"ai is going to destroy 3d artists"

[@renderer]

**UPDATE** Sora was announced right after this video went up; here's my thoughts: So far, Sora seems like an excellent tool for replacing stock video. I think we must assume that it'll get to the point where it will be able to do 3D render-styled videos of products or other things that I cover on this channel. We don't know when Sora will be available, but it will likely get a lot better very quickly. Without a doubt, people on a budget will opt for AI-generated work, the same way ChatGPT is being used for copywriting on a budget too. Although just like I said in the video, whatever the masses have access to will quickly become devalued and cheap. If everybody can write the best copy, then nobody can write the best copy. There will always be an option to be one step ahead. This is assuming we don't get to the point where these things are freely thinking and walking around on public sidewalks with us. Also just to put it out there so I can say I was right (and I'm sure I'm not the first person to guess this), but with the amount of misinformation and deepfakes that are bound to flood the internet soon, it seems almost certain that some new form of "verification" will become mainstream for authenticating videos, whether it's blockchain-related or not. There HAS to be a solution to this because AI generating realistic videos using anybody's likeness (including world leaders and celebrities) poses a major threat to literally everything. ***SO WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?*** Obviously, this is my opinion; this is speculative. But my personal advice is NOT to panic and immediately delete Blender. Instead, just try to network and get as many clients as possible. There's no way that it could possibly be bad to meet people, gain skills that involve selling services, and practicing communicating articulately. The future is too uncertain to make any drastic moves like quitting 3D in search of something "irreplaceable". With the Tesla robot that can walk, fold clothes, and cook, even in its infancy; it now seems that just about every occupation in existence is threatened by AI to some degree. Don't panic, stay on top of things, and focus on personal growth and enjoying your life.

[@chouravemac4618]

thanks, i really needed to hear that

[@bpadboy]

thanks

[@mariomills]

I was learning 3d traditional way, but I saw the writing on the wall months ago and have jumped ship

[@higorss]

@@mariomills huh?

[@Walm89]

I really wish we had autonomous retopo and weight-painting tools. Yeah, I've used Quad Remesher, but it is not good, especially for meshes that'll be animated. I'm not sure why we're trying to automate the fun part first.

[@jumpy2783]

Quad remesher is so ass man 😭, I tried using it today on this skeleton character, it RUINED the mesh toward the center. And when I tried going back a ton to before I did it, it was too far ahead. I redid the upper skull At least I learned that you could change how much undos you can do 😂

[@robertmcdougall1144]

Money, that's why.

[@robertmcdougall1144]

@ddontyy It threatening more than 2d concept artists at the moment. Programmers are on the chopping block now.

[@jumpy2783]

@@robertmcdougall1144 Quite literally every profession, name one and I swear either AI or machinery can do it. Nonetheless, take not my words as words of depression, rather unification since we are all subject to the same dangers.

[@grib3718]

Because companies want to establish a monopoly and feed you with shit

[@AD-Dom]

Ai ‘art’ is built off of 10000’s of artists and photographers works. It’s not special. Real artists are incredible they bring the secret sauce to a look. It’s good to keep up on watching it. But it’s not an art form, it’s a bastardized format with a person writing weird commands. It’s always more impressive seeing a person create something from scratch than an algorithm doing 99% of the ‘work’.

[@Mr.Motion.]

But, bro let me ask you one thing. You also see 100 different arts and designs and then come up with the concept?

[@king_koby9591]

​@@Mr.Motion. I agree with the original post but I don't understand your question

[@Mr.Motion.]

@@king_koby9591 I am saying that designing something always involves taking inspiration from the other art and designs. There are very few art pieces that are original. Rest all are copied (inspired). So, this is what AI does, it sees 1000s of art pieces and then comes up with the idea. But if you can create something unique then there are always opportunities for you.

[@Beanskiiii]

Not a single business cares

[@Abby-ug4xc]

@@Mr.Motion. I always see people say this, that ai "takes inspiration" like human artists do and it does not at all. I suppose it's the branding that it's some kind of artificial intelligence instead of the pattern generating software it is? Generators amalgamate common pixel patterns into a smooth samey-looking nonsensical image. Or rough ugly mesh. But artists can critically think about the function of one thing and transfer it to another. Artists can take inspiration from real life and communicate non-tangible concepts visually. Humans can take directions from other humans. It would actually take far less time to tell a person to tweak certain details than to use paragraphs of text to try to get small details. For many things you can build on existing models, and make them functional to animate. Ai is honestly just a waste of time for anything that isn't exceedingly basic, nonfunctional (and probably ugly)

[@akaplunder6576]

there is actually no need to worry. This is how my professor put it-" AI is not artistically industrialized and it will never before the next 5 to 10 years, this is because even though it can generate 3D models it cannot create a 3D model which can be used in a pipeline, example bad topology, variable topology for variable animation techniques, it cannot be used on a industry level pipeline, it will stay as a tool only, when toy story came out, everybody freaked out, there is no need of 2d animators anymore, but now if we see the industry, everything is used for a better product, the same will happen to AI" That's for 3d models and simulations, this community is about product viz, small businesses may use ai "artists" but the big ones will still stay with real artists as those industries use a working pipeline. Just like renderer said if u have connections you are probably ok in the product viz community, the entry level artists in a few years may see some trouble getting into the industry but there is always infinite ways to make money if u understand marketing.

[@renderer]

Couldn't agree more, great comment

[@funnybunny1408]

True and I'm a new in this 3d industry it's freaking me out

[@ApexSportsbooks]

professor clearly doesn't know what he is talking about, besides why would you take advice from him of the state of AI when He doesn't know much about it, this is all just wishful thinking, you do realise this is not linear rate of progression, it will be less than 2 year that things will be already insane, SORA Open AI's new model already proved this

[@akaplunder6576]

@@ApexSportsbooks until sora came into the scene all video generators were almost rudimentary with noise problems and even sora is not usable in productions(except stock footage), well all I'd say now is product animation will be in danger in few months

[@ApexSportsbooks]

@@akaplunder6576 not long before there are applications in rendering

[@zoltanf86]

What often people not realise is that, in any AI generated images the "creator" is not in control or extremely vaguely. If I go to a restaurant and order something from the menu, even if I customise it, I won't have anything to do with the outcome, I'm not the chef. Also even if the quality gets better, for professional work where clients have feedbacks or specific requirements any AI image generator is pretty much useless.

[@SurrogateActivities]

give it a few years

[@bUildYT]

u nailed the problem even tho u didnt understood it lol: our main problem is that our skills and work will loose in value, slowly we will earn less money cause competition rises cause suddenly everybody can do what we can, so even if it gets oversaturated and people will stop using promt 3D rendering those who do it the good old honest way wont find any attraction neither... im doing 3D since around 2 years now and i get better and better but i also get angrier and angrier about all those idiots welcoming Ai so openly, thats so messed up "heuhh im a non talented average pos and cause i dont want talented people to be special i push Ai so their work is worthless" hopefully soon a lot of people will loose their jobs so they get angry too and it cant get developped any further, dont get me wrong tho, Ai is the future and id be more than happy if it calculates how we get to mars or how we cure cancer, but it shall not teckle art, art and religion should be left to humans...

[@goldbrick2563]

Eh even if 3D art is democratized so that the average non-technical person may be able to grasp it and produce something and therefore compete with you in the marketplace of 3d artists...that person still needs to have a creative vision. You cannot democratize, you cannot 'AI' creative vision. You have it or you don't. And if you don't have good taste, your art will not be saleable no matter how many ai tools available for a person to utilize

[@bUildYT]

@@goldbrick2563 i kina have to disagree, the most average non art person can go into cinema and "say wow that looks amazing" or "meh that looks bad" imagine in 10 years u can simply write a promt "ironman fights jack sparrow with lightsabers on the enterprise, cinematic, 40sec. video, 4k, epic music, epic lighting, space background" and than it comes up with 4 suggestive videos wich u can click and develop further, long term wise most jobs r screwed, time crushes most arguments, i think in 50 years, political speaches, doctors, laywers, art, teachers and most other jobs and things we do, everybody else will be able to do everything else as well, imagine 8bio. people being equaly skilled and talented, damn the longer u think about it the more depressing it gets lol...

[@robertmcdougall1144]

@@goldbrick2563 Every one got a creative vision... that not the issue. The issue here is being able to have the skill to realise this vision. That literally the whole point of commissioning an artist in the first place. The non-artist has the a vision in which they discuss with the hired artist. It the artist job to realise this vision as close to what the customer wants using their skill and style that have developed over the years. Ai completely skirts this relationship with the potential of actually ripping others artist work as they mesh many art together in a database to varying degrees...destroying the need for a artist...hence the title of the video.

[@bUildYT]

@@robertmcdougall1144 yea thats a good take, but it gets worse: what bothers me the most is that people dont even need the vision in their mind anymore, have u seen these Ai images of "make the happiest bunny ever" or "make the most expensive pancake ever" the person asking has no vision, completely grey mind, its the Ai that comes up with diamonds, gold, space, 4dimensional bunny being, (that was discussed in joe rogan podcast...) Long termwise humans might not even be able to say what they want, computers just will feed them with what ever they calculate will bring the highest dopamine lvl... Or in ur example, company xy usually would hire several people for marketing and they would hire a few artists that can visualize the marketing concept, now its enough if a few people sit around a desk, askin Ai how to make more sells and than watching it gathering customers over social media with generated attacking videos, thats so grrrrr

[@mariomills]

No not everyone has same level of artistic vision. Sure the visuals will look good, but there are other ways to differentiate your work such as story telling, pacing, choice of colors compositions, etc

[@gemo8]

Yea... my 50 hours work just got replaced with a midjourney render.

[@lonesomealeks4206]

What kind of work do you do? - I occasionally accept 3D modelling commissions as a freelancer. Mostly models that require precise measurements for 3D printing. So far AI is only a real challenge for NSFW artists lul

[@gemo8]

@@lonesomealeks4206 I am a fresh 3D generalist and this job im talking about was a render for a commercial.

[@humanharddrive1]

What job?

[@velRic]

acctually some AI tools allows to do a retouch of the image. I've already improved my logos in a few minutes

[@gemo8]

@@humanharddrive1 3D generalist

[@TechDoms]

your channel is gonna blow up bro! Keep going

[@dmigul]

I have been pointing this idea for over an year to my concerned coworkers - that AI won't replace us in a pipeline, you'll just be expected to provide 10x more result. I have seen what happened with concept art in a gamedev - nowadays self-hosted stable diffusion or midjourney almost completely covers necessity for a dedicated artist. I'm pretty sure that sculpting would be the next specialization under a threat. With all of that, you still need someone to operate over AI tools and it's better be someone who knows that their are doing. Generally speaking, the only way to save yourself from being excluded from a workflow is to become a workflow keeper yourself. Art-direction, managing, quality control. I personally niched in a runtime 3d - gamedev, VR and such. This areas are usually very performance demanding and you can't get away with just modeling or just texturing - you have to get on a lower technical level, with creating custom shaders, counting your drawcalls, making a smart workarounds for a really weak hardware such as nintendo switch and low-end android phones. These are the operations which don't have consistent training data (at least yet) and you can't just feed a neural network in an attempt to automatize optimization as a whole.

[@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo]

If you think optimization is what is saving you from being replaced by AI you must be kidding yourself. You think AI is not going to be able to analyze the scene and replace assets to achieve optimal performance? It's already doing that for you, by providing the necesary information for you to make that call, and it won't be long before it will make that call for you. It's not just about 3D artists, almost every job in the world that mainly requires software skills will go bust.

[@dmigul]

@@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo It might not have been obvious from what I wrote but I'm not planning to outrun the beast - just not be the slowest one to be eaten. What you are describing is valid and to be fair I actually would like most of the tedious tasks to be automated, because someone has to do it anyways - be it an employee, some script or in the worst scenario me myself. My strat remains valid only for the next two years or so. We'll se that would be the next. But judging by the quality and quantity of gamedev assets publications in a last year I wouldn't say that AI has fundamentally changed the production value in this industry (at least indie scale). It's still a lot of dirty manual work to be done.

[@Dave102693]

Lmfao go back to clay sculpting if you believe this

[@cg_igris]

Just saw a video about Luma AI, thanks to you i stopped tweaking 😂

[@Abby-ug4xc]

Agree with the first half of the video, but for that reason I don't believe learning ai 'prompting' has long term value. The guys who mostly use ai will be left behind because as the software becomes easier for everyone, it'll be valueless. It already looks cheap. Why pay someone to prompt something for you when you can do it yourself? What has value is real skills and the ability to use creative thinking to bring someone's vision to life in a way that intelligently fits with their brand. Logo generators have existed for like 10 years and yet there are still logo-specific designers out there, showing their process and explaining why they made the choices they did.

[@renderer]

Yeah I agree. These cheap tools will be adopted by the masses and the people with higher budgets will always find a way to stand out. Whether that involves traditional 3D rendering skills will be revealed in time.

[@Chillfolio]

Smart words bro. Had a lot of troubles with all the new ai tools coming up in a phase of my life were business didnt work as good. It frightene me an thought of beeing replaced were huge. Now I am over it in every aspect and try to adapt and bring new tools into my workflow which can be a lot of fun :)

[@arkos55252]

Its just begining...

[@ViewDarshan]

I've been in the industry since 2008, was a freelancer first and then built up a company of my own and so on and so forth. Back in 2008, I wanted to be the guy what you are and I am kinda out of the social media game and all. The reason why I am stating all this is - Please continue what you are doing. You have no idea how many lives you are inspiring, coz 3D Artists need to listen to the practical aspects of life to stay in their best forms. You are doing a great job. I have subscribed to your channel. Please let me know if I can be helpful in any ways. RESPECT!!

[@renderer]

Thanks so much for the nice comment! I'm so glad you're finding value in these vids

[@ferdinandkasangati5089]

Hey renderer, just discovered your channel and I really enjoyed your content as a 3d artist myself i was kind of worried about the Ai trend since wherever I go, AI is already there offering some random services and yet, no 3d artists are worried i don't know why? cause the 2D field is already suffering.

[@adriancobaschi8510]

Nice to see your take on this man, some solid points made

[@khd1851]

I believe with virtual reality there will be more demand for 3D artists 🤷🏻

[@ifroxxx1226]

It would be great if you could make a video on how to build the kind of network you refered to at the end of the video. Are you mainly refering to relationships with clients or other Freelancers? Where do you start and how do you develop longlasting relationships beyond one time hires. 🙏

[@renderer]

Most of my channel is about that, specifically this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYWrlKxumpqSopIsi=WqtUOJwRyTMTim_j

[@GlitchingMind]

if you think about the natural progression multiple government around the world are restricting ai someway or other. if or when Ai gets to a stage where it can create 3D art better than 3D artist then it is likely that it will also be at a stage where it would be able to replace most other jobs in internet space and a most of jobs in real life. So if the government does not do something about it Then around half or even more people would be sinking with you.

[@r1pperuk]

The problem with Ai is it is actaully really bad at creating something exactly. Its ok at wiffing close or giving a generalised idea but when you need to refine the idea and do something very specific it always fails. So we are safe for now and Ai seems to be getting worse! Double bonus.

[@SurrogateActivities]

Looked at OpenAI Sora videos today. Here's what i think now we are misunderstanding or dont want to understand how ai development works. imagine people have been using ai for 3d somewhat commonly for a year now. Why would whoever search for a regular 3d guy to make work that looks amateurish and/or has detail that make sense if they can just ask their ai (that they are already working with) to make their 3d look like that and have that detail. Can you imagine yourself working on 3d for the rest of your life? Either civilization will collapse or most digital work will be solved in literally the next few years. If it's the latter outcome, then your job may be something like an electrician. And if you're going to end up with that job anyway, why not start now and gain skills for the future? Think any ai issue that you can come up with and it can be answered with "give it a few years". Even if the issue of "ai spew"/"suggestion of something" persists somehow, does it really matter commercially? It's hard to notice and people don't really care. A few loud people do but they are not the market

[@renderer]

I see what youre saying but the Tesla robot is being trained to cook, fold clothes, etc. and seems very capable of many manufacturing jobs and other trades. I don't believe now is the best time to panic and abandon the skill that pays my bills. I agree that it's not a bad idea to diversify your skills, but this isn't going to happen overnight. If 3D artists truly are done for, it will happen over time. We shall see how this plays out

[@SurrogateActivities]

@@renderer Robots doing plumbing may come in a 2-3 decades at best, if ever. AI is just gpus essentially, but a robot is gpu + many kilograms of iron that need to be precise and in working order Yeah if your work pays, obviously there's not reason to stop. But the kids that are learning digital work are doomed

[@1thirdart]

That's a cool way of looking at it...

[@marshallwaters]

Love this video. As someone who has done filmmaking and creative work for most of my life, I love learning to work with the times and to try to see what opportunities AI and such bring. Thanks for making great content! edit: any tool suggestions for blender? I am a new user and am curious on if there are things that could help with going through the learning curve.

[@renderer]

Hey, glad you enjoyed! For AI addons, I recommend checking out Dream Textures, and Blender Co-Pilot. Also, ChatGPT can do quite a bit when it comes to scripting in Blender

[@lazybeaver2447]

it's novel, it is just a tool, it will not replace anyone with due diligence. It will thin the herd for who either can't use it well, refuses to use it. It won't replace anyone who didn't have a shot to begin with. Best case scenario, the novelty dies out and like Renderer says, the trend will move on.

[@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo]

have you changed your opinion at all now that SORA model was announced?

[@renderer]

Check the pinned comment for an update about that!

[@mikerspidey]

Thank you so much for your inputs and sharing your thoughts Spencer. However, it would be ideal if you would use a microphone to increase audio quality as it can be hard to hear you sometimes. Thanks again dude!

[@renderer]

I have a Shure SM7B on the way right now haha

[@mogulart]

people talking about ai are the same who got into forex, nft, crypto, its just a trend, only the people on top are making money

[@renderer]

Yeah, although I think AI will arguably be bigger. I, for one, am a regular ChatGPT user. It's wildly helpful when troubleshooting issues, writing (or summarizing), and brainstorming ideas. I don't think AI is as faddish as the other things you mentioned which is why I think it is a genuine threat to life as we know it. Lots of people in marketing are using AI like crazy right now. I just think as the masses adopt it, the general standards will raise. Everything that humans apply value to run on scarcity; clothes, money, art, etc. The moment everyone has something, it's not desirable anymore and I think that's where human artists will find a way to prevail.

[@steve00alt70]

2D traditional drawing will survive

[@MrAnperm]

Had you seen Sora when you made this video?

[@renderer]

Sora was not out at the time, check description

[@burd7455]

I use AI to subtly enhance my renders, like adding imperfections.

[@brobocops]

With Midjourney?

[@Maarten-Nauta]

Cant agree more

[@AB-mv1mb]

AI cannot be creative. Your prompts need to be in such a way that it could create something out of the box. So as a 3d designer you can just start giving clients AI generated content at lower costs because it's gonna get the 15 days of work done in 15 minutes. And there will be clients who need very specific level tweaking who would always opt for human generated content rather than AI.

[@KunalSankheCuts]

Hello, I have been watching all your videos, they add a lot of value❤ Thank you for that I’d like to know what’s the best PC Specifications for someone who wants to start as a 3D Artist ???? Please do make a video regarding this, maybe tour of your PC? Thank you in advance ❤

[@renderer]

Thanks for the recommendation! I don't think that kind of content fits into my channel's niche very well so I don't plan to make a video covering that anytime soon, but you can find the specs of my PC in the description! Overall, depending on your budget, I'd aim for at least 16GB RAM, at least 8GB VRAM (think nvidia 3070 and better), and most modern "gaming" CPUs with at least 6 cores. You can get by with less, but generally I'd just aim for a mid-to-high-end gaming PC and that should cover your bases alright. Thanks for watching!

[@ped-away-g1396]

my take is, everyone is overestimating this AI tech by a large margin.

[@daijodan]

A few aspects of AI are a huge bummer to me. You see so many aspiring artists now making comments about their aspirations being crushed. How many people will just opt not pursue the arts now since they don't see it as a viable path in life? With an oversaturation of AI art will new artists study the work of AI more than that of the masters? The AI work we're seeing also wouldn't even exist on this level if the hard work of so many individuals wasn't fed into it without their consent. I've seen many comments that AI works just like we do, taking inspiration from other works to produce our own. Ok, but artists do this in order to build their own skill, eventually culminating in an ability to express themselves at a higher level. If that level of study begins to appear pointless with AI becoming more and more advanced over time, will human artists actually become less skilled on average? It seems similar to how the average IQ in the west is dropping as our dependance on technology grows. It seems entirely possible that the same could happen to artists, if it isn't already.

[@renderer]

Yeah it's really sad. The more I think about it, the development of AI seems to have way more negatives than positives.

[@mariomills]

And where did all the artists of today get their inspiration from? The artists from previous generations and so on....no one owns art, it's a collective thing

[@ocdvfx]

The data ai outputs is consistently wrong inaccurate with the illusion of realism. Sure this will get better with time, but if you would like to truly manipulate the data, you will have a harder time doing so with AI. I think everyone should learn how to utilize ai in their workflow to one extent or another. But to produce a final image from start to finish?? You are going to have a harder time art directing it and truly controlling the output, especially accurately. It'll never replace the authenticity of an artist

[@Leukick]

UPDATE: Just today I saw that ai can now do VERY VERY realistic video.... Is it over? If not, what are things we can still do as creators

[@renderer]

Wrote my thoughts in the description

[@anubismacc8165]

AI Image generation should be banned, not AI entirely, but at least Image generation

[@Abby-ug4xc]

Yup. Currently it's based off theft Nothing could be generated without training off of millions of images or models It would be useless software without artists' & designers hard work

[@ILLRICARDO]

I feel that ai is in its infancy, but give it time and it will rival human artists.

[@renderer]

No doubt

[@zedeon6299]

It's over

[@renderer]

not quite

[@GlynRyles]

AI is just a tool, use it wisely in your work to enhance your work

[@Willopo100]

Sora out today. how u feel.... lol

[@renderer]

Wrote my thoughts in the description

[@k_otey]

my only hope is that the powerful ai gets in the hands of the people, not the corporations :D

[@carfish]

Hey my comment made your vid! Lol sweeet

[@ivanmatveyev13]

Another day another „ai“ shill…

[@Giginetz]

FIRST

[@PlusSe7en]

Are these people serious? Lik.. 3d is one of the things ai truly cant do well at all.. if anything it will only help to create tools that make 3d artists' jobs easier, but that just means they will have MORE abilities. I hate when people are so small minded. AI isnt replacing artists, it's replacing everyone else, and giving artists the tools to make their own stuff without studios or investors. Artists are the only thing that will be left in the end.

[@youmaycallmev]

Are you an artist? I mean like professional artist? In real life work bro they've been affected by AI. Some company has laid off the artist. Well not all they will keep maybe the best 1-2 But the rest

[@asad3dmotionartist]

This thinking is wrong. Investors are the only ones making money from AI right now, but their monopoly is going to end soon as AI is going to move from a few firms to a lot of software.