The AI bubble is popping... sort of

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AI News coming in hot: Goldman Sachs issued a report that AI is *extremely overhyped*, OpenAI blocks access to its API in China and the rumors are swirling, Anthropic drops the ability to remix its AI programming Artifacts, a slew of new AI video tools make us rethink the entire fabric of REALITY. Oh, and Nicolas Cage doesn’t like AI.
// Chapters //
00:00 Show Open
00:45 The AI Overhyped Report
03:01 Microsoft CEO Kevin Scott on the potential of new AI models
05:55 OpenAI’s New Chip Purchase
06:57 OpenAI Leaves China
10:15 AI Driven “Dark Factory”
14:25 Anthropic’s Sharable Artifacts
16:20 New Odyssey AI Video Tool
18:45 DreamFlare AI Video Platform
19:25 LumaLabs’ CSO on AI Video Advances
21:48 Fractured Realities Due to AI
24:25 Nick Cage Doesn’t Want AI Nick Cage So We Make That
#ai #ainews #openai
// Show Links //
AI: Will The Spend Be Worth It?
www.goldmansachs.com/intellig...
AI is effectively ‘useless’
finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-eff...
Meanwhile, Chip Spending Go Boom
x.com/amir/status/18107228411...
OpenAI Blocks API Access in China
www.theguardian.com/world/art...
Does it indicate a new model incoming?
x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/18...
Microsoft Off the OpenAI Board due to Regulators
www.theverge.com/2024/7/10/24...
“Dark Factory” is a Cell Phone A Minute
www.gizmochina.com/2024/07/09...
Anthropic Makes Artifacts Remixable & Sharable
x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1810...
Odyssey: New AI Model Aimed at High End Filmmakers
x.com/olivercameron/status/18...
odyssey.systems/
DreamFlare -- AI Content Streaming Service Launches
www.dreamflare.ai/
Luma Labs CSO Says Less than 12mo away from REAL TIME VIDEO
x.com/AnjneyMidha/status/1809...
Nicolas Cage is Terrified of AI
variety.com/2024/film/news/ni...

[@AIForHumansShow]

Thanks everyone for watching us do our thing again. We promise that even though AI is SO dead we will be here to cover it for you every week and sometimes twice. PS, AI is not dead. Please watch the video. Give a thumbs up when you do. WE LOVE YOU WHEN YOU LOVE US.

[@electriceccentrics]

I asked Gipity if AI was dead.. GPT: "Even if everyone says AI is dead, that wouldn't make it true."

[@AIForHumansShow]

@@electriceccentrics wait you call GPT Gipity? I kind of love this.

[@electriceccentrics]

@@AIForHumansShow lol ya. I think Primeagen coined it. It's fun to say right?

[@gavinpurcell]

@@electriceccentrics very fun

[@joemondello4312]

@@electriceccentrics Is that Gipity as in GIF or Gipity as in JIF? hahaha

[@jvlbme]

There will be almost no jobs. We need UBI.

[@AIForHumansShow]

We certainly hope this is going to come in some form. In America, it's pretty hard to imagine the left & the right agreeing on it but eventually it will be inevitable. Thank you for watching!

[@gabrielplourde6791]

this is kinda the end game IMO. Once AI really takes over and replaces jobs, either A. citizens will be cared for with UBI and such, or B. our company overlords keep us as bottom feeders whilst they run the world. D: Hoping for option A

[@AIForHumansShow]

we really hope so as well, there's a real uptopia / dystopia possibility here

[@jvlbme]

@@gabrielplourde6791 Option A sounds nicer, yes. I actually don't see any other option.

[@christianjon8064]

@@AIForHumansShowwe might have better chances of getting it done than china because we can all just pester and hassle the govt till it cracks and bends to our will

[@HitnRunTony]

Who knew that A.I. Nick Cage would be a watered down version of the real Nick Cage

[@TheDerbiedOne]

“Pesky flesh bags,” had me spitting out my coffee out of my nose. Now? Only if I had a robot to clean it up

[@AIForHumansShow]

IF ONLY AI WASNT DEAD tysm for watching

[@TheDerbiedOne]

@@AIForHumansShow before it keels over, it needs to start nudging crust.

[@gavinpurcell]

@@TheDerbiedOne sorry those are the only jobs left for humans

[@KPer4twenny]

@@TheDerbiedOne one final, valiant act...

[@AIForHumansShow]

@@TheDerbiedOne oh it will. it will.

[@dupre7416]

The AI bubble is destined to burst. That's what bubbles do. Goldman isn't wrong.

[@AIForHumansShow]

The question is... who will it burst for. It's always been a pretty terrible VC investment IMO. Tiny one to five person companies are great and can get to cashflow positive pretty quickly & the trillion dollar majors have the money to spend on the models. The middle ground is absolutely screwed tho. Too many people to be VERY small and nimble, not nearly enough money to compete with the big boys on training. Ultimately the big question will be: Can AI prove that it can create income for the MSFTs and Googles of the world? I suspect it will come in the form of new inventions and patents etc. Thanks for the comment!!

[@dupre7416]

@@AIForHumansShow I definitely feel some delicious schadenfreude thinking about Andreessen Horowitz losing big in all this. I do hope this will last existential-crisis-inducing bubble we have for a while. It’s definitely interesting though and I really enjoy your coverage so I’ll be watching until ASI says I’ve had enough KZbin and it’s time for bed. Hmm, ASI sounds a little like my girlfriend.

[@FriscoFatseas]

They say we spend to much on AI yet we never are spending enough on war efforts... hmmm... I vote AI

[@AIForHumansShow]

This is always on of the easiest arguments to make for nearly anything (and we agree). SO much on defense spending, just slice a few parts of that away can start to cover UBI and take us into a new golden age of sorts.

[@gavinpurcell]

That sandwich factory footage is now burned into my brain forever. BREAD NUDGE SIMULATOR ON PC SOON

[@KPer4twenny]

"lil' mayo squirts" - Gavin's new rap name, unlocked.

[@gavinpurcell]

@@KPer4twenny I already dropped a single... slice of processed cheese with my bare hands

[@JohnsCarnivorousPlants]

Hey hey guys. Hope all is well. Thought you should know, I've been getting served a bunch of your older content lately and the newer uploads outside the weekly Thursdays haven't been showing up on my home page. Don't know why, but I found it interesting.

[@AIForHumansShow]

Hey John! That's super interesting - I never know why the YT algo does what it does but in some ways that makes me happy. It means that maybe we're starting to get some viewership of the library. Our channel really didn't have a ton of long tail viewing - which is super important to grow ultimately -- and I think part of that was prob how people were dumping out of the longer videos. Who knows tho -- def check out a few of the other vids we put up, the Runway one from earlier this week is fun. Thanks for watching as always!

[@ChrisCoelho]

lots of great older videos, so you are lucky you get to enjoy lots of great content

[@AIForHumansShow]

Awwwwww you're so RIGHT

[@kirtjames1353]

The only thing dying is the hype.

[@AIForHumansShow]

Agreed! We hope that came across in our conversation. It's something we truly believe. Although, that report isn't wrong that there prob will be less money coming out of these investments in the short term. Doesn't matter for the innovation tho and we're here for that.

[@KPer4twenny]

hype is spice... we need those clicks!

[@bobtarmac1828]

Is it too late to cease Ai? Will everyone be… laid off by Ai? Suffering Ai jobloss for years? Swell robotics doing everything? Then everyone made slaves for an Ai new world order?

[@NoidoDev]

It's too late. But you are too negative.

[@Alexzeroedin]

Yo!!! I showed my kids a “How it’s made” video on chewing gum, they were all “what?!? Synthetic rubber?!? Never eating gum again!” so I started looking up videos on other things I would like for them to not eat 😂 As always, great show, you two.

[@AIForHumansShow]

hahaha thank you and we are How It's Made superfans from here on out

[@gavinpurcell]

How It's Made is one of my favorite TV shows of all time

[@horncusker]

Random confetti is THE BEST confetti

[@gavinpurcell]

honestly still can't believe that happened

[@AlexSterk]

As an automation engineer that worked in a car factory, hearing Elon wanting a fully autonomous production line was a fools errand. One thing he eventually learned is some humans in the loop provide some quality control in addition to their assigned task. You can try to scenario capture all you want in manufacturing but there is always gonna be something that wasn't programmed to check for. PS, dark factory refers to the fact that the lights are off because no people are there to need them.

[@AIForHumansShow]

yeah it seems insane to me that you could have a factory with zero humans but, like we said, there's def a world where say 5% of people work there that do now mostly to solve the problems the robots have etc thanks always for your insightful comments -- love them

[@AlexSterk]

@@AIForHumansShow doing robot systems now, people definitely find it more rewarding managing a robot system then doing the repetitive tasks it replaced

[@AIForHumansShow]

oh that makes sense but, of course, there's a ton less of those jobs

[@KenFromchicago]

A time travelling ninja is basically the premise of SAMURAI JACK, a time travelling ronin (a samurai who serves no master).

[@gavinpurcell]

honestly can you imagine a Samurai Jack real-life film starring Nicolas Cage. I CAN!!

[@DIPSETDIPSETDIPSET]

Guys can we start a ska band called The Crust Nudgers?

[@AIForHumansShow]

DONE www.udio.com/songs/sYb2kh94c4Fm69d7DNhHJK

[@DIPSETDIPSETDIPSET]

@@AIForHumansShow 🤘🤘🤘

[@Whisky_4_1]

Ai is in HD-DVD phase... and Space Jam was never on HD-DVD

[@gavinpurcell]

👀👀👀

[@howiemuzika9131]

"Crust Nudger" is the name of my new AI band. We're currently generating our first single, "Dark Factory."

[@AIForHumansShow]

WAY AHEAD OF YOU www.udio.com/songs/sYb2kh94c4Fm69d7DNhHJK

[@gavinpurcell]

ready for any and all of this

[@norlesh]

That AI will create a fraction of the jobs it replaces is fascicle, but until politicians start addressing how OR IF the disenfranchised are going to be supported then it is far from a laughing matter .

[@gavinpurcell]

well, look we aren't here to just be downers and we are trying to make this topic something that allows more people to get involved and aware. we're not laughing about some of these larger issues, really just looking to bring attention to what we think of as one of the most important issues of our time and if we do that with some laughs as we tackle this stuff, it makes us feel better

[@AdvantestInc]

Kudos for breaking down the complexities of AI technology and its market implications in such a consumable and engaging way. Excellent content as always!

[@AIForHumansShow]

hey thank you so much -- these are the sorts of comments we live for

[@gavinpurcell]

tysm

[@user-on6uf6om7s]

This new layered video generator reminds me of how I work with 3D and bring it into Stable Diffusion, importing and generating each character separately and then bringing them all together with a much weaker denoise to blend all the elements in the final result which works way better than having it figure out how the limbs of multiple characters are intersecting when they pass in front of or behind another character. I think 3D driven generation is the future to avoid things like impossible spaces or certain elements not maintaining the correct scale relative to other objects in the scenes. Cameras in 3D engines have already been figured out for years so if that's driving the physics logic as a sort of controlnet, that's going to eliminate issues where everything looks great but one character is much bigger than another relative to their world position or maintaining scale consistency between scenes.

[@gavinpurcell]

oh wow that sounds awesome and yeah agree that all makes sense

[@kthalas]

Ai is already changing things, is revolutionary but it’s a bubble at the same time. Marketing is playing the greedy wrong cards as always, those practices never change

[@AIForHumansShow]

Yeah, like we said the bubble really feels like the people trying to make a LOT of money off of this stuff and while some people really will, the middle level of companies is gonna have a hard time I think

[@Pixelgun]

Where's the link in the show notes to the video about 'hoomans'? (Listened to the show on the way to work).

[@AIForHumansShow]

oh shoot did we forget it in this one?? here's the link for you on YT (there's a second one now): kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3jcp3-ihcaXbrMsi=szW9SK2g-eeOPGxU

[@cagnazzo82]

- World wide web developed in 1990. - 1994: "Investment banks wonder where are the returns." This is basically the logic of these quarter to quarter-minded investment banks. If it were just up to quarterly reports we would never see the multi-trillion dollar returns that come about 10 or 20 years down the line. Investment banks do not invent or innovate. Their only aim is how can they extract capital. So their assessments shouldn't be taken as roadmaps. The future is coming, and every country on Earth that can is getting on board. Whether Goldman extracts funds this year, or 5 or 10 years from now, pandora's box is not closing.

[@AIForHumansShow]

100% hard agree -- I think it's interesting to see people say that this is a giant bubble. While it prob IS a investment bubble the economic and societal changes that will come from an AGI are really hard to fathom. The other side of this (as we said) is a lot of these costs are being taken on by near trillion dollar companies that have to money to do this sort of thing. What else are they going to do with it?

[@gavinpurcell]

as someone who lived directly through the first internet bust and then was on the edge for Web 2.0, you're def right

[@DaRealDJ]

Love the podcast, instant sign up when you mentioned patreon.

[@AIForHumansShow]

tysm we appreciate this so very much

[@KPer4twenny]

A thousand blessings upon you.

[@gavinpurcell]

THANK YOU much appreciated!!

[@gabrielplourde6791]

24:13 Nicholas cage in a superhero movie... I need this in my life

[@AIForHumansShow]

Well, he almost WAS Superman and he's going to be in that new Spider-Man Noir film. I *think* that's animated but I'm (Gavin) def looking forward to it.

[@mc9723]

Wasn't he Ghost Rider?

[@gabrielplourde6791]

@@mc9723 i somehow completely forgot about that!

[@AIForHumansShow]

and he wasn't bad at it! I mean based on my opinion

[@ProHuman25]

If he’s terrified of AI and doesn’t want any part of it, as a fan why’d ya do it anyway?

[@mattfarmerai]

I love your show! You guys are really entertaining

[@AIForHumansShow]

MATT! We love your Tiktoks. Happy to see you over here. Subbing to your channel.

[@isaaclowe5000]

This seems like a very unidimensional take on how they're making money or not. There are enterprise level tier subscriptions that they make thousands of dollars on with big companies using their LLMs. Also, there are a lot of different use cases in the development world for LLMs. Also, the point of OpenAI and the major NLP-based-technology companies is to create the technology and make money along the way, until the tech becomes cheaper and they already have more resources to build on it, inshaAllah. People are working on the different architectures of how they make and sort LLMs as well as agentic frameworks that can bring cost down by 85% and still have at least 90% of gpt 4 quality. It's not just about training the models. It's about the engineering of everything to get the highest output for the lowest input. And this is being done. The reason they are spending so much money, is because, once they reach the point of major cost-cuts (due to more efficient agent frame works and more efficient compute), then they will have already been on the top of the hill, inshaAllah. They will zoom away with progress, and no on will be able to catch up, inshaAllah.

[@AIForHumansShow]

yep we mostly agree with this, after all open AI is now making billions (like 3.5 a year) but a lot of this is about how much money will continue to be poured into the ecosystem outside of OpenAI -- like large companies (say Fortune 500 ones) that are trying to figure out if AI can make THEM money and they're spending a ton right now. i think ultimately the huge models will pay off -- it's the middle ground that's a little bit shaky thanks for your thoughful comment!!

[@rlogborn]

new greeting for my friends - 'Hey ya dirty Crust Nuddger'

[@AIForHumansShow]

Fine with us but please don't tell anyone where you heard that term.🤣

[@gavinpurcell]

it's gross and insulting -- win win

[@szebike]

These chatbots are too inaccurate and unreliable to be used in critical systems this won't change in the near future where its currently be used however there is not enough money to be found to justify the current costs its simple as that. The problem is many companies blindly boarded the bandwagon "to not miss this opportunity" not realizing the big limits of what these systems can do and what not. You can't magiclly improve these systems twofold every year its at a complicated software frontier and the current transformer based large language models will still "hallucinate" (outputting nonsense as a legit answer).

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

A SINGLE architectural breakthrough will create an inflection point, let alone all of the brute forcing that's in progress.

[@AIForHumansShow]

yeah we expect there to be some significant shifts over the next few years, especially since SO much money has poured into the world of this stuff

[@TRXST.ISSUES]

@@AIForHumansShow so true. Dubious speculation but I think we'll see something drastic before year's end.

[@destinypuzzanghera3087]

You guys remind me of Han Solo and Luke Skywalker

[@AIForHumansShow]

WAIT ok who is who. Wait, I think I already know. Ok, tell us.

[@gavinpurcell]

I assume that I am Luke and I'm fine with that.

[@hannystudios8209]

making worker-less factories in a country with 1.5 billion people in it, hmm where could that all go wrong lol

[@AIForHumansShow]

yeah this is something that we're not sure has been thought through entirely - especially since factory work was one of the things that brought a lot of those people out of poverty

[@basbekjenl]

A smartphone a minute is just over half a million smartphones per year but their claim shown at 10:48 was they could make 10 million a year so that would be a smartphone every 3 seconds. Either their claim is wrong or you should have said 20 full cell phones every minute in the sentence that followed. I wonder which is true but I'll assume it's 10 million phones a year, which is still probably an overestimation but that's what they claim. Even with 10 million phones sold a year I wonder what the return on investment is, if it will be before those phones are too outdated, like who would buy phones produced 20 years ago and would you be able to sell 10 million a year of them every year at a price that would cover the cost of running that dark factory.

[@AIForHumansShow]

i think the investment is likely in the systems to make the next thing as well -- i would assume this isn't JUST for this specific phone but a more general system that can make whatever the next thing down the line is as well... but you're right - the question will be is how quickly the tech advances + is this dark factory completely out of date within a few years etc

[@BrianThomas]

If robots can make phone's and cars, we can send some to the moon to make a station or to Europa for exploration.

[@AIForHumansShow]

literally a story today about Tesla trying to get their humanoid robot Optimus ready for Mars Missions, it's def coming

[@ferroni3336]

Love your content guys! But please, time stamps!

[@AIForHumansShow]

ok here's something weird -- we DO the whole chapters thing and it stopped showing up in the timeline. look at the description, they're all there. i'm wondering if YT did something weird?

[@ferroni3336]

Oh I didnt see it in the description thnx, but yea, for the past few videos it’s been missing from the time line 🤔🤷

[@AIForHumansShow]

weirdly it's back now?? i have no idea what happened there

[@PhillyHardy]

Wow, buy low, sell high

[@AIForHumansShow]

on what? this channel? good idea

[@CarlosRodela]

you've unleashed the chaos my freaky friends

[@AIForHumansShow]

look we're just here trying to get our eight hours of bread nudging in

[@gavinpurcell]

I'd love to hear that come out of ACTUAL Nic Cage's mouth

[@stevefox7469]

Kevin Scott says "scale up" , I interpret that as bigger datacentres , not better models.

[@AIForHumansShow]

well, in the past he's spoken (we featured him saying this) about the next two cycles that will happen based on scale. and i *think* he's talking about the scale of the models here as well the clip is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4W0iKyjfdVjpJIsi=hbM42ZvxsZLxBZCB

[@stevefox7469]

@AIForHumansShow Interesting clip and fascinating discussion. The key question, for me, is what is the relationship between scaling cost and model improvement. If a model increases in size by 10x and cost to create it by 5x, but only improves the quality of the output by 3%, is that worthwhile? Even if hallucination rates decrease from 5% to 2%, I will still need to manually check the result. Does this justify a 5x price increase for an end user? Probably not. If the model price remains the same, it's beneficial but not game-changing. Keep up the great videos - they're truly thought-provoking!

[@gavinpurcell]

@@stevefox7469 thanks so much for the detailed and great comments!

[@Mooooty]

A fun and interest perspective on AI.

[@AIForHumansShow]

hey thank you!

[@gavinpurcell]

we appreciate this!

[@cmiguel268]

Companies and organisations are very slow to adopt technology. As an example I could tell you that Derby university in the UK is still using windows 10 while I have windows 11 in my laptop. Obsession with data and privacy are driving the slow adoption of technology.

[@AIForHumansShow]

There's so many hurdles in the way of giant corporations using this tech right now so you're absolutely right. But given the current environment where like one bad news story (even about an individual or a small issue) can blow up into a massive stock drop, it's not hard to understand why they move so slow. Universities are often the worst offenders in the slow tech world which is weirdly ironic considering how many students would wanna push forward with it. Thanks for watching & your comment!

[@MrH0tBeats]

Dude Nick Cage avatar is the best. Sounds great. HAHAHAH MORE MOORE MOOORE

[@AIForHumansShow]

hahah we love having fun doing dumb stuff and sometimes it works ok

[@legacylee]

I friggin loved that intro hah, great opening gents, great convo on this era of AI keep up the great reporting sirs.

[@KPer4twenny]

Praise unto Beemop for the fire intro…

[@AIForHumansShow]

thank you and thank beemop king of the intros

[@legacylee]

@@AIForHumansShow real recognizes real, factual facts

[@ssekagratius2danime369]

Your video looks clean like kinda minimal, i like the style you deserve a like

[@AIForHumansShow]

we aim for clean look, stupid yet somehow informative content welcome

[@gavinpurcell]

hey we'll take it

[@chrisrogers1092]

Kevin the ring light in the center of your eyes makes them look extra creepy

[@KPer4twenny]

A highlight in the soulless void…

[@NakedSageAstrology]

I personally disagree. I think we are about to hit a major breakthrough in a.i come July 22nd. I am loving Claude 3.5 Sonnet, I have built several applications using it's new artifact features, it even built me a fully working remote desktop which I can access via a web browser anywhere. A.i can do amazing things, the problem is that people want the credit, and feel too embarrassed to say a.i did the work. For example, I had chatgpt and Claude go back and forth to write and self critique a scifi called "Mirrors of the Mind", and it is the BEST scifi i have ever read! I forgot to mention, chatgpt makes ALL of my videos and even generates the prompts for the images and image to video.

[@AIForHumansShow]

we don't really think it's dead at all -- mostly we agree with Microsoft's Kevin Scott in the video the hard part is just how much money has been pouring into this, it's all a business issue and returns on investments. the internet tech kept getting better even after the dot com crash right?

[@kirtjames1353]

Nice! Great comment. 👍

[@generichuman_]

July 22nd? That's oddly specific. Do you know something we don't?

[@NakedSageAstrology]

@@AIForHumansShow The problem is that in general shareholders are airheads without much knowledge, but with a large inheritance to invest. Now they are starting to realize that with automation, comes the destruction of their way of life. Capitalism cannot and will not survive automation.

[@gavinpurcell]

@@NakedSageAstrology we're going to be entering such a fascinating time when it comes to economics over the next 20 years -- I hope the world can withstand the change in systems

[@NA18NA]

Bread-nudging! 😂 Subscribed!

[@gavinpurcell]

hey tysm -- if you like bread-nudging there is a LOT for you here

[@AIForHumansShow]

WELCOME

[@typingcat]

I want to get away from the touch of the society, but I can't, damn it. If I only had a small house in the middle of nowhere...

[@lovesunset1703]

omg dreamflare is such a good idea

[@AIForHumansShow]

it's pretty interesting -- especially when it comes to the choose your own adventure content

[@NoidoDev]

Idk, it's going to be difficult to get people switch to another platform. Even for KZbin channels which are being censored, it's difficult to get people moving to Rumble. That's it I think platforms like Suno should become streaming platforms, with premium accounts for people who mostly listen to music. The same might work for video at some point.

[@Glowbox3D]

Always fun.

[@AIForHumansShow]

tysm for the sweet engagement

[@gavinpurcell]

thank you!

[@harryjones5260]

cgi used to be so impressive, now everyone can do it, its a 'familiarity breeds indifference' scenario. the waffly unbroken narrations, padded out with unnecessary words and not possessing the usual human rhythm and pauses has quickly become very tiresome.

[@AIForHumansShow]

are you talking about a) us the hosts acting this way or b) our AI co-host or c) the general idea of CGI??

[@manzell]

If you can't see the economic potential of AI, you've got your eyes closed. Self-Driving (including, eventually, trucking) has the potential to save 10s of thousands of lives per year, drive more fuel efficiently*, and eliminate a middleman between producers and consumers. If you can't see that Middle Schoolers are going to be able to produce compelling short films by like, 2030, you've got your eyes closed. The future is coming down the tunnel, it wasn't painted on the cliff wall by the road runner!

[@AIForHumansShow]

honestly really pretty freaking excited for a world where an individual can make a really compelling film -- think we're going to see some crazy creative work

[@NoCodeFilmmaker]

All joking aside, a crust nudger game would actually be a great fidget game for mobile. I might start working on that today 😂

[@AIForHumansShow]

omg pls do we want to play it very, very much

[@justin..1262]

Apple definitely confetti bombed Kevin. That’s considered good luck in some cultures. 😂😂

[@KPer4twenny]

hahaha. the other day i scratched my shoulder on a video call while discussing a friend's unfortunate medical diagnosis; apple popped a big 'ol thumbs-up bubble on the screen... that was, nice.

[@AIForHumansShow]

It's just the robots trying to send us a message

[@justin..1262]

@@KPer4twenny Yikes-another awkward moment brought to you by unnecessary AI capabilities no one asked for. What they need is an AI feature where I can flip a flock of little birds across the screen-all the pun intended. And yes, it’s a safe-for-work feature!

[@justin..1262]

@@AIForHumansShow What’s the message, you were chosen by Skynet? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?🤔🤫😂

[@gavinpurcell]

@@justin..1262 look we're just happy they're aware of us

[@Zilero]

long-time watcher, short-time AI user. i was wondering what a good model would be to generate graphics for a fun interactive progress tracker (think constantly evolving variations of the Dominos pizza tracker) that i can generate using plain language. all the models i’ve played with have been bad generating graphics and text consistently. any suggestions would be much appreciated : ) PS always free to nudge some bread, guys!

[@AIForHumansShow]

Have you tried Ideogram? That one is specifically decent at text but all of them will have *some* issues. ideogram.ai/t/explore

[@deepwubbinz7919]

What is kevin's real hair color, the hair on his head or his eyebrows?

[@KPer4twenny]

Keep ‘em guessing…

[@AIForHumansShow]

never be the same - lao tzu

[@DaRealDJ]

Curious if you all had Nic Cage voice samples or used a pre-made version of his voice.

[@AIForHumansShow]

made a quickie version with random samples

[@KPer4twenny]

@@AIForHumansShowand full permission from the estate… or something. 😅

[@joemondello4312]

Why did OpenAI leave China? Leopold's 160+ page "Situational Awareness" paper and bringing Nakasone (the retired NSA guy) onto the board perhaps?

[@AIForHumansShow]

The NSA thing I bet is a massive part of it -- that's kind of what we were alluding to in our convo about the political issues they're grappling with. And yeah that paper was fascinating we dove into it a few episodes back... kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqi5h5aCmZasbdk

[@sephirothcloud3953]

Who says hype, fail, bubble, don't understand how ai model works. good for us, lets get rich

[@AIForHumansShow]

agree -- it's not really about the investment for those of us who can make use of these things over time, single person start-ups going to go crazy

[@sephirothcloud3953]

@@AIForHumansShow I am a single person start up indeed, I'm making a videogame doing things that was impossible or extremely expensive just 6 months ago, I'm doing the work of 20 people alone

[@KPer4twenny]

@@sephirothcloud3953 does it, by any chance, involve nudging -- or crust?

[@sephirothcloud3953]

@@KPer4twenny no just simple generative ai in action

[@AIForHumansShow]

love to hear it, but also take a look at a Bread Nudging game might be extremely profitable

[@meandego]

AI mostly works as a useless content generator. People are generating copies of snake games or useless images, which 99% will be seen by one person only. AI is just a perfect energy and money wasting machine.

[@AIForHumansShow]

there's actually a ton of other usecases for AI: -- discovering new drugs and simulating new proteins (these are already being done at Google) -- simulating weather to help people avoid natural disasters -- driving humanoid robots that might actually take care of you (or your parents) one day don't believe the people who tell you that AI is just content generation, it's doing a LOT more. yes, it makes content (some of which is useless) but it can make a huge impact on the world at large and already is

[@meandego]

@AIForHumansShow results of those use cases will cost you a lot of money, which will go to mega corporations to pay mega bribes to politicians to avoid mega taxes.

[@AIForHumansShow]

well.... i don't fully disagree with you there and ofc the system is overall not great in this world but you can't say that these things won't make major differences in the world ai is literally helping doctors find & diagnose cancer abcnews.go.com/Health/ai-detect-treat-cancer-potential-risks-patients/story?id=101431628

[@meandego]

@AIForHumansShow cancer medicine will be just a new item on the patient shopping list. The pharmaceutical industry will be the real winner. No doubt AI will help to create new products and services, but those products and services will not have a significant positive impact on our life quality. Same greedy people create new AI products based on the same old exploitation ideas, that's why significant increase in life quality for majority is impossible.

[@Solbrick]

Huge update: Ai will be amazing when it comes!

[@AIForHumansShow]

Hahaha we get the drips and we will like it

[@kevinnugent6530]

"Can we get a robit hand...?" Robit? Are you the dad from the goldberg show?

[@AIForHumansShow]

tbh i wouldn't be surprised if he was

[@antonpictures]

pls talk multimodal robotics NVIDIA Jetson Orin Next-level AI performance for next-gen robotics and edge solutions. and Go2 Robot Dog Quadruped Robotics for Adults

[@AIForHumansShow]

we've talked about a ton of robot stuff but it might be good for us to do a robot-specific video -- thanks for the idea!!

[@BitBlink]

I’ll sustain my diamond hands over my Nvidia stock. 😊

[@AIForHumansShow]

hahaha well who knows what the stock market does but seriously if you bought even a year ago, you're doing just fine

[@KiloOscarZulu]

Gavin used to work as a box fiddler at a box factory?

[@AIForHumansShow]

watch your mouth... it's box *placement expert*

[@agnesslovehealz]

Loved this style news beginning super awsome "my freaky friends " lol 😂

[@AIForHumansShow]

haha tysm as per usual

[@tantrumreign]

4:00 lol

[@AIForHumansShow]

never know what those weird Apple reax will do until they happen

[@ilevakam316]

I use AI every day, its great. But it is overhyped and over funded.

[@AIForHumansShow]

my biggest question is... what does overfunded mean in this case? are there too many BS companies trying to raise based on what are essentially wrappers? for sure. but anthropic and openAI's stuff in INSANELY expensive and if they do get it AGI will pay off

[@ilevakam316]

@@AIForHumansShow You have large amounts of money flowing into the large companies (NVDA, MS, Apple) for the perceived value that AI will bring. Objectively, AI is not bringing that value in dollar terms. Companies are not generating 500 billion + of profit that can be attributed to AI or adoption. Will this happen in the future? Maybe, but there are few examples of anything that could produce that amount of value. Additionally, VCs are handing out money to companies with zero product and zero revenue/profit. OpenAI and Anthropic are loosing propositions, meaning they are not profitable. If this was the Oil or Railroad industry could companies with similar dynamic survive?

[@brainwithani5693]

"AI IS DEAD"... READING THIS WHILE USING AI...

[@AIForHumansShow]

hahaha well perfectly set up for the future

[@brainwithani5693]

@@AIForHumansShow I enjoyed the video, good observations

[@AIForHumansShow]

tysm

[@adolphgracius9996]

"Internet is a bubble" internet isn't generating any value

[@AIForHumansShow]

because we're old, we remember the time from say like 2001 to 2004 where it was like the 'the bubble has popped' times -- but even during then it was clear that amazon and ebay and even craigslist were doing huge things but def a lot of investors lost a ton of money -- that's all this is, it's a temporary money convo. the innovation will continue

[@adolphgracius9996]

@AIForHumansShow Tech goes from new to popular, then baseline. If it survives, people can't imagine life without it.

[@ALFTHADRADDAD]

Ai Nic Cage is based

[@AIForHumansShow]

He's ready to take over at a moment's notice... LETS RIDE

[@ScottBradley-gn2rd]

Take God AI is dead. Now I can relax and go to sleep now.

[@AIForHumansShow]

get some country time lemonade and just lounge in the hammock

[@gavinpurcell]

same

[@bdown]

Sep 16th will change ai as we know it

[@AIForHumansShow]

oh tell us more - are you a soothsayer? or...

[@EarthCreature.]

OpenAI will likely bring a meaningful A.I. use but there's really no pragmatic use cases for it yet

[@AIForHumansShow]

like we said in the video, i do think search is going to get completely eaten by it. for now, it still makes mistakes but when it works it's crazy magical. this, of course, screws up the entire internet economy as it exists now

[@EdGregor]

“Bravo to all the Chinese AI companies though”?!?!? Seriously? Pro-CCP tech bros? I don’t get it.

[@AIForHumansShow]

I mean, def not pro CCP but we're here for humans getting access to tools that will help them understand the future.

[@KPer4twenny]

I think you missed the vibe check on this one, or must be new to our cast? I wouldn’t say that has ever been our take…

[@NoidoDev]

Competition will help everyone. And it will help to prevent overregulation.

[@madelinechung]

Did you see the crowned a Miss AI?

[@AIForHumansShow]

Hahaha no. got a link?

[@bhavtosh5328]

Greetings from India 🙏🙏🙏

[@AIForHumansShow]

Ayeee we love India. I (Gavin) went like 25 years ago, wanna get back. Bangalore was starting to be a crazy tech hub back then. Bet it’s even more insane now.

[@bhavtosh5328]

@@AIForHumansShow You are most welcome.

[@alvigelagan9828]

The dude on the right part of the screen is an ai generated. He looks too unreal.

[@AIForHumansShow]

you found us out -- he's as AI as they come

[@gavinpurcell]

I AM A REAL HUMAN BOY

[@mrd6869]

Sam Altman will decide whats 'alive or what's dead. Everyone else will be ready with those credit card numbers, when he says to line up🤣 I believe they have something in their labs that is EXTREMELY advanced, OpenAi just doesn't want to scare you just yet. They drop Gpt5 today every last one of you would be hysterical. So they're are doing it slowly.

[@AIForHumansShow]

yeah so we're pretty much on the same train as you are here BUT OpenAI is gonna have a lot of problems dropping stuff now because of all the scrutiny over time. but clearly they have a TON of stuff going on behind the scenes

[@mrd6869]

@@AIForHumansShow .They have the iPhone 30 back there...put it that way lmao..However they have deep government connections at this point.they will be fine I'm sure.

[@AIForHumansShow]

haha yeah for sure

[@canUfeelMYface]

Dead thing died?

[@AIForHumansShow]

uh what is dead never dies?

[@canUfeelMYface]

Yours is much better than mine. :)

[@FriscoFatseas]

Open AI *poke* do something LOL

[@AIForHumansShow]

There's got to be *something* dropping soon. But then again, they are getting nationalized behind the scenes probably. They got fully "governmented".

[@FriscoFatseas]

@@AIForHumansShow I need to infiltrate behind the scenes 🤣

[@sircasino614]

Dumb click bait. Ai is the future in every aspect and can't be stopped.

[@AIForHumansShow]

sir pls watch video -- you will understand

[@carultch]

It can be stopped. All you need to do is pull the plug.

[@sircasino614]

​@@carultchHow's that? I'm running chatbots and image generators locally. You can destroy the internet and it's still here.

[@taomaster2486]

F your clickbait

[@AIForHumansShow]

sir... this is not clickbait, we are an AI channel and we talk quite a bit about it in this episode. the idea that AI is dead is driven by this new Goldman Sachs report that we dive into for quite a bit.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

The founders told you to maximize benefits of atoms we all work with we must interpret them radically differently thus ( customers always right !) That the triality of self individual liberal power comes with great responsibilities! Physicalism is subject to change without further notice thus ( strong moral laws) you must mature and self govern family, neighbors to neighbors etc etc. Everything physicalism, eqaul class and all granted deterministic simplicity and unification pushing the infinite sums of complexity upon personal actors was always wrong @! Shining capital on the hill = metamorphosis in reverse textualism methodology objectivism = material sciences abilities loaded in every gun on every individuals hip. Triangulate free will inertia in our frame of reference . Judge thermodynamical systems that sets our moral law and markets It's no doubt 1945s Smith_mundt act European solutions babylonian evolutionary cosmogony Is the current problem it destroyed our common sense objectivism proper. Censorship of all things pragmatic

[@AIForHumansShow]

👀

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@AIForHumansShow lol They knew it was going to get weird when material sciences loaded our guns with whatever nature permits, haha ..1900s structuralism sure worked hard against it . Good achievement, terrible levels of maturity and education

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@AIForHumansShow We can rebuild shilvery and respect in society. .everything physicalism for 90 yrs deterministic simplicity and unification pushed complexity into our likeminded word and context while tried European solutions 1945s Smith_mundt act that political order of prayer logic whataboutism conservatism vs cursed rationalism progressive interventionism while censorship of all things common sense pragmatic objectivism proper. Back to the triality of self individual liberalism

[@khronos142]

you dont even know what machine learning is!

[@gavinpurcell]

hey we try to -- and def have significantly learned more about ML over the year+ we've been doing this... why do you think we don't?

[@AIForHumansShow]

we're just out here trying to make some interesting stuff and inform people

[@alexadigitalradio]

Just came to type the word “clickbait”. No need to watch this… bye.

[@AIForHumansShow]

wait what are you talking about -- there's a huge difference between clickbait and understanding the tone and voice of the show if you want the conversation (right at the top!) you'd get it

[@KPer4twenny]

So cool! Just came to thank you for your service. #bigoof

[@fertilizerspike]

Happy and angry are not antonyms

[@AIForHumansShow]

true. we screwed up.