Agatha just dropped the best episode in the MCU

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@tgs9929
@tgs9929 2 ай бұрын
"I loved being a witch" had so much emotion and so many emotions all at once. Such a good use of a talent like Patti Lupone.
@djanthaz
@djanthaz 2 ай бұрын
Facts! Patti delivered that line with such pain, joy, and passion. Loved it.
@ken54525
@ken54525 2 ай бұрын
before ep7, i see comments saying they are wasting patti's talents and should have made her song. after the ep, we now know why she was perfect for this role. not wasted at all.
@censheard7019
@censheard7019 2 ай бұрын
Patti absolutely proved why she’s the godmother of broadway because i can only think of like 5 other ppl in the industry that could have nailed that line so perfectly. But wow am I glad it was Patti 🙂‍↕️
@donnieuchiha
@donnieuchiha 2 ай бұрын
The tears came at this line. I couldn’t believe how emotionally charged it was. What a line, what a character, what an episode
@donnydarko47
@donnydarko47 Ай бұрын
and the scream from jen... so perfect
@angelgaming1987
@angelgaming1987 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s really telling that the MCU’s best projects are the ones that take risks
@Jay-dn2fc
@Jay-dn2fc 2 ай бұрын
THIS!
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 2 ай бұрын
Also trusting the writing team. WV had best ending, a perfect pay off to all those cryptic ads. Because those were msg by Strange but due to prioritizing politics over good story telling the finale got ruined. Then the empty MoM. Let the writers do what they good at.
@GBurnzy
@GBurnzy 2 ай бұрын
​@@Vor567tezbeen a while since I watched wandavision... What are the politics that they prioritized?
@stupatt
@stupatt 2 ай бұрын
@@Vor567tezI think it was a bit more than to trust the writers, Covid played a huge part, the finale wasn’t ruined but some connective tissues and set ups for mom spoiled a few things. It’s forgivable within the context of the time frame
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 2 ай бұрын
@@GBurnzy Not having Strange appear because Feige didn't wanted a white man to rescue a woman.
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id 2 ай бұрын
This episode was insanely cool, it flawlessly mixed the "lets follow this one character for an entire episode" trope with the "lets tell this story out of order" trope.
@stupatt
@stupatt 2 ай бұрын
@@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id yup!!! Anyone with a brain and flair for the technical aspects that were employed here will know this episode was something else!!! It’s no mean feat to pull an episode like this off and it was expertly done!!!! Like it’s up there with the others who done this well!!!
@brandcamacho2899
@brandcamacho2899 2 ай бұрын
that shot of lilia falling is just so beautiful and dramatic
@jonoave
@jonoave 2 ай бұрын
Also compare the expression on her between both falls. The opening scene she was terrified and trying to grab something. The closing one was of acceptance and contentment of her face
@tuananhdang7385
@tuananhdang7385 2 ай бұрын
gwen stacy moment
@InimitableAde
@InimitableAde 2 ай бұрын
​@@jonoave came to say this vary thing! Good catch, Discerning One 👍🏿
@Edson07bs
@Edson07bs 2 ай бұрын
Dumbledore could never
@sarcasticsid5589
@sarcasticsid5589 Ай бұрын
And as fell she never dropped her crown...a queen to the end👑!!! I loved her character.
@middenway
@middenway 2 ай бұрын
Glinda tells Dorothy how to leave Oz. Lilia sacrifices herself so the others can get to the end of the Witch’s Road and leave.
@julianxamo7835
@julianxamo7835 2 ай бұрын
Hey Mark
@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831
@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831 2 ай бұрын
Also, she gives Agatha the courage to betray death (as she says something about “flipping the deck when she makes fun of you” or something. At the very least, it’s courage to do something risky). She gave Jen a heart (by making her care more, as seen by here not leaving the trail first and them having a heart to heart). And she gives Billy his brain. (His book). Courage, a heart and a brain. Just like in the wizard of Oz
@davescrams
@davescrams 2 ай бұрын
@@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831 I think she tells Agatha to "hit the deck" when "she calls you a coward." I believe that's going to be very direct. At some point, I believe Rio will call her a coward, Agatha will go prone, and something will explode above her or come crashing across.
@larynOneka8080
@larynOneka8080 2 ай бұрын
I love how Lilia gives them all something like the wizard did at the end the film.
@middenway
@middenway 2 ай бұрын
@@julianxamo7835 Hey! 👋
@tonyjackson4078
@tonyjackson4078 2 ай бұрын
I went into AAA thinking "I like Hahn and Plaza, that'll be fun at least". I had no idea what is turning into a new Holloween Classic. It's spooky and dark, is smart enough to know when to dial back the humor, and most of all, it's interesting characters who happen to be gay, not gay people as poorly written characters.
@JakeyJones
@JakeyJones 2 ай бұрын
Good luck with your sobriety and/or roadside insurance
@MetalED
@MetalED 2 ай бұрын
​@@JakeyJones luck be with roadside. Sobriety is one less A. Great comment tho'😅
@stevencooper564
@stevencooper564 2 ай бұрын
"...interesting characters who happen to be gay, not gay people as poorly written characters" This is exactly what I've appreciated most about this. He's not an offensive stereotype, he's like half the gay guys I know, lol.
@stamatiskon3049
@stamatiskon3049 2 ай бұрын
@@JakeyJones For a moment I thought he was talking about batteries...
@helenejapa
@helenejapa 2 ай бұрын
EXACTLY! Is this the "gayest" MCU project? Yes. Probably. But they're all well-written. The characters s3xuality isn't their main personality trait (even for Teen, which I really thought it would be, before the show started).
@beingilluminous
@beingilluminous 2 ай бұрын
My fiancé and I actually were in tears. For us it reminded us of working with our elders who lost their minds to dementia. The “statement through the timelines” the fact she was saying one sentence and only fragments came through in each scene was so cool when they stitched it back together.
@msjigglypuff91
@msjigglypuff91 2 ай бұрын
I cried as well thinking of my grama who has dementia before she died. Such a great episode!
@beingilluminous
@beingilluminous 2 ай бұрын
@@msjigglypuff91 💐 thank you for sharing! And blessings on that special relationship!
@miguelj4555
@miguelj4555 2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad they went this deep with a character played by Patti Lupone. This episode surprised me in the best ways possible.
@Vi_Vi_1
@Vi_Vi_1 2 ай бұрын
I was a little afraid they'd waste her but omg I have been so pleasantly surprised, she has been amazing, and this episode was a masterpiece.
@nguyenquoctoan6354
@nguyenquoctoan6354 2 ай бұрын
@@Vi_Vi_1 I haven't watched her other works before but her acting in the divining session of episode 6 really sold it to me. I was in awe seeing how she used minimal eye movement, took tiny pauses between each sentences and made her voice slightly different when Lilia lied to William. Especially comparing to the scene in episode 2 where she lied to Agatha because she knew who Agatha really is, and this time she lied because she was tried to make William feel at ease despite seeing his grim future, which probably shocked Lilia herself too. Since then, I totally had believed that her episode would be phenomenal. And now after episode 7, I think I will have to watch all of her other works too.
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 Ай бұрын
@@nguyenquoctoan6354 dude, Patti is a legend on Broadway. Stage actors are a different beast. 👑
@daneroberts1996
@daneroberts1996 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying since Multiverse of Madness did Wanda dirty, Jac Schaeffer needs to be given the reins for the witchy side of the MCU! She has a real talent for the kind of mysterious, kooky stories and complex characters you can do with that
@arain764niara
@arain764niara 2 ай бұрын
Wandavision was such a great show and character growth and they literally threw it out with that trash movie
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 2 ай бұрын
@@arain764niara The movie never threw out any character growth.
@VendettaPSC
@VendettaPSC 2 ай бұрын
If Wanda gets more work on the TV side, I too would be stoked to hear Jac got to do it. She handled AAL and its many characters with a grace more of the characters in the MCU need. Wanda especially since she's such a complex character that comes with many different motivations and values compared to so many others within the Marvelverse. Agatha had no business being this good.
@caffeineman4584
@caffeineman4584 3 күн бұрын
​​@@johnman8398yes it did. The end of wandavision taught wanda that she cant sacrifice the innocent for her comfort And what did she try doing for the entire movie?
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 3 күн бұрын
@@caffeineman4584No it didn't. That's not the end of WV the actual end of WV has her reading the Darkhold and hearing the voices of her 2 children.
@catmcc3464
@catmcc3464 2 ай бұрын
Patti Lupone *killed* it. And without singing a note.
@jonkung
@jonkung 2 ай бұрын
But she did sing “Down The Witches Road” with everyone.
@Jays6926
@Jays6926 2 ай бұрын
I think they mean this episode.
@donnydarko47
@donnydarko47 Ай бұрын
shes such a queen
@Aspharon
@Aspharon 2 ай бұрын
11:20 Apparently what happened was that Jac pitched a few different ideas for shows, and they all included Agatha, so they were like "Well, if you've got so many ideas for her, how would you do a show centered on her?" Turns out that was a great question to ask.
@erix372
@erix372 2 ай бұрын
Re: Jen losing her magic. It’s been made a point a couple times that she doesn’t know how she was bound without magic. Then in this episode, Lilia describes Jen as the High Priestess, who has “immense spiritual power, unable or unwilling to” use their magic. Perhaps Jen was traumatized and “bound” herself, and never actually truly lost her magic.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 ай бұрын
That would also make sense with the wizard of oz theme that was going on with the wicked witch and good witch costumes for agatha and lilia. A magical journey through an unfamiliar land only to find out that you had what you were looking for all along
@kks2360
@kks2360 2 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw that Jen’s traumatic event in the Water Trial was a white male dr in old timey garb, and then she mentioned the part about him not using magic, I realized she had bound herself. It parallels what happens in the real world when people in power take from less powerful people, be it physically, emotionally, spiritually; you either become a victim “bound” in your powerlessness or you become a survivor, and many times, more powerful than before. In both cases, the power to bind or to empower comes from the story, the narrative we are telling ourselves. It’s something that always comes from within. People can help, or not help us on our “path”, but the outcome is always determined by ourselves.
@cxbees
@cxbees 2 ай бұрын
​@@kks2360 yes !! I was a lil hesitant to hope that Jen was gonna be fleshed out further than just sorta gesturing at her being a survivor, but the whole "path ahead" and "unable or unwilling" thing (and also how goddamn well this episode handled talking about women aging) has me actually quite hopeful that this has been an intentional meditation on survivors of violence. it's really just... so lovely to see a show celebrating Jen's rage and survival. even tho they're killing people left and right, it seems clear at this point that her arc is going to be about there still being a vast and worthwhile life for her on the other side of an immensely traumatic event.
@Blast2224
@Blast2224 2 ай бұрын
This would make sense as Jen was portrayed as "The Evil Queen" from Snow White. But NOT in her beautiful form, but the crone she turned herself INTO in order to appeal to Snow White. Jen bound herself into THIS state so she could "appeal" to non magical people and sell her skincare products. She hurt her OWN potential. As Myrtle Snow from AHS would say, "You've forsaken your destiny..."
@gavino299
@gavino299 2 ай бұрын
I've been saying that to anyone who will listen since her trial. I believe she represents anyone who is traumatized and "binds" their individual magic within themselves via self-sabotage and other forms of trauma response. Thank you for making me feel like I'm not crazy for thinking this! I cannot wait to see this revealed as I mentioned this weeks ago on another channel's video and not a single person left a comment agreeing. Lol
@Rndmnpc004
@Rndmnpc004 2 ай бұрын
The whole episode felt like a movie. It even has a lot of cinematic shots you wouldn’t normally expect from a show. Reminded me of Loki’s last episode. It’s crazy that this $50M budget while Secret Invasion got over $200M.
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 2 ай бұрын
honestly i think big portion of that 200mill in secret invasion went to pocket of Samuel L. Jackson
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 ай бұрын
And not only did it rival or surpass Loki's last episode in terms of spectacle, the spectacle actually had substance compared to loki
@Mishiman69
@Mishiman69 2 ай бұрын
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 okay this is a bit of a reach
@SlightyLessEvolved
@SlightyLessEvolved 2 ай бұрын
​@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868I really liked this episode too, but I don't think that's fair to the Loki season finales, especially season 2.
@chrisf5828
@chrisf5828 2 ай бұрын
​@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 No point downing a masterpiece to elevate another masterpiece. Marvel has a number of beautiful sacrifice stories including Natasha, Stephen Grant's Classic Loki (1x07) and Tony Stark and the greatest moments are Loki Finale and Patti Lupone in Agatha 1x07. I would not rank the two because they are different.
@jessicagrant24
@jessicagrant24 2 ай бұрын
I thought Caldaru as Glenda is a reference to the episode. She doesn’t go on the journey, she helps others on their journey.
@skzip888
@skzip888 2 ай бұрын
Billy as Maleficent: an uninvited guest who puts a birthday girl to sleep, vs an uninvited guest in an unconcuous bar mitzvah boy''s body. Jen as the Evil Queen: pretty much both poisened thier customers in an effort to be the fairest. Liiia as Glinda: both Burke and Chenoweth play her as someone who comes off as iinaffectual and complacent but ends up knowing excatly what's going on, like Lilia at the end of her trial.
@violetlavi2207
@violetlavi2207 2 ай бұрын
Also Glinda set Dorothy on her path initially, and Lilia wrote the list of names for the coven! Not to mention her act of sacrifice to save them from the Salem Seven mirrors Glinda saving Dorothy from certain death in the poppy field
@jeanjeudy9769
@jeanjeudy9769 2 ай бұрын
Besides the amazing buildup and explanation of her "slips", Patti really sold me on understanding Lillia's love: Her love for her old coven which continues to haunt her after not being able to save them Her love for Alice who who died because of Agatha Her love for Jen, her sister in the craft and has great potential Her love for Billy and the hardship he will face around his origin and power Her love for her new coven, including Agatha, who have helped her understand herself Her love for their future and giving them the "gifts" she bestows on them at the end Her love and pride for being a witch and the enlightenment she has learned over the years and ultimately a love and respect for Death which lies at the end for all of us. With that understanding and bravery she sacrifices herself for them.
@donslyuckus
@donslyuckus 2 ай бұрын
this episode literally blew my mind. my expectations of this show were mostly even keeled but this was so masterful and had no reason to go so hard. if all marvel shows had a consistency of quality like Agatha then maybe the mcu would be in a better state. like wow
@Vi_Vi_1
@Vi_Vi_1 2 ай бұрын
It's crazy when you see this level of quality story telling and you wanna grab them and go "I KNOW you guys are capable of greatness!! Look at this masterpiece!"
@ChinchillaDave
@ChinchillaDave 2 ай бұрын
Lilia as the good witch is that literal, she is a good witch, she is a good person with good intent
@JustMe-dc6ks
@JustMe-dc6ks 2 ай бұрын
And a helper.
@davescrams
@davescrams 2 ай бұрын
I agree that it's this straightforward. She spent what may have been centuries being chased out of villages for accurately predicting catastrophe before hiding herself away. She needed to remember that she's a good witch and a good person.
@Lavacrust
@Lavacrust 2 ай бұрын
Everyone who wrote off this show needs to submit their apology forms by next episode
@chrischristensen6779
@chrischristensen6779 2 ай бұрын
the reactionaries have been real quiet since this episode (actual for a few weeks)
@eason5167
@eason5167 2 ай бұрын
Schrödinger's reactionary/grifter: cry that a show is "woke" and terrible for asinine reasons before it even releases. If the show turns out to be bad, claim you were right all along and act like a prophet. If the show is actually good, pretend you never made that video to begin with and go back to whining about shows that were bad in the past.
@MaybeAnnatar
@MaybeAnnatar 2 ай бұрын
Genuinely, I wasn't writing it off for reactionary reasons. The trailers just didn't speak to me and I thought it didn't look good. But God damn I'm glad I went in with an open mind.
@Bleepurchin
@Bleepurchin 2 ай бұрын
@@chrischristensen6779depends where yr looking. I strongly disagree.
@lordhughmungus
@lordhughmungus 2 ай бұрын
Nah I'm good. I don't care about whatever "wokeness" grifters are crying about, the show just looks uninteresting.
@justinehercthehuman
@justinehercthehuman 2 ай бұрын
This episode just pushed Agatha All Along as my new favorite MCU show.
@thebishna
@thebishna 2 ай бұрын
Give Jac Schaeffer the keys to the kingdom. This show is so good. Go Jac, make a Children's Crusade. Make a Midnight Sons. Make anything, I will watch.
@Bryan_Dizz
@Bryan_Dizz 2 ай бұрын
Atp Jac is the only one I trust with The Children's Crusade adaptation
@johnelmartagbago3764
@johnelmartagbago3764 2 ай бұрын
I agree with smaller stories like Children's Crusade. But Midnight Sons need a different tone and approach.
@stalematesibling
@stalematesibling 2 ай бұрын
Ill give her Children's crusade, young avengers and the scarlet witch movie.
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 2 ай бұрын
She is doing well with these mystery, witchy stories. Let her have the responsibility of MCU's supernatural side.
@davescrams
@davescrams 2 ай бұрын
@@johnelmartagbago3764 I am so afraid that they'll give Midnight Sons to Sam Raimi. I'd pick Jac's tone over Sam's for that group. I like Evil Dead, but that would be a terrible tone for Midnight Sons. I'd actually love to see what Jordan Peele would do with it tbh.
@joshuasgameplays9850
@joshuasgameplays9850 2 ай бұрын
The franchise movies and shows about random side characters that not a lot of people really care about are always the best ones, I've been saying this for years. It's just like you said, if they're making a show about the twist villain from WandaVision, there must be an actual story they want to tell, because it's obviously not a cash grab. And because they don't have a big brand to protect, they're able to be more risky and experimental. Nobody who wasn't already a big Marvel fan had heard of the Guardians of the Galaxy before 2014. The best Star Wars thing in YEARS was a Disney+ show about a side character from a side movie who's already dead. I'm so glad Disney is willing to go in this direction.
@laceisaverb
@laceisaverb 2 ай бұрын
Even Iron Man and the Avengers were sort of B-list heroes before Marvel made them big! The only people who cared about Iron-Man and the Avengers before 2008 were comic book nerds, that's why Marvel never sold the movie rights to those characters, nobody wanted them until Marvel made them cool!
@SlightyLessEvolved
@SlightyLessEvolved 2 ай бұрын
This is an excellent point.
@bergamt
@bergamt 2 ай бұрын
There has been some speculation that Lilia was dressed as Glinda because the gifts/advice she gives at the end are Wizard-of-Oz-ish? Courage for Agatha, brains for Billy, and heart for Jennifer. Though that's not a thing that Glinda does, it's at least a parallel.
@violetlavi2207
@violetlavi2207 2 ай бұрын
Glinda also assists Dorothy on her journey and sets her on the path (Lilia wrote the list of names) and saves her from certain death (Lilia sacrificed herself to save them from the Salem Seven)
@BlackLotus2077
@BlackLotus2077 2 ай бұрын
This episode and Loki’s S2 finale are just too damn good. They feel creative, fresh and WELL-WRITTEN
@avalecto
@avalecto 2 ай бұрын
this episode took the show from "wow this is good" to "oh my god"
@edwardscales5503
@edwardscales5503 2 ай бұрын
The use of 'time in a bottle' was so effective, I stayed all the way through the credits!
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez 2 ай бұрын
It hits right on the spot. Lilia throughout her life wished to do exactly that. Control the time. 💘
@heyitsmira17
@heyitsmira17 2 ай бұрын
I started to have a breakdown in tears when I heard it
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 ай бұрын
Me too!
@breawycker
@breawycker 2 ай бұрын
My girlfriend and I just sat in stunned silence for like 5 minutes after the credits and I was just sobbing
@SlightyLessEvolved
@SlightyLessEvolved 2 ай бұрын
And conveniently enough, it was also the song for that kitchen scene from Days of Future Past with Evan Peters's Quicksilver.
@chrisblake4198
@chrisblake4198 2 ай бұрын
This is how you do a short series. A really well written story that easily breaks into sub stories. Each one a great variation on the theme. Every Marvel and Star Wars show runner needs to take notes. Don't try to cut down a movie or beef up a couple episodes. Tell a story like a comic book limited series.
@BEE-oz7yd
@BEE-oz7yd 2 ай бұрын
Patti LuPone better win some kind of award for this!
@joebove4
@joebove4 2 ай бұрын
A few. Acting all around in this show has been really strong, even for one-off appearances like Ralph in the previous episode, but damn - she topped them all right here AND managed to put a pin in how great she’s been the whole series long.
@chelseasmith2287
@chelseasmith2287 2 ай бұрын
Haha I just came from a party and did a few readings (always manage to make someone cry). Fun fact about Lilia: the cards she expresses are relevant to the plot in this episode, BUT they're also relevant as exclamations every time she says them elsewhere in the show, too. Like, when we thought Billy might die, I believe she says Three of Swords. That's a card of heartbreak. The care and respect put into this is breathtaking from both a story and cultural standpoint.
@JustMe-dc6ks
@JustMe-dc6ks 2 ай бұрын
Heartbreak was a reference to Agatha in both places. Her origin as an evil witch. And the obstacle to she needs to overcome for everyone’s sake.
@hafsaahmed7716
@hafsaahmed7716 2 ай бұрын
I thought that was the whole purpose of her saying it at the moment
@somewhereonlyweknow2814
@somewhereonlyweknow2814 2 ай бұрын
The Three of Swords card and Lilia’s exclamation of it is related to Agatha, not Teen. That’s the moment Lilia sees and understands Agatha’s true heart and intentions. Agatha’s life has been shaped by heartbreak, sorrow, grief and this informs who she becomes as a witch and woman.
@jasonmarbach
@jasonmarbach 2 ай бұрын
Yeah there’s no doubt this is among the best ~30 minutes of marvel content ever. Absolutely *peak*
@lead6186
@lead6186 2 ай бұрын
I loved being a witch... 😭
@jamiedoe6822
@jamiedoe6822 2 ай бұрын
I felt so connected
@MrNorcal81
@MrNorcal81 2 ай бұрын
Maybe Patti can add an Emmy to her shelf of Tonys and numerous other awards. This was a master class in how to write and act a character study.
@ludwigvanbeethoven5176
@ludwigvanbeethoven5176 20 күн бұрын
That one clip of her shoving a tony in a locker in her basement 😭 Iconic
@drewforchic9083
@drewforchic9083 2 ай бұрын
I had assumed that she had a Sybil Trelawny type deal, where she normally didn't have any special talent, but occasionally had uncontrollable but accurate visions of the future that she wouldn't remember afterwards. The idea that she's actually experiencing time out of order with everyone else is way cooler.
@chrisf5828
@chrisf5828 2 ай бұрын
She was always a powerful seer but she refused to use her powers for most of her life because everyone has the same sad ultimate fortune and she couldn't change it. All seers are like Casandra if they cannot change the future. It wouldn't matter if Casandra was believed if it still wouldn't change anything. As she said, she *chose* to not be in a coven (or have other close relationships) and to be a fraud (a phony fortune teller) because of her inability to save her coven. It was all about never seeing that someone would die -- until she unwittingky saw that Billy would die in only hours. By helping (?) Billy with the sigil she did something else-- she immediately wiped out her own memory of fortelling his death. Being unstuck in time like Billy Pilgrim may be an occupational hazzard of seers that can be suppressed by not using her reel powers of divination but her powers are not just knowing her own biography. (Agatha "hitting the deck" is both after Lilias demise and, importantly, a coherent attempt to change the future. The person unstuck in time knows they can change nothing but a seer sometimes can.)
@ShyOff
@ShyOff 2 ай бұрын
I hope the writers got an EXTRA fat paycheck for that episode, cause OMG it was AMAZING!!!
@shanerenfrow3275
@shanerenfrow3275 2 ай бұрын
This has to be one of the best episodes of tv ever written. A MASTERPIECE of writing directing lighting acting… just all of it
@CapitanKilpack
@CapitanKilpack 2 ай бұрын
then you haven't watched enough tv
@hritviknijhawan1737
@hritviknijhawan1737 2 ай бұрын
​@@CapitanKilpackor they favor different genres.
@Vi_Vi_1
@Vi_Vi_1 2 ай бұрын
I've loved this show from ep 1 but this episode was CRAZY good. I was riveted the entire time, and the payoff of her previous "slips" was SO satisfying. Makes me excited to go watch the whole show again with that context. Cool as hell and so, so rewarding. For sure the best episode of the show and one of the best things the MCU has done in a long time
@5hakeZZpeare
@5hakeZZpeare 2 ай бұрын
Watching Loki fail over and over and over again only to realize that his loved ones are most important to him, and THEN realize the only way to save them was to be alone was a pretty good episode of TV. This one was up there with that for me!
@CorrectFossa
@CorrectFossa 2 ай бұрын
This is up there with the Loki S2 finale, Moon Knight Episode 5, and WandaVision episode 8
@CorrectFossa
@CorrectFossa 2 ай бұрын
As afraid as I should be to praise She-Hulk online, that finale was pretty good too.
@racool911
@racool911 2 ай бұрын
@@CorrectFossaThe She Hulk finale was the laziest shit I've ever seen,
@hritviknijhawan1737
@hritviknijhawan1737 2 ай бұрын
​@@racool911honestly, it had potential to be one of the coolest episodes of all time and it failed miserably.
@Countmars
@Countmars 2 ай бұрын
@@CorrectFossa I liked She-Hulk, too
@beighss
@beighss 2 ай бұрын
I don't have much to add, I just wanted to say how much I appreciated Lilia's arc this episode. I didn't expect to be as attached to her as I was by the end of it
@nicholasmaione5694
@nicholasmaione5694 2 ай бұрын
I’ve watched all the breakdowns on this show but I’m surprised not a single person brought up the connection between Lila as the oldest witch in the group and Merlin who both experienced time out of order.
@Tuaron
@Tuaron 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know that was a thing, as I never read TH White's Once and Future King, which seems to be the origin of the idea that Merlyn (sic) seems to experience time backwards, though exactly how so isn't detailed.
@chrisf5828
@chrisf5828 2 ай бұрын
​​@@TuaronIt is actually a very old idea that Merlin aged backward and may have a rather sensible origin. There were two main myth-sets about Merlin that were chronologically irreconcilable unless he was older deeper in the past. White reworked and formalized that bit of legend.
@donnieuchiha
@donnieuchiha 2 ай бұрын
When Agatha all along was announced, I said “who wants this, why do we need this” and was bummed. I can’t believe how much I actually DID need this from the MCU and how much I’m loving it.
@ayushhh5213
@ayushhh5213 2 ай бұрын
This is up there for me at the top with Loki season two episode 6 , and Wanda vision episode 8 .
@zunaidparker
@zunaidparker 2 ай бұрын
Also WV ep 4 when they revealed the hex from the outside perspective. It was such a cool way to peel back the curtain.
@ayushhh5213
@ayushhh5213 2 ай бұрын
@@zunaidparker yeah that one was amazing as well .
@StarMonkies
@StarMonkies 2 ай бұрын
I'm not a big marvel person but I watched Wanda Vision because I love the premise and I couldn't resist AAA because of the cast. I thought it was going to be a bit of camp fun and in many ways it is. I didn't expect it to be so good and episode 7 got me excited about TV in a say I haven't been in years. What I really appreciate though is that this show centered around women and gay characters didn't try to cater to what is seen as the typical marvel audience (straight men). It wasn't trying to teach any lessons, its wasn't trying to explain anything and it was trying to make women or gay characters more palatable to a male audience. It just trusted that at the end of the day what matters is good story telling. Who would have thought 7 episodes in and straight men are as equally enthralled and devastated by a witch played by a 75 year old Broadway actress as gay men are. It just goes to show you don't have to see yourself "represented" to empathize and relate to characters on tv. I hope we have more of this going forward. That tv excecs will trust audiences more. Good storytelling will find its audience and will have broad appeal.
@rachelespiritu4215
@rachelespiritu4215 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being a comic book fan 20 years ago. A time traveler from 2024 shows up and tells you that the latest Joker and Venom movies are gonna bomb, but Agatha Harkness and the Penguin are gonna carry the year. Oh, and audiences this year lose their minds when Elektra and Blade- yes, those same actors- team up with Channing Tatum’s Gambit.
@NineNerdYards
@NineNerdYards 2 ай бұрын
I just got done watching it and will need to run it back. I’m really impressed by the abundance in foreshadowing sprinkled throughout the show to make this episode work.
@SIZModig
@SIZModig 2 ай бұрын
Give the people who made this show and Wandavision a blank check and set them to make more (good) shows and no one will complain. Also, Agatha doesn't seem to know shit about the Road, I think Billy is on the mark when he questioned her.
@McJethroPovTee
@McJethroPovTee 2 ай бұрын
No no . Not a blank check. Just give them a budget with some ample headroom. The constraints allow them to be more creative instead of throwing cash at their problem.
@putridfetus666
@putridfetus666 2 ай бұрын
The Road is a hex created by Billy, thats why Agatha has kept comparing him to his mother. Agatha HAS been on the road, however this is what Billy imagines the road to be.
@Tuaron
@Tuaron 2 ай бұрын
That is the theory I have kept in my back pocket since...the 2nd episode? The way her experience with The Road was talked about, how she seemed to react to it, I wouldn't be surprised if she'd never walked it, or - at most - left it early. I think we might get confirmation of what happened to her next episode, though, kinda like WandaVision's penultimate episode gave us background, it's a common spot in TV shows.
@putridfetus666
@putridfetus666 2 ай бұрын
@@Tuaron One could also argue that Agatha is reacting strangely towards the Road because as I said, its a hex of what Billy imagines the road looks like.
@Tuaron
@Tuaron 2 ай бұрын
@putridfetus666 I am not necessarily rejecting that as impossible, it's just not the feeling I had, as I was thinking she hadn't been on the Road *before* they "made it to the Road" at the end of episode 2.
@e443productions9
@e443productions9 2 ай бұрын
This episode had no business being the best Disney plus MCU show episode ever. It ate and left absolutely no crumbs! Such an amazing episode and I’m now scared for the last two episodes because how can they even top this one?
@pandanose4994
@pandanose4994 2 ай бұрын
I just finished the show, I'm late I know. Anyways, as a witchcraft practioner, this episodes was beautliful. How lillia's actress acted by explaining the cards, the humour about the sword(s) falling. and the phrase "I loved being a witch," was so beautifully delevered. This show had such beautiful elements about modern witchcraft. MCU really pulled something else with this show and I'm here for it.
@MrWillcapone
@MrWillcapone 2 ай бұрын
That episode was a masterclass
@BEE-oz7yd
@BEE-oz7yd 2 ай бұрын
How does this show just keep getting better and better!😭
@luckas221a
@luckas221a Ай бұрын
It's really interesting that each of the witches of the coven either killed somebody else or they died. Jen indirectly killed Mrs. Davies/Hart. Agatha killed Alice. Billy at the end took a body to save his brother - and in a way if anyone died on the road it was kinda his fault anyway. The only ones who didn't kill - Alice and Lilia. Lilia basically chose her fate, too.
@UGotSerbed
@UGotSerbed 2 ай бұрын
At the end of the trial, Lilia sent off the rest of the coven giving Courage to Agatha, Wisdom to Billy and she opened her Heart to Jen.
@Alassandros
@Alassandros 2 ай бұрын
Remember, Nando, Agatha All Along is the second installment in a trilogy of shows. VisionQuest is forthcoming and it's very possible the rumored Scarlet Witch movie may be what all this comes down to. Hell, Midnight Suns may also be related. Keep your eyes open.
@hunterfrancis6010
@hunterfrancis6010 2 ай бұрын
Peak just dropped
@TheEvilCheesecake
@TheEvilCheesecake 2 ай бұрын
Remember when people said things that actually mean something instead of spewing mad libs.
@hunterfrancis6010
@hunterfrancis6010 2 ай бұрын
@@TheEvilCheesecake Why you take the time out of your day to hate on me?
@TheEvilCheesecake
@TheEvilCheesecake 2 ай бұрын
Because I'm peak
@hunterfrancis6010
@hunterfrancis6010 2 ай бұрын
@@TheEvilCheesecake More like bored dawg
@coolguy1127
@coolguy1127 2 ай бұрын
This series is the absolute 180 of secret invasion in every way possible.
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster
@LeoChaseTheMythMaster 2 ай бұрын
My favourite episode! It was a perfect character exploration, I loved the timey wimry stuff and the use of Time In A Bottle ... *chef's kiss* .
@gallinaesmoking
@gallinaesmoking 2 ай бұрын
6:05 Two of the salem seven can transform into flying animals and the tower card shows two hooded figures scaping through a window I think there are two salem witches alive
@davescrams
@davescrams 2 ай бұрын
I agree. There are at least 3 that could have escaped if they were able to transform: the crow, the owl, and the cicada. I believe Vertigo (the cicada) is the only one who gets a proper name rather than being credited as their animal form. And I think Okwui Okpokwasili (Vertigo) is the only Salem Seven actor who gets one of the coveted spots in the episode end credits. If anyone made it out, I would assume it includes her.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 ай бұрын
Honestly there's a part of me that hopes the show will end with them actually managing to kill agatha. I mean, they're literally seeking revenge for their dead parents, they're basically Inigo Montoya but with a creepy makeover
@chrisf5828
@chrisf5828 2 ай бұрын
People keep saying 2 but I count raven, cicada and owl. But five of seven hit the swords which is why oeople jeep saying 2.
@chrisf5828
@chrisf5828 2 ай бұрын
​@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868Becoming avenging furies for centuries has robbed them of humanity. The remind me very much if the Nazgul, but with a different sort if curse
@gallinaesmoking
@gallinaesmoking 2 ай бұрын
@@chrisf5828 true but, in adition to the five swords, the tarot tower card on the table shows two hooded figures scaping the tower through a window. that also points to two survivors
@MaybeAnnatar
@MaybeAnnatar 2 ай бұрын
I was not excited for Agatha when it was announced. Like at all. I wasn't hoping for it to fail, but I wasn't even sure if I was going to watch it. But I went in with an open mind, the first two episodes I felt just kind of meh on, but this episode was genuinely so excellent I messaged a friend "you need to watch Agatha". I'm glad I went in open minded on this show because it went from my "ugh fine I'll watch it" to so far my favorite D+ era show.
@jimstoesz3878
@jimstoesz3878 2 ай бұрын
I was worried about AAA at first, because the discourse of "it's not bad, the haters are just sexist/bigoted" is how She-Hulk started out, I've never been happier to be this wrong!
@AntiSocialExtrovert323
@AntiSocialExtrovert323 2 ай бұрын
Your thumbnail being a huge Patti Lupone warms my gay theater kid heart 😭. Now pop culture is FINALLY getting why theater is amazing. Whatever school play yo’ all growing up is as representative of actual theater as the quality of music high school bands and filmmakers create. I hope this means the general public will be even more receptive and loving to Broadway!!
@sisterseeth
@sisterseeth 2 ай бұрын
So true...very few realize how much is ripped off of Broadway, and then blandly portrayed in film....and then, everyone fans out for such a cheap imitation. The same is true for the music underground, and how it hits the mainstream in such a manufactured way...but to those that have no idea what exists in the underground music scenes, the pale imitation is their version of modern edginess.
@tamedthethreebears
@tamedthethreebears 2 ай бұрын
I bet this show will get a boost in viewership from rewatching and finding the small details
@gavinmcmahon235
@gavinmcmahon235 2 ай бұрын
Lilia was Glinda because she was the one who put them all on the path, and she gave them all something at the end. She gave Agatha a warning, Billy his spell book, and Jen an insight into her destiny. It was so well structured.
@abbywolffe4114
@abbywolffe4114 2 ай бұрын
I think it's also telling that visually, there isn't a ton of distracting CGI. It seems to mostly used to enhance the practical effects and the camerawork. Which is why the first few WandaVision episodes are also so good, due to the era-accurate practical filming.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 2 ай бұрын
The Schaefferverse is thriving man. Give her a Wanda movie or Young Avengers. Bet she was rolling in her grave watching Multiverse of Madness
@zenithquasar9623
@zenithquasar9623 2 ай бұрын
And yet, she respected it and incorporated it as much as possible in this show…even though they had spat on her face by ignoring Wandavision in a way with MoM…
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob 2 ай бұрын
@@zenithquasar9623 This is true, props to her
@johnman8398
@johnman8398 2 ай бұрын
@@zenithquasar9623MoM never ignored WV the events of that show are directly tied to how Wanda ends up in MoM.
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 Ай бұрын
WTF she’s not dead 😂
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Ай бұрын
@@mhawang8204 I'm just being a silly billy
@TheKeybladeKeeper
@TheKeybladeKeeper 2 ай бұрын
I think Glinda fit well for Lilia, Glinda (in Wizard of Oz) was seen as omniscient but cryptic and I think Lilia fits the bill pretty well. She also started Agatha and Billy on the coven journey and Glinda started Dorothy on hers.
@OhSnapItzSam
@OhSnapItzSam 2 ай бұрын
Nando I always love your takes! But I think I can provide a different perspective around the witch costumes; Agatha is wearing a colligate outfit/blazer so her WWW is Elphaba and she was horrifically misunderstood and chose to be the "villain" . Teens skin isn't teal here so he's an homage to Angelina's Maleficent that's where the cheekbones comment comes into play, in that movie she was portrayed as a villain but she was a good soul who trusted the wrong people. And Lilia as Glenda makes so much sense since she was the only selfless one in the coven ( even know she didn't know it) she gave everything she had to give the rest of the coven a chance to live, she gave Agatha courage, teen brains ( by giving him his book back) and She gave Jen a heart, Lilia's honesty with Jen made Jen change how she views the group, every other trial Jen was always out first to the next trial and only concerned with her safety, this time she said she was not going to go through the door before Lilia. Jen's was the least complicated, the evil witch relentlessly chased beauty and died in her witch form that she detested so much. I see people comparing her to Once Upon A Times Evil Queen regina but as a regina fan I can tell you she never walked around in this form ever lol. Long long story short there is a lot of story telling through the costumes for the overly observant crowd.
@ivonnegallegos58
@ivonnegallegos58 2 ай бұрын
I loved how also the theme of Lilia's trial was 'stereotypical witches' which is what Lilia hates hahahahahaha
@michelbidart7286
@michelbidart7286 2 ай бұрын
I'd say this was on par with Loki Season 2 finale for best Marvel TV episode. It seems to have the same level of care and creativity.
@michaelmartinez3893
@michaelmartinez3893 2 ай бұрын
Best episode of any MCU show for me.
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad 8 and 9 are dropping at the same time.
@jayronauron4042
@jayronauron4042 2 ай бұрын
Only intriguing detail I noticed this episode that wasn't discussed by anyone I've seen talk about the show is the fact that Lilia offers one final "time travel" tip to Jen before she does her thing....a tip she couldn't offer if she wasn't there. In other words...we'll get to see her at least one more time.
@greedowins
@greedowins 2 ай бұрын
Agree, this is my favorite MCU content (this episode especially) since Endgame.
@miguelroumie
@miguelroumie 2 ай бұрын
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION: PATTI LUPONE
@Calico321
@Calico321 2 ай бұрын
Patti better clear off a place on her shelf for her next Emmy!
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 Ай бұрын
Hope they don’t have a bias against genre shows like Marvel, because Patti deserves all the flowers!
@MrStGeorgeIllawarra
@MrStGeorgeIllawarra 2 ай бұрын
I like they haven't really softened Agatha that much. She's still a horribly selfish and arrogant person even without most of her powers.
@Nehelenia3000
@Nehelenia3000 2 ай бұрын
I watched this episode about 10 times already. What a perfection. And PLP was a tour de force
@timcrawford6879
@timcrawford6879 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@KaterinaDeAnnika
@KaterinaDeAnnika 2 ай бұрын
This whole show is fanTASTIC. Wandavision was great, and this just built on it! Best show from Marvel yet. Not just relying on CGI or characters people have known. But treating it with love and care and good writing like a show SHOULD be.
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 Ай бұрын
Agreed. This is like classic TV at its best: episodic with a main through line. You spend time with the characters to learn more to care about them, and the payoff is so rewarding. Working with a TV budget so it’s small scale, but things FEEL real.
@gavino299
@gavino299 2 ай бұрын
An absolute fantastic episode from all angles (writing/production/editing/acting/costume/makeup). Also, I have a fun little detail I noticed that I haven't seen a single breakdown channel notice. It's not of any import, but it's a deep Easter egg that unless you're super into live music in iconic venues, you'd never notice even though it is mentioned in a previous episode. The tarot card meant to represent Alice has a large, odd shaped rock behind the character. This rock is shaped/colored exactly like the iconic rock formation at the Red Rocks music venue. This is the venue mentioned in the first trial when Alice tells Billy that her mom had her tattoo with the protection symbol when she was 13. It's a cool reference and I feel like the only person who has seen it other than the creator of the prop.
@Divadtube
@Divadtube 2 ай бұрын
The call backs and the time stuff was well done and the character was interesting. Well written for once, really enjoyed it.
@JoeNasr123
@JoeNasr123 2 ай бұрын
Agree completely, this was GREAT! Still thinking about it days later.
@itwillbeokay5475
@itwillbeokay5475 2 ай бұрын
I also like how the show is building out this particular part of the MCU. So if, they make Wanda or magic centric movie, it’s already done.
@SarahHansen-ud3cw
@SarahHansen-ud3cw 2 ай бұрын
Glinda is perfect for her. At the end, she gave them each something to get them to where they needed to be
@stevencooper564
@stevencooper564 2 ай бұрын
That very well might have been the single best episode of Marvel Television yet. Jesus Christ that episode ruled.
@carydum9356
@carydum9356 2 ай бұрын
I think the circular story telling was properly done here. And it's a hard style to pull with all the little details that were already sprinkled in the previous episodes tying up together in the end. This was great...
@JoeJoe-lq6bd
@JoeJoe-lq6bd 2 ай бұрын
This was an incredible episode. Patti Lupone is incredible. I'm sorry she won't be around for more episodes now.
@ciejeargo
@ciejeargo 2 ай бұрын
Penguin and Agatha also both had antagonist* origin/perspective episodes come out at the same time: Sofia episode for Penguin and Billy episode for Agatha.
@tobyriecke3972
@tobyriecke3972 2 ай бұрын
I’m glad this show, and specifically this episode, is being so well loved especially after the “nO one AsKeD foR tHiS” crowd. It’s a great show that the “anti-woke” crowd has no valid reason to heavily criticize
@anthonysmurthwaite6258
@anthonysmurthwaite6258 2 ай бұрын
Among the all time great Marvel TV show episodes, up there with S4E15 of Agents of Shield (the LMD episode) and S3E13 of Daredevil (the finale)
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id 2 ай бұрын
I personally prefer S3E5 of Agents of Shield (the one with Simmons alone on the alien planet), but Season 4 as a whole is probably Agents of Shield best season
@augustmyers339
@augustmyers339 2 ай бұрын
@@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id As I Have Always Been is great too (The Season 7 time loop one)
@Non-Legit
@Non-Legit 2 ай бұрын
This episode feels like one only this show could do in a weird way but also in the best way
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241 2 ай бұрын
I didn't expect this from a gay witch's show but goddamn they brought it with the writing, pacing, foreshadowing, and humor.
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868
@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 2 ай бұрын
Almost like 'a gay witch's show' isn't a bad thing on its own or something to just write off because of the concept
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241 2 ай бұрын
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 the acolyte. Is my response to that.
@SD-zz4ov
@SD-zz4ov 2 ай бұрын
thats not a valid point lmao​@@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241
@jamiedoe6822
@jamiedoe6822 2 ай бұрын
I think it’s legit storytelling rather than reliance on a formula that makes it so great
@UchihaKat
@UchihaKat 2 ай бұрын
Jusst watched this episode tonight and have been scrawling around looking for a review or reaction or SOMETHING to this awesome episode and then here this just pops up on my dash after I've given up. You knew what I was looking for. XD
@jameszetterman4487
@jameszetterman4487 2 ай бұрын
I'm really enjoying this show. Appointment television, in my opinion. But I don't think any Marvel episode will ever top "Remember It" from X-Men '97.
@diegoprodriguez
@diegoprodriguez 2 ай бұрын
I think the lower budget is kinda endearing. As a fan of Halloweentown and Hocus Pocus, the scenes on the road just take me back to that era.
@jmattos
@jmattos 2 ай бұрын
Lilia reminded me of my mom who has dementia.
@mhawang8204
@mhawang8204 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if the writers were inspired by older folks with dementia, who are forgotten and dismissed. This episode gives them the respect they deserve. 😢
@censheard7019
@censheard7019 2 ай бұрын
Hey Nando! I hope you see this. I subscribed to nebula about a year ago now (like 10 months) because of you 😁 and I watch your videos there but because there is no feature to comment on the app I came here to say thank you. You got me to subscribe and because of that I found a lot of other creators I enjoy. Your videos are awesome and I genuinely hope one day marvel sits down and buys one of your movie/ tv show script ideas!
@wilhelmpaulm
@wilhelmpaulm 2 ай бұрын
Agatha dropped a short movie grade episode that's better than almost everything after end game.
@jotjotzzz5357
@jotjotzzz5357 2 ай бұрын
Patti was so amazing in this episode. So so so goood! The writing and the acting wow !!!
@GinsuSher
@GinsuSher 2 ай бұрын
You know something was up when they cast Patti Lupone on that role.
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