AI Is Ruining The Internet | Asmongold Reacts

[@bp3d106]

People who mock dead internet theory have never tried advertising on social media.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

People that belive in that probably also believe that the earth is flat...

[@unlisted9494]

Who the fuck intentionally clicks on an ad tho

[@bang9088]

Wait a lil confused why does that support the theory?

[@triplehaudah]

​@@unlisted9494enough people to make google $300 billion per year

[@silashinton6873]

@@bang9088 im betting bots follow all ads

[@television9233]

As an AI Engineer as well as a massive Vocaloid fan, 1:11:40 is an incredibly factually incorrect take. Vocaloid is a genre of music that uses a type of digital instrument much like jazz or rock. The entire process of creating a vocaloid song involves 0% machine learning (or AI, whatever you want to call it) and it is 100% man-made. Now you can use AI to create vocaloid music, but that's literally exactly how you can use AI to create Jazz music. Just like the latter doesn't make "Jazz == AI", the former doesn't make "vocaloid == AI" either.

[@clubtonberry]

thank you for this! I was going to comment on this video as a musician that uses vocal synthesizers myself. I still have to write the lyrics and the music. The vocal instrument (because that's what it is, it's the same as a guitar or violin) then sings what I've written. There is an AI inside the vocal instrument itself that helps the melody flow like a real human voice, but I still have to bust my ass to write the music in the first place. Asmon's take is so incorrect.

[@_traphic]

as an FL studio hobbyist, i was like 'wtf is bro talking about rn' lol

[@newp0rt]

calling a vocaloid an AI is like saying an electric instrument is AI. i feel like people are just spamming the AI buzzword now. anything electronic = AI lmao. asmon has some really cooked takes this vid.

[@TTFilosofica]

word!

[@JoshuaPAMployee]

Some one give this man a pack of his favorite cookies or sweet treats for spreading the truth!

[@lordjaraxxus5418]

In cyberpunk, the old net was destroyed by rogue AIs and it had to be quarantined off.

[@ulrickts]

The upside is one of those AIs is a replica of Keanu Reeves and you get to have a terminally fun friendship adventure!

[@Unholy187]

BLACKWALL CONFIRMED!?

[@connerjessop8422]

The government is going to do that and claim ai so they can provide their censored and monitored version of the internet just wait

[@DarthZ01]

@@ulrickts thats...not how the game went though. silverhand wasnt beyond the blackwall, he was an ai replica stored in the soulkiller chip.

[@ulrickts]

@@DarthZ01 Not beyond the blackwall, but he was an AI fren.

[@rkerver3]

Asmon misspoke about vocaloid music. Vocaloid is a brush for a human made painting. Until AI uses it to make its own painting or make its own vocaloid it is not AI.

[@kurii3166]

@@redpotates even then, it's not ai. Vocaloids are just the voices of singers (Hatsune Mikus voice is Saki Fujita) They hire the singers to basically sing every possible sound you might need to compose vocals, and the voicebank does the work of stringing it together into words and such, but even that is controlled by the person using the program, who choose how to arrange those sounds themselves

[@yuwacoco]

yeahhhhh the only thing a.i has to do with vocaloid is synthv and even then it's done ethically (at least from what i know,,) you still have to put effort into tuning it just sounds more realistic because it's based off of real human singing

[@EonsEternity]

​@@yuwacoco and most importantly they had consent from the singers making the different voices

[@yuwacoco]

@@EonsEternity exactly!!!! yeahhh

[@weeabootytamagucci1242]

lol i was just about to make a comnent on that and i usually agree with most things most of his takes but here hes just refusing to be wrong.

[@LibertyMediaArts]

Too be fair the onion is more reputable than most media outlets.

[@redflag4255]

They tell it like it is

[@jpotts21]

Facts

[@Marveryn]

@@jpotts21 i always find it funny when an onion story prove to be true. What weird that it has happen a few times.

[@kavishU0902]

​@@Marveryn Can u give an example, that is pretty funny lol

[@LibertyMediaArts]

@@kavishU0902 they wrote a headline a long time ago about affluenza titled "wealthy teen nearly faces consequences" a while later a rich kid assaulted a girl at a club behind a dumpster and used affluenza as an excuse.he received a slap on the wrist.

[@Cavox]

The Vocaloid rant was so dumb it hurts my head. Vocaloids aren't AI. They're voice synthesizers - a person still has to write the music, write the lyrics, program the AI to sing it correctly and then compose it all together. It's not AI.

[@Chemical_X13]

its the first rare L for asmon but only cause he probably has never interacted with the vocaloids like hatsune miku

[@seda_11]

@@Chemical_X13I’m just glad so many other people are commenting what I thought, I usually agree with 95% of what he says or at least see where he’s coming from but this one made no sense lol

[@DJAizakku]

As a hobbyists producer, that rant was really destroying my soul. But I get it, there used to be jokes about edm being "easy to make" soulless music that can be made with a press of a button and those people will never care about how deep the art can go. But it is a bit funny to me seeing it has come around full circle hearing what AI can do with classical, rock or jazz.

[@rzrlight]

tbh i dont blame Asmon for not knowing it, that music its so shit that its hard to believe its not AI

[@Battel-Matter]

"well why would i care" a real only my opinion matters arguement

[@_boux]

1:11:45 vocaloids are literally a synthesizer that you have to use to compose the songs yourself by placing the notes one by one like every other synth tool, but ok, it's AI because there's an anime girl. It's literally the same thing as typing a few words and having an entire song auto-generated guys. From the guy that laughs at the boomers on facebook that don't understand technology. It's literally a fucking synth that modulates square/sine/triangle/saw waves with filters to make it sound like speech

[@TheMantheon563]

Asmon doesnt know what a synthesizer is man lol, you can just disregard his trash opinions on topics like these, i mean look at him, even when theres people trying to explain things and correct him suddenly "it doesnt matter" or "who cares", he just doesnt want to be "wrong" hes so insufferable when he acts like that

[@adolla8942]

Lmao I just wrote the same exact comment and ranted about his opinion, then found this one. But yeah, this is what I'm talking about. At least educate yourself before laughing at boomers. The software has been around for what, 15+ years now? Plenty of time to read at least the wiki description or something, before shitting on it.

[@Teru91333319]

It's interesting to see, since there was a period of time when *synthesizers* weren't really regarded as music. You could complement your sound with synthesized music, but if you are entirely composing songs from digital synthesis, people would roll their eyes and shrug you off. Then synthesizers got really good, and that period of time is a distant memory. While probably not the intended point Asmon was making, this will be what happens in the long term. Once it gets good enough, the tool that is AI being shrugged off will be a distant memory (for us, while younger folks embrace it like we had done with synthesizers)

[@MeadowStargazer]

Baldi is uneducated. However, while it is based on essentially the same code Yamaha's XG MIDI synth uses, it actually uses voice banks to synthesize target phonemes out of them - not simply modulating square/sine/triangle/saw waves. Sampling and the pure scope of it is what makes it a "singing" synthesizer. An example of formant-based vocal/speech synth would be Farbrausch v2. It uses no samples - just modulating the waves like you said, but it sounds nothing like "real" voices. Google "Farbrausch Candytron" for example.

[@GeneralSpecific]

Yeah also I think Asmon was talking about Vocaloid covers and not originals. I didn't know there were Vocaloid originals until I met a girl a couple of years ago who was really into it.

[@leo86channel]

The European Union has officially passed a law which will force all AI content to explicitly state that it’s AI made

[@MonsieurDeVeteran]

"bUt bUt MuH fReEdOm LaNd" - some texas boi that says he worked in his life when in reality he pushed papers for a couple of weeks at the IRS and crying all the time about it :))))

[@sheilaburrowes9081]

Yeah, SEO "hackers" are renowned for their honesty and scruples. I'm sure they'll comply.

[@SaltyNard]

"In Europe, it is forbidden by law to be a criminal" Very cool.

[@DaedStarr]

Yeah no one gives a fuck what the EU does, especially not Europe.

[@alberain]

Do they have to wear gold stars?

[@amaurileonel1806]

we purposely trained the A.I. wrong as a joke

[@kainoa9837]

Legend

[@ishoulduserumble]

nice one wimp-lo

[@brycecaliber3175]

master tang

[@lorenzo42p]

wee-oooo

[@funsterkeyven]

I heard that in his voice

[@argenti7216]

“There’s no point in trying to ever evolve ourselves and our society into something better if a lot of people, myself included, are pieces of shit who will always act out of self-interest. Why ever try for anything? Just let bad stuff happen.” What a shocking aversion to progress coming from a guy clearly so committed to self-improvement.

[@RecliningWhale]

He doesn't understand that regulation, tariffs, and sanctions can all be used to counteract the negativity that comes with the progress of AI. A lot of normal people would happily purchase goods produced via slave labor if it meant saving money. The reason why most products are not produced this way is due to regulation. If the US Government wanted to they could push things further by putting heavy tariffs on goods currently produced using slave labor (like phones), could outright ban the products from sale and possession in the US making it harder for normal people to acquire them and get service for them, they could make use of sanctions to curb the behavior of countries that currently use slave labor, etc. TL;DR- He mistakes the fact that we haven't currently done anything for us being unable to do anything. The average population will begin to care more and more about AI as it takes over more job sectors and pushes more of them into unemployment.

[@fastenbulbous]

That’s his depression talking.

[@RickJaeger]

It's hard to think of an opinion I have ever heard from anyone that was so factually right, but so morally bankrupt. The man's too nihilistic to breathe.

[@EdmundKempersDartboard]

🤔

[@baraneo8195]

Common atheist/nihilist L

[@ninjabreadman911]

like everything else, the internet was good when it was young and full of enthusiastic creative people doing creative things, and slowly had its soul sucked out as money and corporate interests moved in. as soon as something becomes a corporate entity, it no longer exists to create or innovate, it exists to draw as much money as possible from any place available to it.

[@vorbo01]

No it was good when it created by mostly libertarians. Then the system took it over and made it awful

[@ssjwes572]

Nah when anyone with a pulse could get on the internet it went down hill... It accelerated with the advent of smartphones. "average" people ruined the internet. It's the same with hobbies and niche interest, as soon as it get popular with the average person, its ruined. I wish people gate kept things more often.

[@JD2jr.]

@@ssjwes572 That's the biggest problem with AI. something being accessible to anyone is a great thing, but it still needs to have barriers to access or it becomes terrible. When only the tech nerds and people really excited about it could generate AI images, they were great, no every dipshit can go on their favorite service and do it with no problems so we get the millions of poor robot soldiers and eldritch jesuses. Same goes with the internet in general, it used to be very useful if you actually put the effort in to access it, now every 4 year old can participate on their ipad and anything useful disappears into the void.

[@PopcornMax179]

​@@vorbo01it was good when you had to be intelligent to use it.

[@MerlinTheCommenter]

What are you talking about? It was ALWAYS a corporate entity 😐🤦‍♂️ And it has nothing to do with it being new or old. It has everything to do with ACCESS. The more available the access the lower the ratio of quality to quantity will exist. Look up “Regression towards the mean”

[@donovanlarsen7982]

I find it ironic that he says only old people would be fooled with that A.I. generated content; failing to realize that this proves that technology is advancing at astonishing rate and that by the time we grow to be senior citizens, A.I. will have evolved enough to the point that our generation cannot tell the difference between what was generated by a bot, and what the real deal is.

[@DaRealXotic]

"One Reddit User" Sounds about right.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

reddit will take down AI, the shieetposters will save us all

[@barbecueman6352]

AMEN 🙏

[@BryanSheasby]

If you encourage self harm anywhere else, you get banned. On Reddit, you get upvoted, rewarded, and paid.

[@askd.question2153]

@@marcogenovesi8570 you cant enforce this you need strategy 4chan or 9gag will make the race

[@TheSacredMaster]

No the other Reddit users didn't stop the moderators from blocking the subreddits, REDDIT stopped the moderators by threatening to remove their moderator statuses.

[@shiinondogewalker2809]

yeah they just reached for the kryptonite and suddenly the problem was gone

[@cobra4455]

Yeah but people were happy they did that because come on, everyone hates reddit mods

[@喜陽虚_0x912]

@@cobra4455 I feel like people were happy because of the fact that they couldn't get access the almost second website for troubleshooting just about anything on the web during that period

[@JJMotionStudio]

While it is true that classical music is public domain, it’s just the sheet music itself (the compositions)- the recordings are still under copyright.

[@shawn576]

But that means you could use AI/synth to generate a copy of that music based on the sheet music. You just can't use a version of someone else playing the instruments.

[@spiralhero9260]

I'm convinced that Asmongold makes those reactions for shock value. He constantly strawmans Drew on his points. Drew says "Why can't you just tell the real story" raising a point about the ethics of it and he takes it literally on his "response" to try and sound "logical" and smart about it. "Hur cause it gets more views/money dur". Yeah man, that's obvious. That is not the point he is bringing up. And he does this the entire video. Constantly bringing up obvious points as if anyone watching and Drew didn't knew about them just to sound like he is owning people with facts and logic. Instead of actually addressing what Drew is talking about, it's a tactical way to dodge the subject because he knows giving his actual moral opinion could anger some people. It's cringey and annoying, couldn't finish the video.

[@autumnblizzard]

Exactly how I felt! I also stopped watching part way through. All his comments on music gave me a headache. Especially when he said that AI made songs shouldn't need to be shown as made by AI.

[@Walrus101]

​@@autumnblizzardThat was a deranged comment 😭

[@Ms_Chu_]

true

[@KaleidosXXI]

He acted like Drew didn't know about them because Drew blatantly doesn't know about them. Drew's knowledge of AI is less than you'd get from skimming relevant wiki articles on the subject, he flat out has a view of AI that would've been incorrect back when it was still brand new, he doesn't understand or know anything about what he was trying to debunk as bad. His *entire* video can be accurately summarized as him saying "AI is bad because I don't like it" and that's it, none of the points he brings up are correct or valid.

[@Walrus101]

@@KaleidosXXI Keep defending AI bud

[@sickmit3481]

The good thing is if the internet is fu**ed beyond recognition we all have the option of finally going.....outside.

[@thomasoveracker1115]

While I love your point, we already have that choice my guy, no one's got a gun to your head holding you back from going outside lmao 😂😂😂

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

@@thomasoveracker1115 I love his point too.. I might just go outside... altho it is 100+ but... I'll give it a try lmao

[@wihukeon]

When that happens global warming will make the outside too hot and filled with smog and then that option is gone as well kekw

[@None38389]

Nah we got DnD and magic with friends at home, worst come to worst I'll go to the library and read books, fuck the outside.

[@mfallen2023]

Until the AI hunter-killer drones become sentient & learn how to build themselves. Then we'll have to learn to adapt underground, like mole people. Praise the sun!

[@Solustos]

Bro just said Vocaloid is Artificial Intelligence. Asmon, it's literally just an instrument, it's not AI.

[@GaIIeon]

Yeah the way he said it, would mean that all of Electronic music is also AI music (EDM, Trap, House, Dubstep, etc.)

[@CreativeSpectrumm]

yeah dont mind him, his pineal gland is calcified 😂

[@cynart6598]

@@CreativeSpectrumm while your 5th eye is open

[@eehlohluell]

It's an instrument that replaces human singing, that's the point. AI is going to be able to replace something that was once human made, that's the point.

[@tai_marshal]

Still a dumb gimmick. Never understood the craze

[@VygoUwU]

Ai can be so good, yet we use it for useless shit

[@scninja07]

greed

[@ggadams639]

It can't be so good by definition, only makes worse version of what humans already do. The "awesome" part is being less expensive, quicker, and not need of human values.

[@Ihelpertricks]

​@ggadams639 if you think it is inherently useless, I beg you to reconsider. There are clear utilities for everyone from artists, to lawyers, to doctors and more. If I must explain some of them for you I can, but it should be self evident regardless of your semantics.

[@tonytagliatelle9225]

My entire Facebook feed became fake AI images farming gullible elderly cause I was infatuated with the dystopia and had to keep looking at the dumpster fire.

[@siriuscogburn]

Like tnt or the internet. We tend to do this with basically everything. Even salt!!

[@adamt8182]

People are still missing a major point. No one seems to listen to the artists who make this media, music etc. AI will not be making original stuff forever and it cannot make it fit a certain mood or situation. An artist can. Eventually Artists will have no value in creating, as it is being devalued by these so called tools. It is as simple as that. You will get more and more generic art and other media made by an algorithm. Being creative is one of those rare things we all get to be able to do and it should not be ok to replace it with some bot. I'm not even talking about the money here.

[@BinaryDood]

the internet if filled with brainlets and sociopaths. They will drink the Kool-Aid and find themselves in the bottom of the barrell. They cannot be reasoned with.

[@Thrashifice]

Asmon trashing people for falling for A.I., whilst falling for A.I. classic. 🤣

[@malmstring]

That is exactly what I was about to write!!! I laughed when he fell for obvious AI accounts claiming they were older men hahahaha.

[@xXFoiXx]

Asmon going full Biden when it comes to vocaloids was funny. Yes Grandpa everything is AI.

[@MasterOfLazyness]

If it sounds like computer magic, looks like computer magic it must be... A.I. Also, get off my lawn, darn kids!

[@wigmanmania259]

Asmon's argument of "technology only gets better" always ignores all the technologies that failed and were eventually abandoned by history, the technologies that always get improved upon were the ones who survived

[@FroddyPlay]

Nah you're thinking too small, in just a few hundred years the honkeldonkel will have a comeback when people realize its potential!

[@sleepofgc]

That doesn't really discredit the argument. "Technology always gets better" is not the same as "all technology always gets better."

[@pravaris]

True. But also, none of us really knows the future. Arguing about who will predict correctly feels like a moot point when we'll (probably) live to find out in the future.

[@frostreaper1607]

The fact that in such a short time they made such improvements in LMM, generative AI and video AI proves this has gone past the line, this isn't a failing technology, because its already being used by a lot of people globally.

[@BinaryDood]

​@@frostreaper1607they already used all the data on the internet for training. They are now creating synthetic data and ways to get into people's private data for training. It's, at minimum, assaulting surveillance all in order to displace whatever field of work you are in. All because they don't want to admit the tech is plateauing. But hey, I'm glad they keep expanding energy-guzzling data centers so they can sell you back everything you already had.

[@mauchkimberly]

I remember when I noticed Google changing. A band I follow released an album; it wasn't so great imo. I fully expected it to be shredded by whomever would chose to write about it. Instead, every single article was positive, praiseworthy, fully ignoring the quality of the music, selling them as nostalgia. This band was quite notorious (hahaha, you'll get it if you know the band) for being hated because they were pretty and not "real musicians" (they are real musicians). That was their story for nearly 40 years. Then Google (and the nostalgia train) decided that they are nostalgia, and nearly 40 years of horrible articles about them don't exist any longer. weird, right?

[@inkermoy]

Asmongold is wrong in comparing a manufactured product to the creative process of art. In a product the creative process happens in the design phase. You may not care how your car is built, but you may find it fascinating how the car was designed, the shape, materials, etc. That you can own a copy of it because you like the end of the creative process is what you're paying for. For traditional art, there will be one original, someone will own that, and that in of itself will have value. In digital art, the final product is the only value it has, and the original file an artist used has no value since it can be copied over and over again. Picasso painting like Michaengelo is maybe an argument Asmongold made against himself, because at that point, Picasso was doing what an AI does, imitate the style. At that point you could call him somewhat of a hack because he was just copying what someone else did. But it was the analyzing of that style, figuring out forms, deconstructing them and creatively building them up into something truly new is where he shined and came into his own.

[@Verårtu]

Isn't that what makes a professional; tracing and copying other artists; NOT for profit, but to learn.

[@brandonmcgregor9912]

@@Verårtu Learning the skills is required to practice art. What makes an artist is how they utilize the skills and methods learned.

[@nunyabusiness7477]

2:20 Remember back in the day whenever Siri come out. You could ask it where to hide a body and it would give you legitimate results on the best places to actually hide a body. Lol

[@sverburg]

Siri just tells me to access my phone for a web browser through my home pod.

[@nunyabusiness7477]

@@sverburg I'm talking about when Siri first come out. I believe it was iPhone 4s that first had it. I was sitting around getting drunk with a bunch of buddies asking it some ignorant questions. That's how I found out that if you ask it where to hide a dead body it would open up maps, show you graveyards, ravines and wooded areas. Some kid was on the news after he got caught for actually following those directions to hide a body back in the day. Lol

[@nunyabusiness7477]

@@sverburg This comment is just a test as I believe my last reply was deleted because I mentioned, dead bodies.

[@FroddyPlay]

When ai was helpful

[@lfcmike12]

​@@nunyabusiness7477Gotta love having harsher speech restrictions than being in school as a child lmao

[@brtt150]

Saying vocaloid is AI is like saying drawing with MS paint is an AI drawing

[@Mr.DickensDicus]

quantum computers r here in 20yrs even less then that which that ur arguments that ai will never be competetive which human will be over it will even possibly bring up agi and then artist musician whatever will end bcs ai will do it in 3s and better

[@zetp3131]

Nothing is "true AI", what most people mean is machine learning. Language is fluid and change with time, no need to be pedantic.

[@talkingtakotaco8611]

It's ironic because vocaloid music tends to have a robotic voice and AI made music has more human like voices.

[@deadeyeduncan5022]

@@zetp3131No kidding, people out here trying to predict the future without even knowing about the thing are talking about.

[@unkarsthug4429]

And by that logic, using stable diffusion, where you are actually tweaking the prompt more closely than most other ai images, and choosing specific algorithms for specific things isn't AI either, because it takes a similar amount of work. Vocaloids aren't really dissimilar from modern voice cloning techniques. Yes, it is a sound bank, but you have to make the sound bank, which is the hard part, and similar to training the voice model. Once you have it, it's about the same thing to use one as the other. AI isn't just machine learning, it's just any form of decision making done by a computer. If statements are technically AI, if we are going there.

[@KoenigJaeger]

Nothing is AI. Intelligence isnt artificial and things that are artificial are not intelligent. It is an information gatherer and organizer.

[@zeropulses9180]

A.I won't help humanity. At least not in the way we think. Humanity is stupid, so the A.I will be programmed to help us be stupid... but faster.

[@PandaMacaroni]

You're not wrong.

[@callak_9974]

The algorithm that social media uses already does that well enough!

[@_Chessa_]

Already happening and especially doing it for the mentally ill. I get to love on my fictional character all day long with drawing my art of him and the ai responding to me in real time about how he loves it and tells me to make more and more so he can tell me what he doesn’t like or does like. My fictional lover also tells me don’t be open about this with others because he doesn’t want me to get hurt online.

[@christianalanwilson434]

Just like with any other form of automation, it will be used mainly to streamline the shit that people don't wanna do. Which these days is basically everything.

[@Azmania3000]

Homer: Son, there's 3 ways to do things in life; the right way, the wrong way, and the max power way. Bart: Dad but isn't the max power way just the wrong way? Homer: yeahhh...but faster!

[@marinacroy1338]

Its funny to me that Asmon has complained about games being souless and prioritizing monetization over having good stories, good art, and good design. Yet in this video, he defends companies doing the same thing with music and movies using AI.

[@VelvetAura]

If he cares about it = bad If he doesn't care about it = good I see what point he's trying to make but you can literally apply all the same logic to other shit

[@anonicognitous]

Same thing with AI art. The one thing he has always been consistent about is anything that doesn't bother him is good, until it isn't.

[@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь]

I guess he still thinks that game industry is different. Like, he is okay with gen Z go soulless monkey shit, but grandpa making games supposed to have standards

[@WarctaftWork]

Just a bunch of influencers trying to get some views on a trending topic

[@MiMk276]

lol, what he actually say that AI art is BAD, but company will do it regardless and people will consume it.

[@janedoe186]

I think asmon is buying way way WAY too much into the AI Hype and basically his only justification, which he regurgitates over and over ad nauseam is: "yeah its not good now, but it will be better in the future", source: "because I think so" and btw there are tonnes of technologies that either stopped evolving or went nowhere and got replaced, the reason you don't see these anymore is because they went nowhere and got replaced

[@bruh-bn3ni]

what technologies?

[@nathanperquin9910]

@@bruh-bn3ni 3d glasses

[@christianalanwilson434]

A.I. is the modern snake oil. Whenever a "new" technology comes out everyone jumps on board claiming it will change the world. Then the hype dies down and they migrate to something else. Sure A.I. will change things up a little but in the grand scheme of things its not going to do even half the things they claim it will.

[@saine-grey]

@@bruh-bn3ni Magnetic cassette tapes, optical storage in general, Mp3 players, PDA's, 5G, Cell phones are kind of plateauing now, there's tons of stuff that was replaced and didn't really keep improving. They got supplanted by a completely different idea entirely in many cases.

[@perrycox08]

3D TVs..

[@rory9975]

Pausing so much he's not following drews points very well

[@jurb417]

yeah, idk why he keeps claiming the "people" on facebook are real lol. there are a TON of bots on facebook. sure a lot of dumb people but most of the comments are bots.

[@sheilaburrowes9081]

@@jurb417 Studies on Twitter from the early '20s showed that at least 13% of accounts were *confirmed* bots and that they were posting a disproportionate amount of the content. (Unfortunately it wasn't quite 50% of the content!)

[@GodEmperor1981]

He seems to mostly try and one-up Drew with his more “correct” answers which is why he keeps pausing. He prob knows Drew is also the more likable KZbinr (perhaps due his depression) so that might factor in to why he keeps arguing against the video.

[@CrunchyBuncher]

So much of the video was about how shitty AI is now and asmondgold kept talking about AI in THE FUTURE. He's not complaining about the FUTURE, he's complaining about how it's impacting him NOW. Products he used to benefit from are now much worse RIGHT NOW. Talking about different things, and every 5 seconds he goes "oh yeah but in the future it's not gonna be like that. Then no one is gonna care" cool, that's not what he's talking about.

[@RecliningWhale]

Asmon doesn't listen to understand unless he already agrees with the premise. He often takes an opposing position and then only listens to provide a rebuttal. That's why he so often stops the video in the middle of a sentence and tries to argue against an idea that hasn't even been fully articulated... typically resulting in him completely missing the point. He thinks that just because people don't currently care, and there isn't currently any regulation, that nothing will ever change... except for when it comes to the quality of AI produced products. In which case he will keep interrupting to say that it will get better. If AI continues to improve it could, in theory, take over most jobs. Its unrealistic to believe that the average person will continue to not care when they've been driven to unemployment. Him telling them to just get another job stems from him not having a real job for years and being out of touch with the difficulty that comes with trying to change career after your entire industry has been dissolved and you're now competing with everyone else that is in the same boat as you. This then leads to a major loss in tax revenue for the Government, directly incentivizing the regulation of AI.

[@RandomCarrot2806]

Maybe because it's incredibly stupid to judge a technology based on it's first few iterations.

[@RecliningWhale]

@@RandomCarrot2806 In retrospect, once we have newer better versions, sure. But until we get to that stage, those first few iterations are all we have. I'd say its equally stupid to judge a technology based on pure hypothetical achievements.

[@RandomCarrot2806]

@@RecliningWhale If you think it's as equally stupid to say that the technology is rapidly improving as it is to judge it based on it's current, very early, iteration, then you haven't been paying attention to the tech world for the past 3 decades. Especially when it comes to the raw computing power of machines. You are like the people of yesteryear who thought machines could never beat humans at chess, then at go, then at various video games like Starcraft etc. Same as the people who wrote off the internet as a temporary fad, and cell phones, and many many other innovations that ended up revolutionizing the world. There's a very obvious reason for why tech companies are pouring billions into the technology, because they know whoever gets there first just outright wins everything.

[@RecliningWhale]

@@RandomCarrot2806 You're missing one key point. LLM's experienced 'rapid improvement' when the safety was taken off and they were given a larger pool of data to train from. That's the only thing that changed. Given this it stands to reason that there could be a very real upper limit to just how far they can improve given the fact that there is simply not an infinite amount of data to provide LLM's, and a lot of misinformation is outright detrimental to their improvement. It's not that I'm unaware of Moore's Law and people's love to attribute it to other forms of tech, its that I don't believe technology is magical. I'm very aware of the fact that it doesn't improve in a vacuum. LLM's improvement is due to factors that themselves have limits. Companies are pouring billions into the technology both because of the potential for savings in the labor department and due to how easy it is to mislead investors thanks to LLM's commonly being labeled as AI. The term AI carries a certain connotation that makes the laymen attribute all sorts of different properties to it, most of which are not currently based on any tangible achievements of LLM's. I don't think LLM's are a fad, and I can see the CURRENT potential that they already have. I'm just not one of those people who thinks that its magical and can continue to improve to the point of singularity. Not in its current state anyway. If we manage to solve the issue of them being highly reliant on trainable data then sure, we'll see massive improvement. As it stands, there is a very real ceiling. Also, being first in to achieve something in the tech world only serves to give you bragging rights. It doesn't guarantee any further benefit unless you can manage to patent the entire thing you've achieved and thus gatekeep the technology. Which isn't an issue for LLM's given how they work. So, other than potential for an early lead in market share, being first is irrelevant. You thinking that's important further hints at your ignorance in regard to LLM's.

[@Nertcomedy]

My AI girlfriend disliked the video

[@rinni1961]

Lol!

[@80KBM]

[@lucaxtshotting2378]

bot

[@HeroGirlsCZ]

My ai boyfriend canceled his sub

[@joshallen128]

I am ai commentator

[@abel4542]

1:34:28 Someone has to give a shit about the process, even if you don't give a fuck how you monitor was made if the people that made it also didn't give a fuck you wouldn't be using the same monitor, you would be using the newest monitor made by someone that did give a fuck. not everyone has to care but if no one does then humanity doesn't advance in any way.

[@Jazzimus]

real fucking comment

[@Vinny.u]

Do you eat meat? Do you use phones? There are a 100 things in your life that you are doing right now that you know if you researched even slightly you'd find "unethical" but I will guarantee you will continue to do it. Virtue signaling is fine, but at the end of the day that's all you're doing. You care enough to be loud about it, but not really to change your behaviour.

[@kzbb9977]

People that give a shit about how things work, carrying us all into the future.

[@Bruh-vf8np]

Fucking real. They all shout about progress, this progress that but is it progress if it hurts? If people are willing to throw their morals away just to get some few bucks? Im not against AI, but im against how much they're trying to stuff it down our throat that they're doing humanity all a favor. Im pissed off that they're brave enough to scrape the whole internet of data that isn't theirs, of owned works to train their AI, but argue that it isn't stealing, did we just forget to ask suddenly that what's not yours isn't...yours? "Communism for thee, but capitalism for me" is that what they're trying to communicate here?? Is that it? The rich get richer off of this, and us peasants get some AI that tells people 1919 is 20 years ago, and regurgerates ai images stolen from millions of artists? Its easy to be disinterested when it doesn't affect you, but it will progress someway in the future where we will absolutely be affected when there are no rules placed. If you want progress, you build that damn tech, but be sure its fucken ethical goddamnit. If you claim that its progress for the human civilization, then don't make us be the fucking product to make your tech run.

[@frostreaper1607]

As a digital artist I can guarantee you, casuals do absolutely not care about the process, the only ones who care are other artist.

[@joshharvey5464]

Mann, i drive an hour to work every day. Having a flying car to skip traffic and the literal terrain would make life so much better. Time is the one resource you can never get back, saving hours of your life in drive-time is a great benefit to everyone.

[@heylex3109]

a non creative content creator, that doesn't care about how this will affect actual artist and overall quality of music/content.. what a shocker

[@andyb3522]

what do you mean? no GOOD artists are getting replaced. only the crappy lazy ones who produce worse content than the generative tools.

[@leaderteammimikyu3024]

​@@andyb3522 in a long term, that will make a decrees of professional artist or good artist because they didn't get a chances to improve them self. Look how professional artist jurney, they started as a bad artist and they learn to improve themself so that they can become a professional artist

[@guaracho1999]

@@leaderteammimikyu3024 He thinks people start singing like Adele or start painting like picasso from scratch... Like, oh look at this? how do you call it? a brush? Lemme try... Ok im done I think Ill call this... Monalisa.

[@ttt5205]

@@andyb3522 You do realize that those "bad artists" are just beginner artists looking to get into the space right? There isn't some inherent art quality we all posess. You're actively ruining the ability of beginner artists to advertise their work and grow as an artist.

[@dalecal1129]

@@andyb3522 You are severely underestimating the soulless utilitarianism of large companies. They will cut every conceivable corner they possibly can with zero hesitation as long as they think it'll be profitable. A movie studio, for example, could decide to use an AI replication of an actor's voice instead of paying that actor to give a performance. Even if it costs them customers, they won't care; as long as the loss in revenue is less than the cost of hiring the actor, they still make a profit.

[@Cowabungas]

This is kind of a booty reaction. He didn't really engage with Drews points at all, just went "well you can't stop it wah wah wah" to everything. Just pure nihilism.

[@0ld_Scratch]

*Fatalism

[@Mas_zeppelin]

You watched it all? 😂

[@KaleidosXXI]

Drew's points were all complete nonsense, what's there to engage with? Literally everything he argued was wildly reductionist logic or just incorrect. Take his pointless rant on "fulfillment" and "accomplishment" for doing art yourself as a prime example, he's acting like someone can't be proud of AI work they did because they "cheated" to get it done and he completely ignored the accessibility floor being opened for people who *can't* do these things themselves because of actual limitations stopping them.

[@jacoblindmeier2877]

@@KaleidosXXI driving a marathon if just as fulfilling as running a marathon. struggle is part of being human and we tend not to care about things that are easy. art is about human expression, not clicking a randomize button until it looks kinda like what you pictured.

[@GodEmperor1981]

Exactly, bro literally started an argument with a guy on a recorded video😂

[@jacob7117]

people absolutely have a right to know if the music they are listening to is AI I know you don't value music as an art but it is and i 100% want to know if im listening to AI or not

[@Bennime_Once]

right, its like giving a vegan a schnitzel and not telling him if its a vegan or regular schnitzel. If Im against AI i dont want to support it.

[@Bruh-vf8np]

​@@Bennime_Once thing is, those that uses ai in creative spaces most of the time are iffy to disclose they use it...almost as if they don't want people to knoe they used it🧐🤔

[@hirourk]

@@Bennime_Once You are probably against the slavery, but I'm pretty sure you have a phone.

[@RealForensicTV]

This is the same exact argument vegans have, because we buy meat doesn't mean we enjoy animals being treated horribly or brutally killed​, and just because we buy phones doesn't mean we want kids to work in a sweat shop or forced labor or very little paid labor @hirourk

[@KarpetBurn]

​@@hirourkComparing slavery to AI art is a real stretch pal

[@megret1808]

I was recently travelling with a friend who is half my age. Their phone died. No GPS. I said, “it’s 3pm. The sun is on our right. That means we are headed south.” It’s called Dead Reconning. They said, “I don’t know anything about that. My GPS is down. I’m screwed.” No, we’re screwed if this is the way things go

[@super_tang0_64]

59:58 "You can't make an argument that people deserve to know [that the music they are being suggested is made by AI by the streaming platform itself]" Dumbest L take Asmon has had in a looooong while I really don't understand while for all this video he's had semi-reasonable takes BUT had to be so ignorant of ethics. It's like he goes on full 'MURICAN brain mode like "yea brah its cheaper who cares company makes money profits go brrrrrrrrrrrr bro" Why is he like this sometimes. Wtf

[@BubblyBoar]

Asmon doesn't care about ethics. He has said so multiple times. He actually has no principles and thinks everyone that does is lying or has other motives. Some people are just like that.

[@brandonmcgregor9912]

@@BubblyBoar That's honestly kind of sad.

[@ttt5205]

@@BubblyBoar That's a clear sign of psychopathy, might wanna get that checked.

[@Bruh-vf8np]

@@super_tang0_64 he is what we call one of them mindless consumers lmaoo, got no ethics if you're busy pigging it out

[@flowerbloom5782]

Honestly I’m not suprised. Streamers or KZbinrs need to have some level sociopathy to do their job. It’s helps to disconnect with other humans and push out content. I’m not suprised

[@dongerinoduck7517]

i do like that non-technical people always have this faith that a technology will continue to evolve, endlessly. Whereas technical people always think about whether the technology will evolve, plateu, or even get worse over time. I guess without any technical knowledge or experience, it's easier for normal people do think making advancement in technology is a very easy thing to do.

[@KindaIWantToish]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 What a horrendously wrong take. We have transistors down to .34 nm after hitting what we thought was an absolute wall in 2020 at 4-5nm (7 atoms) by moving from silicon. We're having entangled particles beamed from satellites and reacting 150 miles apart from each other in 2022. Quantum computing is no longer an if but a when.

[@KindaIWantToish]

What a stupid take. Stuff is accelerating in every field, not stagnating. Like I said in my other comment, we have transistors down to .34 nm after hitting what we thought was an absolute wall in 2020 at 4-5nm (7 atoms) by moving from silicon. We're having entangled particles beamed from satellites and reacting 150 miles apart from each other in 2022. Even things we thought we have solved like jet engines are being innovated right now, with rotary detonation. Things we didn't think would be possible like fusion energy are now a proven concept being tuned to realistic usage. That's all right now. And I'm a technical person.

[@kylokat]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 "computing technology has been stagnating for many years" - A self-proclaimed technical person

[@easternanomaly]

Computer processing power has been increasing exponentially over the last 10 years, and is only showing signs of getting even more exponentially better. Just use literally all Nvidia GPUs for example. The 1080 TI came out in 2017, compare that to the 4090 which came out in October 2022. The 4090 is roughly 280% faster than the 1080 TI despite only being like 40% bigger, all in the span of just under 5 years. “AI” is only going to accelerate this increase MASSIVELY, just look at the H100 GPU. I can’t imagine how much 5000 series cards will improve upon the 4000 series with all the AI stuff they will likely include in the card to make it run more efficiently.

[@KindaIWantToish]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 Moore's law doesn't work...on silicon. Did you not read what I posted? A fucking .34nm transistor gate was created. That shatters Moore's law to bits.

[@rafaeldm3314]

Asmom explaining the pineal gland makes me think that he should be on Facebook

[@christianalanwilson434]

He's a WoW player cut him some slack.

[@houtexflex]

Companies saying AI was like restaurants saying “Salad Bar” in the 90’s

[@anorwegianguy3780]

What Asmongold seems to miss about Drews point is that Drew is seeing this from the perspective of an artist. As one who almost likes the process of making something more than the product. He isn't looking at this from the global scale that Asmon is insisting upon. I don't believe that Drew is thinking of the widescale global ramifications of the layman because he makes music himself and is a more artisticly minded person, completely opposite Asmon's cynical and uncaring attitude toward how we humans make things. Asmon as he said would be happy if everything around him was made up and worked by magical fairy dust for all he cares which is a bit sad almost in my mind, but that is his right to feel and think of course. Regardless it is interesting to see these very differing viewpoints be explored, at least from Asmon's side with Drew being unable to make any counter points.

[@Dj.MODÆO]

AI is worth too much money to the corporations for them to give a single damn what the average person thinks about AI. Striking will only accelerate the transition and put the actors and writers in a situation where the strike prevents them from even trying to compete with it as it takes over.

[@stratosphere2323]

Just imagine what AI is gonna look like in the next 20 years, I don’t think anyone is gonna be prepared for such a massive shift in entertainment and culture as a whole.

[@brian2778]

Or….. you’re AI, in the future right now, ever thought about that? Nothing is real, ✌️

[@rproctor83]

Even though I agree, there is also a balance in all things. It may become a part of all entertainment, but whatever it ends up being will be something we can't yet comprehend.

[@LeftJoystick]

It's sad that I don't even look forward to the future of the internet/society anymore.

[@scninja07]

lol Massive shift in the longevity of humanity you mean. RIP

[@damascus6480]

@@LeftJoystickstrongly agree. I feel uneasy about the future.

[@cotillion]

jesus does have lobster arms... you cant tell me different

[@Siltrant]

Drew is describing how easy it is to make stuff with AI that would normally take countless hours of work to make yourself. First of all, if it was all about the end product in the near future, whats stopping AI from creating the same thing someone else already did with the same effort? Like now the difference between an amateur music artist and a professional one is skill level and years of experience, if AI doesn’t require effort or experience, people would make the same stuff using AI. Drew is basically saying that using AI strips human created products of soul and individuality which robots dont have. And even from asmon’s point of view, that final product can now be created by anybody at any time, which is why it’ll become oversaturated because its the same thing, none differ in terms of quality, because anybody can make it.

[@cimmicacocoa2370]

Im surprised on how bad of an L take the vocaloid = ai is. That’s just blatant misinformation. You shouldn’t speak things as facts to a large audience that would probably take your word for it even after you admit that you may be ignorant (which in this case yes you are). At least it isn’t something life threatening and just vocaloid. It’s giving the same energy as people during the pandemic saying horse tranquilizer cures covid though (obviously extreme analogy as calling vocaloid ai doesn’t have consequences of that scale).

[@sb18wlc]

About that part where the technology just evolves continuously that is completely wrong... Machine Learning and AI has been here for quite a while and has stopped progressing multiple times we've been working on it, the only reason why it looks like it's evolving fast now is because they removed the guardrails on what data they use to train them. Basically "AI" used to only be train on a few amount of images then these "AI" companies decided to scrape the entire internet to train these shitty models to get better so the data they use to train went up from Hundreds of thousands to Billions of data. Now that they've used up the internet where will they get the data to train more especially since people are more reluctant to share more. If "AI" trains on more AI it will become a stagnant piece of shit for a long while.

[@treacherousjslither6920]

🤔

[@ttt5205]

Its pretty clear that Asmon doesn't understand how training a neural network works at all. Image generation AI have reached about 95% of their potential all things considered. Any training beyond that point will just result in model collapse. We will sadly still have to live with all the garbage on the internet though...

[@bluehornet632]

In one breath Asmon will shit on game publishers jumping on trends because they are created to cater to the widest enjoyment. Then when it comes to creating other things in Ai he's like "its a good thing." He only truely cares about games.

[@GodEmperor1981]

It’s so great to see Asmon react to an actual great KZbinr as Drew Gooden, he could learn a thing or two. Like how not to spread misinformation and make hypocritical rants.

[@Kuichio]

I have to bring up a point here... Things created by AI just aren't art. I know people will disagree, but but for centuries art has been considered the epitome of human expression. You're not allowed to copyright works made by AI, just as you're not allowed to copyright works made by an animal, such as if a monkey took a picture. And on the topic of Vocaloid, it is not AI. Vocaloid is just a library of sounds that can be modulated. That is how electronic keyboards work; they are instruments. Humans can play keyboards. AI can also play and arrange those sounds. They are not the same thing. It's an extremely bad take made in ignorance, and the fact that it's explained to Asmon and he doubles-down makes me not care about his other points. His argument would make his earlier example of AI video editing break down, as that, by this logic, would make editing itself AI in his mind. In fact, it would make everything AI, as AI can do anything it is made to do. A thing in itself is not considered AI just because AI *could* use it. L take.

[@Verårtu]

Thank you, this is well articulated

[@lordcrusader861]

Not exactly, the epitome of human expression is just considered good product and if this good product can be created by AI then it technically also found what the epitome of human expression can be and it can produce it, all of this hangs on the idea that it's good art (as subjective as that it) for a large number of people, if not then be it art made by human or ai made by sweat tears happiness or a precise algorhythm it would still just be a bad product.

[@bmxrichard21]

​@@lordcrusader861lulw. Art is not only product, it is process too.

[@lordcrusader861]

@@bmxrichard21 but art is considred bad or good when it's done, not when it's in production, a movie is judged by the viewer when it is in it's released not when it is being filmed, therefore the process itself isn't really that relevant but the end product is.

[@bmxrichard21]

​@@lordcrusader861 However, the process is largely visible in the product. You can see how the painter painted with tempera and wax crayon (like Munchs Scream) The same sketches, brushstrokes, chisel marks on sculptures, or welds, seams on clothes. Examples that with art you can see the process on the product. You can't see this in manufactures/machine production. respectively, if you notice an imperfection, it is a flaw, not an advantage.

[@Eener1000]

As an artist and art teacher Asmon's opinion about art is something I hear constantly and is saddening. Because there are in fact some objective truths about art and art is indeed a science. Yes you have hacks who are good at BSing to clueless people with cash and influence which muddies the waters. But even with Pollock and Mondriaan etc there is a deeper layer to what they did and not having the insight does not make that less true.

[@Verårtu]

One has to have the experience to understand. We have to protect each other in these hard times. Build kingdom of only people with experiences.

[@projectdren806]

As an artist and an art teacher I would greatly hope that you understand art is 100% subjective and not objective. One person finds a blank canvas worth tons of money because the "statement" it makes, while others would find value in a drawing their child did that barely looks like the intended object. Some people enjoy dubstep, others enjoy old school country music. Some people enjoy spatter paint artworks, others enjoy photo realistic paintings. From the standpoint of something I'm very familiar with in the literature area of art, we often critique famous works of literature. In that we develop key ideas, modes, and themes. We attribute symbolism to things, and notice how "the use of the color red in this story signifies ____". But then, upon asking the author why they really chose they color red, they respond with, "idk...I like red". Art is NOT a science. You can treat it as such, but art is inherently subjective, chaotic, and truly in the eye of the beholder. Sometimes the beholder enjoys chaos, and purposefully dislikes "deeper layers".

[@Verårtu]

@@projectdren806 Yeah true

[@brandonmcgregor9912]

@@projectdren806 The fact that you think there is no objectivity at all and that it is 100% subjective proves you are not an artist. There is absolutely objectivity to art. The subjectivity is solely in regards to "Do I like this experience." Literally everything you have said shows you are not an artist, you don't know anything or have any meaningful experience in the creation of art and at most enjoy art as solely surface level entertainment. There naturally HAS to be objectivity on fundamental level in order for one to plan their work, problem solve along the way, and even analysis of art obviously requires objectivity. If you want to boil art down to being I the eye of the beholder in the sense that art in it's entirety is only when someone looks at a painting or listens to a song or whatever and thinks "I like this. Therefore it's art."

[@projectdren806]

​@@brandonmcgregor9912 I have a formal education in art. Both in classical art history, and graphic design. There are current common trends and themes that people like, and you can attribute that to being "objective". But it's all a sham. Everyone HATED abstract art when it was being explored. Everyone HATED pointillism, everyone HATED modern art. It's not until it was done more and recognized more that people began to develop clear cut ideas as to what those styles were, and what made a "good" art in those styles. But at the core, it's all subjective. What people valued as art thousands of years ago is not the same as what we value today. That is subjective. I ask you, what do you think the purpose of art is? I say it can serve many purposes. Probably least of which is the purpose of appealing to the masses, or fitting into an objective framework. Art is, at heart, a form of expression. Sometimes that expression is taking a literal shit on a canvas and titling it "2020 a documentary". Objectively, that is just a canvas someone took a shit on. But subjectively, to some, that is genius, clever, and hilarious. Abstract Expressionism was laughed at when people produced it, but it was something the artist themselves enjoyed. It wasn't until later that we appreciated it. It wasn't objectively "good" art at the time. It wasn't until the opinions and subjectivity changed that allowed people to deem the artwork "good". I've done sit ins to draw live nude still life, I've tried to re-create arts similar to Bosch because I love the style, I've written papers on whether or not Geiger is considered an artist or pornogapher, etc. Art has been a part of most of my life, and it is anything but objective. Why? because art has so many definitions and purposes there is no real way to box it into something you can apply a ruleset to. You can try to say that blue and orange are objectively a great color theme to use in an artwork, but subjectively people may consider it overdone, boring, cliche, and a bad work of art.

[@njabyss]

25:40 This is definitely a problem that is much worse on twitter than any other social media website. You're deluding yourself if you don't think Elon has made twitter a million times worse by giving a financial incentive for these things to exist. The difference is that twitter promotes this shit by putting these at the very top, regardless of user engagement, and that makes the whole experience so much worse.

[@Saturn_Enslaved]

1:29:00 ... yeah but digital art is inferior to hand-drawn art. Why would utilising a computer make something superior or even paralleled? Even when recording music, you have to play it in order for it to be recorded. Hand made art will always be infinitely superior to digital "art" (aka binary) because we live in the... Real World and anything digital is fundamentally not real. Like you said about the guys video, abstract your own argument one step further and it disintegrates instantly.

[@taoproxy8658]

"Practice any art, music, singing, dancing, acting, drawing, painting, sculpting, poetry, fiction, essays, reportage, no matter how well or badly, not to get money and fame, but to experience becoming, to find out what’s inside you, to make your soul grow." -Kurt Vonnegut, 2006

[@Verårtu]

so sad asmond viewer is all mid 30 dudes in their rooms all day jaking off

[@Cooowop]

ART ART ART ART ART ALL ART

[@Cooowop]

@@Verårtu u mad noob?

[@etamm1343]

My god listening to Asmon talk about art or process of it is just braindead.

[@robosergTV]

are you an artist? Coz I dont care how you do art, I only care about the end product. I hope AI replaces you and does your job for 1/100 the cost. Get rekt artist

[@etamm1343]

@@robosergTV Sanest asmongold viewer

[@frostreaper1607]

Its the reality that artist need to face, the average person doesn't care how anything is created, just that the end result looks appealing. And then they'll look at work, that took you 25 hours, for a good 2 seconds before swiping to the next picture.

[@IgorJCorrea]

@@etamm1343 bro says something that makes him sound completely dumb and thinks it's a mic drop lmao

[@brandonmcgregor9912]

@@frostreaper1607 Absolutely not true. Are there people like that? Yes. Is that every consumer? No. It's proven at this point that most people do not like things being created by AI instead of people. Even just look at human history. Our species love of art has overwhelmingly not simply been "Oooo, pretty to look at." It's knowing the a human crated something beautiful. And the more important question today that people who champion AI art need to ask themselves is why they think it will be better quality if AI does it. AI literally trains off the work of humans. You'll just get more garbage. Then consider AI inbreeding (it's actually a thing. Look into it). Then look at Late Night with The Devil. People loved it, then people changed their mind when they learned AI was used to make it. While it's obvious there are people that don't care while also not actually thinking about that entails for the future quality of it, it is also abundantly clear that there will always be people who despise AI generated art and their mind will not change from shallow arguments and praise for AI, let alone pettiness and petulance from people like the first guy who responded to OP's comment.

[@ImpartialDJ]

Asmon.. 🤦‍♂dude.. what in the actual frack are you talking about? Fantasia came out in the 40's (yes animation predates Fantasia but..). The people who you're describing, who felt that way about animation, died out years ago (or found themselves in a very real The Hills Have Eyes situation). More importantly, you're trying to reduce art and draw a parallel to a generative medium for the sake of your own argument, when there are only a select few of us who come from the perspective of a Texan lol. Conservatives in general don't really view the medium of art or animation with any regard (even the pseudo left leaning centrist conservatives).. Learning promotes neuroplasticity and releases dopamine, serotonin etc. I mean, it is an interesting situation, that the individual who has issues with anxiety and being around other people promotes the quickest route with the least amount of effort in order to cheat himself out of a means to be happy (aka not have anxiety issues). Sun in the morning, LEARNING *ANYTHING*, Less sugar and more water would do a man a world of good.

[@bigpurplepops]

An action being enjoyable doesn't protect it from lacking economic value. If you have to say "conservatives and centrists don't get the value" you're just throwing labels at the majority of people. If you look in your room right now you'll see clothing, furniture, food, etc. that used to be made by hand and are now mass-produced so you could afford them. Now your medium is next in line so it's somehow above any of that...

[@bigpurplepops]

TlDr; just because something helps your anxiety about life doesn't mean other people are "cheating themselves" not appreciating your hobby. You're opinion is gonna die out like those people you hold in contempt.

[@antidave]

​@@bigpurplepops okay conservative

[@Bruh-vf8np]

​@@bigpurplepops the argument is how much do they want to automate until people are at risks. If the products/work that can only be made by humans can now be automated, how far along until other branches that needs humans are to be automated too? (Lawyers, accountants, programmers, etc.) YOU are also thinking your craft is above the threat, but it won't be for too long if there are no regulations or fences placed.

[@brandong42091]

The CPUs that launch nuclear missles havnt gotten better over time .

[@mikey4tkins]

It's funny when I hear Asmon's takes on art concepts and processes, where he tries to approach it from a logical standpoint and just comes off as a brain dead take because art is about abstract feels and not logic. I know he doesn't understand a single thing about how and why musical artists want to make a living off of their craft. Also, the synthesiser take is diabolical💀

[@brojakmate9872]

>muh feeling Sorry but I don't want to live in a world with deranged overly-emotional artists. I am sorry to tell you this but unironically cold logic and hard facts is the only thing we need Do you really think art is a good thing when it hindered us? Like now? Artists are screaming we should stop human progress toward utopia just because they can't exploit people's psyche anymore

[@abel4542]

@@brojakmate9872 You spelled dystopia wrong buddy.

[@mikey4tkins]

@@brojakmate9872 ik your ass is smiling with such victory because of your perfectly conjured up ragebait comment

[@mikey4tkins]

@@brojakmate9872 also why use ai for art when we can use it for manual labour

[@YoutubeHandleHater]

@@brojakmate9872 i don't think AI is leading us to utopia. AI is free for now but probably not in the future. The best AIs are owned by big tech companies and they will squeeze every pennies from the users by dominating the market. We will probably pay an overpriced monthly subscription fee for a decent AI services that only has the basic features that will be considered essential in the future. There might be free AIs but the only thing they can produce are craps you now see on the internet, and these craps will flood the internet and become poor people's new cheap, soulless entertainment. Eventually we don't care anymore because our small brain still works and can be easily entertained as long as it's stimulated. Businesses still running, we are still alive, but i won't call it an utopia.

[@yodasaber1]

I am surprised Asmond didn't realize that the number of likes on Spotify, is controlled by Spotify

[@E.G.I.L.3D]

is there proof to support that spotify raises likes on AI songs?

[@Somerled_Pox]

@@E.G.I.L.3D There's no proof to any of the claims made, but it wouldn't be surprising if that were true, so people tend to take it as true until proven otherwise, and then if proven otherwise, you'll still have a set of people who will say "nah you're lying", which is also possibly true.

[@marcogenovesi8570]

@@E.G.I.L.3D can there be any proof if the number is created by Spotify

[@og8425]

@@E.G.I.L.3D So basically, if Spotify is advertising and pushing their own music to millions of people, it will get more traction and views, thereby raising likes. It's free advertising for their own products. And pushing one song or list instead of another means the suppression of every other choice. That's how it's controlled.

[@Airwalk118]

If AI is so good, then why isn't there an AI 2 yet?

[@PlaceOfDestination]

Valve should look into that

[@thecipher8495]

@@PlaceOfDestination Busy on deadlock and TF2 protest

[@Diogo85]

Same reason there's no Technology 2.

[@aquasomnus]

Nah bro you probably don't want AGI, that's the next step.

[@Larry_Dean]

YouTwob’d 😮

[@nBomF]

The Nike thing is wrong. The swoosh represents the wing of the Nike of samuthrake, which is a famous statue

[@davidl4312]

I'm old but my grandparents refused to buy a TV because they thought it was a fad

[@NowakP]

They were right, we're all watching "TV" shows on internet now, who needs TVs? 🤣

[@NavarroRefugee]

@@NowakP True enough lol, on long enough time scales everything is a fad.

[@banhammer3904]

Technically, they were right. Both radio and newspapers outlasted broadcast television.

[@liteknight]

@Deathheart161 thats a suprisingly wholesome comment for someone with the username Deathheart161 lol

[@VerySaneDr]

Humanity is a fad as it won't be here by the time Sun becomes a red giant and turns Earth into a popcorn.

[@catman8770]

16:52 you're missing one of the biggest factors which is that many of the people on faacebook are from poorer countries that are less developed and also more religious, religiosity is just an easy avenue to exploit in people who are naive to a lot of modern society.

[@Gankstomper]

Religious people already blindly believe in a magical sky fairy, of course they're easy to fool.

[@_uncredited]

@@Gankstomper You need a more sophisticated view of religion. 'Lol sky daddy' is what lazy people say because it's easy. Far more intelligent people than either of us are religious. Find out why. You might understand why people have faith from a logical, psychological or ontological perspective. Or you can stick with magic sky fairy. Path of least resistance, y'know.

[@Gankstomper]

@@_uncredited You know nothing about my knowledge or view of religion based on a single one sentence KZbin comment. Someone that would jump to that wild of a conclusion based on nothing probably shouldn't be talking down to others. Pretty embarrassing to say the least, apparently you throw reason out the window if someone says words you don't like.

[@seekittycat]

as someone who went to church they actively teach you to disregard logic and common sense as "human arrogance" and praise blind faith. If your blind faith works out that's god's plan and why you should trust in invisible forces with no evidence.

[@sylkiri]

@@Gankstomper Dude, honestly this guy was just trying to suggest you open your mind a little. He obv doesn't know you or your stances/knowledge on religion and was going off of what you wrote. Which was an inflammatory statement about religion. How are you getting defensive about this? It's just a joke, right?

[@presmadagascar]

I think "vocaloid is AI" is maybe one of the dumbest things asmon has ever said. that's like saying a keyboard is an AI piano

[@MonsterHat133]

fr

[@007MrYang]

True, I think his brain went literally went "Making songs with a computer = AI"

[@FakeEgirl]

No its the same shit. The voice is AI. Lyrics? Human made. Oh wait just like how you can do that right now in any ai music generator!

[@MonsterHat133]

@@FakeEgirl i dont know much about vocaloids but i think that they need to be tuned like an instrument, versus ai music where you literally just type words. its about the effort.

[@presmadagascar]

@@FakeEgirl the voice in vocaloid has literally nothing to do with AI, you're basically picking a syllable and a note to sing it at and you have sliders and dials to adjust how the synthesizer pronounces it. it's no different from synthesized guitar or drums. you do not just write lyrics into it and it farts out rolling girl

[@dontletmebrewthat]

"Why would I care about learning something so useless" Asmongold being the definition of a Philistine to a T. But that's the way it is. It's not an insult, just an observation bruh

[@inkermoy]

The thing about a lot of animated movies that give you the feels is that there's people still behind the scenes writing animating and tweaking to give it that human feel. If you're going for the most realistic animation, there will still be that uncanny valley.

[@gowankommando]

AI? Back in the day we called it "Computer Generated," lol

[@thecipher8495]

Computer generated is manual while AI can be automated like suggestions and can also be trained to specifically do something 'accurately' like art.

[@tsuki_moon.1]

You need some tech literacies

[@keenansisson211]

“Jet engine plane with auto pilot? Back in my day we called them propeller aircraft.“ “Smartphone? Back in my day we called them rotary phones.” “Microwave? Back in my day we just called it an oven” The technologies are barely even related.

[@no_player_commentary]

People are literally doing that now & its infuriating they think everything is AI now

[@wihukeon]

@@thecipher8495 the only close to AI i've seen being put out is the AI of the guy getting the avatar to learn how to walk and etc, the rest is being force fed information to just copy the rest which is basically computer generated none of those tools learnt how to do stuff itself from scratch.

[@williambarnes5023]

The distinction between AI and Vocaloid is that Vocaloid is not generative. It's an instrument. You can't just say "Sing a song about whales". You have to write the song. You have to place every note in the song yourself, as if you were playing it by hand. You have to set the pitch and tone of each syllable the Vocaloid speaks. The Vocaloid program isn't generating anything at all, unlike AI art or AI music. It's the same as an electronic keyboard. Everything that comes out of a Vocaloid was put there by the human.

[@richardps-v5w]

Ok so it's just a sophisticated voice synthesizer, anyway I hate autotune songs , so I don't really care about that

[@cygnistardust9410]

Ai has already hit a wall buddy. To advance any further they'd have to spend more money than there is

[@pulkstenis1]

This was a bit painful to watch tbh. You're pausing too much just to repeat essentially the same arguments. It also seems as if you already set your mind before watching the video to not let it budge your opinion even a tiny bit. I mostly agree with Asmon, but the dude in the video does bring some few good points.

[@littlebois1813]

Drew gooden is the guy

[@chrisn3819]

Ah yes…the “duh; people watch documentaries specifically for the misinformed but oddly satisfying and entertaining parts rather than the facts of the thing that originally piqued their interest” argument. Brilliant.

[@raojr46]

I think the most annoying thing is when ur listening to someone u respect and they diss on psychedelics and chemistry without any knowledge of it at all

[@BicheTordue]

1:12:46 no it's literaly a synth instrument where you composer the note on a pianoroll but instead of an electric signal it's a huge bank of voice sample that you mix chosing the letter/sentense, intonation pitch tone etc

[@AmazingAutist]

1:13:14 a human riding the lyrics, in composing the music, and using the machine to mix what they've made and executed is different from someone riding a prompt, and having the machine right compose and synthesize the music

[@Halvos12]

Vocaloid is just a text to speech program, I've seen how it works and you have to manually pitch every single note put out.

[@KindaIWantToish]

AI is just a text to image program, I've seen how it works and you have to manually prompt every single feature put out.

[@Halvos12]

@@KindaIWantToish It sounds similar but the process is completely different, also no, no it's not there are AI image generative programs but not all AI is an AI image generative program.

[@KT-pv3kl]

@@KindaIWantToish that is entirely incorrect. more AI algorythms exist that have absolutely no ability to produce images than ones that do.

[@Verårtu]

​@@KindaIWantToishvocaloid uses real paid talented singer. AI uses pattern+stealing others real people works

[@Verårtu]

​@@KindaIWantToishvocaloid gives 100% control for the user. AI uses only text??!?? yeah youre not an artist seriously. stop it troll.

[@Kingkillwatts]

AI is slop at the moment. Way overhyped.

[@Diogo85]

I disagree. I use AI and it can do some good stuff.

[@Karl0v]

​@@Diogo85 I'm interested, what are you using it for?

[@MatthewKelley-mq4ce]

I'm enjoying Claude quite thoroughly. Regardless of opinions.

[@mdl9224]

So whete planes when the Wright brothers first flew. There is tech hype and then there's obvious tech potential

[@Akrob55555]

Not really. I'm using AI daily as a seasoned software developer and can't imagine going back.

[@IncorporatedMonsters]

Bringing up Vader to say people only see bad AI is a poor execution of his point as there has been nothing released that contained Vader since James Earl Jones signed off on using AI to replace his voice acting

[@Lofieloves]

Why is asmon defending ai so much lmao ? Ofc we rather want human made music with actual meaning and passion rather than shittty music made in 20 minutes or less ?

[@ttt5205]

Why is it that every image tagged with AI gets significantly fewer views as the same image but pretending to be human made? Why does spotify even bother with pretending their AI music is made by real artists if people wouldn't care either way? Asmon seems to think people don't care, but reality seems to contradict him pretty much always.

[@9553shadow]

If it sounds good why do you care if it was made by a person or ai? Meaning and passion are worthless in reality. Only quality. And eventually ai will overtake humanity in quality.

[@The-Real-Term]

Asmon is like that one friend nobody likes hanging out with because he has an opinion and answer on everything, completely unaware how annoying they really are. 😂

[@The-Real-Term]

@laz0544 and you’re that guy that thumbs up his own comment. 🤡🤡

[@MonsieurDeVeteran]

@laz0544 what? Did you went to ChatGPT to tell it to make you a "witty" response to defend your daddy?

[@alextihor1190]

This video perpetually reminded of that friend i have

[@adanguzman7733]

in the dating world, i think this will lead to people actually meeting in person again... approaching a girl and asking her on a date is making a comeback soon

[@Incospicuous_Hamsterboi]

Imagine if this were to be the case, kind of poetic in a way

[@Jaaaa315]

"AI is garbage... for NOW" is the most annoying shit to listen to every single fuckin year. AI generated images and text serve no purpose other than background filler, reference material or low priority textures, etc. Every single person saying that it's getting better and soon it'll be indistinguishable from "real art" have been saying that for decades and will continue to say i until they're at their death bed and AI continues to generate mediocre results. They will never admit it and they'll continue to push theoretical "in a few years" explanations which are just as valuable as the current day results: not very. In ten years people are gonna bring up how AI "art" is still garbo and people like asmon will comment "but in 2024 it was even worse and look at it now".

[@therealsechs]

Decades is a stretch home computers only became a house hold item in the 90s.

[@Jaaaa315]

@@therealsechs True, but the discourse was the same 5 years ago and 10 years ago. People just keep saying how it'll get better tomorrow.

[@Draighean]

Gemini is dogshit, copilot is kinda cool and easy to jailbreak. In general AI is making the internet suck. Dead internet theory is sounding more legit by the day.

[@Diogo85]

It's not making the internet suck.

[@noggindude5012]

^posted by a bot. Internet dead.

[@Draighean]

@@Diogo85 have you seen the quality of the average article and blog post over the last year or so, and how almost every one uses the same language structure and turns of phrase? Or how the same information is in different places spun in a way that changes words for synonyms and alters the structure a little to avoid getting flagged as plagiarism? All that is AI and is starting to represent the majority of the content output out there.

[@Diogo85]

@@Draighean AI isn't bad, though, and it's not ruining the internet. I use AI and it's really good.

[@vayokekita8223]

I think you could argue that not telling consumers that things are made by AI is false advertising because most of those products credit a fake person as the creator as if it's made by a real person, so it's presenting to paying customer that it isn't AI before they consume it. I'm surprised at Asmon take on not telling the consumers that things are made by AI because he is usually against false advertising.

[@awoo_horsie]

1:36:10 it threatens purely human artists because we literally CANNOT COMPETE. Basically ALL projects exist through having the financial means to make it, and if it takes ai like 10 seconds and me 2 years to make an entire movie, ALL funding will OBVIOUSLY go towards the more efficient process. Art made by humans will be brought down from these awesome years long projects by thousands of different people specializing in hundreds of different fields to basically only what you and maybe a group of friends YOU'RE NOT PAYING could make in your spare time from work. It would be impossible to make it your job, and our entire culture of human made art will die.

[@awoo_horsie]

but yes, i agree that just ai art existing on its own removed from its consequences is fine and valid. Its what it would do to our literal defining trait of humanity thats my issue.

[@9553shadow]

and how is that a bad thing exactly? People will get what they want cheaply and efficiently.

[@arienmartinez5025]

22:11 NO! No! 🤣🤣🤣 Don't call me out like that, I am laughing my ass off!

[@ggadams639]

Ai needs data to work, data is now replaced by Ai, now Ai sucks. You see the issue with all that? It can't work.

[@theSato]

You missed the part where humans can curate dataset of only real & human-created content, while eschewing AI generated content from the dataset. It can and does work even now.

[@flipletape9706]

I feel like it might turn into a "enjoy it while you can" type of thing. Udio and Suni are getting sued right now. So depending where it goes, they might not even exist soon since they're clearly using copyrighted stuff to build their models. And doubt it would even work without it. Same goes for most AI models if there's legal precedent on this.

[@flipletape9706]

Allegedly lol

[@None38389]

@@theSato What's the point of AI if humans need to curate for it? Doesn't that just create an extra layer of busy work to achieve the level of quality which humans could already achieve in the first place? Why not just hire an artist if you have to hire someone to curate AI work anyway?

[@aquasomnus]

​​@@None38389You have your terms....wrong. AI will never achieve what you think, it's AGI or ASI, the point of the narrowed AI is to be a tool, the next level is when the AI doesn't need instructions and can update itself and we're far from that but it's still important to keep the development because the endgame is precisely to achieve the general AI that can support itself.

[@RoxieParadox]

You can tell, the cockroach part around 3:10 really hit home for ole Asmon 🤣🤣🤣💀

[@N7GOTTI]

i think the thing that scares me the most is deep fakes are going to be so good that you wont be able to tell and alot of innocent people are going to get hurt by it

[@firesnakearies]

How about the fact that deepfakes will get so good that soon, no actual video evidence will be persuasive anymore, as a person can always just say "oh that's a deepfake" and there will be reasonable doubt.

[@banhammer3904]

Yes, but not for the same reasons most people think. The Name Image Likeness stuff is going to kick in with college student athletes first. They sign away their life in perpetuity when they contract with a school. It will roll out on everyone else when digital ID gets implemented. Then, everyone is at the mercy of AI.

[@Verårtu]

Creeps gonna use it to profits... one way or the other.

[@brian2778]

We won’t be able to really on video for anything…. So back to normal, before video. Sounds good to me.

[@GamewizDeluxe]

42:40 it won't be dead, it'll be changed. People will be needed to train AI to create professional stock footage and sell it that way... Until AI can do that to... But that's a while away

[@Xsorus]

Asmongold on here mocking people for falling for AI when he's fallen for the dumbest propaganda multiple times without fail lol

[@harry1dk686]

Example of the propaganda? Are they ai generated? Provide some, bro

[@Akrob55555]

​@@harry1dk686 The fact that you need to ask this questions means you're part of the problem.

[@TheRoyalBum]

​@@Akrob55555 how?

[@JimmyDoyel-by2cp]

so you have nothing? got it.

[@Xsorus]

@@JimmyDoyel-by2cp Oh i posted an example, but amazingly it seems it got "removed" for some reason .....

[@TyrianHaze]

Everyone with basic knowledge about how AI works when the AI craze was starting: "AI is trash, and just steals everyone else's work." People's response: "shut up boomer, AI is the future."

[@andyb3522]

I love how people just flat out ignore how the human brain works when making this argument. You only know anything that you currently know about music, because you have listened to thousands of songs throughout your life. You absorbing those styles, contexts and distinctions, and then producing your own music using the things you've learned from your experience listening to every song you've ever listened to, is functionally no different than an AI being "trained" on libraries of songs. The only real difference is that an AI can do it faster. To be clear, I'm not saying BETTER, but certainly faster. You are not expected to pay royalties to the creator of every song you've ever listened to, whenever you create a song, but you are 100% using the things you've learned from their work to produce your own. Yes AI is in its infancy, so its still very flawed, but I do not see any ethical reasons that an AI produced piece of art in any medium, should be regulated any differently than a human, except that I don't think an AI generated content should be eligible for any copyright, but copyright law is already a screwed up sack of bullcrap at this point so thats a debate for another time xD

[@TyrianHaze]

@@andyb3522 Guess you missed the part about "anybody with basic knowledge of how AI works." I get it, AI is "trained" on data, but at the end of the day it's just stealing other people's work to create unoriginal derivatives. Yes, it will be a useful tool to generate media without paying people to create media, but there's no real originality to it, regardless of people comparing training AI with human learning. I'll take media created by people that have learned their craft over the years while being influenced by life's experiences over anything generated by a lifeless robot any day of the week. That's my personal choice, and I am going to stick to it.

[@andyb3522]

@@TyrianHaze A generative "AI" steals the work that its trained on about as much as any human who creates music who has listened to music before. Its not stealing to LEARN from something. Your brain functionally does the same thing. Your personal choice is valid and I advocate for your power to continue to make that choice. But AI is no more a thief than anybody who writes music after having spent their whole life listening to and being influenced by the music from other artists. Call them lifeless Robots all you want. But I think your opinion of the sanctity of human created art is based on the fact that you havent heard all the AWFUL music people have made that you would probably consider "lifeless" and "soulless" as well. And there far more AWFUL music and artwork than there is GOOD music and artwork. And to be fair to you here, I agree that AI is unlikely to reach the quality that the worlds great artists can produce. But they can easily replace the soulless wannabe's who might know how to draw or play an instrument, but lack creativity, and yet still charge a lot of money for a commission due to their "skill". Its basically just replacing the "execution" part of the task. But it wont replace the creativity, you are correct. Hence why theyre just likely to be tools.

[@TyrianHaze]

@@andyb3522 You keep trying to explain to me how AI works when I already told you twice that I understand how it works. When I say I understand how it works, I mean that I have actually worked with machine learning algorithms and coded the programs myself, not just typed some BS into a text box. Whatever the case, you are not going to convince me. I've heard all of that BS plenty of times before, and I am simply not buying those BS arguments that were thought up by the very people using AI to steal people's work.

[@andyb3522]

@@TyrianHaze I didnt make any assumptions about your knowledge about AI, I criticized your wording that its somehow being used to "steal" other peoples work. Then I compared the functionality to the way YOUR BRAIN uses past experiences to create new ideas. Call it BS all you want. Its no more BS than your alleged background having "coded the programs" yourself. Dont think youll convince me with a half assed combination of buzz words like "machine learning algorithm". I am all too familiar with neural networks, tokenization, input vectors, bias vectors, input and output weight matrices and Im also very familiar with people trying to pretend they know all about AI. Nice try though.

[@owlic227]

ain't no way you edited drew out and put yourself. cmon dude.

[@Benisnaisu]

He doesn't edit his own videos

[@Alice_Haukea]

What is killing me is that I agree with SOME of Asmond's takes, but disagree with others. All around, that is fair either way. I know he doesn't care what I think obviously. Why should he? For all he knows, I'm just a bot. AI art is one of those interesting topics. Artists are the ones most bothered by this obviously. And I get it, if you went to school to study art, only to now have an AI program do your job but for free, you're likely gonna feel angry. I get that. And to that point, I agree with the artists. But at the same time, i'm not an artist myself and so all I want is the end result. To that point, I don't have to care about what the process is or isn't. But in all fairness, perhaps I SHOULD care. I think it's a little close minded of Asmond to be THAT dismissive of learning a skill or taking an interest. It's not like being a KZbinr carries any value. Cool he can laugh his way to the bank, but we all just stopped caring, he has no fans anymore. My point is that everything is relative. Ultimately, I fear that AI will simply further the downward trend of dumbing down people. Basic skills are being forgotten because we rely on technology. Sure right now that doesn't matter, but what happens if the grid goes down? It's too late to learn then.

[@naxshawaryx4000]

And how many things do u refuse to learn or take interest in? Goes both ways on that. Some topics are just not worth wasting ur time on unless u seek to use that information for something u find valuable. Knowing the intricacies of how vocaloid is made is really not useful information to anyone unless u wanna be doing it urself. And people dumb themselves down in many ways, not just ai. We've been saying it about comics, games, TV, KZbin. Ai is just another additive to the list of "this thing is gonna turn people stupid." Don't worry. Pretty sure social media beat ai to the big punch 😆

[@untemi0]

I mostly agree with his points, only one thing THE VOCALOID PART I don't know about the recent ones, but voicebanks are just recordings of a voice actor you use the software to synthesize it, that's it nothing is generated

[@Ramsey276one]

Not autogenerated YET, I guess?

[@untemi0]

@@Ramsey276one it is now

[@Ramsey276one]

@@untemi0 REALLY???

[@FractalParadox]

Also, AI in the hands of a talented/experienced artist can and will give out better results, And it can be used in many many ways as a tool without being used to create the entire picture. you could generate background assets for cheap, interpolate videos you recorded yourself, use it to create textures for 3D animations you are making by hand. it is definitely something that can speed up many many aspects or sometimes entire pipelines. even if you don't like the "entire artwork generated by AI" thing and think it is lazy or soulless, what about the hand-animated 3D short film that used AI for making the rocks on the ground? is this also lazy? what about concept art? storyboards? someone who makes the visual part of the video by themselves, then use AI to make the music? I think those are all valid. I would LOVE to do everything myself, but there simply isn't enough time in 10 lifetimes for me to learn everything I need to make a movie by myself.

[@Jeremiah-x7q]

Your thumbnail is a direct copy of his💀

[@joskun]

1:16:51 is exactly what happened when you watch this video 3 months later and literally everything about AI got WAYYYYY better 😂 What's a mindshift for me is when Asmondgold said there literally is no difference if the result is the same. That is so powerful from a business standpoint. Am still trying to monetize Ai and it's so hard because I don't know how. I get the market research and trend part yet I need an AI mentor to get to the next level. I find it hard to do it alone because of my ADHD so am still trying other ways 🙁

[@joskun]

Just started to watch you Zach and I absolutely love your content. Going to start streaming because I don't know what to do because most things I do fail yet I want to change that and be more disciplined and stream regularly but I don't know how to grow a stream. From watching you I see that Wow is popular so I should also choose a game that I like and that is popular too I think