They should make a gun that weighs 1 kg and call it A(kilo)gram. I apologize for my terrible joke.
@scrappydoo78876 ай бұрын
😅
@PobortzaPl6 ай бұрын
I forgot something: Ba-dum, tss!
@K__a__M__I6 ай бұрын
At this point you can just throw a weight around.
@TheDeveloperGuy6 ай бұрын
Or shuffle the letters and call it the Anagram.
@DeliciousBoi6 ай бұрын
I LIKE THESE CONCEPTS
@hell3quin8646 ай бұрын
When you mentioned that the 2002 was involved in an assassination attempt I suddenly remembered that there's an smg type weapon in Mass Effect 2 that you loot from a vault specifically bc it was used to assassinate a president. I get the strong feeling that it's a direct reference.
@LaDeCR5 ай бұрын
I remember that gun - double checked and found you're referring to the M-12 Locust SMG ; I can see what you mean now. I was thinking of ME3's N7 Hurricane SMG, but then both are designed with the magazine well in the rear grip rather than the front.
@tomdawe50396 ай бұрын
The 2000 is a beautiful looking firearm
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
In that late 90's "futuristic" kind of way, yeah.
@causewaykayak6 ай бұрын
Mr Ferguson is really good at this. Always interesting. Always so careful with the "stock". A pleasure to watch. I wish I was better at the quizzes. 😊
@drtysanchino6 ай бұрын
Bears a lot of resemblance to later versions of the Tec-9, with the shorter exposed barrel.
@basiliskwardroid6 ай бұрын
I thought it was a tec 22 at first glance
@Matt-md5yt6 ай бұрын
It does look similar to a tec-9
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Good catch. I kept trying to place why this Agram looked like it was familiar.
@monotech20.146 ай бұрын
I love this gun ,the Agram 2000. Far more than the B&T subguns, OR Scorpion.
@jamescameron68196 ай бұрын
the 2000 in particular is a oddly attractive firearm
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
The Agram's have a certain... almost "cyber punk" aesthetic. The B & T compact sub machine guns are far better built and reliable, plus I like the look of their first generation.
@jamescameron68196 ай бұрын
@williestyle35 it came to me last night. They look like the child of a Tech 9 and a P 90
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
@@jamescameron6819 good comparison
@satratic1276 ай бұрын
Man jonathan bravley recording a video down a live firing range. He will do anything for another banger video
@MythicMagus6 ай бұрын
I really like the lines on this family of SMGs. Very cool looking guns.
@ironwolfF16 ай бұрын
It looks like a fancy variant of the TEC-9.
@jaspermooren58836 ай бұрын
As a gunnoob, I was quite suprised to see how little actual barrel there was compared to the length of the firearm! I'm mainly interested in old muzzleloaded firearms, where the barrellength is basically the entire length of the metal tube (really only the stock makes the gun longer than the barrel). I always just kinda assumed it would be simular for modern firearms, that the bullet goes in all the way at the back, and is fired from somewhere just above the handle. But clearly that isn't the case, at least with this gun.
@beingsactual6 ай бұрын
Principally, it is *feeding* that necessitates a certain length of action stroke, introducing some arbitrary dimensions to repeaters, automatic or manual, when compared to muzzle loaders and single-shot breech loaders. Which results in a fair few compactness-oriented firearm designs that are more action than barrel. Such super short barrels are certainly less than ideal, but with the modernity of self-contained metallic cartridges and fairly tight seal between the barrel and the projectile, they are still functional, which is considered "good enough" under such design considerations, where engagement distance is expected to be very short anyway.
@jaspermooren58836 ай бұрын
@@beingsactual Yeah after he screwed open the weapon it made sense, I just never really thought about it that way. It just felt odd having such a relatively long weapon (most pistols are shorter) with such a short actual barrel.
@MichaelDodge276 ай бұрын
My only question is where do I get that kick-ass SMG shirt??
@Mr_T_Badger5 ай бұрын
I have been shamelessly begging Johnathan and Dave Jewitt to do an episode on his shirt collection for ages.
@Matt-md5yt6 ай бұрын
It's pretty, thanks for covering this cool looking smg
@samcruickshanks68566 ай бұрын
I didn't even know this existed, I was aware of the 2000 model and have always thought it a very good looking firearm and especially so in it's particular class of weapon (sub machine gun) , can't help but wonder what situation this would shine in over other platforms though.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Being produced locally in Croatia is where it "shines" over most other designs and platforms. There was an arms embargo in place when (the former) Yugoslavia disintegrated into "civil war"...
@Chiller116 ай бұрын
Interesting that it’s a closed bolt arrangement. It seems most blow back sub guns made under wartime conditions are simple open bolt designs. I think a provision for a stock would improve the design as well.
@historysmith95976 ай бұрын
Love the look very 80's sifi. Like something Stallone would use in Cobra or Demolition Man. Or water pistol my nephew might use at a pool party 🥳
@alexsetterington31425 ай бұрын
Demolition Man was in 90s
@historysmith95975 ай бұрын
@alexsetterington3142 1993 Somehow, that makes me feel older and sad 😔
@Lankythepyro6 ай бұрын
I'm a fan of the 2000 but this is an interesting step in its development story. Thanks for sharing.
@jjforcebreaker6 ай бұрын
They both look simply great.
@Can-Kashi6 ай бұрын
Externally, the first one reminds me of the barrel shrouded Kimel AP-9 and the compact ver. reminds me of the Tec-9 Minis. They both probably function better though.
@therezinUK6 ай бұрын
What a neat looking gun. "Cyberpunk" is right, it looks like a very 1980s vision of the future. It wouldn't be out of place to see some street ganger wielding one in an old Judge Dredd strip.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Yep, good observation.
@derekp26746 ай бұрын
Thanks Jonathan and team. Is this the MP5K that we have at home?
@vulpsturm6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the internal workings of the Intratec Tec-9 series. It's very similar.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Even the exterior looks similar in a few ways. I wonder if Royal Armouries has done a video on the Tec - 9 ?
@mr.pickles84456 ай бұрын
These are just cooler tec-9s
@simonbrooke4065Ай бұрын
That seems to be rather a well engineered machine pistol -- but a terrifying thing to have in the hands of criminals!
@adamadams67405 ай бұрын
Where did you find that shirt you’re wearing?? That’s subtle and cool! I didn’t notice until almost the end of video.
@danijelhrup9715Ай бұрын
This gun was build in garage by Vugrek family, when I was in Croatian army as a first man of 4 in BVP 80, we had ERO something like big UZI...
@Micr0_Machin36 ай бұрын
Such a cool and odd lookin smg i just remeber been a young adult playing my xbox beating far cry 4 with the full size version
@K__a__M__I6 ай бұрын
What are the hours-of-angle on this thing?
@adestimare59854 ай бұрын
Very much a star wars looking gun too
@Smintjes6 ай бұрын
The supporting hand is waaaaay to close to the muzzle if you ask me. Some sort of anti-slip barrier like on the SP89 would not be a bad idea, especially when firing full auto. Again, very informative video Mr. Ferguson.
@bunk956 ай бұрын
Too close to the muzzle for what?
@thescatologistcopromancer39366 ай бұрын
@@bunk95comfort
@FabianMacGintyONeill6 ай бұрын
I have a feeling the type of gangster hitmen using this would most likely use it one-hand unsupported. Don't have any evidence to back that up of course, but dudes like that tend to prefer a 'power stance' style of shooting vs anything practical
@richardmarkham83695 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know how RA aquires examples like this.
@FryingTiger3 ай бұрын
The barrel device is for proecting the threads.
@darkart64876 ай бұрын
I'm disappointed that you didn't show how the trigger and sear mechanism works.
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
Showed enough to explain it.
@darkart64876 ай бұрын
@@williestyle35 not to me (
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
@@darkart6487 aww, okay
@toucanmasterx6 ай бұрын
Why Didnt croatia offer these for export? Its such a cool gun
@jaspermooren58836 ай бұрын
If you know anything about that region in this era you know that they were importing guns back then, not exporting them.
@toucanmasterx6 ай бұрын
@@jaspermooren5883ik But i mean after the war When these failed to get adpoted by the croatian army
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
@@toucanmasterx they tried. But only criminals were really interested.
@F1ghteR416 ай бұрын
I've never heard of this gun, so this was naturally quite interesting, thanks! It's somewhat unusual to see a modern blowback SMG without a telescoping bolt. By the way, Jonathan, on the topic of striker-firing, what's your view on the term 'horizontal hammer'? Is it just a marketing trick, or are there any systems you would describe as such?
@jonathanferguson12116 ай бұрын
Thank you! Definitely not marketing (usually "linear hammer" is used) - it's a weight that impacts a firing pin, whereas a striker is a firing pin that is cocked and released to fire without being struck by any kind of hammer. So a Lee-Enfield with its firing pin and cocking piece is technically "striker-fired" as of course is the "Safe Action" Glock. The vz58 however has a "linear hammer".
@F1ghteR416 ай бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 Ah, yes, indeed, linear hammer, my mistake. Thank you for the detailed answer, this shows my lack of knowledge on and proper attention to the Vz. 58.
@BeamMonsterZeusАй бұрын
Oh man, the weird period of late 90's-early 2000's where plastic was almost guaranteed to be as durable as a dissolving napkin. Drop it from a foot above the ground, and it shatters. Set it near a window, and it shatters. Sit on it, it shatters. Clean it, it shatters. Leave it in the car, it melts. Fire it rapidly, it melts. etc.
@TMFShooting6 ай бұрын
Another Great Video Jonathan 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@Fernando-kf4ez5 ай бұрын
Será possível chegar no Brasil?
@RyeOnHam6 ай бұрын
Very reminiscent of the KG9.
@JoaoSoares-rs6ec6 ай бұрын
i got a question for you Jonathan, is it possible for a break open weapon that can fire three difernt cartriges, like a shotgun round, one barrel, a 44 caliber another and a 22 caliber in another.
@scottrobinson32816 ай бұрын
A bit reminiscent of the vz58, without the locking block.
@HerraHidalgo6 ай бұрын
For an early April episode, could we see the Queen Elizabeth’s Pocket Pistol and it’s kin? I know artillery is not Jonathan’s forte, but seeing those old guns would fun.
@stevedavenotcraig6 ай бұрын
Love the 8-bit subscribe animation.
@thomasrandall63675 ай бұрын
Both look cool af
@MikeS106 ай бұрын
that's a cool ass gun
@АндрейШмырев-ж3з6 ай бұрын
Очень интересно...🧐
@rogerhudson97324 ай бұрын
Was it the small or large one used in the Hoxton murder of a girl in a fast food shop?
@Mr_T_Badger5 ай бұрын
If you left the suppressor off and the barrel shroud on, then stuck a smaller magazine into it, you’d have something that looks not unlike the Lawgiver Mk II from Judge Dredd.
@zoiders6 ай бұрын
The 2002 is clearly a "Tec 9" clone. They produced a variant with no barrel shroud.
@thomasstewart13806 ай бұрын
And here I thought it was another variation of the Nevxet. Darn.
@JordanFlayer6 ай бұрын
They were both made by the same guy so you could make that argument :P
@stevemc60106 ай бұрын
I wonder if there's a Croatian rapper named "Lil' Agram"
@SwedishMeatball096 ай бұрын
How much
@ironsightsmcgillycudy77536 ай бұрын
Jonathan, I know it would probably be impossible but it would be hilarious if you could somehow take some of these historical pieces to compete in the Finnish or Lynx Brutality matches. The Royal Armories sending you as an official Liason would make people's day there lol
@somefool46256 ай бұрын
Looks a bit like JatiMatic
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
A bit, if you squint just right.
@heikkiaho66056 ай бұрын
x for automatic is just asking for trouble 😬
@samholdsworth4206 ай бұрын
Its a gun!
@gaminggamer96986 ай бұрын
NO WAY
@MrMinuteman6 ай бұрын
The only reason I have to go to the UK is the Royal Armories Museum and also meet Johnathon. I honestly prefer him over Ian (no hate to him)
@TheWarmotor6 ай бұрын
That's actually pretty ingenious, split the bolt in two and add a striker spring to get a closed-bolt shot. Thank you Jonathon, you dapper mofo!
@MrSpirit993 ай бұрын
Jagged Alliance 2
@danpatterson80096 ай бұрын
Add a big scope and you've got standard U.N.C.L.E. issue.
@radialrothary6 ай бұрын
What cake is this based on?
@marvindebot32646 ай бұрын
As a curator, it is my opinion that with cracks like those it's time to stop preserving and start conserving, a #80 drill is barely wider than those cracks but will stop them from spreading and spoiling this poor man's Skorpian.
@theritchie21736 ай бұрын
No cake?
@jonathanferguson12116 ай бұрын
We lost our baker unfortunately :(
@andrewfranges78076 ай бұрын
8:52-9:06 Getting a little too sexy in here.
@jamesgreene60606 ай бұрын
Has Jonathan seen what a guy has done with a p90 and a Thompson he has made on gun out of the two a pthompson
@RonStochler-oz1qk6 ай бұрын
The British Secret Service is in active communications and coordination with the Croatian government, much the same as during the previous Titoist Yugoslave regime. You having these weapons in your possession proves that.
@Willy_Tepes6 ай бұрын
It seems to be designed by someone who has "some" expertise, but not enough to do a good job.
@bunk956 ай бұрын
Whats the purpose for the design? Did it continue human slavery through the waste of life and resource?
@Willy_Tepes6 ай бұрын
No, that is the job of government.@@bunk95
@Willy_Tepes6 ай бұрын
No, that is the government's job.@@bunk95
@Willy_Tepes6 ай бұрын
It seems that making fun of our rulers is forbidden, lol.@@bunk95
@Willy_Tepes6 ай бұрын
You'd be shocked at what they chose to delete.@@bunk95
@MrSnoopyxxx126 ай бұрын
do the AN-94 please!!
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
That is one heck of a complicated firearm. Wonder if and how The Royal Armouries would get hold of the AN - 94 ?
@deitchj0036 ай бұрын
@@williestyle35garand thumb did
@williestyle356 ай бұрын
@@deitchj003 thank you for pointing this out. So did Forget Weapons, but that does not help Jonathan at the Royal Armouries .
@JordanFlayer5 ай бұрын
@@williestyle35 they already have it
@williestyle355 ай бұрын
@@JordanFlayer did not think even the Patern Room collection would get hold of something as rare as the AN - 94. Thank you for letting me know.