Aguila .22 Sniper Subsonic Ammo Test

Testing Aguila .22 long rifle "Sniper Subsonic" ammo for accuracy and velocity using a Norinco NS522 bolt action. This ammo features a 60-grain lead bullet at a rated velocity of 950 fps.

[@SamEEE12]

Nicest looking Norinco money can buy!

[@314299]

With a decent stock this would be a nice looking rifle. The stock that it comes with is a rather odd with a crude cut out for the bolt handle, it's actually a stock for a different model that was adapted to the NS522.

[@willsharphomes]

@@314299 Thanks for doing this video! Do you know the twist rate and length of the barrel of that rifle? Looking at other videos, it seems that this ammo was way more accurate for you than for other people and I'm wondering If it is because the twist rate and maybe length of the barrel....

[@jpb1231000]

@@314299 Norinco is an AWESOME BRAND,,,, They get a "knock" for their SKS" compared to RUSSIANS an YUGOS but IMO a good Norinco in hand ... ANYWAY... Their AK's are great TOO!!!

[@barebonesjones]

​@@jpb1231000 imo a Norinco SKS is just as good if not better, I have owned two and only one jammed due to a drum mag, the only time it jammed is when I used that mag. Never really cleaned them either, even witja lol the corrosive rounds I probably encountered they out up with it amazing, they make damn good guns! Not to mention they actually gave the SKS a detachable magazine! That alone is enough for me lol.

[@jpb1231000]

@@barebonesjones I have one of each... Did have 2 SKS' but buddy traded me my paratrooper w/box mag for a stamped MAK 90...

[@flyfisherman4184]

Thanks for taking the time to make this in-depth review of Aguila .22LR Sub-Sonic ammo... Great job!

[@314299]

You are welcome. Thanks for the feedback

[@thomdickinson3311]

I have shot about 500 rounds of this ammo. Initially I used a Savage bolt action [~150 rounds], in which I achieve similar results as yours. I then switched to a Ruger 10/22 with a 10% "relaxed" bolt spring. It cycled flawlessly [to my surprise] and achieved slightly wider groups [~ rounds]. I then retrofitted the 10/22 with a 1:9 twist barrel by Green Mountain. Any appearance of unstable flight disappeared. I had previously modified this 10/22 to "lock" the bolt in places, i.e. not to cycle. To my amazement, the groups at 75 yards fell into the

[@314299]

That's good accuracy, however the pronounced trajectory with this ammo would make hitting a small critter difficult if you get the range wrong.

[@juniyananajukyu]

I stacked up on this before Covid and finally got to shooting it today. I'm impressed. It cycles in my 10/22!

[@314299]

How well does it group in your 10/22?

[@bikesareuse5]

Shoots great in my Norinco JW-15 with 1-14 twist barrel or Ruger 10-22 with 1-14 twist replacement heavy barrel. Key holes from my 1-16 twist 22's, so it needs a faster twist barrel to shoot well. Special 1-9 twist barrels are available for the 10-22, don't know how well that would shoot standard 22 ammo. The 1-14 twist barrels shoot all my 22 ammo well, so that may be the best compromise.

[@rwatson2609]

Exceptional review. I appreciate your attention to details such as the distance and group sizing and gun used. I am always shocked at other reviewers that forget those details. Again, great video.

[@314299]

Thanks. I try to include all the relevant details that I can.

[@englishrupe01]

An excellent review of a very interesting cartridge. It performed a good deal better than i had imagined also. Thank you !

[@314299]

I'd like to try this stuff in another rifle or two to see how it performs. At any rate I'm going to have wait to do that until the dealer gets more in stock.

[@JohnSmith-vf8ud]

I use this stuff to take the smaller hogs up to 40-50 lbs that I raise on my property. Also use it for raccoons/opossums. It cycles in my smith & Wesson 15-22 very well, very quiet. These bullets penetrate very deeply, have a lot of sectional density, don't be concerned with the velocity. I had one do a pass through on one hog and clip another in the leg and passed through the others leg as well. Penetrates 1" plywood. I stopped at that point with testing it on wood. Yes, if I had to ,meaning I had no other option, I would use these for self-defense due to the amount of penetration over a higher velocity .22 round.

[@SH1974]

I guess that's the sense behind this Ammo: being subsonic (for supressors) but anyway have 50% more impact power than other 40 gris standard velocity ammo. Tht penetration factor is very interresting! I have not much experience with that, (because I'm shoting sportive, not for hunting) and I never really thought about that... Imagine we compare 3 different .22LR's in 60gris, 40gris and 20 gris in ballistic gel. Imagine further their powder (velocity) is set excatly in the level, that they all have the same impact power to the target. In first I would think that they all penetrate to the same deepth, because they all have the same power and diameter. BUT... "Speed" is squared in the calculation of impact power - and the lighter bullet looses his speed faster than the heavier one. That means: If they all have the same power, the heavier (but slower) projectile penetrates way deeper (squared function!) than the lighter (but faster) one does. Is that correct?

[@hawkknight4223]

I greatly appreciate the way you have it laid out. Excellent work.

[@314299]

Thanks.

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

I built a rifle specifically for this round based on the Volquartsen Summit action with a Pike Arms 1:9 twist barrel. I regularly shoot 1" groups at 50 yards, 2 MOA, using a 1 MOA red dot sight. After giving the chamber a light polish to eliminate some initial extraction problems, it has performed flawlessly with no misfires or malfunctions in over 3000 rounds. Shooting into a soft clay backstop at 5' the this bullet expands to almost double its diameter. I am very happy with the rifle and the ammo but wish there was a little more ballistic information out there.

[@314299]

Sounds like an interesting rifle. How well does it perform with regular 40 grain ammo?

[@pedrowhack-a-mole6786]

@@314299 There are no adverse effects of using lighter and faster bullets through the 1:9 twist barrel. The point of impact is different and the group sizes vary but that's to be expected. Tipped with a Sparrow 22 suppressor, this is a deadly small game rifle, light accurate, and almost undetectable at 15 feet.

[@forrestbryant6309]

Very good and informative video...wish youtube had more people with enough sense to give this amount of information in a ammo review.

[@314299]

Thank you.

[@thomdickinson3311]

This round performs best with about a 1:10. I shoot it in a 1:9 twist 18” barrel. I am an average shooter and consistently get 1” groups at 85 yards..just thought this might help. Your review is one of the best of this ammo that’’s out there.

[@raymondrobbins698]

Shooting these through a 20" bbl with a 1:16 twist consistently keyholes @25 yds.

[@GunGirlsATL]

@@raymondrobbins698 I think you mean stacking your shot or shooting through the same hole... Keyhole means something completely different. Keyholing is when your bullet starts to tumble and when It hits the target its moving the long way leaving a keyhole type hole in the target.

[@Code_Made]

Subbed. Straight to point, n no talking n advertising for ten minutes!

[@314299]

Thanks.

[@WillyK51]

As far as I can remember the Finest an most accurate amo in the world , no mater who makes it (RWS, Eley and endless makers) subsonic

[@markchatman9583]

I also enjoy testing odd-ball .22 ammo. Keep up the technical work.

[@314299]

I certainly like trying out the odd ammo when the opportunity comes up.

[@badgerrrlattin35]

I, too, have been finding this stuff surprisingly accurate. Am going to do some more experimenting with it for my revolver.

[@314299]

Please let us know how well it shoots for you.

[@wasntmeXYZ]

Good video, it’s a shame you didn’t have a suppressor on the end of that to see just how quite it can be. Surprising accuracy, very nice looking rifle.

[@99redcentaurs]

abut ...good review. Glad to see Canadians shooting. :)

[@314299]

Regrettably all our ranges are closed at the moment do to this virus business, but back at it at some point.

[@Dave-dh7rt]

5:00 thats so cool that you can see the bullets flying!!!

[@314299]

I got lucky with the camera angle on that one.

[@svernwarunos546]

Love this little rounds but expensive and few shops carry them here in southern Ontario

[@jakeoutdoors9600]

I like this ammo and the 20 gr sub sonic from Aguila. Nice review.

[@314299]

I have yet to try either the "colibrí" or "super colibrí ", should I come across any for sale I will give them a try.

[@zillajratomicray]

Aguila makes really interesting cartridges.

[@314299]

Yes they certainly do, the 22 COLIBRÍ is another one of their unusual rounds that I should video some time.

[@miketlane]

these are fun, i have shot so many pigions off the barn at 100 yards with these, shit ton of drop, very dirty to shoot but super quiet. they fly in one or 2 circles and land right back where they were. they are slow but hit good. had to plug a few holes in the sheet metal roof but they did punch thru the tin and the 2x4s under it. gotta get some more. oh and a can on the end makes them as loud as the bolt closing.

[@panthermartin7784]

🤣🤣 your shooting deliberately at a tin roof and then patching holes afterwards? Lol jhc perhaps you need a different approach.

[@miketlane]

@@panthermartin7784 no, im shooting at pigeons on the peak of the roof. my main approach is don't miss. 100s of pigeons dead over the years and only 2 holes in the tin....acceptable numbers

[@chesterpanda]

So it’s basically a .223/5.56 round with less oomph

[@ians1464]

It's a subsonic 5.56 .223

[@Code_Made]

@@ians1464 yup

[@dewaynewhite2928]

What a bullet!!!! But it will do the business whatever small game you want to shoot. Love the review and your channel!!! awesome!!!

[@314299]

Thanks for the comment.

[@kevnzl1267]

Excellent assessment, I've a CZ99 PRECISION .22 LONG RIFLE and the aguila .22 sss is working well on very large possums at 25 to 50 yards my reasion this amo is its quite and low ricochet also humane kills. Kind regards KEV

[@314299]

Thanks for the input, It's interesting to hear from folks who have used this ammo in the field.

[@raybede]

A great review. The drawback as you found seems to be ejection of the spent case, but accuracy was pretty good. I would be interested in penetration or killing effectiveness as well Thanks again.

[@314299]

The rifle used in the video has somewhat spotty ejection even with 22 LR, so I dont think I would blame that on the ammo.

[@theastro-philosophersappre2786]

The Aquila 60 gr subsonic is my go to ammo in my ruger heavy barrel suppressed. I’m getting 1/2” group at 50 yds, and that 60 gr hits like a brick!

[@jozefhorvat3625]

Excellent video mate 👍👍👍

[@314299]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

[@davidsomerset8411]

Interesting!!!! I remember others reviewing these some years back and they got mostly keyholes. Thanks for your review.

[@314299]

That's really what I was expecting as well, I was surprised they shot as well as they did.

[@rik4369]

I have had this ammo and shot through several rifles ( never a pistol). For me it was stable dependent on the twist of your barrel. As the video showed, 25 yards and closer it was dead on. I have taken squirrels out to 50 yards with it out of my Mossberg " Plinkster". Would I use it for Self- Defense? If it was all I had, yes! Wouldn't be in my starting (5). Excellent Video! Very honest opinion. The barrel twist does make a BIG difference in performance though.

[@davidsomerset8411]

@@rik4369thanks for info

[@patrickharding4831]

If they keyhole it means your rifling twist rate is too high for them.

[@frerecampbell9291]

Very well presented & analyzed, thanks for sharing.

[@314299]

Thank you for the comment.

[@mikehubbard5493]

Yea, they will tumble in long distances, or odd loads. You can actually see the bullets leaving the barrel sometimes.

[@MrRoverpilot]

I would really really love to see this ammo fired from a CZ 455 with a 28 and three eights inch barrel. Reason being is that rifle is considered to be a sniper quality out of the box. Very very consistent with fine rifling.

[@makeamericagreatagain7314]

I use it in my single shot Winchester 28 inch rifle and its quite

[@ians1464]

It is quiet in the one that I've got but the twist rates not fast enough

[@rreevesb3]

I've used it great round. Add a slicener it gets super quite. I wish winnchister would use that 60 grain bullet in there 22 mag subsonic.

[@u.p.woodtick3296]

My favorite small game hunting round

[@PlayingWithFireOutdoors]

I did a review of it also using 2 rifles. with my GSG15 it keyholed about 1 round out of 5. with my Ruger American classic .22 in a bolt action i can group them no issues with keyholeing. I use these for grouse hunting . and used my cel phone as a DB meter 66 - 60 dbs for it vs 79 +dbs for standard ammo

[@johnnycampbell3422]

Been using this stuff for years. I love it. Shooting turtles i never have a ricochet. Supper accurate under 50 yards.

[@johnnycampbell3422]

Edit. Feeds and ejects fine from ruger mark I and 1022. Ive shot about 8 bricks of it.

[@scottstewart5784]

just curious - what kind of turtles? i haven't heard of turtle hunting - learn something new every day i guess!

[@leonstancliff7218]

Good luck with that! This is the unicorn of .22 ammo. No one has it, no one has had it for years, no one knows when they will get any more.

[@aarondmason808]

False. I know of one place to get it online. $6.99 a box.

[@leonstancliff7218]

@@aarondmason808 Post a link please. See how nice I'm asking?

[@aarondmason808]

22pistol. 0 R G

[@314299]

It seems to depend on where you live. I've not seen any for sale around here for a few years.

[@corvusnoirreviews4908]

Great review. Thanks for posting

[@314299]

Glad you liked it, thanks for commenting.

[@dennisfaugh2976]

my buddy and I "tested" a bunch of different .22 brands in 4 different rifles, including an expensive target rifle. I had a couple boxes of these, so we tried them along with different "regular" and target loads. And these were as accurate, or almost, as the "best" target brands!!! Kinda amazing, actually...They do drop like stones tho

[@ClearWater7.62]

How many yards?

[@kentuckyearl8202]

I keep these in my 6 inch revolver. Worked great on that copper head in my driveway. I was lucky that I wasn't bitten, had my gun, and it wasn't even loud enough to ring my ears when I unloaded on that snake.

[@314299]

A+ for being prepared.

[@terrylick5908]

these are brilliant. can't get any in Australia which sucks. have to make them😉

[@314299]

Could not get these for a long time where I live (east coast of Canada) but at the moment they are available. You might want to enquire with Aguila to see if they have a distributor in Australia.

[@terrylick5908]

+314299 Shooting Channel thankyou mate ill get a mate at the gunshop to try. they are very nice. and cbees are excellent also cant get them either at the moment. thankyou kindly. have a great year. 👍 😉

[@forrestsecord7743]

Excellent, great methodology & presentation

[@314299]

Thank you.

[@dr.murray2122]

WELL DONE THOROUGH AND CLEAR THX

[@314299]

You are welcome, thanks for the comment.

[@thomdickinson3311]

Aguila recommends a higher twist rate. I use it with a 1:12 rate in a 20" Green Mountain barrel and get much tighter groups...even out to 100 yards.

[@314299]

Where is this recommendation found?

[@RocklandRednecks]

Ive never came across this ammo on the east coast will pick some up if I get the chance. Great review.

[@314299]

It's just showed up around here, first time I've had a chance to try it.

[@denisivey1592]

Was it old stock? Good post.

[@JoeZelensky]

@@denisivey1592 Gander Outdoors

[@broznkyra4853]

This would prolly work well as s close in delf defense round...if all you had as a carry piece was a .22 LR firearm...I had an ND back in 2004 or so...it went through the wall of my mobile home across the lot and into my neighbors detached utility room...it keyholed as it entered...thank God no one was injured...it taught me a lesson about VISUALLY checking a chamber before dropping the hammer on an 'empty' chamber....this stuff IS good

[@314299]

That's the kind of excitement we can all live without.

[@regsparkes6507]

My NS522 does the same thing on ejecting ( or trying to) the shell seems to want to eject straight up but hit the scope and mostly falls back down in the port. I'm impressed with the 50 yard or meter range shooting with these 'Sniper Subsonic' rounds, I only wish I could buy them here in Newfoundland & Labrador.

[@314299]

My NS522 ejects reasonably well with regular long rifle as long as I remember to cycle the bolt back with vigor. These Aguila rounds just recently became available here, ask your local shop and they might be able to bring some in for you.

[@regsparkes6507]

Yes, your correct, again, this is the method I have realized that makes the shells 'fly' out. Also I was at my favorite indoor range/ gun store today, and they are going to check on these Aguila rounds for me. Thanks!

[@ryanlehan1030]

these are hearing safe, no need for the ear muffs. thanks for the in-depth review!

[@314299]

They dont seem so "quiet" to me that hearing protection is not required, furthermore they get a lot louder when fired in a short barrel (pistol). At any rate I shoot on a range where another shooter just might decide to let rip with a .300 Mag with a muzzle break and I dont want to be caught without my "ears" on.

[@walterkersting9922]

Pretty sure the sub sonic designation refers to the notion that it goes slower than 1150 ft./s, not that it’s quiet.

[@ryanlehan1030]

walter kersting right, however 50% of the loud crack you hear is the projectile breaking the sound barrier.

[@plainlogic]

Fired from my savage mkIITR it was whisper quiet. Hitting the backstop was louder than the report.

[@seanyouknowwho798]

Surprised not to see any tumbling at 90 yrds. I have started getting some interest in this mfg ammo, not just in the 22 varieties. Nice video!

[@314299]

Thanks. Aguila seems like a company who makes quality ammo.

[@rumblertag8933]

Love these rounds really great for hunting

[@314299]

Should be good up close.

[@crawfordthornton9119]

What do you hunt with these?

[@roundsout1557]

I'm going to go down and get some this payday just to have and I'm going to test with a silenced Walther P22 thanks for posting the video I learned a lot ! Nice rifle !!!!7/28/18 SPOKANE WA !

[@JoeZelensky]

What were your results?

[@m.s.l.7746]

These are perfect for the CMMG 22lr conversion bcg & mags. Especially if your ar15 barrel is a 1in9 twist.

[@314299]

I highly doubt they are powerful enough to cycle a .22 auto, including an AR-15 .22 conversion kit. Most .22 auto's require high velocity ammo and will not run properly with standard velocity ammo. However the only way to know for sure is to try them for yourself.

[@m.s.l.7746]

I use these exclusively in my conversion. As far as them not being stout enough to cycle a semi auto... The heavy bullet actually creates more back pressure. The Same can be said for the 1in9 twist barrels... The faster the twist, 1in9 as apposed to 1in16 (almost twice the rate), the more back pressure. Not to mention these 60gr only truly stabilize in 1in9 twist barrels. If you think your standard 22lr barrel is stabilizing these then shoot them at 100yd & beyond... They will almost certainly be keyholeing.

[@vexbomer]

Out of my ruger 1022 this stuff key holed like crazy

[@314299]

That's really what I was expecting, but to my surprise there was acceptable accuracy, at least from this particular rifle.

[@gjones7777]

stites outdoors - that's because a standard 10/22 twist rate is 1 in 16.....way to slow for 60grn bullets. you will need an aftermarket barrel with a 1:9 twist rate for the SSS round....

[@Durandarte3004]

stites outdoors in my ruger I have a lot of problems don't cycle properly how can I do?

[@Durandarte3004]

I like the Aguila subsonic because is ultra destructive.even more than a 9me shooting from a pistol I live in Mexico and we have to many restrictions to have firearms to defence, at home only use the subsonic cartridge in my 17 shot Mendoza puma...for MI very picky ruger in he's promag g36 disguise I use standard cartridges and still have malfunction s

[@gjones7777]

ROLANDO .......make sure you gun is VERY CLEAN......when my gun is dirty, the SSS will jam.................but when my gun is clean, they work ok for me

[@broznkyra4853]

I expect the accuracy will degrade over 'long' (relatively for .22LR) distances...the standard twist for .22 LR is 1 in 16...not the 1 in 9 used to stabilize the standard 62 grain 5.56 NATO round...

[@314299]

That's pretty much what the video shows.

[@Purpletuty]

I'd love to get a 1:9 twist 28" barrel for my Mossberg LSA 144. The standard barrel will do under one inch at 100 yards, but my AR15 with CMMG .22 LR conversion kite can hit 1.5" circle at 50 yards and 12 shots every 10 seconds - better than with lighter bullets. Precision bolt action with fast twist and a silencer would be an amazing head shot weapon. An SSS 60 bullet drilled 5/6" deep with a 3/32 h drill filled with Vaseline and capped with wax plug turns obliterated a wet compressed roll of toilet paper.

[@314299]

Your AR has what rate of twist?

[@bobburnitt5389]

It *appears* this ammo has about the same OMMPH as a 22 SHORT. So, it will not cycle any 22 I have that is semi-auto. But in the Revolvers and other manual actions, it "works well" shooting at a paper target. I don't "hunt" but I live on a farm and this is good for getting rid of a nuisance Skunk that is trying to live too close to me. You know, a couple of people have told me this stuff was popular with some people for MURDERS!! You know, low noise, and a 60 grain bullet shot up close, I guess it would be good for that LMAO. I don't want to be in THAT racket. So far ANYTHING I have tried that says Aguilla on it has been MORE than satisfactory. It is good stuff, BB

[@314299]

By way of energy the SSS load with it's 60 grain bullet at 908 fps gives about 110 foot pounds of energy compared to a 29 grain standard velocity shorts at 830 fps which has about 44 foot pounds and the 29 grain high velocity short at 1095 giving 77 foot pounds of energy. Not hard to see which one would be better on a rather solid critter like a skunk.

[@charliebrownsd]

Looks like the lower twist rate of that barrel isn't able to stabilize the bullets at those longer distances. Makes sense considering most 22lr is 40gr out of 1:10 to 1:15 twist barrels. I'm going to get some of this for my CMMG conversion kit for my AR rifle and pistol because they have 1:8 and 1:7 twist rates respectively. This ammo should stabilize pretty well in those twist rates since I normally shoot 62gr 556 through both. I'll be interested to see how the cycling works, I don't tend to get extraction issues on the pistol. Thank you for the review and showing your results! Looked like a nice day at the range.

[@314299]

Standard factory made 22 LR barrels are generally 1 in 16" twist. Yes, I realize there are some exceptions to this but the vast majority of 22 rifles and pistols that have been made over the years. No doubt a faster twist will lead to somewhat better performance with the SSS load. When it comes to AR conversion kits I have found them to be poor performers in regards to accuracy as there is an enormous amount of "free bore" from the conversion insert to the actual barrel of the 223/556 firearm. The best systems use a dedicated 22LR upper/barrel, for one of those a 1-9" barrel would be nice and should allow decent accuracy with most 22 ammo.

[@charliebrownsd]

@@314299 Great feedback! Yes, the conversion kit isn't as accurate and it does dirty up the barrel and gun more than 556. It's really more for plinking and to same money until 556 becomes more affordable down the road.

[@johnblackbird7523]

Great shooting

[@314299]

Thanks.

[@SH1974]

I have tested them too. They don't like every barrel. (I guess it depends on the twist rate) Shot from my 70's Austrian made Voere biathlon training rifle (Model 1007, 16,5" barrel, bolt action), they're very precise at 25 and 50 meters, similar or maybe a tiny bit better to Your results. But shot out of my Ruger 10/22 (Model Target, w/ hammered 20" x 1" bull barrel) they're unprecise (groups 4" or more) and some are keyholing on 50 meters. But in both my rifles, they feed and extract way better. Not 100%, but way better.

[@314299]

The NS522 used in the video has the standard one in sixteen twist rate, so I wonder if the extra length of the barrel is what matters. Lots of people report poor performance in the 10/22 with standard barrel that is 18.5" long whereas the NS522 has a 21" barrel. As for extraction, this particular rifle has always has extraction issues so I dont blame that on the ammo.

[@sbjennings99]

Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls

[@314299]

Thanks.

[@Jammed_Toast]

Always wondered if my 522 would stabilize these, thanks for the review! Haven't found them in N.B yet. I chuckled when you flicked the case out, happens once with my rifle every couple mags. Do yourself a favor and pick up some Aguila Standard Velocities, my 522 loves them. Great channel, you should pick up/review a Scorpio Em322a. Same action as the 522. Always wondered if the Scorpio shared the 522's accuracy. I picked up a 10rnd magazine for one and it fits my 522, just a little loose. Thanks!

[@314299]

I was not aware that they were making the EM322 again. Interesting. A quick look around on-line does not show anyone with them in stock. The local dealer says he has a bunch of Aguila ammo coming, hopefully there is some of that standard velocity stuff with his order.

[@mrtundranutz1]

What about energy on target figures compared to a standard 40 grain .22 long rifle ? Being 20 grains heavier will one of these subsonics hit a gopher just as hard at 25 yards as the faster but lighter long rifle ?

[@314299]

Doing that test would involve setting up the crono close to the target. That would prove interesting but could result in a bullet in the crono if things went wrong. Still, it's something I could consider if I get another box or two of this ammo, the gun shop is currently sold out of it.

[@flashgordon99999]

At the muzzle the 60 grain at 940 is around 55 to 60 ft lbs compared to standard velocity 40 gr around the 120 - 130 ft lbs.

[@josephcameron4771]

I think it is more like 120 ft lbs not 55 to 60. Plus it won't lose energy as fast.

[@WilliamStewart1]

flashgordon99999 They have 120 ftlbs

[@robertmueller6979]

use a chrono that relies on sound..... no bullet holes

[@pewpewwithtodd8077]

Just picked up a box of these yesterday, there going in my Ruger American bolt gun and I'm going to be using a Silencer co Sparrow can.

[@314299]

That should be a very quiet combination.

[@davidhandyman7571]

Those drops at 75 and 90 yards with a 50 yard zero is on the mark for subsonic .22lr ammo.

[@314299]

The "SSS" having a heavy 60 grain bullet ought to have a better ballistic coefficient than the regular 40 grain in a regular subsonic. The "SSS" load having a lower speed probably is what makes the drop similar to regular subsonic loads.

[@josephnorcalusa1710]

thank you , for sharing !

[@skipellison3667]

To help stabilize these round you need a 1in 10 twist, a standard 22 is 1 in 16, for short range they are great, however they are fantastic at 200 and 300 yards with the faster twist barrel

[@314299]

I've fired standard velocity 40 grain out to 300 yards and there is an enormous amount of drop, with these it would be even worse, WHat sort of sights are you using and how much adjustment elevation are you adding for those distances?

[@skipellison3667]

@@314299 30 mm scope with 20 moa scope base, cheap bushnell scope

[@314299]

@@skipellison3667 I'm surprised you have enough elevation in that combo to get to 300.

[@skipellison3667]

Also I forgot I have a couple of beer can shims under the rear mount base

[@davidwagner6055]

Good video as always

[@314299]

Appreciate that.

[@dutchman7036]

Work great in my Sig Misquote. Cycles the action every time.

[@314299]

Good to know.

[@alexxu3004]

I find the best thing about these is they can knock down steel targets with my henry 22, and almost hear safe, somehow they can cycle my browning buckmark too

[@314299]

They certainly have lots of momentum for a .22 LR.

[@goodwater2020]

I tried these n cci 22 quiet. The quiet ccis were least noisy, almost like suppressed. The aguillia bounced of hard oak tree at 10 yards so not recommended by me. Love the ccis though. Just my opinion. Thanks 4 vid.

[@johnwoods3184]

I've shot these out of a CZ 455 American and they are very accurate and they hit hard.

[@314299]

Good to know.

[@davidgiffordsr.930]

Well done. Wondering about penetration compared to regular, standard velocity or High Velocity rounds.

[@314299]

That would be an interesting test for someone to do.

[@GunGirlsATL]

2:20 I thought your rifle was malfunctioning. I had to rewind it to see if it was actually firing.

[@314299]

These rounds are pretty quiet.

[@sammyhooligan803]

Just curious, how and what type of shooting is this ammunition to be used for? I always see on websites I ordered ammo from, I just can't figure what a heavier.22 that seems like it would have considerably less velocity, be better for what? Thanks for video.

[@314299]

The big advantage to this ammo is that it is very low noise but still having decent power (for a 22 rimfire) due to the heavy bullet. The weight extra weight of the bullet makes up to some degree for the low velocity, this ensures decent penetration. Uses include pest control at short range where noise would be a concern. Disadvantages include shorter range and the fast drop of the bullet at distance.

[@Munky332]

I'd be curious if they used stock-length cases, with that huge bullet, ignored the cartridge OAL requirement for mag length (so no putting it in mags like in a ruger 10/22 or your norinco) -- basically requiring single feeding (or beign restricted to bolt guns) what sort of velocities could be achieved and how it would effective accuracy. might make a good option for something like a rough rider too. maybe dub it the "22 Long-ER rifle" lol since 22 mag is already taken...

[@flyingninja1234]

That is a lot of bullet. Aguila also makes those mini shotgun shells.

[@marynollaig4124]

I would have thought the 1 in 16 rifling would cause key holing with such a long bullet.

[@314299]

It is just at the edge of stability with the standard 1 in 16" twist. Some rifles/pistols shoot it well, others do not.

[@L.V-Rider]

Did you test CCI Quiet 710fpr out of your Norinco? I see some differing results out of other rifles but never saw what the CCI Quiet do in a Norinco.

[@314299]

No I have not, however I do have some CCI Quiet and I plan to try some soon. I recently purchased a decibel meter and I want to see how "quiet" CCI Quiet is.

[@L.V-Rider]

@@314299 Out of a rifle they are quiet, that you can bet your hat on. Most people just test for noise and that is getting old, but few test for accuracy. Forget the noise test. All of the low budget decibel meters are no good for rifle noise testing anyway, you need really professional equipment for that. The average .22 rifle report at 150 to to 165 dB with sub-sonic and HV, check if your meter reach that. If it is a budget meter it will not. Are the Quiet ammo accurate? That is the question. Low noise and hitting power is nothing without accuracy. It seems with some rifles they are accurate up to 25 meter but at 50 meter with most rifles the grouping fall apart. The few that was tested anyway. You should try 25 and 50 meter (or yard) for accuracy.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

very cool i keep a cylinder in my 9 shot harrington and richards in case someone needs a gun now and cant really use a bigger gun 22 here hard to come by i dont think that stuff would cycle in a semi auto well but i do have some minimags i ordered the tandemkross for my dads little sr22 he got from me for my mom so it will hold 16 the states arent a nice place to be at the moment

[@314299]

Yeah not great especially since the rigging of your last elections.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

@@314299 im sure there is always cheating but people are apeshit now.

[@MrLeo1623]

Personally, I like Aguila's bullets. It is a very costly ammunition. If compared to other brands that are more expensive at 25 meters, I am able to grow bullets only .22LR shells using the TOZ 78 gun attached to the soundproof tube ... It's great for hunting in the distance.

[@stanclayton221]

Which Norinco model is that? I'm looking for the barrel length, as I am interested to shoot the Aguila SSS through my Remington 521T with a 1:16 twist and a 24" barrel. Thanks!

[@314299]

0:26

[@stanclayton221]

@@314299 Thanks...your voice was so smooth I didn't hear the NS522. That said, I see on the internet that its barrel is a nominal 21" long. Someone else I know used the Aguila SSS in his 512T, but was disappointed with their accuracy until having it sleeved to 1:8. I plan to shoot some Aquila SSS through my rifle with its 1:16 twist to establish a baseline before swapping to a 1:8 twist (I have two barrels, one of which I'll have sleeved). Thanks for a terrific video...subscribed!

[@mikehubbard5493]

They really do thump when shooting squirrels. I've shot squirrels with thse 60 gr, bullets, and the squirrels go flying in the air when hit. I had one fly end over end upon impact in the upper chest.

[@314299]

Makes sense with the bullet being 50% heavier than standard.

[@21313cord21]

I have problems with lead peal off clogging the action and affecting full injection and ejection.

[@caseyalso1684]

Very interesting, thanks a lot.

[@314299]

Glad you liked it.

[@conservativeminuteman9202]

Twist it a little tight for that weight and will cause it to skip and not get proper spin.

[@williambeasley2582]

These work ok in a longer barrel revolver 6 inch or better on rabbits at 10 -20 yards . Head shots one shot one kill. I have used them for a long time at least 6 years they do tend to spread at greater distance

[@314299]

Interesting. Any particular reason you choose to use them in a handgun?

[@williambeasley2582]

@@314299 doing head shots on rabbits the slower but heavier bullet seems to give better results. I also use .38 spl wadcutters for a similar result . All I want is a quick and effective death so a close distance averaging 10 yards and a rabbit meal for two thanks for the question.. my reason for the handgun is simple I have toyed with them for over 40 years and have always preferred revolvers . After retiring I decided that a handgun would kill anything I needed.and was much more easy to carry. On an average hunt I can get 2 bunnies that is all I want to clean at the time

[@jorgemaldonado8744]

Aguila means eagle

[@ninobrown9731]

No mames al chile?

[@Maxumized]

NINO BROWN La Verga!

[@gioflores96]

Oh? Serio pendejo?

[@OrangeBananaMongoose]

Never knew that, thanks!

[@forrestbryant6309]

You might have a look at your extractor, assuming the empty casings arent bouncing off your optic.

[@314299]

Extraction is fine, but ejection has always been spotty with this rifle, with any round not just the ones used in the video.

[@lukegodin8653]

Another awesome video. Thank you. Where you buy those in Canada

[@314299]

I got mine from a local gun shop, but you can get them on-line www.wanstallsonline.com/aguila-sss-sniper-subsonic-22lr-60gr-lead-round-nose-50-rounds.html www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/aguila-22lr-60gr-sss-lrn-box-of-50.html#.Wf3JRIjQ_IU

[@George-ph6qo]

The cooey semi 22lr I had tagged my empty clear plastic case at 175 yd first shot at the flash. Is it the rifle or the bullet. They were CIL. No scope.

[@314299]

There is a lot of bullet drop out at 175 yards with a .22, you must have guessed the correct hold over exactly. CIL .22 ammo was of very good quality.

[@xochj]

Definitely need a 1:7 or faster twist. I love these rounds!

[@314299]

The NS522 has a standard 1-16" twist and I thought the ammo performed quite well in spite of that.

[@bosstube9046]

So rifles with 20+ inch barrels will stabilize them perfectly but it's a crap shoot

[@bosstube9046]

@@314299 how long is the barrel on your norinco I've got a savage mkii with a 21 in and a marlin 38 with a 25 in that I'm gonna try these out in have you tried them in a mkii

[@bosstube9046]

@@314299 I've also heard a lot of people say they will stabalize out of some handguns mainly ruger autoloaders and s&w revolvers

[@piosian4914]

.243 - .244 all over again! .244 or 6mm Rem was a superior round but because the twist was not tight enough, slugs tumble, keyhole and accuracy suffered for not enough spin.

[@conker33350]

Probably a stupid question but why did they make the cartridge like that? Why not just let it look like a normal .22LR but with little powder. That things looks like it would jam a lot.

[@314299]

The .22 uses a heeled bullet meaning the bullet must be the same diameter as the case, there is no other way to get a 60 grain bullet in a .22LR chamber unless the case is short. If the desired effect is "normal" .22LR with less powder there are lots of those on the market, all the subsonic 40 grain loads do just that. As for the SSS being "jammy" it is not as bad as you would think and works decent in most guns.

[@danfiscus9263]

I have a Marlin 39a golden and it shoots these bullets pretty good haven't tried past 25 yards but at 25 there good no key hole going to have to go out tomorrow and try 50-100

[@314299]

How did you get along at 50 and 100?

[@mrjohnnylongsleeves4128]

Don't bother if you're only firing semi-auto. It won't reliably eject the 22 short casing. Jam after jam. Nice in my revolver though.

[@314299]

I tried them in my CZ511 semi and they worked fine, also in a Ruger MKII pistol and they ejected without problem.

[@mrjohnnylongsleeves4128]

@@314299 Not saying they won't work. I'm saying they won't be reliable enough for me. Watch the vid again. How many times did he have to clear an unejected casing with his finger. Glad they work for you!

[@benworkman177]

i USE A 1 IN 9 TWIST RATE BARREL ON A RUGER 10/22 AS THE ROUNDS DO TEND TO KEY HOLE THE 1 IN 16 NORMAL TWIST RATE.

[@314299]

I hear people say that about the 1-16" twist but the rifle in the video has a 1-16" barrel and no real signs of any instability until the 75 yard mark. Perhaps it's just Ruger barrels.

[@SomervilleBob]

Velocity and bullet weight works out to about 110 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle.

[@314299]

Decent for a 22 round.

[@SomervilleBob]

@@314299 I used to win 2x4 handgun shoots with these. First one to shoot a 2x4 in half wins. These bullets would tumble and act like a buzz saw.

[@reikyfoxxe1847]

Can you imagine an american 180 loaded with these

[@314299]

I can imagine a lot of jamming.

[@timhallas4275]

Every one of these that I fired so far has tumbled and key-holed at 15 and 25 feet out of a pistol, and at 40 yards out of my Marlin 60. I have yet to figure out what they are for.

[@314299]

I've tried these out of not just the NS522 in the video but also a CZ-511 rifle, a Ruger MKII pistol and a Llama revolver and I have not yet had any rounds "keyhole".

[@CorbinDas]

With a tighter twist rate, these are pretty nice. Out of my M&P 22 pistol, they would keyhole at 20 feet. Not enough of a spin and/or too short a barrel for the heavier round.

[@314299]

Aguila's website makes no recommendation of a faster than standard twist being required for this round, they do however state "Recommended for use in barrels longer than 20". No doubt a faster twist would be better, however the test gun used in the video has a standard 1 in 16" rate of twist and it performed quite well in my opinion.

[@uppitywhiteman6797]

Try it in a small auto. This up close and personal shooting

[@314299]

I don't have any small .22 auto pistols to try it in. I rather doubt this stuff has enough power to cycle most autos anyway, rifle or pistol.

[@uppitywhiteman6797]

Interesting. Didn't think of that. It was a good clean , crisp video

[@314299]

It would be interesting to try, but regrettably the gun shop I got these at has not got any more of this stuff in stock since I did this video.