What the actual feck is up with Cortez?!Dude looks pissed at his own sculpt.
@silentsorrowbane3 ай бұрын
complete ass model
@bignorthmxo33503 ай бұрын
Gave him a wig and diaper power armor, then took away a lot of his bling while at it.
@metalheadsrb22143 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same. Such a downgrade man.
@TheSegert3 ай бұрын
Coteaz looks fat. Hes gotted fat
@PerfectionHunter3 ай бұрын
Probably the new dei intern from sweet-b-i in charge of his design.
@brianaltamura42133 ай бұрын
The old Coteaz model looks better than the new one!
@helios71703 ай бұрын
Agreed. The new one looks meh. First thing I thought was, “hmm.. wonder how much the OG version is on eBay?”
@James-qr5hx3 ай бұрын
Agreed. The new one is so boring. So many things "shaved off" making him really bland.
@andrejjelcic36753 ай бұрын
Yep buy it while its still cheap.
@godconvoy3 ай бұрын
The old one was goated, while this one looks like a goat chewed on it.
@IrateWizrd3 ай бұрын
By far. What a downgrade...
@wonderdog88953 ай бұрын
That Coteaz miniature is bloody horrendous. Also, no new Grey Knights mini's... hope we see them get a full range do-over with their own codex next year.
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
Would be peak GW to offload old models with the Malleus box, only to release new sculpts with their own Codex next year. They did similar thing with the Deathwing Knights (there were some old ones in the Wrath of the Soul Forge box in 2023)
@StephenHenryIV3 ай бұрын
What’d they do to my boy Coteaz?
@ChapterMasterValrak3 ай бұрын
Baby Grow Coteaz.
@urilacambrafrias3 ай бұрын
He's got fatty legs, enormous crotch up to the chest, and plain, ugly armour. And that face.... no mother could love it! They should have made him look like in the iconic Daemonhunters cover art!!!!
@RealJahzir3 ай бұрын
GW is bad at faces
@SoulCrusherEx3 ай бұрын
Bro I was thinking the same... The new model looks super ugly... I prefer the old Coteaz
@stanisawluty86713 ай бұрын
The armor is absolutely awful. It looks bulky and toyish. Also the overall model is bland
@nickshipley7323 ай бұрын
I can’t believe Coteaz has had a hair transplant, he was bald on the original 😂
@jet_flyer3 ай бұрын
It's due to faith in the Emperor you heretic
@Sonof_DRN20043 ай бұрын
It looks like they painted him skin head. You could probably leave him bald.
@ShadowPhoenixMaximus3 ай бұрын
Who needs a flash grenade when you can have a glorious glossy grand bald head, to redirect the emperor's light on the heretics.
@samhunter12053 ай бұрын
Those rejuvenat treatments working well then . . . I actually like that from a lore point of view
@nickshipley7323 ай бұрын
@@samhunter1205 lore wise it’s great, but I’m not a fan of the model at all, looks like a stumpy stormcast with the odd inquisitor emblem
@madmerlinsart3 ай бұрын
As a friend of mine said, Coteaz looks like a first-generation Stormcast. As for Grey Knights, it's been confirmed we'll get a book next year. As for Deathwatch, 4 unique profiles are in agents, and apparently, there will be a way to still field a full DW army using Codex Space Marines.
@GrimmDork3 ай бұрын
I'm hoping it's overwise, but I think they were just implying you could use codex space Marines and take your handful of bespoke DW stuff as your imperial allies. Hopefully everyone who had the mixed teams has enough guys to break them out into their own squads 😢
@tiberiumnp80303 ай бұрын
Yeah basically by playing black armored Ultramarines. Good bye Spectrus kill team and the others.
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
@@tiberiumnp8030 No reason you couldn't do black armoured Dark Angels, or in the future, Blood Angels, Black Templars, Space Wolves...
@gi1dor3 ай бұрын
Well, from what we know, you can, but in a very limited way. Up to 2 kill teams per army (and we also don't know which are even available), up to 2 DW unique characters and no unique DW detachments. Even not clear if you can use Corvus Blackatar in your SM army
@tiberiumnp80303 ай бұрын
@@ArynCrinn Seems like you completely missed my point.
@EPGelion3 ай бұрын
Blackstone Fortress continues to do some heavy lifting.
@godconvoy3 ай бұрын
We're getting most of them as single models now. We're still missing the Eldar, the two ratlings, the robot, and the Rogue trader himself.
@EPGelion3 ай бұрын
@@godconvoy And the rogue trader from, was it Escalation?
@godconvoy3 ай бұрын
@@EPGelion, I'm not sure about that one.
@sebastianhovenas2723 ай бұрын
Honestly not a fan of the new Coteaz model. It's not as ostentatious or decorated as the old one, no six pack breastplate, the fur/cape should be more like the old one and i prefer the old pose aswell. He just looks way to bare for my liking. To me this looks more like a stormcast conversion than what GW should have made. Also, WHY DOES HE HAVE HAIR!
@Samrestion3 ай бұрын
Ok i'm an Admech player....i didnt think i would ever say this: That Coteaz is worse that the Skratos....
@The_Penguin_89643 ай бұрын
Admech player here, I'll say it's 50/50🤦🏻♂️
@IdioticSynergy3 ай бұрын
This is the laziest codex reveal ever. Like c'mon, there should be new unique and strange units and a custom inquisitor that you can build from scratch
@ChapterMasterValrak3 ай бұрын
Mate, they've given up on the hype, absolute dog shit.
@BloodyArchangelus3 ай бұрын
about INQUISITION INQUISITION Gw are heretics confirmed
@pedrodontyoumind38203 ай бұрын
@@ChapterMasterValraklet’s just hope they actually pull their weight with the next releases…
@Epsilvonic3 ай бұрын
Was really hoping they’d bring back the Inquisitor in Terminator Armor unit
@timunderbakke87563 ай бұрын
I would have been 100% hyped for custom inquisitor multipart kits. I just…. I don’t know, I guess I don’t care? Maybe someday I buy a grey knight kit just so I can try it and laugh at psykers joining Templars in battle? I really don’t see a huge incentive for it. And these battleforces are a new low - every box before hand has at least been good for a NEW player to the codex, even if veterans may complain about some of them. These boxes are so low hanging nobody will want them. That said, if I can pick off the malleus one in the bargain bin someday I might.
@TheDimonTube3 ай бұрын
That golden power armor is way too clean for my liking, look almost like a Stormcast kitbash. Wish it had the option of the eagle on his arm.
@BloodyArchangelus3 ай бұрын
After new AOS sculpts and Dante - it is a disgrace
@regalgiant15973 ай бұрын
People gotta be honest with themselves when they see Coteaz and think AoS, anyone who doesn't is a liar.
@arcus95903 ай бұрын
@@regalgiant1597 We've come full circle
@WARSMITHAFROW3 ай бұрын
I actually like the cleaner look
@ieat10kittens943 ай бұрын
You realise you can paint the model a different colour?
@stefankrunic81883 ай бұрын
Well done Valrak, you were right again! But I have to say this: One sorry model that is not an upgrade from the last is the only thing they have revealed when it comes to model this whole summer. It's getting disappointing. Like they are releasing an entire new codex and all we get is one new model. That's really sad really. I hope future is much more brighter.
@ChapterMasterValrak3 ай бұрын
Like I said mate, proper missed opportunity, should have had more Inquisitors models.
@stefankrunic81883 ай бұрын
@@ChapterMasterValrak You said it all well mate. Shock troopers would be nice, some few more models. But hey, thanks to you, it's still fun!
@michelmartins45193 ай бұрын
@@ChapterMasterValrakwas hoping they would bring missing assassin temples from the 30k era (dunno if went extinct) or some sorta of Arbites or Navy character
@jamesmacken95013 ай бұрын
The old sculpt is so much more detailed it's not even funny, the only thing the new one has going for it is being slightly taller.
@brandtdrake22313 ай бұрын
And they stated grey knights get their own codex next year in the article.
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
But not for Deathwatch, which they describe as being able to play with Agents + Marine soup. So I really don't like chances of a DW book.
@jet_flyer3 ай бұрын
I'm fairly certain that DW won't get their own codex because they specifically commented about GK getting their own codex and didn't mention DW
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
Also, specifically calling out GK Termies and Sisters as "requisitioned" units, while DW are not.
@vectorshaman3383 ай бұрын
For new kill team players, those boxes are epic as hell. Sell the vehicles for an even bigger discount and get 3 kill teams.
@The_Penguin_89643 ай бұрын
Agents battleforce (×) Kill Team Boxset (√) 😂😂😂
@TheSegert3 ай бұрын
not if these boxes are 170 euros like the normal full boxes cost. These need to be combat patrol prices.
@BrewM12s3 ай бұрын
I am looking to get into kill team. Which one would you was the best one?
@vectorshaman3383 ай бұрын
@BrewM12s Order Xenos - You get Deathwatch, Inquisition, and Starstriders. Sell the Bird and you could sell the Imperial Navigator & Bird guy as well or add them to Inquisitor team roster. Ordo Hereticus - You get Inquisition team, Sisters of Battle Team, and Arbities Team. Sell the tank, and add the leader to Inquisition roster. (You can proxy a few of the Arbities to the Inquistion team with their special rules.) I would ignore the last box with the Grayknights, and 2 Inquistion teams. Not sure what the vehicles sell for, but depending how the boxes are priced, could be a great deal!
@BrewM12s3 ай бұрын
@@vectorshaman338 legend! Cheers mate
@Try_Again_Bragg3 ай бұрын
Imagine not ready the article where it says "Those with full Deathwatch Space Marine armies needn’t worry - they can add the Deathwatch-specific units to a Space Marine army of black-clad units like Intercessors and Terminators, melding the strong foundations and Detachments of Codex: Space Marines with themed specialists from Codex: Imperial Agents." They should have put Scions into this.
@neoisolationist87903 ай бұрын
Scions and Kasrkins. The Third Edition Daemon Hunters Codex had 'Inquisitioral Storm Troopers' as troops. Up to six squads of Kasrkins in the army. Would have been nice. Hope they do this in the upcoming GK codex. We shall see. Black and red clad Kasrkins would look great.
@Frosty44273 ай бұрын
What about the really expensive mixed Deathwatch Kill Teams we've been building the past few years? There's no mention of those at all.
@Jason-gq8fo3 ай бұрын
How do you know they're not in it?
@Try_Again_Bragg3 ай бұрын
@@Frosty4427 At least you can still use yours. My entire Deathwatch army was made illegal when 10th came out.
@Try_Again_Bragg3 ай бұрын
@@neoisolationist8790 Thats why i said Scions. Pull Scions out of guard and let Kasrkin be the option instead
@joshclark22743 ай бұрын
I genuinely HAVE to say. Valrak, your doing a great service to the Deathwatch community here. You have tried to allay fears, provide insight and help address the controversy GW themselves enabled due to a lack of tackling the rumours about the faction being folded. You have provided more information than GW has, in a much more convenient and respectful timing, so that Deathwatch hobbyists are able to plan their hobby projects and not be taken advantage of by a company who refuses to communicate so that they do not damage their sales of a product they KNOW is about to be made obsolete. GW are a bunch of con artists. GW has acted like an Ostrich until this very article has been posted. Knowing full well that people are buying the faction, but refusing to acknowledge whether the faction has a dedicated, supported future within the hobby. I think from a reputation perspective. They have damaged it? They knowingly were changing a faction to a Deathwatch collectors DETRIMENT. Ignored their customer base when they asked for answers. Then "Surprise, you dont exist as the way you wanted to and the way you were playing before is no more" And expected their fanbase to come up with reasonable answers as to why the faction was vanishing AND had fans shilling on their behalf. Rather than taking responsibility and being an open and honest company. Before people get into the "Well they are a company and need to focus on profit". Thats great when it positively affects you? but when it negatively affects you, why should you care about a companies profit margin when that profit margin doesnt include you? I can't wait to use my 20 Veterans and Artemis out of my 250+ Deathwatch marine collection. GW are smoking Meth honestly.
@ragnarokivae61363 ай бұрын
This was the mysterious redacted codex we got hyped nearly a half year ago.... One new miniature and 3 boxes with a lot of outdated models....
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
GK Terminators and Chimera are old. Next oldest are the Deathwatch veterans, Corvus blackstar and Greyfax from the latter end of 7th ed. Everything else is since then.
@I2dios83 ай бұрын
The problem with the idea that DW will get their own supplement is that SoB and GK are listed in the reveal article as Requisitioned units, whereas DW are Retinue units, making me feel like they're fully folded into this codex.
@timunderbakke87563 ай бұрын
Agree, I think the only change that may exist is that a pdf goes out saying “hey, if your chapter selection is death watch, you can ignore retinue numbers for your deathwatch models”. Or similar language to allow them to field max special stuff but not actually have any other rules, and still be playing off a codex detachment
@gi1dor3 ай бұрын
@@timunderbakke8756 they also could just add an unique DW detachment for this, at least keep status quo of 10th indexes
@horatio_3 ай бұрын
1) VindicationRak 2) what is with this Cote-e-as model??? Let’s get waffling
@SlickSodaProductions3 ай бұрын
I think the biggest things people were hoping for, myself especially, were: - Primaris-Scaled Deathwatch Units (Watchmaster, Deathwatch Veterans, Artemis) - Plastic Generic Inquisitor (fully customizable) The Coteaz model isn’t bad, but compared to the old one it really looks mediocre at best. Also, the Community Article confirms Grey Knights will get their own Codex next year. Deathwatch lost theirs permanently it seems.
@gi1dor3 ай бұрын
I hoped even for 3 non-unique multi part Inquisitors, one per ordo, maybe with different armor (cloth, power armor, terminator) .so one could mix and match them and load outs
@AlexHernandez-ee5hd3 ай бұрын
They said in the article that the Death Watch are gone. They said you can ally the specialized Death Watch units from Codex Agents of the Imperium with your own chapter of "Black clad" space marines. So the Death Watch have been removed from the space marines army.
@jaegerbomb2693 ай бұрын
Deathwatch got done dirty. At least Blood Angels will get love. 🤷♂️
@Michaelkayslay3 ай бұрын
What makes you say that? We have no official news about BA
@Nephaston3 ай бұрын
Nothing actually changed for DW. they still have to buy two books, and they can use all the models they could before. They did however get ignored on the model front.
@BloodyArchangelus3 ай бұрын
Thank hayle for that. Dante carrying blood angels on his shoulders alone.
@captainbat49023 ай бұрын
@@epiceg9464 no just like every other space marine chapter has to buy 2 codexes you also had and have to buy 2 codexes, the only difference is the codex isn't called deathwatch anymore, it's now called agents of the imperium, and you can use the other agent units. No other difference is there, and you guys also get a return of a character unit(I know it's not the same as an update, but at least you're getting something).
@HarryANuis-gi9hz3 ай бұрын
Just getting into 40K and BA some fingers crossed
@pattyspapers94403 ай бұрын
As I said, no one expects the Emperor's Inquisition. Jokes aside, I feel like they dropped the army in this way because they realized having only one new model would look a little pathetic compared to other reveals they've done recently. Like these boxes are cool but do heavily rely on existing sprues/armies. Now if they'd reintroduced Inquisitorial Storm Troopers, updated some Inquisitor Models and maybe done some new unique vehicle I think this would have been a lot cooler.
@NotaPrimarch3 ай бұрын
Coteaz looks like arse! At least we can now move onto the next batch of codexes
@samuelsanders57553 ай бұрын
Kinda mad they took my Deathwatch army and made it a Space Marine army with a couple Deathwatch models in it
@NotaPrimarch3 ай бұрын
Congrats to Foilrak for another perfect rumour call
@ryanearley87483 ай бұрын
Well now we know why they didn’t reveal this in Tacoma. Didn’t wanna get booed off the stage. Maybe DW can shine in Boarding Actions.
@spu00trb3 ай бұрын
As someone who mainly paints, I love the Malleus and Xenos boxsets. If they come with a decent discount, it will be a great way to get a nice variety of figures for the Imperium side of things. Wish they had included the callidus assassin instead! I also like the idea of the Deathwatch/Grey Knights distinguishing themselves from the Custodes/Normal Marines by being super elite marines, but which can only be a part of your force. Custodes are all super elites, Grey Knights/Deathwatch are a smidgen better than marines, but, you can't just have a whole army of them effectively. You need to partner in all these other crazy inquisition troops to try and get the job done. Honestly I think it might give back a clarity of identity which both forces have been lacking since the Custodes rocked up Imperial Guard - All mass troops Mechanicus - Some elites, some mass troops Marines - All elites Agents - Some super elites, some mass troops Custodes - All super elites
@dragonofdragons17203 ай бұрын
so long as death watch, Grey Knights and Sisters of Battle still get to have their own codex's I am fine with putting them in Agents because Agents needs them
@CaptainFancyCat3 ай бұрын
Notice how everybody is taller than the GK Terminators? You're killing me GW. As a GK player, I do really like this. Now I have an excuse to get some of those kill teams and field an agent's army.
@RevanR3 ай бұрын
The biggest take away is that Codex Grey Knights is confirmed next year
@timothylyons56863 ай бұрын
Looks as though Coteaz has been at the rejuvenate treatment.
@ShadowPhoenixMaximus3 ай бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the hair spray paint Murr used on Impractical Jokers
@Str8UpBustasGem3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I'm ok with deathwatch kill teams being agents of the imperium as a deathwatch fan. The fluff of the deathwatch has always been that they operate as a small force rather than as an army. The biggest force of deathwatch I've seen in any of the novels I've read has been 3 squads operating together, now if there is a story where a full company sized force is used, then I'd be happy to read it, but it would make sense for them to be a special forces unit that can be sent in alongside your other units.
@MrChiefchili3 ай бұрын
The 9th edition codex supplement talks about a time where three full watch fortresses mobilized to destroy an entire xenos civilization. Unfortunately there's no actual story.
@LordCrate-du8zm3 ай бұрын
I never doubted this rumor for a second. Always believe in the Foil, for its whispers always speak true.
@theTemplar083 ай бұрын
Hey, it’s the custodians all over again. They put out a mess but essentially this is a large yard sale where they’re throwing everything that won’t sell the three boxes hoping something catches your eye because they don’t want it anymore.
@Reformed3223 ай бұрын
Could and should have released a new line of elite soldiers for the codex. Its standard lore that the inquisition have elite soldiers similar to Kasrkin, Scions, etc.
@hellsong233 ай бұрын
So you can add Deathwatch models to any IMPERIUM army!? Like Guard?
@thebaron22773 ай бұрын
And Grey Knights it seems
@hellsong233 ай бұрын
@@thebaron2277 And they still get a Codex! Everyone wins!
@Dtv85643 ай бұрын
Sororitas as well
@Anthonythomas_193 ай бұрын
Brothers! I have seen the new sanguinor model. It comes as a basing kit for a chaos lord.
@paulsemple11333 ай бұрын
Love it! The new requisitioned unit rules means I can bring my brotherhood terminators to support my Black templars.
@Try_Again_Bragg3 ай бұрын
That will be fun, Crusade might be a bit of fun too.
@timunderbakke87563 ай бұрын
Yes, we can, but why do we want to? Can you show me what value the terminators have for our crusade that justifies the loss of stratagem and oath support for the terminators? In the alternate world where psychic phase and psychic actions are a thing, I think it’s an absolute hoot. But I’m not sold on them being good for my Templars right now
@paulsemple11333 ай бұрын
@@timunderbakke8756 It's quite simple, I collect both armies and I'm excited to be able to blend them together, it's fun and thematic. If I was concerned about losing stratagem synergies I probably wouldn't even be running terminators in the first place. I play for fun, not to be a sweaty meta ballbag.
@timunderbakke87563 ай бұрын
@@paulsemple1133not everyone who worries about having a cohesive army is a meta monster.
@NecroGoblin-yl2fx3 ай бұрын
if you look in the article, Sisters and GK can be takes as Requisitioned units when taking Imperial Agents for another army. SO when taking agents in an imperial army lets say SM at 2k points, we can take 2 Character, 2 Imperial agents units and a unit of Sisters or GK :D so from this perspective no DW will not get their own Codex, but GK will.
@elijahlovejoy54383 ай бұрын
Rip deathwatch also please don’t legends Gabriel Seth, GW. He’s all we have.
@Damnedlegion40k3 ай бұрын
R.I.P Deathwatch 🔥💀🔥
@Wolphen3 ай бұрын
Ugh this was the best opportunity to bring back the legion of the damned... I really had my hopes up :/
@sibbers943 ай бұрын
One of the worst looking models theyve done in a long time, poor Corteaz
@Onkel_Ranger3 ай бұрын
GK have their own Datasheet in the codex because you can field one squad in any imperium army as an agent/requisition unit
@brotherchaplainluismagana31473 ай бұрын
My condolences to deathwatch player's
@thebaron22773 ай бұрын
Honestly this kinda fits the fluff more. Deathwatch almost never deployed in full force and I don't think there have been instances where they have in lore
@chrisbeaudet52583 ай бұрын
I dont know about a deathwatch codex. The WH article specifically states that grey knights are getting their codex next year. No mention of deathwatch codex.
@BaanthVir3 ай бұрын
Been literally waiting for this army. Got into the game last year, with the plan and intention of Inquisition / IG being my main army. Heard from you about these boxes way back when and have been waiting patiently ever since for the drop...I don't want a single box now lmao.
@erih29343 ай бұрын
The article mentions both Deathwatch and Greyknights specifically. You can take the Deathwatch sheets and play them with 'black armoured Space Marines' and next year we are getting the Grey Knights' codex. No need for rumours here and expectations here. Personally I never cared for the Deathwatch and to me they never made sense as a full army, so I 'like' the change from a lore perspective, but naturally I understand frustrations from DW players. Coteaz mini makes me think if I want to get the old model before its gone...
@nathanmoore5643 ай бұрын
Glad they are able to pair up with greyknights and sisters, they should be able to take some gaurd or a squad or two of marines with them. That's what I was hoping for. So maybe I could buy some to pair with my sisters or white scars. Otherwise, I would probably have to pass if they don't allow for it officially.
@shujinzo3 ай бұрын
I like the old Coteaz more, he was holding his weapon better in the old sculpt.
@Алексей545-т6б3 ай бұрын
I love idea of Imperial version of Ynnary army where you can mix them up with inquisitor put in charge and get unic set of rules (combine with cut version of original ones from factions you take in)
@Prophetofthe8thLegion3 ай бұрын
That eagle base is awful
@Sonof_DRN20043 ай бұрын
I’m surprised that there’s an aircraft model on the combat patrol
@johnnnysilverhand98193 ай бұрын
They really have the C team working on 40k sculpts nowadays. Compare Necromunda’s recent models to these….
@yabarber69023 ай бұрын
Looking at Coteaz and Primaris marines as a whole, I am very nervous about the Blood Angels release/preview
@grailknightofenoch12633 ай бұрын
damn...that's one bad model
@Mikester883 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's unfortunate
@Dogdrule3 ай бұрын
Coteaz rocking that fresh "Lego Minifig Hair" cut
@HB2K-h8m3 ай бұрын
What do you do if you are gw and much of your capacity is tied up with the new aos edition? Quietly release a codex that's just a hodge podge of existing units. Still interested as I have lots of agents units, but without heavy support or melee I'm not sure how well the detachments will do any damage.
@thenapalmbrothershq55853 ай бұрын
I'm happy for the players who have been invested in this faction.
@fallenangel40213 ай бұрын
Death watch not really getting a codex. This is from the warhammer communtiy page The new Codex also features Watch Masters, Corvus Blackstars, and Watch Captain Artemis (returning to the range after an absence), so you can include a full Deathwatch contingent in any IMPERIUM army, complete with leaders, squads, and transports. Those with full Deathwatch Space Marine armies needn’t worry - they can add the Deathwatch-specific units to a Space Marine army of black-clad units like Intercessors and Terminators, melding the strong foundations and Detachments of Codex: Space Marines with themed specialists from Codex: Imperial Agents.
@paulhempenstall54633 ай бұрын
I already have a bunch of the models, inquistors, rogue trader kill team, deathwatch. There seems to be one unit of 5 or so that are all the boxes. I'll probably pick up the codex, see if I can put what I already own together into a small force for the tabletop.
@Nipponson863 ай бұрын
This boxes are awful. They are basically two Kill Teams + one 40k unit and characters from the Blackstone Fortress per box. It's like they're giving people leftovers :P
@stewartbobbitt58283 ай бұрын
Believe Deathwatch are dead. The problem with Deathwatch is it doesn’t sell new models. It’s mixtures from other boxes, something they’ve tried to reduce to zero. Best case is a potential release for upgrades
@betweentwogrunts24423 ай бұрын
First born deathwatch models are wild lol
@thinkabouthelogic3 ай бұрын
They dropped it this way because this isn’t a new army- it’s a re-org of a few, and if they’d made a spectacle of it, everyone would have complained loudly that it wasn’t new- it was just re-organizing existing units. Also the re-tooled model is an embarrassment. My guess on the models is that AoS just took over for the summer and this is the “bridge box” to keep 40k people on low simmer while AoS continues rollout.
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
I was actually joking a few hours on Aeldari server that there'd be a surprise Monday reveal of the whole Agents of the Imperium release... I mean... they kind of had to do this in order to make a Summer release. I had previously thought they may wait until a GenCon preview in the beginning of August, but now I think they may try and hold out until the Nova Open at the end (with the AOS Hel Crown event preview dropping online earlier in the month) That's a long time without a preview show. And the article literally talks about how you can use Deathwatch with other Space Marines to play a full Deathwatch army AND confirms Grey Knights coming next year. Seems odd to not also mention a Deathwatch book if that's happening.
@nakenmil3 ай бұрын
I'll be quite disappointed if there aren't any of the new assassin types from the Heresy era in the codex, especially since those assassin types are actually from older Inquisitor 54mm lore and so are canon to the 41st millennium too. Vanus, Venenum, etc. This Codex honestly comes off as "tideing people over", like it's merely buying time.
@Nod0nFire3 ай бұрын
Well, we just got confirmation that grey knights and Deathwatch aren’t getting new models.
@thebaron22773 ай бұрын
Grey knights are getting a codex. They will
@ArynCrinn3 ай бұрын
@@thebaron2277 And who knows, they could even pull off the same thing they did with the Deathwing Knights. Offload old stock now, new models next year.
@DaveMcMuffin3 ай бұрын
It's weird, but I think they revealed it this way because we basically already knew this was coming so there was little point trying to hype it up more.
@Britishgridironfilms3 ай бұрын
Did you read the article? (Error) 4:04. They said Grey Knights new Codex next year. Death Watch are basically folded into SM codex. Any Imperial Army can take Agents
@muratferguson45343 ай бұрын
I love to see all things put into one codex. But honestly - the Coteaz model is REALLY REALLY BAAAAAA>D
@jonscott64593 ай бұрын
Love this. It’s almost like getting the awesome old Witch Hunters Codex back.
@mitchbarton49213 ай бұрын
Sooooooo, no dark mechanicum, no emperor’s children, no iron warriors, no hrud, and no Exodites. This mystery reveal sucks! All we got was a token minor army that doesn’t even have its own range that no one was interested in!!!!!? GW!!!!!!! This is so disappointing!!!!
@InquisitorKryptman3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Inquisitorial Shock Troopers will be an option to take as retinue in the codex.
@aaronbill33 ай бұрын
The article goes into detail about the Deathwatch and limited detail about Grey Knights. Grey Knights will be getting a codex (officially confirmed ~2025) but Deathwatch will not. Codex: Imperial Agents will house Deathwatch-specific datasheets and is built to be combined with Codex: Space Marines for the purpose of fielding Deathwatch armies.
@Spawn7333 ай бұрын
"I'd be down for it." ~Valrak on shipping Lion El Johnson and Guilliman I love it ❤😂👍
@inquisitorvuln3 ай бұрын
Im sure Deathwatch will get their own codex. I saw a response to a question by GW saying that " Specific Deathwatch Units" will be able to be used in the Imperial Agents Codex. Meaning the Veterans. Theyre just trying to sell the remaining Deathwatch Vet Sprues before discontinuing them and have DW fully represented by Primaris models. (P.S: I also review the releases on my channel. Check it out if you are interested!)
@andrejjelcic36753 ай бұрын
I believe Valrak is right because we Have the Sisters Codex but they are in the Ordo Hereticus box so we will still have a Deathwatch Codex and a Gray Knights Codex.
@TheTurbanatore3 ай бұрын
I like the posing of the old inquisitor Cortez better
@trollsmyth3 ай бұрын
Is that the Blackstone Fortress Navigator sculpt in the Ordo Xenos box?
@RobertHeath-z4y3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I am going to build a deathwatch inspired space marines army now.
@IamIngoPingo3 ай бұрын
Coteaz looks like he was modelled by Disney Pixar
@T_rainz3 ай бұрын
Could someone answer this query plz. Was alpha and omega in a dispute on who to be loyal too. The emperor or horus. If its true. It would be interesting if the primarchs are coming back, it would be exciting if the brothers meet up again and see one half of the faction siding for the emperor and other half for chaos. Cival war between the faction.
@lt_jones54183 ай бұрын
I thought they may do a Deathwatch codex but not now, spot the difference here "don’t worry Grey Knights players - ...There will be a dedicated Grey Knights Codex on the way next year," against "Those with full Deathwatch Space Marine armies needn’t worry - they can add the Deathwatch-specific units to a Space Marine army of black-clad units like Intercessors and Terminators, melding the strong foundations and Detachments of Codex: Space Marines with themed specialists from Codex: Imperial Agents." no mention of a codex coming.
@johnsmith30853 ай бұрын
So…the kill teams plus a box of DW, SoB, or Grey Knights. Cool.
@yesiamarussianbot30763 ай бұрын
I find it interesting they put a first born marine kill team in the box and a Corvus Blackstar, I hope this means they will stay for a long time.
@thebaron22773 ай бұрын
Makes sense. DW vets don't need an update. They came out like a year before primaris
@RealJahzir3 ай бұрын
This feels right in terms of Inquisition warbands. I just wish the boxes didnt feel like a warehouse sale of leftover product.
@tormunnvii33173 ай бұрын
This is obv a stop gap release until they can decide on whether to refresh Scions or return to traditional Inquisitorial Stormtrooper aesthetic for the refreshed and rescaled “foundational” units for any inquisitorial Army.
@danmojo74043 ай бұрын
"These reveal streams suck, too much corporate BS that nobody cares about." - warhammer fans. "Why are they just revealing it online and not doing a stream? This sucks!" - also warhammer fans
@maxfernando15043 ай бұрын
It honestly feels like the past few years game workshops main buisness strategy is customers last, shareholders first
@kombatwombat65793 ай бұрын
A surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one. Brother Torquemada, light up the torches.
@jakewu82683 ай бұрын
Vindication Rak gonna be visiting us soon…
@Kakashi-ip8mg3 ай бұрын
Did they release the Combat Patrol?. The army sounds cool, now can it be balanced?
@thebeaconofhope44623 ай бұрын
I am pretty new to Warhammer and play Grey Knights. I am confused, what does this exactly mean for Grey Knight players? Thanks!
@nickshipley7323 ай бұрын
So is that GK and DW only with agents, or are they like an ally and get a limited choice and they’ll still get their own codex?
@andrewadamski85473 ай бұрын
Grey Knights get their own codex next year. Deathwatch are agents only, that other armies can bring in as allies.
@theTemplar083 ай бұрын
GW is going to push everything it has for deathwatch and I guarantee you 11th edition deathwatch doesn’t exist anymore in any form
@Voidlessghost3 ай бұрын
Hope they can take more than that, maybe they will. But I plan to play a rouge trader based army in a sense so seeing the full codex will be great and who know maybe there are some more models they have not shown that are new IDK I am just guessing.