Agurin Warps the Korean Jungle Meta

[@LoLDobby]

Achieving 1st and 2nd place in solo queue at the same time is truly an unimaginably amazing feat. You can try forcing your opponents to use their gank first, and then respond accordingly. The game will go better than you might expect. www.youtube.com/@Agurinlol www.deeplol.gg/summoner/EUW/Agurin-EUW www.deeplol.gg/summoner/EUW/Bgurin-4000

[@johnsmiles715]

at 4:10 i was watching live he had disgusting botlaners he came back with pickaxe they hard win 3v3 they just had to figth the zyra and game would be over. He was so mad. This bot was just bad.

[@tsunamininja]

when is Cgurin getting to 3rd place?

[@braindeadbrick553]

jungle became so unskillful over the years its really disgusting

[@bobwilton7553]

hmmm i think you need to make a video on Bgurin, word is this guy is getting better and better and might outrank agurin soon

[@SplitSeoul]

Lmao

[@Apfelsine78]

If you watch closely the replay in this video is from bgurin. I think dobby mixed the two of them up 😅

[@faultyswitch]

Word on the streets is Bgurin hasn't done his placements yet

[@eight8muzik]

He already did outrank

[@4thsin098]

Cgurin is waiting for his turn too

[@nousername7022]

Full clearing will be daily

[@humanyoutubeuser]

Thank you loldobby I will use this excuse in the future when my laners get no ganks from me. I am making it up by full clearing, thus creating a jungle gap

[@sinistressdreams7243]

You would be surprised by how many games I´ve won by simply ignoring bad lanes and let them be on fire. In the first 3-5 minutes you can get a good idea on which laners might be better or worse and then choose one of the better more promising ones. T1 and T2 Tower top are gone? Its fine, we have a bot or mid lane which is strong as I am since I wasted less time trying to rescue a bad laner and spent more time helping promising teammates. 10/10 can recommend (im only dia so take it with a grain of salt)

[@humanyoutubeuser]

@@sinistressdreams7243 this strategy depends entirely on whether your teammates have functioning brains and dont have anger issues

[@sinistressdreams7243]

@@humanyoutubeuser that's correct, which is why I said I'm only Dia and to take it with a grain of salt. I assume the higher you get the more methodical you have to approach the game while this is more of a practical approach

[@dennischen2922]

wow that Jarvan R at 11:04 onto the Xin Zhao to dodge the last Jhin R bullet was insane

[@sideswipedude]

Please do a video on Kaostanza, rank 1 Talon EUW. His play is completely opposite to Agurin and focuses on playing with tempo, rushing objectives, and invading enemy camps. He almost never full clears and usually only clears his own camps when there is nothing else to do. He uses Talon's mobility and clear speed to gain an exp, gold, and tempo lead to punish the enemy jungler. It's a very aggressive style that focuses on playing off powerspikes and invading/denying camps rather than full clearing. He consistently hits 1k+ LP for the past 3+ years. Talon could be considered a "half clear" jungler as he usually clears 1 quadrant before making a play rather than full clearing. He is currently playing on the account Finality#K405 on EUW.

[@meihuametanoia]

Watching dobby on release

[@LukeA471]

Same

[@vicooo4271]

as always

[@LoLDobby]

I hope only good things come your way

[@kietoan7373]

Same lol

[@brightlotus_meow]

Releasing while watching dobby

[@JohanVI6]

finally a jungle video from Dobby we eatin' good

[@Purafus_the_world_ender]

Another cool thing to notice: he always buys damage components first to speed up his clear, but it requires not making mistakes in early fight and knowing your limits, which he does really well

[@Und3AD_00]

I feel like the example used at 3:38 is not a great one of what happens when he ganks. It looks like a really piss poor gank at Agurin's fault just from what the video shows. Blue wave is less than 10 seconds from crashing into turret, Gnar just started his back, and J4 presumably isn't spotted until he leaves brush. He chooses to solo dive turret while aggro'd instead of waiting 5 seconds for the wave to crash and Jax to be there to help. He also has flash to get out of turret range but chooses not to use it. I think red team punishing him for this is less based on him ganking and more based on the fact that he played that poorly.

[@oceelysium]

The example still showcases the logic: if J4 waited more than a couple seconds for the wave to crash, the death timer would be the same as walking out of turret and completing base (8s+). In this instance, if J4 waited 1 extra second in the best case he would spend 9s to get back to base after ganking. Compare to 12s death timer which also gives you homeguard movespeed will lead to J4 reaching krugs after Zyra takes them either way. This highlights the importance of reaching your camps on spawn ESPECIALLY if you show on the map, which facilitates the enemy jungler to take your camp unimpeded. In another sense, this example also showcases the philosophy of playing for high percentage consistency because as you can see even the rank 1+2 jungler is making some obvious mistakes both macro and micro wise while executing the dive. From that, you may therefore argue that ganking is inferior to prioritising fullclearing on repeat due to the variable nature of executing said ganks.

[@Und3AD_00]

@@oceelysium OR given the scenario in which he executes the dive properly, note that Zyra is bot side while he is top. Given this information, he knows that Zyra’s krugs will spawn at approximately the same time as his if they both started on their reds. In this case, he executes the dive a couple seconds later, takes down the Gnar, takes maybe a couple of turret shots, then takes Zyra’s krugs while trading his own. In this case, he gets a takedown, takes the camp, and backs in time for his raptors to spawn. This is almost objectively a better scenario than dying, giving the gnar a near-even gold trade, losing his Krugs anyways, and being threatened by the Leona and Zyra invading his jungle with weak bot side prio. My point is, if you decide to make the dive in this scenario, you need to do so properly with no room for giving the enemy something to trade. Calling it worth based on the death timer while almost griefing your top lane is just poor play.

[@limsta69]

​@@oceelysium It's 'consistently' and "prioritiZing'. Sorry someone had to let you know.. we can tell you are just trying to sound smart😭 Unfortunately you have read this situation completely wrong. That gank was a sure kill and a pure mechanical mistake. And yes, a kill for the team (esp himself) > krugs. Getting the kill ups his tempo quite a bit, I believe he can buy a full cullfield instead of a pickaxe? + exp gains. Either way, the play was made by Agurin himself ffs... The reason this looks REALLY bad is the fact that he made a second 'mistake' in a row: assuming zyra and leona had left his jungle whereas they were waiting for him in red buff's bush. This was more of a good read by the enemy jg+sup, not necessarily a macro fuck-up by Agurin. In sum, it was a mechaincal error -> good enemy play. Has nothing to do with the 'ALWAYS full clear NO ganks' stragety and is indeed a bad example. It's straight up misinformation LOL Dobby's definition of Agurin's gameplay isn't precise.

[@kc3reo]

Prioritise is correct in british english, prioritize is just preferred in american english. They're both valid.

[@limsta69]

​@@kc3reo thanks, my mistake. i gotta check myself from now on To type an entire paragraph with so much fluff, to say 'zyra always gets to krugs first if he ganks'... some smartass behavior. ofc he's british LOL (jokes)

[@rafunzel3980]

fullclearing isnt the baseline of agurin, he plays aggressively if it makes sense. He has a list of 5-6 things that he constantly looks for that are higher prio than full clearing if they have a high success champs. Its just that higher elo players know how to avoid ganks so most ganks have a very low success rate of him getting anything for his time. So only if all of those 5-6 things are at a low success chance, agurin will keep full clearing to maximize his income.

[@mitzi3262]

He ganks if he the map says to but full clearing is his go to in most games.

[@peterbs5555]

not true, full clear is 9/10 baseline on his j4 and kha. but its true that full clear is better in high elo since people have good tracking. spam ganks works better in low elo.

[@sanji1259]

it´s one basic thought "do not waste time"

[@jackred422]

if you've watched any of his climbs from unranked to chall he still plays the same way in lower elos. will never 3 camp gank

[@siriwatsinkittiwut4061]

⁠@@peterbs5555 nah low elo spam ganks are bad bc our laner is too unpredictable.

[@luufia]

Finally an agurin video! But i have to let you know he has sadly been surpassed by Bgurin these days 😢

[@ChromeKnight26]

This video sums up this season's experience. Farming xp is so crucial. Ganking lane loses you farming xp. You need to path bot or else game is lost You need to full clear and take voidgrubs for level 6 spike it just feels very stale. Not what meta used to be. Bring back early rift herald. I think riot pushing for AP mage jg and making the clear speed 3:30 was bad for game.

[@ImOnlyHereForTheZipline]

I was waiting for this video, nice Dobby! Any thoughts about not getting sweeper and sticking with ward? He almost never gets sweeper on jarvan, he almost never does on any champ besides on elise.

[@Milchjaeger]

Hi he can do much more with a well placed ward than with a removed ward. Hope that makes sense? Also he buys pinkwards and placed them in important brushes

[@divakarangt3904]

Great guide thanks for this

[@KodukoLoL]

Yay the Agruin Video i wished for!

[@eddieriven]

Nice video bro thank you

[@vanphutan5702]

thanks dobby, once 1-2 camp gap are establish, I just flash ult enemy jungle onsite lmao.

[@Vince-rn1ot]

Call me crazy but after patch 14.22 I swear they nerfed J4, Q pen went from 29 to 26 and ult ratio went from 195 to 180. Nothing mentioned in the patch notes.

[@dassooo]

It would be interesting to also see some videos about supports

[@thikham6087]

Finally Agurin video

[@mooncake8320]

Moral of the video: in solo duo power farm like a carry in dota 2 and get to 6 items min 30.

[@1erRadiant]

Super interesting! I have a question: Why is Khartus a counter to J4?

[@iamlostintime3343]

Karthus clears on CD and basically never leaves his jng. Very hard to track, thus very hard to take action against him. Basically karthus loves to play with exhaust, reducing greatly MS of given enemy, and he can land a tons of single-target-Q thus doing ENORMOUS damage. And how Karthus ganks?... R. on top of that, in teamfights karthus has his passive that can and probably will deal great damage. btw karthus scales better than j4.

[@1erRadiant]

Ok, thank you!

[@templeofdelusion]

@@iamlostintime3343 If Karthus predictably clears on CD, it's trivial to track. If you're a good jungler, you know how long it takes for anything to respawn, it takes one ward (somewhere in general area of chickens usually at level 1) to find out if Karthus started top or bot side lol. By the way, jungler doesn't have to be the one to do it, it's a good ward for midlaner... If your team doesn't ward correctly, then you aren't in rank where it would matter anyway.

[@whereispoggers2411]

Damn never knew Jungle was this cutthroat, makes me want to be a jungler lol. Thanks for sharing Dobby.

[@ralphschraven339]

People have misinterpreted what Agurin does with full clears and why. I have seen players not gank a 30% HP flashless dashless toplaner for first blood and prioritize finishing the clear. I have seen players not move onto the neutrals despite having prio in the right lanes and having the proper item/level spikes. Agurin analyzes the game state and moves onto the map or in for a gank/countergank at all the right times. The full clear is extremely common because you don't have kill pressure on toplaners unless they flash in the 1v1. That moves the priority to gaining map control and experience+gold advantages with the Scuttle crabs to set up Grubs and Drake. But if you can get a kill or move for a high-value gank because you feel it is worth more than the camp efficiency, just go for it. Don't inhibit yourself because you think a high elo player wouldn't go for it, not realizing the full context.

[@sokono9782]

finish clear > run top ngl

[@GothamCrusader01]

ty dobby for granting degens like me with your wisdom

[@templeofdelusion]

So all I have to do is int my top laner (the lane that snowballs the most) then go back to jungle like nothing happened, got it.

[@harcusrenover]

Someone get a load of this guy 😂😂

[@rakazuan3158]

@@harcusrenover its okay top lane never matters

[@dinglshingle]

@@rakazuan3158 yeah, like 1/7 times toplane decides a game. and winning toplane isn't even that easy.

[@s0nycz3kk]

You want to tell me that Smolder at 10:25 ish was lvl 12 and had over 225 stacks already?

[@kamikaza12345]

well, i guess so lmao

[@richardsalzmann7946]

Smooooth operator 🗣

[@rk-li9ks]

Hi mechanics are actually also really good. But that probably goes for all challenger players. His Elise is also crazy good.

[@edgebrowser187]

3:39 not to be a dick but that's entirely agurin misplay on the gank ( tooks 2 tower shot and miss the combo) and he decided to face check the camp to reset the timer!? (where zyra had show presence of) tbh, this video isn't that "warp the korean jungle meta", it's about he being a good j4 with fund a mento

[@templeofdelusion]

Facechecking is safe as jarvan, the problem is he did it using his escape instead of spending 3 seconds walking. He also had flash up so it is whatever, but wouldn't have needed it if he kept his dash.

[@seisoch6969]

farming is important, who would have thought, now i have an excuse for when my team spams me the help ping

[@templeofdelusion]

Ping spam = instant mute. I am the jungler, I make the calls. Don't like it? Go queue jungle yourself.

[@ags8507]

7:58 shaco damage

[@joshuasalvaa3217]

😭😭😭

[@peterbs5555]

its insane how dogshit trash that champ is on ad and ap. in this state they should just disable him.

[@Flare-s9c]

This works in higher rank because people play it safe and ganking usually results in nothing gained. In low rank however its a fiesta and ganking definitely works better than farming.

[@claimant2912]

Isn't it even more important to farm in low elo? When your teammates are unreliable, you full clear and gank when available to ensure you can win fights

[@Flare-s9c]

@@claimant2912 lets say you have enemy top darius and your top is panth. You assume panth would play it safe. You full clear and the enemy diana does 3 camps and ganks top. You proceed to clear out her jg. Panth goes back to lane and diana, having nothing to do, ganks again and he dies again. At this point panth is level 3/4 and darius is already level 6. Does your pantheon stay under tower? hell no buddy hes going to fight while spamming "jg diff" You sadly have to give up your top jg now because diana is doing it knowing darius can kill you if you come to contest. You assumed you can dive bot lane or get both dragons however their bot lane is playing safe and the enemy fizz is coming to fight you while you solo drag and your mid is pushed to their tower. Your full clear + clearing enemy bot jg put you at level 5 while diana was at level 3 however what can you do while your top is also level 3 and enemy darius is roaming freely now? this is the scenario that happens almost every game in low rank bro. It doesnt have to be top, any champion with an engage skill will engage regardless of where enemy jg is.

[@dinglshingle]

@@claimant2912 by ganking you supress the enemy and get fed. thus, you can 1v4 later on. farming is too passive and your teammates drop like flies in low elo because no mechanics, misplace, stupid, you name it.

[@jk-ow4gh]

at 03:40 im pretty sure he would just tank the enemy wave, wait for their own wave to crash and then kill the gnar effortlessly XD

[@tehseensajjad1003]

Agurin will make up to his laner by clearing more 😂😂😂 This is truly the genshin in our impact

[@tom6875]

FOR THE KING!

[@FunnyNameKEKW]

Hi Dobbyyyyyyyyyy ☺☺☺

[@LoLDobby]

Hello :)

[@FunnyNameKEKW]

@@LoLDobby oooh dobby answers. I love your videos ❤️

[@furro7774]

That pyke on the start 😭 😭 😭

[@trandien8414]

Aribor would be proud

[@arkokroeger9799]

Didnt knew that j4 has so extreme dash ranges. Maybe i can try him out against super squishy death ball comps.

[@alex_ocean925]

Ashe is a meme "play safe" Meanwhile darius flash E from half of the screen 😅

[@hans12797]

Sponsored by eclipse: the bruiser dueling item which for some reason allows them to 1 v 5 and facetank a whole team while dishing out max health damage

[@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411]

eclipse is only good because stats and low cost, is not strong, is just decent

[@hans12797]

@@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411 its an unconditional buy and is too versatile, riot failed reducing it to a legendary itemf from mythic they shouldnt have kept either the damage proc or the shield. Imagine giving assasins a sheild source that they can proc multiple times in a teamfight lmao

[@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411]

@@hans12797 the ítem is fine, if a assasins build ir they Will prob go bruiser with shojin, and shojin got nerfed

[@timlevashov8771]

do you think this strategy is applicable to other junglers?

[@kurioman]

yes almost all of them. He's not ganking to maximise his income BECAUSE gank wont work because its top elo and people know how to prevent gank. If your not top elo, keep spamming ganks, it's overall better

[@superazian10]

Great no more ganks is the better strategy now.

[@templeofdelusion]

Ganking was always low IQ strategy. "Bro pls gank I can't play the game unless it's 2v1 reeee" players deserve a permaban. The only reason I'd gank a lane in ranked is if I'm Duo with someone who is factually better player than me.

[@mendokuse8888]

Good video

[@Humandefect]

The fact that the extra smart good players even accounts for level advantage over item advantage in their gameplay is mindblowing for me. I surely will never get good enough to reach that level where I can and want to account for that. On the other side of the spectrum, the streamers I watch play extremely badly. No strategy, no cautiousness just brain empty with extra misplays here and there. Comparing the two is like sky and earth. Hopefully the streamers that I watch could use their heads more in games but seems pretty hopeless

[@janninesanchez1091]

Hoping for opponent making mistakes as an advice can just apply to anything and everything.

[@templeofdelusion]

Especially for hardstuck plats who make more mistakes than their enemy then blame their own team.

[@midnightforseth]

i loved the flash from renekton

[@sirtrixx]

it's not level advantage that allows a Jarvan to zone a Maokai off his own camps, a lv3 Jarvan can beat a lv3 1v1 Maokai easily. A level 3 jarvan can probably beat a level 4 maokai too.

[@jacqs4386]

jg will always b flamed no matter wat so u gotta keep tempo

[@userr9991]

It always felt wrong to gank your laners just because they want you to or need help. Turns out most of the new junglers are just right about that instinct.

[@hansomekim1219]

It depends. Sometimes its worth it to fall behind in jungle to snowball a lane out of control

[@userr9991]

@@hansomekim1219 i only do this in low elo whenever i have a teammate darius, or any strong assassin. if you give them 2/0 lead it doesn't matter if u lose camps u just win the game. i see it working in high elo too sometimes. but assuming it's a skill matchup, my first comment stands

[@leathersosoft2798]

He looks at jungle like a lane

[@keroppicolins2433]

j4 is so stupidly strong. there are matches that i can barely do anything when he dives my adc.

[@ehahaeehahae6521]

how to full clear when red side

[@Daniluk41]

Agurin? That popular diamond player))))

[@joaolatado1153]

Usually I can't trap the enemy jungler and let my team finish him. Usually I get collapsed from mid and bot while their jungler is doing grubs.

[@anejr2556]

Same, I know how you feel, that's why I don't jungle not fun for me

[@LukeA471]

J4 has good scaling?

[@LoLDobby]

I think Jarvan has great scaling. Once he gets his items, he can lead team fights with amazing crowd control. If you get ahead in levels, you can even take on other junglers

[@MrJuliostito]

@@LoLDobby that's good snowballing then, in terms of scaling karthus is infinitely better, but I agree J4 is insane in soloq due to how easy it is to play him plus the state of the items he builds, in particular frozen heart and spirit visage are great items, and eclipse is amazing with his kit, giving him all the damage he needs

[@quieness]

No quite. Is not bad but is not great either. A lot of the "good scaling" he has is from the items, which have %. So Eclipse for example does %max hp damage, Sunderer heals you for % missing HP, and the resistances + the multi-dashes he has allows to stall for Eclipse+Sunderer's CD. His scaling comes from being able to be a big pest during TF with tankiness, mobility and ok dmg.

[@ridddlewrong]

@@MrJuliostito not only soloq. Jarvan 4 was also always picked in pro scene on regular basis. Thats one of the greatest and oldest champs in league of legends and was NEVER ever reworked or his skills changed for his entire being unlike released champs nowadays that needs to get reworks every couple of seasons. Thats how solid and profound this champ truly is.

[@TienPhuc-t2b]

FULL CLEAR PA MORE JOSH

[@XenagarD]

What fun seeing the j4 build that has gone unnerfed for nearly three patches

[@bezly8867]

wdym, both eclise and sunderer got nerfed this patch

[@mattphyx]

​@@bezly8867 yeah, but so did basically every other item in the game, Eclipse and Sundered overall got nerfed less compared to other options, and tank items are overall stronger, esp with damage getting nerfed across the board.

[@emranao]

6:26 succesfully wasted the flash. jgler moment fr

[@kurioman]

that flash gived him 450gold and ton of exp. they lvl 5 and around 30/40cs so it's probably min 5 or 6. Not flashing would be a huge waste of time and flashing in and steal a kill would give him the opportunity to create a lead. But yes, didnt needed darius would probably got both kills anyways.

[@bahikhalil6430]

bgurin video when

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

But those weirdos on Reddit told me some weirdo Top Bard was better than him or some shit 🤣🤣🤣

[@Kyrolysis]

But the 3:36 gank was horrible. I’ve never seen a J4 ignore the 2 wave crash and just eat 2 extra tower shots for free. What you’ve proven is that Agurin is terrible at ganks and meta shifted away from aggro

[@horizon1099]

Even if the gank was successful and he didn’t die he would still lose krugs guaranteed and it would still end up snowballing into zyra hitting 6 before he does

[@CesarGonzalez-pq8gz]

if he actually didnt try to auto him he was out, but i dont know why th efuck would he try to auto the gnar if he already missed the EQ. Hes rank 1 and 2 so i shouldnt talk tho

[@fivefourtwo4498]

Completely missed the point of the example, whoooosh

[@rammune7260]

Korean Singed bot is high on the ladder. Video when

[@LoLDobby]

Soon !

[@seligaprv8669]

No matter how good he is i will never stop hating agurin

[@fastcow7013]

Full clearing will be daily.

[@HiItsSalty]

wasn't this also the baby that just went afk because of the bard one trick?

[@JustAViewer44]

Jesus Christ he is so good...

[@Za_Phantom]

Full clearing will be daily

[@istrafed4088]

PZ Zzang achieved rank 1, 2, and 3, simultaneously all one-tricking Yasuo on the KR server. Equally as impressive!

[@Narlax]

what? when did that happened? and why is noone talking about it

[@braindeadbrick553]

not equally lane is 1000x more skillful than brainded jungle especially rn

[@highnoon2844]

When? If no one else, at least Pzzang would make a video about a feat like that on his yt

[@Aezixx]

dawg that never happened. He was probably rank 1 and 2 in KR on Yasuo only. he was never rank 1 2 and 3 in challenger xD

[@highnoon2844]

@@Aezixx yeah thats what I was thinking. Being rank 1 2 and 3 is insane. Everyone would know if he did that. Dude's just out here lying for fun

[@Sentinel-f]

if @LoLDobby knows everyones secret why is he not rank 1? (im not flaming btw)

[@cypo8455]

coach don't play.

[@templeofdelusion]

@@cypo8455 yet the opposite is true and players don't learn basics of the game, the concept of just farming minions instead of inting is completely foreign to everyone below challenger 1000 LP

[@rizelow4446]

he has negative lp gain this patch sadly

[@abbasnadiri3031]

6:24 i lost

[@voyagereternal11]

hardest role in the game

[@sanji1259]

i love how in the clips enemy jungle is like 0.5 or kaisa finish the play of j4 while she is 12.2.8!.....typical hype video but well...the theory still applies i get it but if that would be everything everybody would be challenger..try to handle the adc who is top lane becasue supp took 1 minion lol

[@templeofdelusion]

He is playing in high elo where people have a brain. You wouldn't survive a second in that game, stupid bronzie trash. Your elo is so bad you can farm for 20mins then 1v5 and get a penta because you have like 3 more items than your enemies despite them having 15 kills.

[@chohsena627]

Pickaxes + what? LOL. What's that symbol called? It is completely beyond me.

[@mattphyx]

It's an alpha, usually used to mark unknown variables, so I assume he just buys pickaxe + whatever he can afford, like pink wards, long swords or even clowning mote

[@leagueoflejhinds1630]

shoutout to Aribo

[@TwoToo_]

aren't all the pros in EU, wtf is he doing in korea

[@malik12314561]

In the end Neace was right when he coached junglers. (The overarching theme anyway)

[@templeofdelusion]

perryjg used to be pro and says same thing

[@Syntax991]

wouldnt recommed copying the playstyle in low elo, out of 10 games 5 times teammates fullthrowing

[@kurioman]

yes he's full clearing to maximise his income BECAUSE ganks wont work BECAUSE it's top elo. On low elo spamming ganks is still the best way to win. people dont take care of positioning and jungler tracking AND people are so easy to make mental boom. You litterally gank 3,4 time the same guy over 10min, 9/10 he will go int/afk/afk farm and give the game

[@templeofdelusion]

@@kurioman In low elo it's much easier to farm. High farm = early first item powerspike, just focus down most fed enemy (hint: it's the guy with most complete items that increase their damage, not kills, and not gold) and do the objective (if they even show up to dragon in low elo LOL). Bronzetards chase kills while letting enemy minions pound on towers on 2, sometimes 3 whole lanes lmao. The more your teammate dies, the more confident enemy is and the less gold your team is worth, just ignore them, because farming 2-3 items is done faster than your teammate can int 10 kills by himself and 10 kills aren't worth shit on same champion. Enemy will have high shutdown + still less items than you, use your brain. If your team ints, it's literally good for you in low elo. >inb4 bronzetard explains how 1000g paycheck is bad for him when that's like a half of item while you're already 1+ item ahead because you farmed unlike bronzetards who wouldn't know how to rightclick a minion even if game reminded them every 0.5s In low elo when I was just learning how to actually play this game, I even had instances of enemy jungler + mid invading me but losing a 1v2 because I was just farming while they were busy jerking off or whatever it is they do that caused then to give up a double kill to a PvE enjoyer.

[@Dante0397]

The top gank was totally his brain rot mentality, why would you not wait 1 second for the creeps to get hit first, literally died for no reason and then bot countered his jg and expected red cuz 100% know how he plays

[@sandromaspindzelashvili5767]

What are you talking about bronze? If he died or not it doesn't matter, he would have lost krugs and raptors anyway. Actually dying there was the fast and yet he still couldn't get there in time. He had to recall immediately after clearing, because he wouldn't have missed the camp exp and he would have got lv6 first. Yes he could have played the dive better but the dive wasn't even a good play

[@monkas5944]

Early on dying is faster than recalling

[@skunaed]

@@sandromaspindzelashvili5767 maybe take a look at the respawn timer downleft before you say this nonsense

[@Dante0397]

@sandromaspindzelashvili5767 my guy this ain't micro management or even close to the actual brain any other moba needs, it's simple, he would've gotten a kill, gold hence an item, not given the top a kill, advantage for top and kept stealing the other jg if he wanted, he could've Q into bush instead of in the open, whatever exp he lost he would've gotten in gold advantage and that gank, the game isn't purely levels, it's gold and objectives, it's just easier to get kills at level 6, he could've gotten a gank and a good 2 kills on bot either way if he actually didn't just rush for red in the open, former gm 2013 and actual ancient on dota, clown, the mental skill you need to play this is simplified into gold and kills which lead to objectives, whoever gets to snowball first usually wins, this includes being ahead of level, farm etc or start coordinating better than the other team for kill picks that or you have one of the kill a creep and get fed champions, legit the mental capacity I see into these "pro plays" is literally something you see in archon on Dota, it's just a glorified f2p e girl game with absolutely 0 skill, to summarize, watch sseth league video, 0:59 specifically, when you try dota and realize your tiny brain can't keep up with denying, pulling camps, micro managing your own creeps and courier while also considering all the facets, item actives and the fact that skills can actually affect your allies you'll realize this is brain rot, you should try playing invoker, very friendly first time hero, smiley face.

[@EX0R]

I mean agurin is the perfect example of EUW jungler just perma farm and crying about your lanes getting perma ganked by the opponent 😂

[@templeofdelusion]

I don't see him crying.

[@Hawk_VODS]

I dont think this is korean servers though 😂

[@eddieriven]

This is essentialy much NA tarzaned s6 playstyle no? Full clearing and gapping the enemy jungler on exp.

[@templeofdelusion]

This is essentially every high IQ jungler, so many smurfs jungle because it's literally as easy as simply farming, and jungler has free farm because the only way to get fucked by your "laner" is if they invade you and somehow don't get punished for it.

[@eddieriven]

​@@templeofdelusion I understand, yet I dont think this playstyle would be the best in low elo (no hate) from my point of view in low elo the best would be to permagank perma invade enemy jungler XD, and farm kills. Atleast for 5-10 mins straight then just keep farming your own jungle, and playing normally :p

[@templeofdelusion]

@@eddieriven there's a reason why you're low elo.

[@eddieriven]

@@templeofdelusion I’m not tho 😂 all I said is that low elo strategies work better in low elo, than these strategies

[@templeofdelusion]

@@eddieriven There's no such thing as low elo strategies, if low elo had any strategy at all then it wouldn't be low elo.

[@tryars]

알고리즘이 왜 미국맛 도비를

[@LoLDobby]

오오?

[@carterhu6550]

nice I just watched a lvl4 full clear, what a god what a play…rare Dobby L

[@GodLovesUsAll3]

Only One God ✝️❤🤗 The Father, the Son Jesus-Christ and the Holy Spirit Love yall

[@dyslexicape4249]

I play similarly (obviously not close to as good) to him but people just tilt so quickly and beg me for a gank and end up blaming me for their loss even if I have 6 grubs and soul or whatever and huge advantage on enemy jungler. And I just end up with one or two useless raging inters. Also supports and mids 90% of the time don’t help with vision or fights whatsoever. Edit: I’m diamond master elo not bronze

[@adam0_519]

Well you need to play better

[@citizencj3389]

Agreed lol.

[@rafunzel3980]

the difference is that agurin looks for 5-6 things before full clearing, you dont. Agurin full clears bcs he plays in extremely high elo where the enemys make only very tiny mistakes so theres not a lot to capitalize from. Full clearing isnt his priority but its 100% consistent and a gank would need a 75%-80% success chance for agurin to take it. If Agurin was in ur elo he wouldnt be full clearing bcs there are so many opportunitys to get ahead from

[@vroomzoom4206]

No you don't. You think you do but you are so far from what he is doing it's not even funny.

[@dyslexicape4249]

@@rafunzel3980 definetly a good point in the mistakes thing everybody makes a lot more mistakes. But I’m in diamond master not like silver lol so this isn’t quite accurate

[@gabriel.h.j.]

Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland.

[@ItDoesNotEvenMatter]

Not this guy again

[@SkitZHitZ]

I will argue something here This strategy about ganks lose i feel like ganks will win more games then power farming in anything lower then diamond Reason being team mates tilt if you afk farm Enemy jungler gets a lead through lanes miss players Players are overly more aggresive as the elos go lower, they dont respect win cons, nor power spikes They flame and give up because their already low elo so they dont really care too much This is based on the average ranks in lower elos

[@amaterasu3325]

Yeah but that's not the point of his strategy. He's using the fact the enemy jungler is falling behind and punishing it, now they can't really go for plays on your timers, you can make a play on your terms without sacrificing farm. Let's say bot dies to a gank, both of them, but you can gank them on level 6 from fullclearing while vi is 5. You can force this play bot, and if vi contests it then you win the play due to level lead. Ganking is self sacrifice unless there is nothing else on the map to do or a dive is possible without dying, if you gank once off timer and the enemy jungler is competent, then you can't really do anything without that lane helping you. You will lose every duel on a level deficit, you will lose objectives because slower smite upgrade, you will get outganked because they unlock more ganking tools and can win 3v3 or 2v2 fights with level lead. If you get flamed then it's very likely you haven't used your lead to actually fix your lanes. Going even or slightly ahead in farm while your laner rots is not gonna win you the game, using your lead aggressively when the enemy makes a sacrificial play is.

[@omaa11]

nice video except for the shtty music

[@janhob7250]

Die Deutschen wieder.

[@umitatsuya2492]

But... but... my main character syndrome bot laners want me to turret dive a leona draven, at lvl 2 and if I dont they will spam ping me and blame the game on me ;;;;((((

[@yuvarlananucak7131]

I hate the fact no brain farming is better than succesfully ganking a lane in current meta

[@mitzi3262]

It's mostly just an xp issue the jungler with more assists/kills will have more gold and items but still will be 1 level lower than the person who full cleared. I think they could just have ganking give more xp and that's that. There's a nice risk/reward to it. Also I don't think full clearing is braindead, you still need to gank when the opportunity is there or when your camps are down.

[@peterbs5555]

"no brain" farming? lmao try to spam ganks in challenger and see why its best there. the reason the farming works so well in high elo is because people know how to track the jungler so getting a gank to work is much harder.

[@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411]

there is no brain farming, riot just giga nerfed jg at that point that there is no point of ganking unless enemy team are trolling XD

[@LexflipRO]

pure bs, I cant even full clear without ally dying twice, this top elo people are lucky af, I enjoy how streamers of high elo lose their shit while passing plat to master elo

[@MysticBlueFox]

I understand your point about deaths in games, but it's not luck that drives the success for higher ranks. The players have a better grasp on the game so there are less mistakes made for deaths.

[@yoyoyo-r3m]

by the time i finish 1 full clear bot is 0-4 somehow lol

[@templeofdelusion]

You walking into a lane with your teammate dead would do more damage (literally) than if you just farmed.

[@Cisko1417]

i think agurin is romanian guy

[@kiliangreen1216]

german

[@Cisko1417]

@@kiliangreen1216 a ok

[@rqwerfdfvaer7442]

Why is Agurin scared of participating in champion queue🤯

[@OGSpentcer]

Because he wouldn't get good games on it, he's explained it himself before.

[@RepozeOW]

He wouldnt get any good games bc pros take priority

[@rqwerfdfvaer7442]

He is just not as good so he would look bad in front of his viewers

[@simuntigmo6220]

@@rqwerfdfvaer7442 XDDD and u are so good? please show us mr silver

[@RepozeOW]

​@@rqwerfdfvaer7442 Well I mean obviously hes not a pro player but hes already proved he can hold his own against pros

[@koolaidmini]

you say he takes Q first, he takes E first in video..