorchids]

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[@WhitneyAllisonGG]

I think with Billy and Agatha with the death of Witches and maybe the causes of it. You see two different reactions from the cause of the death. Agatha Harkness doesn't have any remorse for the deaths she caused. Billy well when his realixe he cause death of Witches he has regret. As for Tommy and well the boy is going die from hazing anyway. I bring that up because I don't think Billy is responsible but he will feel guilty about it. Even though Billy didn't create the situation but he did benefit from it. Epilogue episode 9 I think is more of context of who is Agatha and her magic absorbing ability is. In WandaVision we could say she discover by accident and it was tragic but it wasn't her fault. The montage show us she is deliberate and I showing us was more important than telling us. One of the biggest questions was Nicholas Scratch and did Agatha traded her son for the Darkhold.

[@Nariasan]

Part of me is hoping there's another episode somewhere... (this comment is mostly for the engagement gods, since I'm brain dead today. Thanks for the video!)

[@zenithquasar9623]

Maybe in the Witches' Road.

[@4203105]

This ending hit pretty damn hard for me. Maybe they draged out the very end a bit long. But I'd really have to nitpick at that point.

[@zekewalker1350]

I love that my good sis got free of the road and got her powers back. She deserves!

[@bazbloodwolf]

The structure reminds me of how they often do comics story arcs. Basically the big battle happens and then there is an epilouge issue that is a cool down before the next arc. I agree, I'm not sure how well the structure works in this format. I didn't hate it personally, but your mileage may vary.

[@shortangel333]

considering it is part 2 in a trilogy of mini series I don't mind it.

[@nolipgloss1343]

It was Agatha all along who created the witches road so she didn’t have to waste time looking for them 😂

[@TimothyCollins]

This is all head canon and I have no idea if Marvel wanted to say this or not... Wiccan strikes me as a combination of Wanda and Agatha and that is because Wanda might have created him but Agatha meddled in it. So he is a bit of both. He creates realities like Wanda and uses others like both. But he does have a bit of a moral core that Wanda had (has?) and maybe Agatha has a bit of. As such this show felt like a pretty complete intro for the character of Wiccan. Also... in the penultimate episode I liked the "Is that all I get?" line to Death. I see what you're doing there Marvel - the nod to Sandman didn't slip by.

[@shannonchristie-wickham8453]

I believe billy conjured the witches road because he was so scared from the attack of the salem seven on the house. I think it was just out of that fear and him having that ability from his mom, that he was able to create that as an escape from the danger

[@superkid801]

Good thoughts. I quite enjoyed it. I would definitely watch this again especially around October . It was different learning Agatha's past in the last episode nice change up. I had a good time with this one.

[@ryanalverick5146]

Forgot to put this in my last comment as well, but the moral ambiguity in the ending really elevates the series for me. The show could have very easily told Billy that "oh no, of course you didn't kill William, in fact both souls have mixed and merged together and you're an entirely new person!" And even Agatha, during Billy's spiral, tells him very reasonably "Hey kid, I was the one who killed Alice, Lillia chose to sacrifice herself to take down the Salem 7" and really only lacks an answer for Ms. Hart But instead Billy is challenged to look at his actions, conscious or not, and make the decision of whether or not he will take responsibility. For me this is Multiverse of Mayhem done well. Instead of Wanda constantly justifying her actions in a frankly ridiculous strawman while committing visually fun but heinous atrocities, Billy is forced to look at the complexities of his actions, and chooses that while he will live with them, he will not justify them. He doesn't succumb to Agatha's "this is what it means to be a witch" mentality, but he does not fully disregard her either. It is in many ways a more nuanced look on heroicism than Marvel's other attempts, it paints a messy picture that Billy and the audience has to sit with, and I personally LOVE that. He HAS to live with the consequences of his actions, and he chooses not to shy away from it. He continues on his path understanding his mistakes, and in a hopeful interpretation, breaking the cycle and becoming MORE than Agatha and Wanda who chose to believe that their actions necessitated a base level of violence as cost On the flip side, the Agatha flashback with Nicholas, to me, is most interesting in the creation of the Ballad. How it starts as a song that ties Agatha and Nicki. It's their song, it's the tune that they work on together, made without magic, from "scratch". It's what comforts Nicholas when he can't quite stomach his mother's actions towards witches. And it's what Agatha uses to express her love. The song becomes completely recontextualized, just like in Alice's trial. It becomes a love song from mother to child. And in this same way, it makes what Agatha does with it WAY, WAY WORSE. She twists the song into the con that continues to kill covens at a time, to gain her power. And while I think it's undeniable that she might do this in a way to remain close to him (relive their con artist days, to sing his song again in a coven, the fact that she hums it idly, etc etc) she also acknowledges the thought that she believes Nicholas will NEVER forgive her for this very act. It's heart wrenching, it's horrible and evil of her, and I do LOVE Agatha for that. She becomes, to me, more human and more monstrous than ever given the full context and confirmation

[@kidflash2fan]

So the to the ending Of Billy blaming himself i think is a way they can showcase his comic book Crippling Depression. Billy cares if he is a good person hurting people and the idea that a want he of his got two decent people killed is something he would loathe about himself even if he didn't realize that he was the force behind it until after the fact. I also have a strong feeling that Agatha is going to fill the kid Loki role of feeding into that thought process in the next few projects they are in together. Comicbook boyfriend Teddy is his steadying rock as he's so good for Billy that it keeps him grounded and shows there are things that i could never make from my mind because they are too good.

[@keithredacted8154]

I am just SO SO glad this shoiw stuck the laning for me and many others. This show was just spectacular and I'm so happy it's a show with lots of representations that is getting considered as Marvel doing soemthing right. Gives me hope for the future.

[@RSOULIER75]

I really like the serie. It was first showing how redemption is hard to earn to do. How to break the cycle of abuse, changing habbit etc. Agatha is not good but try to be better. It is a long way ahead this her unfinished business, being capable of facing her son so she can tell him :see mama became a better person help people. She need to be better because she spend her life running away survives but never really lived