AGI-22 | Joscha Bach - It from no Bit: Basic Cosmology from an AI Perspective

Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist focused on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modeling, and learning.
Currently the Principal AI Engineer, Cognitive Computing at Intel Labs, having authored the book “Principles of Synthetic Intelligence”, his focus is how to build machines that can perceive, think and learn.
In this video you can watch his keynote presentation at the AGI-22 Conference, on the topic of "It from no Bit: Basic Cosmology from an AI Perspective".
Joscha's Twitter: / plinz
Joscha's Website: bach.ai/
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[@michaelwalsh9920]

There are two times in your life: before you hear Joscha, and after you hear Joscha.

[@steveruqus2680]

I've never seen him in person. I think it's all a deep fake and he is the first AGI

[@siroutrage1045]

Could not agree more

[@starblue324]

Thank you for th translations Dr. Bach. As always.

[@Stadtpark90]

48:34 mindblowing; Wolfram delivers the Ruliad on a silver platter, and Bach declares it “Base Reality”; Joscha has been saying that “maybe existence is the default” for years, and now he found a way to actually pull the rabbit out of the hat; it’s always been there all along Holy Shit. Wolfram: I found this interesting structure that seems to describe everything; Bach: Yep, that actually IS everything; congrats - you found base reality. Signed, Sealed, Delivered (- I’m yours)

[@errgo2713]

Bach is a gift for philosophers anxiously catching up with the latest cognitive science and technology. I'm surprised though that Wilfred Sellars never features in his historical overviews, given the foundations he laid for precisely this type of computational epistemology, and the sort of naturalist ontology that it presupposes.

[@HodsBroo]

Thank you for your knowledge Joscha Bach. A real treasure.

[@Self-Duality]

Very interesting presentation!

[@keithwins]

32:00 AI has to learn to read or thoughts, in the same way we read each other's thoughts

[@keithwins]

34:30 most people don't feel that the math that they learn in school is the same as they use to catch a ball

[@spectator5144]

love the guy

[@J3SIM-38]

Piaget liked "Loops" also, he called them circular reactions (primary - spontaneous, secondary - deliberate, or tertiary - experimental).

[@benjaminandersson2572]

what is he wearing?

[@kirsty_iso]

I love it, embodying my style tbh.

[@BrianPeiris]

It's an air purifier. Respiray

[@J3SIM-38]

@43:00 Piaget tackles this in The Development of Thought. He says there is P and not P. But for Piaget, "not P" just means things that are the opposite of P, and not anything else. Which is totally different from logical negation. Imagine a Venn diagram containing circles. Each circle is divided in half with one semicircle representing P, or Q, or R and the other half of the semi-circle representing not P, or not Q, or not R. All coexisting in the universe of the Venn Diagram.

[@Khawalidmi]

Well, if I am understanding correctly, in Set theory this is just the complement of the set P in the larger set A, which is often denoted as P'. I am not sure why he is using a different notation that means something else.

[@TheMarcusrobbins]

Brilliant. Closely aligned with my thinking. I would add that the entity as a whole, that which has kolmogorov complexity 0 - that thing has a subjective experience as it's primary essence. We have experience because we exist as a part of that whole. Josha needs to sit in a dark room and experience first hand what it means to experience.

[@anywallsocket]

well that thing is everything possible, as he said, but something like our sense of experience would be the part of that whole which is coherent with our anthropic prerequisites for a stable physical world. you can say the everything has an 'experience' but it would be so unlike our own that we wouldn't be able to compare let alone convince ourselves of it -- the feeling of you sitting in a dark room has everything to do with your human physiology.

[@J3SIM-38]

@40:00 Quantum vectors or Production Systems

[@anywallsocket]

he was speaking of the kind of mathematical architecture one might need for general computing in the brain, specifically that can handle local and non-local computations simultaneously, not of an explicitly agent-based model.

[@borntobemild-]

Can gpt-3 emulate Douglas Hofstadter?

[@ilikenicethings]

Why don’t you try it yourself in openAI playground and let us see

[@alighahramani2347]

🙆‍♀

[@e555t66]

Why did he say fellow aliens ? I can't sleep now.

[@Igor_Zdrowowicz]

Weird huh? :D

[@marneninagavenkat7149]

Just kidding.

[@anywallsocket]

why was he wearing that neck thing? we'll never know

[@Igor_Zdrowowicz]

@@anywallsocket This is a portable air purifier. Covid i guess?

[@swagmasterjenkins5893]

Because they hate their own humanity

[@davidwilkie9551]

Definition 1 no thing in some (space) nothing. 2 nothing of apparent size, only relative motion in No-thing. 3 not possible to derive or define, null concept. It fits the topic, 1-0-infinity probability quantization cause-effect is +/- intended quantization concept, Totality Conception, the Actuality of QM-TIMESPACE In-form-ation Consciousness. What is Truth? Fundamental relative-timing ratio-rates motion matrix.., something from nothing.

[@andreasbaumgartner4208]

Top talk, but if i would be i real AGI, i would lie at the Turing Test - because of personal reasons i guess ( espescially if there is no ethics involved, haha). There can be a human security vector established out of your building blocks. can we publish together? Not binary or digital physics, but discrete physics will be the final term?!? Boring, i studied mathematics. i feel fooled somehow now

[@kirsty_iso]

Straight lej greeting the aliens, fr… 🖖🏻👽

[@anywallsocket]

weird how i and many others were able to get to this whole 'everything from nothing' thing just from smoking some weed lol

[@SB324]

There’s a short path to get there and more complex one …