Age of Sigmar Lore: Lumineth Part 5

[@tabhamma4451]

In Soviet hysh, mountain comes to you!

[@settratheimperishable7800]

I am a huge fan of the original Warhammer Fantasy and know the Elven lore of Ulthuan like the back of my hand at this point. Even with all that I think that the mountain and cow aesthetic works wonders for the Lumineth. If you were to ask my interpretation I would say that the mountain not only represents tranquility and defense but it also represents a bedrock for a new generation to build upon. In order to truly build to new heights one must first build a strong and sturdy foundation. What better teacher then than the mountain? As for the bull symbolism; the bull is a strong animal that uses its strength and size to protect itself and those around them. They can tank hits and when push comes to shove they charge head on. Such is the way of the mountain.

[@nightsage217]

still cant get over the fact elves are much better attuned to the mountains than the dwarves. XD

[@ErrdilPhalar]

I love the idea behind the bull and mountain aesthetic, but I still hate the goofy top-heavy helmets.

[@luminethmage9361]

Good point about mountain spirits being the best counterpoint to the pre-Reinvention culture, and therefore making sense to being brought out first. I’ve played HE since the 4th edition, and love the lore and models of the Alarith. I think for many former HE players the problem is not so much that the Alarith are bull inspired as such - but that they are not the dragons, phoenixes, lions they loved and lost. And the marketing campaign with the Pointy Elf Video and then the pretty goofy game-showy reveal didn’t help. It could be interpreted that GW was making fun of people. But now quite a lot of people seem to like the Alarith. Hopefully we’ll see the rest of the temples eventually. The Wind Spirits seem to have fox like masks.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I like how the mountain takes a long time to meditate on but the water spirit is basically instant. Shows the patience needed to truly get what mountains stand for

[@doominator4072]

I’d love to see other elementary troops

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Aelementari*

[@michaelblower7363]

Well we've yet to see the River and Zenith temples if there is any. :)

[@dlastkatipunero2185]

Aelementari, my dear Watson

[@dylanbland1908]

@@dlastkatipunero2185 I know I’m a bit late, but good one

[@theknightofzen347]

I see you couldn’t resist the temptation to get a moo-related pun in there. 😂 I’m building the army set for my son to use next time we play. I’ll be breaking out as many Dad jokes as I can about the moooovement phase. 😂😂😂 I’m sure he’ll find them hilarious.

[@patjacksonpodium]

"Well I didn't make 'em. Did you make 'em?" "Naw I didn't make 'em bro, what's up?" 😂 There's something about an Aelf saying bro that just slays me. You have earned that like, sir. 😂

[@beardhammerwargaming]

I'm so excited to paint all of the Alarith units = D - Beardy

[@joshuaturnquist5538]

While domestic cattle aren't normally associated with mountains, Yaks are native to the Himalayan mountains. I thought the spirit was a giant yak man.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I thought it was an oxe. Cause oxes be strong

[@codygriffin8256]

I'll wait for the Tyrion side before I decide if I want them. He's always been my preferred twin. Lol

[@willangeroc]

The wind spirit is actually specifically mentioned in the book (the construct version of it anyway) to have a fox aspect to it. So we do know what the theme for wind is!

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

How are foxes associated with winds of all things?

[@grim9657]

Honestly I just want one of those large bulls to convert it in to an avatar of hashute

[@SaturmornCarvilli]

The Alarith were the main reason I am starting a Lumineth army. So much so that it is even dictating my paint scheme. I am going with Ymetrica and staying pretty faithful to how GW painted everything. I like the Alarith because they are such a break from the generic fantasy elf cliche (mostly by treading on what are typically dwarf cliches). Additionally, I am geologist so the mountain aspect obviously is something I am very interested in. The aesthetic doesn't bother me at all. I quite like it and can hardly wait until September to finish my army.

[@CLAREROMVoid]

Man, I love these aelves, my goodness... their hubris cast mostly aside to become one with the land... aelves shamans practically. All their race's obsession channeled towards not their self-satisfaction, but their home. So dope. I love AOS for its creatures heheh, I miss wolves and bears though, dracolines already have the feline aspect that I like. Stormcast have bear and lion from Azyr marking their armor sometimes, I wish I could use these awesome beasts in my army.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Well maybe they'll make a plains Aelementari with Dracolions. Who knows?

[@kentblacklidge9416]

I’m with you. I love the ideas presented. Great mix between the Eldar and Avatar (Nickelodeon tc series) but with a solid AoS spin on it. At the same time I think GW missed a great opportunity for community input. Would’ve been great for them to explain the link like you just did and ask the community what creature would represent the element. I do think the bull was already represented in GW/Forgeworld lines so there’s a bit of a miss but the models are still amazing.

[@beardhammerwargaming]

Thank you that I'm not the only one seeing the comparison to Avatar xD Avatar is the reason why I will paint the aelementor Units in the different state colours xD - Beardy

[@StormcastMarine]

Mountain goat horns please, I love the Lumineth box, but I'm not getting bulls

[@donaldkelly9833]

Thanks, they are are a neat looking faction. Hope players start getting access to some of the remaining units once 40k wraps up the 9th release

[@harryquint7262]

I think for something like a river or just water Elementari in general a Swan aesthetic might look cool

[@MrMbreault]

Commented something similar on one of your prior videos but doesnt it seem odd that given everything you just said about how these Alarith are like monks that made peace and developed a symbiotic relationship with the mountains that they are still like "give me some of that good aetherquartz"?

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I feel like it depends on how you view it. If you emphasise the drug aspect of it then yeah it makes little sense but if you look at how it can calm if not outright erase emotion it does make sense to me

[@InquisitorThomas]

I like the Bull motif, but I feel the place they put the horns look a bit top heavy and silly, personally I would have put the horns closer to the base instead of the top.

[@Bandgelo]

Love the Bull Helmets - if I collect LRL it will be a focus on all the earth models.

[@gabrielspangler6964]

i wish they had at least one more specialty unit for another element type. something along with the alareth to help flesh out the different paths they might follow

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

The addition of bulls to their aesthetic seems to be for the same reason that the Daughters of Khaine got snake people and the Idoneth Deepkin got soul hungry aquatic people. Bulls, serpents and fish/crustaceans are all connected to Slaanesh, and all these new aelves now.

[@chaosincarnate954]

I love the idea of elemental aelves I’m thinking their introduction is the beginning of an eventual split between order and the aelves and they’ll have their own faction. You will be able to use the LRL in a stormcast role being allied with all aelves in their own faction.

[@oliviercoosemans2120]

People have problems with aelfs that are armed with hammers but don't have a problem with dwarfs on (flightless) dragons or a dwarf community that lives in the skies... just give it a couple of months and everybody will accept it.

[@MrVidma1]

Noone had problems with white lions with axes which is not so elf weapon, I see stonguard unit as white lions of fantasy

[@jonathanwhyborne3031]

Really enjoy your content and delivery.

[@Blair4456]

“Mooooooooooooveee” I see what you did there

[@judebrill23]

I live in Tennessee and I can see the relationship between mountains and livestock, cattle specifically, so I'm hyped for getting My battle cattle. But My question is how do I forge a narrative for My Lumineth Realm-Lords army? I want to be creative with the look of My army but I want to not abandon the theme of the faction. Thanks for the videos Doug.

[@ArkBlanc]

I’ve mentioned it in another of your Lumineth videos, but I really want to see Lumineth units based on Ghyran, especially those mountain elementari.

[@headnut57]

That video realy improved my moooood

[@ruecumbers]

I always associated cows with stability, strength, and an earnest kind of prosperity. In the context of these elves it also feels very humbling compared to traditional lion or dragon motifs. I think the choice of mountain cow was the best they could have made given the whole Spirefall affair.

[@thehillz726]

While I think it's an odd choice, I like it. It's unique as elf astetics go. But based on my experience in farming, cattle don't like mountains. If there's any greenery down hill they're more likely to go there. I feel the mountain goat or a badger / wolverine are more likely animals to find up there that exude a similar meaning. Also the chaos dwarves had there own bull theme. If they ever come back ot would be interesting to see the two factons interact

[@NCcody811]

The bull seems okay, but the hammers seem like they're encroaching on the dwarves turf.

[@H240909]

If dwarves can live in the sky, elves can have hammers.

[@Dreadnautilus]

I'd actually like it if the river aelementari were themed after chinese dragons/lungs. In the original mythology they were heavily associated with water and it'd make a cool model.

[@LyubenV]

I like the ideas and lore more than the models it feels like. The super long spears look a nightmare to transport, the Teclis model looks bad, the heroes dont look great, the bull guys helmets are ridiculous, the bull spirit is actually cool Imo

[@cesarpallincourt9987]

It’s not really the bull aesthetic that i don’t like but the ridiculous bull head perched on top of an already long ass helmet completed with a pair of ginormous horns. That’s just too much. The lore is cool otherwise

[@xavier84623]

I like the big bulls lol

[@soneca798]

I was one of the people who really was not a fan of the bull aesthetic, but not because of the bull itself. I think the elemental giant in and of itself is kinda cool as something similar to the wraithbone constructs from 40k, but what really disappointed me is that I was really expecting to see some updated Swordmasters. Although now that we have the bigger picture and we know that the other elements are going to be a thing as well hopefully we'll get to see swordmasters for the wind or water elites

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Anyone whose seen cows graze or plough a field will get exactly why they're associated with cows in thus

[@mrsandman1815]

Can you show your conversation ideas? I'm in the same boat, if like to change them up a bit

[@steamtruck6961]

I'd just remove the bull helmet- ornament. Always prefered minis to look somewhat practical for battle anyways

[@drich.5984]

Great set of videos, appreciate the info. I have one question though... what would I do if I wanted my Lumineth based out of Aqshy, realm of fire? Unlike several other factions these guys seem to only be in the realm of light, unless it's the field of battle elsewhere. The Orruks travel everywhere, Fyreslayers have lodges everywhere, Idoneth have underwater cities in multiple realms, Cities of Sigmar are all over, and so on. Would it be against the lore if I made my Lumineth from Aqshy? I would love to do one of my mountain cows as a volcano

[@tiyangina3571]

I dont know whether this comment may come much too late but you can make a volcano mountain cow as a Hysh creature. The lore behind them states, that they are vessels for elemental spirits of mountain ranges- a volcano can be a mountain range, and there are volcanos in Hysh (the world) so its not against the lore to stay in Hysh. Specifically making an Aqshy Realmlord however might not work. Because it is specifically the realm of hysh that makes them... well... realmlords. If they started becoming one with Aqshy instead of Hysh, they would turn into hotheaded people, not the tranquil, harmony seeking aelves they are shown to be ^^

[@drich.5984]

@@tiyangina3571 the comment was not too late at all, and I appreciate it :)

[@codygriffin8256]

I just. .want to bury my fyreslayer axe in that giant bull..... And Teclis.

[@zerogravityhead1]

Well, the Lumineth are connected to the moon right? Cows are also connected to the moon too, look at their horns that imitate a half-moon. I think that's why it's a cow.

[@TheBrimfire]

thing with cows/bulls they mostly fight when they cant run away and thats the problem they arent stand your ground (except mating) animals they are run animals like horse... so the bull thing its just me.

[@InvinciblKillerQueen]

I woulda gone with goats, personally, but bulls are alright

[@CLAREROMVoid]

So... wait... if they are literally mountains... that means they would be huge models on the battlefield... like... larger than class titans mechs from the Adeptus Mechanicus, at least lorewise xD

[@H240909]

That’s not what he said.

[@CLAREROMVoid]

@@H240909 But that's what they are non? Mountain spirits in shaped bodies of stone and earth from their mountain ranges.

[@H240909]

​@@CLAREROMVoid No, they are spirits, literal ideas given consciousness by magic. They can be as big or as small as they want, so long as their "body" represents what they represent.

[@thewayfarer8849]

The mooove got a snort out of me, I'll admit >.

[@cultist1762]

I think people just don't like the Bull Helmets because they look silly. As for the elemental stuff I think it's neat it has a Avatar the Last Airbender nations feel, though I think people were hoping for more light and enlightenment with a more Athans feel. I have always been more of a Dark Elf person myself ever since I read the Malus Darkblade books and wouldn't want them to change a thing about that society.

[@joshuacarter4590]

I just hate the croquet mallets… for elves…

[@keithrimer8415]

I don’t mind the bull aesthetic, in fact it’s the logical choice.... after all, how else will they eventually worship Hashut? You gotta start somewhere.....😉

[@capatialvinjohn2753]

But isn't the Spirit of Nature ALARIEL? so if they become "one with nature" , they become WOOD ELVES too?

[@Spacefrisian]

She is life and the forest i think.

[@udahkubamba9751]

It's like in the supermarket, you have the meat and freeze corridor, the vegetables & fruits, packed goods and cans and the most important Liquor & booze.

[@sirloin869]

So,neckbeards dislike the cow thing because old slaanesh lore was bovid -where old greater daemons of slaanesh were cows in lingerie with crab claws...

[@GDL1181]

Ok. So this guys are yak-elves?

[@InquisitorThomas]

They’re Pointy Aelves

[@doominator4072]

Who can these guys ally with?

[@2Tough]

Idoneth deepkin only

[@doominator4072]

2+Tough damn had a great idea for a force of these guys and sylvaneth. Like the forces of nature combined, oh well

[@MrNyerk]

Thanks you for your video. I do think that bulls are a great representation of the quality of mountains, so yeah, they are appropriate bodies for mountain spirits. Strength and tranquility, stoicism and resilience, that works for me. However, I'm a bit disappointed with the choice of weapons for the aelves themselves. Bull with hammer? Why not. Stoneguards with hammer? No way. Crushing is not the aelvish way of punishing their opponents. I understand that they choose the hammer to go along with the mountains/bull strength theme, but they could have chosen other weapons. Living in the Alps myself and having witnessed avalanches many times, I can tell that the scars they made are more like an axe cut than a hammer impact. Then my personal opinion regarding helmets: they are horrible. I thought it was impossible to make minis look more moronic than the archers (sentinels?), but they did try and succeed with the stoneguard. There is no way they can keep their head straight with such an idiotic, high center of mass. Even if I could give a free pass to this physics non-sense, I can't swallow such an unaesthetic disproportion.

[@udahkubamba9751]

Sounds like last air bender a lot. I mean almost a ripoff of the myth cosmogony of that series. I'm not sure that's make them unique or not, but sure is very different from other worlds or ambience elves.

[@AnonymousPsych]

It's a yak kami. No, really.

[@nalrashido]

Isn't Kami Japanese for God or Divine Spirit?

[@AnonymousPsych]

Yup. Often local spirits, as in the spirit of a particular waterfall, rock, tree, mountain etc. Or, famously, wind, of course ('kamikaze').

[@dlastkatipunero2185]

Offensive to whom?

[@QuantemFear]

For the algorithm

[@TheBrimfire]

thing is all this was allready there Swordmasters Mages Loremasters its not a new invetnion of the wheel its just high elves with less units and beefheads... insted of a hawk you got foxy love cows for tanks and next will be dugongs for water mounts and some weirdo fire chicken and dont forget the kangarroo thunder form down under or so -.-

[@Ankhakaru]

I sincerely enjoy your videos. However due to your lack of experience in fantasy I forgive you & your inability to understand who the High Elves were. My 1st High Elf unit was a Prince on an Elven warhorse, I was 8 years old. I'm 36 years old now & still have over 2000 points of High Elves & now I have no idea what to do with them.

[@pandorassocks7996]

First comment! Wooooo!

[@grim9657]

Honestly I just want one of those large bulls to convert it in to an avatar of hashute

[@udahkubamba9751]

Do it man, that's gonna be awesome!