Forza 7 - F1 Car vs The World: Is it Unbeatable on the 1 Mile?

Hello everyone and welcome back :). Today we will be testing out the Formula One car of 2017, which is the 2017 Renault R.S.17. The hybrid F1 car that produces 1100 horsepower, it will be the benchmark of this video because we will bring the fastest hypercars that Forza 7 offers to line up and attempt to beat it on the 1 Mile, so who can beat it? Lets find out!
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Jalen Galloway, WSX, Jonathan Perche, Supertyler, Marshall, PULS4R.

[@MO-nr8vv]

15:47 family always win

[@MO-nr8vv]

I can hear the bandoleros

[@keo9365]

And it won in the most fast and furious way possible… dramatic af, the very last bit 😂

[@jethroalsonxier3117]

That F1 Car Maybe Fast, But Not As Fast As Family B-)

[@kelvinyap9248]

nosss

[@kayanmantovanello4442]

AUN QUE DIGAN QUE SOY...

[@Starfire_Storm]

The Hoonicorn was literally the only one that never lost the lead, even if it got quite close at some point

[@saleh-dt3qj]

But irl it would've been trashed no car can overtake an F1 car in a mile

[@No-le9qf]

@@saleh-dt3qj most hypercars can probably do it

[@speller520]

@@No-le9qf They wouldn’t be able to no HyperCar is as light or as fast as a F1

[@youdontcare2312]

@@saleh-dt3qj a top fuel can

[@Rinue618]

but with 1400hps and awd if I didn't have these results something would be wrong

[@froreyfire]

The fun fact about this video is that top speed/acceleration isn't even the F1 car's main strength. What makes it unbeatable around a racetrack is its huge downforce, which even slows it down in this test.

[@nev963]

Yeah with that downforce being fast on the corners.. they have turbocharged v6 so that makes a difference too even tho having biger bore and shorter strokes..

[@dbabu51]

Imagine with no downforce, in v10 car BAR hit 400 kmh 250 mph and if v6 car had no downforce it would be really fpreally fast

[@israeljoao5532]

@@dbabu51 What I don't like about this game is that, the real speed of this car is 360kph, but it doesn't even come to that in this game, considering that it's a game so we could explore more final speed in this game.car but we couldn't. in real life its speed is relative, because in a vacuum and with the DRS open they go up to above 370kph if there is a very long straight

[@Poison_narcotic2]

Well thanks captain obvious

[@danilojuanitoromulo6886]

So the F1 had it's DRS disabled all this time

[@advaitsarang4943]

Glad to see Nico Hülkenberg on podium so many times

[@batot3617]

Yup XD

[@YFZ52]

Even in a straight line I was getting PTSD from German GP 2019.

[@mlbbreplays2077]

Nico should go back to f1 and get his 1st podium

[@idrissghairi2359]

@@mlbbreplays2077 well good to see him again even as a reserve driver

[@inkbybtattoos6180]

Someone needs to send this to the hoonigans. We need to see a “this vs that” with an f1 car

[@athasiregarr]

im afraid its not possible now, about 5 months ago ford and ken block parted ways :(

[@malik3991]

@@athasiregarr what does Ken parting from Ford have to do with hoonigan, he’s still apart of hoonigan

[@athasiregarr]

@@malik3991 well, the hoonicorn is back with ford now, it was like a collaboration between ford and hoonigan so when ken and ford parted ways, ford took hoonicorn back. i read that on google

[@4.1.8]

a collab with carwow???? maybe they can bring the hoonicorn to the UK

[@sv.motorsports]

that mustang doesnt do 380kmh.. so it would lose lol

[@zemflo]

Was a lot of fun to help you make this video, really enjoyed this video a lot bro :)

[@AhmadGalalYT]

We definitely enjoyed the 5 draws of hell XD. But thank you so much bro

[@1law_josh]

Gg

[@PREMEDGALAXY238]

@@AhmadGalalYT yo

[@leonsilcott9351]

That was incredibly awesome🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇🎇

[@PREMEDGALAXY238]

@@AhmadGalalYT do the koenigsegg one:1 vs 1600hp Toyota supra in forza horizon 4 for the next video

[@птица-ъ6м]

(Rounding the corner) F1: "Nothing happened " The World: "Become a wonderful crash"

[@fernandobazote]

Antonio Pizzonia and Jaguar did not appreciate that.

[@Darkhawk_]

Lol

[@terrancestaples3332]

When it got to the Koenigsegg one:1, things got interesting from there on out for me.👌😎

[@odessacueto1805]

Koenigsegg is fastest i think

[@Danny-rt5gy]

Well koenigsegg accelerate faster at 0-300 instead of bugatti

[@nabamtagio9848]

Keonisegg one to one reach 300kmh in 13.6 second where F1 car reach 9.6 second to reach 300kmh now tell me who are fastest

[@Smzxe]

@@nabamtagio9848 your mom Koenissegg one:1 reaches 0-300 in 11.9 seconds vbox varified Yeah the F1 cars hit 0-300 in less than 9 seconds and motogp bikes are bit faster than f1 Chiron takes 14 on vbox seconds or 13.8 on speedo seconds so slow

[@augustooliveira5588]

@TerminatedGuy The F1 cars that came after that are faster. Also, all this 0-something comparisons are dumb since F1 cars would obliterate the competition when a corner show up

[@goshbaby8531]

The music gave me nostalgia, ahh forza 6 soundracks r good

[@whippy8950]

It brings back so many memories

[@STRH_Official]

Thanks for letting me be in part of the race

[@user-sg8eh4qj4c]

The engines sound has so much to improve in games yet.

[@yousef.al-assaf]

It depends on many things. 1) Recording devices quality. 2) Losing data through transmission. 3) Sound output device and its capabilities. 4) The software that the is used to translate the data to sound Etc...

[@panderball]

This game is not the best in terms of vehicle sounds, there are others that are better, in my experience, the Gran Turismo Sport is more loyal to the real life sound of the cars

[@alexanderswander8176]

Hopefully in the years to come things will inevitably get better like a domino effect. Just think what people thought was fantastic 20-30 years ago is obsolete today or obviously nowhere near as advanced as todays technology. Imagine what we'll see in another 20-30 years.

[@realestofall7415]

@@alexanderswander8176 Mars racing

[@CrossWindsPat]

Time to build a PC and play Assetto Corsa boys.

[@tadman3d]

Damn these forza thumbnails always make me think its real

[@pascalzaato5408]

F1 car: I always come first Dom: “No family always come first “

[@makeshift567]

I being a koenigsegg fan boy... Love how they performed. If maybe on the future ones you could show the results from fastest to slowest....that would nice. Great gameplay and visuals👏👏

[@vulcanozrx4418]

Had an amazing time helping out bro. Video is outstanding

[@jamallakhbaze7036]

Nico Hulkemberg (27) vs supercars

[@forizoni399]

13:55 this proves that power to weight ratio is actually really important

[@anganakalsarepalihapitiyag6305]

U do know that f1 cars have a better power to weight ration than the one:1? Also, f1 car is made to go around a corner faster than any other vehicle in the world so this straightline test is a bit unfair

[@onyjdm]

F1 cars have a lot better power to weight ratio, these cars just have higher top speeds, than F1 cars.

[@dln.sweeney]

The aerodynamic drag and gearing are what limit the F1 car here.

[@flacohernandez4380]

F1 cars are built for cornering and will obliterate any vehicle on a track. Straight line not so much.

[@andrewpitt621]

The one to one isn't one to one once there's a driver. It's just marketing. Still fast though

[@AGKaiju]

So... in short: You need a car that has over 1100 HP, and a Power to Weight ratio of 1:1 or greater to beat the Renault RS17.

[@BnaBreaker]

In a straight line... if there were any turns at all the F1 car would've smoked them all.

[@AGKaiju]

@@BnaBreaker Ah, yes. I forgot that part.

[@raygoza91c]

@@BnaBreaker yes because thats basically what the renault has

[@jichaelmorgan3796]

Well the Merc W11 should be able to hit 1100 HP with proper engine mapping, let's try that one!

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@BnaBreaker no fucking shit and boom a normal road came and now u can't drive the illegal track car anymore

[@The_T-800]

Sheesh the roadrunner and f1 had a close race! Nice!

[@tommitcx5463]

The Road Runner had FAMILY POWER by his side

[@Agent_Stark14]

I’d like to see the hoonicorn race in real life to validate that. That’s crazy 🤣🔥

[@munkhjinbatjargal5846]

The Hoonigan already made a series on that

[@jonathanlindgren409]

this vs that hoonicorn, search it up

[@smittman]

@@jonathanlindgren409 It's a waste of time. They race cars no where near competitive with the Hoonicorn

[@TezlaByte]

@@smittman The RS3?

[@allannelson10]

@@smittman Dude you’re stupid, that’s the whole point of the show. To make comparison of race/drag/drift cars. That’s why it’s called “This Vs That”

[@feeltv195]

One:1 wins by .001😳

[@aaronrodriguez1410]

@@sharksquad8689 sussy baka

[@randomsimkididk]

I still think that f1 engineering is really impressive because of how much power they can fit in an engine with barely any displacement and having that much downforce to still beat most of them in a straight line for 1 mile

[@gianinschenk897]

And F1 cars are built for cornering not for 1 mile tracks. F1 would destroy every other car if there would be only a tiny chicane at the end

[@randomsimkididk]

@@gianinschenk897 f1 cars still weigh like almost 300 kg lighter than this years lmp1’s so a straight line competition is gonna depend on a lot of things

[@MrOiram46]

F1 in the 80s was really wild; a dinky 1.5 liter, 4-cylinder engine with some turbo and rocket fuel made 1500HP

[@imranaidil1818]

and fuel economy in f1 is mind blowing.

[@KevW03]

The minute any of those cars hit a corner... the F1 car is gone in the wind.

[@tyler1988]

An application specific race car, with millions upon millions in R&D alone and 70+ years to test and master the design with which to go fastest around a track...vs hyper cars that were designed and manufactured for street legal consumer use in a few years. Imagine that lol.

[@KevW03]

@@tyler1988 i think you'll find that millions upon millions is spend on R&D for the road cars too... probably even moreso as they are a "mass" produced luxury commercial product. (Not the same scale of mass production as a toyota prius though) My point being that top speed is secondary to handling and acceleration.

[@satirthsarthak6887]

Congratulations to Koenigsegg One:1, Ultima Revolution 1020, F&F Plymouth GTX (2000HP) and most Honourable mention to Ford Hoonicorn

[@DoNuT_1985]

Would have been great to get at least one run from F1 perspective to see what actually happened... from a standing start up to 300 kph, it's mostly about power-to-weight ratio and getting the power down, then it's just a race for top speed and aerodynamics when the F1 car hits a wall after half of the track and some of the hypercars can go 50 kph faster for the last bit of the race.

[@justyourtypicalgamer3488]

Without watching I knew the Plymouth and hoonicorn trouble.

[@superpro4744]

The last one it's a real monster 💀🔥

[@andreastecig4462]

F1 vs 1000+hp dodge demon F1 vs 1000+hp toyota supra F1 vs 1000+hp nissan gtr r34 or r35

[@andreastecig4462]

@@Ib4_MV331 i did not know

[@minecraftveteran7410]

@@Ib4_MV331 There is a Lotus F1 car from 2015 and a Ferrari F1 car from 1992-4 wdym.

[@radjadilasaputra196]

Hii Ahmad, can you try.. One Miles Drag like this video F1, Indy Car, GTE Car, LMP1 Car etc :')

[@melvinpearse5630]

F1:I’m winning GT4 Plymouth: too soon junior

[@VollstandigErleuchtung]

Until we take a turn.... Sorry I'm salty😭

[@Snas_Undertall]

@@VollstandigErleuchtung yea, be salty

[@zadsazhad]

@@VollstandigErleuchtung well they are made for it

[@lightshunshine3861]

@@Snas_Undertall Even F1 cars are made to kill all the corner but they still a beast on the stright lane

[@Snas_Undertall]

@@lightshunshine3861 apparently not as much of a beast as the Plymouth

[@WSX-]

Thanks for shoutouting me in the description when I wasn't even there XDDDDDDDDD

[@ramgowda2102]

The hoonicorn not only beat it, it left the f1 trailing behind like the f1 did to most of the other hypercars.

[@nolanneese1381]

That hoonicorn was crazy quick

[@beeblinthebean15]

Fr

[@HS9700iscool]

ikr

[@Reacher2790]

every one here about CARS I am here for appreciate Cameraman.... awesome work man

[@claudioparedesz5381]

15:48 : "For Family"

[@orestkendzora8661]

“Today on top gear, a formula is one car goes up against fast cars, Richard drives the new mustang, James drives the new fiat panda, and I take a look at the new aston”

[@user-tt3xu2hf5b]

This goes to prove that family always wins. Why? Because family!

[@ajcoopa]

Would have liked to have seen the F1 car geared for the mile, instead of having it buzz the limiter at 3/4 length.

[@Artas1984]

FACT from 2014 ''auto express'' show: the 2012 Mercedes F1 car covered 1800 meters in 20.2 s at 194 mp/h (312 kp/h) with rain tires. There is a video in youtube. One mile is 1600 meters, and since 312 kp/h is 87 meters/second, the F1 would finish the 1 mile course in an estimated 18.0 or lower.

[@derbyjr]

Forza 6 music in beginning, I like. To date, probably the second best Motorsport game Forza has made

[@Botdog614]

I love these videos Ahmad!! I hope you become successful…

[@ed1tz468]

14:00 you won by .001 of a second

[@yikangyap5253]

This video just shows how much of a dominator the f1 car is against supercars, and it managed to do all of that in a turbocharged v6, with too much downforce for a drag race

[@miloske5957]

Don't forget that it is a 1.6L V6 Ofc that there is ERS, DRS but still

[@F1pidis]

Well this game is actually very realistic. F1 cars do fair badly in drag races cause they have to put down all that power on just the rear wheels. They are the fastest thing on the planet around a track though, and this thing was a measly old Renault to boot!

[@Kodaiva]

@peter pan I’m pretty sure that’s what they meant

[@F1pidis]

@peter pan Since we are in a conversation about ignorance, you just said it yourself. Drag becomes a problem at very high speeds, depending on the drag coefficient of every car it's usually above 250-300 kph. In other words in a usuall quarter mile race, the drag on an F1 car wouldn't even matter. Or don't you know that engineers can reduce or increase the amount of downforce an F1 car produces? Even with minimal wing the F1 car would still not be the best at 0- 120 kph, after that it would catch up a bit, but it would be over in a quarter mile race by then. Go check the video on Driver69 that goes into detail on this or carwow. Anything that has similar power to weight ratio as an F1 car but also has ways of delivering that on the tarmac on launch, either through bigger tyres, 4-wheel drive, clever launch controls etc will destroy an F1 car in a drag race.

[@SKELFER911]

"Well this game is actually very realistic" - Absolutely not ! Only few runs: Koenigsegg One:1 in game 0-300 like 9-9,5sec vs. real life record run 11,9sec Venom GT in game 0-300 like 9,5-10sec vs. real life run 13,2sec Hoonigan Ford 0-200 in game around 3,5s vs. for compare 3,8s with 2200HP !!! Huracan Alpha Omega (drag radials + drag strip) F1 even back in 2017 goes 0-200 in around 4,5s (Bottas 4,6s at Austrian GP) and topped at 350-360km/h EASY ! (this Renault 350+ at Monza, Vettel @ 362kmh Mexican GP). Can archive both in same car cos F1 teams cant change gear ratios in season, only final drive ratio... 2017 F1 car with low downforce setup and right gearing at 1 mile = no chance for hypercars. PS: "F1 cars do fair badly in drag races" - modern F1 can hit 0-200kmh in 4,2s !!! (Ricciardo, Tuscan GP) and even 10 years old Red Bull RB7 at airport with hard white tires do 1/4 mile in 9,2s (Carwow) - thats "badly" in your option ?

[@aZakthatAttacks]

GT was creepin' and would of won if they were racing on a longer runway but seeing that Drifter stomp that F1 fills my heart with Joy. V8 POWAH!

[@thatdudeKarim]

The Hoonicorn is one of the most impressive machines ever made. Lol... love it.

[@Raphael16045]

14:57 are the exhausts on the venom supposed to do that?

[@E_Us_D_Vidah]

American project, what you expect?

[@ShwappaJ]

That Ford Hoonicorn is a good challenge for my maxed-out Nissan Silvia K from Forza 4. It too can clear a mile in less than 20 seconds.

[@jackdaniel777]

That hoonicorn always amazed me

[@andresvalbuena5266]

Put them in a track, in Spa Francorchamps ;)

[@zadsazhad]

Spa might be interesting or even USA

[@sneakysnake7695]

Wont even be close

[@japaa8454]

it's not lime or lemon this channel deserves a million

[@edgarsantiago_3908]

Only if there was a way to allow the F1 car to open DRS, awesome races though 🔥

[@pat-o-lard]

You got constant DRS in that game, you can see the wing is up

[@jaredlines3177]

I love that you used FM6 music. Such an underrated sound track IMO

[@marcosreyes426]

So the trick to beat the F1 is having a 1:1 power to weight ratio

[@ShanleH]

The F1 car was in the 19’s at one point so none of these cars were actually as fast as it just saying 😂

[@Jesse_vids]

The hoonicorn with the bip boops. Lol

[@ariapipe32]

Not the content I thought I needed to see but loved it

[@es-ed5ug]

F1 car - you must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance

[@yes.9250]

The short shifting is crazy in this one.

[@chimata21]

OMG the Koenigsegg one:1 is breathtaking!!!

[@Fordy5Colt]

Fm6 theme is legendary 🙌

[@flyingturtle8868]

the formula 1 car destroyed almost every single other car. That's what I like to see

[@FireeStarsMS]

Yes, but on a real racing circuit, no car has anything to do with an F1 car

[@flyingturtle8868]

@@FireeStarsMS ik

[@AG-te9xp]

That Hoonicorn tho 😂🤣

[@Warthirium]

I'm actually surprised about the One:1. I knew it would come down the GTX and Hoonicorn. I'm happy the Hoonicorn kept up. How much of it difference would if you power shifted (Manual + clutch) right on the 9K rpm mark?

[@TROllingNINJA2031]

I wish they would have top fuel cars in these games just for shit's and giggles Like if you have 10,000 horsepower at your disposal you're gonna be scootin down that strip but no you get a cargo van instead

[@Lada-cq2lr]

I agree but how you gonna control them in a real track?

[@28_satryohafidzfathanmufli53]

@@Lada-cq2lr bro it's just for fun and giggles lol

[@Lada-cq2lr]

@@28_satryohafidzfathanmufli53 I knew that

[@bluevayero7269]

Would be interesting to see how it would do, taking into account that the fuel would run out more or less a third of the way in.

[@biggles9604]

great vid shifting on the hennessey venom did make me eat my hat tho

[@Lada-cq2lr]

I didn't except that Mustang Hoonicorn always taking the lead(also it's first gear is as long as the Top speed of my 650cc scooter XD), that thing is insane, but I forgot how much HP and how much it weights ;/ Edit: I didn't read it had 1400 HP and weights 1360 kilos

[@gavinuy5346]

The Regera was Af catching up, if only it had normal gears

[@seandc2915]

Dom is proud to himself.

[@zephyrgalloway7841]

why buy billion dollar supercars when u buy a hoonicorn

[@Standgedicht]

Cause of beauty, lifestyle and legend. A LaFerrari Aperta or an SF90 are beautiful and have an aesthetic that this Hoonicorn cannot even dream of. To me this Hoonicorn is just a prolet toy.

[@nuwandhananjaya1029]

Miss you ken and your beast hoonicorn

[@poxape9981]

All fun and games until turn appears on track

[@Celatra]

13:57 the Koenigsegg only beat the F1 car because it had a terrible launch. most times for the f1 car have been around the upper 19 seconds, lower 20 secs, but in some ones it had a bad launch, causing its time to even reach as high as low 21 secs. even with that, it only beat the F1 car with 1000th of a second. had the launch been perfect, there still would have been atleast 0.3 seconds gap

[@thawneelixir3931]

Ya'll this guy should've done a roll race, that Koenigsegg Regera would've shown that F1 who's king. But at least he got broken by the Koenigsegg one

[@AhmadGalalYT]

I have done a 5-way drag race that featured the Regera and the F1 and a rolling race has been done in it like 2 years ago.

[@Sitchy77]

It's crazy how slow they make this car in GTA lmfaoaoaoao especially the one that got 19 seconds

[@rgrt3204]

The speed of cars is toned down to compensate for the size of the map

[@MrBeanBHM]

music of main menu forza motorsport 6, I love it❤️❤️

[@DMcElfresh101]

Nice video! Are these all with stock tuning/ adjustments?- If not, I’m pretty sure I could adjust the transmission & final drive gear ratios on almost all these cars to gain .5 - 1.5 seconds, but then again I do spend a lot of time doing this for every car, and to some they just want to drive while not worrying about it, which I can understand too.

[@tacticalpotato2959]

Lesss goo another vid

[@exox3850]

Ken block's hoonicorn OP

[@immortalson302]

What The Hell Do They Feed Those Formula 1s DANM 😂

[@m2nesli]

the thing i find sad is that a F1 is not a machine gear to top speed .. but grip in corner .. so puting it against top speed monster and still win most of it .. what a machine.

[@CAIO-117]

Now I wonder, how fast a 10-second car must be...

[@thermalkermit5864]

I think the cars that equal 1:1 or less than that power to weight ratio can probably beat an f1

[@joaobaptista7358]

Imagine if it was a Merc over there😭

[@LamboDEB1]

Omg that song!! So many memories

[@omid2391]

R.I.P. Hoonicorn. Lost but never forgotten

[@haydenburgess3603]

I love the old school forza music

[@minecraftveteran7410]

Hall of Fame (FM7: Updated) Top Speed: 1. Bugatti Veyron F&F - 435 km/h (270 mph) 1. Nissan GTR-R34 (Maxed out) - 435 km/h 3. Lotus Esprit V12 - 434 - 435 km/h (269.5 - 270 mph) 4. Ferrari 812 Superfast (Maxed out) - 434 km/h 5. Plymouth GTX F&F - 433 - 434 km/h - (268.5 - 269 mph) 6. Ford Hoonicorn Mustang V2 (Extended FD) - 433 km/h 7. Porsche 962C (Tuned) - 432 km/h (268 mph) 8. Koenigsegg Agera R - 431 km/h (267.5 mph) 9. Bugatti Chiron - 428 km/h (266.5 mph) 10. Saleen S7 (Tuned) - 427 - 428 km/h (266 - 266.5 mph) Pure Acceleration 0 - 300 km/h (0 - 186 mph) 1. Ford GT40 '66 (Drag Tune) - 9.761 seconds 2. Ford Hoonicorn Mustang V2 - 10.061 seconds 3. Nissan GTR-R34 (Maxed out) - 10.228 seconds 4. Renault RS.17 (2017 Renault F1 car) - ~10.5 seconds 4. Porsche 962C (Tuned) - ~10.5 seconds 4. Ferrari 812 Superfast (Maxed out) - ~10.5 seconds - If I got wrong here. I will try to correct as much as possible.

[@theragal31]

I loved the FM6 song

[@mudgie3445]

I think even Ken Block would absolutely love to drive this version of the Hoonicorn! It's so outrageous. 🤣

[@herrscherofteri9485]

Now do it in a full race track 😉😂

[@jakal3429]

Now we know a chiron beats a 2010 red bull in a full mile

[@Ufa2369]

F1: My Acceration is the best Hoonicorn: are you sure? 💀

[@ryanjagpal123]

That F1 car must be going 0-60 in like 1.8 seconds

[@menzi54]

16:07 what your here for, also ford mustang hoonigan has so much power/torque it literally beats the acceleration of the f1 car lol

[@XNK--C]

Thanks, mate 🤜🤛

[@menzi54]

@@XNK--C why??

[@XNK--C]

@@menzi54 for the timestamp... I was lookin for hooningan vs f1 & R1 v f1 only 🤭

[@menzi54]

@@XNK--C Oh ok

[@darishakharsati4300]

The 2016 Keonisegg reggera might actually beat the F1 but it was late bcuz of slow timing wings

[@ngentitit]

In real life, the actual RB7, lost to a Chiron because of how much downforce it has: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o324hXVridyAatE

[@aidencovell7326]

But it had the lead for quite a bit

[@Leostunzz]

That Hoonicorn is no joke lol

[@TJ-dg9fr]

Mercedes AMG 2018 season : Okey , my turn

[@fransiskop]

And what about cornering?