My Honest Opinion of HRE in AOE4...

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@Justin-cn3qu 10 ай бұрын

They need a 2 shottable 40 food aoe naked berserker in feudal that is nearly the speed of horseman to contest open maps. Or something fun idk. A feudal landschnekt

@f1scher209 10 ай бұрын

For most levels of gameplay, HRE in team games, especially where most people arnt doing a ton of feudal pushing, can be very strong. Very easy to poach 4-6 relics in big games which supports a ton of gold income and helps avoid exposure on trade or resource contests. Chapel + farms in late game = almost infinite food. If you can get to Imperial and have transitioned to farms, you can basically just print units, and their MMA are pretty decent against most unit types. Paired with siege, its good. MMA trade well with alot of heavy units. I find that in longer team games where 50-60% of the game is in Imperial, HRE can just simply out produce alot of civs, especially as gold resources become limited and/or trade gets disrupted. I also find that if you rush Castle and get MMA into the eco/base of most other civs by 10-11 mins, they rarely have units to counter strong armored units. 6-10 MMA before someone has gone to castle (outside of Zhugnu) can be a big issue for someone in fuel to handle. I struggle w/ them in 1v1. Feudal pushes are just not easily defendable, and naked castle rushing is dangerous in 1v1. You get caught in feudal too long, your innate advantages of a castle rushing civ just fall away and you get overwhelmed quickly.

@ishmaellobaello5349 10 ай бұрын

Hey Beasty. Just wanted to let you know how much I love your videos and stream. I started to follow you just before AoE4 was released and you still played some SC2 but I definitely follow you for your personality and gameplay regardless of the game you play. Thanks for sharing your opinion for my favorite civ and your build orders helped me a lot. Always looking forward to the next one. Have a good one 😄

@maxshultz6502 10 ай бұрын

A lot of civs have sustainable gold eco that is not dependent on trade, such as free units, tac, farm gold, etc. But HRE, if you don't secure relics and get the age up with more gold, then it's gg

@CrommVardek 10 ай бұрын

On the other hand, you get 4 or 5 relics, it's almost auto-win...

@JoseLeybaDiaz 10 ай бұрын

Only noobs think like this. Most likely a platinum noob. Lmao

@maxshultz6502 10 ай бұрын

@JoseLeybaDiaz lol 😆 so having additional sources of Gold is only for noobs?

@unclientrandom5371 10 ай бұрын

@@JoseLeybaDiazwow guys look at Jose he is so cool and good at the game !

@tylerpritschau8191 10 ай бұрын

Do you think moving the mace upgrade to feudal would be a good change?

@ltuser420 10 ай бұрын

NOPE! That would be too op for feudal. There'll be no counter.

@romegypt5675 10 ай бұрын

@@ltuser420 knights would still counter.

@carlod5818 10 ай бұрын

@@romegypt5675 wouldnt maces, the upgrade that increases dmg to armored, quite litterally only change the knigth matchup ? maybe other early men at arms but who goes early men at arms or men at arms vs hre in general

@gonzaloezequiel4300 10 ай бұрын

Hre is good if you get more than 10 sheeps fast, theres a build in 3v3 and 4v4 to reach castle age min 11/12, from there you switc to farms and abuse with man at arms, its really a good civ imo if you get used to it

@jarlwilliam9932 10 ай бұрын

Unless you getting rushed, you should be reaching castle in six and half minutes.

@alakadabraz 10 ай бұрын

Chapel becomes a drop off point and generates resources per minute based on how many resources have been dropped off to it. So once all the resources have been exhausted around it and its not worth running to, it still holds some passive income value lategame.

@cyrano-5539 10 ай бұрын

and then meintwerk being shitter than he already is lol

@SP_A_C_E_D 9 ай бұрын

You build farms around it and surplus food for gold.

@LIONHEARTE944 8 ай бұрын

The new meinwork buff and the infantry marching drills for free makes for a decent hre fedual

@krishg8647 10 ай бұрын

I think memework should have the anti-heavy mace upgrade available in feudal which will allow it to counter civs going castle and to a lesser extent knights too 😊

@ikaruschan1305 10 ай бұрын

HRE is the Chikorita of AoE4 starter civ

@duckbeakdog8843 10 ай бұрын

cyndaquil is england and totadile is france?

@-Eternal-Damnation- 9 ай бұрын

Is Chikorita bad? I never played Pokémon really

@duckbeakdog8843 8 ай бұрын

Chikorita is the least popular of the trio, but equally strong, and most unique@@-Eternal-Damnation-

@RedTRM 8 ай бұрын

@@duckbeakdog8843 well, chikorita is worse in Johto games but that's because of the game design, stat wise and stuff it's not worse its just due to gym types that it is

@misterstaple 10 ай бұрын

HRE is bad unless beasty plays it

@basartekin9577 10 ай бұрын

Anything is deadly on beasty's hand.

@MongolordD 10 ай бұрын

HRE is pretty good in castle/imp. The problem is getting there without taking damage or dying. I think in lower leagues HRE is fine, easy to play.

@JoseLeybaDiaz 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, its a POS civ. Germans are bad honestly

@unclientrandom5371 10 ай бұрын

@@MongolordDI'm stuck at low lvl diamond with it. I really love this civ really

@noopek 10 ай бұрын

Can you post latest tier list ?❤

@john41690 10 ай бұрын

February 2024 has a tier list video if I recall

@Joek9100 10 ай бұрын

He very recently posted one

@dreaducategaming 10 ай бұрын

I would love for chapel to get the Grand Winery eco upgrades treatment

@2384Penta 10 ай бұрын

Isn't this a great idea for the man at arms? "Roman legions used an extreme type of shield wall called a testudo formation that covered front, sides and above. In this formation, the outside ranks formed a dense vertical shield wall and inside ranks held shields over their heads, thus forming a tortoise-like defense, well-protected from missile weapons" [Source: wiki]

@rfmvoers 10 ай бұрын

HRE is not the actual Roman empire. The HRE was a loose collection of medieval German states, who called themselves the Holy Roman Empire for some reason.

@MikefromBB7 10 ай бұрын

@@rfmvoerscuz the emperor was technically coronated as ‘Roman emperor’ by the pope, thus the name of the empire.

@sniperjelly9537 10 ай бұрын

Wrong Roman my dude

@theokaraman 5 ай бұрын

not Holy not Roman not Empire

@Ferienpapst 10 ай бұрын

I want the same form Abba. Camel support in age 2 or composite bow

@IskoJakobsson 10 ай бұрын

Im I the only one who thinks the devs shouldnt touch HRE? feel like they are neither strong nor weak. If they would do anything it should be to buff meinwerk and maybe nerf palace of swabia(spelling?).

@ned8896 9 ай бұрын

New military units perhaps?? Still the only civ (along with OOTD which is expensive HRE) with *one* unique military unit. It's fucking stupid how fucked over HRE has been.

@IskoJakobsson 9 ай бұрын

@@ned8896 Yes but they are already strong enough with maybe the three strongest landmarks in the game. Aachen, regnitz and palace of swabia which is ultra strong. With a good Aachen spawn between two tree lines there is also the possibility to go pure Archer in feudal, which nobody does, since you will have more wood than any other civ in the game.

@ned8896 9 ай бұрын

@@IskoJakobsson Fine, nerf the landmarks. In return HRE get Teutonic knights, Holy paladins (because why not?) Crusaders, Black riders, Ritterbrúders, Dragoons and Inquisitors.