Ahsoka Episode 7 - PENULTIMATE EPISODE - Angry Review

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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review Episode 7 of Ahsoka that sets up the conclusion next week to the next phase of Star Wars, does this episode do enough to satisfy? How do we think it will end? Find out!
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[@adronikos7822]

It kinda bothered me they didn’t bring up the x wing pilots who died.

[@quigglyz]

I am also bothered by the horrendous writing.

[@alexanderreich749]

...or the missing hyperdrives, the missing prisoner and the literal gigantic hyperspace ring that just flew to another galaxy for all the pilots to see. But hey, Hera still defends herself with "trust me bro, I know Thrawn will return" instead of showing evidence...

[@Jarke]

That was insane to me lol did everyone forget about how they all died when Baylan and them jumped to the new galaxy

[@curian1286]

Red Shirt 4 and 5

[@bonjy3701]

WAAAAADE

[@leeeyles1864]

I would have thought those stormtroopers were badasses and we would finally get a competent force...that didn't happen.

[@chalmers1984]

Even thrawn doesn't feel dangerous and deadly like in the zahn trilogy

[@firstlast9846]

I really thought they’d be different - surely a PRIVATE army for a strategic mastermind would want only the best.

[@danyknight9107]

If you want competent stormtroopers you are not gonna get it here. Instead go for Andor.

[@cosmickeyboard9811]

Zombies would be even more weaker, Ian expect a thing, I was wondering if they'd rise after they fell but that's it

[@HolyknightVader999]

They actually scored a few hits on Sabine. Too bad she was wearing beksar, or she'd be dead or injured.

[@alexmason8557]

We all know Alex's absolutely hating the whole show.

[@YouTubeChannel-iq5to]

And right he is. It’s a 6.4/10 one

[@Ralathar44]

Man, just watching OJ and Alex's complete disinterest while Joe talked and tried to praise it was painful to watch.

[@nukenade4623]

its because neither of them are actual star wars fans. they are literally only watching because joe likes it. neither of them have watched rebels or clone wars and nor do they really care for anything star wars. only joe does. he should do these reviews solo. would be much better @@Ralathar44

[@josephwatson6656]

Ikr lmao

[@alexmason8557]

@@KZbinChannel-iq5to I'm talking the whole show

[@Revonlieke]

Sabine's character suffers from weird teenager syndrome when she's not even a teenager. She's portraid in the first episode as this rebel and secluded character (as if she's cool or something) and it just didn't fit her age at all. If she was like that in Rebels fine, but she was also younger in Rebels. Here she's quite a bit older, an adult and she acts like she has no responsibilities at all. Cutting her hair didn't mean shit, and she's not even decided if she wants to be a jedi or a mandalorian at all. She said that Ahsoka took her as an apprentice, but she didn't say she chose that path for herself at all. It's just such a badly written character, it reminds me a bit of Raffi from Star Trek. Just a character you wish wasn't present in any episodes and the episodes would be better for it.

[@ebanksstudios]

Shes older than Ezra too

[@subpop74]

Unfortunately she’s the catalyst for the season

[@Aedrion-]

Also Sabine is a horrible name for a character in Star Wars. That's the name of regular women in their 40's where I live. I know two Sabines. So it's really jarring.

[@bigzed7908]

@@Aedrion- Wow, you must be 12. Luke ring any bells? Ezra ring any bells? It's names you absolute nonce...

[@DatJNP]

Her cutting her hair was accurate and good. She's not well realized as a character but your examples are incorrect. Her cutting her hair was perfectly valid. It happened for two reasons; physically, hair doesn't fit well in a helmet....and spiritually it's a personal way of saying "OK, let the past go, move forward." You talk about HER having the mindset of a teenager...but uh...pots and kettles much?

[@SavageRicktator]

They better give Baylan's character a satisfying payoff in the finale. I think Baylan has emerged as the most formidable character, with his gravitas on screen Ray Stevenson has been so impressive

[@jamesg871]

Only 1 episode left, and I'm not sure how they are going to wrap it up. I think it's going to be rushed.

[@resnatachyon]

Stevenson was amazing, it's a tragedy he won't be able finish the Baylan's arc. I would be offended if they recast.

[@alexparker5127]

@@resnatachyon I think they will have to recast. I can't see them finishing Baylan's story in one episode. I suspect Filoni will want a season 2, or to bring Baylan back for the "Heir to the Empire." The problem with not recasting is that they are going to have to write Baylan off, and do it off screen, and that's never going to feel salifying.

[@deanwatkins456]

Issue is the sad passing of Ray Stevenson almost makes it impossible to reprise the character if he survives this season. RIP Ray 😥

[@TanThighsYum]

I knew he was the coolest character since episode 1 so I'm not surprised by your comments OP. Don't worry, watch them have the blonde woman inevitably switch sides and kill him 🙄

[@Sangth123]

My favorite part was when Shin yelled "Fire!" and then we have like 8 seconds of Ahsoka appearing and blundering in from off screen, then one stormtrooper fires and the rest scatter.

[@AaronAntonJ]

Thrawn: "Dispatch two gunships to assist the mercenaries." - The gunships Thrawn sent his Night Troopers in, they could have just kept aerial advantage and bombarded down onto Ezra, Sabine, Ahsoka and their gang of crabs, how could they have fought back? Thrawn has aerial superiority but chooses not to use it? Genius. He could have pinned them down quite easily, yet chooses not to and then calls for his troops to retreat after they hit nothing, due to crabs + everyone else having plot armour. Conveniently, this allows Ahsoka perhaps enough time to get to Thrawn in the next episode. In short, this episode was made for 7 year olds. But it doesn't surprise me when Disney are at the helm.

[@Noctuam734]

I don't think you got his plan. The aim here is to leave Ahsoka and team occupied for enough time for Thrawn's escape. And he'll probably win. He intended to leave the mercenaries and Ahsoka fighting off so he can just leave them stranded. And it only cost 2 small ships with some troops. Sparing resources for his battle against the New Republic.

[@LizardSpork]

​​@@Noctuam734That's NOT his plan, that's his fallback plan. He even said as much about placing the enemy where he wants them, that's not a delaying action. And even if he was just trying to strand them, you know what works great at enemy suppression? Aerial bombardment and harassment from afar. You risk 0 troops and just expend ammo which judging from the shitton of mines they deployed, the Ring ship has aplenty. He even said in a previous episode "our numbers have dwindled", so manpower is an issue.

[@alexanderreich749]

@@Noctuam734 how is this in any way better than "send some TIEs, bomb the shit out of them, gl hf"?

[@AaronAntonJ]

@@Noctuam734 @lizardSpork has already nailed it with his reply. But, I'll add onto that. If you're capable of even holding off your enemy or even killing them with only using two gunships, whether you lose them or not, you've still achieved your goal. You then know for certain, there is no way they can stop your ultimate plan and you'll be leaving this galaxy momentarily regardless, so as he said previously, whether they're stranded here or killed either way, it is a win, but he could have guaranteed it, with aerial bombardment. 1 ship, 3 people and a clan of crabs vs a star destroyer, gunships and tie fighters, yeah, it doesn't make sense, no matter which way you want to add it up.

[@cosmickeyboard9811]

Ahsoka would shoot them down while distracted, the robot who name I honestly keep forgetting was patrolling the sky the whole time even after ahsoka got out. Makes no difference

[@lordcrayzar]

There is no tension AT ALL in this show. You know nothing will ever happen to the main characters.

[@brandonsmisek6334]

Seeing the troopers shoot at Sabine while being right in front of her and all the bullets just magically bounce off her is just ridiculous lol

[@firstlast9846]

I remember when in Andor the characters were *TERRIFIED* by a single TIE fighter.

[@JohnnyZenith]

They are being rather pusillanimous. Far too cautious.

[@John_Locke_108]

Ezra turned down the lightsaber because he knew there was no danger. Ugh. This stupid show.

[@watchmesquatch]

Uhhhh. Something already did happen to Ahsoka and Sabine. 😂 you dumb orrr?

[@2invidious]

I don't get why Ezra Bridger says "All I need is the force, I don't need my lightsaber" and then not 5 minutes later he's using a blaster to kill.... wildly inconsistent

[@One.Zero.One101]

Yeah it's weird, anything is better than hand-to-hand combat. You can't deflect blasters with your hands, unless you are Kylo Ren which is a topic I don't have the strength to get into right now.

[@AlphaladZXA]

​@TomCruz54321 It's been an hour, what's wrong with Kylo ren... uh asking for a friend btw

[@elnumbrotres]

@@One.Zero.One101Maul and Vader did it too. Mail redirected Bo Karan’s shots during the siege of Mandalore, and Vader redirected Han’s shots on Bespin

[@phillydelphia8760]

​@@elnumbrotresVader just ate those shots into his hand. Because he's Darth Vader. That's it. The more televised the extended universe gets, the less it makes sense and the worse it all becomes.

[@luckymark571]

I assume there is a reason he doesn't want to use a lightsaber

[@atn06]

The three witches can find Ashoka from space in 2 minutes but couldn’t find Ezra on the same planet for years. How convenient. Quite the short fall from the last episode.

[@anon2752]

Makes thrawn look dumb as fuck. If he knows they can find someone just by playing with their balls he should have used that to find ezra and at least keep track him to know where he is at all times. Since ya know, hes a possible threat. The only possible threat on the entire planet for a while.

[@WillTalksMovies]

I suppose they found the ship not an exact person

[@vonckjordy]

They only found her the moment she used the force to connect with Sabine but i guess we're gonna ignore that so we have something to complain about...

[@cragler]

Thrawn: “find ezra” Witches: “sure, hes right there”

[@anon2752]

Ezra has apparently been training with the force for all 10 years hes been there@@vonckjordy

[@TheWickedMessenger3]

Starwars has so much trouble with basic story telling things like characterization and motivations that I just don’t know how they are consistently so bad at it. Even when entirely different groups of people write it.

[@ElCocoNo_]

Disney only hires morons apparently

[@kevinlehmann3364]

OH MY LORD, THANK GOD FOR ALEX……30 sec into the video “the director didn’t know what they doing, although everything works on paper”…. My brain was melting trying to understand why certain shots were framed so awkwardly, certain holds/pauses between dialogue and edits between different character plot lines. Like it’s one of those rare times where I don’t necessarily blame the script, cause I was picturing what I would do to make the sequences better and it never came to the script, just the framing, overall cinematography, and editing. People don’t use the word “epic” anymore when it comes to Star Wars, and it’s sad. Say what you will about the Last Jedi, I wasn’t a huge fan either, but man that starship suicide scene was unforgettable, despite the lack of logic. Framing does so much for immersion and this episode suffered so much from how poorly it was applied.

[@arbo-u2b]

I think most of the problems with this episode kinda came down to the directing, the court part was pretty cheesy tho

[@Dachin55555]

God you’re so sad

[@davidalpeter9963]

Calm down Scorsese

[@KonsaiAsTai]

That starship suicide scene made me snap. It was so inexplicably dumb, even dumber than the movie until that very moment. It's only unforgettable in how retarded it was, is, and always will be.

[@Small-Chap]

@@Dachin55555oh no someone donesnt mindlessly doesnt love muh Disney Star wars

[@JorgeTamezPhoto]

I have a net-positive view of the show. I totally agree with Alex on Sabine as a character. I will go further and say I also don't like her acting. And at times it seems she's on screen even more than Ahsoka herself.

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

Chopping yer hair off is Empowering - Asajj Ventress

[@nosracbosstack4797]

Thank God it isn't just me who thinks so. She's the most ridiculous character ever.

[@Devilishlybenevolent]

For me, I'm just glad to see any star wars, they're pumping out so much and it's been good and bad, but either way it's been fun imo. Love all the lore and we're starting to go into "advanced" star wars so even more people will be lost lol

[@ge2719]

Yeah calling this show ahsoka is kinda a joke at this point

[@christianflor1394]

Baylan knows that he is staying, and if Shin want's to go back and join the new empire, she needs to be on team Thrawn. He is doing her a favour.

[@TheDravic]

LOL WHAT Shin couldn't fight a single Mandalorian, but Baylan thinks she has good enough chances of defeating A JEDI AND A MANDALORIAN?! Nevermind that; if Baylan "knew" he is staying, and he doesn't want Shin there, just tell her beforehand and don't take her on this journey. What changed between episode 1 and episode 7 that made Baylan tell Shin "please go fight a Jedi and just die already, I don't like you"? If he knew he doesn't want her there, he could've told her as much earlier. What was he even training her for if he doesn't want her to be a part of whatever he's up to?! LOL

[@blakelogan007]

If thats Shin goal, I hope the writters would make Shin more diabolical by blabing her mouth infront of Ezra showing grattitude to Sabine sarcastically for leading them to Ezra while ultimately freeing Thrawn from this galaxy. That would be cunning af stirring up drama and emotions of betrayal in Ezra eyes.That's what an evil villian would do before running away like a coward.

[@vonckjordy]

​@@TheDravicdo y'all just act dumb or what ?

[@goldfishprime]

Morgan was really giving these looks whenever Thrawn talked about things going according to plan, like "I think I made a mistake coming for you."

[@jumiangel739]

just like putin

[@alexanderreich749]

„Our special galaxy operation is perfectly going according to the plan, I have foreseen everything and we are obviously winning“

[@stevena.7022]

It's his version of "I'll get you next time!"

[@MuddywatermultimediaGroup]

Still cant believe her name is Morgan. Such an average sounding real world name for a star wars character

[@stevena.7022]

@@MuddywatermultimediaGroup I guess Morgana was too on the nose. Yet when I heard Morgan Ellsworth I thought it was a the actor's name.

[@vavan100]

Plot armour Is my shield Bad Writing is my sword Through victory, my chains are broken

[@ziziozzie8571]

The Reva impersonation had me laughing hard Joe, thanks

[@AndreNitroX]

Lol her screaming still rings in my ears

[@vinjass]

Lmaoooo at what time did that happen?

[@DavidWMiller]

My issue with Thrawn's portrayal is the same as it was in Rebels. Instead of authentically demonstrating his brilliance through his actions and choices, they rely on exposition and plot convenience. When decision after decision leads to shitty outcomes, that’s not brilliance because he sounds smart justifying it. If everything works out and you’re looking at a dozen ways it could have gone wrong that didn’t for no particular reason, that’s not genius, that’s plot armour. 

 Witnessing a character's brilliance should leave you genuinely perplexed about how the heroes could overcome the character's decisions. Maybe they'll still bring it home, but it doesn't look like that's the Thrawn we’re getting.

[@KharaChmiel]

That's pretty much indicative of any time the Disney Star Wars gang has taken anything from the books and media they decanonized. They always tend to destroy.

[@a.firkaly6548]

I’d say every imperial officer in Andor was far more intimidating, intelligent, and ruthless than Thrawn is in this show…

[@Donut0389]

Don't know if you noticed, but the decisions throwing wrenches in their plans are not Thrawns doing. He's forced to react to the crap decisions made by Morgan. She brought the mercenaries with her, one of which is AWOL. She brought Sabine with her, who is now teamed up with Ezra and Ahsoka. She led Ahsoka straight to them, thus allowing one of the most powerful Jedi to meddle with their plans. Thrawn only cares about one thing. Getting back to his own galaxy. Thus far, the problems Morgan brought with her have done little to nothing to slow his plans down. The man allows room for the unexpected. So far, he has accurately surmised that letting Sabine and Ahsoka dally about is of little concern because their primary objectives are to find each other. They're so distracted by that that they don't even know what Thrawn is planning.

[@YouTubeChannel-iq5to]

@@a.firkaly6548definitely. That’s the treatment Thrawn needed. But it’s the kiddy show, so that wouldn’t have fitted tonally

[@KharaChmiel]

@@Donut0389 I feel like this is you projecting what you think Thrawn is doing. Saying "he's allowed room for the unexpected" is just another way of saying "the plot requires this to happen so it has", unless he has shown us (not told us) that he's rolled with the punches before. This series hasn't gained that kind of traction with his character in order to make that determination. They are relying on our previous knowledge of Thrawn as on of the EU's best characters to carry them through the rough writing and plot conveniences. Thrawn acts like this in EU, so clearly he must also act like this in Ahsoka. That's called the easy way out.

[@lennipennyy]

I do 100% agree with Alex on this one. Compared to episode 6 which was great and promising, this episode is a 4 if not 3 out of 10 for me. Yes, the visuals are great. But every fighting scene felt boring and no consequences whatsoever. Minefield, crab-people battle, the stormtroopers and chin who fled. NOTHING happened. Thrawn and Baylan got 4 minutes screentime out of the 35 mins. It's just so underwhelming, sadly :( Oh, and I forgot about the three fighters who chased Ahsoka and Huyang for 45 minutes but did not hit a single shot.

[@Trocify225]

Oh yeah gotta love that beautiful plot armor everyone has

[@rooksed]

Ahsoka can take out thrawns star destroyer with just her ship idk why she hasnt figured that out yet

[@evangingerson1271]

Final episode will be 🔥 though

[@desendean6488]

Evenginger the last episode will be lame again

[@rooksed]

@@evangingerson1271 thats what people said about book of boba fett

[@rainingfallout3043]

Disney has run this franchise into the dirt.

[@Sossasammy]

With the help with Dave.

[@ddm62571]

😢

[@Arthus850]

@@SossasammyAnd people called him the saviour of Star Wars? Give me a break. I’m happy the fandom is finally seeing him for what he is, a traitor and a servant of Kennedy. People are always using the fact he was Lucas’s apprentice as a defence. Well, that’s proof that they’re not fans as if they were, they’d remember that Vader was ObiWan’s apprentice too.

[@Dachin55555]

Yes you’re sad about a company move on already you people just cry about the same damn thing

[@davidalpeter9963]

Jesus dude stop crying over disney buying star wars. News flash George Lucas ran the franchise into the dirt himself with the God awful prequels. At least disney made 2 successfull shows out of it.

[@DeadlierThanLag]

25:28 lethargic. That's how I'd describe it. It felt excruciatingly slow when I watched it the first time. When Andor was "slow" things were being developed or set up. In Ahsoka scenes just felt stretched out and dragged on for no reason with meaningless silence and staring.

[@alexanderreich749]

„I need at least 30 min per episode to get my paycheck guys, lets stretch it a little bit here and there“

[@stephanl2409]

So true

[@emberpowertcg7692]

True, so many scenes there's loads of awkward pauses in dialogue to pad out time

[@rumblefish9]

@@emberpowertcg7692 Filoni can't write compelling dialogue

[@rumblefish9]

This is the issue with Ahsoka, there is no tension, no stakes, no heart... it's just really bleh. Most of the characters are unlikeable and the ones that are are the bad guys.

[@Narukamiiii]

I didnt mind the purgil mines scene, but i do agree about TENSION, there's a severe lack of it throughout this episode, considering the circumstances and it being a penultimate episode

[@ash072]

It would have created more tension if some of the whales died or were seriously hurt... but I think this is kind of where Disney has certain boundaries for some reason.

[@LizardSpork]

​@@ash072None of the snail people got hurt either. Despite them being armed with rocks and slings. "They're a peaceful people", really? On a planet of dark power users, hostile raiders and almost no defensive positions? Why are they not extinct?

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817]

@@LizardSpork Did you really expect them to be in harms way at all? It's Star Wars and contrary to what people believe it's been like this before Disney, the Empire literally lost to teddy bears and a small raiding party of rebels in the original trilogy... This silly shit has been apart of this franchise since it's inception...

[@ppsarrakis]

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 tbh i didnt even think they will get hurt,heck i liked that they circled around the fallen one and set up defence instead of leaving him, it would be too inconsistent for Star wars otherwise,kinda like the "hobbits" from Rings of power if they left them

[@cyberius6]

When was the last time you felt tension in any Star Wars series or movies? 20 years ago? (I don't count Andor, cause it's a totally different thing from the rest of Star Wars stuff).

[@Dae...]

Seems the everyone just aims for Sebines armor on her chest the whole time. She has so much plot armor it's ridiculous.

[@damoncurrie7103]

Lol sarcastically stop being sexist

[@HydraTower]

I thought the same thing but then the next shot was right at her head that she blocked. It does make sense that a headshot would be hard to hit tbh.

[@LizardSpork]

The Empire (and the galaxy) seems to be chronically short on thermal detonators.

[@TheTaoZun]

The problem is two fold 1 every shot they take hits her armor. its not like they miss high right 2 times and then clip her shoulder. 2 she doesnt sell taking a shot to the body very well. there is no weight in the impact

[@One.Zero.One101]

The choreography in this episode reminds me of that kid Leia chase scene in Obi-Wan and the fight scene in Boba Fett when that power ranger dude just did a 360 spin for no reason. Use that Disney money to get some action choreographers like John Woo or the Jackie Chan stunt team.

[@firstlast9846]

*This series feels like Filoni* is trying to re-create Lord of The Rings… a MC who “dies” and comes back in all white, a dark lord who’s return is feared and speculated upon…. Just nowhere near as good.

[@lloydswaggedout]

I couldn’t agree more with Alex cause Sabine is the most annoying character on the show cause holy shit she’s been pissing me off

[@frankiecamacho6232]

Agree I hate how they wrote her character in this show

[@Narukamiiii]

Watch her not have any repercussions for the myriad of bad decisions

[@Automaton237]

I do like the show but have to agree her character is so annoying.

[@michaellane5381]

My problem is she is my favorite character IN the show yet her writing IN the show makes her my least favorite character portrayed BY the Show... Well except the new Republic leadership... Maybe Ezra, but idk enough about him yet.

[@redoctober2k593]

Its funny I remember liking her in rebels but maybe that's just because I was young...or they really fucked up her character lol

[@bsquared9288]

The worst part of the New Republic’s incompetence is that it was borne out of the Rebellion. We saw in “Andor” that the Empire underestimated the Rebellion, writing it off as “unorganized”. They should know better than to write off the Imperial Remnants in the same vein

[@shockmesane4158]

Crazy that these Star Wars shows cost so much to make and have so few episodes per season and we still get filler.

[@xRolyJoel]

Bit like the Kenobi show - just 6 episodes but almost all of the 5 hours of content was filler.

[@anonymous-hz2un]

You got memberberies, though. That makes up for the slow action scenes, one note characters and unengaging dialogue, right? Right..?

[@JavTheJoker]

​@@xRolyJoelThe showrunners are clearly incompetent.

[@connywinter]

It is cringe and hard to watch, but it is still realistic depiction of politicians watch some hearings.

[@LizardSpork]

If we're striving for realism, then we're seeing some grade A nepotism and blatant insubordination from Hera, Leia and Mothma. 🤣

[@makasete30]

That’s a really low bar to set really.

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

If Mon Mothma and C-3PO had randomly started waving lightsabres around Joe woulda given the scene 10 outta 10.

[@allthatishere]

​@@HisNameWasCrazyDo you just not like Joe, or what?

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

@@allthatishere just that he is very susceptible to key jangling in a way that Alex and OJ aren't. He's been giving 9 and 10 outta 10s to episodes that are mostly garbage.

[@tgm4723]

everytime i finally get myself to watch another episode of disney starwars, at some point i always end up saying "Who the fuck wrote this shit?"

[@rhymenoceros3303]

I just love that despite going there to die, the Space whales very clearly didn’t appreciate being blown up by a minefield and basically said “ Fuck this shit, I’m out”

[@beo3828]

I thought they weren't going there to die though, they were literally escorting Ahsoka. They might go die anywhere else, considering they can warp jump at will.

[@Trocify225]

@@beo3828the show literally said that’s where they go to die so the shit makes zero sense horrible writing

[@kielweiss3606]

​@@Trocify225 just bc it's their graveyard doesn't mean they were all going there to die and the show didn't say they were, only that that's what the planet was used for. As far as we know that system is the only entry/exit between the two galaxies so they pass by it on their travels.

[@Frenzyshark]

@@Trocify225 I believe the whales wanted to die.. peacefully. Like of old age or from excision. They probably didn't want to be killed by objects they don't fully understand. They'll probably come back and try again.

[@ge2719]

@@Trocify225 we burry people in graveyards. You ever been to a graveyard and not intended to be burried there? They go there to die but they a can also go there for other reasons as well.

[@henkaan7741]

I swear this series has no fucking clue on how to build tension

[@pauldacon828]

I don't care what anyone says, I hated the episode, and it made me think that Thrawn is an absolute joke that no one should ever fear. His contact point with the Nightsisters is a tower that is like 2 miles away from where Ezra has been hiding the entire time and Thrawn couldn't find him. He let Sabine go when he could have used her as a hostage, or just killed her. He said that he wisely sent Sabine away to distract Ahsoka, basically acknowledging the fact that he, his Stormtroopers, the Nightsisters, and the Jedi mercenaries are all too weak and incompetent to defeat one lone Jedi. How is he supposed to be a galaxy-wide threat that everyone should be terrified of when he can't find a shepherd boy living amongst the only peaceful settlement within miles and he can't even defeat a single former Jedi when he has a Star Destroyer, a legion of Stormtroopers, Nightsisters, and Jedi mercenaries at his disposal? This show is just proof that it doesn't matter how dumb you make something, because if you make it look pretty, you use good cinematography and editing, and present it in a way that seems stoic and important, the audience will eat it up like buttered popcorn.

[@pauldacon828]

My favorite part was when Thrawn brings in the Nightsisters to locate Ahsoka, then Morgan stands alone over in the corner and whispers some bullsh*t along with them like she isn't a useless c***.

[@Jonathanlepine]

Star Wars is done for since Disney bought it....

[@angryjoe98]

Why do people think that his goal is to kill them? That’s not what it is at all. He’s trying to leave the planet. He’s just trying to distract them and get them as far away from him as possible. He never really attempted to kill Ezra. it makes no sense for him to be trying to murder them. It’s not what’s important if you leave them stranded in a galaxy, they’re not gonna be much of it throughout why waste resources trying to hunt them down, he’s controlling the variables keeping where they are. He’s buying himself time to leave.

[@allthatishere]

Is buttered popcorn even that good? That shit gets stuck in your teeth, bro.

[@yournobody6487]

Just say you dont understand how 4 D chess works bro its ok. He never bothered looking for ezra because he was a non factor...they clarified that. Thrawn is just as ok with killing them as he is with leaving them there stranded either way they are nonfactors in his mind. His number one priority is getting back to the galaxy not finding ezra.

[@alicesaxon601]

Annnnd Thrawn is already doing shit Legends Thrawn never would. He's doing the same crap he did in Rebels where he would suffer avoidable losses, then claim its all part of his plan when in reality it just looks like him covering his ass. Damn man filoni is just not a smart enough writer to do thrawn justice.

[@sernolstic4981]

One thing to consider Is hyperspace lanes. I know Alex is worried about if they would go back to seatos. The reason why they likely will jump back there is because they have to follow hyperspace lanes and it's how they knew were to place the mine field too.

[@avengercannon]

There's a hyperspace lane to a galaxy that no one outside of a Jedi fairy tale knows about?

[@alexanderreich749]

If this were the case, why didn’t the Eye of Sion get hit by the mines?

[@sernolstic4981]

@@alexanderreich749 they placed the mines after the eye of sion jumped in. Thrawn tells them to prepare for ahsoka's arrival in episode 6 and that is why the mine field is there in 7

[@sernolstic4981]

@@avengercannon correct. That is the point of the map. It's not just showing what galaxy it is or else Sabine would be able to recognize it just by looking at the map in episode 2. It is also mapping the hyperspace lane that has to be traveled upon in order to reach the galaxy.

[@kielweiss3606]

​@@avengercannon yes, there are hyperspace lanes everywhere and in the lore/history explorers have to go around finding them. The "west" side of the star wars galaxy is deemed unknown bc ppl haven't been able to find hyperspace lanes to it for example. It's what separates the known galaxy between core/inner/middle/outer rim. The systems at the edge of the known hyperspace lanes are the outer rim.

[@lordbetty4806]

The chemistry between the 3 of you is seriously great, passion shines through. Thanks for all the work you guys do!

[@AndreNitroX]

I wish I had a friend group as great as this one

[@VexJinks]

Filoni is really good at drawing out an episode with walking scenes and pointless interactions.

[@MAJR9125]

Yeah, the guy who played baylon did a great job. He's by far one of my favorite characters of the show. It's sad he passed away

[@vladdebrancovan7011]

I can’t take this seriously when every move Ahsoka does with lightsabers should have ended up with her either cutting or stabbing herself.

[@Arander92]

Are you a choreographer?

[@Cnw8701]

I love how they gave this show the same treatment as Bad Batch, Book of Boba Fett, and The Mandalorian Season 3 by having Ahsoka barely in these last two episodes!

[@aqwDIGEDO]

Thank god, every scene with her is insanely boring, like almost every other scene in the show tbh

[@Cnw8701]

@@aqwDIGEDO I disagree, but I respect your opinion.

[@MattAlbie]

- No idea how Ahsoka, Sabine and Ezra intend to get back home or do next - No idea what Baylan wants or intends to do next - No idea what Darth hottie intends to do next - No idea what Thrawn's master plan entails - No idea how the evil witches play into that or want from allying with him - No idea what Hera intends or thinks she needs to do next

[@moon1night7]

Patience is Key

[@WeMissDimebag]

- They’re gonna use whales again (Ezra will fix it) or Huyang will do some bullshit to trace their path back - Yeah no idea - If Morgan, she got what she wanted. If Shin, yeah, no idea. - He’s too busy trying to get home first - They made a deal of some kind that has to do with the cargo they’re loading. The Mothers are going with him and they demanded the cargo come too. - Hera’s portion of this show is done, she was only here to connect Ahsoka and Sabine and then warn Mon Mothma.

[@Lavolpeengreece]

Darth hottie 😂

[@JonasGrumby]

They made Ezra a little bitch which no one wants to see. Hopefully they turn that around quick.

[@ezioauditore1300]

48:40 Yes Anakin trained Ahsoka to do a 360 defence, vut not because he knew about order 66. It was standard training in case she would be attacked by multiple enemies.

[@ge2719]

Watching her fighting in this is so bad though. She is so slow. Even just compared to other live action star wars saber fights. But since she's only been in animated shows before this age was so far in those it looks so bad seeing her incredibly slow in this. They really need to speed up the footage or something

[@hakim6933]

I hate how Ezra refuses to take back his saber.

[@Arander92]

Goddammit why are y’all so upset about this?

[@ge2719]

@@Arander92 because he says the force is all he needs, then he picks up a gun. So he should have just taken back the saber. They only put that line in as a references to the rebels show and then couldnt be bothered making him capable enough to follow through with it.

[@A.rtificial-I.nclusion]

They need to end the season with thrawn jumping back into the known star wars galaxy and it should cut to the new republic leadership (who detected it/have known proof he Is back) and mon mothma looks at the camera with a 1000yrd stare and says "somehow Thrawn has returned!" Cut to black

[@brachyzoid]

Whatever brand of Copium Joe is in, I'd love some. Looks like it's the strong shit.

[@anon2752]

Its called "Not wanting to agree with the people who trigger him on twitter/X at all costs"

[@JavTheJoker]

I think Filonis style of writing just doesn't fit the big screen. He needs to have an accomplished writer besides him. And no, not Favreau, we've all seen how Mando S3 went.

[@ElderNewt]

Another hot mess of a Star Wars series. They seriously need to stop having multiple directors doing different episodes.

[@danilorange1961]

Alex being the culture critic again, overestimating his cognitive capabilities. This constantly negative guy is damaging your show. OJ getting quieter and quieter.

[@Kane.JimLahey.]

Call Me Chato - "Filoney should change his name to Felony, because this show was a real crime."

[@S4ns]

Okay, only one episode left before Joe inevitably realizes the entire season was a massive waste of time and complete worthless garbage.

[@bignigga1008]

Knowing Disney+ shows, the finale will be 18-21 mins long

[@MrCaptnrex]

39:00 I would argue they have to go back where they started, the hyperspace lane they chose was clear of anything in their way because its the route the whales take, if they tried to just make a random jump they could hit anything and fuckin die lol

[@ash072]

I agree... you can't just hyperspace willy nilly. They mention in many shows and movies that you'd jump into a planet or what not. The route between galaxies is specific and mapped out already with the necessary coordinates to avoid the naturally occurring space hazards along the way. They are forced to return to that planet.

[@firnardaionDE]

And if you look close on that shot of the mines. The mines surround the whole planet.

[@vulcan280]

Disney does not want to recast characters because they think it will confuse little kids

[@camolive3727]

Putting Star Wars characters in Star Wars isn’t what fan service is. You might as well say that making good Star Wars is fan service. Remember the artifact room in Andor full of artifacts from dead Star Wars characters from outside of canon which had nothing to do with the non-existent plot? That was fanservice. Your generation had every opportunity to not bully George into selling Star Wars to the empire. Dave Filoni is the best you can hope for now. Accept it or go back to directors who admit they want the audience to hate their movies, or directors don’t like Star Wars, like Rian Johnson and Tony Gilroy.

[@askmeificare5557]

I'd rather have Tony Gilroy who doesn't like Star Wars and produces gold than Dave Filoni who loves Star Wars, yet doesn't understand how to write and produces nothing but turds.

[@camolive3727]

@@askmeificare5557 Filoni is the only one left who can actually make Lucas’ SW. There’s a reason nobody watched Andor. There’s a lot of coping going on by a very small number of people right now.

[@askmeificare5557]

@@camolive3727 He can't make Lucas' Star Wars, because he hasn't made Lucas' Star Wars yet. Nothing Filoni has produced even compares to the original trilogy, and is not better than the prequels either.

[@camolive3727]

@@askmeificare5557 Clone Wars, Rebels, Tales of the Jedi, Mando, etc. Everything he’s made is Lucas SW. The fanbase simply disagrees with you.

[@askmeificare5557]

@@camolive3727 Mandalorian season 2 is mediocre at best and season 3 is downright awful. Clone Wars is filled with massively unnecessary filler, as is Rebels. They have their moments, but as a whole, no, they are not on par with Lucas Star Wars. And Tales of the Jedi is not good. Just because it explores the backstory of likeable characters from other entries does not make it likeable in and of itself. The fanbase also has The Force Awakens as the 2nd highest grossing SW film to date and has TFA and TLJ as some of the highest rated SW films in the saga. I really don't care how the greater fanbase feels. Bad writing is bad writing. Andor not receiving the attention it deserves does not take away from that, nor does something like Obi-Wan receiving attention it doesn't deserve make up for its poor quality.

[@garrettalbertsen8719]

I’m from the Portland OR area, I hope you liked Multnoma Falls Joe!

[@kuunami]

I'm disappointed that Ezra didn't have a lightsaber.

[@JustMe_Inq]

Being stranded there how the fuck was he suppoused to make a new lightsaber?

[@Trocify225]

@@JustMe_Inquse the one Sabine was trying to give him tf

[@JustMe_Inq]

@@Trocify225 re-read op's comment and mine. You are talking about ezra Using a lightsaber, op talked about him Having a lightsaber. He doesn't have one since he left his to sabine and has been stranded for over a decade

[@cnkclark]

I liked Ezra fighting more like a Force Monk - he's spent 10 years surviving without a lightsaber so he's used to fighting using the Force, plus it made me think of Donnie Yen in Rogue One.

[@Cnw8701]

They replicated the stupidity of our own government PERFECTLY in Star Wars! 😂

[@hawkens3820]

Star Wars is fucking dead as long as Disney has it.

[@G0ldfishOnFyre]

Your comment about Baylon vs reva had me dying Like who tf casted her🤣

[@octobotimus]

This episode felt like filler tbh. Nothing really changed at all. Baylan just suddenly parting ways then just sitting there for 15 minutes doing nothing felt so weird.

[@KharaChmiel]

The stormtroopers shooting like they playing some X-COM 2. 98% chance to hit, wildly miss.

[@syphonfillter]

The main characters all have Dodge 100. Point blank shot for 12 damage? Dodge, 1 damage.

[@KharaChmiel]

@@syphonfillter Them grazes are brutal.

[@eternalgames9978]

Damn didnt realise there was so much hate for this series. Thought this episode was meh but other then that ive thought its been solid imo

[@johnathanmacreen1046]

Right? I love clone wars/rebels and having been having an absolute blast with this series! Not perfect but it's been enjoyable

[@mothmonster]

People just love to hate everything

[@natediaz1863]

Get off twitter

[@SadamHussain-zh8in]

We must stand up to these haters and touch them where they don't like it if you know what I'm saying hehe👌🤫

[@fernandohernandez8373]

Agree I'm loving this show

[@PeeGeeThirteen]

7 episodes in and I still don't understand the big deal about Thrawn as a threat and his rickety Star Destroyer. And we still have no idea what Baylan''s motiavtions are

[@tylerledbetter7735]

Alex is just super critical on everything. I feel like he thinks about and analyzes everything. With Star Wars I think we need someone like him to tell us because as fans we will ignore bad writing for nostalgia.

[@stew360]

It aint bad writting .. its series writting wich elongate the themes suspens and character developpement , Alex is sometime highly stupid and judge a serie as if it was a 3 hour movie .. They wont wrap up the admiral , the witch , the fallen jedi or Asoka arc in the final lol the first season is the setup for upcoming season ! Its a introduction not a full on its own movie !

[@LizardSpork]

A dumb trial followed by a dumb fight. Banking on nostalgia and lacking in tension and substance.

[@Ahzumer]

as someone who doesnt know rebels i just dont like the characters at all. im trying but i just cant seem to connect with them.

[@damoncurrie7103]

As a rebels fan these aren't really the characters. Badly animated CGI emotes better than these actors.

[@DeltaStray]

Everyone complainss about Sabine but Morgan elsbethh or whatever literally stood still and stared at shit all 7 episodes.

[@butterflymage5623]

When Ezra said I don’t need it the force is my ally I fully expected him to start doing hand deflections of blaster bolts like Darth Vader did to Han Solo walking down the oops like the god he is. 😢

[@MuddywatermultimediaGroup]

Lol same, didnr expect him to force push people the way neo did in the new matrix movie lol

[@dallasrocha7731]

Thrawn: "We'll be one step ahead of them" Me: How? Thrawn: *calls in UAV* Me: oh

[@JCShadow0202]

Was loving this show up until this episode, Ezra not using HIS lightsaber infuriated me. “The force is the only ally I need” *proceeds to use a blaster*

[@MajorGloryMan]

every - single - time. Joe gets excited, overrates episodes while dismissing every single valid point against them being good, later backtracks and lowers the grade... I'm really just here for Alex and OJ at this point!

[@cannabeastie]

holy shit this episode was so abysmal... Like, how does Disney, a multi-billion dollar entertainment giant, fumble the ball like a freshman cheerleader thrown into the game for shits and giggles?

[@AndreNitroX]

They have been doing it for the last 10 years, this is actually the least worst fumble

[@anonymous-hz2un]

It's all Filoni, bro. This guy's a hack.

[@ser_ryon_vine6392]

Ezra is a wind bender now confirmed 💯

[@antoncaligari1818]

Look over there while I'm doing something here - the end.

[@Koplod]

Why are Disney incapable of writing or directing effective troop tactics. The troopers had the main characters surrounded, why the fuck would they not fire when commanded just because Ezra shouts "wait"? Why would they then decide to just run away as soon as Ahsoka shows up? Just blast the hell out of them - I get that the main characters have plot armour, but that just makes it all the more important to direct the scene in a manner that doesn’t make the troopers seem like incompetent morons AGAIN

[@jimmyvbuck1868]

I never watched rebels but thrawn seems like an idiot to me, acting like getting bested 3 times is somehow good is idiotic. Then again so is the fact that they had them circled and had fighters on the ship for like an hour and yet accomplished nothing...Where are the high stakes if everyone just misses 100% of their shots no matter what... Really did not like this episode

[@Haegemon]

Because if they have not missed their shots it wouldn't be StarWars. All the main characters would have died.

[@gebruederkeulemanns]

Alex and OJ: She blocks shots with her lightsaber AJ: No! I disagree Alex and OJ: No, we watched it frame by frame AJ: No, i dont thrust you. I need to rewatch it She is literally 9-10 feet away, blocks the blaster shot and doent hit him with her lightsaber

[@mesicek7]

Anyone realize a pattern with Joe? He almost always no matter how bad the first few episodes of a new series are will praise it and have good words to say even though most of the viewers find it bad. Then it takes him like a couple of episodes to realize it's not that good. He did it with Rings Of power, She-Hulk and now with Ahsoka. It's kinda hillarious at this pont Joe. Are you getting paid for those first few episodes to give a good impression so people will watch it? Wouldn't be that surprising.

[@KaneK1234]

He just wants to give things the benefit of the doubt. This episode can’t be defended, though.

[@mesicek7]

@@KaneK1234 Yeah but when it's so obvious that it's bad that you can see it on Alex's face then you know something's going on.

[@ovinophile]

50:19 “They better not be able to quickly run and jump on the Chimaera” 😬

[@eve.2739]

More Lucasfilm slop with nostalgia bait. Dave Filleroni is not Star Wars’ savior lmao

[@treadlightly76]

Thrawn IS a tactician. He baited us into a fully armed and operational Sequel Ending!

[@chalmers1984]

Ezra not using his lightsabre puzzled me

[@Automaton237]

He hasn't used the lightsaber for 10 years why would you use a lightsaber when he knows he's not good with it after not having any practice and he gave it to Sabine so she can use

[@One.Zero.One101]

@@Automaton237 Rey Skywalker beat Kylo Ren while wielding a lightsaber for the first time.

[@beo3828]

Many Jedi forego their lightsabers after reaching certain level of connection with the Force.

[@Automaton237]

@@One.Zero.One101 that was because she was a Mary Sue with plot armor and don't bring in the sequel trilogy to explain why Ezra could use a lightsaber after 10 years those movies had horrible riding

[@luckymark571]

​​@@One.Zero.One101Really using Rey as an example? Sequel trilogy isn't canon imo 😂

[@spycheck]

42:08 oh I love Alex 😂 he needs to write for movies/shows

[@micknightmare3]

The shows for children. Not like adventure time were its made for kids but adults enjoy it because of the funny clever writing. This is just writen for kids that arent questioning things much lol 😂 kids give it 10/10 explosions!

[@SPARTANoh11]

Also Anakin did NOT know order 66 was going to happen. He trained her in order to ensure her survival against anything.

[@JayTraversJT]

The difference with this shows slow scenes and Andors slow scenes is that Andors slow scenes are actually warranted and have satisfying payoff. They’re as slow as Breaking Bad’s slow scenes are.

[@MuddywatermultimediaGroup]

I was able to watch andor with my mom who is now 80 and doesnt know shit about star wars but she was into the show.

[@luckymark571]

"Satisfying payoff" there was nothing satifying from that show except maybe the prision episodes

[@kdude1575]

I was happily surprised that jury duty was so short. That senator is 2598% an imperial.

[@TheBloch007]

I wish a had Joe as a teacher🤣"Yeah, nothing works, the action is bad, there is no plot, the characterrs are dumb and stupid, the scenes dont make sense either, but the landscapes are cool, so therefore I will it a 6/10 rating!"

[@TheBloch007]

People like Joe is the reason why all the disney star wars is shit. Maybe if we told them it was shit instead of rating everything a 6/10, then we would actually get some good content for once, instead of this garbage... disappointing

[@TheBloch007]

They literally gave episode 5 a 10/10 score... The show did not get worse, nor did it get better, it has been shit since episode 1 through 8

[@siko-society5635]

Joe: she hulk is good guys. Arosoka is so good as well. Joe now: why the fuck did I say that about She hulk. Arosoka is shit now guys as well.

[@rovert881]

The last two episodes had me confident in Star Wars. This one made that confidence dip a bit I hope they stick the landing for the most part next episode but who knows

[@luiszuniga5037]

Sabine SHOULDNT have force powers.

[@shizbyrc8438]

I haven't watched any of the show yet. I just can't get over Thrawn looking like Elon Musk blue himself.

[@bitwawesome7]

Funny 5:25 9:00 13:36 23:45 31:20 32:33 39:39 43:30 47:17 48:04 49:44 54:34

[@paulconrad6220]

14:30 Something to do with cloning, like in the novels? Anyway, this season has been a long walk for a little bit of actual plot

[@parapendejadas4913]

AJ got a big fat check from uncle Disney I see....

[@mattthrower6381]

Question: If the three witches could locate Ashoka using their balls. Why couldn't they do the same to find Ezra? Are you really telling me, that Thrawn, did not think to use them to locate Ezra, and eliminate the threat at all, in the decade they were on that planet? This episode was just like the rest, poorly written, with no substence. Seriously 7 episodes in, and what has really happened? They found a ball, lost the ball, used space whales to follow bad guys to another galaxy.... that is all that has happened in 7 episodes.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

I think I'd give the episode a 6/10 after sitting on it. Slightly above average is more than fair. It feels absolutely surreal to see _Rebels_ and _Clone Wars_ characters come to life, but outside of that it was just kind of eh for me. Baylan v Ahsoka round 2, Ezra and Sabine vs Shin and the troopers were the high lights. The banter between Ezra and Sabine was something straight out of _Rebels_ writing. And seeing Ezra fight with only the Force really feels like a completion of his journey. Kanan had to drill it into him several times, that "having a laser sword doesn't make you a Jedi." and it's honestly a refreshing take on the whole "this weapon is your life!" because....it shouldn't be. Your lightsaber would be a part of you, an extension of you, but not VITAL to you. Kanan's teachings fit for the time period he and Ezra were in. Even Ahsoka Tano taught him how to defend himself from her swings without his saber. I think it would be an important lesson to teach any Padawan. To not over rely on ONE thing. It would be like putting all your skill set in one trait vs being a jack of all trades. And we've seen in nature how that works. Often not well. Cheetahs are prime example of this. They maxed out on speed and thus get bodied by EVERY big cat in Africa. And that's not even the end of what they get bodied by. So it's smart to me to not have Force sensitives rely on one skill set. Also seeing him Force stop Shin's saber is incredible. It's great to see more of that in canon. I feel like you really need to be powerful in the Force to do that, because you're not stopping the PERSON but the BLADE. One second's worth of lapse in concentration and you're done.

[@alexanerose4820]

While you're wrong about the animal specialization thing (Case in point: most successful creatures are either exclusively carnivores or herbivores like the crocodile being a specialized aquatic carnivor, dinosaurs being specialized in their respective fields for millions of years, and your Cheetah example being utterly wrong as they are not "brawlers" like lions are because they have not evolved for speed and getting away) I'd agree with your assessment i the episode. Hopefully the Abaloth sp[eculations hold and Thrawn doesn't die

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@alexanerose4820 lol I can concede I was thinking of things on the fly and when that happens I CAN kind of be like you know...just...incorrect lol. I was trying to think of a good analogy for Padawans to be taught to not rely on one skill set, and cheetahs came to mind because they maxed out on speed and that kind of does them in imo. I don't think Thrawn is gonna perish in the finale. This will tie into the Filoni movie along with BOBF, and Mandalorian. He needs it all to come together and Thrawn being the threat in a film would make the most sense. And I think that's where Ahsoka will meet her end too. She made her debut in a theatrical movie, she should have her final curtain call be in a theatrical film.

[@olabolob]

Jingling keys

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@olabolob "hey so back in the day the back rooms jingle jingle jingle" 😆

[@VexJinks]

Except people watch Star Wars for the lightsabers, not the force.

[@dazedoracle9645]

Ahsoka's fate is to walk back through the portal in the world between worlds and be killed by Vader thus new timeline, sequels retconned.

[@drb262]

How is the jury duty tropey if it’s so true to American politics/global politics in general…? There are many politicians who are cartoonishly obtuse that it feels like bad writing…Dude is basically Josh Hawley

[@drb262]

Like how is this any different from GOP representatives that we KNOW are Russian assets trying to deny aide to Ukraine?

[@milomateer6565]

You’re right it is just as dumb as reality but would’ve been nice and less dumb if other characters said stuff to help Hera like Carsen, Akbar, or the other surviving x-wing pilots

[@risby5358]

Sabine never tells Ezra anything important during this whole episode. They even get attacked by Thrawn's forces. Ezra asks Sabine if she knows anything about them. Sabine barely gives a vague answer. Ezra is totally in the dark about Thrawn's plans, the fate of galaxy, the undoing of his sacrifice by Sabine, everything. SABINE IS TERRIBLE AND MAKES THIS SERIES AWFUL.