Comparing CCI's New Subsonic 45 Grain .22 LR

In this video I will be testing and comparing accuracy and terminal performance of a few different sub sonic .22 LR loads. I will be including CCI's new 45 grain loading in comparison to the others I have on hand. If you are a .22 rimfire hunter, this video is for you.

[@AJ-cn1xy]

Can't wait to try the CCI Subsonic small game this squirrel season. Thank you for testing them. Can always check out Cumberland Outdoors to see what works.

[@AppalachianNick]

I am new to hunting and really enjoy and learn a lot on your videos. Did you notice the squirrel running across your targets at around 11:08-11:12 in this video? Funny how in the woods they can be hard to find but you're out shooting and it runs right in front of your targets😂

[@jeffdanner653]

Quality ammo , quality rifle , marksman behind the trigger ; produces good groups and GR8 videos ! You compared 5 of the best "non match" ammo available , and showed group size and projectile performance admirably . I recently tried the CCI 45g HP and was pleasantly surprised . Had been shooting the 40g CCI subsonic , but have switched . The Eley flat point HP is superb in 2 rifles . This shows the importance of keeping a record of what rifle/ammo combination can make on paper and in the woods . Combined with a suppressor , the subsonic rounds are extremely quiet . Last winter I took 2 grey squiirel out of the same tree within 30 seconds . Don't think they even knew I was there . Hats off to CCI , and you 🍀

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

Thanks Jeff, You make a good point in your comments. I have been meaning to keep a written record of each rifles preferred loading (just like I do with my centerfire guns). I think I'll make a video covering that very subject. It should prove helpful not only for me but my viewers as well.

[@garywhelansr5602]

Nice shooting sir.. Ive been using CCI s for over 50yrs. in both 22s 22mag.. Fine Ammo. Gonna try some of that new 45 gr. Keep your powder dry sir.👍🏻🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@waynejenkins6259]

Wow!! That second group you shot with the subsonic HP 45 grain was lights out. It doesn’t get any better than that. I’d call that minute of squirrel eye. lol I picked up another 581 last week that’s ready to go to the range either today or tomorrow. This one was made in the early ‘70’s and has the mahogany stock. The trigger seems a little heavy, so your trigger service technique may be in order. Great video and great shooting, as usual.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I really like the mahogany stocked Remingtons from the early 70's. I hope that little 581 will shoot well for you.😊

[@watchmanonthewall3852]

Just bought a Marlin 99 m1...nice looking hope it's nice shooting. Bought it after watching your videos. Guess I'll be looking to buy some of this CCI ammo....gotta stop watching videos. Seems to cost me $$ when I do. I get that "itch" to buy things after watching you sir. Thank you. I truly value your opinion and expertise.

[@dratsab1980able]

I couldn't agree more about the ELEY rounds, the ELEY Sports performed like a competition round, very well made and consistent at a regular price, easily getting 0.5" groups at 50m.

[@lorbachehgiah8369]

سلام دوست عزیز،،،من کانال شما را دنبال میکنم و بسیار لذت میبرم از ویدئوهای شما ،امیدوارم همیشه سالم و سلامت باشید.(من از ایران هستم)

[@scenicdriveways6708]

Nice video Tom, thanks for sharing it with us. I may try some of that ammo on squirrels. JT

[@johnnydavidson1611]

Great info.! I want to try some subsonic. very informative...Thanks!

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I hope it does well for you.

[@richardfrost7575]

Note I found that the Aguila tolerates following the eley ammunition quite well.

[@motorosso3349]

It is always fun to watch you shoot the 581, I love mine. I think heavier bullets can be very accurate. Let us know if you hunt with the that CCI 45 grain ammo.

[@jagrench62]

I bought this song box in the store picked them up. Play shoot like the Dickens out of a 10/22.

[@cute_animalsanddrawingvideos]

Bret and Linda Olin would be proud of this anmo

[@jimv.661]

I sorted 12 or so different types of ammo into groups by weight. When I got through, the sorted groups for each type mirrored what the targets looked like. In other words, for any particular cartridge weighed, the smaller the difference in weight for that type, the smaller the group on the target.

[@roln2535]

That CCI very uniform expansion. . Should be good ammo. Thanks

[@independentthinker8930]

Good shootin!

[@markworden9169]

In my experience too really wring out accuracy differences or group shooting a benchrest type rock solid rest and an adjustable objective is a must also try free recoil trigger control.

[@edwardkawecki8101]

Just curious. At 3:50 while showing the Eley round, why does the case have a dent in it? Thanks, always informative videos.

[@GrEmLiN76X]

Ha, just the video I was looking for.

[@janboyd]

Suggestions, Duke nailed the lube differences or I would have. 581 a mag feed, may have bbl issue like my 580 did, slip fit into rec'vr, new grn mtn bbl w/.003" press fit, way better! A 581 come to me, parts msg, so had to scrounge, again a greenie bbl, same fit up, wowzee!!! You have the chance, try the 541 m or s model next to your 581 and you'll see why they cost 2x-3x over the 80 81 82 series.

[@richardfrost7575]

I found especially with the aguila that it doesn't fallow other brands very well. In my mossberg's 46B(b) 26inch bbl the aguila ammunition gives me similarly poor accuracy after other brands, but from a clean bore and 10 fouling shots it tightens up to a pinpoint group and stays there, until I introduce another brand ammunition. I almost discounted the ammunition because of that, my use was strictly for target use and at 100yds. Not quite the same groups as your 40yd groups 😮 but on a good day, for me and wind it was suprisingly close with the version of Aguila I was using. I actually got a couple of 10 round groups at 100yds you could cover with a dime and only have a very small amount of fuzzy holes showing ( one of their target versions, can't find the boxes right now) and it was an exceptional day for me 😊.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

The lubricant differences must have an affect on their performance.

[@richardfrost7575]

Yep use Aguila and only Aguila unless you want to clean bbl between ammunition brands. Was really surprised just how bad it was following Winchester I mean pencil eraser sized group at 25yds to 1.5 inch group following Winchester. All this being subject to my rifles.

[@markthilenius5533]

I think you would be really impressed with SK standard plus 50 yd groups through my cz 457’s which I have two of one with standard barrel and one target barrel one hole groups if you do you’re part thanks for another great video

[@gbvhunter8374]

Great video and cci is great ammo and also do you do 22 work videos

[@davidinsvaz7883]

I have had very good luck with the Aguila 60 grain ammo. Some of my rifles love it, while some are just average.

[@markworden9169]

Can't remember if it was the 10/22 stock barrel or the green mountain but the 60 grain would not stabilize.

[@setapart1forever]

God bless bro

[@johnwillenburg1586]

Tom how are you, and have you tried the Norman 24 yes 24 gr. Flat nose hyper velocity, call it eco speed,lead free,1706 fps zinc copper alloy.love watching you, and thanks for showing me how to fix my marlin 60 c.thanks again Tom.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I have not tried those yet, but maybe if I run across them I'll review it. I'm glad you found the Marlin 60 repair video useful. Thanks, and take care.

[@ronkay1573]

Thanks for the review but “Every” rimfire rifle I own has a preference for certain hunting ammo. Most prefer Eley subsonic HP’s or RWS HP’s. They’re expensive but I don’t mind paying for quality. Those European brands shoot 50% or better in accuracy than CCI.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I agree fully. Eley, RWS, SK, and even Sellier & Bellot are pretty tough contenders in the accuracy department. I do however have a few rifles that shoot CCI stuff very well.

[@yourmomma2995]

that little chipmunk at 11:09 had a lot of nerve!

[@alexmorris3106]

Just a suggestion, when you are trying different ammo don't change your aiming point. Adjust the group to it after the group.ECK USMC.

[@benjamincrooker2533]

Did anybody else see the 🐿️ that went by in front of the lumber pile? 🤭

[@duke8152]

Remember each manufacturer uses a different lubricant. Thus, each of them need a barrel seasoning.

[@williamgaines9784]

Your assumption is the lubricants are "conflicting" somehow? I would imagine only needing to "reseason" a barrel that has been scrubbed clean.

[@charleywalker2982]

@@williamgaines9784sometimes when changing ammo you need to shoot a few to get the barrel seasoned to the lubricant. I knew a well known rimfire match shooter that swore by dipping his shells in hoppes gun solvent !! He would out shoot most people so I wasn’t going to argue!!!

[@terrancewilson5035]

Did your gun warm up ? Nice 2 nd. Group.

[@chrismcrae4652]

My concern is will they cycle thru a semi ruger rifle and pistol. Please test that

[@exothermal.sprocket]

CCI has almost always confused me by the vast array of .22LR. Does each option do drastically different things than the other? I can see about 4 options that make a meaningful difference, but the rest seems pedantic.

[@marknelson8574]

Try Wolf Target Match Extra I have done this test and Wof surpasses them all The Key is consistant Muzzle velocity

[@charleywalker2982]

❤ 👍

[@Eatzbugs-q2w]

So will it drop like a stone by 100 yds?

[@cw2a]

These didnt shoot for me. BUT, the "SUPPRESSOR" ammo was GREAT!!! ❤❤

[@lorbachehgiah8369]

سلام دوست عزیز ،،،بسیار عالی بود و تشکر از شما برای ویدئوهای زیبا،،،یه سوال دارم، بیشترین فاصله ای که با کالیبر ۲۲ میتوان خرگوش را شکار کرد ،چقدر است ؟آیا در ۱۵۰ یارد، یا ۲۰۰ یارد هم میتوان هدف را زد؟🙌

[@aah5584]

It depends on your equipment, your skills and the weather. I can shoot 1.5 inches groups at 100 meters in a calm day with cci standard velocity and my cheap old norinco jw 14 with a 16 power scope

[@lorbachehgiah8369]

@@aah5584 سلام ،با استفاده از یک مهمات با سرعت استاندارد،یک خرگوش یا سنجاب ،در فاصله ۱۵۰یارد کشنده است؟

[@aah5584]

@@lorbachehgiah8369 you should try to hit constantly at a target like cans or stones at the distance you are planning to hunt.

[@lorbachehgiah8369]

​@@aah5584سلام از راهنمایی شما بسیار ممنون هستم و منتظر ویدئوهای جدید شما هستم

[@cute_animalsanddrawingvideos]

Just ordered 500 rounds of this anmo

[@mikeburchard4612]

Have you tried any sk ammo

[@jameslower1866]

lucky chipmunk 11;09 lol

[@tedberwick3186]

Turned my late uncle on to Rem. subsonic.

[@TheJHMAN1]

Years ago I bought some 60gr subsonic. They were not very accurate and keyholed a lot.

[@rogerdavis2056]

How does it compare to the cci stingers?

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

The Stinger is a completely different .22 loading. Stingers usually have an escape velocity of around 1600 fps, and these subsonic loads are around the 900-1000 fps range.

[@BigRooster616]

You should have always kept the same Focus point on the center dot of the bullseye you were shooting for a group shooting for a group not trying to hit the bullseye

[@christophercolt1361]

priced like 22mag

[@pnotuner1]

I tried the Winchester M-22 subsonic and it was awful. Utter garbage. It is also 45 grains, but coated with black copper, whatever that is. It was a box full of misfires and FTFs and FTEs. I gave away about 250 rounds to someone at the range. Maybe it worked better for them.

[@bobg3633]

Winchester ammo has gotten pretty bad. It doesnt matter what caliber either, I picked up 12 guage and 30 06 and very unhappy with quality

[@corbinhotsauce7724]

That stuffs not new I’ve been using it for years

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

Right. I think it was introduced in 2019. I should have clarified that it was newer than the 40 grain CCI subsonic stuff.

[@chrismcrae4652]

Waxed lead is never good thru a suppressor, copper coated won't lead and wax up your can