Age of Empires IV Is Dead!

[@zufizuf200]

Playing almost everyday with friends, dont care wat peoplr say. Matchmaking is within a minute anytime. Sounds not dead to me.

[@madjarl]

fr, I just bought this game yesterday and idk why the hate? its such a beautiful game and ive been an aoe veteran since aoe 2 released

[@marcelt.6136]

Same here, playing since release with small breaks in between and love playing it. Sure, some bugs/mechanics are annoying, but the game is slowly improving. Love to play the game with friends, especialy Nomad!

[@alexnob3149]

Bro i love the game aswell but like all my friends find it boring so thats why i dont play anymore bcs i have no one to play some fun challanges with

[@JayJayM57]

@@madjarl are you still interested in knowing why people hate AOE 4?

[@madjarl]

@@JayJayM57 not really, I’m still enjoying the game

[@KhasAdun1990]

Been playing it again over the past few days and I can't stop thinking about it. I just want to learn all the civilizations.

[@ross.mp3]

Hmm.. I like the 1st one the most just because there is not much stuff. (Not too much..).

[@icemagicbob26]

​@@ross.mp3aoe3 end 2024 we get 2 new civs denemarken and another 1 i cant remember

[@luciusnorman]

The issue is most of Aoe fans lack the computer to run it. So they stick with aoe2

[@dt534]

Aoe fans still running the same rig from 2004

[@evanfisher3016]

Lol no they don't

[@1Capybara24]

I have average good computer and still stick to aoe2.

[@maxmustermann3811]

​@@1Capybara24 good luck playing aoe4 with an average computer

[@1Capybara24]

@@maxmustermann3811 I don't play it though. I am good with AoE II. I was just stating that not every aoe ii player must have trash computer. There are many who simply like aoe ii more than the other games. Aoe II is a living classic for me. Been playing it since youth. It's nostalgic and good. Not saying the others are bad, I enjoyed them too, but I like AoE II the most.

[@EhurtAfy]

I thought Age of Empire IV had a great launch and was much more focused on competitive multiplayer. A lot of the AoE2 pros moved to AoE4 due to the emphasis on competitive play. AoE2 remains popular because it's fantastic, has great gameplay and graphics, still getting new content, and 95% of players are extremely casual

[@tigera6]

yet, AoE2 prize pool in tournaments has double the amount of AoE4 this year. Its like MS still want people to watch AoE2 events over AoE4 or something.

[@mario-k.]

​@@tigera6or, actually, there are more people watching and playing AoE2 so they think they will make a higher investment into a prize pool back, as a moneymaking corporation 🤔

[@tigera6]

@@mario-k. I am not saying they shouldnt support AoE2, they definitely doing it right. But I am saying it seems that they have given up on developing AoE4 pro-scene and tournament just 2 years after releasing the games is way too immature. Unless the game just sucks and nobody buying which, but thats not the case here.

[@CrnaStrela]

​@@tigera6 They wanted aoe4 to have its own viewer base independent from other titles, however with the disastrous start and aoe2 players giving it up, the prospect is bleak even if they already fixed the game. So it make sense that aoe2 has higher prizepool, although aoe1 still have the largest viewers.

[@tigera6]

@@CrnaStrela I think AoE2 has the most diversified viewer base, as opposed to AoE1 which focused around 2 -3 countries. But I thought the fix on AoE4 is well received, so they should try to push forward with the plan to create more popularity for the franchise. Its just strange to see a new but well-established game not receiving as much support as older ones.

[@joaorocha144]

we need age of mythology retold

[@jasperward4751]

Aom for the boys

[@xyzgaminq8905]

prostagma!

[@BenjaVeraV]

Waiting for it ❤

[@iagofranca7702]

Vulome ​@@xyzgaminq8905

[@tycho600]

This comment aged well.

[@VMUDream]

it launched with zero support for game settings, aoe 1 gave you more control over the lobby settings lmao

[@bruno.madalozzo]

I think they missed the opportunity to make a more realistic rather than cartoonized style. Would be better to have more simple graphics but a dark atmosphere.

[@IgnacioAguilarToledo]

Mods

[@rigormortis3219]

sadly a mod like this doesnt exist@@IgnacioAguilarToledo

[@Skankhunt668]

maybe the style they have now benifits how good the game runs (just a guess tho)

[@Dingleberry69420]

With aoe3 de graphics

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

I started to realize that the better graphics in a troubling time with people not able to get good computers, means less chances to play, or just too high on the graphics that a somewhat decent computer still can’t run the game

[@Kenny-z2w]

The king (never was) is dead. Long live the king (aoe2)

[@dmeolu]

which I find...really, really boring. I stick to 4 ;-)

[@0344478]

​@@dmeolu U clearly don't know how to play so.

[@Flower_boi145]

​@@dmeoluyoure kinda alone on that lol

[@dmeolu]

@@Flower_boi145... So then why do you all feel the need to defend against my opionion? 🤔

[@somebody2283]

​@@dmeolusmart counter

[@joelek19]

This is the first strategy game I ever played.. just started a few days ago and I love it

[@dj_koen1265]

Glad you like it

[@yazzzlet3549]

That's cause you don't know how unbalanced it is

[@SomeCyberSecGuy]

Those stats are from steamDB, I’m assuming that doesn’t account for game pass players, that probably make up the majority considering it has been free there since release?

[@MrMerlinAOE]

Gamepass makes up a very small percent, but yes that would add a little

[@JetUranus]

I play on game pass and I love it. Started playing aoe as a wee lad in the late 90’s then stopped playing for around 17 years but just picked it back up about three weeks ago and it was like riding a bike. I never forgot. In that 17 yr hiatus is wasn’t like I forgot about aoe either. I continued to love it even though I stopped playing it. I think the new one is great and I play it daily. Can’t wait for the new civs and other content coming out next month!

[@cerpenkita123]

Do you know Empire earth? Master piece that forgoten by world

[@食屎有餅味]

We're under attack!!!

[@Justacheese]

@@食屎有餅味 WHOO-ALLGH! (Death scream from the game)

[@42ccb]

Idk, it was good game, but it's plays just like Aoe 1 with a lot of epochs. Also, the customizable civ bonuses feature is bad, as everyone use just the same presets. And players also use 1-2 unit lines from all the game. Rise of Nations is a better game, too bad the Extended Edition is a broken mess

[@woulfhound]

*WTF is this?* A generic medieval warrior riding a generic medieval horse, wielding a generic medieval weapon.

[@ShinFahima]

LOL

[@calebw9747]

What did you expect? A laser gun?

[@portela132]

@@calebw9747 Personality something this game just doesn't have

[@GutsOfRivia]

Its age of empires did you expect him to ride a Worg?

[@Justacheese]

I wish I could give you 2 thumbs up.

[@svenkleinplarre9461]

"Wow, what is this unit?" Literaly the Sipahi from Age 3

[@andyh7777]

We know no aoe, but the aoe of old, who’s name is 2

[@jeanfrancoisdutremble9022]

i just don't like how it look

[@master_jon]

yeah it's balls

[@thebugaboo]

@@master_jon show me your game lol

[@Dalraxas]

​​@@thebugaboo Microsoft $$$$$ vs 1 civil. Civil Gana.

[@awagnow]

​@@thebugaboo gonna cry?

[@-Spex-]

@@awagnowhe just said how’s your game wdym he’s gonna cry. You be making it seem so deep for nothing

[@zechariahross1444]

Age of empires 3 and heroes 3 might and magic will live in my heart.

[@nusreim]

Coh3? I've been dying to buy it since release but haven't found a good deal on it yet

[@TheArklyte]

Given AI shenanigans at launch, it was the opposite. TOO MUCH focus on competitive multiplayer in hopes it'll carry the game. But it's nice for the game to slowly make its niche... even if it gets weirder and weirder that each new AoE game has separate fanbase and they all exist simultaneously 😅

[@lucasyeah7974]

Even the 1 is sill alive in vietnam ... XD

[@DanielBlak]

The ai is great now, can actually build walls lol

[@TheArklyte]

@@lucasyeah7974 given that AoE1 has received remaster, well, first, it actually had a bit of popularity hike. Though it's still weird then when somebody suggest to play AoE it may mean 4 different games with equal probability:D

[@AtticusKarpenter]

​​@@TheArklyteremember that activision blizz idiot that decided to call random patch for Overwatch as "Overwatch 2" for a reason "its sad that when new game in series released everyone abandon previous one" well he can take notes from AoE devs althrough probability is not equal, AoE 2 still at the top as live classic, and i'm a bit sad that my beloved AoE 3 are second from the end with AoE 1 probably most rare. But one can argue that Age of Mythology are also part of Age of Empires series and then AoE 3 is just at the middle of the chart. I think when Retold be released it will be higher by player count than all other than AoE 2. If they will not screw that game ofc

[@TheArklyte]

@@AtticusKarpenter AoE2 also has the biggest and most dedicated balancing team. On the other hand as far as I'm aware, AoE3 didn't receive QoL remaster yet. Automated scouts incoming;)

[@solinvictus4367]

Gamers who base the quality of the game on its multiplayer are the underclass of the gaming world

[@RazorX0517]

Totally and wholeheartedly agree. Also, the fuck with the guy saying the game hadn't enough focus on competitive multiplayer at launch, like, wtf... This game is the WORST in the series for single player content by far... and online was the main focus and it still is...

[@zp7767]

Aoe4 looks like so much cartooned to me

[@endlessgalaxyz]

I just like the old aoe2 just the whole game was great I don’t like the 3d look or whatever it is

[@L3monsta]

The aoe4 visual aesthetic is extremely off putting to me. I don't know why they didn't try to replicate the aoe2 style but in 3d instead of having a weird modern look and golden hallucinations building structures etc.

[@Autonomous_Don]

Aoe4 is a masterpiece and at any given hour there’s minimum 10k people on 24/7

[@SkreltNL]

bots, all online service numbers are boosted by bots microsoft gave up on AoE4 in favor off milking AoE2 and its loyal fanbase

[@marjimanrts]

@@SkreltNL i fear that may be true :(

[@tinkywinky4554]

Unfortunately AOE2 has more players. Still higher than other AOE games.

[@NolmanZ]

@@SkreltNLHow do u know it ?

[@diego2817]

Master piece ? Hahahahahaha

[@filipkuchta_main]

I wish it had more campaign missions. I love to play stories in every AoE. For me, AoE4 has the best voices and sound. I just love it.

[@boombox2112]

Problem with age of empires 4 is it took them way too long to fix all those bugs, like the Mongol tower rush, the Springalds being spammed, water boats not working right list goes on. Took them about a year to fix some of the most simple bugs and by then people went back to the more balanced games. It may have been all fixed now but the damage is done.

[@MacAaron]

If game is dead then why ranked queue is faster than in csgo?

[@juan9982]

You need 10 players xd

[@MacAaron]

@@juan9982 yeah and I'm playing ranked 3v3 only and still, faster than csgo

[@ilansobel1631]

What is this bigger bombard in your video? Why doesn’t anyone use it?

[@MrMerlinAOE]

It is used, just in a very late stage of the game, it’s called the Great Bombard and is only available to the ottomans

[@ilansobel1631]

@@MrMerlinAOE I’ve never seen in hundreds of matches. Shouldn’t they make it actually useful?

[@drkduranrz]

@@ilansobel1631 ottoman main here! i ALWAYS use it, that bad boy made me able to go from bronze to plat II where i am right now hehe

[@farhadchaudhry]

@@ilansobel1631 It is useful, it's just not economical.

[@Fantasygod19999]

The bombard your girl tells you not to worry about

[@kiffsan]

Sooo, in the last 30 days AoE4 averaged 11k players with a peak of 21k. Compare that with AoE2 having 16k average players and a peak of 26k. NOW think about the fact AoE2 came out over 24 years ago...11

[@Dalraxas]

Lo que mas abunda en el mundo son moscas comiendo mierda.

[@AtticusKarpenter]

Lol no. What you must compare to is to other recent RTS games like Iron Harvest, and to AoE 3 and 1 Def editions. AoE 2 is not only most popular game from the release, but also have most active support now, its stupid to compare other games to the golden child. This is literally Rockstar CEO "Red Dead Redemption must be closed as its generate not as much money as GTA V despite being newer" logic

[@sonjagatterer5272]

Age of Empires 3 needs more recognition

[@thegorn]

They really need to fix up the stats at the end of a game. It's sad that I have to go to AoE4 World after every game to check the details I want to see.

[@Manoflames1625]

Me who mains ottomans "big cannon go boom to boat"

[@mr.biscuit]

Aoe4 is not made by ensembles anymore, if you’re 5 years old and enjoy watching cartoons, absolutely no physics, no authenticity then go relic aoe4. Such a shame in aoe series

[@ko3mo344]

AOE 3 looks a lot better

[@Dmitrii-q6p]

wtf, modding as dead as ded rat in the empty fridge. btw, they still cant fix building hotkey menu, why the hell you need FOUR letters to build?!!?! why QWER?! sum up: same shit as was with some balance changes in 1vs1

[@Dmitrii-q6p]

btw, you still need to be a friend to spectate the game. and only 10 last games available. i mean WTF

[@ShizzleGizzleGizzenGar]

This game is a ton of fun but aoe 2 is just better. Of course my opinion. I wish aoe 4 would have been aoe 2 remade basically. The super cartoons appeal to it is weird.

[@joaocherrydon9413]

They took AOE 2 and AOE 3 and smashed them together, with AOE 3 being a bigger contributor. Very poor business decision. And it was obvious they received harsh criticism from an early testers since most pre-release studio commentary was done from by marketing and social media employees.

[@dmeolu]

@@joaocherrydon9413 Not at all. Its doing well and growing. Eventually it ll pass aoe2. Which is only still fun for people with nostalgia issues. For me 2 is one big cheese fest. And so slow....Its a taste thing ;-)

[@PolanaAnurag]

​@dcolu I don't think you play aoe2 competitively as you are calling it a cheese fest. Others is preference no problem. Balance is better in aoe2. Just because of nature of shared tech tree

[@dmeolu]

@@PolanaAnurag Actually , I attempted to do that, and stopped pretty fast. Got walled in, castled in and more ... several games in a row. Even double chees in 2 vs 2. Friends had a similar experience. Its just so gimmiki, in my opinion. In aoe 4 I have not had much of that...maybe a Mongol Tower rush... Balance may be better in aoe 2, which does not need to exclude cheese strats ...also...it would be bad if balance wasnt better after all those years. That said, balance in AOE 4 is pretty good already ;-).

[@PolanaAnurag]

@@dmeolu Well it isn't cheese really. Aoe 2 multiplayer starts you at about 1000 elo. People are quite capable at that level. The gameplay has been figured out and there are plenty of guide on how to improve. Most new players experience a string of losses before experiencing their 1st win. The problem with Aoe 2 is not about gameplay or balance. It is the elo system. 1v1 new players start too high (It should be 800 or so for it to be a better exp for new players) and in teamgames it was messed up from the start (some players went till 4000 elo in teamgames). The devs did a reset and now things are slowly coming back atleast in teamgames.

[@LibertyLion1776]

I just started playing and I fell in love with how steep the difficulty curve is. I've never played RTS games before so it's a lot all at once but that makes me more interested in it.

[@diego2817]

Is a trap, nothing is changed, the game has movie graphics, no physics, very simple mechanics, siege is a joke and one dimensional, buildings are smaller than units, castle spam, HRE is even more boring than release, barely unique units and the ones are boring

[@Yordlehammer]

The campaigns were and still are the worst of every AoE title in my opinion. AoE3 and Mythology showed what good campaign are.

[@eberlazting]

aoe3 campaigns are far worse considering that they are not history based

[@vegannegan9652]

​@@eberlaztingwho cares about history

[@eberlazting]

@@vegannegan9652 ur mom

[@godshateisabsolute.8431]

@@eberlazting The campaign's gameplay in AoE4 is not good and it just basic af. You're just following the game's script.

[@erikfaru9780]

Even Age of Empires 3 DE received more updates and new civs and content in less time than Age 4. 2 civs in 2 years is just not enough to keep the game interesting for most players... especially after the game released with less civs, maps and other content than any other Age at release...

[@DanielBlak]

There's 6 new civs not 2. And the civs in aoe4 are all really unique, not reskins.

[@AtticusKarpenter]

​@@DanielBlakwell now it have civ variants that range from really unique ones to moderate changes compared to main civ. I think this is still more different than AoE 2 civs but less than AoE 3 even inside one culture (Asians, Native Americans, Africans, Europeans and also USA + Mexico). Joan of Arc most unique (and barely possible to balance not being autowin nor garbage) civ in entire series of games though as its clearly isekaid from Warcraft 3 judging by mechanics.

[@dj_koen1265]

All those civ variants were a mistake imo, they should have relegated it to a seperate gamemode and make it more polished It feels like they just added a half assed copy of every civ to the game which is not a good thing

[@TerahAsh]

AoE 3 DE is the best of the series.

[@panakno5702]

I think the missing thing about aoe4 to be more atractive is changing the HUD and make the game more beauty in units and buildings icons and things like that

[@KingSnake420]

There’s numerous servers at any time of day.. problem is people get used to the old stuff. I’ve played AoE 1-4 and I’ll pick the 3rd and 4th over the others any day.

[@scottkuyawa67]

2 newer civs and 4 variants with the expansion games great!

[@enriquegarcia6180]

We wanted ww1 and ww2 for aoe4.... Actual aoe4 is aoe2 reimagined or remake

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

WW1 Rts sucks for AoE 4. Everyone liked the aesthetic of Medieval more than colonial.

[@felipecastillo7898]

company of heroes....

[@TerahAsh]

I agree!

[@TerahAsh]

We wanted WW1

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

@@TerahAsh Idk man people really didn't like AOE 3 and that was colonial. WW1 also wouldn't give that feel of building massive fortresses and destroying them. Because well. WW1 was just lots of trenches.

[@BadNFlu3nz]

With this childish cartoonlike style they messed up bigtime

[@dom8286]

2021?? Why are the graphics so bad?

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

Too many people liking the AOE 2 feel.

[@quartermaster2809]

Graphics are stylized, not meant to look realistic except with simple cartoon style lighting. I played aoe3 a lot so was kind of bummed that the next game did not have a more realistic art direction

[@lucasraul2784]

use reshade and you will see a next gen game

[@Canthary]

The thing i find crazy about AoE games is that they are own fierce competition now

[@Destroymaster100]

i think yall forgot the meaning of "dead" ive played dead games and this game is far from dead

[@adityaadiputra3356]

People stuck on AoE 2, and they hate AoE 4 because their pc specs

[@Dalraxas]

Jugue AO4 en gráficas ultras a más de 60fps Puedo asegurar que es la peor mierda que jamás e jugado. Las empresas hacen mierda porque los conformistas como usted se la tragan entera.

[@yaqubshamyl1427]

That is not an average of 16k on that graph 😂

[@Plague-Nation]

Need help I cant even get to the next age because it dont give me the options to do so and I have met all material prerequisite someone please help me

[@lisboazz]

I started playing AOE4 when Mali launched. Its been my favorite Rts, but with retold launching soon I'll probably switch to Retold

[@Mago_Lee89]

It is too bad that there is no Korean civilization called the Kingdom of Bows, the Kingdom of Mercury that has prevented thousands of invasions in 5,000 years. There is a famous saying. China is Spear Japan is Sword Korea is Bow

[@blipojones2114]

"lack of attention to competitive gameplay" - no mate that WAS the focus, the campaign was also dog poo. it was just a flat out rubbish/rushed release.

[@PhysicsNerd25]

AoE IV was dead on release. "Generally liked" is an interesting euphemism though. AoE IV development was the laziest of any AoE game. It's just a shitty remake of AoE2.

[@geez7724]

Bro aoe 4 needs more content Updates. More civs, More and new Units, new mechanics

[@PabeTvi]

sultan expansion 6 new civs coming at november, a lot of new units

[@arturom31]

I would love to play it, if i had a stronger computer.

[@Labyrinth6000]

Looks too cartoony and more like a mobile game. They really should of went with the late 19th century to 1950 instead!! We already have a medieval era Age of Empires already!

[@zachflores4467]

My buddies and I just got into the game a couple of weeks ago and we haven’t stopped playing 🥰😂 getting us prepared for Age of mythology 😌

[@johanlassen6448]

I don't get where you get the 16k number from. Steamcharts says AoEIV per September 2023 had an average of about 8k players per month.

[@대전드루와]

I am a gamer in Korea. What can I say among Koreans? It felt like they were giving the game as a bonus if they purchased a medieval documentary.😅😅

[@MegaMech]

aoe4 is a good game. It's what we've always wanted because it plays like aoe2. The main issue is the music sucks. And they didn't continue improving the game

[@davifn6625]

To allow for endless bug fixes we need first endless bugs

[@MrNetrizhul]

I still play AOE3 as my main in series.

[@flaggy185]

Even AOE falled into the trend of "Drop now, fix later"

[@drditup]

opening a game up to modders are always a positive thing for the gaming community

[@GeorgeMasterclass]

I abandoned AoE4 multiplayer because I was playing Byzantines and there was litterally no way to defeat the Ottoman free units forever strategy. Plus the bombard was broken as hell. Still havent checked if they fixed it.

[@hoaha6343]

In Vietnam AOE 1997 still as popular as when it came out

[@phamdinhhoang1998]

Aoe 4 in under 2 years have more update than Aoe 1 DE in their entire lifespan

[@slopedarmor]

why do the graphics of aoe4 look bad and bland compared to the graphics of aoe3?

[@dominikwisniewski1818]

The thing is, why should I play this if I have AOE2? The games are set in the same time period, and I dont see anything new to that of AOE2. Besides I can run AOE2 on a potato pc.

[@tiltus352]

I'm kinda new to the game and am playing the campaign. But somehow I can't hear the speaker in the short videos before the gameplay, with default settings. Do I somehow need to enable him to speak ?

[@cxzact9204]

I had this issue at launch and was told it's a bug with certain graphics cards and that it wasn't fixable. Don't know if it is now but I insta-uninstalled the same day.

[@Rogue_Tiger]

That's a man on a horse with shield and mace

[@Perspicacity]

thats not why i went back to aoe 2, aoe 2 came out on console and cross play with the homies is unbeatable

[@GHOSToperator25]

Still needs more work on the multiplayer. Like the addition of alliances and declaration of war so traders aren’t just randomly attacked

[@harvbegal6868]

I bought AoE4 about a week ago. Been having a blast. Didn't really care much for AoE3 even though I love the time period it takes place in. However I was shocked when I seen the player numbers. Late night weekday, I'm on Pacific time. AoE3 had 9000 playing. AoE4 had 5000. Had AoE3 improved that much since release?

[@gtone339]

Yea

[@nicholasasbury8711]

And yet they still can't fix simple coding on ai to keep them from building 180 villagers and 20 military or use all their population on naval with a single scout and 2 spears to defend on land 😂

[@asadmuhammad4806]

I don't like how it looks, it looks like a mobile game, a bit cartoonish or whatever u call it.

[@qwera48]

If you guys remember when AoE 3 was launched, oh god. But with time they fixed it thank god

[@CloverChilling]

They just Mixed Castle seige with Aoe2 DE

[@Shinobito1]

It is still on my Steam wish list. Lately I picked Return of Rome for AoE2, so this one has to wait a bit longer .

[@goodusername7037]

Balance wasn’t issue, it was some quality of life features were missing and most of the people who bought the game came from different Age titles, they didn’t like the game, so they went back to their original game

[@grumpyjester]

It's a shame what a bad launch can do to a game.

[@kingsguard5614]

Idk it seems like aoe2 v.2 I as aoe3 enjoyer just cant get used to it otherwise I would have played aoe2

[@Mr.Postal]

i stole a Cd from my teacher and tricked the Copysafty of the cd and managed to copy it and even mod the files that every install haves an full game prepared to play

[@ObiwanNekody]

Age 4 needed to be this good on or very shortly after release to pull people away for AoE2. It's missed it's window, which is a shame because I think it's core is an excellent refinement of AoE2 and possibly superior.

[@albusnightspring8057]

I never played it because you can't place buildings wherever you want

[@thericehatwok2375]

Keep on selling it Merlin we need that player cap to rise

[@SeiMoonZz]

playing it almost everyday with my buddy against AI mainly ridiculous and Sometimes Outrageous and we are playing the Megarandom map generator . Its fun everytime and very unpredcitable

[@PhaxtolgiaLegacy]

The problem was the opposite: too much focus on competitive multiplayer with only casual content like campaign as the afterthought. The truth is most gamers are casuals, RTS games ESPECIALLY.

[@Yamaazaka]

Idk why id ever play the game. Aoe 3 looks better and it came out like 20 years earlier.

[@alex_zetsu]

Age of Empires 2 wasn't intended to be competatively balanced... I mean the fact that they expected most multiplayer games to be LAN games should tell you what kind of audience they expected. This was just a very happy accident

[@YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt]

thats an interesting take on the player count. it hasnt gone up significantly in over a year. it dropped off after launch and has never really been able to recover. great game and absolutely love it but the player numbers dont show the game turning around they show it staying about the same and in the last 30 days slightly lower even

[@IvanIvanoff-d4p]

Makes two sequels that literally cant scratch aoe2

[@DanielJackson98]

Of course, it’s the competitive sweats that don’t like it but I mean they don’t like anything so who cares?

[@endoflevelboss]

No save in multiplayer = suck

[@d_no_allyn_86]

Once I saw what it really looked like, I was so disappointed. It would be awesome if the guys who made company of heroes and the original blizzard guys did an aoe game.

[@Fpsconoseur]

i used to play aoe 2 with my friends years ago 4 came out and we all bought it and didnt like it , we started playing it like 3 months ago and i must say the game feels nice.

[@hansky_vlr]

They messed up the history of Mongols and Ottomans because they based their historical knowledge on 18th century German and British historian writings about these nations. For example the whistling arrow is founded by Mete Han, in ancient Chinese "Mòdú Chānyú" which were the leader, khan of Turkics. Arch nemesis of Mongols (and Chinese). Not by Mongols. However, older European historians didn't know Mongolian, any Turkic language and most importantly, Chinese so they wrote accordingly to other European historians assumings such as historians from Byzantine etc which includes many, many errors and misunderstandings. (This is also why Early-European historians thought Turkics were Mongols/Mongoloid as well😅.) The developers worked with a really old historian so thats another reason for these wrong facts since his knowledge wasn't up to date. For Europeans it isn't important but you can understand why it made many native players from these nations or history fans mad. Many people just tried the game but gets fed up after coming across their culture is represented wrong. That's why not even Ottomans were didn't fulfilled the expectations for Microsoft. Unfortunately there is not fix for this because this problem have really deep roots. For anyone interested I'm a historian who knows both all Turkic languages even including Gagauz language, old Turkic, Mandarin, A few dialects of ancient Chinese (can do Hanyu Pinyin) and Mongolian. Age of empires games were always had issues regarding "non European" civilizations but since the games were old it was normal. But for AoE4, it's unacceptable.

[@SisuBjörk]

why play 4 when there's 2, they should have made 4 ww1 game.

[@ironcrapprgaming]

I think the timeline reset in AoE4 killed it more than the lack of civs and campaigns. In AoE2, we have a lot of campaigns and time killers. In AoE3, we had a step forward in the timeline. Which split people either for or against it. The fact that aoe4 restarted the time line withput really bringing anything ground breaking. Besides up dated game play an civs. Really has hurt the title im sonstoked aoe 2&4 are on xbox wish 3 was as well. Fingers crossed the age of mythology console port isnt a flop.

[@jacobmartin9021]

I don't understand why AOE2 and AOE4 need to compete. Plenty of other series have both classic and modern games played competitively.

[@UnshotSpy]

I just want AOEO back officially man. It was awesome, I still play it from time to time thanks to project celeste but it just isnt the same.