AGM vs Lithium Ion Battery For Solar in a DIY Camper Van or RV Solar Battery Bank

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Batteries in the video: Lithium: amzn.to/2HRn5it AGM: amzn.to/2HRv9Qe

[@designlife4living547]

Hi, Sorry to raise the issue but is this a sponsored clip? As in by the lithium battery company mentiined? Just asking.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

This video is particular is not sponsored. If you have any questions about how we work with brands, we are an open book. Let us know!

[@markrigsby2107]

EXPLORIST life Very informative, video

[@markrigsby2107]

EXPLORIST life Carry more beer, my kind of people!

[@74evergrump]

Doesn't look like this lithium battery is available?

[@jayspell179]

This was the best comparison of lithium vs AGM that I've ever watched. You've totally sold me on going with lithium on my future builds, until better technology is developed. THANK YOU! I have watched hundreds of hours on tiny, off-grid living setups, and didn't learn half as much as watching just a few of your videos. Extra props on your production and editing, by the way; very professional feel!

[@kaotickrafter]

This video is freaking amazing. I am just dipping my toe into learning about powering my adventure vehicle and with zero electrical experience, I could 100% understand what you were say. Thank you for this!

[@DerekLevasseur]

You explained this very well and made sense of it for all. I just upgraded to lithium after 5 months. My AGM batteries had already started a pretty serious decline. My battery bank is smaller but I have more amp hours. I would suggest to anyone considering buying lithium batteries to watch video comparisons of them.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Hey USA patriot, Thanks so much! Cheers!

[@davekise2419]

There’s no substitute for having an accountant tell you how much something really costs. Thank you Steph (and Nate).

[@petset77]

Well put.

[@stevecleans]

The best channel for van life info by far.

[@stevecleans]

Y'all need a patreon link

[@dalekundtz4603]

Thanks for making sense of that comparison for those of us who get confused. It made sense to this old man.

[@TheCruisinCrew]

Another point often overlooked is charging rates and profiles; lead-acid batteries (that includes AGM) accept less and less current the fuller they get and they “like” to be charged fully each time, otherwise their life expectancy will drop. So you’re wasting solar capacity or generator time and fuel trying to fill them up completely every time. Lithium batteries on the other hand don’t mind not being charged to 100% all the time and accept high charging currents at any state, so charging times are shorter and much more efficient.

[@Fromatic]

I thought lithium batteries also have to charge slower as they get full, which is why electric cars can charge to 80% in say 30 minutes on fast chargers, but might take closer to 90 to fully charge as the rate drops off the closer it gets to full

[@ab-ym3bf]

True, but the like with lead based batteries lithium also needs to slowdown charging for the last 20%. As for capacity, it is a falacy to say that 100% of lithium capacity can be used, since it is advised that the firdt and last 10% of lithium should not be used on a regular basis to prevent spontaneous combustion due to short circuit. So the remaining 80% capacity is not that far off from an agm battery. What advantages remain are light weight and much faster loading times. Downside are the enormous upfront costs. So it all depends on what use one has. For full-time van life I would go for lithium. For a weekender or holiday use of the van agm will suffice.

[@petewoodhead52]

One of the clearer explanations I've heard. Nice job guys. Happy Travels.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@hunterchan8152]

Excellent conclusion at the end, Nate and Steph. Really enjoy watching and learning things from both of you. Have a good day. :) -Hunter

[@MudRFunR]

Wow, I have watched so many videos about battery comparisons. I learned more from this video than all the others combined, (give or take). Very easy to understand!

[@brettbishop6848]

You guys are awesome. Thanks you so much for this. Acquired an Westfalia 82 (my 4th bus, 44 years old, I love them well and trade with like minds) in August and battery+solar has officially filtered itself to the top of the rebuild or upgrade list. This video has been the most useful time saver for me ever. If you're ever in the Bay Area let us cook you dinner and show you our Westie!

[@TheTeloop]

Thanks for all of your solar videos. I am in the process of attempting to add solar to my 38 ft sailboat, and your videos help me tremendously! I am moving slow, however. Real estate for the panels is the biggest challenge. Thanks again for taking the time to make the videos and post them. Ben

[@Five0Music]

Excellent apples to apples breakdown! Yes, I went with the Battle Born battery. This is firmly in the “Buy Once, Cry Once” category.

[@TheJourneyest2016]

Loved both sides for the argument I never even thought about it this but it looks really helpful for those who are looking to purchase one of these

[@Rock_Bill_Kaa]

Amazing last line. Awesome easy to understand comparison.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@jasoncarnes9846]

Loving your videos! There goes my Friday!

[@gailwagner8115]

I have been trying to figure out whether the added benefits are worth the added price for us.. this was so logical and well done, way more helpful then the mumbo-jumbo I've been reading!!

[@MiniLuv-1984]

"Buy Lithium, carry more beer" - Classic! Thanks for the video - very straight forward explanation.

[@jamesborsheim9382]

You guys are ROCKIN with humor … THANX for sharing your knowledge and experiences.

[@bluesboondocker2513]

On an extremely tight budget, just purchased my short bus 7.3 turbo. Now the questions are wanting to have an emergency fund but still not ready to go without power ex; fan (fantastic) tv HDTV antenna and last but not least....COLD BEER ! Your a blessed man.. but being alone I just have so many decisions to make on a tight budget. Ideas welcome. Thanks

[@MrSharkphoto]

You had me at "more beer". Considering all important factors, like beer, money and beer, I'm going lithium. Nicely simplified.

[@flyingdutch9818]

Well put. I am about t ostart a build and have been toggling between AGM and Li every five minutes but now I’m solid on the LifeP04

[@flyingdutch9818]

PS I was crunching some numbers and realized possibly the best way to illustrate the financial advantage between AGM and LiPO4 is to quantify the ‘per cycle’ cost, given the biggest difference (apart from initial price ) is the total amount of cycles. Assuming an AGM can get 500 and a LifePO4 can get 3000-10000 (depending on the average depth-of discharge but lets use 80% discharge each cycle for the Li... giving 5000 cycles) Then the Lithium is approx 40% of the cost and that’s not including the inconvenience of replacing the AGMs up to ten times

[@bustergraybill5547]

Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos.

[@DragRacingandCarStuff]

Interesting info. Thank you. I'm researching Class B vans, and simply trying to understand the difference with the Lithium vans versus ones with a generator, and this was helpful.

[@alexandercohen1704]

I have high standards in life. You guys exceed them. Thank you.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@cliffp.8396]

This apples to apples comparison is excellent and ridiculous easy to understand, thanks for that.

[@protonneutron9046]

Thank you for presenting the simple bottom line numbers.

[@gurupurkha]

I love the clear communication. Thank you.

[@DavidHuffTexas]

Best cost/benefit comparison I've heard yet on Lithium vs. AGM. Two thumbs up!

[@offgridphilosophy7959]

Your videos are the most straight forward and comprehensive that I know of! Outstanding work!

[@johnmclaren7059]

Thank you for the laymen’s terms on the battery’s! I’ve been trying to figure this out over the past two years and get so overwhelmed that I just throw my hands up and surrender lol! Lithium it is!!!!!! Keep up the great work you guys! 👍👍

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Glad I could help!

[@michaelcolley1498]

Good Apples-to-Apples comparison and excellent $ and weight conclusion - which it is almost impossible to find, Thanks!

[@Infiniphil]

Really good straightforward comparison, thanks!

[@rdwise4513]

You had me at "Buy Lithium, carry more beer". In all seriousness, the cost benefit analysis you provided shows that Lithium does indeed make sense. I do plan on being a vanlife-styler for much more than two years and if the van craps out or I upsize, I'll just transfer the system to the new rig! Thank you again and again and again! Now where did I put my piggy bank...

[@francoisputter7018]

Awesome guys.. Another 5 star video. I am busy setting up my Sprinters Solar system. I decided to bite the bullet once off and go with L-ion.. Your solar tutorials have helped me out a bunch. I am in South Africa so have more than enough excellent Sunshine... lol... Thanks again and stay safe...

[@HolisticPioneer]

Thanks Guys, fantastic/simplistic detail and explanation. A lithium battery company would do well to hire you guys for marketing to our industry ;) You definitely sold us & we thought we would never fork out that much for a battery! sending you an abundance of love & joyful travels

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Awesome! Glad it helped!

[@chrispaul7120]

Best comparison ever thanks

[@DestroyAllWaves]

Appreciate the review, and for sure, if you got the coin, go lithium. One thing about your cost calculations is you're basing it on running your battery bank to 100% discharge every day. If your solar system and battery bank is set up like this, it's a system designed for headaches and failure . Most DIY solar systems that I've seen in vans or anything else are now set up to run without any recharge for about three days for a complete cycle at a minimum. Ideally you have enough solar power coming in during the day to top off your batteries from the previous night, and meet your daily consumption of amp hours. Another thing to consider is redundancy and ease of replacement. AGMs can be found at hardware, boat and most auto part stores now. Finding a replacement lithium is gonna be a setback. This info is meant to be helpful to others considering making the switch from AGM, no criticism to your content!

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Thanks for watching and thanks 100% for the input. Valid points! Also, double thumbs up for your disclaimer at the end. :D Cheers! But yeah, this video definitely has an emphasis on people who are going to put in some effort to make a properly functioning solar array (Like the one we showed from last week: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp-me3mOjKqJj9U )

[@able880]

This is excellent info for the average person - for those who choose to live off grid and are on the go the lithium phosphate is the better choice - the life cycle goes by how deep u discharge the battery - a lithium can be discharged to 30-35% of it's capacity and recharged to 85% capacity with out any problems were as a AGM can only be discharged without damaging it to 50% discharged & fast charged 85% with out damaging it - in the real world battery's are charged to 85 % capacity not 100% capacity - each time u cycle a lead acid battery (AGM) if u can not put it on a slow charge rate for several hours once every 2-3 wks u will gradually loose your capacity - were as with lithiums that not a problem - also the life of a battery is determined by the DOD Depth Of Discharge - if u only discharge a Lithium battery 10% then slowly recharge it u might get 30 or 40 yrs of service - were as with an AGM at best it will be 10 yrs or slightly longer - a batterys life is determined not only by DOD but also at the rate of charge - the service life of a battery is determined by how many times it's been charged and how fast it was charged - if u only use ur camper on week ends a single 100 amp Flooded deep cycle battery is all you need, then use a one amp charger that has a maintenance charge to maintain it after it's charged - it can last 10 yrs as long as u add water when needed and drain it 30% every 6 months & charge it - if ur living in a camper, van ect and on the road often, Lithium phosphates are the only way to go - if u can handle the up front exspence - I'm saying this from decades of experience -( the only down side of Lithium is they will not charge in freezing tempratuers or when it's too hot) - if that's the case u might have a small AGM back up battery - in the south deserts or southern portions of the country if u can handle the heat that doesn't mean your battery's can - AGM charge controllers will decrease the battery"s charge rates drematicly when it's hot, but with lithiums they will not accept a charge when there to hot or to cold

[@scottfox4673]

Thankyou for both of your fantastic advise and energy you bring to your videos and my campervan ( pun intended) in giving me the knowledge to build a sustainable and effective off grid solar system for my campervan, from sunny Australia I sincerely say thankyou to an honest, wonderful and sincere couple and yes in Australia the more beer you can carry the more popular you are haha cheers!

[@finejob3097]

I agree with lithium for van life to a point. For the off grid system still go with lead acid, the price of lithium has dropped so much the last couple of year plus bms failures are at a all time high for some models. I’m not putting lithium down, just working in the telephone industry from central office, cell sites, rail road notification centers use mostly lead acid batteries, yes some sealed and agm. I know of thousands of lead acid batteries I’ve installed still in service that twenty to thirty years old. Both of you make very good points. Nowadays you have power stations making huge improvements for van life and off grid. Battery choice is in your needs. Keep up the good information, fine job fine job

[@roygardiner4002]

Cracking explanations of the choice between AGM or Lithium - thanks very much you two. Subscribed.

[@samoandude6838]

Thanks for the vid!! Very helpful in our decision for batteries. Take care!!

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

I have been on the fence for a year. I just lost an AGM on my coach. I have 12VDC BB LiPos 'laying around'. I thought they went amp per amp. This is awesome.

[@Darignobullseye]

Thank you. It helps a lot to be guided on 2 different batteries and it helps to hear the strategies used. I haven't gotten into solar because I just can't find how to learn about it. Thank you for your lesson.

[@bostjantrancar9605]

Excellent choice to change to lithium battery's. Excellent video by the way.... 👍

[@carpenterfamily6198]

Great info - love the final 'beer' conclusion !

[@kristalink9865]

Y’all are excellent teachers.

[@dorisatkinson7259]

I have had problems with Lithium in cold weather. Your thoughts on Lithium vs AGM for cold weather camping. Thanks much. I really appreciate your videos.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

We actually just released a video about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4SyiIl3msdkfpo&lc=Ugzia6tev6ctIhXqmD14AaABAg

[@DolphinFart]

Fantastic breakdown! Thank you! Less weight, more beer is all I needed to hear. Haha

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Haha! You and me both! Thanks for watching!

[@ClimbingChiara]

the comparison with beers was realy good :'D

[@frankmccleary]

Dig it !! Wonderful comparisons . A much needed thing when buying batteries !!

[@marinepark3627]

You explained these two types of batteries very well. You are great, thank you. I know what to get now.

[@bazlebreeze9938]

Another consideration is where to distribute all the weight of the agms. Bunched would put about 300 lbs at one spot, unevenly wearing out bearings, suspension and tires. I was told lithium could be shaped in any configuration I.e. rounded so as to fit in the spare tire rack under the chassis. Is that true? Great video. Thanks for the editing. Makes it snappy and easy to digest.

[@absoluteelectricwat]

Great video! You two are my favourite vanlifers (don't tell Bec & Eamon). Thanks for doing all the brain work for us on this stuff!

[@pjmjunior]

Best conclusion EVER!

[@GJRoamingRolling]

Hi Nate and Steph! That was a fantastic breakdown and comparison! Great job, you guys are phenomenal 😃

[@jessicabebenek6471]

Thank you so much for these helpful videos!

[@listenup1711]

I'm glad you put this video out. I have been making mistake after mistake and watching video after video, I now I finally learn about the end game. Thank you very much for the information, I will be rethinking my battery usage from now on.

[@jobambiflatetbaas6301]

I'm missing a usability factor here. What happens if you use your in the summer, put it in storage and next year you want to use it again? Do the batteries get hot and so they need venting? How fast can you discharge them before the safety circuit is activated. Does the cost include a safety circuit? Etc.

[@donnajohnson9324]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏 👍

[@DnSAdventures]

Should have just started with buy lithium, carry more beer. I would have been sold from the get go :-P Thanks for sharing the info guys! - Shane

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Haha! That'll be the facebook/buzzfeed version of this video. lol

[@jonsanchez55]

Yup! This was the hook of the whole video! Start with the hook, and show how you got there.

[@thegingerbusadventures57]

Lol

[@XVanman]

DnSAdventures I’m with you Shane

[@kevinmolick]

Great video! Fun to hear references of my home town ( Denver). I left to grow my teardrop trailer business last year moving to Grand Junction. I am considering offering lithium ions on our trailers. My company ( Timberleaf Trailers) now uses AGM

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Super cool! I just check out your site. Those are slick!

[@traciadams3805]

Thank you so much for that review. I was debating between the two batteries, but you made my decision very easy and clear! I'm going Lithium!

[@SunscreenDreams]

Really interesting information video. When you crunch the numbers for long term travel then lithium is definitely the way to go. Will be considering this strongly when we come to choosing batteries for our conversion. Keep up the good work guys!

[@RVLivingYet]

Great comparison, we ended up with the battle born batteries in our rig as well. So far so good just pricey to get started.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Hey RV Living Yet, Thanks so much! Cheers!

[@honeyhoney7109]

Thank you SO MUCH for all these videos. These are just so so incredible!!!

[@vegnurse8173]

I needed this information. You explained it so simply. Thankyou! I’ve been try to figure out with Roadtrek I want if Agm or Lithium was better. Happy travels.

[@robertorion6559]

I have two 6V LifeLine 300AMP AGM's in my RV. They are two years old, have not noticed any depreciation yet, but I am sure it is there. I would like to move to Lithium Ion in a year or two, but my battery box is exposed to the outside, and I live in the northeast (temps down to 0F). My AGM's handle that cold just fine. I would love to hear some sane talk as you gave in this video around the temperature issues of Lithium Ion versus AGM. Thanks for a great video. So glad I found this, very informative.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Will add it to the discussion list! But in short... The lithiums need to be kept in a climate controlled space if you are below freezing. They won't charge if they are below freezing. Quick comparison though... Lithiums: Won't charge below freezing AGMs: Will charge, but will have decreased storage capacity.

[@SteveOfTheMountains]

Best comparison i've seen. thanks!

[@daslaundrynazi]

Nice summary of current battery technologies. One other battery to consider is a gel cell like like the Sonnenschein dry fit. I had a few sets of these on a boat that I lived on anf cruised for 7 years without much of a headache at all. The gels are a bit less finicky than AGM to varying charge voltages and have a pretty robust reserve capacity. Lithiums are likely a bit more future proof, but the price point is still a bit hard to swallow.

[@kevinmolick]

Thank you! We are striving to be in top of the heap of fifty plus mfgs in the USA. That’s why I’m looking closely at Lithium ion

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Yeah, I think it'd be a no-brainer add-on for a lightweight teardrop. I think people'd be willing to pay a little extra for less weight, more room, and bigger power capacity. Are you adding solar to all of your campers or is that an add-on?

[@kevinmolick]

@@EXPLORISTlife We offer solar as an option and about 80 % of our buyers get it. We have tried several different panels and the Flexopower 105w has hit a sweet spot for us. I am thinking of making a Lith I battery another upgrade option. I mixed feedback from our buyers on whether a Lith I battery is worth the extra cost. The cost for what we'd get is likely about $800.

[@joryclouthier]

Great explanation!

[@BryanKipke]

So helpful, thank you. Your comparisons were great and easy to understand. Batteries can be so confusing.

[@jeremynewman8092]

I understand what you're saying about the power usage in their amount of money between the two but my question is when listening batteries came out they were catching on fire in the airplanes so what would be the difference used in with solar in a confined area as far as heat goes when they are recharging

[@barryjameson9065]

What about the concerns of charging Lithium Batteries (LB) from the alternator and solar power charging? Seems like one should not use the alternator to charge the lithium batteries. Isn't this a big drawback or can it be safely down through my inverter charger?

[@EXPLORISTlife]

The only concern about charging Battle Born lithium (can't speak for all Lithium batteries as not all batteries have an Internal BMS), is that it can really work your alternator since they charge so quickly. Also, you'll not want to charge your batteries faster than 50% of the amp hours of the battery bank. So, for example. If you have a 220 amp alternator that runs at 50% efficiency, you'll want at least 200Ah of Battle Born batteries. (This is the same with all battery types, though. Regarding charging via alternator and solar at the same time. The Victron charge controllers will stop charging if they sense a competing charge (say, from your alternator).

[@charlie123866]

is there a leisure battery charger that has bms.? how do you protect the cells from failing when charging?

[@HarveyAcoustics]

Brilliant video, really well explained

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Hey Harvey Acoustics, No problem! Glad it helped! :)

[@jimgrey22]

That was so amazingly informative and convincing! Thanks for that wonderful explanation!

[@christiancastano8369]

"Buy lithium = Carry more beer " hahaha pretty straight forward choice for me mate !

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Glad it was helpful. Cheers!

[@jlegresley]

Nothing to add, but I do appreciate the comparison. Surprised I haven't heard anyone on YT talking about it yet. Always a good idea to do your own research, but so far, I agree, the nudge goes to Lithium.

[@ryanferris7841]

Thanks! It’s a no brainier

[@hudsondoodle5200]

This is a great video. Very informative and well thought out. But what made me hit subscribe was the weight analysis in terms of bottles of beer.

[@levelup843]

Enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting. I installed two 6 volt AGM's back around 2010, still working like a champ in my custom built high-top RV van. I believe each battery was rated at 260Ah, and cost around $600 in total. Weight is about 75# each, but I only have two, so that's about 150# I have accidentally drained them several times, and they still operate as needed. They primarily are used for lighting, charging phones/ electronics, and running a small exhaust fan 24/7. The party won't last forever though. I'm toying with the idea of what to do when it's time to replace them. Not sure lithium are worth the added expense, plus it's a pretty new technology, at least when compared to AGM's. Especially difficult to decide considering that my AGM's have lasted this long without an issue.

[@ab-ym3bf]

For your kind of use I would still go for agm.

[@johndavies6769]

Hi thanks for your content. Have you seen John and Mandy in the UK experience with lithium. They found lithium were lightweight and gave the hours of charge but RV charging from solar and b2b off grid did not give the charge the batteries need. They are ok if you can mains charge. Just thought you might be interested as John is very knowledgeable and did the research before spending a large investment in lithium but after losing power at 3 am which turned the heater off and it happening quite a few times he is going back to agm. He explains why but is something like the batteries think they are full and won’t charge but are empty. Cheers John County Durham England.

[@ZenaAlSafar]

I just stampled on this now. I wonder is this is still valid or a better newer more expensive battery is out there?

[@Trang-xq9fn]

Excellent informative video. I never thought the AGM was truly cheaper. It is not even worth carrying all the weight (AGM).

[@neog3461]

I'm using AGM batteries for for 3 years. It's still working fine. Just make sure you don't discharge it too fast and you will get good battery life. I'm also planning to upgrade to lifepo once this one is dead

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Glad it's still working for you.

[@afreemanreigns]

We got our Lithium batteries from a Ford C-Max "Energi" and we purchased them @ about 100 USD per 1kW and if we would have bought more we could have gotten them even cheaper. We got them through LKQ using our business account. Each vehicle "Energi" version has 7.6 kWh, with each cell being individually 4.2v any type of system can be built i.e. 12v, 24v, 36v, 48v, or 60v. This is one of the reason we purchased these cells and the price mind you I was not crazy about tearing the unit down and since there are still not many videos on this they were something I believed I could handle being a mechanic and using common sense and the wealth of Electronic info on here. This is not for everyone but we have really had great success using them and since bought more units and will be helping a neighbor install a solar system using them. We use a Magnum Energy Pure Sine Wave MS4448-PAE Inverter/Charger, 4400 Watts, 48 VDC hooked up in a Midnite Sun utility box we got on ebay pre-assembled at a great price as it was old-stock that was never sold so we did give up the warranty but the brand had a good enough history.

[@rongosswiller9215]

Thank you so much for that cost comparison. I'm presently just starting to plan a system and saw L-ion batteries as exorbitant, cost wise. Doing a mini van space is a serious premium. This is very helpful. Thanks for doing informative videos...

[@FreeRV]

Hi:) You guys are so great together! I appreciate all calculations you done for community! Thank you for inspiration to start VanLife and making simular videos!

[@dianacryder7523]

Great! Thanks for doing the math!

[@EXPLORISTlife]

No problem! Hope it helped!

[@joshst.6644]

What about low temp charging? From what I am reading you can have a full charge rate when below 42 degrees and no charging below freezing. Is this still true?

[@jam471975]

Great video... just one correction on the weight... you said that the total weight for the 200 Amp Hours of Lithium batteries was 116 lbs, but that is actually the weight for 4 Lithium batteries. Since you only need 2 Lithium batteries, to get the same 200 Amp Hours of usable energy as 4 AGM batteries, the weight for those 2 Lithium batteries would only be 58 lbs, which is a 218 lbs savings for the same Amp Hours of usable energy.

[@lonmar44]

How much amperance do you need to charge those battery without hurting

[@mikeswildoutdoors7279]

Great video, I built a 4 BattleBorn solar generator using an outback flex 80 controller, 3,000 to 6,000 watt aims with soft start and 6 100 watts 5.5 amps 18-volt panels, batteries and inverter, controller are all in a large toolbox on wheels.

[@harryford1816]

A great video just what I was looking for. How does the Battle Born lithium perform in cold weather conditions? Can I winterize my camper and not have to worry about killing the batteries.

[@EXPLORISTlife]

They do fine. I recommend keeping ANY batteries in the climate controlled portion of your camper. Batteries, in general, don't like to be cold. Here's a video where I addressed this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4SyiIl3msdkfpo

[@richio1763]

Thanks for sifting through the numbers and coming to some real-world conclusions. I'd like to know more about the temperature limits for charging LiFePo without hurting them. 'Expecting to do some hot weather camping in AZ. Thanks. (subbed)

[@johnniethomas8369]

Where is the video from the midnight classic 150 charge controller that y'all did on your van? That's how my setup is right now. Can I still view it?

[@EXPLORISTlife]

Unfortunately, we never made an in-depth video about the Midnite Classic 150.